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[QUOTE=Cyberspace]
First, I can't see that taking pictures (even nude pictures) necessarily shows a disrespect for Thai women. It's certainly no more disrespectful than to barfine a woman for ST, LT, BBBJ, DFK or whatever, and I don't say this facetiously. WGs are engaged knowingly and willingly in a business usually to support their families.
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I thought that in Thailand pornography was more taboo than prostitution. So it might be a lot more degrading to be seen in a pornography video than just being seen in public with a foreigner. I can see how a lady going out with a guy can be seen as more as a escort/companionship, and lady-like, and what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors, always, just like any other relationships, except for porn stars, it is no different from marriage or regular going steady.
I've found about 9/10 Bangkok ladies agree to be photographed with clothes, and the camera goes off when the clothes come off. This is inline with my general expectations about privacy. There are cameras and videos going off constantly around the various entertainment districts so no lady who couldn't afford to be spotted in public with a foreigner would be there in the first place, BUT that doesn't mean actual sex act is public since it's in fact behind closed doors.
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culture and reality
Hi
Thailand is not a good place to assimilate. Many jobs are forbiddon for foreigners. The elite have a tight grip on power thru the exclusive patronage system that also keeps most of the population exempt from any chance of being successfull. Even with that being said foreigners are looked down on by most of the population via xenophobia, brainwashing, lack of education and superstition that basically equates to foreigners being looked at as a dollar sign. I have seen many an xpat friend entangled in a relationship i.e marriage and business that only led to frustration and economical losses. Example if your gonna buy property or business in the name of your Thai partner consider it a gift with limited return or recoupment of your investment. I have done the math and discovered it best to continue to be single and string on your concubines thru nightly payment. Your first mistake is to take rights of ownership of local girl in a LTR. Have fun, be honest, pay them and set them free, they will be back again and again. Albiet there are exceptions those are few and far between or pressure cookers waiting to pop. If your already rich you will do just fine. Learning thai language on your own will assist you more than getting a english speaking Thai girl to be your guide.
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[QUOTE=Global Surfer]Unlike Dubai where most bars do not charge wgs and instead offer them a couple of free drinks, CM2 charge them the same amount as other guests. Usually BHT 650 and on Halloween nights BHT 899. This means that they have to spend 15% - 20% of their income in just entering the bar. Ratio in the bar is also not favourable for them.
This should have a few implications.
1 - Only stunners would attempt to come to the bar and even some of them have to go back empty handed.
2 - This should push the price up as they have to price in for unsuccessful attempts.
3 - They will be under pressure to get someone and cannot afford bad attitude.
However, in reality the quality was high but not that high and some of them have attitude problem. Also some A+ goes empty handed. According to the Russian they usually move to Spicy or Shock after 2am. However, she does not seem to worry too much about the high price in CM2.
I hope that some senior member may be able to shed some light on this issue.[/QUOTE]
I would be more cautious about "stunners" in CM2 (I don't talk about Russians, it's a special "exotic" business so it's normal to be overpriced). A real stunner is still a stunner when she's nude and the light if on. Few CM2 girls pass this test, in my opinion. They have nice dress, nice make-up, but most of them are not worth the price. At least in Gogos you can check the body quality before...
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[QUOTE=Globotto]Hi
Thailand is not a good place to assimilate. Many jobs are forbiddon for foreigners. The elite have a tight grip on power thru the exclusive patronage system that also keeps most of the population exempt from any chance of being successfull. Even with that being said foreigners are looked down on by most of the population via xenophobia, brainwashing, lack of education and superstition that basically equates to foreigners being looked at as a dollar sign. I have seen many an xpat friend entangled in a relationship i.e marriage and business that only led to frustration and economical losses. Example if your gonna buy property or business in the name of your Thai partner consider it a gift with limited return or recoupment of your investment. I have done the math and discovered it best to continue to be single and string on your concubines thru nightly payment. Your first mistake is to take rights of ownership of local girl in a LTR. Have fun, be honest, pay them and set them free, they will be back again and again. Albiet there are exceptions those are few and far between or pressure cookers waiting to pop. If your already rich you will do just fine. Learning thai language on your own will assist you more than getting a english speaking Thai girl to be your guide.[/QUOTE]
Excellent post. I agree with all of it. This should be dubbed "Survival Guide To LOS"
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[QUOTE=Cometoak]for me CM2 is "Da Place".
1. it gets crowded earlier (11.30PM)than many clubs - so u can pick up girls still fresh and have more fun time with them.
2. Good Music (do we really care about it when we are hunting..?
3. better quality gilrs than many clubs as well Grace junction
So c u at CM2 on 26/12.
Cheers,
Ak[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I have already left Thailand and probably will not be back for another year or two. My usual place is Dubai
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[QUOTE=Bkk Rookie]She was working at the yellow umbrella sidewalk bar, right? The first one is ladyboys, the second has ladies.
Go to the second, ask for Bell.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information but I have already left BKK
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[QUOTE=El Frances]I would be more cautious about "stunners" in CM2 (I don't talk about Russians, it's a special "exotic" business so it's normal to be overpriced). A real stunner is still a stunner when she's nude and the light if on. Few CM2 girls pass this test, in my opinion. They have nice dress, nice make-up, but most of them are not worth the price. At least in Gogos you can check the body quality before...[/QUOTE]
I agree with you. I used the word stunmner for two I saw in first day. There was such a que behind them that I was unable to speak to them. The first one I took, I will rate at 5/10 but attituce 9/10. The second one 7-8/10 but very good in bed. I know it is professionalisim.
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Arab girls in BKK
I think it is soi 4 (I mean the soi opposite the soi Nana – Sukumvit). If you walk from Sukhumvit, Grace Hotel is about 5-10 minutes’ walk. There are many Arab and/or Indian hotels. Most of them displaying religious things on their big LCD screens.
Usually after 11 pm you may find fully covered girls (veil) sitting alone or as pairs with a bottle of Heineken and smoking shisha. These girls speak Arabic. I cannot speak Arabic so I cannot confirm whether they are native speakers or not. I was told that they are mostly Lebanese and Syrians but some also from UAE. Prices for me were 4k – 5k for short time. They are hot commodity there as Arab loves Arabic speaking, covered girls from their homeland and my hard earned cash is no match for oil rich Arabs. Some of them look very young. You may also find them and Uzbeks in Grace Hotel but the place is bit expensive. So if you are after Arabs give it a try
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[QUOTE=Flmonger]I know how annoying it is when noobs come in looking for info, so I purchased a subscription just to show support for this forum.[/QUOTE]
That's nice, but Jackson gets the money, not us. If you contribute a few good stories, that would be most appreciated.
Most things you ask have been discussed quite exhaustively. Use google maps to get distances down to the meter.
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[QUOTE=Flmonger]One last question. If I take a tuk tuk or taxi to soi cowboy, do I just say "soi cowboy"?[/QUOTE]
Yeah .. some more often-repeated advice .. tuk tuks are expensive unless you already know the way, and what you'd pay per taxi, and the parked taxis in front of tourist spots will try to rip you off: get a cruising taxi.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Yeah .. some more often-repeated advice .. tuk tuks are expensive unless you already know the way, and what you'd pay per taxi, and the parked taxis in front of tourist spots will try to rip you off: get a cruising taxi.[/QUOTE]
As a foreigner going to soi cowboy they clearly know where you go...and what for and that you are ready to spend money
I always try to avoid that, mentioning Sukhumvit at th ecorner of soi...or something liek this
in a casual way like you are not interested to go INSIDE the scene
had a taxi drvier insisting on Nana car prk? nana plaza... I said Just take me to Sukhumvit soi 4 or soi 2 , period, I have to go to JW Marriott...but the walk as easier.
Quote the soi number and ask to be left at the corner just like you have an appointment there
less tendency to rip off
anyhow with taxi meter on..less rip off
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]That's nice, but Jackson gets the money, not us. If you contribute a few good stories, that would be most appreciated.
Most things you ask have been discussed quite exhaustively. Use google maps to get distances down to the meter.[/QUOTE]Rocksoff,
I must have missed the part that talked about aspen suites and its proximity to nana. Also, I've tried google maps and it wasn't of much help.
Repeated thanks to those that actually helped me out.
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[QUOTE=Global Surfer]I think it is soi 4 (I mean the soi opposite the soi Nana – Sukumvit). If you walk from Sukhumvit, Grace Hotel is about 5-10 minutes' walk.
Usually after 11 pm you may find fully covered girls (veil) sitting alone or as[/QUOTE]Most of the russians you find in and around for me a big turn off,. Fat, bad attitude and that place can really make you run away from ruskies. Also the street business there causes quite a bit of traffic jam in the late nights. Yuck scene.!
CM2, Spark39, Bossy/Spicey are my hunting place for ruskies. This time around want to try bed supper club!
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Arab girl
[QUOTE=Global Surfer]I think it is soi 4 (I mean the soi opposite the soi Nana – Sukumvit). If you walk from Sukhumvit, Grace Hotel is about 5-10 minutes' walk. There are many Arab and/or Indian hotels. Most of them displaying religious things on their big LCD screens.[/QUOTE]So a syrain women I am ashamed to admit that I would paid the 5000 for a short time. That would help be get one of my hardest country in my pussy of the world quest. Are you sure that they are there because last month went I was in town there was nope to be found, and the nana parking lot was dead also.
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[QUOTE=Flmonger]Also, I've tried google maps and it wasn't of much help.[/QUOTE]
Try just a bit harder. Here is a Google map link from the very end of soi 2 to Nana Hotel: bit.ly/dkVXsg . It includes turn by turn walking directions (right, and then right again).
I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but this is not obscure hard to find stuff.