Taipei

[QUOTE=Filler17;2810655]Back with another FR, this time for Tianlong. Only second time mongering and wanted to try different price points, see what I liked and value of each type.

Was originally deciding between Tianlong and Caesarworld but one of the previous FR for Tianlong convinced me.

Got to the Tianlong entrance and it almost looked like an old movie theatre with the LED signs. Saw some people outside and unsure of what exactly to do but just walked up to the elevator and hit the 9th floor (there are signs). Put my stuff in the assigned locker, stripped naked and decided to enjoy the sauna first before hand. After soaking for about 10 minutes, went back to get my phone and wallet (thought I had to pay the girl that gave the massage, but you pay as your about to leave and return the locker key instead), changed into the robes. Entered the lounge and was immediately greeted by an older woman promoting their regular massages. I said I wasn't interested but wanted a special massage instead. She then waved down the mamasan, who ask me which number I wanted. Told her it was my first time and wanted to just choose myself. She then told me it was 4200 for an hour and lead me to the VIP area and into a small massage room. After waiting a couple of minutes, there was a knock at the door and I saw the girl. My god, she was beautiful. Chinese, long brunette hair, see cups, wearing a pink shear outfit and was probably the most beautiful massage girl I've had yet (Granted I've only been to 5 and this was my 2nd time). I was hard before she even closed the door behind her. Helped me take my clothes off and started the back massage. At first, she seemed confused as she thought I had specifically requested her, and thought I was a customer for one of her friends that had returned to China, but I told her she was just the first girl that came to the door and I immediately agreed to her.

Back massage was pretty standard, but after 10 minutes she started the really sensual light touches and proceeded to give me a cat bath. Then told me to get into doggy and proceeded to give a rusty trombone. Then came the flip and she started with HJ then into BBBJ. After a few minutes of this, she then slipped a cover on and rode me CG. Unfortunately, this was when I got too excited and finished too early. Really wanted to enjoy her for longer. I asked her how much was it for a second shot, but she said it would require booking her for another full hour, so another 4.2 k, which I was not that interested in. Remainder of the time she gave me a massage on the front while I continued to touch her until the time was up and I was lead back to the main lounge.

Overall a great experience, but I'm a pretty quick shot that can go multiple rounds in a row, so not that worth it for me, as beautiful as she was. Will most likely revisit her every now and then but I find more value in the massage parlors you find online and contact through a GTO. (Will be leaving a FR of that next). Hope this review helped someone new to Taipei and looking for their experience![/QUOTE]It doesn't seem quite fair to book a girl for an hour for a premium price and experience, and then they limit you on how your biology functions. If a guy takes his time to release, he can go until the buzzer, and somebody who stimulates easily is not allowed to continue his passions. They should at least allow a second or third happy ending.

But, this might not be a rule of the house. It might be a self-imposed rule by the particular girl.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2811046]It doesn't seem quite fair to book a girl for an hour for a premium price and experience, and then they limit you on how your biology functions. If a guy takes his time to release, he can go until the buzzer, and somebody who stimulates easily is not allowed to continue his passions. They should at least allow a second or third happy ending.[/QUOTE]I agree which is why I believe that he massages places that you find online through a handler is much better value for me.

First, I must preface that I am Taiwanese with advanced conversational skills (not quite a local but also not a foreigner) so YMMV as I'm unsure if they service foreigners or at least non-mandarin speakers. Also, I will try to be as detailed as possible about the process for those that are curious and what to experience it on their own, but won't be discussing the girl I chose as I don't think its important. Finding a girl that provides excellent service is the fun part IMO. Also, if you can read Chinese, there is a google sheets doc floating around online that provides reviews for a lot of the girls.

While researching he massage parlors online, I found many in Taipei that that are a bit more obvious about their services, such as Fish Spa which was mentioned before in this thread. Eventually realized that each website is promoting mostly the same few saunas / massage parlors and is just a different handler for each site. I ended up picking the top hit if you just search the Chinese term for he massage in google, and added the LINE account on the site.

The website has a list of all the parlors that you can choose from, with their approximate locations and closest MRT stations. Each location will also show the girls working that week and their schedule, so if you want a specific girl, make sure that you know when she is available. Side note: These locations do not have an actual storefront like Vietnamese or Thai he massages you can find here in Taipei. It's usually just a inconspicuous building. You can also make an appointment with a girl in advance, but if you do so, you will not be able to change girls if you show up and she is not to your liking. I'd suggest going and picking in person the first time so you can see all the girls. Prices are $2600-3100 depending on the girl, for 1 hour with just a basic back massage into a handjob. Depending on the girl, they will also provide, usually CBJ for +1 k, and CFS for +3 k. You are also allowed as many shots as you can in that 1 hour.

Automatically, upon adding them on LINE, they will send a message asking if you are looking for a massage or. Replied with massage and they asked which one I wanted to go to. I asked for a recommendation for one that had the most selection of girls to choose from and he sent me the address. Upon arriving at the location, you should report the handlers name to the mamasan / papasan at the front desk. On your first time, you will be asked to provide some sort of work identification, just to prove that your not a cop I believe. I just showed them my jobs Teams chat and they were okay with that, but they said just showing them your business card too is alright. You are then asked to lock your phone in a safety box and given a key, and then escorted to a separate area to pick a girl. I went to this place on a Saturday afternoon and there were approximately 20+ girls to choose from at the time, not counting the ones already servicing other customers. All on the younger side compared to traditional Asian Massage Parlors with a storefront, probably 25-35. Upon picking a girl, you are asked to pay that girls fee at the reception first and then taken into a massage room and asked to shower. By the time you get out of the shower, the girl should be in the room with you, will tell you to lie on your front (completely naked, no paper undies) and will begin the massage.

After around 10 minutes, she will then flip you and start teasing your lower buddy, whether it be soft strokes or even using her mouth to lick your balls, its up to the girl. At this point, you can ask what other services she provides and their price. The girl I chose provided CBJ for +1 k and after my first round, I wanted FS, but she seemed hesitant and said she needed time to prepare, so I said it was alright and got another HJ instead. During the entire time you are allowed to touch them as you please, but FIV and FIA is up to the girl. I've had one that allowed FIV for free, while another only let me touch the outer area. When you are done, you take a quick shower again and leave the room with the girl before being escorted back into the main reception area.

Damage done: 3.8 k (2.8 k to the parlor + 1 k to girl for CBJ).

Sorry if this FR is kind of long, but I wanted to provide as much information as possible from a somewhat local POV. Hopefully this report was insightful to someone and can help them decide if this is the route that they want go through. I personally find this to be the most value and have some girls that I want to revisit / experience through recommendations found online, and the girls are on the younger / prettier side.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2810900]Wow we have another rockstar reviewer! Thanks so much for sharing. Did you happen to get your girl's number so she can be requested? Did anyone wear masks inside ie, would it be weird for me to keep a mask on until inside the massage room?

Also Re: your first review, is the site you're referring to called euro girls escort?[/QUOTE]Thanks! I figured since I've been lurking on this thread for a while, trying to gather as much information, it was about time for me to go out and experience it myself and provide others more info.

Answers to your questions:

1. It seems all the girls in these service locations will provide their #/ nickname after the service is over. Mine was #89 but I was unsure if she worked the early or late shift as I got there around 8 pm ish.

2. I don't think it would be that weird to have a mask on as the staff workers there (regular masseuses, waiters, mamasan, etc.) are all wearing masks in the lounge but none of the customers were because they just got out of the sauna and left the mask in their locker.

3. Yes, its euro girls escort. From what I could gather, most of the verified ones on there have a good hit rate.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2810899]Wow tremendous advice and detail once again. I think it may make the most sense for me to just make the rounds like a tourist (I've yet to even visit the temple or that area) and just get the lay of the land, with zero expectations. Your advice to calmly chat, interact, and take my time makes a lot of sense and not feeling the pressure to do anything the first time might help settle my nerves in a new environment.

Two more questions: do the ladies wear masks when you see them on the street? Face is an important factor to me. Contrarily, would it be normal for me to wear a mask? Prior to getting into the room I would like to remain as anonymous as possible.[/QUOTE]The restrictions of mandatory mask-use in Taiwan are receding in most public places. Public buses no longer require masks, but out of habit, fear and security, most citizen still wear them.

On the streets, most girls don't wear them, so their smiles and pretty faces are not obliterated. But, sure, you can always wear your mask like most people do. It might help to hide your identity and make you feel more anonymous. Certainly a good idea. Most of the time I wear masks to give others comfort, although not required.

In the rooms now since the fear has subsided and mask restrictions lifted, most girls have abandoned them. But, you will never be thought odd wearing your mask, anywhere, since mask-wearing is ubiquitous, and a very common preference.

I reached out to a bunch of independent providers from the Euro Girls Escort site. Of the ones that responded to me, only two seem to be providers, the rest were clearly agencies (and weren't pretending not to be).

Anyway, the two providers who responded to me seem polite and professional and I like what they shared. However, my concern is that their pricing is the same and when asked about incall, they both sent me the same identical image of a particular hotel. Ummm. What's going on here? Is this also an agency? Also, what's the worst that could happen? (I'm asking earnestly, not in rhetorical or figurative fashion) Is it just bait and switch or could it turn out worse?

[QUOTE=Filler17;2811087]Thanks! I figured since I've been lurking on this thread for a while, trying to gather as much information, it was about time for me to go out and experience it myself and provide others more info.
[/QUOTE]Your info is invaluable and much appreciated. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2811397]I reached out to a bunch of independent providers from the Euro Girls Escort site. Of the ones that responded to me, only two seem to be providers, the rest were clearly agencies (and weren't pretending not to be).

Anyway, the two providers who responded to me seem polite and professional and I like what they shared. However, my concern is that their pricing is the same and when asked about incall, they both sent me the same identical image of a particular hotel. Ummm. What's going on here? Is this also an agency? Also, what's the worst that could happen? (I'm asking earnestly, not in rhetorical or figurative fashion) Is it just bait and switch or could it turn out worse?[/QUOTE]Don't have any real answers for you but from my experience with Helen on Euro, she originally sent me a hotel as our meetup location as well. When I was almost there, she told me to head a nearby mall apartment location instead, and would pick me up there. I think sometimes they might just give you a point of interest as the initial location as its easiest to rendezvous there, and give you more detailed location instructions when you arrive.

As for the worst that could happen, I would just go with your gut instincts. If you feel its off of sketchy, just leave.

I visited Taiwan in mid March and noticed that many people wore masks and it was still mandatory on the train system as I traveled around the country via trains. There were also many more people wearing masks than in a Thailand where my trip originated. However, in the US, Dr. Fauci is being criticized heavily for recommending masks during the height of the pandemic.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2811277]The restrictions of mandatory mask-use in Taiwan are receding in most public places. Public buses no longer require masks, but out of habit, fear and security, most citizen still wear them.

On the streets, most girls don't wear them, so their smiles and pretty faces are not obliterated. But, sure, you can always wear your mask like most people do. It might help to hide your identity and make you feel more anonymous. Certainly a good idea. Most of the time I wear masks to give others comfort, although not required.

In the rooms now since the fear has subsided and mask restrictions lifted, most girls have abandoned them. But, you will never be thought odd wearing your mask, anywhere, since mask-wearing is ubiquitous, and a very common preference.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Filler17;2811590]Don't have any real answers for you but from my experience with Helen on Euro, she originally sent me a hotel as our meetup location as well. When I was almost there, she told me to head a nearby mall apartment location instead, and would pick me up there. I think sometimes they might just give you a point of interest as the initial location as its easiest to rendezvous there, and give you more detailed location instructions when you arrive.

As for the worst that could happen, I would just go with your gut instincts. If you feel its off of sketchy, just leave.[/QUOTE]It's not so much that the location was the same hotel, more that the image shared was the identically cropped screenshot from google search or whatever. Anyway, I will proceed on that one with caution. I've since begun conversations with many other providers staying at various locations around the city so it's a bit more believable. Many of them are in town for just a few days (so they say) but in general the conversations seem credible and perhaps even a little desperate.

When I ask what is the worst that could happen I'm trying to avoid the complacency on my end of assuming that Taiwan is so much safer than everywhere else (namely America). I do figure that from a LE standpoint, it seems less of a concern here than in the US. Less enforcement and less repercussions if caught. From a robbery standpoint, it seems far less likely that a Taiwanese scam / trap would result in physical harm, and the amount of money to be robbed is less as well. So in my mind, worst that could happen is a slap on the wrist from police OR give away all the cash in my pockets which won't be TOO much. Am I naive and mistaken? Missing something?

Thanks again.

I think I will ask to meet at a public location and then walk back together.

[QUOTE=Filler17;2811590]Don't have any real answers for you but from my experience with Helen on Euro, she originally sent me a hotel as our meetup location as well. When I was almost there, she told me to head a nearby mall apartment location instead, and would pick me up there. I think sometimes they might just give you a point of interest as the initial location as its easiest to rendezvous there, and give you more detailed location instructions when you arrive.

As for the worst that could happen, I would just go with your gut instincts. If you feel its off of sketchy, just leave.[/QUOTE]In other countries, it was the custom to send you to a specific location nearby and tell you to call, and tell them your clothing color or body type. They could then view your appearance from a nearby windowed area to see if you meet their standards. At that point, they would either tell you the building and apartment number, or cancel the appointment.

Just a short FR from my experience on JKF.

This is probably not the way to go if your language skills are not up to par. Not only do you need to be somewhat able to read chinese itself when navigating, but contacting the girl / GTO is all in Mandarin as well.

Went on the JKF site and navigated to the 5 Flower 8 Door massage section and chose the area I wanted. Most of the girls seem to be in the 5 Woods / Zhongshan and Wanhua / Ximending areas. Was also able to find a list of reviews of different girls in the Zhongshan area. A lot of the reviewers also have photos of the girl, with the face barely blurred out. From what I could tell, most of the girls there are non-Taiwanese, usually Thai or Viet, and are usually cheaper, with pricing being around 1. 8-2. 5 k /60/1's. I also looked at the girls with a decent amount of replies / reviews on their posting. Didn't trust that the 0 reply ones weren't scams.

After finding a girl I liked, I sent a text to the phone number provided (no LINE listed). No reply after a few hours, so I just ended up calling. Discovered that the woman answering the phone (not the girl I was requesting), was either the GTO or answering on behalf and couldn't read / write chinese. Asked me what time I wanted and gave me the address over the phone.

Showed up at the location and called the number when I arrived. Told me to wait a bit and after around 10 minutes, told me to ring apartment number 5. Got buzzed in and met the girl. Pretty similar service, as other girls but my girl was a little tired / unenthusiastic as it seems she has a lot of customers that day. Did give me a CIM and second shot for free though, and wasn't rushing me out the door even though she had another customer after me. Damage 2. 1 k.

Haven't met with any yet but also looked into some of the independent girls on JKF, which mostly seem to be Taiwanese. All provide their LINE in the posting and will tell you pricing and services provided. Seems standard is 3000 k for 1's. None of the ones I asked told me how long the service was though, so I'm assuming 1 HR is standard. One of them even provided a selfie with full un-blurred face. Will probably try one of these independent JKF girls next.

Hope this helped.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2802131]For 33,000 NTD you can have 13 girls, an hour each, from the various Line agents. Normally the rate is around 2,000-2,500 NTD for an hour.[/QUOTE]I am been looking for quick paid dates though internet and I found a few telegram groups who give girls from 5 k to 30 k per hour. Found 3 contacts with multiple telegram channels that list girls and rates and all. Worth trying?

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2811647]...more that the image shared was the identically cropped screenshot from google search or whatever. ....[/QUOTE]That is not really a problem. It could be 2 or 3 girls sharing the same room. Three is really not many reason to worry about safety in Taipei. I just use my local number to contact them because many only takes calls, no text messaging. Don't bring anything that is not needed, or too much money. Keep an eye on your belongings when in the room.

I recently went on a contacting spree, messaging about 30-40 girls from the 3 or 4 popular English ad sites in Taipei eurogirlsescort, massagerepublic, etc. I pretty much contacted anyone who was particularly intriguing to me and who offered either a LINE or telegram contact. So this is basically what any foreigner could do even if they don't have a Taiwanese number or Mandarin ability. Of the 35 girls contacted, about half responded at all. A few stopped responding for whatever reason, a few were not / no longer in Taipei, and several were agencies which I was hoping to steer clear of for the time being. Was seeking just the independent girls.

Kim. I think she came from the MR site. Korean girl based in Korea I believe. She looked pretty decent, very good communication but also told me she was leaving the next day. And our communication began at midnight. Her price dropped from 4 k to 3.5 and she seemed to offer up basically whatever I wanted if I would just come now. And I very nearly did (perhaps thinking with the wrong head). I prepared to go meet her, which would have been super spontaneous for my personality, but I had to take care of something which took 30 minutes. In the intervening time frame, she had sent me more photos including what seems to be a real time photo which I had asked her for, to prove she was who she said she was. But since I was gone for 30 minutes, and no doubt she was trying to drum up business, when I returned to my phone and was about to head out she was no longer responding to me. I went to bed, but woke up the next day with messages from her at like 3 am asking if I was coming. Even the next morning she asked me to come several times before her flight. Oh well. Because of the verification photo I asked for, I kinda believe that she was real and independent, and would have been very much worth the 3500, but that's ok. Even though I didn't see her, I wanted to include her in this post because it frames the low end of the pricing for the girls I found via these channels. I do sorta wish I saw her cause based on what was to come and all other communications I had, I think she would've presented the best value. If she returns I will try to see her.

Hera / Bena. She goes by Bena in her eurogirls ad but Hera on LINE. Visiting from Japan, her first time in Taiwan. She said her total visit was 3 weeks but I believe she's leaving town right around the time of this writing. Very skinny girl, probably mid-to-late 20's. I feel bad for her cause it seemed she had some recent injuries perhaps from abuse. She seemed independent though and I was definitely communicating directly with her on LINE (as we were messaging literally up until the moment we met). Asking price was 6 k, I asked for 2 x shots, and we both agreed. I'd give her a 7 in looks. The photos were quite accurate and her face was pretty. But this was one of my worst experiences overall. My total time from entering to leaving the room was about 40 minutes. I only did one shot because I'm just not very quick and after the one I knew I wouldn't be able to do another. So that's fine, however she pretty much wanted me gone as soon as I was finished. I suppose this is something I should become more accustomed to as these girls are probably far busier than the kind of girls I used to meet in the US, but still it was an eye-opening first experience of this sort. I now know what guys mean when they say "mechanical" or "rushed" and so forth. If she comes back to Taiwan I will not be seeing her.

Nesty. I believe I found her on eurogirls but I can't recall what the ad said. She was Nesty on telegram and [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. Filipina but lives in the UAE. Comes to Taiwan quite regularly. Asking 10 k and I was desperate (don't want to get too long-winded but let's just say I was anticipating this evening for quite awhile with 3 or 4 options available and then due to unfortunate circumstances at the last minute I needed to find someone entirely from scratch) so she was the strongest candidate in my moment of desperation. I'd give her a 7.5. Guessing she's mid-20's. The photos were pretty accurate but probably a little too flattering. She also had a very lumpy feeling boob on one side (it didn't look weird) and I tried to avoid touching it for both of our sakes. That said, she was a super cool / chill person and I enjoyed my time with her very much. As we were chatting afterward, she showed me photos of her friend that she said she would like to bring with her next time she comes to Taiwan. The photos were gorgeous. If they can be trusted LOL. We also exchanged contacts. It turns out the telegram person I spoke to was her "boss" and not her! This took me by surprise. Anyway, I liked her and would see her again if the price comes down in a direct transaction. Also, would be very intrigued about a duo with her friend.

Nadia & Anya (sisters) - anyone had experiences with them? I'm intrigued. They give off major fake vibes but still. I am intrigued.

Still searching for the elusive 8's or better. I'd really like to find that playing field, or settle for 7's but at a lower price point LOL. Yes. I realize the spas / ktvs or walking around Longshan Temple will probably be my best bet.

[QUOTE=Filler17;2812568]Just a short FR from my experience on JKF.

This is probably not the way to go if your language skills are not up to par. Not only do you need to be somewhat able to read chinese itself when navigating, but contacting the girl / GTO is all in Mandarin as well.

Went on the JKF site and navigated to the 5 Flower 8 Door massage section and chose the area I wanted. Most of the girls seem to be in the 5 Woods / Zhongshan and Wanhua / Ximending areas. Was also able to find a list of reviews of different girls in the Zhongshan area. A lot of the reviewers also have photos of the girl, with the face barely blurred out. From what I could tell, most of the girls there are non-Taiwanese, usually Thai or Viet, and are usually cheaper, with pricing being around 1. 8-2. 5 k /60/1's. I also looked at the girls with a decent amount of replies / reviews on their posting. Didn't trust that the 0 reply ones weren't scams.

After finding a girl I liked, I sent a text to the phone number provided (no LINE listed). No reply after a few hours, so I just ended up calling. Discovered that the woman answering the phone (not the girl I was requesting), was either the GTO or answering on behalf and couldn't read / write chinese. Asked me what time I wanted and gave me the address over the phone.

Showed up at the location and called the number when I arrived. Told me to wait a bit and after around 10 minutes, told me to ring apartment number 5. Got buzzed in and met the girl. Pretty similar service, as other girls but my girl was a little tired / unenthusiastic as it seems she has a lot of customers that day. Did give me a CIM and second shot for free though, and wasn't rushing me out the door even though she had another customer after me. Damage 2. 1 k.

Haven't met with any yet but also looked into some of the independent girls on JKF, which mostly seem to be Taiwanese. All provide their LINE in the posting and will tell you pricing and services provided. Seems standard is 3000 k for 1's. None of the ones I asked told me how long the service was though, so I'm assuming 1 HR is standard. One of them even provided a selfie with full un-blurred face. Will probably try one of these independent JKF girls next.

Hope this helped.[/QUOTE]That was my standard experience on jkf. I ended up trying a Taiwanese girl as well and asides being able to communicate better, everything else was worse. Cost more, did less. Luck of the draw. I'll probably still try another Taiwanese sister next time but will mostly focus on foreign trade. I saw 2 or 3 last time and service was great for all of them.

I don't trust any ads that say they're independent too. Tw girl said was independent but when I got there and talked to her it was different than text. I was also told to meet at another location first. I think they do that for 2 reasons. One to make sure you're there and real. Second because it's a broker and they're figuring out where to send you. Only use pics as a reference. Even if it's the actual girl she will be different and not beautified.

I actually didn't mind using brokers. They'll send you a list of pics of their stable after they vet you. Pics will be slightly more accurate and you can ask for advice on who is popular and gotten good feedback. Issue for most travelers will be having a Taiwanese number and Chinese communication using a translator.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2812755]That is not really a problem. It could be 2 or 3 girls sharing the same room. Three is really not many reason to worry about safety in Taipei. I just use my local number to contact them because many only takes calls, no text messaging. Don't bring anything that is not needed, or too much money. Keep an eye on your belongings when in the room.[/QUOTE]The two "girls" (Nadia and Rosa) I contacted that both used the identical picture for their incall hotel appear to be fake ads run by the same person. I googled the phone number that was listed. I hadn't even clicked on phone number previously since I was using ID names to contact. And in the search results came back photos of Rosa under the name Nadia. So anyway, obviously someone's managing all these listings and using fake photos. Too bad, they were perhaps TGTBT but I was hoping it was true in Taiwan LOL.

Again I wonder aloud. What's the worst that could happen though? Just a bait and switch? Can I make it clear that I will walk away if I don't like what I see?

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2813629]The two "girls" (Nadia and Rosa) I contacted that both used the identical picture for their incall hotel appear to be fake ads run by the same person. I googled the phone number that was listed. I hadn't even clicked on phone number previously since I was using ID names to contact. And in the search results came back photos of Rosa under the name Nadia. So anyway, obviously someone's managing all these listings and using fake photos. Too bad, they were perhaps TGTBT but I was hoping it was true in Taiwan LOL.

Again I wonder aloud. What's the worst that could happen though? Just a bait and switch? Can I make it clear that I will walk away if I don't like what I see?[/QUOTE]Never forget, and always be aware, YOU ALWAYS have that option of turning your back and walking away. As they hold that same right, and we wouldn't think twice about being rejected.

I have been in situations, where for whatever reason, I was repulsed, and I just left. And, sometimes it occurred as they were undressing, and I got a glimpse of something I didn't want to mix with. It could even be too much perfume masking an underlying condition.

Anywhere in Taipei to get a manzilian waxing and HJ?

[QUOTE=WillyTp;2758918]I've been having some absolutely mind blowing experiences with a Viet escort girl called Helen. You can find her on the escort listing site that has Euro in the title. I feel it's my duty to share as this site has been a great source of info. Admittedly the pictures are not her, but similar hair style and an absolutely fantastic looking girl in great shape with lightly and tastefully upgraded parts.

Definitely more on the higher end cost spectrum (8 k and up), but. She is such a wild one, I can't help myself.

Amazing BBBJ, if you're into rimming (and you're clean! She will quite literally blow your mind. She will control you, you will be lost. DATY, DFK, any position, just no Greek.

Please, if you do meet her, be good to her. She's a star.[/QUOTE]Can anyone let me know how to reach her? I love rimming. Hard to find good providers that perform well at it.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2813629]...Again I wonder aloud. What's the worst that could happen though?..[/QUOTE]I agree with Amazake. Leave before you enter the door if you can. I have done it many times. I even use the bathroom once before I left. If it is a hotel, the girls will not make the situation worse that they would be keep out.

I prefer to deal with agents. The agent knew I always take someone if he / she made effort. It got to a point that I would go to different hotel and look interview as many girls as I could in the room until I made a choice. All agents have similar pool. There is even a website that list all the available girls all over Taiwan.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2814164]I agree with Amazake. Leave before you enter the door if you can. I have done it many times. I even use the bathroom once before I left. If it is a hotel, the girls will not make the situation worse that they would be keep out.

I prefer to deal with agents. The agent knew I always take someone if he / she made effort. It got to a point that I would go to different hotel and look interview as many girls as I could in the room until I made a choice. All agents have similar pool. There is even a website that list all the available girls all over Taiwan.[/QUOTE]If I might quote Paul Simon's song, "50 Ways To Leave Your Lover".

"You just slip out the back, Jack.

Make a new plan, Stan.

You don't need to be coy, Roy.

Just get yourself free.

Hop on the bus, Gus.

You don't need to discuss much.

Just drop off the key, Lee.

And get yourself free. ".

"I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further. ".

Like Amakaze said just walk away. You have no obligation to stay; especially if you discover you've been tricked. You're in the position of power. Don't let the girl Darth Vader you if the deal has been altered.

[QUOTE=Tperat;2814054]Can anyone let me know how to reach her? I love rimming. Hard to find good providers that perform well at it.[/QUOTE]I contacted her via eurogirls almost a month ago, but it seems she's taken her posting down recently. Might just be temporarily out of the country. Probably wait a bit and see if she's back in a month or so.

[QUOTE=Filler17;2815084]I contacted her via eurogirls almost a month ago, but it seems she's taken her posting down recently. Might just be temporarily out of the country. Probably wait a bit and see if she's back in a month or so.[/QUOTE]I believe she's on the other Eurogirls website. That's where I found her (she's the only listing for Taipei LOL) I haven't gone to see her yet so I'm not 100% sure, but it's the same name and fits the description others have given. She quoted me 10 k for incall. I plan to see her in the next month hopefully, but I have been giving priority to the visiting girls who are here for a limited time only.

Sorry, I hate to beat a dead horse and be pedantic, but everyone who's replied to my question keeps saying to trust my gut, be safe, don't be afraid to walk away, etc. But I really am wanting to know, in all likelihood, what is the worst that could happen? How much caution should I take towards being scammed / blackmailed? Being robbed? Have you all heard / seen such things? Or in the vast likelihood is the worst situation simply a bait and switch where they just hope that you will settle for what you see? Cause I'm finding lots of TGTBT listings, which I would never even consider for a moment in the US, but here I'm thinking why not just go give it a chance. Cause what's the worst that could happen?

I went back for round 2 with Nesty. She got me curious when she told me I had misunderstood her, and that the friend she suggested to join us was actually here in Taipei already. She was somewhat firm at 16 k total for the two of them. I was on the fence and then several hours later she reeled me in by recruiting a third friend for a total of 20 k, 90 minutes, 2 shots. Third friend had a cute face but was chubby, I could tell from the photos she was trying to hide some of that roundness. But whatever, I was convinced by the prospect of this first and probably once-in-a-lifetime encounter for me. The meeting location was changed from the previous week, and because I was being asked to bring the most cash I've ever had to bring to any single date, I simply decided not to LOL. I just showed up, met the 3 Filipinas (they said their names but I don't remember). Nesty dolls up very nicely, friend #2 was as attractive as she looked in her photos and I would give her a 7.9. Pretty much an 8 except her body shows signs of not being a 20 year old anymore. Friend #3 was as expected except that her personality was larger than life. Very very fun and outgoing girl. I excused myself to go to the ATM (already scoped out around the corner) and after retrieving cash I left my ATM card in my bicycle so that the only thing I took to the room was cash and my phone. I just imagined that with three girls it would be easy for them to snoop in my stuff if they chose to. (I am quite certain as it turns out they did not even have the slightest inclination to do so).

Won't bore you with too many details but their operation was a well-oiled machine in a good way. They took lots of turns and everyone was very fun. The girls have left Taiwan but supposedly will be back in a few months. I would consider seeing friend #2 again on her own, or seeing her with Nesty if the price is right. Friend #2 was my favorite in terms of looks and skills. Now I just need to find out what her name / contact is.

Hello Boys:

I was in my regular Wanhua haunt. Had a massage at the nail salon. Great massage. She was weak. So, when they are weak, I have them walk on my body. So, it was greatly relaxing. But, because of her cuteness, and unable to deliver in the sensual department, I became a bit savage, upon leaving. But, it had to be the right one.

I searched high and low for someone to fit the bill. My old dates welcomed me, but my memory of their energy level and passion, forced me to turn them all down, much to their disappointment.

I almost gave up, but a very smiley, giggly, robust Thai "Betty Boop" stole my attention. I knew it was her or bust. Met her while walking the alleys between Kangding and Xichang Market.

Told her that I was in great need and got her to promise to deliver. She giggled and told me not to worry my heart. She was confident, game, ready, willing, and more than able. Such a cute, vibrant, zesty, sexy young lady.

Did I mention "Betty Boop?" I wasn't lying. Shorter, amazingly spectacular hips, no waist line, gorgeous plump breast and nipples, luxurious hair and in her twenties. Very cute and sexy. (Sorry; rambling and being repetitious, am I).

We went at it like two pigs in heat. Plenty of screams, whimpers, banging, orgasms; the girl loved being out of control, loved to grind and be submissive. Easily transitioning from being dominant to submissive and back again.

Went past the buzzer, and she answered her precautionary phone call from her manager and she said that all was fine in between her huffing and puffing. She put down the phone, and we went at it one more time.

Took a shower together, gave me a hug and we departed.

I'll tell you boys, if this was my last rodeo on earth, I could leave well-contented and satisfied. There is nothing left undone, nor to be desired for.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2815111]Sorry, I hate to beat a dead horse and be pedantic, but everyone who's replied to my question keeps saying to trust my gut, be safe, don't be afraid to walk away, etc. But I really am wanting to know, in all likelihood, what is the worst that could happen? How much caution should I take towards being scammed / blackmailed? Being robbed? Have you all heard / seen such things? Or in the vast likelihood is the worst situation simply a bait and switch where they just hope that you will settle for what you see? Cause I'm finding lots of TGTBT listings, which I would never even consider for a moment in the US, but here I'm thinking why not just go give it a chance. Cause what's the worst that could happen?[/QUOTE]I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.

That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.

[QUOTE=Pickley;2815902]I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Yeah that's basically how I feel. I just didn't want to let my guard down and walk into a trap. A lot of these fake listings are a 100% immediate no go in the USA, but here I'm thinking I could just take a look cause some of them are just too tempting!

[QUOTE=Pickley;2815902]
That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.[/QUOTE]Yeah I hear ya, but in a way it's not apples to apples cause I'm not in a position where I can just take off to Vietnam / Philippines / etc whenever I want to. Definitely jealous of any of the fellas on here who are free to do whatever they want. And actually, if I was free as a bird I'd probably do far less of this paid stuff cause it does seem I am more than capable of pulling some attractive ladies on my own. But alas I'm probably in my twilight years of still being able to do so. I am hoping to get a job soon that will require me to make some trips around Asia. But it's far from a certainty. So I can only take what's available here in Taiwan. And furthermore, two of the three Filipinas I met are based in UAE, so their context is quite different from back home I imagine.

Just got to give a shout-out to zinzin. From a service standpoint, she is the absolute far and a way the #1 I've ever seen in this hobby. By far. She says she is a mixed Viet / Russian girl who lives in Thailand. She says that she is relatively new to this career. I have no reason to doubt her on those things, but what I can say with certainty is she is both experienced and passionate about sex. Wow, there's no way she could fake the enthusiasm she gives. She honestly did not seem like the money mattered to her. Also gave me an extremely extended visit, kinda seemed sad that I decided to leave when I left (after the second shot which is a RARITY for me). She also gave me an absolutely incredible full body massage in the middle of our session while I was recuperating and she was extremely pleasant about anything and everything the entire evening. She has tons of rave reviews on the MR site, and they were all 100% true to my experience. Oh yeah and her hotel was the nicest one I've seen so far in this hobby in Taipei. Made it an even more comfortable experience.

My one and only caveat is that she kept the room dimly lit the entire time so I can't give a supremely accurate rating of her looks. My best guess is that she's a cute girl with a nice upper body and maybe a few extra pounds in the stomach and ass regions. Which for some folks might be a good thing. Her photos seem to be 100% accurate. When she returns to Taiwan, I highly recommend seeing her and treating her well. I really hope she doesn't get burned out or mistreated in any way, she's super sweet and I would love to see her again.

Recently saw a new girl has arrived in Taiwan, and the pictures seemed too good to be true. Ended up video calling her and discussing her price / services.

She said it was 10 k incall for 1-2 hours and 15 k incall for 2-3 hours. Unlimited shots and will let you do anything.

I have an appointment scheduled with her tomorrow at 2 pm and was wondering if there is anything I should be worried about as it seems to good to be true. Any possibility its a TS?

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2816355]Just got to give a shout-out to zinzin. From a service standpoint, she is the absolute far and a way the #1 I've ever seen in this hobby. By far. She says she is a mixed Viet / Russian girl who lives in Thailand. She says that she is relatively new to this career. I have no reason to doubt her on those things, but what I can say with certainty is she is both experienced and passionate about sex. Wow, there's no way she could fake the enthusiasm she gives. She honestly did not seem like the money mattered to her. Also gave me an extremely extended visit, kinda seemed sad that I decided to leave when I left (after the second shot which is a RARITY for me). She also gave me an absolutely incredible full body massage in the middle of our session while I was recuperating and she was extremely pleasant about anything and everything the entire evening. She has tons of rave reviews on the MR site, and they were all 100% true to my experience. Oh yeah and her hotel was the nicest one I've seen so far in this hobby in Taipei. Made it an even more comfortable experience.

My one and only caveat is that she kept the room dimly lit the entire time so I can't give a supremely accurate rating of her looks. My best guess is that she's a cute girl with a nice upper body and maybe a few extra pounds in the stomach and ass regions. Which for some folks might be a good thing. Her photos seem to be 100% accurate. When she returns to Taiwan, I highly recommend seeing her and treating her well. I really hope she doesn't get burned out or mistreated in any way, she's super sweet and I would love to see her again.[/QUOTE]Can't find Zinzin in MR or Euro. But thanks for your report regardless.

In terms of safety, I felt safe in my experience. But I can't say I am an expert in this. But after going through a few escorts, experiences in every girls are different and they felt more vulnerable than we are.

I certainly tried listings that appear to be too good to be true. Some girls are even more beautiful than their postings（already amazing) but the experience was lacking. Some girls are gorgeous and the experiences are OK. There seems to be quite a few bait and switch going on. But I had a great time in some of those because the girls looked nice and the experience was great.

I believe I posted some of my experiences here.

I haven't been in Taiwan for a few months and haven't kept up with recent listings on MR and Euro.

Please keep the reviews coming.

Follow up on the new girl that landed, Karina.

I straight up asked her if she was post-op or born female and she said born female, but I still had a feeling that she was lying, since her voice over the call was definitely a bit deeper than a woman's. Ended up finding her on a few other trans escorts sites using her username as well as an old MR posting where she still had it listed that she was post-op.

My first hint should've been when one review said that she was extremely tall, but I could not tell at all from the face. Will probably end up cancelling my appointment with her.

Does anyone know if in terms of infections / STIs, it is more dangerous to be with a post-op trans woman? Just curious in case I'm ever interested in experiencing that.

Also was wondering, how many of my fellow mongers here are vaccinated for different types of STIs / or is just using condoms the way how most people do it?

Hoping that Amazake will answer as a long-time veteran haha.

[QUOTE=Tperat;2814054]Can anyone let me know how to reach her? I love rimming. Hard to find good providers that perform well at it.[/QUOTE]You are in luck. She is back on Euro.

I don't like rimming so I asked her not to do that. But she is nice even without her signature move.

[QUOTE=HughJass;2792622]Here's a little report from my time in Taipei:

I saw a lot of working girls along the sides of the Xichang night market, but there were also many police officers. Sometimes the police and girls would be talking to each other. I didn't dare approach.

The highlight was visiting Helen from Euro, who has been mentioned on this forum before. She loves to lick ass. Her price is 10 k now, but it was the best ass licking I've ever had. 30 minutes of her going crazy down there while stroking me. It was like nothing I've ever experienced. I saw her a few times. She'll make you feel special.

I saw another girl, Karina (Filipina), from MR and had a terrible experience. When I showered, there were like ten condoms in the rubbish bin. I think she'd been fucking guys all day. She was exhausted and was like a dead body on the bed. She just laid on her face while I fucked her from behind. She had a bad attitude too. I'm not sure why I didn't just leave. She tried to guilt trip me about her poverty and even asked for a tip. The whole experience left me feeling bad about myself..[/QUOTE]This is actually a reply to Filler17.

Not quite sure if it is the same Karina. But HughJass said that she had so many customers that it was not a good experience.

[QUOTE=Filler17;2816590]Follow up on the new girl that landed, Karina.

I straight up asked her if she was post-op or born female and she said born female, but I still had a feeling that she was lying, since her voice over the call was definitely a bit deeper than a woman's. Ended up finding her on a few other trans escorts sites using her username as well as an old MR posting where she still had it listed that she was post-op.

My first hint should've been when one review said that she was extremely tall, but I could not tell at all from the face. Will probably end up cancelling my appointment with her.

Does anyone know if in terms of infections / STIs, it is more dangerous to be with a post-op trans woman? Just curious in case I'm ever interested in experiencing that.

Also was wondering, how many of my fellow mongers here are vaccinated for different types of STIs / or is just using condoms the way how most people do it?

Hoping that Amazake will answer as a long-time veteran haha.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the invitation to speak.

All I use is a condom, being from an older generation when that was all that existed, anyway, and considered the gold-standard.

So, it is just done out of habit.

I am low tech in just about every phase of my life. And, that is not worthy of any accolades or being praise-worthy. Just laziness.

In fact, your point of bringing up vaccinations is a point well-taken and truly worthy of serious consideration, especially in light of the mileage on these ladies and their willingness to do anything for a buck. At some point, they must let their guard down to please a customer or to just want to get rid of him quickly and go raw.

Also, as a person like us exposed to so many women of high-use, when we eventually settle down with a lady of good moral stature, we don't want to expose an innocent lovely lady to these street diseases, ruin our relationship with her, and have her never respect us again, and possibly even killing her. How do you live that down?

Sorry for being so blunt, but I had a close-call once with a lady I cared deeply about, and it was embarrassing, and I was never treated again with the same reverence. So, I am giving you / all the straight dope for your future happiness. It is still a "raw" feeling in my psyche; no pun intended.

So, yes, every precaution to protect yourself and others sounds good, and I should probably get my lazy dog ass down to the vet's office and get my shots, too. But, until then, I will use a condom. And, again, preferably my own, if she is reaching for one of those pitiful, unwrapped, skimpy, narrow, third-world garage manufactured imitations, instead of a sturdy Trojan or Durex.

Good luck, my dear friend. Stay safe, clean, and I wish you and everyone else a healthy, satisfying, prosperous life.

[QUOTE=Pickley;2815902]I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.

That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pickley;2815902]I think you might have more experience than me at this point in Taiwan but I've never felt in any true danger of anything in Taiwan. At most I feel like I'll get lightly scammed or bait and switched. Up front robbery is something I doubt will happen. Maybe some theft. For the most part I think you'll even be safe from theft but always be careful. In your other post you had some alertness to guard against being robbed stolen from in 4 some. That's good instincts to have even if nothing happened.

That being said and I know this is Taiwan forum but man, 20 k ntd seems like a lot to pay for Filipinas for me now that I've experienced Philippines. That would have paid for a weeks worth of overnights in Angeles city. Or at least 2-3 nights in makati. It's like 4 k php to bar find a girl in AC and about 10 k for makati because you tip another 4 k in the morning there. That's girl bar prices too; apps or street girls would be much cheaper. It's over 50 php to the dollar. Of course Philippines is much more dangerous and you'll actually face the situation of being robbed especially in 3 some where you get distracted. That actually happen to me my first night, someone stole $40 from me which wasn't that bad a lesson. I know you can't compare apples to apples because PH is truly a 3rd world experience. Well makati isn't that bad if you just stay in that block radius and stay in a nice hotel.[/QUOTE]You guys by now know that I do this hobby on the cheap.

And, I have always been cheap, even when making good money. But, I was never making money to the point where I could blow many thousands in say Las Vegas and not lose sleep.

Thrifty blokes like myself put houses and cars ahead of the hobby. Yet, still enjoying the hobby, enjoying budget girls down by the tracks, in shacks, in 5 story walkups and in alleyways. I also do love the degraded mystique of yesteryear, remnants of a third world country where locals found their needs met.

But, for others, who are more civilized than myself, they prefer a much higher standard. However, I do appease myself by oftentimes finding "diamonds in the rough. "But, those diamonds are founded by luck, and favorable circumstances, blessings from gods of the temples for good deeds and kindnesses I have offered to others in the course of my life.

And, once these "diamonds" are discovered, they are swooped away by some savvy pimp and then become his main more pricey attractions. Woefully, I remorse losing many of these "diamonds" after a single visit.

Some of these outings with 3 or more girls, like AbcGators enlisted are nicely choreographed, premium encounters, that are created and experienced to a point of great satisfaction, to be later crossed off the bucket list once fulfilled. They are a staged event of sorts, somewhat akin to having a rock star, porn star experience. It is important to have our desires fulfilled, in order for us to move on to bigger and better experiences. And, more importantly, they are as safe as possibly could be created.

Back some 10 years or so when the Huaxi Tea Rooms were younger, brighter and more vibrant, and I was feeling my full strength, I had three girls in the room, all good-looking and frisky, but two were more side dishes, and one was my main course. I got away with paying under 2 k. But, it was plenty fun.

I certainly watched my wallet constantly. But, it was certainly not as elaborate as the outing described here by AbcGators with full-play with all girls being in their 20's, with unhindered willingness and consent from all. I mean, this is a real unabashed sex party for 90 minutes. And, for Taiwan, not being a third-world country, in a major city like Taipei, 20 k is not really outrageous pricing, especially if it is disposable income. In western countries, it would be easily double or triple that.

For fulfillment of a major sex fantasy, done in a safe manner, where at least some of the girls can be sourced back by reputation and bound to uphold their integrity with respect to honesty and performance, I can see splurging in a fun and safe way, especially if it is money easily found, spent and recouped.

On the streets, trying to put three girls together like that for 90 minutes in Taiwan, would have to cost that much and the synergy would be disjointed, unprepared, lack of focus, a three-ring circus, as opposed to a low-budget film.

In many ways, I applaud the well-thought-out plan and successful completion to his satisfaction.

[QUOTE=NigtRider;2816588]Can't find Zinzin in MR or Euro. But thanks for your report regardless.
Please keep the reviews coming.[/QUOTE]Well damn, I did some digging to help you find her (she's left Taiwan but I'm sure she'll be back) and am now realizing that Zinzin is likely post-op. That would be my first time, so two first times for me in the last two weeks LOL. I've accepted this fact, but I'm a bit bummed and embarrassed about calling her by far the best service I've ever received. It was true though and I guess it makes sense. In hindsight there are some other clues that I could have picked up on. But I'm surprised cause I didn't notice a difference in the actual activity. I have a friend who's experienced a TS before and described the obvious differences, but I simply didn't notice.

Not the best experience. She was actually fairly good mechanically but my complaints:

1) not as good looking as her photos. It's actually her, but she wears a lot of makeup and the photos are more flattering than they ought to be.

2) a slight attitude shift and a gtfo after we were done. My 1 hour lasted about 40 minutes despite the promise of a massage after.

3) refused me a BBBJ and cum on body despite being listed in her ad (I went back to check).

4) did not shower together, only separate. Found that a bit odd.

These are not minor complaints, and so I will not return and do not recommend. That said, she was otherwise totally pleasant and I thought her skills were quite good.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2816987]Not the best experience. She was actually fairly good mechanically but my complaints:

1) not as good looking as her photos. It's actually her, but she wears a lot of makeup and the photos are more flattering than they ought to be.

2) a slight attitude shift and a gtfo after we were done. My 1 hour lasted about 40 minutes despite the promise of a massage after.

3) refused me a BBBJ and cum on body despite being listed in her ad (I went back to check).

4) did not shower together, only separate. Found that a bit odd.

These are not minor complaints, and so I will not return and do not recommend. That said, she was otherwise totally pleasant and I thought her skills were quite good.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Is she really 5'7"?

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2816986]Well damn, I did some digging to help you find her (she's left Taiwan but I'm sure she'll be back) and am now realizing that Zinzin is likely post-op. That would be my first time, so two first times for me in the last two weeks LOL. I've accepted this fact, but I'm a bit bummed and embarrassed about calling her by far the best service I've ever received. It was true though and I guess it makes sense. In hindsight there are some other clues that I could have picked up on. But I'm surprised cause I didn't notice a difference in the actual activity. I have a friend who's experienced a TS before and described the obvious differences, but I simply didn't notice.[/QUOTE]I am sure I have had experiences with post-op before without realizing it. How do you find out Zinzin is a post-op? Any tricks that one uses to find out if an escort is a post-op?

What did your friend say that give post-op away?

Any experiences / thoughts on her? I've gotten a little psyched out now trying to spot who might be a hidden TS.

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[QUOTE=NigtRider;2817461]Thanks for the report. Is she really 5'7"?[/QUOTE]Yeah that seems about right. She was definitely taller than I expected.

[QUOTE=NigtRider;2817463]I am sure I have had experiences with post-op before without realizing it. How do you find out Zinzin is a post-op? Any tricks that one uses to find out if an escort is a post-op?

What did your friend say that give post-op away?[/QUOTE]If you search for zinzin on these forums you'll see a couple people who are quite certain that she is post-op based on their deep knowledge and experience. To me it is very possible too. Some of the details I recall are the dim lighting, the fact that zinzin had so much patience with me and didn't have any trouble taking a long pounding (I'm 6' and I've always felt average but since coming to Taiwan everyone seems to make it out like I'm massive. And all the girls I've seen besides ZZ need a break after a minute or two).

My friend had said something to the effect of it just being different and noticeable when he went to 69. I honestly didn't pay much attention at the time because it was part of a really funny story and also I naively assumed such a thing could never happen to me! At this point it would probably be weird for me to ask him about that story again. Anyway I dunno. I'd certainly like to find out more clues as well.

I really appreciate Filler's post about Karina, otherwise I had every intention of seeing her. And I mean, to me it's not the end of the world if I end up with a post-op. But it's a significant factor in deciding who to see.

[QUOTE=NigtRider;2817463]I am sure I have had experiences with post-op before without realizing it. How do you find out Zinzin is a post-op? Any tricks that one uses to find out if an escort is a post-op?

What did your friend say that give post-op away?[/QUOTE]It's a dilemma, indeed. Because, obviously, aside from the altered genitalia, all other aspects of the body are almost identical, or could be, with respect to both sexes.

And, a post-op, could appear even more feminine and accommodating because they are compensating for all the lost years in the wrong body, and making up for lost time by really showering you with femininity, and the smokescreen can be mesmerizing.

I only know of one time when I was going all-in recklessly for the bait. It was in this country, and she was a civilian, not a pro, shaking her lavish, and all natural hips, in a gorgeous tight dress with heels in a nice shopping mall area. I mean, from her back, she appeared more female than a born-female. And, I just assumed her to be a flamboyant horny civilian, looking to hook up.

We got to talking, and I noticed nothing untoward, except that we were really hitting it off. The conversation was close and sexy and highly intelligent. It was almost a "fait accompli. " We both knew we were headed to the bedroom.

The conversation was extremely open and transparent and the post-op mentioned a recent surgery in conversation. I inquired as to the surgery, and was told, extremely matter-of-fact, "an orchiectomy. " Now, not such a common medical term, I did not recognize it immediately. And, we went on with lively spirited enjoyable chit-chat, while I am pulling apart this word simultaneously, but without asking for a definition, and still smiling and being pleasant, not to spoil the vibe.

So, I went to the latter half of the word, "ectomy," knowing it meant surgical removal. Okay, fine, she probably had a simple surgical removal of an annoying bone spur. Fine. But, without breaking stride in conversation, my mind was grappling with the first half of the word, "orchi. " Strange little word, I thought. Heard it or read it before. "Oh, yeah, GNC Vitamin Store used to sell sex vitamins and I once read the ingredients, and the words "bovine orchic" was a listed ingredient.

Suddenly, the two words merged, and I felt a devastation and a dull ache in my lower abdomen and crotch, a sudden deep panic that vibrated to my soul, as my mind reinterpreted the medical term into its common usage, "castration. ".

The conversation stopped midstream. I gasped for air. I excused myself, saying I just realized I am missing an important appointment, enraptured in our conversation, stumbled onto the streets, got some air, cup of coffee, and tried to shake it off.

You have to realize that you young guys grew up with this phenomenon as fairly common. But, I grew up in a time where it's rarity was so extreme.

All that being said, I imagine a possible hint might be if she fails to have fluids below, without lubricants. Also, many have the broader skull and forehead of a male, and need the structure to be recontoured, and, of course, the Adam's apple, bigger hands, voice, broad shoulders. But, of course once Cupid's arrow hits, your brain shuts down and you are thinking with your lower brain.

Short update to help you guys out in case you're curious to try out Babygirl.

So in summary. Would I recommend. Yeah I would suggest trying out, will give you some details below.

Firstly, are the photos accurate? Yes, actually some of the most accurate photos I've seen on that site. You'll definitely know it's her and very similar, most accurate is the one with flowers and cakes or black dress, Sometimes in these ads and they're too touched up and when you meet you can tell it's the same girl but a bit out of date or figure is a bit worse.

Secondly, looks, she was my type, sexy figure, pretty face, and lots of tattoos. Only thing is that there boltons but otherwise all seemed natural. You'll know anyway from the pics.

Thirdly, service. This is where she gets let down a bit. This is a kangding style romp but in a much nicer setting (hotel in ximending). She said she'd showered already so lone shower first, . Managed a lot of positions and she was partially guiding that, with some sexy moves along the way. Everything covered and wouldn't have done anything different.

How was the damage - 5 k for one shot. Seemed pretty fair and I didn't try to bargain, though I was primed to walk out if anything was off. I'd say that's pretty good value by Taipei standards.

Any other negatives? Two things to consider apart from the fairly basic service:

One was strong smell of perfume. Sometimes get the sense that is masking something but didn't get that sense, just seemed a bit heavy handed with perfume.

Second is her attitude. She was very pleasant and maybe even more than that, but this was a transaction and nothing more. There's not too much additional warmth.

If you see her can mention I introduced.

I need a little circle of support from my fellow hobbyists. Hopefully I can snap out of this ASAP. After learning about zinzin (who I met) and Karina (who I didn't meet but was completely fooled by the ad) I have started to become slightly obsessed with the idea of TS / TG. Not that I want it, but that I'm constantly thinking about it. In the last couple days I've conversed with a ton more visiting ladies and kinda narrowed down a short list of 7 or 8 that I'd like to try to meet in the next week (No I'm not going to meet them all but I just organize them in my mind and then kinda feel out who I'm most interested in when I have the availability) Anyway, ever single one of them that I've talked to has amazing photos, but then I just stare at them and slowly imagine them morph into a man. I spent about 30 minutes tonight reading an in depth article on how to spot a TS. It's consuming all of my brain function that I have set aside for the hobby. (Thankfully not really obsessing over it in my civilian life. Yet).

Anyway, tonight I went out on a quick outing to meet Uki from Massage Republic. She was fine looking, not amazing but perfectly acceptable. I was excited as we took the elevator up to her room. But then I noticed that I was more nervous than excited as we began our session. Something was off with me. And I was annoyed that she turned off two of the three lights in the room. It wasn't too dark, but my head started questioning. Why does it need to be harder to see. And why does it seem like she's turned in such a way to hide her pussy from me. While receiving BBBJ I started staring at her arms / elbows (there's an elbow test for men vs women), I stared at her neck (is that an adam's apple? I stared at her sorta man hands. Her breasts were fake, which I have zero problem with normally but then. Well, why are they fake? And why does she have to be from Thailand? I just couldn't get it out of my mind. And then I started losing my blood flow. I excused myself to go to the shower. I asked her to join me and she declined and seemed once again to be hiding her pussy. When I stepped back out from the shower, I asked her. Were you ever a man? No no she replied. We went back and forth a few times like this. I assured her I would love to know if she was and just want to find out more, but she denied denied denied. I told her about what happened to me to elicit sympathy, once again tell her that I'm totally happy with leaving the way things are but if she can tell me the truth I'd be even more happy. No, she said again that she was never a man. So I apologized, I told her it had nothing to do with her at all and was just about what happened to me and now my brain is all confused and messed up. I would try to relax. We slowly got back into things, she started back down on the BBBJ, and then my brain started thinking about all the same things again. And after a minute I just told her I was done. Sorry. It's not you it's me.

As I left, I still felt 50/50. As much as she denied it, I felt there was still a good chance she either just has a rule to always deny it for self-preservation, or perhaps she's had to psychologically believe and forget her past. On the other hand, it's entirely possible she was telling the truth. There were no smoking guns here. Her hands weren't slender and delicate, but neither were they extreme man hands. Her elbows didn't seem to bend quite enough, her neck maybe had a bulge or maybe not. Nothing definitive and in fact none of these tests are definitive. One funny thing was that at one point I literally opened her legs to see her pussy, which she had been very reluctant to allow me to do (we were just sitting so it wasn't a natural move) and she let me see everything for about 1. 5 seconds. It looked a little off to me, but then not really. The strangest thing about it all imo was that she just didn't want me to see it. And then she covered herself back up and told me she just thinks it is weird and that she doesn't think that part of women's bodies are very attractive. Ok, the words weren't super convincing but her manner and delivery was convincing enough. She did seem like she could legitimately be a woman who felt that way.

In any case, the bottom line is that I couldn't help myself at all. Even if she was the most gorgeous woman in the world, I feel like I would've stared at certain aspects long enough to wonder. Cause being TS definitely doesn't make you less attractive. I'm just not sure how I'll get over this! I may just need to convince my brain that a post-op TS is in fact no different than a woman from birth in terms of pleasuring myself. I don't know. Help!!

Now for a brief review of the items I didn't mention:

Uki was in fact herself in the images / videos shared. She's a little less attractive than the images, imo, but only slightly. I'd give her a 6. 5. Probably mid-30's, which is on the old side compared to all the girls I've met but certainly not old looking. But she's got a little bit of pudge around the stomach. Her ad is 5 k for one hour and 2 shots, 2. 5 k for 30 minutes, 2 k for 20 minutes. One of the main factors in choosing to see her was that she was the most economical ad I'd seen online (I took the 30 min option) I felt slightly bad for her not only because of my questioning her gender, but also because as we chatted I found out that she had come with an agency to work in Taichung but it was not good work. They had sorta misrepresented how much she'd have to work and she did not like it there at all. In her words she "escaped" to Taipei and now was managing herself. So anyway, to end this long, twisted post of mine, I'll just say if anyone wants to see her she's good looking for middle-agish, her BBBJ was good, her demeanor was kind and sweet, and please let me know if you think she's post-op!!

[QUOTE=BurgundyRon;2817728]Short update to help you guys out in case you're curious to try out Babygirl.
[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for your review. She's one of my shortlist (see my long rambling freak out post) and it may help me to see someone who's already been test-driven and given a seal of approval.

To be 100% clear, you're talking about "babygirl" and not "babygirl_bella / chesca" right? The second babygirl is also on my short list and even has appeared right below the first babygirl on the website (the listings shuffle around each time I visit).

Your post may be just what I need to get the confidence back up and not psych myself out anymore. She's definitely my type as well.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2817746]I need a little circle of support from my fellow hobbyists. Hopefully I can snap out of this ASAP. After learning about zinzin (who I met) and Karina (who I didn't meet but was completely fooled by the ad) I have started to become slightly obsessed with the idea of TS / TG. Not that I want it, but that I'm constantly thinking about it. In the last couple days I've conversed with a ton more visiting ladies and kinda narrowed down a short list of 7 or 8 that I'd like to try to meet in the next week (No I'm not going to meet them all but I just organize them in my mind and then kinda feel out who I'm most interested in when I have the availability) Anyway, ever single one of them that I've talked to has amazing photos, but then I just stare at them and slowly imagine them morph into a man. I spent about 30 minutes tonight reading an in depth article on how to spot a TS. It's consuming all of my brain function that I have set aside for the hobby. (Thankfully not really obsessing over it in my civilian life. Yet).

Anyway, tonight I went out on a quick outing to meet Uki from Massage Republic. She was fine looking, not amazing but perfectly acceptable. I was excited as we took the elevator up to her room. But then I noticed that I was more nervous than excited as we began our session. Something was off with me. And I was annoyed that she turned off two of the three lights in the room. It wasn't too dark, but my head started questioning. Why does it need to be harder to see. And why does it seem like she's turned in such a way to hide her pussy from me. While receiving BBBJ I started staring at her arms / elbows (there's an elbow test for men vs women), I stared at her neck (is that an adam's apple? I stared at her sorta man hands. Her breasts were fake, which I have zero problem with normally but then. Well, why are they fake? And why does she have to be from Thailand? I just couldn't get it out of my mind. And then I started losing my blood flow..[/QUOTE]You could ask to see her Thai ID. It would star Mr / mr / miss even if changed as their according to their gender at their birth.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2817746]I need a little circle of support from my fellow hobbyists. Hopefully I can snap out of this ASAP. After learning about zinzin (who I met) and Karina (who I didn't meet but was completely fooled by the ad) I have started to become slightly obsessed with the idea of TS / TG. Not that I want it, but that I'm constantly thinking about it. In the last couple days I've conversed with a ton more visiting ladies and kinda narrowed down a short list of 7 or 8 that I'd like to try to meet in the next week (No I'm not going to meet them all but I just organize them in my mind and then kinda feel out who I'm most interested in when I have the availability) Anyway, ever single one of them that I've talked to has amazing photos, but then I just stare at them and slowly imagine them morph into a man. I spent about 30 minutes tonight reading an in depth article on how to spot a TS. It's consuming all of my brain function that I have set aside for the hobby. (Thankfully not really obsessing over it in my civilian life. Yet).
[/QUOTE]Brother, I went through something similar in the PH. Realized halfway through BJ it was a trap. Kind of my fault because I didn't ask if she was a ladyboy before but she didn't give any hint. She looked prettier than most girls and had a feminine voice so I didn't even consider it. She had a good attitude and I tried to finish but I just couldn't; she really tried and I felt bad but couldn't get over her being a man. That messed with me mentally and I ended up going down a rabbit hole of researching warning signs. A lot can be covered up with good surgery. Adams Apple can be filed down, eyebrows can be worked on and voice can't always be a tell. Ring and middle finger length I think isn't too reliable as well. Broad shoulders and elbows I think are the most obvious signs. And post op surgery scars, but mine was pre op.

So after that experience I became paranoid every girl might have been a trap. I even started to doubt whether one of the girls I saw before was a trap. I'm mostly over my experience and have accepted things. I think you should for the most part just trust when a girl says she is a real girl if you ask directly. Most people will be honest. Just do your due diligence. There's only so much you can do and worry about. I know the experience is still fresh but don't try and find bones in an egg. It is what it is. If you try to find signs, you will be able to find doubt every time.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2816353]
Yeah I hear ya, but in a way it's not apples to apples cause I'm not in a position where I can just take off to Vietnam / Philippines / etc whenever I want to. Definitely jealous of any of the fellas on here who are free to do whatever they want. And actually, if I was free as a bird I'd probably do far less of this paid stuff cause it does seem I am more than capable of pulling some attractive ladies on my own. But alas I'm probably in my twilight years of still being able to do so. I am hoping to get a job soon that will require me to make some trips around Asia. But it's far from a certainty. So I can only take what's available here in Taiwan. And furthermore, two of the three Filipinas I met are based in UAE, so their context is quite different from back home I imagine.[/QUOTE]ABC and Amakaze, I totally understand it's not apples to apples to compare with a 3rd world country. But my stint in PH has kind of ruined me for Filipinas at least. It was a fluke I even went to Philippines but my CP value has been completely upturned by my experiences there. I can't look at Filipinas the same anymore haha. If you guys have a chance and can stand 3rd world conditions, I highly recommend trying. I've never been to Thailand or SEA so it was a completely new kind of mongering experience for me. The sheer value of what I experienced in PH was staggering. Other than maybe being a bit classier or in turn with westerner culture, you'the probably get higher mileage in PH at a fraction of the cost. The girls do EVERYTHING and the experiencing / pacing is a lot more girlfriend like. Anyways I'm going to hop off my soap box now.

[QUOTE=Pickley;2817879]Brother, I went through something similar in the PH. Realized halfway through BJ it was a trap. Kind of my fault because I didn't ask if she was a ladyboy before but she didn't give any hint. She looked prettier than most girls and had a feminine voice so I didn't even consider it. She had a good attitude and I tried to finish but I just couldn't; she really tried and I felt bad but couldn't get over her being a man. That messed with me mentally and I ended up going down a rabbit hole of researching warning signs. A lot can be covered up with good surgery. Adams Apple can be filed down, eyebrows can be worked on and voice can't always be a tell. Ring and middle finger length I think isn't too reliable as well. Broad shoulders and elbows I think are the most obvious signs. And post op surgery scars, but mine was pre op.

So after that experience I became paranoid every girl might have been a trap. I even started to doubt whether one of the girls I saw before was a trap. I'm mostly over my experience and have accepted things. I think you should for the most part just trust when a girl says she is a real girl if you ask directly. Most people will be honest. Just do your due diligence. There's only so much you can do and worry about. I know the experience is still fresh but don't try and find bones in an egg. It is what it is. If you try to find signs, you will be able to find doubt every time.

ABC and Amakaze, I totally understand it's not apples to apples to compare with a 3rd world country. But my stint in PH has kind of ruined me for Filipinas at least. It was a fluke I even went to Philippines but my CP value has been completely upturned by my experiences there. I can't look at Filipinas the same anymore haha. If you guys have a chance and can stand 3rd world conditions, I highly recommend trying. I've never been to Thailand or SEA so it was a completely new kind of mongering experience for me. The sheer value of what I experienced in PH was staggering. Other than maybe being a bit classier or in turn with westerner culture, you'the probably get higher mileage in PH at a fraction of the cost. The girls do EVERYTHING and the experiencing / pacing is a lot more girlfriend like. Anyways I'm going to hop off my soap box now.[/QUOTE]I have never been to the Philippines. But, after hearing your opinions, if I could ever break free, I would love to try it out. However, just for personal taste, I find them generally really cute, but I do prefer the more extreme Far Eastern features of certain Asian countries. But, that wouldn't get in my way. They are fine looking lively women.

My friend married a young one, about 35 years difference in age, and she made him a happy man. But, they had a fight one day, and his wife really likes me and respects me because I have helped her husband out of many problems. She knows I have good intentions. So, I acted as a sort of marriage counselor between them. I consoled her and comforted her, as she was new to the States. So, she likes me.

My friend told me that she is uninhibited in bed and is up for anything, and my friend approached me if I would be open to wife swapping, because he asked his Filipino wife, and she was ready to go. But, I like to keep my mongering less personal, and, besides, my wife would be utterly aghast and disgusted by such an escapade. But, still, I really appreciated her openness to having sex with her husband's good friend with his permission. It struck me as just so trusting, obedient, cute and friendly. I would never have done it, because these things have ways of coming back and biting you in the ass, but, it still had a certain innocence and sweetness to the invitation.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2817905]I have never been to the Philippines. But, after hearing your opinions, if I could ever break free, I would love to try it out. However, just for personal taste, I find them generally really cute, but I do prefer the more extreme Far Eastern features of certain Asian countries. But, that wouldn't get in my way. They are fine looking lively women.

My friend married a young one, about 35 years difference in age, and she made him a happy man. But, they had a fight one day, and his wife really likes me and respects me because I have helped her husband out of many problems. She knows I have good intentions. So, I acted as a sort of marriage counselor between them. I consoled her and comforted her, as she was new to the States. So, she likes me.

My friend told me that she is uninhibited in bed and is up for anything, and my friend approached me if I would be open to wife swapping, because he asked his Filipino wife, and she was ready to go. But, I like to keep my mongering less personal, and, besides, my wife would be utterly aghast and disgusted by such an escapade. But, still, I really appreciated her openness to having sex with her husband's good friend with his permission. It struck me as just so trusting, obedient, cute and friendly. I would never have done it, because these things have ways of coming back and biting you in the ass, but, it still had a certain innocence and sweetness to the invitation.[/QUOTE]In my youth I had such a crush on that cute Filipina look. That mix of Latina and Asian looks so exotic and cute to me. I'm mostly over that phase but still find the women very attractive. I think for a large part I was able to satisfy my cravings with my trip. Would I go back? Yeah I still want to. Having the right expectations and mentality. Do I think it's possible to have a real loving relationship, yes but it won't be easy. If you're from a first world country, the background is just so different.

On the upside Filipinas are more willing to ignore age difference than a lot of cultures. Super easy to find a 18 to mid 20's girlfriend as a middle aged man. The girls also love sex and are very open minded. It's also easier than average to get that girlfriend experience. On a mongering note, short time is 1-3 hours as opposed to less than an hour. Long time is overnight with a shot in the morning.

Downsides of PH is the poverty environment. It's seriously kind of sad and I feel bad for the people living in such poverty. If you've ever been to Tijuana, it will make Mexico seem developed. The nice areas can be very nice and modern but right around the corner are slums and shantys. It's hot in PH and a lot of places don't have AC. Like you'll have AC in your hotel room but not in the lobby or halls. Always be on the lookout for thievery. Didn't happen to me but a relative of mine was visiting with his wife and got purse snatched. The food is also not that great.

The hospitality of the Filipino culture is unreal. They are such caring people. They're very family oriented as well. That being said I feel like cheating happens a lot. Men are infamous for committing adultery and while the culture propetuates women being traditional, I wouldn't be surprised if they sneak as well. The women like sex. It's like easy mode trying to hook up in PH with civilians. They're sweet as can be but they're also all liars and two faced to some extent. Like they will want to show you their sweet side but will always want something underneath that. Don't be surprised if they continually ask for help for food, bills, school or family issues; they'll keep talking to you on text and ask every once in a while. I'm making myself sound like a misogynist but more so as a warning to you guys. Listen to Chris Brown when he says these hoes ain't loyal. I'm not hating because everyone has needs; just want you guys to be prepared. Don't fall for a girl easily because she acts like your sweet girlfriend or if she lets you do it without a condom because no one uses condoms there. I know Amakaze is really strict about protection but condoms are very optional in PH. They're very catholic over there.

As for swinging with your friend, I agree. I'the want to keep my mongering life separate. I feel like it can get super weird with people you know. At least I feel paranoid it would make things weird for the friendship. I've never even *****d with friends before, which actually sounds like it could be a cool experience. Especially something like going to FKK in Germany or a sex vacation. I think I can only do that with a couple of my friends. This is like my dirty little secret no one really knows about. Some of my boys know but even then only a few of my closest friends know any details. You probably really impressed your friends wife with your patience and understanding. By showing her you're a good caretaker and standup guy. You could have made a move on her during a moment of weakness but didn't and that probably made her like you more. I wouldn't be surprised if she somehow baited the wife swap idea to your friend.

I'm going to be visiting Taiwan soon and will be going to beitou to enjoy the hot springs. Any action out there? I hear year and years ago it was a hot spot but today it's all gone. If nothing else I'm going to try real hard on the dating apps. Would be so cool to enjoy a private hot tub with an equally hot companion.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2817746]I need a little circle of support from my fellow hobbyists. Hopefully I can snap out of this ASAP. After learning about zinzin (who I met) and Karina (who I didn't meet but was completely fooled by the ad) I have started to become slightly obsessed with the idea of TS / TG. Not that I want it, but that I'm constantly thinking about it. In the last couple days I've conversed with a ton more visiting ladies and kinda narrowed down a short list of 7 or 8 that I'd like to try to meet in the next week (No I'm not going to meet them all but I just organize them in my mind and then kinda feel out who I'm most interested in when I have the availability) Anyway, ever single one of them that I've talked to has amazing photos, but then I just stare at them and slowly imagine them morph into a man. I spent about 30 minutes tonight reading an in depth article on how to spot a TS. It's consuming all of my brain function that I have set aside for the hobby. (Thankfully not really obsessing over it in my civilian life. Yet).

Anyway, tonight I went out on a quick outing to meet Uki from Massage Republic. She was fine looking, not amazing but perfectly acceptable. I was excited as we took the elevator up to her room. But then I noticed that I was more nervous than excited as we began our session. Something was off with me. And I was annoyed that she turned off two of the three lights in the room. It wasn't too dark, but my head started questioning. Why does it need to be harder to see. And why does it seem like she's turned in such a way to hide her pussy from me. While receiving BBBJ I started staring at her arms / elbows (there's an elbow test for men vs women), I stared at her neck (is that an adam's apple? I stared at her sorta man hands. Her breasts were fake, which I have zero problem with normally but then. Well, why are they fake? And why does she have to be from Thailand? I just couldn't get it out of my mind. And then I started losing my blood flow. I excused myself to go to the shower. I asked her to join me and she declined and seemed once again to be hiding her pussy. When I stepped back out from the shower, I asked her. Were you ever a man? No no she replied. We went back and forth a few times like this. I assured her I would love to know if she was and just want to find out more, but she denied denied denied. I told her about what happened to me to elicit sympathy, once again tell her that I'm totally happy with leaving the way things are but if she can tell me the truth I'd be even more happy. No, she said again that she was never a man. So I apologized, I told her it had nothing to do with her at all and was just about what happened to me and now my brain is all confused and messed up. I would try to relax. We slowly got back into things, she started back down on the BBBJ, and then my brain started thinking about all the same things again. And after a minute I just told her I was done. Sorry. It's not you it's me.

As I left, I still felt 50/50. As much as she denied it, I felt there was still a good chance she either just has a rule to always deny it for self-preservation, or perhaps she's had to psychologically believe and forget her past. On the other hand, it's entirely possible she was telling the truth. There were no smoking guns here. Her hands weren't slender and delicate, but neither were they extreme man hands. Her elbows didn't seem to bend quite enough, her neck maybe had a bulge or maybe not. Nothing definitive and in fact none of these tests are definitive. One funny thing was that at one point I literally opened her legs to see her pussy, which she had been very reluctant to allow me to do (we were just sitting so it wasn't a natural move) and she let me see everything for about 1. 5 seconds. It looked a little off to me, but then not really. The strangest thing about it all imo was that she just didn't want me to see it. And then she covered herself back up and told me she just thinks it is weird and that she doesn't think that part of women's bodies are very attractive. Ok, the words weren't super convincing but her manner and delivery was convincing enough. She did seem like she could legitimately be a woman who felt that way.

In any case, the bottom line is that I couldn't help myself at all. Even if she was the most gorgeous woman in the world, I feel like I would've stared at certain aspects long enough to wonder. Cause being TS definitely doesn't make you less attractive. I'm just not sure how I'll get over this! I may just need to convince my brain that a post-op TS is in fact no different than a woman from birth in terms of pleasuring myself. I don't know. Help!!

Now for a brief review of the items I didn't mention:

Uki was in fact herself in the images / videos shared. She's a little less attractive than the images, imo, but only slightly. I'd give her a 6. 5. Probably mid-30's, which is on the old side compared to all the girls I've met but certainly not old looking. But she's got a little bit of pudge around the stomach. Her ad is 5 k for one hour and 2 shots, 2. 5 k for 30 minutes, 2 k for 20 minutes. One of the main factors in choosing to see her was that she was the most economical ad I'd seen online (I took the 30 min option) I felt slightly bad for her not only because of my questioning her gender, but also because as we chatted I found out that she had come with an agency to work in Taichung but it was not good work. They had sorta misrepresented how much she'd have to work and she did not like it there at all. In her words she "escaped" to Taipei and now was managing herself. So anyway, to end this long, twisted post of mine, I'll just say if anyone wants to see her she's good looking for middle-agish, her BBBJ was good, her demeanor was kind and sweet, and please let me know if you think she's post-op!![/QUOTE]It is easy to say "so what," and take it in stride if another guy gets hoodwinked into a session with a retooled / overhauled dude.

I actually laughed my ass off when it happened to my cousin, and also to another very good buddy of mine. I kidded him for years to make him relive it. And, I enjoyed watching him squirm.

But, we are friends for many decades, and have been lovingly kidding each other ever since high school. It is all in good fun, and we always have each others' backs.

If it happened to me, I probably wouldn't tell him, but if he found out, he would have the last laugh, and ridicule me to my last breath.

But, if your psyche is vehemently against an intimate relationship with other than a natural-born female, and to be sold an imposter, a post-op, that is a lie and deceit of the highest order. It really is unforgivable.

I know, after my near-miss, I was sickened for days, especially with the thought of their castration.

On the other hand, on Kangding, I met a strikingly innocent, extremely feminine young Thai. I found her gorgeous. But, there "seemed" to be an ever so faint remnants or slight shadow of a mustache. I let it go. Clothes off, flat as a board. Strike two.

It did cross my mind, "possibly, maybe, what if?

But, her extreme femininity, bashfulness, sweet, passive behavior and flowing, bamboo-like, delicate stature, soft, pliable body, allayed most of my concerns.

It was a very tender, intimate encounter with true human understanding and compassion. Much unlike some of those wild, lustful, raucous, lecherous, lewd, exciting sessions that the area is known for.

But, there is a doubt in that session, as opposed to the hundreds of sessions with no doubt whatsoever.

But, that being said, I hope and pray that she was a woman, because it was a very meaningful, soul-touching encounter, expressed by both of us.

However, if I did find out for sure that she was a post-op, I would not repeat, because of my conditioning, even though it was extremely satisfying. And, if I see her again, most of my time will be spent giving her a complete physician's yearly physical examination, to get to the bottom of this.

I hope that doesn't make me a bigot. But, in modern society, it probably does. I just prefer to say that it is a matter of choice, in the same way that I prefer Asian women wholeheartedly over all other women from other nations. It is just a matter of choice.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2817944]
But, that being said, I hope and pray that she was a woman, because it was a very meaningful, soul-touching encounter, expressed by both of us.

However, if I did find out for sure that she was a post-op, I would not repeat, because of my conditioning, even though it was extremely satisfying. And, if I see her again, most of my time will be spent giving her a complete physician's yearly physical examination, to get to the bottom of this.

I hope that doesn't make me a bigot. But, in modern society, it probably does. I just prefer to say that it is a matter of choice, in the same way that I prefer Asian women wholeheartedly over all other women from other nations. It is just a matter of choice.[/QUOTE]

She was probably a she. Even if she was flat as a board if she had correct downstairs equipment, odds are she was real. It doesn't seem likely someone would do downstairs operation before top. I'm just considering cost and permanency.

Also don’t think that makes you a bigot. We all have different taste and different turn ons and turn offs. I have a friend that doesn’t like blondes because his mom is blonde.

Thanks to everyone for the comments. Definitely makes me feel better. I'm excited to go see babygirl soon. I feel confident that it should go well.

[QUOTE=Tefnx;2817870]You could ask to see her Thai ID. It would star Mr / mr / miss even if changed as their according to their gender at their birth.[/QUOTE]Oh wow is this 100% fail proof? I guess it's a reasonable enough request. Would it say Mr / miss or is it something else in the Thai script?

[QUOTE=Pickley;2817941]I'm going to be visiting Taiwan soon and will be going to beitou to enjoy the hot springs. Any action out there? I hear year and years ago it was a hot spot but today it's all gone. If nothing else I'm going to try real hard on the dating apps. Would be so cool to enjoy a private hot tub with an equally hot companion.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you missed the Beitou scene by quite a few years. That was during the Japanese occupation, until maybe the very early 80's. During that time, there were female assisted bathhouses.

The natural mineral spas in Taiwan are unrivaled. I only scratched the surface. Some are normal, fairly hot, hovering 42 degrees Celsius for the general public. Other places attract the hardcore devils who can tolerate 47 C, 48 C. Can be torturous. I have had to endure the worst with those local devils because I didn't want to give them the gloating pleasure of watching me scream and jump out. So, I have endured the excruciating heat under the tribal head's scrutiny and emerged with my dignity, as I receive a stoic nod from the chief.

But, those are public baths. They are cheap. A book of ten visits for about 1200 NT. They usually have two pools, one pretty hot for the experts and another, sort of lukewarm — not really— comparatively speaking. Some have constant thermometer readings. Some don't. Most are segregated men from women and all nude. There is a public bath outside with many varying degrees pools in Xinbeitou where it is coed and you wear bathing suits, but the bathing suit is a non-Speedo type, but some people violate the rule without consequence. A young girl in a bikini could give you a spontaneous erection, and not wanting to walk around with a boner, you are forced to continue cooking in the hot sulfur water until the excitement drains.

It gets crowded. It is cheap. About 60 NT. And, their hottest pool is very hot, and they have cooler ones, down to a cold dip.

For myself, a cold dip pool is almost mandatory. A few don't have it. If no cold pool, you must drink much water, because in an extremely hot pool, you sweat profusely, but don't notice how much water you are actually losing. Too hot for too long, dehydration, heart palpitations. It is not uncommon to see someone faint there, lose consciousness. Once a guy stopped breathing. I had to use my YMCA skills maneuvers to revive him. A cold dip can restore your balance almost instantly. Some don't like hot to cold immediately because they say it upsets the heart rhythm. But, I have had no problem.

Hotels in Xinbeitou have private room sulfur baths, but more expensive. Xinbeitou boasts a famous Japanese style spa called Long Nice Hot Spring. I went very often. But, no longer, because it has no cold recovery pool and only 3 showers. It is enclosed and follows the rarer Japanese traditional spas demeanor. But, the water there is top quality. Other places recirculate water. Not considered authentic. And, this particular spa boasts that Emperor Hirohito took his bath there. For myself, this place is more akin to sitting zazen.

Some rarer spas are off the radar. The savvy congregants understand the pipes and valves and play around with them to suit their tastes and comfort level. I know of one place that I now avoid like the plague at certain times, when the local BIG KAHUNA comes to take his nightly bath. When he enters the building, everybody runs. He can tolerate about 50 C. He is inhuman. He remains unaffected. His skin is deep dark brown with red highlights. Probably close to 80's.

Some of these guys are really strong and wiry. They have been bathing / stretching / exercising / kungfu / taichi / qigong, all their lives.

Yangmingshan has a plethora of enjoyable spas along Xingyi Road 1, 2, 3 and 4. All are basically good. All easy access by public buses. All around 120 NT if you buy a book of ten.

Just walk in and everybody is helpful in these big spas with signs. Some have restaurants attached. Some have a packaged deal, dinner and bath.

Other spas are damned good up there and no frills and free. Some guys also hang out naked by the river up there, and piped in spa waters and made their own free makeshift baths, make fires and roast potatoes. But, a little more dangerous. You must violate no trespassing signs and could pay a fine.

Yangmingshan offers good bathing and it is cooler up in the mountains with all the green trees.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2817971]Thanks to everyone for the comments. Definitely makes me feel better. I'm excited to go see babygirl soon. I feel confident that it should go well.

Oh wow is this 100% fail proof? I guess it's a reasonable enough request. Would it say Mr / miss or is it something else in the Thai script?[/QUOTE]

Official ID is also the best way in PH too and I suspect best method anywhere. Not employment or school ID. Needs to be official ID like drivers license, state ID or passport. I'm not sure what Thai ID looks like but I suggest googling it to make sure you understand how to read it. Googling it will also help you determine if it's a fake ID.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2817971]Thanks to everyone for the comments. Definitely makes me feel better. I'm excited to go see babygirl soon. I feel confident that it should go well.

Oh wow is this 100% fail proof? I guess it's a reasonable enough request. Would it say Mr / miss or is it something else in the Thai script?[/QUOTE]Yes it has it in Thai script of course but there's it is also in English and it will have Mr / Mrs / Miss and their name in English alphabet.

Why I mention is because:

1) Obv Thailand has one of the highest amount of LB.

2) In Thai hotels its 90% more or less required to register / leave behind their ID when you take them to the hotel. I know in other parts of the world once you have checked in you could just take your guest upstairs since you have a elevator / room card, but in Thai its more or less enforced to register / leave behind ID so you can almost always see their ID.

Thus its very established to see whether its a LB post op or not as it will not change their gender on card.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2817975]Yeah, you missed the Beitou scene by quite a few years. That was during the Japanese occupation, until maybe the very early 80's. During that time, there were female assisted bathhouses.

The natural mineral spas in Taiwan are unrivaled.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the extremely helpful advice. Your resuscitation story is awesome. You were a real hero that day. If I am ever put in that situation the only thing I can think of using is Stayin' Alive from The Office LOL.

Long Nai Tang is my must go to hot springs. I think that's the Japanese emperor one. I'm staying close by at a resort and have a package from agoda which includes a private hot spring session and some kind of "complimentary tickets" whatever that means. I think it may be the book you're talking about. It was a good deal to add the package (only $14, which is cheaper than price for public hot spring access). I just hope use of the resort's public hot spring is included; if not maybe I can trade private for public access. Coolest thing is the room also has a hot spring style tub. This part of my trip is going to be a real treat for myself.

Also planning to visit beitou park. Not sure if it's some kind of hot springs park or regular park but it's close by. I've only been to a man made hot springs once. Am looking forward to trying the green sulfur at Long Nai Tang and white sulfur. I've heard Taiwan and Japan are the only two places that have them. Hopefully I can stand the heat. I did go to Caesar's world last time I was in Taiwan and was able to stand the hot tub there. I can't do Yang Ming Shan this time but it's on my agenda to hike next time. And the assisted baths you mentioned reminds me of soap lands haha. I've never been to one in Japan but I did try it in China before the yellow sweep.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2817746]I need a little circle of support from my fellow hobbyists. Hopefully I can snap out of this ASAP. After learning about zinzin (who I met) and Karina (who I didn't meet but was completely fooled by the ad) I have started to become slightly obsessed with the idea of TS / TG. Not that I want it, but that I'm constantly thinking about it. In the last couple days I've conversed with a ton more visiting ladies and kinda narrowed down a short list of 7 or 8 that I'd like to try to meet in the next week (No I'm not going to meet them all but I just organize them in my mind and then kinda feel out who I'm most interested in when I have the availability) Anyway, ever single one of them that I've talked to has amazing photos, but then I just stare at them and slowly imagine them morph into a man. I spent about 30 minutes tonight reading an in depth article on how to spot a TS. It's consuming all of my brain function that I have set aside for the hobby. (Thankfully not really obsessing over it in my civilian life. Yet).

Anyway, tonight I went out on a quick outing to meet Uki from Massage Republic. She was fine looking, not amazing but perfectly acceptable. I was excited as we took the elevator up to her room. But then I noticed that I was more nervous than excited as we began our session. Something was off with me. And I was annoyed that she turned off two of the three lights in the room. It wasn't too dark, but my head started questioning. Why does it need to be harder to see. And why does it seem like she's turned in such a way to hide her pussy from me. While receiving BBBJ I started staring at her arms / elbows (there's an elbow test for men vs women), I stared at her neck (is that an adam's apple? I stared at her sorta man hands. Her breasts were fake, which I have zero problem with normally but then. Well, why are they fake? And why does she have to be from Thailand? I just couldn't get it out of my mind. And then I started losing my blood flow. I excused myself to go to the shower. I asked her to join me and she declined and seemed once again to be hiding her pussy. When I stepped back out from the shower, I asked her. Were you ever a man? No no she replied. We went back and forth a few times like this. I assured her I would love to know if she was and just want to find out more, but she denied denied denied. I told her about what happened to me to elicit sympathy, once again tell her that I'm totally happy with leaving the way things are but if she can tell me the truth I'd be even more happy. No, she said again that she was never a man. So I apologized, I told her it had nothing to do with her at all and was just about what happened to me and now my brain is all confused and messed up. I would try to relax. We slowly got back into things, she started back down on the BBBJ, and then my brain started thinking about all the same things again. And after a minute I just told her I was done. Sorry. It's not you it's me.

As I left, I still felt 50/50. As much as she denied it, I felt there was still a good chance she either just has a rule to always deny it for self-preservation, or perhaps she's had to psychologically believe and forget her past. On the other hand, it's entirely possible she was telling the truth. There were no smoking guns here. Her hands weren't slender and delicate, but neither were they extreme man hands. Her elbows didn't seem to bend quite enough, her neck maybe had a bulge or maybe not. Nothing definitive and in fact none of these tests are definitive. One funny thing was that at one point I literally opened her legs to see her pussy, which she had been very reluctant to allow me to do (we were just sitting so it wasn't a natural move) and she let me see everything for about 1. 5 seconds. It looked a little off to me, but then not really. The strangest thing about it all imo was that she just didn't want me to see it. And then she covered herself back up and told me she just thinks it is weird and that she doesn't think that part of women's bodies are very attractive. Ok, the words weren't super convincing but her manner and delivery was convincing enough. She did seem like she could legitimately be a woman who felt that way.

In any case, the bottom line is that I couldn't help myself at all. Even if she was the most gorgeous woman in the world, I feel like I would've stared at certain aspects long enough to wonder. Cause being TS definitely doesn't make you less attractive. I'm just not sure how I'll get over this! I may just need to convince my brain that a post-op TS is in fact no different than a woman from birth in terms of pleasuring myself. I don't know. Help!!

Now for a brief review of the items I didn't mention:

Uki was in fact herself in the images / videos shared. She's a little less attractive than the images, imo, but only slightly. I'd give her a 6. 5. Probably mid-30's, which is on the old side compared to all the girls I've met but certainly not old looking. But she's got a little bit of pudge around the stomach. Her ad is 5 k for one hour and 2 shots, 2. 5 k for 30 minutes, 2 k for 20 minutes. One of the main factors in choosing to see her was that she was the most economical ad I'd seen online (I took the 30 min option) I felt slightly bad for her not only because of my questioning her gender, but also because as we chatted I found out that she had come with an agency to work in Taichung but it was not good work. They had sorta misrepresented how much she'd have to work and she did not like it there at all. In her words she "escaped" to Taipei and now was managing herself. So anyway, to end this long, twisted post of mine, I'll just say if anyone wants to see her she's good looking for middle-agish, her BBBJ was good, her demeanor was kind and sweet, and please let me know if you think she's post-op!![/QUOTE]Some of you elders might remember "LOLA" by The Kinks. Not a song about a post-op, but how a guy in a bar fell for a guy dressed like a woman. Whenever this topic arises, it seems to call up this song in my memory, and the shock of first hearing it when I was so young, at a time when these topics were outlandishly taboo, and something almost never spoken about except in dark rooms.

[URL]https://youtu.be/GD5-JO-muYI[/URL]

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2817746]I need a little circle of support from my fellow hobbyists.....

Anyway, tonight I went out on a quick outing to meet Uki from Massage Republic. She was fine looking, not amazing but perfectly acceptable. I was excited as we took the elevator up to her room. But then I noticed that I was more nervous than excited as we began our session. Something was off with me. And I was annoyed that she turned off two of the three lights in the room. It wasn't too dark, but my head started questioning. Why does it need to be harder to see. And why does it seem like she's turned in such a way to hide her pussy from me. While receiving BBBJ I started staring at her arms / elbows (there's an elbow test for men vs women), I stared at her neck (is that an adam's apple? I stared at her sorta man hands. Her breasts were fake, which I have zero problem with normally but then. Well, why are they fake? And why does she have to be from Thailand? I just couldn't get it out of my mind. And then I started losing my blood flow. [/QUOTE]Sorry to hear your story.

I have not been in Taiwan for half a year now. Most of the escorts I saw are no longer there. I can only find 5 who are currently listed.

One is Helen and she is widely reviewed. Today, I am going to give a review on Nina because I am pretty sure she is a "She".

She is listed as Best GFE in MR and Nina in Euro. Her pictures are too good to be true. Yes, it is a bait and switch. But she is not bad looking. She is definitely better looking than Uki.

She has narrow waist and big ass. Pounding her from behind feels amazing. She is kind and mild mannered. I recommend her.

Another lady I am pretty sure is all woman.

Mia in MR is another lady I saw. Her pictures are accurate. But she in person looks slightly worse than her pictures. She might be in her 30's. (I don't really remember the details, it was a year ago).

She looks Hispanic. But she is Russian. The reason I know is because she called somebody before and after our session. It could be her handler. She was definitely not speaking Spanish. It sounds like Russian. I asked her about it and she said that she is Russian and told me where in Russia she comes from.

Her performance is fine. She seems very professional. She behaved as she is in this business for a long time.

But I never went back again for two reasons. The first reason is that I don't like her look too much (though I think others may find here attractive). The second reason （and the most important one) is that she screams in pure sexual ecstasy whenever I touch her. I didn't like that at all. I know I am not Tom Cruise.

I didn't go back for a second time. But I can definitely see others might find her looks exotic and her performance erotic.

I saw this woman quite a few times. I am pretty sure she doesn't call her Zoe back then. It had been more than one year and I could be mistaken. But I am fairly certain Zoe in MR is the woman I saw.

Zoe is all "woman".

She is very chubby. But her face is gorgeous. She is mild and easy going. I don't like chubby girls at all and she is more than chubby. For some reason, I just find her amazing and intoxicating.

I highly recommend her. But be warned, she is very chubby.

By the way, I would not give a review to the fifth escort currently in Taiwan. I had the best time with her. But there might be a slight chance she is not a pure "she".

[QUOTE=NigtRider;2816665]This is actually a reply to Filler17.

Not quite sure if it is the same Karina. But HughJass said that she had so many customers that it was not a good experience.[/QUOTE]I think he reported on "Katrina" but can't find it now though I remember what you're talking about.

I contacted her yesterday and, of course, she was available but, of course, leaving the following day. I said that I would let her know an hour in advance and, when I did, she didn't respond for four hours. When she did, it was "come immediately". I said that it wasn't possible until evening and she started sending message after message after message saying I had contacted her every day but never came (untrue) and that I was a "liar" though it took her four messages to be able to spell it correctly. She said that either I come immediately or she is going to block me and, considering her warm personality and apparently stable mental condition, I blocked her before she could keep going in her tirade.

So. Probably better to avoid.

Saw that there were recently a couple new / returning faces to Taipei on MR and Eurogirls, was wondering if anyone had any experience with any of them? Specifically, Calista, Marie, and Kaori. Wondering if you could if they were post-ops or not and was their service good?

Also, just recently realized that all the girls set their prices high on purpose and you're supposed to try and haggle it down. Almost blew 15 k on post-op Karina last time before I realized that she was post-op and cancelled. I guess that's what happens when you're too horny and starting thinking with your lower head instead of the upper one. From what I could tell, most of the girls are willing go to the 5 k range, and getting any lower than that will be up to you trying to persuade them without offending them.

Quick question for Amazake, what are the prices right now for the girls in the Xichang / Diamond building alley? I've walked through a couple of times but never pulled the trigger yet. Asked 1 girl in the Xichang night market street and she quoted me at 1. 6 k. Haven't asked the girls behind the diamond building yet. Also would it be cheaper for me since I can pass as a local?

[QUOTE=Exile;2818872]I think he reported on "Katrina" but can't find it now though I remember what you're talking about.

I contacted her yesterday and, of course, she was available but, of course, leaving the following day. I said that I would let her know an hour in advance and, when I did, she didn't respond for four hours. When she did, it was "come immediately". I said that it wasn't possible until evening and she started sending message after message after message saying I had contacted her every day but never came (untrue) and that I was a "liar" though it took her four messages to be able to spell it correctly. She said that either I come immediately or she is going to block me and, considering her warm personality and apparently stable mental condition, I blocked her before she could keep going in her tirade.

So. Probably better to avoid.[/QUOTE]Filler and hughjass were both discussing "karina" and quite possible the same one. Anyway, were you talking to Karina or Katrina?

[QUOTE=Filler17;2818944]Saw that there were recently a couple new / returning faces to Taipei on MR and Eurogirls, was wondering if anyone had any experience with any of them? Specifically, Calista, Marie, and Kaori. Wondering if you could if they were post-ops or not and was their service good?[/QUOTE]There's a chance I'll go see Calista this week. Marie was intriguing but I've decided I'm not going to see anyone above 6 k so she's a no go. Man. You're taking me down the post-op rabbit hole again. Ugh. Could Marie and Calista really be post? Ack. I wouldn't have guessed it. Kaori though does give me that potential vibe.

And wow, I'm a total newb (well about 1.5 months into this scene) and I am just dumbfounded by the amount of visiting talent passing through Taipei. It seems like there's a handful of new ads every single day, and pretty much all are legit.

Alright so after posting about my debacle with Uki just four days ago, I've since had the pleasure of seeing Pat and Jeni together. Their ads were on MR and I can't remember pat's name in her ad but I'm quite certain it wasn't pat. Jeni went by Amily from Singapore. Their ad text was identically butchered English leading me to believe they were being managed. So I asked for a duo. We almost didn't meet due to a schedule issue on my part as well as some hesitation due to my doubts about who they were, but boy am I glad I ended up going. Cause their photos were real and shockingly, they are independent. So the photos, while legit, are certainly touched up a lot. But boy was it nice to find some authentic, independent gals. Another nice thing is that they were both dolled up like this was important to them. For me, Pat was a solid 7.5 and Jeni was maybe an 8.5, perhaps even a 9! She was the first in Taiwan to break my 8 rating barrier. Really really gorgeous but also quite possible it's a facade of well appointed makeup. In either case, the body in the photos was 100% legit. She is an all-time fav. She even gave me her personal LINE, which was a little odd since I had been messaging directly with her on LINE. I guess she uses one for business and one for personal? Total damage was 8 k for both of them (they're 5 k each alone) for 1 shot 1 hour, although I left after about 45 minutes. They were both rockstars in the bed, although one negative was CBJ only. I plan to repeat with Jeni. She sent an unprompted message to me today saying she was heading to the airport. And then also let me know she'd be back in August.

Adiana's ad title is "Cassy Wet Pussy" on MR. She has a major presence on tiktok and IG which I enjoy because then I get to see a bit of their personality and looks leading up to the affair. However, her price is 8 k and I've come to learn that 6 k is my cap given how much amazing talent there already is at 6 k and below. Anyway I asked Adiana if she'd meet for 6 k and she said yes. So off I went. There were a few bumps along the way. Right before I arrived she asked me to pick up covers so I had to make a pit stop at a very busy 7/11. I also decided to grab beers cause why not? Went to her room, she's very attractive and also presenting very nicely which I very much appreciate now. Asked me to shower by myself which I don't love. I thought she looked pretty much like her online presence but a little bit less perfect and polished than those filtered images. Her skills were great, nice pussy for DATY which is somewhat unusual for me to do but I felt in the mood with her. I was getting ready to head out at about the 45 minute mark when she decided to look in the donation envelope that I had placed on her desk. She asked how much was there and I said 6, which surprised her because she expected her full 8. I responded, very surprised, didn't you tell me 6 was fine? And she clearly wasn't pleased but wasn't rude about it either and said she must have misunderstood. I checked my messages later and I had asked if she would see me for "6 k" and I'm guessing she thought that was "60" as in 60 minutes. Anyway, I guess she typically sticks to 8 k? She said she comes to Taipei often, which is corroborated by the social media presence. I was plenty happy with my experience and her attractiveness, but I do not plan to repeat.

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[QUOTE=AbcGators;2819055]Alright so after posting about my debacle with Uki just four days ago, I've since had the pleasure of seeing Pat and Jeni together. Their ads were on MR and I can't remember pat's name in her ad but I'm quite certain it wasn't pat. Jeni went by Amily from Singapore. Their ad text was identically butchered English leading me to believe they were being managed. So I asked for a duo. We almost didn't meet due to a schedule issue on my part as well as some hesitation due to my doubts about who they were, but boy am I glad I ended up going. Cause their photos were real and shockingly, they are independent. So the photos, while legit, are certainly touched up a lot. But boy was it nice to find some authentic, independent gals. Another nice thing is that they were both dolled up like this was important to them. For me, Pat was a solid 7.5 and Jeni was maybe an 8.5, perhaps even a 9! She was the first in Taiwan to break my 8 rating barrier. Really really gorgeous but also quite possible it's a facade of well appointed makeup. In either case, the body in the photos was 100% legit. She is an all-time fav. She even gave me her personal LINE, which was a little odd since I had been messaging directly with her on LINE. I guess she uses one for business and one for personal? Total damage was 8 k for both of them (they're 5 k each alone) for 1 shot 1 hour, although I left after about 45 minutes. They were both rockstars in the bed, although one negative was CBJ only. I plan to repeat with Jeni. She sent an unprompted message to me today saying she was heading to the airport. And then also let me know she'd be back in August.

[/QUOTE]I saw both of them on MR, and was interested in Amily / Jeni but didn't pull the trigger since it seemed a little sketchy to me. Glad that everything turned out well though and will probably contact her next time she comes back.

With all the gorgeous civilian ladies in Taiwan walking the streets in their short-shorts, scantily dressed, along with the higher temperatures as of late, I was nearing a state of "spontaneous human combustion. ".

So, again, the Longshan Temple vicinity. It was early afternoon, and nothing worth having, even remotely comparable to the parade of "unattainable" female flesh, feigning innocence, with "a whole lotta shakin' goin' on," in the streets, market places, buses and MRT.

But, her smiling pouting cute face, enthusiasm, and delicious body, stuffed into worn-out denim shorts, three sizes too small, reeled me in, hook, line and sinker, in less than an instant. She can really flash a smile, too. I knew her mood was off, though, when she frowned, when I irresistibly started pawing her ass in the hallway, leading to her room.

She doesn't like her feathers ruffled.

Anyway, I know her well. And, the last time we sessioned, I vowed never to see her again. But, in the vulnerable state that I was in, that old adage, "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me," did not register.

Actually, I do like her very much, but her pace is just too restrictive, and fast for my tendencies. And, I know that these are fast sessions by their very nature, but with the right girl, you can stretch the limits. But, not with this particular late 30's Viet.

She doesn't want to be handled too much, and would like to emerge from the encounter with the least amount of effort. Like a union employee, on the clock.

And therein lies the rub. Our philosophies are polar opposites.

All that being said, after seeing her around five times, I tailor my game to hers. It takes lot of patience, mixed with humor and persistence. I can actually make her genuinely smile and laugh, albeit momentarily, to relieve her "quick-to-get-started- and-finished-attitude. " But, it is never easy.

I did get her to have a couple of climaxes which relaxed her. But, she is very clean and felt the need to clean herself, midway, and the bed, after she sprayed some estrogen.

And, that is a glorious sight to watch her get up and tissue herself clean, because she definitely has a "bangin' body. " Her body is extremely enticing. A veritable playground of pleasurable body parts.

There is a language barrier, which is a shame. Because, I would love to point out her faults and how we could transform our time together, so she could keep me as a steady customer.

I just love her looks. And, after seeing her a number of times, there is that warm familiarity. She has a beautiful well-kept body. Had some surgery. And, she doesn't like her fruits handled too much, to maintain their shelf-life and avoid bruising. It's a Catch 22, because her body has so many curves and pleasure zones that are begging to be heavily optimized, exploited, tampered with and enjoyed, yet she only allows the lightest of touches. Frustrating!

But, oddly enough, in her height of passion, she seemed fond of pinching me with some startling stinging force. I did like it very much. But, had I pinched her with a similar force, she probably would have ended the session abruptly.

I do enjoy this spirited little queen, despite all her downsides and foibles. And, her attraction that flickers brightly in those dark, dank alleys, surely will overcome me in the future once again, despite my problems with her. Because she has plenty of sweetness stored in her hive, but is highly guarded and reticent to sharing too much of her honey. Maybe she is wise. She is in it for the long haul, and won't burn out early.

She has that mindset that her job is to look really good, and to quite efficiently, and as quickly as possible, provide a kind of emergency relief for a man. No more; no less.

And, that would be okay if men were like the huge population of monkeys I see as I trek in Yangmingshan. They are all so nervous, overheated and fast in their copulations. I can't help but observe that the act is over in about 10 seconds.

She seems to forget or disdain savoring every movement for the 20 minute duration. And, when done right, could transport one into a different realm where one is unaware of time.

But, she is very popular and well-liked for her smile and attractiveness, and her price is below market at 1300, and she is spic & span clean, marvelously clean, manicured and well-maintained. And, those are very attractive features.

My attempts at retraining her thus far have been futile. In fact, she got a bit worse. Doesn't know the meaning of a soft, long embrace. However, she seems to enjoy a good pounding, as long as other body parts are not engaged in contact too much. She is like a fast race car using high octane fuel, that easily overheats. But, as with a shiny race car, she does look good for the time she is racing.

She has no expertise, nor desire to celebrate the act between a man and a woman, giving attention to the beautiful myriad nuances of the play, like my dependable older "Love Goddess" in the park across from Longshan that was not available today. That lady is in a league of her own. She loves to serve in the bedroom, and if you give her a small gift of nice fruit or vegetables, tell her that she is beautiful and you love her, she will take you lovingly on a journey of honest sincere love and pleasure.

Of course, money is the only reason for any of them giving their lives to these streets. But, some still cherish being loved, and having reverence for this sacred, beautiful act, where Longshan Temple is at its very heart. Some of these women, like my "old faithful," can be seen before her shift starts, with fruit in hand, praying at the side temple by the Xichang Market. She has taken me with her there to bow our heads in silence before walking back to her apartment for an enchanting interplay.

Knowing their habits and personalities, will help us adjust and find fulfillment in these sessions.

But, honestly speaking. I still spent time with a good looking lady. In no way was I bummed out. But, I did have to beg and tussle too much to be granted privileges.

[QUOTE=Filler17;2818944]Saw that there were recently a couple new / returning faces to Taipei on MR and Eurogirls, was wondering if anyone had any experience with any of them? Specifically, Calista, Marie, and Kaori. Wondering if you could if they were post-ops or not and was their service good?

Also, just recently realized that all the girls set their prices high on purpose and you're supposed to try and haggle it down. Almost blew 15 k on post-op Karina last time before I realized that she was post-op and cancelled. I guess that's what happens when you're too horny and starting thinking with your lower head instead of the upper one. From what I could tell, most of the girls are willing go to the 5 k range, and getting any lower than that will be up to you trying to persuade them without offending them.

Quick question for Amazake, what are the prices right now for the girls in the Xichang / Diamond building alley? I've walked through a couple of times but never pulled the trigger yet. Asked 1 girl in the Xichang night market street and she quoted me at 1. 6 k. Haven't asked the girls behind the diamond building yet. Also would it be cheaper for me since I can pass as a local?[/QUOTE]The default price is 1. 5. Some try for more, but usually will easily back down. They are happy with 1. 5. However, girls there can be gotten for less. And, they are not necessarily substandard. I have gotten 1 k and left very satisfied with the service of a non-20's, but not an auntie, either. So, prices vary somewhat, but I have never gone higher than 1. 5. Sometimes, a runway model will refuse the 1. 5 because she is a standout, and by comparison she warrants the raise, but I won't pay it. Sometimes it is a slow night, and she will reconsider very quickly, rather than allowing her more humble friend to strike oil.

Trying another of the new names passing through Taipei, Olivia Mae. Again a hit rather than a miss. She was very like her photos so if you like her profile you'll be unlikely to be disappointed. She was a genuine girl and overall very good experience. Was a relaxed meeting. Quoted 8 k but agreed later to drop to 6 k for a full hour, which seems unusual in Taipei, and she may have agreed as I was in the neighbourhood.

[QUOTE=RonBurgundy;2819250]Trying another of the new names passing through Taipei, Olivia Mae. Again a hit rather than a miss. She was very like her photos so if you like her profile you'll be unlikely to be disappointed. She was a genuine girl and overall very good experience. Was a relaxed meeting. Quoted 8 k but agreed later to drop to 6 k for a full hour, which seems unusual in Taipei, and she may have agreed as I was in the neighbourhood.[/QUOTE]Oyyy. You and I have the same taste. I was very very intrigued by Miss Olivia and was a little disappointed when she quoted 8 k due to my self-imposed 6 k max. Anyway, I had been considering asking her for 6 k so this gives me more encouragement. I may pull the trigger one of these nights. It'll either be her or Calista, whom Filler has asked about.

[QUOTE=NigtRider;2818833]I saw this woman quite a few times. I am pretty sure she doesn't call her Zoe back then. It had been more than one year and I could be mistaken. But I am fairly certain Zoe in MR is the woman I saw.[/QUOTE]Thank you for all your reviews. Really appreciate it. Helen seems to be a unanimous recommendation and I almost set up an appt with her, but then I recently decided to limit myself to 6 k so as long as I have this self-imposed limit, Helen will be but a fairytale. We'll see how long that lasts. Also, she continues to slip down the list as visiting girls take priority. And man, there are just so many visitors! Based on your reviews I'll pass on Zoe and Mia (although Mia does look nice! I'd consider Nina except that I just now realized I've reached out to her 3 times with nary a response.

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Hey fellow mongers.

I'll be visiting Taipei for a few days starting Thursday. I wanted to see if anyone has a provider for nuru or Thai soapy massage in the Taipei area. I can only play in the evening as I have family obligations during the day. Any help would be greatly appreciated and if you are ever mongering in Texas or northern Mexico, let me know how I can help.

I used to browse and select girls from the tea house forums like rose 141, avmm etc. Lately all 4 of them are not working sine 4-5 days I believe.

Any updates on them? Is that government crack down?

[QUOTE=Mayurp;2820214]I used to browse and select girls from the tea house forums like rose 141, avmm etc. Lately all 4 of them are not working sine 4-5 days I believe.

Any updates on them? Is that government crack down?[/QUOTE]TIL there are tea house forums.

Firstly, I'll say thank you to this forum. I wish I had discovered you all much sooner. I've tried to give back in my own way. And I'm saying this because, although this is certainly not a goodbye, I am feeling grateful. Also, as of this moment I am planning to slow wayyyyyyy down. I've been going extremely hard the past month and, well, this was a once in a lifetime type of month. But as May draws to a close, I will end this chapter and the next chapter will be back to normal life, with a very occasional dalliance.

Olivia Mae. Mixed Latina / Asian although she could pass for full Latina I think. Photos are accurate. She's incredibly beautiful. Body, face, all of it. I asked for 6 k (down from her requested 8 k) and she immediately agreed. She went a little MIA in the 15 minutes before we were supposed to meet. I made my way to her incall anyway and then got nervous hanging around with radio silence. Luckily she finally messaged back asking for me to give her just a few more minutes. Our time was very nice, not exactly a rushed session overall however I would have enjoyed a longer build up and instead she got things started quickly. Also made me shower on my own, which is unfortunately becoming quite a theme. Overall was quite happy (BBBJ, covered everything else) but afterwards (it was just past midnight) we chatted for a bit and it was quite apparent to me that she was preparing herself for another meeting. Which is totally fine with me generally speaking, but IF I was sandwiched between two others then that's not exactly ideal. And like I said, I wasn't exactly rushed but I did leave after about 45 minutes out of the full hour because I had the feeling she needed to get ready again. Overall liked her and would probably repeat if the opportunity presented itself.

Jonacas (babygirl) - Again, accurate photos. Very beautiful Filipina. A little bit bigger, tougher, stronger than sorta the tiny, sweet thing that was depicted on social media, but no less attractive at all. 5 k damage. I managed to chat with her a little bit and hold off getting started too quickly. She was very open and we had quite a good rapport. She made me think that she likes me, which I guess is a great quality Or maybe she did actually like me She also really made it believable that she was enjoying our time together. I dunno, it was probably all an incredible act, but I appreciated it. She even kept me from finishing a couple times, as if she wanted to keep it going longer. Anyway she is still a sweet thing, BBBJ was nice (actually she tried to do CBJ but after I asked her not to she obliged), but had to shower alone again. She's at the top of my list and I absolutely do plan to see her again.

Calista. Mixed Latina / Asian. Well, just when I thought perhaps my psychological issues were behind me, they reared their ugly head again the moment I saw Calista. I must emphasize right here that I am extremely confident that my uncertainty was misguided. I do not think any of you gents, particularly Filler who asked about her, have anything to worry about in that regard at all. But for some reason, a few things the moment I walked into the wrong gave me some PTSD. Anyway, everything was fine. BBBJ was good. Damage was 5 k and it was worth it cause she was incredibly patient with me, working through my initial struggle. We actually spoke very candidly about my issue and it's because of this discussion that I feel so strongly that she's "authentic. " A few of things the she told me I can't imagine someone saying if they weren't. One incredibly surprising fact. Apparently she's twin sisters with Olivia Mae. I still don't quite believe it. I can see them being sisters but not twins. Their faces just aren't the same. And their skin tone / complexion is quite different too. But supposedly they're mixed and one just takes more after one parent than the other. She urged me to see them again together. I don't know. I don't really plan on doing it but I'm kinda a sucker for that. We'll see.

Catelyn Jam (Ying) - Filipina. Her body is awesome if you like tight little spinners (I do) and her photos are pretty accurate. However, she needs makeup on her face to match the photos, which she unfortunately did not prepare for me. That's a little disappointing. She also asked me to bring her food, which I obliged cause I like the girls to be in a good mood so if it costs me a little bit of time and money so be it. Once again, showered alone. This reminded me of some of the other reviews I gave (Hera, Pingping) who just didn't seem to put forth too much effort. Catelyn was far better than those other two, but it was still a tad bit disappointing. Nevertheless, here body is banging and her demeanor was overall acceptable so I could imagine repeating. She definitely wants to and says she'll be in Taipei a lot. She asks for 8 k but accepted my 6 k offer, so to some degree I get that she may not feel she needs to put in maximum effort. Also, I left after about 45 minutes so once again a little short. I did arrive 20 minutes late (due to picking up food on the way) but I would have liked to have had more time.

Alright, that's all for now fellas.

A petite, young Thai beauty caught my attention. Any more petite, she would have been imperceivable to the sense of sight. Obviously an exaggeration, but just trying to drive the point home, a lovely, flawless, tiny beauty. And, bedside manners of the very highest order. Very humble, sweet, perceptive, accommodating, and untainted by the profession. It was a real unrushed session and she is one of those that blossoms fully in the bedroom. I am not used to being treated with such kindness, by a young lady who truly expresses her enjoyment and appreciation. Not something you expect to meet in those alleys.

I, also, am looking to cut down on my activities, but who knows if my vows can be kept. In this department, my trustworthiness to my word is woefully lacking. But, I certainly will attempt to turn things around and focus more on projects that bear palpable gains.

I don't want to make any great proclamations. Surely, once or twice a month is not egregious in the beginning, as a tryout for self-discipline.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2821790]Firstly, I'll say thank you to this forum. I wish I had discovered you all much sooner. I've tried to give back in my own way. And I'm saying this because, although this is certainly not a goodbye, I am feeling grateful. Also, as of this moment I am planning to slow wayyyyyyy down. I've been going extremely hard the past month and, well, this was a once in a lifetime type of month. But as May draws to a close, I will end this chapter and the next chapter will be back to normal life, with a very occasional dalliance.

Alright, that's all for now fellas.[/QUOTE]Great reviews. Time to recuperate and recharge. Let us know about your next adventures.

By the way, I was really disappointed in the information about Karina. She is so beautiful that I got a massive hard on just looking at her pictures. I thought about seeing her anyway. But I am pretty sure what happened to you will happen to me.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2821790]Firstly, I'll say thank you to this forum. I wish I had discovered you all much sooner. I've tried to give back in my own way. And I'm saying this because, although this is certainly not a goodbye, I am feeling grateful. Also, as of this moment I am planning to slow wayyyyyyy down. I've been going extremely hard the past month and, well, this was a once in a lifetime type of month. But as May draws to a close, I will end this chapter and the next chapter will be back to normal life, with a very occasional dalliance.

Olivia Mae. Mixed Latina / Asian although she could pass for full Latina I think. Photos are accurate. She's incredibly beautiful. Body, face, all of it. I asked for 6 k (down from her requested 8 k) and she immediately agreed. She went a little MIA in the 15 minutes before we were supposed to meet. I made my way to her incall anyway and then got nervous hanging around with radio silence. Luckily she finally messaged back asking for me to give her just a few more minutes. Our time was very nice, not exactly a rushed session overall however I would have enjoyed a longer build up and instead she got things started quickly. Also made me shower on my own, which is unfortunately becoming quite a theme. Overall was quite happy (BBBJ, covered everything else) but afterwards (it was just past midnight) we chatted for a bit and it was quite apparent to me that she was preparing herself for another meeting. Which is totally fine with me generally speaking, but IF I was sandwiched between two others then that's not exactly ideal. And like I said, I wasn't exactly rushed but I did leave after about 45 minutes out of the full hour because I had the feeling she needed to get ready again. Overall liked her and would probably repeat if the opportunity presented itself.

Jonacas (babygirl) - Again, accurate photos. Very beautiful Filipina. A little bit bigger, tougher, stronger than sorta the tiny, sweet thing that was depicted on social media, but no less attractive at all. 5 k damage. I managed to chat with her a little bit and hold off getting started too quickly. She was very open and we had quite a good rapport. She made me think that she likes me, which I guess is a great quality Or maybe she did actually like me She also really made it believable that she was enjoying our time together. I dunno, it was probably all an incredible act, but I appreciated it. She even kept me from finishing a couple times, as if she wanted to keep it going longer. Anyway she is still a sweet thing, BBBJ was nice (actually she tried to do CBJ but after I asked her not to she obliged), but had to shower alone again. She's at the top of my list and I absolutely do plan to see her again.

Calista. Mixed Latina / Asian. Well, just when I thought perhaps my psychological issues were behind me, they reared their ugly head again the moment I saw Calista. I must emphasize right here that I am extremely confident that my uncertainty was misguided. I do not think any of you gents, particularly Filler who asked about her, have anything to worry about in that regard at all. But for some reason, a few things the moment I walked into the wrong gave me some PTSD. Anyway, everything was fine. BBBJ was good. Damage was 5 k and it was worth it cause she was incredibly patient with me, working through my initial struggle. We actually spoke very candidly about my issue and it's because of this discussion that I feel so strongly that she's "authentic. " A few of things the she told me I can't imagine someone saying if they weren't. One incredibly surprising fact. Apparently she's twin sisters with Olivia Mae. I still don't quite believe it. I can see them being sisters but not twins. Their faces just aren't the same. And their skin tone / complexion is quite different too. But supposedly they're mixed and one just takes more after one parent than the other. She urged me to see them again together. I don't know. I don't really plan on doing it but I'm kinda a sucker for that. We'll see.

Catelyn Jam (Ying) - Filipina. Her body is awesome if you like tight little spinners (I do) and her photos are pretty accurate. However, she needs makeup on her face to match the photos, which she unfortunately did not prepare for me. That's a little disappointing. She also asked me to bring her food, which I obliged cause I like the girls to be in a good mood so if it costs me a little bit of time and money so be it. Once again, showered alone. This reminded me of some of the other reviews I gave (Hera, Pingping) who just didn't seem to put forth too much effort. Catelyn was far better than those other two, but it was still a tad bit disappointing. Nevertheless, here body is banging and her demeanor was overall acceptable so I could imagine repeating. She definitely wants to and says she'll be in Taipei a lot. She asks for 8 k but accepted my 6 k offer, so to some degree I get that she may not feel she needs to put in maximum effort. Also, I left after about 45 minutes so once again a little short. I did arrive 20 minutes late (due to picking up food on the way) but I would have liked to have had more time.

Alright, that's all for now fellas.[/QUOTE]I never used MR / EG before; going to be in TPE shortly and intrigued to check this out (I got few leads on SA besides). But do ya' all pay EG / MR gals upfront or after the act? What is usual / customary in TPE (never been here before).

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2818964]Filler and hughjass were both discussing "karina" and quite possible the same one. Anyway, were you talking to Karina or Katrina?[/QUOTE]Katrina.

She was insistent she was leaving the following morning and needed to meet up 'now'. She's back on MR saying she 'just arrived'.

[QUOTE=NigtRider;2822128]
By the way, I was really disappointed in the information about Karina. She is so beautiful that I got a massive hard on just looking at her pictures. I thought about seeing her anyway. But I am pretty sure what happened to you will happen to me.[/QUOTE]I agree. I made a tentative appointment with her immediately and then, soon after, saw Filler's post. And then when I went back and dug up all the info that I could find, the pieces started to fit together. Oh well. Part of me is like. Well, if you can't tell in the moment then what does it matter. But another part of me just can't let go and that's the part that needs to function during these activities!

[QUOTE=MushElvii;2822503]I never used MR / EG before; going to be in TPE shortly and intrigued to check this out (I got few leads on SA besides). But do ya' all pay EG / MR gals upfront or after the act? What is usual / customary in TPE (never been here before).[/QUOTE]I can't really tell you what is customary in TPE since I've never actually discussed this with anyone here. But I've grown accustomed to placing the donation in an envelope on a counter / table when I arrive so I've been doing that here in Taipei. Sometimes just handing it directly to the girl. Out of 12 meetings so far, I think only one girl has ever asked for it upfront. And most of the time after I place it, they will not look at it at all.

Anyone know if she's actually the girl in the photos? Girl in the photos actually has a massive OF following and, well, I'm intrigued if it's her.

At the end of Taipei travel, I contacted a mama-san that I knew before. She told me that after COVID, the price of young girls are going up and she would try the best. I took a hotel at Ximen area, a nice one that I didn't remember the name. I foud a room after trying several shortpass hotels and the demands seems to be high!

After having settled in the nice room with a romantic decoration (which costed me 900 NT $), I sent the hotel name and room number to my mama-san. The girl arrived 30 mn later, a very cute 20-year girl with big eyes and she was totally my dish. The price was 9000 NT $ for 1 h. We washed together in bath and checked each other. She was very clean and smelled good. I proposed to do bareback and she hesitated and asked for another 9000 NT $. I said yes. I creampied her twice. The first one was quick fast since I was excited. The second round was long and I fucked her almost 1 h non-stop before filling her pussy from behind. After 2 creampies, she started to worry a little bit and I comforted her that it's OK no problem.

Many girls propose bareback in Taipei. Especially the youngest ones. Even some young russian girls propose bareback! That was a heaven.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;2822503]I never used MR / EG before; going to be in TPE shortly and intrigued to check this out (I got few leads on SA besides). But do ya' all pay EG / MR gals upfront or after the act? What is usual / customary in TPE (never been here before).[/QUOTE]Hey! I know MR, but what website is EG and SA?

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2822735]At the end of Taipei travel, I contacted a mama-san that I knew before. She told me that after COVID, the price of young girls are going up and she would try the best. I took a hotel at Ximen area, a nice one that I didn't remember the name. I foud a room after trying several shortpass hotels and the demands seems to be high!

After having settled in the nice room with a romantic decoration (which costed me 900 NT $), I sent the hotel name and room number to my mama-san. The girl arrived 30 mn later, a very cute 20-year girl with big eyes and she was totally my dish. The price was 9000 NT $ for 1 h. We washed together in bath and checked each other. She was very clean and smelled good. I proposed to do bareback and she hesitated and asked for another 9000 NT $. I said yes. I creampied her twice. The first one was quick fast since I was excited. The second round was long and I fucked her almost 1 h non-stop before filling her pussy from behind. After 2 creampies, she started to worry a little bit and I comforted her that it's OK no problem.

Many girls propose bareback in Taipei. Especially the youngest ones. Even some young russian girls propose bareback! That was a heaven.[/QUOTE]Damn 9 k for 1 h is really expensive! I remember last time I was in Taiwan in 2020 during covid it was 1 k-6 k through my Line contacts, unfortunately lost the contacts since then. Any way to share the mamasan you know of?

Probably find a lot of girls, and a lot of inflated prices due to Computex that has been happening the last few days.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2822735]At the end of Taipei travel, I contacted a mama-san that I knew before. She told me that after COVID, the price of young girls are going up and she would try the best. I took a hotel at Ximen area, a nice one that I didn't remember the name. I foud a room after trying several shortpass hotels and the demands seems to be high!

After having settled in the nice room with a romantic decoration (which costed me 900 NT $), I sent the hotel name and room number to my mama-san. The girl arrived 30 mn later, a very cute 20-year girl with big eyes and she was totally my dish. The price was 9000 NT $ for 1 h. We washed together in bath and checked each other. She was very clean and smelled good. I proposed to do bareback and she hesitated and asked for another 9000 NT $. I said yes. I creampied her twice. The first one was quick fast since I was excited. The second round was long and I fucked her almost 1 h non-stop before filling her pussy from behind. After 2 creampies, she started to worry a little bit and I comforted her that it's OK no problem.

Many girls propose bareback in Taipei. Especially the youngest ones. Even some young russian girls propose bareback! That was a heaven.[/QUOTE]I don't live in Taiwan. But, I travel 4-5 times every year for 2 weeks or so for business purposes. I have met many girls here in taipai and tainan. In most cases, I paid additional 2 k to 3 k to go bareback. I however never finish inside pussy. Because, I believe taiwanese girls are very fucking fertile. Did not want to have my kids roaming around taiwan without my knowledge.

[QUOTE=BoomerMan;2822770]Hey! I know MR, but what website is EG and SA?[/QUOTE]Euro girls.

Seeking arrangements.

[QUOTE=BoomerMan;2822772]Damn 9 k for 1 h is really expensive! I remember last time I was in Taiwan in 2020 during covid it was 1 k-6 k through my Line contacts, unfortunately lost the contacts since then. Any way to share the mamasan you know of?[/QUOTE]Well, a simple mama-san that I found on the net via [URL]******.com[/URL], just go to Taiwan section. I use this mama-san since so many year and she knows well my preference, young, white skin teen.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2823147]Well, a simple mama-san that I found on the net via [URL]******.com[/URL], just go to Taiwan section. I use this mama-san since so many year and she knows well my preference, young, white skin teen.[/QUOTE]Mind DM'ig me the contact details? Or the website? Since it's blocked here.

[QUOTE=BoomerMan;2822772]Damn 9 k for 1 h is really expensive! I remember last time I was in Taiwan in 2020 during covid it was 1 k-6 k through my Line contacts, unfortunately lost the contacts since?[/QUOTE]Yes of course you can find cheaper girls, but from my experience if you like young teens, then the starting point should be around 8000 before COVID. Now there are a lot of South-East Asia girls (vietnam, malaysia, etc.) but I have never tested since they provide normallt in-call service inside local appartements.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2823453]Yes of course you can find cheaper girls, but from my experience if you like young teens, then the starting point should be around 8000 before COVID. Now there are a lot of South-East Asia girls (vietnam, malaysia, etc.) but I have never tested since they provide normallt in-call service inside local appartements.[/QUOTE]I think you're right. 9 k is reasonable if they deliver the quality you want and it's outcall. A lot of the independent girls I am seeing are also in that price range for an outcall.

I've yet to go the agency route myself, but I might eventually. Just concerned about the quality of the girls vs bait and switch. Also, much easier for me to go to an incall than arrange for an outcall location. That said, with the independents there's also still a concern about the quality.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2822735]Many girls propose bareback in Taipei. Especially the youngest ones. Even some young russian girls propose bareback! That was a heaven.[/QUOTE]In my experience local providers will rarely propose or agree to BBFS. Different story for the Viets, about half of them will agree if you add an additional 1 k or so. 9 k is way way overpriced.

Stay safe everyone.

[QUOTE=LennyLein;2823797]In my experience local providers will rarely propose or agree to BBFS. Different story for the Viets, about half of them will agree if you add an additional 1 k or so. 9 k is way way overpriced.

Stay safe everyone.[/QUOTE]Providers not always, but the local sex ed is almost non existent so TW local girls (from dating apps) almost never ask for condoms.

It's a bit risky since they have no idea about safety or anything.

In my experience on the streets, a condom is a mere formality for both parties. Most would never hazard the risk of going raw.

On the other hand, the minority look at me puzzled when I ask for a condom. Sometimes, they don't have them. So, I carry my own.

Some are so frisky and fast that they almost accomplish squatting down on my unprotected member in record time, missing their target by a fraction of a pubic hair before I am able to sidestep their advances. And, then they look at me like I am a ridiculous, foolish worrywart, like that is standard procedure and I am the only fraidy-cat, wuss using a condom. And, I look at them and just shake my head, like WTF?

Obviously, they have built up quite a bit of immunity. Some of these girls are knocking out close to 100 quickies a week. I can't guarantee that I share their same immunity. I do prefer drama-free, non-nightmarish sleep at night.

The expense of after-the-fact STD meds in a clinic if infected would cost me my mongering budget for probably at least a half year for my caliber of companionship. Not to mention the shame and being on record with that embarrassment, downtime, and damage to my system. Because, I ain't no youngster. And, even if I was, I wouldn't cherish the experience.

[QUOTE=LennyLein;2823797]In my experience local providers will rarely propose or agree to BBFS. Different story for the Viets, about half of them will agree if you add an additional 1 k or so. 9 k is way way overpriced.
Stay safe everyone.[/QUOTE]From the ad on LINE, msotly TW, JP and KR girls proposent BBFS. Very few Viet and Chineses girls proposent. I always question why? All the Chinese mainland girls find that TW girls are crazy to provide BBFS with creampie. I've no experience witn Viet girls yet.

Can anybody help talk me through the various issues and concerns with a video call for verification? In my time here it seems more common for escorts to request this and, apparently, for guys to agree, than in the US. The girls say it's for safety and for comfort in deciding to see you, and they also say it's good for us guys to see that they are real as well. So what are the pitfalls?

Since the beginning I've always refused this and moved onto the next (in the US) but after arriving here and being tempted several times, I'm now considering breaking my rule. My fear is being recorded, and the recording being used to identify and / or blackmail me. However I'd imagine the chances of being able to identify me are fairly slim since I don't think there's available access to a facial recognition database that I'm part of, and in any case I can keep the chat completely innocuous so there's plausible deniability that the video chat was just to meet someone online (I do chat with random new people online semi-routinely).

So, any reasons why I should or shouldn't stick to this rule?

[QUOTE=Amazake;2823926]The expense of after-the-fact STD meds in a clinic if infected would cost me my mongering budget for probably at least a half year for my caliber of companionship. Not to mention the shame and being on record with that embarrassment, downtime, and damage to my system. Because, I ain't no youngster. And, even if I was, I wouldn't cherish the experience.[/QUOTE]True, those checks are a worry to do.

Maybe we can share some of the STD clinics that people use for their checks? The NHI / hospitals do it as well. I've had doctors tell me that there is no need to do any tests if you wear a condom, and doesn't see the point of wasting NHI money on the tests.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2823945]

So, any reasons why I should or shouldn't stick to this rule?[/QUOTE]I haven't thought of it a great deal but have come to the same conclusion you have. A lot of girls seem to really like the idea though I don't see any real upside for guys being on video like that. In fact, I tend to avoid anybody who has a hundred Instagram pictures and a thousand TikTok videos because they live with their phone in their hand, including when you're in the room. I sent a message to one girl and she snapped a picture of the guy in her room saying he was leaving in about five minutes. And never contacted her again.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2823926]In my experience on the streets, a condom is a mere formality for both parties. Most would never hazard the risk of going raw.[/QUOTE]For working girls, I wouldn't consider it but have noticed that 'freebies' in recent years have gone away from condoms. It used to be that a girl wanting you to finish inside her was rare though it's not uncommon now. Along with shaved pussies and wanting you to cum on their face, I blame / thank porn.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2823926]In my experience on the streets, a condom is a mere formality for both parties. Most would never hazard the risk of going raw.

On the other hand, the minority look at me puzzled when I ask for a condom. Sometimes, they don't have them. So, I carry my own.

Some are so frisky and fast that they almost accomplish squatting down on my unprotected member in record time, missing their target by a fraction of a pubic hair before I am able to sidestep their advances. And, then they look at me like I am a ridiculous, foolish worrywart, like that is standard procedure and I am the only fraidy-cat, wuss using a condom. And, I look at them and just shake my head, like WTF?

Obviously, they have built up quite a bit of immunity. Some of these girls are knocking out close to 100 quickies a week. I can't guarantee that I share their same immunity. I do prefer drama-free, non-nightmarish sleep at night..[/QUOTE]Doing protected intercourse is always recommended. However, even if you go bareback with a girl who has confirmed AIDS / HIV infection, you still have 0. 04% chance of getting infected. Other normal STDs are easier to get transmitted. But, those are only temporary. HIV / AIDS is the only permenent shit to worry for.

If you believe, girls and you washed up properly before starting the deeds, chances are way way lesser than 0. 04%.

So, if you ever want to go bareback, you can try to find costlier chicks who does not regularly go bareback.

Over the period of last 8 years or so, I have gone bareback like roughly 50 times, and I am still clean like Arctic snow. My last test was a month ago and my last bareback was in last December.

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT PROPOSING TO GO BAREBACK. I AM JUST SHARING ABOUT ME.

[QUOTE=Exile;2824106]For working girls, I wouldn't consider it but have noticed that 'freebies' in recent years have gone away from condoms. It used to be that a girl wanting you to finish inside her was rare though it's not uncommon now. Along with shaved pussies and wanting you to cum on their face, I blame / thank porn.[/QUOTE]Can confirm. Girls I met on dating apps were asking to get cummed inside. Eating plan be is like M&M here.

[QUOTE=Mayurp;2824179]Doing protected intercourse is always recommended. However, even if you go bareback with a girl who has confirmed AIDS / HIV infection, you still have 0. 04% chance of getting infected. Other normal STDs are easier to get transmitted. But, those are only temporary. HIV / AIDS is the only permenent shit to worry for.

If you believe, girls and you washed up properly before starting the deeds, chances are way way lesser than 0. 04%.

So, if you ever want to go bareback, you can try to find costlier chicks who does not regularly go bareback.

Over the period of last 8 years or so, I have gone bareback like roughly 50 times, and I am still clean like Arctic snow. My last test was a month ago and my last bareback was in last December.

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT PROPOSING TO GO BAREBACK. I AM JUST SHARING ABOUT ME.[/QUOTE]With respect to over 100 HPV viruses, I have included the following quoted material from medical sources:

"Most men who get HPV never have symptoms. The infection usually goes away by itself. But, if HPV does not go away, it can cause genital warts or certain kinds of cancer. Talk to your healthcare provider about anything new or unusual on your penis, scrotum, anus, mouth, or throat.

Most people with HPV do not know they have the infection. They never develop symptoms or health problems from it. Some people find out they have HPV when they get genital warts. Women may find out they have HPV when they get an abnormal Pap test result (during cervical cancer screening).

Can a man be tested? Research has shown that the HPV test may lead to inconsistent results with men. This is because it is difficult to get a good cell sample to test from the thick skin on the penis. Most people will not have visible symptoms if they are exposed to HPV.

Silent Symptoms.

Although most HPV infections go away on their own without causing problems — thanks to the body's immune system — certain HPV strains can linger silently for years and lead to genital warts or cancer in both men and women.

Men definitely need to be concerned about human papillomavirus (HPV). More than 40 types of HPV can be passed on through genital or oral sexual contact, and HPV can infect men's genital areas, including the skin on and around the penis or anus, as well as the mouth and throat.

[QUOTE=Mayurp;2824179]Doing protected intercourse is always recommended. However, even if you go bareback with a girl who has confirmed AIDS / HIV infection, you still have 0. 04% chance of getting infected. Other normal STDs are easier to get transmitted. But, those are only temporary. HIV / AIDS is the only permenent shit to worry for.

If you believe, girls and you washed up properly before starting the deeds, chances are way way lesser than 0. 04%.

So, if you ever want to go bareback, you can try to find costlier chicks who does not regularly go bareback.

Over the period of last 8 years or so, I have gone bareback like roughly 50 times, and I am still clean like Arctic snow. My last test was a month ago and my last bareback was in last December.

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT PROPOSING TO GO BAREBACK. I AM JUST SHARING ABOUT ME.[/QUOTE]I agree. The HIV prevalence is very low especially with young women in Taiwan. If you want to do BBFS, then willing to pay more to find a local young teen who will not accept so many guys a day. Besides what is the interest to BBFS with a urgly old chick? You pay 20k$ for 2h session with a 20-y local teen and you can explore all her potential.

That is why the Hiv prevalence is generally very low among mongers.

For me, a bareback freebie is really dangerous. Why a young woman lets an old guy to come inside her pussy? You are not George Cloonley.

Escort girls who accept bareback are either very young or very old.

[QUOTE=Mayurp;2824179]Doing protected intercourse is always recommended. However, even if you go bareback with a girl who has confirmed AIDS / HIV infection, you still have 0. 04% chance of getting infected. Other normal STDs are easier to get transmitted. But, those are only temporary. HIV / AIDS is the only permenent shit to worry for.

If you believe, girls and you washed up properly before starting the deeds, chances are way way lesser than 0. 04%.

So, if you ever want to go bareback, you can try to find costlier chicks who does not regularly go bareback.

Over the period of last 8 years or so, I have gone bareback like roughly 50 times, and I am still clean like Arctic snow. My last test was a month ago and my last bareback was in last December.

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT PROPOSING TO GO BAREBACK. I AM JUST SHARING ABOUT ME.[/QUOTE]With respect to your comment "I am clean like Arctic snow," there is the undetectable concerns that fall through the cracks. I don't want to go too deeply into this, because it brings back emotions that are quite disturbing to myself.

Let me vaguely describe the situation. The love of my life, Asian loyal virgin, only myself, together night and day. I always get tested and also "clean like Arctic snow. " She goes for routine checkup. HPV pops up. Precancerous cells. Doctor wants to see me. Finger pointing to me. Embarrassing. Myself and my lady, trust destroyed. She turned out okay, thank God. But, it destroyed intimacy.

The long and the short of it, protect yourself if you are able to. Because, even when you come up clean, you could be infected and in essence, be a carrier passing it on to the ladies. True, there are shots to take, but there are too many viruses, and the shots don't cover all of them.

I hate to be a wet blanket, but I got hit hard and I would be no friend to anybody here if I fail to disclose. So, that is why I forego that extra 10% of pleasure by wrapping it with latex.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2824493]With respect to your comment "I am clean like Arctic snow," there is the undetectable concerns that fall through the cracks. I don't want to go too deeply into this, because it brings back emotions that are quite disturbing to myself.

Let me vaguely describe the situation. The love of my life, Asian loyal virgin, only myself, together night and day. I always get tested and also "clean like Arctic snow. " She goes for routine checkup. HPV pops up. Precancerous cells. Doctor wants to see me. Finger pointing to me. Embarrassing. Myself and my lady, trust destroyed. She turned out okay, thank God. But, it destroyed intimacy.

The long and the short of it, protect yourself if you are able to. Because, even when you come up clean, you could be infected and in essence, be a carrier passing it on to the ladies. True, there are shots to take, but there are too many viruses, and the shots don't cover all of them.

I hate to be a wet blanket, but I got hit hard and I would be no friend to anybody here if I fail to disclose. So, that is why I forego that extra 10% of pleasure by wrapping it with latex.[/QUOTE]You are right from this point of view.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2824243]With respect to over 100 HPV viruses, I have included the following quoted material from medical sources:

"Most men who get HPV never have symptoms. The infection usually goes away by itself. But, if HPV does not go away, it can cause genital warts or certain kinds of cancer. Talk to your healthcare provider about anything new or unusual on your penis, scrotum, anus, mouth, or throat.

......

Men definitely need to be concerned about human papillomavirus (HPV). More than 40 types of HPV can be passed on through genital or oral sexual contact, and HPV can infect men's genital areas, including the skin on and around the penis or anus, as well as the mouth and throat.[/QUOTE]A true story.

A friend of mine was also a hobbyist. He got a genital wart. He found out he has HPV. His wife divorced him.

About 10 year later, he developed a throat cancer. It needed to be removed. It is a very risky procedure because it is very close to the air pipe.

During the operation, there was complications. The air pipe was blocked, heart stopped beating, blood flow to the brain stopped. My friend and I lives in a city best known for cancer research. His doctor is very experienced in this type of operation. Air was pumped to the lung, his heart was restarted. The operation was considered a success.

A few years later, he started to feel tingling sensation from his extremeties at night. He started to talk a little slower. His ability to understand complex concept lessened.

He no longer hobby because he finds interacting with strange girls with unfamiliar phone numbers and addresses confusing.

Hi All,

First time posting here and looking for some advice. Currently I am staying here in Taipei for a month and looking for some fun in the meantime. I am trying to find something a bit more "high-end" (not tea house / KTV / street) but I am not getting much from searching online and reading everything here. One thing I noticed is jkf and I see options such as 60-90 mins for about 2-3 k twd, but I am wondering if there are better options out there. I am willing to pay up to 5 k per hour if that is some sort of an indication. Also, I am Asian and speak fluent mandarin so hopefully that broadens my scope a bit. Thanks in advance for all the suggestion I can get.

Thanks again and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825376]Hi All,

First time posting here and looking for some advice. Currently I am staying here in Taipei for a month and looking for some fun in the meantime. I am trying to find something a bit more "high-end" (not tea house / KTV / street) but I am not getting much from searching online and reading everything here. One thing I noticed is jkf and I see options such as 60-90 mins for about 2-3 k twd, but I am wondering if there are better options out there. I am willing to pay up to 5 k per hour if that is some sort of an indication. Also, I am Asian and speak fluent mandarin so hopefully that broadens my scope a bit. Thanks in advance for all the suggestion I can get.

Thanks again and stay safe.[/QUOTE]I think that you find nothing decent with 5 K, personally I think that in Taipei, a young teen needs 8 K-10 K as baseline. So Taipei is expensive for outcall fun.

Read through Filler's posts cause he probably fits your description the best. He is fluent in Mandarin and has dabbled plenty at your price point.

I am quite well-versed now in the MR, EG listings. Quite a few of them will come down to 6 k (that's my number) so I'd imagine quite a few also will come down to 5 k. In fact, it's not unusual to see a quality girl who advertises at 5 k off the bat. That said, the listings are hit or miss and you'll need to spend time really trying to sort it all out and decide who's most likely the type of girl you want to see.

Again, I default to Filler's experience in terms of lower price, Mandarin-only listings or spas.

I see where Didier is coming from with his comment about higher prices as a baseline, but I think that's strictly for outcall. If that's not necessary for you, then incall would be the higher value play.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825376]Hi All,

First time posting here and looking for some advice. Currently I am staying here in Taipei for a month and looking for some fun in the meantime. I am trying to find something a bit more "high-end" (not tea house / KTV / street) but I am not getting much from searching online and reading everything here. One thing I noticed is jkf and I see options such as 60-90 mins for about 2-3 k twd, but I am wondering if there are better options out there. I am willing to pay up to 5 k per hour if that is some sort of an indication. Also, I am Asian and speak fluent mandarin so hopefully that broadens my scope a bit. Thanks in advance for all the suggestion I can get.

Thanks again and stay safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2825466]Read through Filler's posts cause he probably fits your description the best. He is fluent in Mandarin and has dabbled plenty at your price point.

I am quite well-versed now in the MR, EG listings. Quite a few of them will come down to 6 k (that's my number) so I'd imagine quite a few also will come down to 5 k. In fact, it's not unusual to see a quality girl who advertises at 5 k off the bat. That said, the listings are hit or miss and you'll need to spend time really trying to sort it all out and decide who's most likely the type of girl you want to see.

Again, I default to Filler's experience in terms of lower price, Mandarin-only listings or spas.

I see where Didier is coming from with his comment about higher prices as a baseline, but I think that's strictly for outcall. If that's not necessary for you, then incall would be the higher value play.[/QUOTE]From mathematical expectation point of view, if the probability to have a good quality girl is 10%, then the price to pay to get a good girl will be 5 K /10% = 50 K.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2825466]Read through Filler's posts cause he probably fits your description the best. He is fluent in Mandarin and has dabbled plenty at your price point.

I am quite well-versed now in the MR, EG listings. Quite a few of them will come down to 6 k (that's my number) so I'd imagine quite a few also will come down to 5 k. In fact, it's not unusual to see a quality girl who advertises at 5 k off the bat. That said, the listings are hit or miss and you'll need to spend time really trying to sort it all out and decide who's most likely the type of girl you want to see.

Again, I default to Filler's experience in terms of lower price, Mandarin-only listings or spas.

I see where Didier is coming from with his comment about higher prices as a baseline, but I think that's strictly for outcall. If that's not necessary for you, then incall would be the higher value play.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yeah I am mainly looking for incall. I am also not oppose to spending in the upwards of 6-10 k if I can get a good experience as this is about the same price range that I am used to in the States. Price is not a huge concern to me, primarily just looking for a good time since I will only be here for a short period. I am just curious as what is the consensus on all the listings on jkf, there are some extensive reviews which seem decent. I am just a bit apprehensive since the price is so cheap.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2825530]From mathematical expectation point of view, if the probability to have a good quality girl is 10%, then the price to pay to get a good girl will be 5 K /10% = 50 K.[/QUOTE]So far I have seen 5 girls from the websites at the 5 k price point or lower. Everything depends on your perception and preferences obviously, but I'the say all five were "good. " Two are ATFs and two were very good, only one was borderline good and she was actually 2. 5 k. So honestly I'the say my hit rate has been 80% or 100% depending on your rigidity in what is good.

BTW, I don't disagree with you on the price point. My 5 k is for incall. Most of them that I see at the at price are nearly double for outcall, which is what you seem to be paying as a baseline for outcall. So we're on the same page, it's just that if you're willing to do incall then the price can be lower.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825575]Thanks, yeah I am mainly looking for incall. I am also not oppose to spending in the upwards of 6-10 k if I can get a good experience as this is about the same price range that I am used to in the States. Price is not a huge concern to me, primarily just looking for a good time since I will only be here for a short period. I am just curious as what is the consensus on all the listings on jkf, there are some extensive reviews which seem decent. I am just a bit apprehensive since the price is so cheap.[/QUOTE]Saw I got mentioned so I'll just throw in my opinion / experiences in regards to your price range.

Most of my the girls I met were through JKF / some sort of pimp via LINE. You can also find some reviews of the girls available via pimps on a website if you just google sex 100.

Girls range anywhere from 2 k - 5 k per hour, 1's, with +500-1000 for +1's.

IMO I don't think the price range from 2-8 k will determine the quality of experience you can have. I've paid 8 k for 90 min sessions that were just mediocre but the girls were hotter, and also paid 3. 4 k for 60 minutes with an more average looking girl but the service she provided was much more superior. So it all comes down to luck in finding the girls with excellent service as well as what you're looking for.

As for using JKF / reviews to determine which girls are good, here are a couple things I use when considering contacting a girl:

1. User journal reviews: reviews posted under an ad on JKF with no link to an actual diary / report on the users page are kind of useless. I believe some of these messages are either bots / pimps trying to promote the girls since a lot of them are copy pasted. What you want to look through are the reviews under the ad that will link to the users journal, and provide much more detailed reports. They usually will rate the girls face, body, and attitude + what services they provide such as CIM, or +1's freebies or will it cost more. These reviews are much more valuable and the more the better. You can use these to determine if you want to visit that girl. A lot of these users also have a lot of reviews, so you can also just skim through their reviews to find a girl instead of looking at the ads directly.

2. Pictures: Since most of the pictures on JKF ads are highly edited / P.S./ covered, if you can get access to more pictures than the ones on the ad, the higher likelihood of a better experience. Usually this means clicking through a post that links to the users journal / diary / report and there should be more pictures there or finding a pimp and asking directly.

3. Being a regular: Since you're only here for a short while, this might not be suitable for you. But if you can find a pimp with a decent selection of girls, and consistently use them, they will send you pics of the new girls first before they are put on JKF.

4. Number of reviews: On JKF the number of reviews / comments aren't that important IMO. Usually more reviews = better experience but I've also seen girls with less than 3 comments on the ads and just went for it and it was one of the better experiences I had.

If you're willing to dish out a little more money like you said, you can try the girls on MR / Euro that have a lot of favorable reviews, just be aware that the rate of post-ops is higher and do your research beforehand. Note: never just agree to the girls initial price. They deliberately say the price is high on purpose and you can usually get them down to 5 k.

My ultimate recommendation every time is still Helen on Euro. She's still probably one of the best experiences I've had but costs 10 k per hour / no negotiation.

Sorry if what I wrote out is a little sloppy, I did it in a hurry and didn't double check it. If you have any questions while your here, feel free to ask on the forum. Most of my info is from personal experience + this forum combined.

Feel free to view some of my field reports from a month or 2 back that I posted here for more detailed experiences I had.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825575]Thanks, yeah I am mainly looking for incall. I am also not oppose to spending in the upwards of 6-10 k if I can get a good experience as this is about the same price range that I am used to in the States. Price is not a huge concern to me, primarily just looking for a good time since I will only be here for a short period. I am just curious as what is the consensus on all the listings on jkf, there are some extensive reviews which seem decent. I am just a bit apprehensive since the price is so cheap.[/QUOTE]My two favorites from my time in Taiwan and arguably my two favorites (or at least equal to) ever, were both 5 k. So spending more doesn't mean better, although I would say it might improve the odds slightly of a quality girl. But really the girls just price themselves however they want based on how they feel they're worth and / or what they feel is worth it to them, so there's not necessarily a strong correlation of fair market value across the independents. Going through an agency may be a very different story. Also, I'd add that ever since I decided that 6 k was my limit, I've had a 15 k quote drop down to 7 k (I ended up still not seeing her cause she wanted that night only and it wasn't going to work for me) and I've had several 12 k requests cut in half to 6 k. So really most are going to be able to come down in price.

All of this said, I still bet that JKF and Filler's other directions will probably yield the best value for you. My Mandarin isn't quite up to that standard yet.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2825608]So far I have seen 5 girls from the websites at the 5 k price point or lower. Everything depends on your perception and preferences obviously, but I'the say all five were "good. " Two are ATFs and two were very good, only one was borderline good and she was actually 2. 5 k. So honestly I'the say my hit rate has been 80% or 100% depending on your rigidity in what is good.

BTW, I don't disagree with you on the price point. My 5 k is for incall. Most of them that I see at the at price are nearly double for outcall, which is what you seem to be paying as a baseline for outcall. So we're on the same page, it's just that if you're willing to do incall then the price can be lower.[/QUOTE]Totally on the same wavelength. By the way, is incall safe and easy please? It takes place in public hotel or in residential flat? How proceed? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Filler17;2825708]Saw I got mentioned so I'll just throw in my opinion / experiences in regards to your price range.
Most of my the girls I met were through JKF / some sort of pimp via LINE. You can also find some reviews of the girls available via pimps on a website if you just google sex 100.
[/QUOTE]Please what is JKF? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2825835]Please what is JKF? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The f stands for forum, so if you expand the word and search for that you'll find it. There are 2 sections on there, for massage and hotel / uniform if you look under the "Variety" section on the main page.

It's a bit intimidating at first, but once you get to used to it then it's not bad.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2825869]The f stands for forum, so if you expand the word and search for that you'll find it. There are 2 sections on there, for massage and hotel / uniform if you look under the "Variety" section on the main page.

It's a bit intimidating at first, but once you get to used to it then it's not bad.[/QUOTE]I cannot see what you mean, could you please be more explicit? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2826099]I cannot see what you mean, could you please be more explicit? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sent you a DM.

Hey everyone,

Thanks for the detailed posts about JKF. I've been loitering on those forums for months now, and have added over 50 accounts with a lot of reviews, but never actually met someone. I usually see the same comment copy pasted on multiple profiles, and then see the same girl posted by multiple different pimps. I really want to be heading to a private room instead of a brothel sort of place. I'm quite worried about hidden cameras and the like.

I have also tried to find posts with a journal / blog in the comments, but haven't been able to find much. I usually just click on posts with a lot of comments and read them, but most of them don't have a blog post.

So my question for you is, do you have some girls that you would recommend? Please PM me if that works.

How did you filter out the private workers versus the pimps? Did you go to those brothel type establishments as well?

How do you ensure that the room is safe?

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[QUOTE=Didier5810;2825833]Totally on the same wavelength. By the way, is incall safe and easy please? It takes place in public hotel or in residential flat? How proceed? Thanks![/QUOTE]All of the girls I've seen were visiting Taipei so every incall was at a hotel. I'd say all the hotels were minimum 3-star on google (which isn't great but at least not horrible either), they are all pretty much entirely selected based on the fact that you can bypass the front desk and usually can get to the right floor without a keycard. They never seemed safe or scary in any way, but they're not always the most pleasant hotels either. I'd say well over 80% of the incalls are either in Ximending or Wanhua District. I've become extremely familiar with that area after never having set foot there prior to discovering this hobby.

Three cons of incall I can think of off the top of my head:

1) You must travel to the hotel.

2) you usually need to spend some of the meetup time taking a shower (every once in awhile a girl will say no need if I say I showered right before coming).

3) There's no telling how many guys have been in there since the last time the room was cleaned.

Hello,

I'm heading to Taipei for the first time. I'm single, young, and fit rounding off a vacation trip. Where are some places I should go to meet women. Whether it's organic or P4P I want to try my luck with a Taiwanese woman. Are there any bars or clubs I should check out or websites to follow? I'm staying in the Zhongzheng district near the college so I'm hoping Bumble or Tinder is used but just incase I get no catches I want to hear from you all on how to go about P4P. I'm also a brown skinned person so I'm not sure if that helps or makes my situation worse haha. I'll check this page out in the next few days before I go, thanks for the help.

-Sebs.

[QUOTE=FSsebby;2828030]Hello,

I'm heading to Taipei for the first time. I'm single, young, and fit rounding off a vacation trip. Where are some places I should go to meet women. Whether it's organic or P4P I want to try my luck with a Taiwanese woman. Are there any bars or clubs I should check out or websites to follow? I'm staying in the Zhongzheng district near the college so I'm hoping Bumble or Tinder is used but just incase I get no catches I want to hear from you all on how to go about P4P. I'm also a brown skinned person so I'm not sure if that helps or makes my situation worse haha. I'll check this page out in the next few days before I go, thanks for the help.

-Sebs.[/QUOTE]Brass Monkey on a Thursday night. If you don't take home on their ladies night then it's because you said "no" to many of them.

Struck out in Wanhua the other night. So, decided a change of scenery. I was actually planning to go to Taoyuan, but the Keelung train was leaving in one minute, so I called the famous "monger audible. " It felt right.

Got off the train in Keelung and always feel a bit discombobulated. But, I followed the tracks from the direction I just came from, and found the shacks, as run down as ever, and not many girls, and most shacks closed, and not much monger foot traffic. Still and all, there were choices. And, some were very doable, and some were not. The price seems to be a sliding scale from 1000 to 1500, depending on age and appearance.

I was turned down by a tight young looker. Some don't like the western look, appearance and demeanor. Our frames are larger and they are more used to what they grew up seeing. I hope that is the reason, and not that I look like "Frankenstein. " I do my best in the grooming department, and exercise to keep the chest up, abs lean, and looking relatively athletic.

So, I walked the shack alley at least 5 times. I kept careful mental notes. After being turned down by the looker, I changed my requirements for young and gorgeous, because I have had plenty of young beauties recently, to friendly, sexy and enjoyable.

I found her. A Taiwanese MILF with a gigantic smile and nice strong milfy energy and vibe, and happy to entertain me. From the getgo, the session was overflowing with accommodations like taking my shoes off. Got into the room, and the MILF, unabashedly stripped down to her Victoria Secrets, and she was prime, fit and trim. A perfect all natural MILF frame, not an ounce of fat. I shook my head in disbelief and told her what every MILF, if not every girl wants to hear, Oh My God, you are beautiful. Remember boys, "Flattery will get you everywhere. ".

Anyway, she got on top of me and rode me hard and long, competing with the "Pony Express. " But, I forgot to mention that the foreplay was a wonderful covered BJ. (the only way I go) And, she even threw in moans and groans, like the BJ was getting her off. Every working girl has that trick in her arsenal, to try and BJ you off, or nearly off, to avoid the relentless pounding that could ensue. But, being an old time monger, I used the mantra, "Steady as she goes, big boy. ".

A few more beauty praises, which were quite sincere, because I did find her attractive, and she smacks me a kiss, got closer, heart to heart, and we became instant old friends, staring into each other's eyes, feeling plenty comfortable with each other. Tried a number of positions. Finished up, got dressed, nice warm embrace, love peck, and out the door I went. Enjoyed the outing immensely!

Hopped on a train, relaxed, and thought about hopping off at Wanhua for a look around, and possibly another romp for a nightcap. But, better judgment cropped in and reminded me to save it for the next day.

Later on, had a conversation with a civilian stranger (lady) at my bus stop and exchanged numbers. She is actually a very nice person who wants to be my friend. But, not in the same class as the MILF I just played with.

I will visit taipei soon. Can someone give me a very brief guide for the best places to go for sex?

The main red light districts, the massage and brothel locations.

Very briefly I know of huaxi market? And linsen road? Apparently those are rlds?

And what are these tea houses people talk about.

[QUOTE=SaltyDays;2830087]I will visit taipei soon. Can someone give me a very brief guide for the best places to go for sex?

The main red light districts, the massage and brothel locations.

Very briefly I know of huaxi market? And linsen road? Apparently those are rlds?

And what are these tea houses people talk about.[/QUOTE]In Taipei, the Wanhua District encompasses the tea rooms in the Huaxi Night Market area near Longshan Temple. Mostly older women for older men.

But, on the other side of the Longshan Temple is the Kangding, Xichang, Guangzhou, Gilin square that has some younger girls, especially near the Diamond Building alleys, which can be entered via Kangding where you will see the "MILWAUKEE" sign or Xichang via alley openings, or Guilin close to Kangding, near the bike store. The Xichang Market from Guangzhou to Guilin on both sides has girls.

I believe post #6980 by WindAngel has his famous map of the area which will guide you very well. Also, you can read up in that area of this thread to get a feel of the happenings in that area. Good Luck! And, give us a report!

I will be coming to Taipei in 3 months and speak little or no Chinese. How important is it to be able to speak at least some Chinese in order to connect with these ladies? I know that the Google translate is not perfect but it is functional. I have used it many times in Singapore and I have been able to get what I wanted but it seems as though the inablity to have a conversation in Chinese might be a cock blocker?

[QUOTE=Buckeye63;2830936]I will be coming to Taipei in 3 months and speak little or no Chinese. How important is it to be able to speak at least some Chinese in order to connect with these ladies? I know that the Google translate is not perfect but it is functional. I have used it many times in Singapore and I have been able to get what I wanted but it seems as though the inablity to have a conversation in Chinese might be a cock blocker?[/QUOTE]As far as street action goes, you could get by beautifully being a deaf dumb mute. In fact, the Thais and Vietnamese speak little to no Chinese. But, if you are directing your inquiry to online dating, I defer to the more educated amongst us to elaborate on the subject. Thank you.

It wasn't the greatest selection. I searched long and hard, high and low. But, a tall slim Thai was available.

Very shy. Had to really talk her up, make her smile because she wasn't very happy and spoiling the mood of the encounter. She came around. Good girl. Innocent; tried her best. It was a memorable session because of the glove fit. No rush at all.

But, it worked. She came around when she saw that I was not aggressive, a gentleman, that posed her no threat. She was inexperienced. That's okay. Extremely tight fit. I had to hold back. No pounding. Took it slow to her comfort level. Fine by me. Once started and she saw that I was accommodating to her body structure, she relaxed. She had a natural statuesque, runway model physique. Beautiful. But she was no sex machine. But, then again, in her 20's, and to enjoy that tight fit was pretty awesome.

They come in all shapes and sizes from all different lands. I do appreciate the variety and the ability to create something special out of nothing. She was overly worried about police presence. I saw the heat come by and her and her sisters scrambled away and hid. But, they re-emerged. The police don't seem to harass anybody. They just make their presence known. But, she found that aspect threatening.

Had to pass by one of my regulars. When I first met her, she had a lovely figure. Week by week, she gained a pound or two. Now, she is tipping the scale to require an intervention of a Weight-Watcher's program. But, still plenty attractive because she is blessed with good looks and a beautiful smile. I wouldn't dare tell her about her weight. When she was thinner, she was in demand. Guess she was "living high on the hog," as they say in cowboy language.

Did pass through the Huaxi Market. I still can't figure out the eerie awareness of past customers these girls possess. They have a sixth sense when you enter their radar zone. They wave to you from a great distance. Some are extremely strong. I have been grabbed and tugged quite often. The Huaxi breed is completely different than the Kangding breed.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2830348]In Taipei, the Wanhua District encompasses the tea rooms in the Huaxi Night Market area near Longshan Temple. Mostly older women for older men.

But, on the other side of the Longshan Temple is the Kangding, Xichang, Guangzhou, Gilin square that has some younger girls, especially near the Diamond Building alleys, which can be entered via Kangding where you will see the "MILWAUKEE" sign or Xichang via alley openings, or Guilin close to Kangding, near the bike store. The Xichang Market from Guangzhou to Guilin on both sides has girls.

I believe post #6980 by WindAngel has his famous map of the area which will guide you very well. Also, you can read up in that area of this thread to get a feel of the happenings in that area. Good Luck! And, give us a report![/QUOTE]THanks!!

When you say on the other side of longshan there is kanding, xichang etc, what are those? Are those street names?

And also when you say they have girls do you mean they just stand there on the street or are they in little brothels as you walk past? Similar to glass houses, thanks!

[QUOTE=SaltyDays;2833182]THanks!!

When you say on the other side of longshan there is kanding, xichang etc, what are those? Are those street names?

And also when you say they have girls do you mean they just stand there on the street or are they in little brothels as you walk past? Similar to glass houses, thanks![/QUOTE]Those are streets, in a square in that area. Amazake has listed a post number that has a google maps image with points in it.

Yes, there are girls standing around in some of the places, you approach and talk to them.

[QUOTE=SaltyDays;2833182]THanks!!

When you say on the other side of longshan there is kanding, xichang etc, what are those? Are those street names?

And also when you say they have girls do you mean they just stand there on the street or are they in little brothels as you walk past? Similar to glass houses, thanks![/QUOTE]Yes, AsiaFever clarified it quite right. Thank you, AsiaFever for having my back.

AsiaFever is correct to direct you to Post#6980 in this thread. It is a beautiful, "can't-go-wrong".

Nifty map of "the zone" by WindAngel. The streets: Guangzhou, Guilin, Xichang and Kangding, constitute the square where ladies stand around. Within the square are alleys which can be accessed through the openings I mentioned in my previous post to you.

That whole area has street walkers. You just walk up to an obvious lady, working lady, and flat out blatantly ask her if she wants to go to the prom with you. It couldn't be any simpler. No secret codes.

Also, I failed to mention, in the park across from Longshan Temple are also working girls. The park has many names and many homeless people. Few of the names of the park are:

Bangka, Mengxia, Manga.

But, wherever you are in those areas, the girls will take you to a room which is by no means luxurious, but more than adequate and far better than my 1963 VW Beatle that I used for these purposes many years ago when it all began for me.

Just walk up to the girl and get her agreement and follow her to the destination room.

And, the tearooms are in the Huaxi Market area, to the left of the temple as you face the temple. Lots of food in the middle of the street. And girls hang out close to the alleys and take you to tea houses. It is a hit or miss situation. They are master manipulators. It is better if know a girl from the past and tell her to keep to a set price and don't attempt any of the local shenanigans of adding extra girls to the party, et cetera. They are mostly older. A good time could be had, but they are mostly a tougher lazier breed. But, in all honesty, I have enjoyed times with those girls.

When I was in Taipei a few years back a senior board member was good enough to refer me to some line brokers and we had an amazing time at a uniform shop KTV. Unfortunately I had my phone stolen at gunpoint in So Paulo (no lie) and don't have the line contacts anymore. I would be eternally grateful if someone could PM me a line contact or remind me how to navigate this tough nut they call Taipei. Not looking for street action. KTV and HJ is fine.

P.S. I have over 2000 postings here so feel free to look me up and make sure I'm legit. I have also written a book on pretty much all countries worldwide and happy to share with anyone that can help. Thanks. Steve.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2833506]Nifty map of "the zone" by WindAngel. The streets: Guangzhou, Guilin, Xichang and Kangding, constitute the square where ladies stand around. Within the square are alleys which can be accessed through the openings I mentioned in my previous post to you.

That whole area has street walkers. You just walk up to an obvious lady, working lady, and flat out blatantly ask her if she wants to go to the prom with you. It couldn't be any simpler. No secret codes.

Also, I failed to mention, in the park across from Longshan Temple are also working girls. The park has many names and many homeless people. Few of the names of the park are:

Bangka, Mengxia, Manga.

But, wherever you are in those areas, the girls will take you to a room which is by no means luxurious, but more than adequate and far better than my 1963 VW Beatle[/QUOTE]If I were to stay in that area, are the "regular" hotels girl-friendly? I see there's the Monka hotel and Longshan inn, does anyone have any experience with those or any decent place nearby? I see there's Ku Shan Yuan that seems to have a short term option but the few reviews aren't good.

Also, how likely are they to come to my place instead of a tea house? Or am I just barking up the wrong tree / looking for trouble?

I did the street view of Xichang and saw a few tea houses (also on Xiyuan road Lane 72 between huaxi and Bangka temple). Can I get a refresher on how these work? Is it like a love hotel where you pay for a furnished room, or is it more of a private space for actually drinking tea with like a table and sitting place? We're I to go this route, I would hope the girl has a preferred place and can handle that transaction seeing as I don't speak any Chinese. What proportion of those walking the area speak some passable English? For some reason I feel like the non-chinese girls are more likely to do so.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2833601]When I was in Taipei a few years back a senior board member was good enough to refer me to some line brokers and we had an amazing time at a uniform shop KTV. Unfortunately I had my phone stolen at gunpoint in So Paulo (no lie) and don't have the line contacts anymore. I would be eternally grateful if someone could PM me a line contact or remind me how to navigate this tough nut they call Taipei. Not looking for street action. KTV and HJ is fine.

P.S. I have over 2000 postings here so feel free to look me up and make sure I'm legit. I have also written a book on pretty much all countries worldwide and happy to share with anyone that can help. Thanks. Steve.[/QUOTE]PM'd you some info.

[QUOTE=PoptartsMcGee;2834491]If I were to stay in that area, are the "regular" hotels girl-friendly? I see there's the Monka hotel and Longshan inn, does anyone have any experience with those or any decent place nearby? I see there's Ku Shan Yuan that seems to have a short term option but the few reviews aren't good.

Also, how likely are they to come to my place instead of a tea house? Or am I just barking up the wrong tree / looking for trouble?

I did the street view of Xichang and saw a few tea houses (also on Xiyuan road Lane 72 between huaxi and Bangka temple). Can I get a refresher on how these work? Is it like a love hotel where you pay for a furnished room, or is it more of a private space for actually drinking tea with like a table and sitting place? We're I to go this route, I would hope the girl has a preferred place and can handle that transaction seeing as I don't speak any Chinese. What proportion of those walking the area speak some passable English? For some reason I feel like the non-chinese girls are more likely to do so.[/QUOTE]I hope others could add to this because by no means am I an expert as to everything that occurs in and around Longshan Temple. My deficiencies in Mandarin limits my full investigation. And, as you probably already know, not being able to speak Chinese and communicate your desires, of course will limit your being able to fully grasp the entire scene, as it has limited me. But, that being said, I really don't need any more than I am getting. I like to move in and out of the zone rather quickly with ease, leaving as little clues as possible.

And, you would do yourself a favor if you go backwards in this thread and read up, because there is a plethora of information in detail to enlighten you on this area.

But, the area is a smorgasbord of sexual activity. Let's leave Xichang / Kangding alone because that is pretty self explanatory. Far less Taiwanese and Mainlanders, and far more other Asian nationals, Thai, Vietnamese, and others. That area is mostly meet in the streets and your 20 minutes. Unless, you talk to one of those male brokers downstairs and they make other arrangements for you, but, I avoid them.

In the Huaxi Market, I have never met other than Taiwanese and Chinese. It seems like the real main event there is other than what I do. I meet girls outside, get straight on my desires and cost, and we go into a little party room and I get what I paid for. Sometimes other girls show up and I either accept of reject. And, you get whatever you desire.

But, being in the elevatored building, I become privy to the main event there. And, I give directions to the elevatored building in this thread earlier. In that building are younger girls than on the street. Music is blaring, and there are parties going on for the benefit of older gents getting soused out of their minds, plenty of girls running down to the liquor store to replenish their glasses, and platters of food, and these girls are attending these drunks' whims, singing, dancing, touching, feeling and so on and so forth.

I don't drink and party anymore, and I just go there for a cheap thrill, and sometimes to really spend some time with a gal I like. I have been with young girls there in their 20's.

As far as more legitimate hotels, other than quick hotels, I have no knowledge of that.

But, I have met girls in the park who have apartments in the area, and I have stayed with them for 2 or 3 hours, and they give me a good rate. One girl there invited me for the night, and fed me, and wanted to travel with me. The night sounded enticing but after 2 or 3 hours, I had enough. She is a marathoner.

That's about all I have. And, possibly the other gents can add more.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2834707]I hope others could add to this because by no means am I an expert as to everything that occurs in and around Longshan Temple. My deficiencies in Mandarin limits my full investigation. And, as you probably already know, not being able to speak Chinese and communicate your desires, of course will limit your being able to fully grasp the entire scene, as it has limited me. But, that being said, I really don't need any more than I am getting. I like to move in and out of the zone rather quickly with ease, leaving as little clues as possible.

And, you would do yourself a favor if you go backwards in this thread and read up, because there is a plethora of information in detail to enlighten you on this area.

But, the area is a smorgasbord of sexual activity. Let's leave Xichang / Kangding alone because that is pretty self explanatory. Far less Taiwanese and Mainlanders, and far more other Asian nationals, Thai, Vietnamese, and others. That area is mostly meet in the streets and your 20 minutes. Unless, you talk to one of those male brokers downstairs and they make other arrangements for you, but, I avoid them.

In the Huaxi Market, I have never met other than Taiwanese and Chinese. It seems like the real main event there is other than what I do. I meet girls outside, get straight on my desires and cost, and we go into a little party room and I get what I paid for. Sometimes other girls show up and I either accept of reject. And, you get whatever you desire.

But, being in the elevatored building, I become privy to the main event there. And, I give directions to the elevatored building in this thread earlier. In that building are younger girls than on the street. Music is blaring, and there are parties going on for the benefit of older gents getting soused out of their minds, plenty of girls running down to the liquor store to replenish their glasses, and platters of food, and these girls are attending these drunks' whims, singing, dancing, touching, feeling and so on and so forth.

I don't drink and party anymore, and I just go there for a cheap thrill, and sometimes to really spend some time with a gal I like. I have been with young girls there in their 20's.

As far as more legitimate hotels, other than quick hotels, I have no knowledge of that.

But, I have met girls in the park who have apartments in the area, and I have stayed with them for 2 or 3 hours, and they give me a good rate. One girl there invited me for the night, and fed me, and wanted to travel with me. The night sounded enticing but after 2 or 3 hours, I had enough. She is a marathoner.

That's about all I have. And, possibly the other gents can add more.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong, but when you say elevatored building do you mean an actual building with hookers that you can walk in and browse?

If so can you tell me where it is or point to the post about where it is?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=SaltyDays;2836607]Correct me if I am wrong, but when you say elevatored building, do you mean an actual building with hookers that you can walk in and browse?

If so can you tell me where it is or point to the post about where it is?

Thanks![/QUOTE]"Correct me if I am wrong, but when you say elevatored building, do you mean an actual building with hookers that you can walk in and browse?

No, not exactly. That would be too easy.

The elevatored building directions are in Post #6896.

Read in and around Post#6896. It probably describes certain situations in the building.

Actually, it is a building of tea rooms and karaoke rooms. Girls from the street have taken me to upper floors and we did our business in those various rooms. But, while I was up there, I saw many younger party girls up there. I believe they were like party hosts to help the gents get plastered, eat, sing and pass out.

But, one smiled at me and my street girl told me that those girls were available.

But, they are not actually street girls so the deal with each girl is probably different according to price.

I kind of stay away from Huaxi unless I see a regular that keeps her word, or I am feeling adventurous. Once in a room without a firm deal, the girl has you to her advantage, and starts charging you a' la carte, and bringing in a team of girls to make a party at your expense. However, if you lay the law down on price, service and number of girls, if she is one with integrity (some exist) you will walk away very happy, happy with experience, and happy with saved cash.

In the Kangding alleys again. I am not going to elaborate much on this one because it is self-explanatory.

And, she was not going to win any beauty contest, but who cares?

For my taste, she was cute enough, young enough, endowed with raw unbridled sexuality. And that combination trumps a beauty Queen any day of the week.

She was petite (XS) tight and an uncontrollable high-shrilled constant siren. As flexible as a Gumby doll; certainly friendly enough, cute enough, and super charged with energy that could be rekindled, almost immediately after each of her many climaxes.

However, on the other side of the alley, my "ex-go-to" ever-expanding chubby Vietnamese who I sessioned with on many occasions, flashed me an invitation smile. I smiled politely in return, but kept walking without any consideration as a possibility.

We had a sort of never-fully-expressed falling out. I think the basis of our miff is that I feel that she just quits too early, wants a quick turn around, and her service is just too limited. She feels that I expect more, too much more, than a quick fix.

Even gaining some weight, she is by no means obese, but she is certainly not getting the constant patronage that she once enjoyed. IDK? Should I give her another shot for old-times sake? Probably ill-advised. But, I do know her erogenous zones, certainly as well as her boyfriend does. And, although she doesn't recoup well and quits early, she is kind of cheery, buoyant and upbeat. Also, quite clean, but to a fault. She becomes annoyed when she sprays on her sheets, and is compelled to immediately launder them frantically after a session. The cleanliness and sterilization is certainly appreciated by me, but you can tell it is on her mind too much, and disturbs the free-spiritedness of the session.

I do like the familiarity sometimes, though, and the desire on my part to watch her perk up with excitement, but in her camouflaged way, but just feeling her absolute and immediate surrender into total relaxation. You know, everybody has their strengths and weaknesses. And, she is no exception.

You see, she likes to work on quick and abundant turnaround, like a McDonald's, so she charges a little less. And, that is also a pro to match some of her cons.

Hence, she is even willing to entertain me once again, whereas a few weeks ago, we courteously bowed and smiled but we both echoed and mirrored each other's responses which read loud and clear "no way. ".

It is a bit amusing to know so much about these ladies from such brief encounters. I probably wouldn't be as amused to hear what they say about me.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2836844]"Correct me if I am wrong, but when you say elevatored building, do you mean an actual building with hookers that you can walk in and browse?

No, not exactly. That would be too easy.

The elevatored building directions are in Post #6896.

Read in and around Post#6896. It probably describes certain situations in the building.

Actually, it is a building of tea rooms and karaoke rooms. Girls from the street have taken me to upper floors and we did our business in those various rooms. But, while I was up there, I saw many younger party girls up there. I believe they were like party hosts to help the gents get plastered, eat, sing and pass out.

But, one smiled at me and my street girl told me that those girls were available.

But, they are not actually street girls so the deal with each girl is probably different according to price.

I kind of stay away from Huaxi unless I see a regular that keeps her word, or I am feeling adventurous. Once in a room without a firm deal, the girl has you to her advantage, and starts charging you a' la carte, and bringing in a team of girls to make a party at your expense. However, if you lay the law down on price, service and number of girls, if she is one with integrity (some exist) you will walk away very happy, happy with experience, and happy with saved cash.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much!

And also, is there any happy ending massages in Taipei? I've been here 2 days and can't find any haha.

[QUOTE=SaltyDays;2837128]Thank you so much!

And also, is there any happy ending massages in Taipei? I've been here 2 days and can't find any haha.[/QUOTE]Like anywhere else, Asian massage and happy endings are ubiquitous. And, in Taiwan it is no different.

Although, less likely in a place where the glass to the parlor is clear with many different pricing scenarios, foot baths, scraping and cupping, women customers, but I certainly got happies in those places. However, they are more so therapeutic. And, some girls with licenses don't cross over to the dark side. But, if you pop a tent, many will address the elephant in the room, if the massage room is not just curtained off, but private or semi private.

But, if you are not depending on your luck or her mercy, choose maybe a Thai massage establishment, with a very limited menu, and choose an oil massage. Usually, any massage parlor with more darkened or less exposed or transparent glass to the entrance, and where they take you upstairs, there are happy endings and more.

Those shops in and around the Landis Hotel on Min Chuan East Road, Jiantan Station, Zhongshan North Road. Also, close to the Taipei Main Station and again Longshan Temple and the Ximen area.

The non legit places just give off a seedier vibe, usually. But, then again, with some prompts, even a legit place could swing around in your favor.

You will figure it out. Go window shopping and inquire and look for clues in the twinkle in their eyes or body language. You wo t strike out too often.

[QUOTE=SaltyDays;2837128]Thank you so much!

And also, is there any happy ending massages in Taipei? I've been here 2 days and can't find any haha.[/QUOTE]Take Uber to the Landis hotel in Taipei, cross the road to the same side where the Family Mart is.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/bwkjQVyKX5U4Wuyg6[/URL] <- walk on this side of the road and pick any of the massage spots.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/pvCLveJyASPC1tLQ8[/URL] <- down this road there are some more.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2837207]You will figure it out. Go window shopping and inquire and look for clues in the twinkle in their eyes or body language. You wo t strike out too often.[/QUOTE]Yeah, one sure way is during the initial 10-20 minutes of the massage. A real legit massage place is not going to anywhere near your dick or balls. If they do, then you can order off the secret menu.

Is Caesar's World no longer an option in Taipei?

Needing something calmer and not one of these 20 minute frantic races for the finish line, I found myself at a crossroad of sorts.

Ended up in the Longshan Temple area. Where else? Merely because of convenience and proximity. And, saw nothing that in any way excited me.

Then, my eye caught sight of my old faithful standby. But, she was looking a bit withered. She was acting rude and dissatisfied with people around her, like the fruit venders, and patrons and what looked to be previous customers. I kind of watched her, shaking my head. And, what alarmed me was that I was sometimes within her seeing me, and her negative state allowed no awareness of me. She was not in an emotionally sound state. But, anybody could have a bad day. Right?

Her anger at the fruit vendors, I can't really blame her. All they were offering were limes and guava at higher than normal prices. There were other fruits but nothing looked great.

I have gone shopping with this girl previously, and she adores good quality fruits and vegetables. We had dinner together, and she is mostly vegetarian, not by religion, but purely by the delight she finds in vegetation. She usually offers her fruits to the gods at the small Xichang Temple, prays, and takes them home. I have engaged in her ritual prior to our sessions at times.

Anyway, as usual, I digress.

And, I also saw her kind of hissing at her old clients for avoiding her. I approached her and she looked distant, and like she needed counseling and rest.

Against better judgment, we agreed to go to her apartment. We walked at a different pace cadence. When I looked behind me, she wasn't making her usual bee-line to her apartment, like a working girl should, once she secures a date. She continued to argue with old customers and looking at her phone. So much so, I lost her in the crowd.

I figured I am probably better off. What if she has undergone permanent changes due to stress and "the life?

So, I wanted to leave the area and call it a misadventure. But, did have a desire for some action. That was undeniable.

Went scouting for another "bargain. " Found nothing and decided to leave the premises after a quick visit to the temple. I enjoyed a quick encounter with my favorite "golden statue," found in the far left hand corner of the temple. Many pray to him. I do enjoy concentrating a little on his image, a very amiable "enlightened" fellow. It can't hurt, and I am sure that my familial religion won't disdain my love and worship of something so dignified and holy. In my opinion, all the religions commingle at some point under a common Godhead. He gives me a certain solace, and I like watching the other people in the temple in their most humble and pious states.

The temple also provides sprayers with alcohol to disinfect, but a spray of wood grain alcohol, I also find very refreshing on overheated body parts in this heat after walking long, a means of great refreshment. I indulged. Also, in the temple from on high in the back is a time-intervaled spray of refreshing water mist for weary wayfarers inside the temple praying and meditating.

After that, I freshened up in the temple's excellently cleaned lavatory.

Left the temple, and lo and behold met up again with my disgruntled provider who I lost in the crowd, looking annoyed at me.

We agreed to try again at the discounted price that I usually get for 1 k for about 30 to 40 minutes, and she sour-faced me. She is no spring chicken. But. She does keep herself well, thin, eats well. Maybe she should be in a special niche category. She should, but one is not offered for her, unfortunately.

Anyway, at one point in our walk and in her apartment, her nagging for more money got to me and I realized it will definitely curtail and tarnish the session. So, I decided to back out of the deal. In a similarly disgruntled fashion as herself, I blurted out, "Do you want me or not?" She said "yes," begrudgingly so.

I promised to make it up to her in other ways.

After this session, I would be on my way to visit friends. Earlier that day, I purchased a delicious huge bunch of ripe, sweet, delicious longan fruit to give to my friends. But, they would have to go hungry tonight, because the longan fruit were sorely needed for my newfound emergency. In Houdini mystique and confidence, I pulled out the longan fruit from my magic knapsack, reminiscent to "FELIX THE CAT" pulling instantly needed articles out of his "magic bag of tricks. ".

She was delighted like a kindergartener watching the "FELIX THE CAT" cartoon on the silver screen for the first time.

"Now are you happy?" Smiles from ear to ear, chomps a delicious, succulent longan, and it was smooth sailing in lovemaking thereafter.

Never a wild romp. Not like being with a young "missy," who is generally so vibrant, reactive, volatile and responsive.

But, she is a meticulously skilled, accomplished, and dedicated lover. Paces herself perfectly. Expertly exacting in the art of giving and receiving love.

She deeply appreciated my massage and providing her with the comfort and the affection that she has been deprived for so long. And, gave it back to myself, one equally deprived of true affection.

Also, gave her a small tip. Asked her if she was a happy girl. She responded by giving me a hug and a kiss. Girl needs some attention. Always giving, you get burned out. Somebody offering a little kindness can change another's perspective from doom and gloom, to optimism, almost instantly.

However, I never put her info in my phone, because I see how she pesters old clients via cell phone when business is bad. I don't need those phone calls coming in from her or any of these girls. I just keep every outing as a new adventure. If I score, I score. If I fail, so be it. There's always tomorrow.

Be well friends. They say a typhoon is on its way. Good to replenish the fresh water levels.

Other than massage and street girls, neither of which I fancy, Taipei is a tough nut to crack. Unless you are a local, getting action is a bit difficult. Fortunately I was able to get a Line contact a few years ago from a board member and he was still active. My friend Joe speaks Chinese, so he was able to negotiate a KTV visit.

They have this interesting setup in Taiwan where they refer to the girls and venues as "shops". A uniform shop is C class girls, but with handjob included. And a dress shop or gown shop are progressively more B and A class girls, but there is no in room hanky panky other than lap dances. You might negotiate to take a girl home, but that's separate pricing and quite expensive for pretty girls.

My friend had negotiated a uniform shop visit and it was going to be about NTD 5000 a person. But fortunately something a lot better was in store.

We went out and had a nice dinner with a business associate and his team. And he insisted that we go for "Round 2" (apparently a common euphemism for girl sport in Taiwan) and he would pay the full fare. He took us to an amazing dress / gown shop, where we had a blast.

To be clear there is no "shop" involved. When you go in there is like a night guard who makes sure you are legit and have been referred and you go up the elevator to the club. This was a super high class place -- we were escorted down the hall and into the Karaoke or KTV room, which has a U shaped couch and a big Karaoke setup.

There were 5 or 6 of us and they brought in the girls. There wasn't really a line up like last time, but they were all super hot 8's and 9's so we each got a great looking girl. I was fortunate they wanted to treat me and gave me the best looking one -- amazing model face and natural C cups. A full on 9. And even though they said she doesn't speak English that was wrong. She had quite good English for the bit of interaction we had.

There is a ton of drinking and ton of singing. They asked if we wanted beer or whiskey and we chose the whiskey options. The girls keep your glass constantly filled (not to the top, but always a shots worth) as well as service you with water to make sure you stay hydrated. Lots of hands on thigh and stroking and generally having a great time belting out Chinese and American ballads while getting wasted.

Twice, the music changed and the lights went down and the girls went into full on lap dance mode, including taking their tops offf. Hands on tits and ass is fine and expected. Very sexy and my girl was fine as fuck.

I think my buddy and I were expecting hand jobs at some point, but we should have realized this is a top end place with top end girls (dress or gown shop) and that's not on the menu. That turned out to be fine, because our business associate hooked me up and paid for everything. I didn't know it, but he had arranged (and paid for) my girl to go back to my room with me. At about midnight they put us in a car and sent us on our way. No problem with the hotel -- the night clerk didn't even bat an eye as I walked my girl past and up to the elevators.

In room experience was amazing. This girl is a full on 9 with tight body and amazing firm C cup tits. We both showered and then started grinding and tit work fully naked. A bit of light outside fingering (she seemed hesitant for true FIV so I didn't try) but she was fully wet to the outside, so I know she was in it for real.

We had some truly epic sex and a lot of it because I was pretty wasted. Mish, doggie, cowgirl. In cowgirl there was no question she was getting off. She rode like a girl truly trying to get an O and I think we got her a couple small ones with me pushed up inside deep while she ground it out.

In the end, I proved perilously hard to finish. But she sucked and BLS and handjob and every trick in the book. Finally was able to squirt one out on her tummy watching here finger herself. Nice! A true labor of love.

To top it all off, after a nice cuddle and exchanging numbers she called her KTV and handed me the phone. A gentleman asked me if I enjoyed my time, which I confirmed I did. Most definitely. What great customer service!

Sweet girl, I gave her at 1000 NTD tip, which she seemed overjoyed with. Gave her a kiss and sent her on her way. Def repeat if possible.

So the Taipei KTV is a tough nut to crack -- but can be cracked if you get a Line handler, or have local contacts. Nothing beats someone else paying you to fuck a nine hottie! Pretty sweet!

Travelling to Taipei and it seems the scene there is very different to what I am used to.

Are there any Outcall sites that are legit? Something like escortprivada for Portugal.

Wow, sounds like an awesome experience and an awesome business associate to have! Any clue how much the entire bill was for your associate? From my experience, if you had her the entire night then you're probably looking at the 40 k NT range. If it wasn't that long and she was heading back to work another shift then maybe a little less. But that's from my experience with probably a slightly lower level KTV than your joint, so I dunno. I'm curious if there are better value KTVs in the higher-quality range than what my friends know about. At the same time, I also don't really care to know cause I don't think they're worth it. Unless you've got an awesome business associate.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2838829]
I think my buddy and I were expecting hand jobs at some point, but we should have realized this is a top end place with top end girls (dress or gown shop) and that's not on the menu. That turned out to be fine, because our business associate hooked me up and paid for everything. I didn't know it, but he had arranged (and paid for) my girl to go back to my room with me. At about midnight they put us in a car and sent us on our way. No problem with the hotel -- the night clerk didn't even bat an eye as I walked my girl past and up to the elevators.
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[QUOTE=Jportlis;2840079]Travelling to Taipei and it seems the scene there is very different to what I am used to.

Are there any Outcall sites that are legit? Something like escortprivada for Portugal.[/QUOTE]Usually massagerepublic can be used here. Otherwise if you're ok with Chinese you can find some agents on JKForum, however there might be scams so only pay when the girl arrives.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2834707]I hope others could add to this because by no means am I an expert as to everything that occurs in and around Longshan Temple. My deficiencies in Mandarin limits my full investigation. And, as you probably already know, not being able to speak Chinese and communicate your desires, of course will limit your being able to fully grasp the entire scene, as it has limited me. But, that being said, I really don't need any more than I am getting. I like to move in and out of the zone rather quickly with ease, leaving as little clues as possible.

And, you would do yourself a favor if you go backwards in this thread and read up, because there is a plethora of information in detail to enlighten you on this area.

But, the area is a smorgasbord of sexual activity. Let's leave Xichang / Kangding alone because that is pretty self explanatory. Far less Taiwanese and Mainlanders, and far more other Asian nationals, Thai, Vietnamese, and others. That area is mostly meet in the streets and your 20 minutes. Unless, you talk to one of those male brokers downstairs and they make other arrangements for you, but, I avoid them.

In the Huaxi Market, I have never met other than Taiwanese and Chinese. It seems like the real main event there is other than what I do. I meet girls outside, get straight on my desires and cost, and we go into a little party room and I get what I paid for. Sometimes other girls show up and I either accept of reject. And, you get whatever you desire.

But, being in the elevatored building, I become privy to the main event there. And, I give directions to the elevatored building in this thread earlier. In that building are younger girls than on the street. Music is blaring, and there are parties going on for the benefit of older gents getting soused out of their minds, plenty of girls running down to the liquor store to replenish their glasses, and platters of food, and these girls are attending these drunks' whims, singing, dancing, touching, feeling and so on and so forth.

I don't drink and party anymore, and I just go there for a cheap thrill, and sometimes to really spend some time with a gal I like. I have been with young girls there in their 20's.

As far as more legitimate hotels, other than quick hotels, I have no knowledge of that.

But, I have met girls in the park who have apartments in the area, and I have stayed with them for 2 or 3 hours, and they give me a good rate. One girl there invited me for the night, and fed me, and wanted to travel with me. The night sounded enticing but after 2 or 3 hours, I had enough. She is a marathoner.

That's about all I have. And, possibly the other gents can add more.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Amazake this is a great post.).

May I ask you if the price of the ladies you meet near Huaxi is around 1 K? (for a girl let's say a 7).

As far as their "service", is it overall satisfying or just a cold "quickie"?

Thanks.

Rob.

[QUOTE=SecondBlock;2840589]Amazake this is a great post.).

May I ask you if the price of the ladies you meet near Huaxi is around 1 K? (for a girl let's say a 7).

As far as their "service", is it overall satisfying or just a cold "quickie"?

Thanks.

Rob.[/QUOTE]For that area, the park across the street from Longshan Temple and Huaxi Market, it runs the gamut with respect to quality, but these days, I have not seen real lookers since pre COVID.

I have a 1 k lady that is fit in her late 40's that is only barely a 4 to 5, but she loves me proper and gives me 30 to 40 minutes. I am not complaining. There is nothing cold about it. But that is not the norm. I mean Taipei is no third world city, so 1 k is pretty cheap. The trick is developing an understanding, a relationship, a friendship with a few, and if there is chemistry, you have a good satisfying session for a discount. But, like I said in my last post, I will buy her some fruit or something to show affection and to elevate the level of companionship from a streetwalker to a friend.

But most of the Huaxi ladies are not worthy of rating. I avoid them, unless I find a diamond in the rough.

Kangding for 1. 5 k can be found far better quality. And, again, chemistry can make it a blissful 15 to 20 minute interlude. You can meet a 20 year old lovely there. But, the real lookers don't stay there. Somebody must clue them in to a better market. They usually leave the next day.

If you tent up in a legit massage like I did the other day in that area, the masseuse will take care of you. She approached me. She wanted a 500 NT tip. The massage was good, at 700 NT. But, on a longer massage, a girl just threw in the handy.

It's not a quality mongers' paradise. Sort of just a carnival of thrills.

I am sure some of the boys on this board stay away from that area and opt for a good hour session with a rated young lady from a website and pay the higher price tag. I can see their point.

But, I do like the walk around the carnival, grabbing a snack, and settling down with a lady after walking, comparing, debating and choosing.

Other non legit massage parlors have prettier girls and full service but between the massage and tip, it runs 3 to 4 k.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2840356]Wow, sounds like an awesome experience and an awesome business associate to have! Any clue how much the entire bill was for your associate? From my experience, if you had her the entire night then you're probably looking at the 40 k NT range. If it wasn't that long and she was heading back to work another shift then maybe a little less. But that's from my experience with probably a slightly lower level KTV than your joint, so I dunno. I'm curious if there are better value KTVs in the higher-quality range than what my friends know about. At the same time, I also don't really care to know cause I don't think they're worth it. Unless you've got an awesome business associate.[/QUOTE]Yeah based on what I know it was prob 20 K for the dress shop KTV per head and 20 K for the girl to take out (not overnight). Was very nice to not pay for that!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2838829]Other than massage and street girls, neither of which I fancy, Taipei is a tough nut to crack. Unless you are a local, getting action is a bit difficult. Fortunately I was able to get a Line contact a few years ago from a board member and he was still active. My friend Joe speaks Chinese, so he was able to negotiate a KTV visit.

They have this interesting setup in Taiwan where they refer to the girls and venues as "shops". A uniform shop is C class girls, but with handjob included. And a dress shop or gown shop are progressively more B and A class girls, but there is no in room hanky panky other than lap dances. You might negotiate to take a girl home, but that's separate pricing and quite expensive for pretty girls.

My friend had negotiated a uniform shop visit and it was going to be about NTD 5000 a person. But fortunately something a lot better was in store.

We went out and had a nice dinner with a business associate and his team. And he insisted that we go for "Round 2" (apparently a common euphemism for girl sport in Taiwan) and he would pay the full fare. He took us to an amazing dress / gown shop, where we had a blast.

To be clear there is no "shop" involved. When you go in there is like a night guard who makes sure you are legit and have been referred and you go up the elevator to the club. This was a super high class place -- we were escorted down the hall and into the Karaoke or KTV room, which has a U shaped couch and a big Karaoke setup.

There were 5 or 6 of us and they brought in the girls. There wasn't really a line up like last time, but they were all super hot 8's and 9's so we each got a great looking girl. I was fortunate they wanted to treat me and gave me the best looking one -- amazing model face and natural C cups. A full on 9. And even though they said she doesn't speak English that was wrong. She had quite good English for the bit of interaction we had.

There is a ton of drinking and ton of singing. They asked if we wanted beer or whiskey and we chose the whiskey options. The girls keep your glass constantly filled (not to the top, but always a shots worth) as well as service you with water to make sure you stay hydrated. Lots of hands on thigh and stroking and generally having a great time belting out Chinese and American ballads while getting wasted.

Twice, the music changed and the lights went down and the girls went into full on lap dance mode, including taking their tops offf. Hands on tits and ass is fine and expected. Very sexy and my girl was fine as fuck.

I think my buddy and I were expecting hand jobs at some point, but we should have realized this is a top end place with top end girls (dress or gown shop) and that's not on the menu. That turned out to be fine, because our business associate hooked me up and paid for everything. I didn't know it, but he had arranged (and paid for) my girl to go back to my room with me. At about midnight they put us in a car and sent us on our way. No problem with the hotel -- the night clerk didn't even bat an eye as I walked my girl past and up to the elevators.

In room experience was amazing. This girl is a full on 9 with tight body and amazing firm C cup tits. We both showered and then started grinding and tit work fully naked. A bit of light outside fingering (she seemed hesitant for true FIV so I didn't try) but she was fully wet to the outside, so I know she was in it for real.

We had some truly epic sex and a lot of it because I was pretty wasted. Mish, doggie, cowgirl. In cowgirl there was no question she was getting off. She rode like a girl truly trying to get an O and I think we got her a couple small ones with me pushed up inside deep while she ground it out.

In the end, I proved perilously hard to finish. But she sucked and BLS and handjob and every trick in the book. Finally was able to squirt one out on her tummy watching here finger herself. Nice! A true labor of love.

To top it all off, after a nice cuddle and exchanging numbers she called her KTV and handed me the phone. A gentleman asked me if I enjoyed my time, which I confirmed I did. Most definitely. What great customer service!

Sweet girl, I gave her at 1000 NTD tip, which she seemed overjoyed with. Gave her a kiss and sent her on her way. Def repeat if possible.

So the Taipei KTV is a tough nut to crack -- but can be cracked if you get a Line handler, or have local contacts. Nothing beats someone else paying you to fuck a nine hottie! Pretty sweet![/QUOTE]This was a great experience and you was lucky! Could I ask where this KTV is please? Have you asked your business associate the price for this experience? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2840837]This was a great experience and you was lucky! Could I ask where this KTV is please? Have you asked your business associate the price for this experience? Thanks![/QUOTE]These things depend on the quality of the girls (age, if they can speak English, services they offer, etc). If you can't speak Chinese then your options are limited, and you're looking at 5-10 K for 3 hours in a KTV. That's for 2-3 lapdances, where you can touch their boobs. Some of the girls do allow you to finger them, but it's the exception. Normally university students etc.

If you can speak a little bit of Chinese, or can get away with body language while they sign and play the drinking games, for the same price you can go to a place where you can get a HJ for that same price. Girls might have some tattoos, some might smoke, etc.

Take-out depends on the girl, normally 5-20 K for 1-3 hours depending on the girl, how popular she is, etc.

I'm few weeks late reporting my experience in TPE. Thanks to all the members who shared their experiences and provided insight. Due to work schedule, I did not explore any MP or incall options.

Met 3 girls thru SA and scored one on last night of stay.

SA in TPE is not same as Europe or South America, alot of fakes, flakes and scams. The 3 I met were genuine, all good english speakers and working professionally. No point in discussing other two, so only sticking to score.

I was in contact few weeks before landing, stayed in contact during week and agreed to meet up for drinks after work on last work day. We met at starbucks. I was surprised to see her flaka style body (but again, this is Asia, most of them are short).

The gal was mixed (Taiwanese with some Filipino, grew up in TPE). Working in automation sector of an electronics manufacturer. Around 26 - 27 of age, good natural body, and rock hard glutes and legs (gym work), some plumpiness but I prefer it over man-made body parts.

We had good convo over drinks (Starbucks serving wine. Go figure. LOL) and walked to a nearby restaurant for some American style food. Had some drinks with food there and I brought her back to my hotel room.

No issue at lobby or counter. We both were dressed casually. In room, the things heated up after settling down. Once clothes came off, I saw dark tan lines and we talked about beach experiences while exploring each other bodies.

The first round was quite GFE as we both were hanging out for about 3 hours so had ice broken. Some good DFK and a bit of DATY while running train on her boobs. She got so hot that she was trying to put in her without cover (I kept bigger head in check and put a cover on).

The mish was phenomenal. I bent her legs over her head and pounded her with all the force I had. It was too much but she still took it (albeit very loud). We took a breather and had her on top for good 10 minutes, I wanted to CIM, but she didn't agree to it so unloaded on boobs after peeling rubber off.

After round 1, some GFE style cuddling and body play till we both got ready for round 2. It seems like she was very ok with BBFS idea which alarmed me, though during our conversation, it seems like normal and my limited knowledge in flipina clientele. Nonetheless, I kept my guard and didn't use the option).

She stayed about 4 hours in room and we went on for about 4 times during that, though I couldn't finish after first 2 unloading. I tried scoring greek but that was a hard NO. LOL, I did get a deepthroat out of her during 2nd round though it wasn't her forte.

We parted ways around midnight and I walked her to uber downstairs. Didn't stay in contact afterwards as there's no recurrent travel plans for TPE.

SA continue to delivers, though it turned out to much harder to score in asian market using it.

A sneaky snap to share the body.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;2841094]I'm few weeks late reporting my experience in TPE. Thanks to all the members who shared their experiences and provided insight. Due to work schedule, I did not explore any MP or incall options.

Met 3 girls thru SA and scored one on last night of stay.

SA in TPE is not same as Europe or South America, alot of fakes, flakes and scams. The 3 I met were genuine, all good english speakers and working professionally. No point in discussing other two, so only sticking to score.

I was in contact few weeks before landing, stayed in contact during week and agreed to meet up for drinks after work on last work day. We met at starbucks. I was surprised to see her flaka style body (but again, this is Asia, most of them are short).

The gal was mixed (Taiwanese with some Filipino, grew up in TPE). Working in automation sector of an electronics manufacturer. Around 26 - 27 of age, good natural body, and rock hard glutes and legs (gym work), some plumpiness but I prefer it over man-made body parts.

We had good convo over drinks (Starbucks serving wine. Go figure. LOL) and walked to a nearby restaurant for some American style food. Had some drinks with food there and I brought her back to my hotel room.

No issue at lobby or counter. We both were dressed casually. In room, the things heated up after settling down. Once clothes came off, I saw dark tan lines and we talked about beach experiences while exploring each other bodies.

The first round was quite GFE as we both were hanging out for about 3 hours so had ice broken. Some good DFK and a bit of DATY while running train on her boobs. She got so hot that she was trying to put in her without cover (I kept bigger head in check and put a cover on).

The mish was phenomenal. I bent her legs over her head and pounded her with all the force I had. It was too much but she still took it (albeit very loud). We took a breather and had her on top for good 10 minutes, I wanted to CIM, but she didn't agree to it so unloaded on boobs after peeling rubber off.

After round 1, some GFE style cuddling and body play till we both got ready for round 2. It seems like she was very ok with BBFS idea which alarmed me, though during our conversation, it seems like normal and my limited knowledge in flipina clientele. Nonetheless, I kept my guard and didn't use the option).

She stayed about 4 hours in room and we went on for about 4 times during that, though I couldn't finish after first 2 unloading. I tried scoring greek but that was a hard NO. LOL, I did get a deepthroat out of her during 2nd round though it wasn't her forte.

We parted ways around midnight and I walked her to uber downstairs. Didn't stay in contact afterwards as there's no recurrent travel plans for TPE.

SA continue to delivers, though it turned out to much harder to score in asian market using it.

A sneaky snap to share the body.[/QUOTE]Loved this report.

May I ask you what price did you negotiate with this lady? I never used SA and my perception of it its like a luxury dating site with X2 prices. I might be wrong.

I was also wondering if you could share the actual "in person" interaction with local ladies: were they friendly and approachable in your opinion?

Thanks.

Bye.

Longshan street scene a waste of time—.

Well, not for want of trying, I came to the above conclusion in the title.

I mean, I looked and looked and walked and looked.

I came close with the only one I found doable. She was asking for 2 k. I refuse that price for that brief of an encounter. And, besides, she was no trophy. Just a girl without a gut.

She turns away from me now, as we have reached a stalemate, after we negotiated on three separate occasions. I won't go up and she won't come down.

And, she poisoned the minds of her girlfriends, who have all given themselves a raise as a result of our standoff. I told her that down the block is 1 k. Bad move on my part. It infuriated her.

One of her girlfriends was walking with me, smiling, happy to have a catch as we were walking to our suite, until "the scorned one" shouted out to her friend, my date, to charge me the higher rate. The smile drained from my girl's face and she stopped dead in her tracks, and we parted ways.

"The Scorned One"wants to set a new precedent as far as price. I am holding firm because plenty of girls are very happy with 1. 5 K, and the streets will once again, hopefully, be plentiful, with competition, and plenty willing, happy and willing to take the default standard price of 1. 5. I guess I don't believe in inflation.

2 K for a half hour would be fine. I am not an unreasonable man. However, I am cost conscious. Because there is always tomorrow and tomorrow's tomorrow. We have to row the boat steady. "Que Sera Sera. See'est la vie. " (I'm not French and my Chinese is quite limited).

Anyway, lots of police present and this time they look more serious. Must be looking for illegal residents, because the regulars don't look scared.

I have made attempts on about 5 different occasions. Inventory is depleted. But, business goes on. Guys are taking them upstairs. I think they try to get 2 K for the waiguoren. (foreigners).

I didn't check out Huaxi. There are a few there for about $1100. They are older but well kept. But most are quite matronly. I might have to leave this venue for a while until it regenerates itself.

Also, if any of you guys go to the entrance to the alleys by Guilin Street, there is a red banner with Chinese characters. I never saw it before. It was recently hung. Possibly to do with the Taiwanese Chinese opening of the gates of hell, releasing the ghosts holiday. If any of you read the sign, please report back. Also could be something related to the girls hanging out there.

Sorry. Not a great report. Maybe I'll just go for a Thai massage. Many of the Thai masseuses went to massage institutions to study and receive licenses. They have a wonderful technique. And, who knows? I might get lucky.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2844478]Longshan street scene a waste of time.

Well, not for want of trying, I came to the above conclusion in the title.

I mean, I looked and looked and walked and looked.

I came close with the only one I found doable. She was asking for 2 k. I refuse that price for that brief of an encounter. And, besides, she was no trophy. Just a girl without a gut.

She turns away from me now, as we have reached a stalemate, after we negotiated on three separate occasions. I won't go up and she won't come down.

And, she poisoned the minds of her girlfriends, who have all given themselves a raise as a result of our standoff. I told her that down the block is 1 k. Bad move on my part. It infuriated her.

One of her girlfriends was walking with me, smiling, happy to have a catch as we were walking to our suite, until "the scorned one" shouted out to her friend, my date, to charge me the higher rate. The smile drained from my girl's face and she stopped dead in her tracks, and we parted ways.

"The Scorned One"wants to set a new precedent as far as price. I am holding firm because plenty of girls are very happy with 1. 5 K, and the streets will once again, hopefully, be plentiful, with competition, and plenty willing, happy and willing to take the default standard price of 1. 5. I guess I don't believe in inflation.

2 K for a half hour would be fine. I am not an unreasonable man. However, I am cost conscious. Because there is always tomorrow and tomorrow's tomorrow. We have to row the boat steady. "Que Sera Sera. See'est la vie. " (I'm not French and my Chinese is quite limited).

Anyway, lots of police present and this time they look more serious. Must be looking for illegal residents, because the regulars don't look scared.

I have made attempts on about 5 different occasions. Inventory is depleted. But, business goes on. Guys are taking them upstairs. I think they try to get 2 K for the waiguoren. (foreigners).

I didn't check out Huaxi. There are a few there for about $1100. They are older but well kept. But most are quite matronly. I might have to leave this venue for a while until it regenerates itself.

Also, if any of you guys go to the entrance to the alleys by Guilin Street, there is a red banner with Chinese characters. I never saw it before. It was recently hung. Possibly to do with the Taiwanese Chinese opening of the gates of hell, releasing the ghosts holiday. If any of you read the sign, please report back. Also could be something related to the girls hanging out there.

Sorry. Not a great report. Maybe I'll just go for a Thai massage. Many of the Thai masseuses went to massage institutions to study and receive licenses. They have a wonderful technique. And, who knows? I might get lucky.[/QUOTE]Was wondering how you are doing, as it's been a while since you posted. Good luck at the MP.

[QUOTE=SecondBlock;2842088]May I ask you what price did you negotiate with this lady? I never used SA and my perception of it its like a luxury dating site with X2 prices. I might be wrong.
[/QUOTE]I have tried to think of what this means but haven't come up with anything. SA?

[QUOTE=Exile;2844595]I have tried to think of what this means but haven't come up with anything. SA?[/QUOTE]Seeking arrangement a sugar babe site.

[QUOTE=Exile;2844595]I have tried to think of what this means but haven't come up with anything. SA?[/QUOTE]I heard of the two letter term before but never quite got it. Found this definition and discovered that it is more or less, higher priced ladies looking to hook up. I guess it implies a deeper more intimate relationship than the common types. You get to know them on a deeper level, dinners, et cetera. Below is a definition that I found via internet.

"SA.

SA is short for Seduction Abduction, a term coined during the summer of 2009 as a means to describe a desire to abduct, then seduce, actor Jackson Rathbone. Since, SA has morphed into a society for single, vampy ladies ferociously going after men of their choosing. It is a source of support and inspiration for the sexually frustrated and emotionally deprived. ".

"SA is also a rallying cry similar to 'you go, girl. '.

"I'm going to see the ginger tomorrow!

"Woo! SA SA SA!

[QUOTE=Amazake;2844733]I heard of the two letter term before but never quite got it. Found this definition and discovered that it is more or less, higher priced ladies looking to hook up. I guess it implies a deeper more intimate relationship than the common types. You get to know them on a deeper level, dinners, et cetera. Below is a definition that I found via internet.

"SA.

SA is short for Seduction Abduction, a term coined during the summer of 2009 as a means to describe a desire to abduct, then seduce, actor Jackson Rathbone. Since, SA has morphed into a society for single, vampy ladies ferociously going after men of their choosing. It is a source of support and inspiration for the sexually frustrated and emotionally deprived. ".

"SA is also a rallying cry similar to 'you go, girl. '.

"I'm going to see the ginger tomorrow!

"Woo! SA SA SA![/QUOTE]SA means seeking arrangement. These days they just refer to themselves as seeking.

It's a sugar daddy website where you pay for the time of the girl with gifts.

[QUOTE=SecondBlock;2842088]Loved this report.

May I ask you what price did you negotiate with this lady? I never used SA and my perception of it its like a luxury dating site with X2 prices. I might be wrong.

I was also wondering if you could share the actual "in person" interaction with local ladies: were they friendly and approachable in your opinion?

Thanks.

Bye.[/QUOTE]I gave her 6 k. I usually don't talk price when scoping girls / getting them to meet in person nor discuss it prior to getting in bed. The forum data and talking to girl usually give enough reference for me to know what I will pay. It works out always for me but everyone have their own game. The time spent together and in bed is enough to justify the cost IMO.

My local interactions with girls were basic, I found it reserved compare to Europe or South americas where I usually monger. Spoke to some college girls on tiktok and usual caps in Starbucks kinda place. They were usual 20-22 year old with westernized mentality but not 'friendly 'enough. Take time but you can hook it with some game. Language barrier was not too much as English is widely spoken and understood.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2721022]Not sure if Fish Spa takes foreigners but they're pretty "public" online in Chinese if you know where to look. Set up similar to the Saunas like Tianlong Suana etc, Fish Spa is pay first then select a woman and go into a back room. Located on Linsen in one of the older tall buildings, the "Spa" requires an appointment to get pass the door. Appointments are made with the "ganbu"(Pimp / handler) and you report the name of the Ganbu to get in. Once in, you pay 2600 and wait for your number to be called. Either you're lead to a parade of women, or you already have one reserved with the Ganbu.

Appointments last 1 hour. For new customers, the first few times will only be half service. I've been a few times now and I drop a 1 k tip and get full service + GFE experience and 1 CIM.

Been too many times, and I kind of want to keep my special lady to myself so I'll review / post about another.

Location: Fish Spa on Linsen.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

Someone can give me the address of the fish spa? I tried to find the information on google by typing in Chinese but no success.

I've read Filler17's post too and I found nothing when I type "he massage" in Chinese, I think I'm doing something wrong.

"Satisfactory," but nothing to write home about.

I know that I vowed to look past Longshan Temple, and go for a Thai Massage, but habit pulled me wayward. (as it usually does).

In some schools they give an "S" for "satisfactory" which is not all that bad. And, that's what Ms. Thai (alias) gets for last night's performance at the woefully lacking Longshan Temple scene.

Ms. Thai, who I fully enjoyed on a prior occasion, was just played-out, tired, uninspired and guarded.

That tight fit, her hallmark, that I enjoyed on my prior visit, was excruciating to her on this visit. And, I am not "THE JOLLY GREEN GIANT! (But, trust me, I was very aware of her limited capacity and treated her quite humanely).

But, the girl hung in there, and, thus, the "S" for all her effort. But, never again.

It must be difficult to put out a stellar performance time and time again for these girls.

And, most interestingly, probably because I was "backed up" quite a bit, striking out at Longshan on a number of occasions, I did leave quite fulfilled. Although, out of compassion for the gal, she had to resort to her trusty hand to finish the job.

Upon completion, I gave her a very lovely Shakespearean kiss on the out-stretched hand for "milady," to which she blushed, curtsied, and giggled.

Because, even though a lackluster performance, and myself experiencing the dreaded "back up, extended sexual deprivation, causing a slow release) the result was extremely gratifying and healing, until this very moment.

(One or more of you might have heard this monger howling a very loud, continuous satisfying moan, that sounded like "THE JOLLY GREEN GIANT. " I feared the police would issue a "disturbing the peace" warrant. And, let's just say that the "abundant" clean-up probably took longer than the actual act itself).

Hats off to our little trooper, although under the weather, or somehow unable to functionally expand her nether region to her utmost, she got the job done under the most trying of circumstances. And, we did lube and lube time and time again, but to no avail. And, the girl hung in there past the buzzer to make sure I didn't hit the streets craving another body like a crazed rabid prowling hyena.

And, also, because of my, let's just say "maturity," instead of "age", (it sounds more classy) and the age of these young ladies, I can understand and adjust to almost anything, with the exception of deceit, fraud and nastiness. So, I really understood her plight on the job, having been forced to work, myself, while exhausted and uninspired.

So, it was once again a satisfying outing at the Longshan Temple, followed by a trip to Yangmingshan for a few dips in the hot springs and some steam and sauna.

"All's well that ends well. ".

Before the intel report: thanks again to the posters on this forum for the trove of information. It was extremely helpful in getting the ball rolling during my Taipei stay.

I've been exclusively a Mexico and Colombia guy (mostly due to geographic proximity), but found myself in Taiwan on business for a week long trip. Extended the trip a few days to see what the scene was like and get my first taste of Asian woman.

I didn't want to deal with the navigating the forums and setting up dates, and instead went the Longshan Temple route. While I did find some ladies on Kangding, Guangzhou, and in Bangka Park (across from Longshan Temple, most of the working women (and, for the matter, most of the attractive woman) were located on Xichang Street, a small alley between Guilin and Guandzhou. As others have mentioned, the Chinese and Taiwanese woman tend to be on the older side, while the Thai and Vietnamese woman tend to go younger. Woman are on both sides of Xichang Street and appeared to group into clusters based on nationality and age. Prices ranged from $1600 to $2000 for a shot (20-30 min), with the higher end likely being quoted for westerner's like me. Looks of the woman were not on the higher side (I'd say in the 5-6 range on average), but some gems can always be found (more on that in my second post). As to where the deed happens, the woman used shared apartment rooms on the various buildings on Xichang Street. Once you choose a lady, she will take you up to the shared room (either walking up some stairs or elevator), have you pay upfront, have you shower (the showers are not really showers per se, but shower heads with a drain on the floor), and then proceed with the deed. All rooms have condoms, lube, and lotion equipped. The woman are semi-hardasses about the time, but you can over a few minutes without any issues. The clientele is (from what I saw) appeared very local. A range of ages of men, from younger looking to retirees, appeared to partake.

On my first night, walked around for roughly 30 min around 7 pm to see what the scene looked like. There were about 15-20 woman in the Longshan Temple area, and I found a group of good looking Thai girls that caught my eye. Unfortunately, I had forgotten my wallet on this walk through, and by the time that I returned around 9 pm with cash on hand, the group of Thai girls were gone. But no worries. I found another Thai girl, albeit a bit less attractive, that caught my eye. Taller than most Thai's and had an amazing body. We negotiated 2 K for 45 min. She took me up to her room and had me wash up. She was fairly new to the game, and I was her first Westerner customer. Curiously for me (even though I consider myself fairly averaged sized down below), she thought I was huge down below and asked me to start slower. I obliged and we started the session slowly and sensually. No kissing on the lips, but she showered my chest and cheeks with kisses and pulled me into her with a light, but forceful pull. After a bit, she started getting more use to my size and the motion started to go faster and deeper. We went through many positions, and she was very attentive to all my directions. I finished in her arms with a few minutes left to spare. I showered off and we parted ways.

No complaints with her performance, especially given the initial size limitations. But there are plenty of fish in the sea, and I will likely look for other on my next romp.

I went back to the Longshan area around 3 pm on my second day. Given the time and given the temperature (it was hot and sticky out), there were not many fish swimming around to pick up. And those who were generally much older and / or not my type. Instead, I settled for massage at a "massage parlor" located on Kangding. There are about 3-4 of them between Guilin and Guangzhou, and typically each parlor has one woman on the outside "cat-calling" customers to come inside. I chose a Chinese woman, in her 30's. She was cute and slender, and asked $1200 for an hour massage (which is pricey, but I was exploring and sorta got rushed into the price without really considering it). She took me to a hidden back room and undressed me. She started with a mediocre back massage for around 20 minutes. Too much pressure and not enough focus on my butt area. We then flipped. I am new to the Asian massage parlor experience, but I had thought the $1200 included a "happy ending. " (If I had known otherwise, I would have definitely not agreed to that price). But I was wrong, and she asked for an additional $800 for a covered blowjob and handjob to completion. Sex was not on the table with her. With my penis already in her hands at that point, it was hard to say no and proceed with a regular massage at that point. Oh well. I negotiated down to $1800 (probably could have gone down more, but her English and my Chinese were not great), and she proceeded with a covered BJ into a decent, lubed up HJ. She put on a good performance, and definitely had experience in the HJ department. I finished into a towel, and she cleaned me up. The session was good in the sense that it was good intel gathering and was my first massage parlor experience, but not worth the $1800 that I shelled out.

After the massage, I rested up for a few hours, and then went back around 730 pm to the Xichang street area to see what fish I could find. The prospects on Xichang were of the same quality and quantity of my previous night. While I was scoping the scene and deciding on who to choose, I ended up striking a conversation with a local man who frequents Xichang after work. He spoke great English and was extremely kind with his time and information. He asked if I was interested in younger Vietnamese and Thai woman than those that were on Xichang. I replied "Yes," without hesitation. He then proceeded to take my to an alley off of Xichang street, between Xichang and Kangding, and brought to an older "matriarch," Taiwanese woman who was clearly running some type of operation. The matriarch then took me into the back alley buildings and up an elevator to the 7th floor. The floor was filled with one bedroom apartment rooms, each with a young, hot Vietnamese or Thai woman inside. Many were already occupied, but she ended up showing me 4 rooms. Upon knocking on each room, a young nubile were present herself at the door, and the matriarch would ask if I was interested. I decided to go Thai again, and picked a young, beautiful Thai spinner (also: the Thai girls, for the most part, also speak English, which is extremely helpful. The Vietnamese less so. So that might have influenced my decision too). The experience was similar to the previous night: she had me wash up, and then proceeded into a deep BBBJ. She was receptive to taking me all the way down her throat, and gave great eye contact. She then put on a cover and immediately got on and rode me. We cycled through the positions, and I finished in her arms right as the clock hit zero. Damage was higher than the street: 2000 K for 25 min. But worth the price.

I have struck out at Longshan Temple / Xichang Market / Kangding Road / and vicinity, recently, more times than Babe Ruth swingin' for the fence. (he had a lot of home runs, but an inordinate amount of strikeouts, too).

I am leaning towards a conspiracy theory amongst the small Thais. Recently, they flat out refuse me. Word must have gotten back that I like to take my time. The bigger gals don't mind me. They flirt and welcome my business. But, the smaller girls seem to be intimidated by me. I am not overweight or anything. But I do like my petites.

So, I was about to call it quits, and I spotted a tall shy, terribly bashful, blushing bean sprout Taiwanese. She was by herself, not amongst the foreign girls. Not the youngest but well-kept, maybe 38. Pretty, long hair, thin, barely breasts, but nice hips. She appeared flattered to accept my advances. A total surprise and a most welcome change of events.

Her room was clean, larger, large bed, well-appointed room, a livable space. The common room was surprisingly well decorated with some nice traditional furniture.

Again, very shy and very approachable, like a girlfriend. So relaxed. We both were amazingly unrushed and comfortable. There was a commonality where we met, amidst the dichotomy of our body structures. She, rail thin, and myself, broader, muscular.

She was slow, calm, gentle and liked to be loved. A lover. She wanted love, comfort, pleasure, relationship. We just got comfortable with each other, like we were on a first date, and we liked each other and no reason to rush. A sincere desire to enjoy this experience.

Once we got started, though, she liked a good spirited give-and-take on the seesaw, but on the gentler side. She wanted to kiss. I was surprised. So we kissed. Then she realized that we are not supposed to. So, we stopped, but did it again. Like fighting off the very natural consequence of making love, which is kissing. We were crossing the line between business and a promising relationship.

The kissing was the spark that ignited the session. We really enjoyed the union. Nice. Very, very nice.

She never lubed. Instead, wanted to be caressed until her juices flowed quite naturally. No rush.

Went past the time limit.

She trusted me. I just made myself at home. Used her alcohol and napkins before and after.

We parted with a straight up lover's hug and a kiss. Nice glossy lipstick. I usually avoid kissing because of mucus membranes carrying viruses but she was irresistible.

A very nice, gentle, lovely lady. Never saw her before but she said she is there often.

Lost in the "amore" of the moment. I forgot to get her name and number.

What a difference mutual respect and compatibility makes in a session.

Some of those other primadonna brats think too much of themselves. Not all. But I have been deprived a loving exchange for quite a while. Thank God my slump has ended. I was losing confidence. Confidence restored.

1500 NT. Money very well spent. No regrets. Like money invested in my health and emotional wellbeing.

During the love play, testing the waters, I gave her bottom a few loud spanks in the excitement of it all. (it was quite a spankable bottom) She giggled and appreciated one or two, but let me know when I overdid it. I immediately nixed with the embellishments.

Left quite satisfied.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2848741]I have struck out at Longshan Temple / Xichang Market / Kangding Road / and vicinity, recently, more times than Babe Ruth swingin' for the fence. (he had a lot of home runs, but an inordinate amount of strikeouts, too).

I am leaning towards a conspiracy theory amongst the small Thais. Recently, they flat out refuse me. Word must have gotten back that I like to take my time. The bigger gals don't mind me. They flirt and welcome my business. But, the smaller girls seem to be intimidated by me. I am not overweight or anything. But I do like my petites.

So, I was about to call it quits, and I spotted a tall shy, terribly bashful, blushing bean sprout Taiwanese. She was by herself, not amongst the foreign girls. Not the youngest but well-kept, maybe 38. Pretty, long hair, thin, barely breasts, but nice hips. She appeared flattered to accept my advances. A total surprise and a most welcome change of events.

Her room was clean, larger, large bed, well-appointed room, a livable space. The common room was surprisingly well decorated with some nice traditional furniture.

Again, very shy and very approachable, like a girlfriend. So relaxed. We both were amazingly unrushed and comfortable. There was a commonality where we met, amidst the dichotomy of our body structures. She, rail thin, and myself, broader, muscular.

She was slow, calm, gentle and liked to be loved. A lover. She wanted love, comfort, pleasure, relationship. We just got comfortable with each other, like we were on a first date, and we liked each other and no reason to rush. A sincere desire to enjoy this experience.

Once we got started, though, she liked a good spirited give-and-take on the seesaw, but on the gentler side. She wanted to kiss. I was surprised. So we kissed. Then she realized that we are not supposed to. So, we stopped, but did it again. Like fighting off the very natural consequence of making love, which is kissing. We were crossing the line between business and a promising relationship.

The kissing was the spark that ignited the session. We really enjoyed the union. Nice. Very, very nice.

She never lubed. Instead, wanted to be caressed until her juices flowed quite naturally. No rush.

Went past the time limit.

She trusted me. I just made myself at home. Used her alcohol and napkins before and after.

We parted with a straight up lover's hug and a kiss. Nice glossy lipstick. I usually avoid kissing because of mucus membranes carrying viruses but she was irresistible.

A very nice, gentle, lovely lady. Never saw her before but she said she is there often.

Lost in the "amore" of the moment. I forgot to get her name and number.

What a difference mutual respect and compatibility makes in a session.

Some of those other primadonna brats think too much of themselves. Not all. But I have been deprived a loving exchange for quite a while. Thank God my slump has ended. I was losing confidence. Confidence restored.

1500 NT. Money very well spent. No regrets. Like money invested in my health and emotional wellbeing.

During the love play, testing the waters, I gave her bottom a few loud spanks in the excitement of it all. (it was quite a spankable bottom) She giggled and appreciated one or two, but let me know when I overdid it. I immediately nixed with the embellishments.

Left quite satisfied.[/QUOTE]Great story! One day we should have you give us a tour of the area, and we can pick off ladies together.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2848997]Great story! One day we should have you give us a tour of the area, and we can pick off ladies together.[/QUOTE]Maybe Amazake should start an erotic tour of Taipei package on Klook.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2848997]Great story! One day we should have you give us a tour of the area, and we can pick off ladies together.[/QUOTE]Thanks, AsiaFever, as always for your input.

Not sure that I am qualified to be a monger tour guide. Probably not something that I would be proud to add to my resume. (my poor mother and father would turn over in their graves).

But, I can write a bit, and I beg the indulgence of all for yet another long winded reply.

But, men, PLEASE feel free to express your opinions and styles with respect to this subject. We all love to learn from your vast and varied experiences on this most important subject that rivets our attention.

I have learned much from reading these threads, and from you guys, and from the fine men that have left great, grand, highly specific and informative posts from yesteryear, here for posterity. I am forever grateful to you all, and to them. Unbelievably, posts from over 20 years ago leave roadmaps that are still highly pertinent and valuable.

In my outings, I never stick to any specific plan, unless if you consider being flexible to be a specific plan. I am not very sophisticated at all. Minimal intelligence, but more dependent on intuition, spontaneity, and the art of waiting, watching, striking or retreating. Sort of like "The Tao of Mongering. Probably a bit sacrilegious to combine those two concepts in one sentence, but I am just being as truthful as possible.

I just sort of meander around under the cover of night, (but, daylight, also) avoiding the blue suits (law enforcement) and trying to make a score.

It's embarrassing to tell you how many times I abort the mission, and instead, buy a brick of pu'ehr tea from an old vendor on the street, off of his beach blanket, or buy some fruit, and head out to a Yangmingshan Thermal Valley for a hot soak and to forget my obsessive compulsion for a couple of hours.

Somewhere between those hot bath dips of 46 C-48 C and the ensuing cold plunges in the recovery pools, the obsession with women disappears.

At Wanhua, I also find it fulfilling enough to enter the temple or chat with a few street walkers, ride a bike surveying the happenings in this enclave lost to time, sampling street food, observing the myriad happenings of the peoples of Wanhua. (I do get plenty of light aerobic exercise from these outings, walking and biking, not to mention the deed itself, when I score).

I even delight in watching the generosity of a bakery or other commercial food establishment, distributing food off the trucks to the homeless population in the park across from Longshan Temple. Many seem to care for the homeless. They are not emaciated, but well-fed. Sometimes a Buddhist organization distributes nice vegetarian lunch boxes to the homeless. A homeless gentleman offered to procure a lunch box for me. I declined, but realized that my old shorts and t-shirt might have caused him to think I was a member of the homeless congregation. The next day, I replenished my wardrobe with a new stylish wardrobe to avoid any further confusion. Could be another reason why some girls turned me down. (LOL).

I like to just take in the vibe and old world charm of this vibrant "Wanhua. " Sometimes, I just go for a cheap massage in a legit place with no guarantee of a happy ending. I always find it incredibly amusing to see how the masseuse will address the "tepee" in my shorts. Some just ignore it, and others help me out and love the extra unexpected tip.

As far as the street girls, I intentionally strike out if I don't intuit something special about to happen in my encounters with one of these ladies. I have concluded that "nothing" is far better than a subpar performance. For myself, USUALLY, it is not about a desperate release. (because I am ambidextrous, if you catch my innuendo) I need some true relatedness. Why go there to be ignored. (my home, unfortunately has enough of that) We go there for something special, and we should find a good opportunity to create a special experience, and cross it off the bucket list.

But, then again, it depends on my mood. If I am raging with hormones, and not quite so spiritual, with fire in my eyes like burning coals, there is no way I am leaving without an encounter, and almost anything will do, within reason, of course. I am sure that you and the fellas can relate, in that we all have a variety of moods and personalities within ourselves that need to be addressed.

Even those tearooms for 1 k, can be quite fulfilling. It is good to know some cheap discounted common ladies over there as backup. They are willing to work hard for their old loyal customer, and, I swear to God, although not spring chickens, some of them are energetic fine satisfying mates. But, you must let them know that you are in command and your needs. Those girls in particular need to know who the boss is. They can be master manipulators. But, once they know you, they can be very loyal and attentive providers.

But, I will tell you in all honesty and sincerity, when you attune yourself to wanting what is best for you, and not just another release, you will be more nurtured and satisfied.

We all do this for the ultimate goal of happiness, and we don't want to let anything sabotage that fulfillment.

Just my two cents. How about yours?

[QUOTE=Analyzer123;2849257]Maybe Amazake should start an erotic tour of Taipei package on Klook.[/QUOTE]Funny story. About five years ago, I saw a tour guide in the Kangding alleys with about 7 or 8 blonde westerners trailing behind him, hanging on every word of his musings and pontifications about the brothel system.

The poor working girls sere stunned to be part of this spectacle like they were exotic animals in the local zoo, being gawked at for amusement as the downtrodden being viewed by the more fortunates.

I knew little about the area at that time, and was almost tempted to trail behind within earshot to pick up any pointers. But, I felt out of place, not being blonde. (LOL).

After consistently striking out at Longshan, I was headed to another jurisdiction, but ran out of time, and ended up, as usual, at the Wanhua scene.

Went down to the third level underground where there is a Wanhua Cultural Center. Very interesting. Many things to observe there. Even a sort of native music restaurant with live singers. And a store with possibly like ancestral, tribal, aboriginal games and activities. (non-sexual, of course, since the ground level has that subject well covered).

I thought that since I go so often to the area, I should be aware of happenings other than mongering. Nobody seems to know much about this underground area and there is barely any business. But, it is a huge space with many new and clean stores. I did not have the time to fully explore it, because natural urges were rising from within. But, I will revisit this very interesting area in the future.

Did my stroll in the Xichang Market and Kangding Alleys. I was definitely partaking tonight. So, even if she was a second-rate rejected no-go last week, as the night was wearing down, she was getting the call out of the bullpen and all responsibility to close the game would be in her hands.

But, in the meantime, I looked, noticed, browsed. Bought some fruit and tea. Sometimes good bargains in the market.

A cute Thai waved me in. Another called me "strongman," and hit me with her fan while the other girls laughed. One told me her price was $1000 US Dollars and laughed. I guess it was like "open mic at the improv night" in the Kangding alleys. Everybody was sort of poking fun at me. I did enjoy the attention and positive energy.

Of noteworthiness, today, for some reason, I wore a very bright smile. It really opened doors in their reaction to me. But, alas, nothing really worth my attention and money. But, like I said, I was pretty desperate, and some lucky lady was going to have all her dreams come true, LOL. (or nightmares).

It is also worth noting that in my last strikeout visits, they were mostly at night. But, on this occasion, it was a bit earlier.

The main reason that I was considering not going to XiChang / Kangding any longer is because on a previous night, even the girls I wouldn't take for free were asking for 2 K. And, not just from me. I got up close and listened to conversations between the girls and men of all shapes and sizes, young men, old men, Asian men and foreign men. 2 K seemed to be the going rate. And, I watched many guys, upon hearing 2 K, just smile and walk away. I am of the same opinion. I just won't pay 2 K in this jurisdiction. Preposterous! (nice word).

But, then again, if you are overflowing with expendable cash, and she is young, pretty, and worth it, the extra $500 NT spike to match the inevitable rise to the current price is meaningless, unless you are a spendthrift, or going a bit too often. (hence, yours truly).

In my last successful outing prior to my string of strikeouts, I met a wonderfully nice Taiwanese girl and I have been looking for her ever since, but to no avail.

So, today, I approached a looker who I believe refused me on a prior occasion when I was unaccompanied by my companions, namely, my friendly smile and a less serious demeanor. I conversed with her about my prior date and she could not assist me. This actual sincere inquiry and conversation on the street set the stage to somehow get to know each other. She wasn't flirty. A bit more stoic. Didn't know if she would loosen up, upstairs. But, she, undeniably was a very good looking, well taken care of, well dressed, hygienically clean, quite appealing, graceful tall and slim young lady.

So, I asked about her own availability and offered her my standard rate, and she agreed.

On the walk upstairs, before entering the room, I started testing the waters with a few reach outs and light pawings, a nibble or two to test her reaction. Surprisingly, a giggle or two, revealing that she is not a "beautiful prude. ".

Definitely not as openly playful and surrendered as my prior date, but much younger. Looked like mid to late 20's. More serious, and more business-like. A bit of conceit because she is used to being admired her whole life. Less lenient than my last girl, in that she preferred to not be incessantly fondled and hands and fingers were banned from her nether openings, and no kissing.

My prior girl was open to almost everything and relished all.

So, my date started with kissing and caressing my body, followed by a covered BJ with much affection, and attention.

I just laid there on the bed with many pillows that she strategically arranged all around me, and under me, propping me up, enabling myself to observe her work. (this girl likes pillows, a sign of a certain amount of appreciation for accentuation, along with their very important practical application in bedroom arts and skills).

The girl concentrated and devoted herself to her profession and the task at hand. She allowed her own enjoyment to consume her to the point where she entered into her own rapturous soliloquy, at about a ratio of 90/10. Myself being the "10," her knowing that I was all set and a stable horse fixture in her cowgirl ride, setting her free to devote the remaining "90" percent to her privacy of her own experience. (quantum physics).

After preliminaries, she worked hard and rode hard, desirous to fulfill her orgasmic achievement. Multiple positions, and we worked together well.

Her body and appearance was really a thing of beauty. Nothing slutty about her. Dressed in an evening gown of sorts, and just oozed respectability, evening dinner in a fine restaurant with wine.

I wrote my description of her earlier, so I will include it into the body of this report now:

"Very Stately, Tall, Thin, Reserved, but expressive, relatable, friendly-enough, (but, a bit introverted) sexy, Statuesque, Long Haired Taiwanese Beauty. ".

She did have some work done on her rack, but. But. But, very tastefully done. I can attest that her surgeon was board certified in the finest techniques. Truly a Rembrandt. And, not overdone or embellished upon disproportionately. Her skilled surgeon, in consort with her desires, restored her beautiful matching pair to the original set given her by God and nature. And, she loved having them admired and sharing touching them together. There was that extra solidity when the breast was fully cupped and pressed, so we squeezed together more gently, working around the natural consequence of artificiality.

Ended up eventually in standard missionary with her magical work with pillows, allowing for her optimal angle of entry to create a smooth entry and optimal pleasure. (smart girl).

Afterwards, we sat and talked a bit with no rush to get me out. However, she had no English, and my Chinese sounds like Tarzan speaking to Jane, boy and monkey. (sadly, most of you are far too young to remember the original black and white Tarzan movies).

I expressed my extreme happiness to meet her and she echoed that sentiment.

It was an extremely satisfying encounter. Very wholistic in a sense because there was a very sober respect, mutual holding hands and squeezing, and a feeling of relatedness between a man and a woman. Nothing left to be desired for.

Longshan has far less beauties than a few years ago. So, "diamonds" must be sought out with more time and effort. Such is life.

Thank you.

Met up with a girl in the Kangding alleys that I knew previously.

This was literally like a sequel to our last performance. It was wonderful. "Getting to know you," was out of the way. Intricate memory of what worked best last time and what was mediocre was instantly recalled.

And, without speaking, as if previously the choreographing made it to the final script, we just jumped right in with full awareness and enthusiasm. We never came up for air. We went right to "the best of" our last encounter.

She likes to be pleasured and loved in her own way, so she took the lead to get what pleased her most. And, if she is happy, her enthusiasm overflows and I became the happy recipient.

Or a better analogy was that the previous encounter was a dressed— excuse me — an "undressed rehearsal," where all the mistakes got ironed-out, and this was the real deal performance.

Before finding her, as always," I did "the stroll. " I knew it would be a good night when one of the girls called me 老26495; lao ban. (boss) I'm finally getting some respect. (unlike Rodney Dangerfield, RIP) (LOL).

I almost jumped in with a few that I half-liked. That often turns out badly. Glad that I waited.

But, in my strolls, I witnessed a funny occurrence. An older gent, a local, was doing' "the stroll," also, in front of me.

He meandered in front of a waiting group of gals, focused in on the sexiest one who was sporting a high midriff, tickled her belly, and gave her a nice pat on the fanny. (That really takes a set of cast iron balls and a cavalier swagger. Or, maybe he had a pint or two under his belt).

I was flabbergasted by his audacity. Never would I even attempt such a maneuver. She sort of smiled at the harmless old boy and went back to her vape.

She was a Thai, and gave all due respect to an elderly gentleman's age, and his status of a local country resident.

Now, that guy, and not myself, is worthy of the title "32769;26495; lao ban. " (boss).

But, I have to admit, boys, I am a happy man. The session was wonderful, straightforward pounding and a genuine affection and mutual respect.

What more can be hoped for in one of these encounters?

Not a lot of options on JFK for Shilin, also can't really tell if the non-chain spas in the area are he or legit. Anyone with recommendations? Will be staying in the area for about a month so would prefer somewhere really close.

[QUOTE=Kimochidesu;2855388]Not a lot of options on JFK for Shilin, also can't really tell if the non-chain spas in the area are he or legit. Anyone with recommendations? Will be staying in the area for about a month so would prefer somewhere really close.[/QUOTE]Take the MRT down to Minquan West (where red crosses orange for the first time) and take the orange line one stop to Zhongshan Elementary School.

That is Spa central.

A tip for quick finds: just type "erotic massage" in google maps and you'll find any reported erotic massage parlor in your area. Not every area will have it but many outer ones do. Note: 99% of them will be with Viet girls. Most will only do HJ, some nudity from the girls side (YMMV), or a BJ. Don't expect FS there. Though I have been lucky in some after some time. The advantage for me is to find something quickly in my area and get a decent massage plus extras. Plus I prefer being in a spa with a proper shower.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2855504]Take the MRT down to Minquan West (where red crosses orange for the first time) and take the orange line one stop to Zhongshan Elementary School.

That is Spa central.[/QUOTE]From there you've go south of the E-W yellow line. The area is the red-lightish linsen. But the spas as not easy to score in, for foreigners, IME. Many of them, like Eunice spa, are full professional.

"Thai nymphomaniac" in Wanhua.

Take me on my word on this one, gentlemen, without exaggeration, the girl was a thoroughbred! A credit to her gender. Seeing her curves in the room mirror with my paws all over her was an erotic fantasy. Until we turned, revealing myself, and the fantasy became a nightmare.

As the Moon Festival fast approaches, the Mid-Autumn Gods smiled upon me, possibly for some good deeds or charities performed, because this lovely sweet nymph Thai fulfilled me tonight.

Her memory impinges itself deep into my psyche. Her stunning bedroom prowess totally belies her charming gleeful shrinking-violet, alley-appearance. A true "vixen" in every sense of the word, but a warm-hearted, kind one, at that.

I am still in awe and shock of her raw unrelenting thrusting speed and power. The next morning I am still vibrating from the onslaught of her unleashed sheer feminine energy.

I hung in there mesmerized by her beautiful orgasmic volcanic eruptions. She resembled a steam driven locomotive blowing her siren at top speed.

And, and, and, a nice sweet, appreciative, loving, kind demeanor, but with a pent-up robust, sexual energy that few can match.

The charming Thai nymphomaniac mounted me on the side of the bed, she was almost instantly wet. Dispensed with unnecessary foreplay, save for some light kisses, and grabbing hold of that derrière gifted to her by the goddess "Venus. " Thick, juicy and turbo powered.

And in that cowgirl position, eventually lying back in the bed, she held me blissfully hostage, united as one in the saddle, as she rode and rode and rode. For the finale, she reached for a gear so stealthy and grease lightening-like, I felt doomed to succumb to her rapture.

We lay together for a while, and she appreciated all accolades heaped upon her by me, with a deep sense of Thai folded-hands humility.

We showered, dressed, and she told me that she was going home and these were her remaining hours of her shift and her stay. She misses home and really misses Thai food. She needs her extremely hot spicy Thai fare, and Taiwanese spice doesn't even come close.

She wanted to walk down together and talk as she met her friends in the alleys and her friends were giggling with her, asking how it went, and she gave them a good report. That bodes well for me in the future, getting the word out that "Amazake" is a decent fellow and treats the ladies right. A little credibility goes a long way.

I have had, recently, some wonderful, delightful, extremely fulfilling experiences in Wanhua. Albeit from a wide variety of nationalities and temperaments. But, the underlying theme has been, aside from the girls being attractive, they have all been malleable in their behavior, and all have sincerely focused whatever traits they possess to offering them to me for my pleasure and theirs, also. In other words, it seems best to allow them to reveal their best qualities and fully display them, rather than for me to go into my routine.

And, in choosing from the streets, aside from, of course, choosing beautiful ladies, equally as important is paying attention to their eyes and body language and dating only those that show an openness and comfortability, with myself, a matching chemistry.

I have made mistakes in the past by choosing the aesthetically best looking with no mutual chemistry, and I have suffered the consequences of a subpar session. So, I try to focus very closely on compatibility when choosing now.

This girl from purely looks, body and face, smiling in the alley, looked like the girl next door. I never expected such an amazingly powerful experience from her. I needed a good meal and a hot latte after that one. I was in The Twilight Zone.

I asked if she had a boyfriend or was married. She told me that relationships are boring. Yeah, I mean with that kind of a sex drive, not many men could constantly feed that unquenchable fire.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2856167]"Thai nymphomaniac" in Wanhua.

I asked if she had a boyfriend or was married. She told me that relationships are boring. Yeah, I mean with that kind of a sex drive, not many men could constantly feed that unquenchable fire.[/QUOTE]Wonderful story as always, may you have a fantastic festival weekend.

I met a cute Thai in the park in front of the great temple, Longshan. Sort of a block or two contrary to the Thai's jurisdiction. She ventured out and was hanging out in the Taiwanese and Mainlanders' neighborhood. A bit odd. Made her look more exotic.

So, of course, dopey here, (me) just can't pass up the opportunity to experience something "novel," and had to investigate.

And, investigate I did. The conversation was excellent. And, for a few brief sentences, she appeared to have a wonderful command of the English language. Unfortunately, in the room, her English vanished, and I don't speak Thai. But, then again, language is never a barrier in the activities between men and women. The primal language always seems to be simple and straightforward.

She certainly was cute enough, very small, early 20's. We enjoyed a nice walk together to the room in the rain. But, in the room, she wasn't playful. He body was actually stiff, no wiggle and spring. Not that she wasn't cooperative. Just that, besides being cute, she was deficient in that exuberant, cat-like, primal sexual energy that I have grown to love and expect. And, she didn't have much of it at all. Or, we just didn't sync well together.

She was young and small downstairs. She grimaced in pain. Big turnoff. She actually quit in cowgirl. She dismounted, proclaiming the end of the rodeo.

I wasn't angry, though. I expect a mismatch sometimes. She tried her best. I'm not going to berate her. I treated her nicely. She was okay in mish for a short time, keeping myself under control and being careful with her capacity.

We showered together. I felt a bit frustrated. But, reminded myself that I have had a long string of nice girls. I could have gone back to a regular, but I gambled on this one and did not receive a vibrant experience. Next trip, I will look for my regulars.

But, it was still an experience, and the release felt very healthy for my prostate to decompress.

After we finished, she thanked me and asked me to see her again. She gave me a genuine smile. Probably because I was considerate of her when she told me she was in pain. I just stopped. I later told her that I was sorry that I hurt her. That meant a lot to her. And her genuine smile allowed me to take something positive away. And, all was well.

We both folded hands and bowed, Traditional Thai Style. I really love that custom. And, I felt a bit disappointed that there was no real connection. But, I left whole and complete, realizing that this occurs from time to time, and I thanked my lucky stars that it was only a small disappointment and nothing negative beyond that.

Well, nothing left to do but go shopping. Went to Xichang and Guangzhou.

And a veg / fruit vendor selling produce on a blanket had some freshly uprooted mountain tuber / roots, about 6 feet long and 6 to 7 inches in circumference.

(Chinese yam is referred to as shānyào (23665;33647;; 山34277, or mountain root).

He took out his hatchet and slew me a portion of the freshly plucked delicious root. Nice in soup.

Hey, I may have lost in the sensual interaction, but. At least I'll have a good stew tonight.

I hunted around Longshan a few times, but damn it's all old ass women. Any of the ones that seem young are too chubby. The massage places will literally try to pull you in, but again it's all grandmas. Tried an online one, I thought it was an independent, but clearly some sort of agency importing foreign women. I arrived at the room and it was a fat weird looking women. Too dark to gauge her age, but I was totally turned off by her body and the fact they were asking 8 k lmao. Walked immediately. The person on the phone was asking why and tried to knock off 2 k, but I just straight told them she was not hot enough and they agreed. Totally whack!

[QUOTE=Number3344;2858471]I hunted around Longshan a few times, but damn it's all old ass women. Any of the ones that seem young are too chubby. The massage places will literally try to pull you in, but again it's all grandmas. Tried an online one, I thought it was an independent, but clearly some sort of agency importing foreign women. I arrived at the room and it was a fat weird looking women. Too dark to gauge her age, but I was totally turned off by her body and the fact they were asking 8 k lmao. Walked immediately. The person on the phone was asking why and tried to knock off 2 k, but I just straight told them she was not hot enough and they agreed. Totally whack![/QUOTE]If you scour the Xichang, Kangding alleys, possibly 10 to 25 percent are in their 20's, depending on the time of day. Pre-COVID, I twisted my neck, flapping it rapidly back and forth and from side to side, tantalized by so many young beauties. But, nowadays, the imports come in, in their twenties, for a short stay, within their visas to work. And, you can find some locals in the area who are 20-30 year olds, and lovely.

But, unfortunately, I must agree with you, you will have to sort.

Through a plethora of late model, well-fed (actually overly-fed) ladies that are not worth your time, money and effort.

I sometimes use a Taiwan You-Bike to cover the entire square area of Guilin, Kangding, Huaxi, Heping, a reconnaissance mission, keeping mental notes on "doables" and biking the area a few times, up to an hour, also taking note and observing local activities, food vendors and people. You become well-informed of the current activities and availabilities of the ladies. I usually find someone worthwhile. But, if not, I get a snack and try again on another day.

One strong, stealthy, lean, healthy, athletic girl sometimes sees me riding through on my bike. She blocks the alley, grabs on to my handlebars and tries to outmuscle me for my business. We have a history, so it is all in good fun. I don't go with her anymore because she is far too shrewd for me, but she sometimes demands a toll fee because I biked past her alley. I sometimes give her a stipend for old-times sake. She always is fun with many stories. One time she walked by me rapidly with a foreign guy she hooked. I rolled my eyes and warned the guy "good luck. ".

Tried one more of these online things again. Girl claimed to be independent British escort, which lets be real was never likely. Asked 8 k and agreed to some of the stuff I prefer. I show up and it's an Asian chick in the room. I think I still had a foot in the hallway. I just said to her, "You're supposed to be white. " Didn't stick around long enough to figure out what was good since I hate being lied to. She called "I'll give you discount" as I walked down the hall.

[QUOTE=Number3344;2858605]Tried one more of these online things again. Girl claimed to be independent British escort, which lets be real was never likely. Asked 8 k and agreed to some of the stuff I prefer. I show up and it's an Asian chick in the room. I think I still had a foot in the hallway. I just said to her, "You're supposed to be white. " Didn't stick around long enough to figure out what was good since I hate being lied to. She called "I'll give you discount" as I walked down the hall.[/QUOTE]That sucks. Was the the MR website?

Hmm, I've been hit with bait and switch 3 times in Taipei.

1) it was my fault. I actually caught them and called them out! (via reverse image) But the handler was so brazen and simply said. I guarantee this is me. If it isn't, just leave. Well, they tricked me. And I guess they're just hoping that you'll be too in the moment to care. The bait was a 10, the switch was actually a very cute 8, but her personality was a 10 and we exchanged contacts. Not sure if I'll ever see her again but I liked her A LOT and wouldn't mind. I wrote back to the handler in a mock angry tone, calling out the bait and switch. They left me on read.

2) I think, but not entirely certain, that I was talking to an actual girl who may have been using a real photo. And to be fair, I often end up stringing the girls along (not big time but just within reason) with a maybe until the time is right for me to commit to a last minute meeting. So I totally understand when girls cannot accommodate my last minute requests. But this one did, and so when I arrived I was a bit upset to get a message that she was busy and was sending me to meet her friend. This was a bait and switch but via phone so I at least had a heads up before going into the hotel. The new photos were not as appealing, but the price was proportionally reduced enough for me to decide proceed. Original photos were a 10, I'd say the new photos were 7. 5 and the actual girl was about a 7. It was fine. What was crazy was afterward, and I had returned to my abode quite far away from the rendezvous, I sent a message asking if she was real and just got called to another appt at the last moment. Or if she was just a handler. She said she was real and asked me to come now as she was available. Umm, I can't do back-to-backs I'm sorry so I told her that. And very weirdly, she wouldn't take no for an answer. Kept asking me to come back and even getting oddly angry in her messages that I wouldn't return. I basically filed this away in my head as a lucky miss to avoid this psycho person, if she is in fact real.

3) Third bait and switch happened very recently. It was almost a combo of #1 and 2. I made my usual tentative agreement with a girl for a particular evening, but then I found something in one of her old photos that made me question her authenticity. So when she asked if I was coming I told her no and explained very matter of factly why, including links. She replied by offering a video call to prove who she is. I accepted. And even though she wasn't the same girl in the pics, she was still quite beautiful. So I followed through with the appointment later on and the bait and switch happened at the door of the room. The video call girl was maybe an 8. 5, the girl who opened the door was a 6. "Sorry, my friend is busy now but she tell me to meet you. Still very good sex. " I told her no. She said something a couple times to try to entice me. I again said sorry, no. And walked away. Weirdly, when I left, the busy girl was able to message me immediately asking me to stay and go see her friend. I told her no. (Thankfully I had a backup so all was good, just annoyed about having traveled about 30 minutes out of the way) 90 minutes later she tried to call me, tried messaging me, saying she was available now. I ignored her. Maybe she was legit and just had something come up at the last second, or maybe she's a handler who happens to be very attractive.

Anyway, that's the story of my bait and switches, which I'm fortunate to say are not a very high percentage. I'm also really glad I had the cajones to walk away from the third example, which was my first time ever just walking away from an appt. Had she been a 7, I probably would have just settled.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2859252]Hmm, I've been hit with bait and switch 3 times in Taipei.

1) it was my fault. I actually caught them and called them out! (via reverse image) But the handler was so brazen and simply said. I guarantee this is me. If it isn't, just leave. Well, they tricked me. And I guess they're just hoping that you'll be too in the moment to care. The bait was a 10, the switch was actually a very cute 8, but her personality was a 10 and we exchanged contacts. Not sure if I'll ever see her again but I liked her A LOT and wouldn't mind. I wrote back to the handler in a mock angry tone, calling out the bait and switch. They left me on read.

2) I think, but not entirely certain, that I was talking to an actual girl who may have been using a real photo. And to be fair, I often end up stringing the girls along (not big time but just within reason) with a maybe until the time is right for me to commit to a last minute meeting. So I totally understand when girls cannot accommodate my last minute requests. But this one did, and so when I arrived I was a bit upset to get a message that she was busy and was sending me to meet her friend. This was a bait and switch but via phone so I at least had a heads up before going into the hotel. The new photos were not as appealing, but the price was proportionally reduced enough for me to decide proceed. Original photos were a 10, I'd say the new photos were 7. 5 and the actual girl was about a 7. It was fine. What was crazy was afterward, and I had returned to my abode quite far away from the rendezvous, I sent a message asking if she was real and just got called to another appt at the last moment. Or if she was just a handler. She said she was real and asked me to come now as she was available. Umm, I can't do back-to-backs I'm sorry so I told her that. And very weirdly, she wouldn't take no for an answer. Kept asking me to come back and even getting oddly angry in her messages that I wouldn't return. I basically filed this away in my head as a lucky miss to avoid this psycho person, if she is in fact real.

3) Third bait and switch happened very recently. It was almost a combo of #1 and 2. I made my usual tentative agreement with a girl for a particular evening, but then I found something in one of her old photos that made me question her authenticity. So when she asked if I was coming I told her no and explained very matter of factly why, including links. She replied by offering a video call to prove who she is. I accepted. And even though she wasn't the same girl in the pics, she was still quite beautiful. So I followed through with the appointment later on and the bait and switch happened at the door of the room. The video call girl was maybe an 8. 5, the girl who opened the door was a 6. "Sorry, my friend is busy now but she tell me to meet you. Still very good sex. " I told her no. She said something a couple times to try to entice me. I again said sorry, no. And walked away. Weirdly, when I left, the busy girl was able to message me immediately asking me to stay and go see her friend. I told her no. (Thankfully I had a backup so all was good, just annoyed about having traveled about 30 minutes out of the way) 90 minutes later she tried to call me, tried messaging me, saying she was available now. I ignored her. Maybe she was legit and just had something come up at the last second, or maybe she's a handler who happens to be very attractive.

Anyway, that's the story of my bait and switches, which I'm fortunate to say are not a very high percentage. I'm also really glad I had the cajones to walk away from the third example, which was my first time ever just walking away from an appt. Had she been a 7, I probably would have just settled.[/QUOTE]You using JK or some other forums for these?

Always MR. I've posted quite a lot in the past.

Nobody caught up in the bust earlier today?

[QUOTE=Exile;2859983]Nobody caught up in the bust earlier today?[/QUOTE]I wasn't aware of a bust. Any details, a news link that you can provide. Real news and information is not always readily available, and usually very basic, lacking elaborate details. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2860051]I wasn't aware of a bust. Any details, a news link that you can provide. Real news and information is not always readily available, and usually very basic, lacking elaborate details. Thank you.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/5019311[/URL]

[QUOTE=Amazake;2860051]I wasn't aware of a bust. Any details, a news link that you can provide. Real news and information is not always readily available, and usually very basic, lacking elaborate details. Thank you.[/QUOTE]That Taiwan News article doesn't have many details but it's been in local press.

Diamond Building on Kanding. Mentioned here throughout the years.

It's sort of interesting that a lot of background was provided. Apparently, a guy who had been involved in all sorts of organized crime activities through the years began renting apartments in the building 7 or 8 years ago (not sure about dates) eventually obtaining 50 apartments that he paid $11,000-14,000 per month for.

31 girls. Four Taiwanese, an Indonesian, and the remaining Vietnamese. Were arrested along with eight guys who worked in the operation.

If you're wondering, the girls received $1,500-2,000 based on 'quality' and gave the owner $700 for each.

Bust was late Wednesday evening. Something like 100 cops participated in it.

[QUOTE=Exile;2860074]That Taiwan News article doesn't have many details but it's been in local press.

Diamond Building on Kanding. Mentioned here throughout the years.

It's sort of interesting that a lot of background was provided. Apparently, a guy who had been involved in all sorts of organized crime activities through the years began renting apartments in the building 7 or 8 years ago (not sure about dates) eventually obtaining 50 apartments that he paid $11,000-14,000 per month for.

31 girls. Four Taiwanese, an Indonesian, and the remaining Vietnamese. Were arrested along with eight guys who worked in the operation.

If you're wondering, the girls received $1,500-2,000 based on 'quality' and gave the owner $700 for each.

Bust was late Wednesday evening. Something like 100 cops participated in it.[/QUOTE]I guess there is a method to their madness.

Seems like Law Enforcement gathers information and surveillance over extended periods of time before they perform a carefully strategized major sting.

I mean, I walk those alleys with the girls and police so frequently, and it appears so safe, no agenda, almost as if the police are maintaining a safe red light district for the girls to prosper, and the johns to get relief and live out their fantasies.

And, then, like this, and times prior, a well-orchestrated sweep comes down, capturing anybody and everybody who are found, unfortunately involved at that particular moment, definitely ruining their day, to say the least, and possibly even their life.

But, hey, "There but for the Grace of God go I. " Because, I was there a number of times this week, in those alleys, carefree and nonchalantly meandering amongst the ladies and the police, feeling protected under a false confidence that all is well. My only concern was not overpaying by a few bucks.

Then again, I am sure the strip is up and running again. They are probably more concerned with the criminal organization, rather than prostitution itself. Because, the tearooms are allowed to operate and remain open, to protect a Taiwanese cultural tradition and social activity for senior gents.

Thank you, Exile for the valuable reporting. Be safe, gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2860052][URL]https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/5019311[/URL][/QUOTE]Same story in every part of the world. Try to hide crimes that are in plain sight, just before elections. I don't understand that in the year 2023, who exactly gets fooled by this charade? Gather evidence? What a load of bull. It takes 1 day to watch, surveillance and video tape what happens. If they're really interested, they'd catch and prosecute the owner of the building / apartment in open courts. Diamond building will become a children's daycare next day. But of course, it'll kill their source of monthly payments.

In light of the most recent events in Wanhua, I felt it necessary to view the crime scene in the aftermath.

Expecting widespread depletion of female attendants, I was quite surprised to find business as usual. Plenty of ladies lining the streets, but of meager quality. (about the same).

The Taiwanese freelancers were present, seemingly unaffected by the the gangsters importing exotic ladies from foreign lands.

Made me realize that probably of the 44 captured, they were probably not street walkers, but younger ladies being managed by pimps and agents in more private brothels with access by more prearranged means. I am sure that some hit the streets when activity is slow, though, but usually more protected. Except in this instance.

Anyway, I approached a few, half-heartedly, but they were not worth the 2 k they were asking.

Being satisfied with my work, had some overly salty soup, and left.

As a side note. Aside from the mating activities, it was a Saturday night, and a very vibrant, bustling night, with plenty of vendors and happy citizens enjoying a cool October night. It was a very pleasant evening. After which, I headed out to the Yangmingshan hot springs for a late night soak. Especially after a long night of investigative journaling by foot, and producing this immediate investigative report, I needed some are&are. (LOL).

Haven't taken a trip to Wanhua for a while, but just happened to be nearby Saturday afternoon. So I thought why not take a quick stroll.

First checked out Bangka Park opposite of Longshan Temple. There was the usual selection of Taiwanese grannies, plus a couple of younger Thai ladies who had set up shop near the subway entrance. I remember seeing some of them working on Xichang Rd. Before, so they were probably not caught in the bust.

Walking down Xichang Rd. I noticed none of the Viet girls who usually walk around on the left side of the street were to be found. However all of the usual Taiwanese ladies were available. From experience most of them reject foreigners though, so I didn't bother.

The right side of Xichang Rd. Was noticeable more empty. Usually there were 2-3 flocks of Thai girls with 3-4 girls each, but I could only spot 3 of them around. Again, all of the Taiwanese providers were available, also in the dark alleyways which lead to the diamond building. The building itself seemed pretty deserted though, with none of the usual action downstairs or on the stairs.

So it's probably not business as usual (yet), the selection of SEA talent is currently much smaller. Still, there's plenty of local providers available.

Stay safe!

I imagine that the bust is primarily related to election-year politics and that the brothel in question was targeted because it had foreign workers. I don't think that anything beyond this is going to happen.

[QUOTE=Kimochidesu;2855388]Not a lot of options on JFK for Shilin, also can't really tell if the non-chain spas in the area are he or legit. Anyone with recommendations? Will be staying in the area for about a month so would prefer somewhere really close.[/QUOTE]There are a lot of massage places in Shipai near ZhiYuan Park. HJ only.

[QUOTE=TmBenson8;2862315]There are a lot of massage places in Shipai near ZhiYuan Park. HJ only.[/QUOTE]I am aware of only two spas in that immediate area of the park. If possible, please inform us further.

In Mingde, along the MRT tracks, traveling towards Beitou, right before the Shipai station is an active spa. Sometimes you will see the young ladies outside getting air. Attractive. I haven't paid them a visit yet.

Prices vary. I see 90 minutes for $1500 in many. And, sometimes 2 hours. There is another spa directly across from the Shipai MRT. By all appearances, it looks to be 100% legit, and therapeutic. The Thai spas have more leeway. Of course, a man butt naked on a bed can often turn a sterile massage into an erotic pleasure.

But, in that Shipai enclave, on both sides of the MRT tracks, I have seen three or four spas vanish.

Could someone here do me a huge favor. Can someone tell me if this KTV offers any "extra services. ".

I allowed my Thai girl to work in Taiwan for 2 weeks. She was in need of money and her friend had told her that it was easy money and didn't involve any sex work. The friend had only worked at this KTV only once and did not recall the location for me to look up beforehand. I come to find out it's located in Wanhua and in an area that is very questionable. After working there, she assured me that nothing sexual goes on. That it's strictly entertaining. I'm not disregarding what she's saying but I also don't want to be blinded and in denial. The KTV is located in Sanshui St Ln. 106. It's located on the second alley West of Bangka Park on Sanshui St. The sign of the business is blue and name of the business is

[QUOTE=Dashz;2864825]Could someone here do me a huge favor. Can someone tell me if this KTV offers any "extra services. ".

I allowed my Thai girl to work in Taiwan for 2 weeks. She was in need of money and her friend had told her that it was easy money and didn't involve any sex work. The friend had only worked at this KTV only once and did not recall the location for me to look up beforehand. I come to find out it's located in Wanhua and in an area that is very questionable. After working there, she assured me that nothing sexual goes on. That it's strictly entertaining. I'm not disregarding what she's saying but I also don't want to be blinded and in denial. The KTV is located in Sanshui St Ln. 106. It's located on the second alley West of Bangka Park on Sanshui St. The sign of the business is blue and name of the business is[/QUOTE]In my experience, it depends on the girl. Of course, this area is reserved to enjoy yourself fully, including extras. But, in the Huaxi Market tea houses, and KTV rooms, where your girl is, many men, old-timers, go to sponge-up as much alcohol as their bodies allow before passing out, screaming and wailing-out love ballads, eating and partying with a girl by their side serving them. That does occur there. That is why they are not shut down or under constant attack, like the brothels down the street in the XiChang / Kangding Market. Because, the KTV's are social clubs and a vital part in the tradition and fabric of older men's lives in that area.

I know older men that go there for the social aspect. And, there are men that go to the tea houses for a good time singing, drinking and extras, also.

I knew a pretty young lady that sang and entertained with older men partying, and that is all she did there. No extras. So, she worked the streets in another area when she wanted to make extra money with extras.

Because many of these party rooms are closely monitored, with videos, and the owners don't want any type of nudity in the rooms, and they burst in from time to time.

I knew a Viet girl who gave me extras in other areas, but when in the KTV rooms, served me tea and talked only and suddenly became a celibate nun.

So, keep in touch with your girl, and hopefully your relationship is strong enough to trust her. It is very possible that she is avoiding extras. Good luck, my friend.

Does nuru massage exist in Taipei?

I am also curious if the earwax cleaning places offer extras.

I haven't been back to Taiwan since minquan blue got shut down.

[QUOTE=Dashz;2864825]Could someone here do me a huge favor. Can someone tell me if this KTV offers any "extra services. ".

I allowed my Thai girl to work in Taiwan for 2 weeks. She was in need of money and her friend had told her that it was easy money and didn't involve any sex work. The friend had only worked at this KTV only once and did not recall the location for me to look up beforehand. I come to find out it's located in Wanhua and in an area that is very questionable. After working there, she assured me that nothing sexual goes on. That it's strictly entertaining. I'm not disregarding what she's saying but I also don't want to be blinded and in denial. The KTV is located in Sanshui St Ln. 106. It's located on the second alley West of Bangka Park on Sanshui St. The sign of the business is blue and name of the business is[/QUOTE]Good luck dating a KTV girl. You'll never really know what happened there.

[QUOTE=HoboWithin;2865859]Does nuru massage exist in Taipei?

I am also curious if the earwax cleaning places offer extras.

I haven't been back to Taiwan since minquan blue got shut down.[/QUOTE]Nopes, no real Nuru massage anywhere in Taipei. Don't be fooled by the "Thai wash" places advertised on JKF or some spas like bird spa way down south. They will have a "water-bed" inflatable mattress and write dance erotic stuff in the ad. However, I haven't found a single girl here who know how to properly do Nuru. They just like in your back fully naked for a few seconds, press their tits and think that's Nuru.

Go to Macau, Thailand, Netherlands for a proper Nuru. Don't know about Japan or Korea. Most places there are too xenophobic.

Had a semi-weird experience in one of those Kangding pseudo-massage pull-you-in joints between Guilin and Guangzhou.

I toured and scoured the area looking for a needle in a haystack, and I found absolutely nothing worth the price.

But, I did see a tall thin youngish Mainlander at the above mentioned location. She was pretty enough to catch my attention and promised me the improbable deal of a full one hour massage and a handy, no full service, for a very modest 1 k.

And, that is really too good to be true, and I figured, what to lose; let me see how far I could hold her to it. Because, she did quote that. And, I made her repeat the time and price multiple times, because we all know that I ain't getting that package. But, let's see where this goes, and how close we can keep this deal.

I seldom see many guys walk into those places. Honestly speaking, no girls look very busy anywhere. And, Mengxia Park (Bangka Park) across from the Longshan Temple, seems to be the new home for the overspill of "mediocrity" from the XiChang Market.

Really and honestly speaking, her massage started out great on my back for about 14 minutes. I needed it. Could this be real? I mean, a very decent legit soothing-me-to-the-point-of-sleep massage.

But, I was abruptly awakened and insinuated to not get too comfortable, by her fanning the fire of the erogenous zones way too early, playing flirty and asking me to flip over. (that old trick-of-the-trade probably dates back to the bordellos in the early Roman Empire).

Now, this is the point where the customer is supposed to become desperate and fold to the "new far less attractive deal" dictated by her and accepted by your overly-excited erect member below, who overrules your brain, your sense of fair play, and rational judgment.

I looked her straight in the eyes and said that I wanted my hour like she promised and asked if she is a liar?

She was taken aback, nervously smiled, (possibly felt embarrassed? If that indeed is an emotion some of these girls still possess) and allowed me roaming privileges as she caressed me, which aroused her own enjoyment to the point where time was forgotten for a while, and we both were enjoying each other's company, with mutual touching and caressing, which I dare say is the way it is supposed to be.

Suddenly, she realized that time was drifting and she reached for her phone that was on silent mode, and realized that her boss called her about 17 times. She showed me the missed calls.

Self-survival, fight-or-flight mode set in for her, and rightfully so. (I, too, once had a boss to answer to. It's no picnic, for sure. So, although quite dismayed, I understood. The party was over.).

She then became frantic, panicked, nervous and one-pointedly and ferociously impatient with me, and let me know that it was now or never, at about 48 minutes into the whole ordeal. She then wanted more money, close to double, to complete, which I refused, but gave her more. (she didn't get paid anything yet, so she still had to play ball fairly).

From all the foreplay, I was ready to burst, anyway. So, although I might have appeared like a cool Vegas dealer, I was desperate and raging inside.

So, we finished the deed in grand fashion as she had promised. She left abruptly to make her cell-call, throwing me a few baby-ass-wipes to clean myself up with.

But, I left her as a worried girl, having to face her boss and her, not getting double the 1 k which made her feel less than successful at her usual extortion scheme.

I felt terribly rushed at the end, with her wanting to get the job done and get me out of there, without even affording me afterwards bathroom urination and cleanup privileges. But, I insisted, as she rolled her eyes impatiently.

But, the beginning and middle portions were delightful, decent massage, with lovely mutual playfulness.

I usually never, ever go to those girl-at-the-door, pull me in by persuasion encounters, but she was lovely to look at, and by far the best and only lady I would mix with that night, with the alternative of going home seriously backed-up.

As fate would have it, after this ordeal, a few meters down the alley, I saw a lovely Thai. But, I was in no mood for another round. My emotions were a bit frayed.

I would like to find an hour session with a good massage, followed by relaxed sensual touch for around 1. 5, in lieu of these 20 minute rushed full service packages. If anyone is aware of such, please chime in.

Thank you. End of story. Thank you for your patience.

I tried to visit Minquan blue and it looks to be shut down. However from a google search another poster said there's a shop in red to the right. I checked it out and I would have to say it was one of the cleanest spots I've been to. 1300 for the door. The girl wanted 2 k for HJ I tried to negotiate and get more based off my visits to Taichung and she offer 1 k for a HJ. I declined due to principle alone. Back in Taichung half service cost me 2 k at the shop I go to and 3 k for the full deal. I ended up leaving and going to the place across the street (south side) almost opposite of the McDonald's. 1400 for 70 min. I ended up just getting a HJ and when finished I asked her about the tip and she said it was up to me. I seemed to like this place a lot more due to the tipping amount.

Also funny story. While at the first place (north side). The cops came in and I wasn't sure what to do. The girl told me to put my clothes on and an officer came and checked the rooms. I just told them I was here for a massage and was from the USA.

I recently completed a 9 night stay in Taipei. Many thanks to Amazake and other contributors who posted on the Wanhua streetwalker area around the Longshan Temple. After 2 days of traversing the surroundings, everything you all wrote made perfect sense and allowed me to enjoy what the area has to offer, albeit in a limited way due to language barriers.

I am a 60-something year-old northern European-looking Caucasian who has a preference for older women, which I realize is a bit unusual and clouds my perceptions a bit. I'm more into attitude and performance than looks and age, and finding a GFE provider is golden to me.

My Taipei trip was a touristy one, and mongering was low on my to-do list. This is because I've had paid relations with around 15 Chinese women on previous visits to Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore and found that on average, Chinese hookers are horrible providers compared to other Southeast Asian women. No emotional comfort, no passion, no GFE; it's all mechanical and on her terms. So I had few illusions about having my needs met and was prepared to be disappointed, but I wanted to learn more about the local offerings.

Longshan Temple area quality is lacking but the quantity is bountiful. During the late afternoon and early evening I would estimate there were upwards of 50 women available for service. No one should go there expecting to find stunners or cut-rate prices, but it's nice to have somewhat affordable and easy to find options.

I've mentally divided the area around Longshan Temple into three areas.

Area #1 is Xichang Street between Guangzhou Street and Guilan Road, which is home to a little night market hosting mainly sales of second-hand crap. 10-20 streetwalkers are out there from late morning until around 10 pm. It's a nice mixture of fairly young and attractive girls with a few senior-citizen-aged hags. They are very passive and rely on the customer to initiate contact. There are no stunners there, but every day I saw a few relatively cute and young ones I would rank in the 5 to 6 category. When I approached two of them, each would hold up two fingers, indicating $2,000 or around $65 USD. Not a horrible deal in a well-developed country like Taiwan, but I was leery of not being able to define the terms of the deal due to language restrictions, so I passed.

Area #2 is the confines of Bangka Park, across the street from Longshan Temple. It houses the Longshan MRT station, which makes it super easy to visit the area from anywhere in the city. It's the daytime home of a rather large indigent and elderly population but also sees a fair number of 30-45 year-old Chinese pavement-standers outfitted in mini dresses, heels, flesh-colored stockings, and plenty of cosmetics. Several look quite appealing from a distance and are somewhat approachable and receptive to foreigners. To my eyes they are not a bad deal at $1,000 or around $32 USD. I ended up taking one to a nearby short-time hotel room ($300) which was actually quite clean and had a TV which played both Asian and Western porn. Service level was about what I had expected for a low-priced and low energy cum dump.

Area #3 is along both Guangzhou Street and Xiyuan Road to the immediate west of the temple and Bangka Park, heading toward the Huaxi Street night market. No young ones in this area, mainly 45-70 year olds who appear to cater to the horny grandpas. Some look nice and dress stylishly for their age but most are plain and getting ready to apply for old age pensions. All were foreigner-friendly but were definitely the most aggressive streetwalkers I've ever encountered, with several strongly grabbing my arm and pulling hard to get me to follow them into an upstairs spider's web.

Amazingly, the price among all the older ladies I talked to in areas 2 and 3 was $1,000, regardless of looks. For a 35 year-old looker, it is a pretty good deal. For a senior citizen with vericose veins, a freebie is still too expensive.

I did take one woman from this area, and it ended up being a quite memorable experience. Tale to follow.

Several times I headed west from Bangka Park across the Xiyuan Road / Guangzhou Street intersection to check out the Huaxi Night Market area. On each visit there was an approximately 50 year old lady standing on the southwest side of the crossing who I nicknamed "Smiley". Big teeth, big smile, big body, and a knee-length dress and support stockings covering her big legs.

She would always beckon me to come with her by tightly grabbing my arm and would not take no as an answer. I would have to use my fingers to pry her strong hands off my arms as I walked away.

Her visual sales pitch was a right index finger poking her closed left hand indicating intercourse and tongue slurping sounds indicating a blow job.

I had seen several somewhat attractive older hookers leading old men up stairs to their lairs, and curiosity got the best of me. $1,000 was a cheap enough price and I had already convinced myself that the service would be terrible, so I figured I had little to lose and was excited to try out a new environment. As Smiley probably doesn't get a lot of customers, I hoped that she would take good care of me. Her persistence wore me down, so I finally agreed to her sales pitch.

As we walked to her building she held my arm tightly. Not like a boyfriend / girlfriend embrace but rather like a police officer leading a potentially fleeing criminal to the squad car. We boarded an elevator to the 6th floor and it opened to a mysterious KTV setup.

A white shirted man lead us to a videoke room with a long curved fake leather couch, then brought a tea pot and two cups. Once the door was locked and the money paid, she sat me down on the couch and immediately began tugging at my belt and unzipping my cargo shorts. She reached into her purse for a bottle of lubricant and set it on the table. Surprisingly, she started sucking without slapping on a condom.

I've had hundreds of blow jobs in my life, but what followed was easily the most amazing one I've ever had. As I began to grow, she stopped and sprayed my cock with lubricant, then started jerking the lower 2/3rd of my cock with her hand while doing a fast swirly sucking motion with her mouth on the upper 1/3rd.

After getting sufficiently hard, I motioned that I was ready for intercourse. Instead of stopping for a condom and laying the couch, she stands up, pulls down her stockings, turns away from me and begins to lower her ass toward my belly, intending to push my penis inside her pussy without a condom.

My previous Chinese providers had extreme phobias about sperm and bare penile contact, so I was extremely shocked by her allowing me to go bareback. But I am a 100% condom-usage guy for intercourse, so I motioned to her to just continue the BJ.

Normally when I get close to exploding, the girl eases up and lets the ooze shoot into the back of her throat. But not this lady. As I got ready to shoot, she kept swirling and sucking at the same rapid rate while continuing to hand-jerk my shaft.

The result was the most amazing oral climax of my life, as her fast mouth and tongue titillated every penile nerve ending. My pelvis shuddered, my legs were shaking, and my brain was convulsing as I exploded into her mouth for around 10 seconds. She just kept sucking away until I indicated she could stop, with no gag reflex. I expected her to spit it onto the floor, but she ended up swallowing every drop.

It took at least 30 seconds to gather my wits and start to recover from the world class BJ. While I was basking in the glow, she immediately pulled up her undergarments, applied fresh lipstick, and yanked me to my feet.

Over the next three days I seriously contemplated taking another streetwalker but could not stop thinking about that blow job. So on my last day in town, I found her again so I could determine whether my response was due to her technique or because of the titillation that comes from doing it in a new place.

Same time of day, same gal, same room, same result.

I have no plans to revisit Taipei but if I do, I'm definitely coming back to find Smiley. I'm sure she'll be working that corner for another 15 years until she qualifies for an old age pension.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2868514]Several times I headed west from Bangka Park across the Xiyuan Road / Guangzhou Street intersection to check out the Huaxi Night Market area. On each visit there was an approximately 50 year old lady standing on the southwest side of the crossing who I nicknamed "Smiley". Big teeth, big smile, big body, and a knee-length dress and support stockings covering her big legs.

She would always beckon me to come with her by tightly grabbing my arm and would not take no as an answer. I would have to use my fingers to pry her strong hands off my arms as I walked away.

Her visual sales pitch was a right index finger poking her closed left hand indicating intercourse and tongue slurping sounds indicating a blow job.

I had seen several somewhat attractive older hookers leading old men up stairs to their lairs, and curiosity got the best of me. $1,000 was a cheap enough price and I had already convinced myself that the service would be terrible, so I figured I had little to lose and was excited to try out a new environment. As Smiley probably doesn't get a lot of customers, I hoped that she would take good care of me. Her persistence wore me down, so I finally agreed to her sales pitch.

As we walked to her building she held my arm tightly. Not like a boyfriend / girlfriend embrace but rather like a police officer leading a potentially fleeing criminal to the squad car. We boarded an elevator to the 6th floor and it opened to a mysterious KTV setup.

A white shirted man lead us to a videoke room with a long curved fake leather couch, then brought a tea pot and two cups. Once the door was locked and the money paid, she sat me down on the couch and immediately began tugging at my belt and unzipping my cargo shorts. She reached into her purse for a bottle of lubricant and set it on the table. Surprisingly, she started sucking without slapping on a condom.

I've had hundreds of blow jobs in my life, but what followed was easily the most amazing one I've ever had. As I began to grow, she stopped and sprayed my cock with lubricant, then started jerking the lower 2/3rd of my cock with her hand while doing a fast swirly sucking motion with her mouth on the upper 1/3rd.

After getting sufficiently hard, I motioned that I was ready for intercourse. Instead of stopping for a condom and laying the couch, she stands up, pulls down her stockings, turns away from me and begins to lower her ass toward my belly, intending to push my penis inside her pussy without a condom.

My previous Chinese providers had extreme phobias about sperm and bare penile contact, so I was extremely shocked by her allowing me to go bareback. But I am a 100% condom-usage guy for intercourse, so I motioned to her to just continue the BJ.

Normally when I get close to exploding, the girl eases up and lets the ooze shoot into the back of her throat. But not this lady. As I got ready to shoot, she kept swirling and sucking at the same rapid rate while continuing to hand-jerk my shaft.

The result was the most amazing oral climax of my life, as her fast mouth and tongue titillated every penile nerve ending. My pelvis shuddered, my legs were shaking, and my brain was convulsing as I exploded into her mouth for around 10 seconds. She just kept sucking away until I indicated she could stop, with no gag reflex. I expected her to spit it onto the floor, but she ended up swallowing every drop.

It took at least 30 seconds to gather my wits and start to recover from the world class BJ. While I was basking in the glow, she immediately pulled up her undergarments, applied fresh lipstick, and yanked me to my feet.

Over the next three days I seriously contemplated taking another streetwalker but could not stop thinking about that blow job. So on my last day in town, I found her again so I could determine whether my response was due to her technique or because of the titillation that comes from doing it in a new place.

Same time of day, same gal, same room, same result.

I have no plans to revisit Taipei but if I do, I'm definitely coming back to find Smiley. I'm sure she'll be working that corner for another 15 years until she qualifies for an old age pension.[/QUOTE]"Incredible Review!

Thank you for that incredible monger's journey through Wanhua.

Your "Smiley" escapades takes the cake.

Yeah, some of those grannies are battle-tested, fearless working girls. They literally laugh at the thought of any scared crybaby wimp putting on latex. They seem to relish mixing fluids with any man (possibly woman, also) sneering at the notion that viruses and parasites have any triumph over their invulnerably potent immune systems, fortified over many decades from absorbing and integrating semen into their systems from the human species (hopefully no other species lower in the food chain) from all four corners of this earth.

I salute these grannies. Unfortunately, I lack their braggadocious, cavalier, almost mocking-of-the-weak-and-frail mortals attitude.

But, you described granny sex perfectly. No frills, no waiting, pull down your knickers, whip junior out, suck the flaccid old boy to full erection, pull up the skirt, drop her drawers, and back the old truck in and smash it.

The whole act done with such precision, seamlessly, after thousands of performances day and night, through the passage of time.

Accolades to you for swinging her big fat granny ass around and encouraging her to show off her repertoire of oral prowess.

I mean I'm not into grannies, but, I will look for her.

It is interesting how amazingly intuitionally it all works in Huaxi. I have been there quite a bit, and seldom do grannies approach me. We cross paths, but I guess my look of "unthinkable," just repels them.

But, don't get me wrong, I have a few there that really light my fire. A few are really well kept, do it gladly for 1 k and display many fine traits of their younger years that remain present, enough to inspire you that she is everything she once was.

Anyway, so appreciate your vivid review of your time in Wanhua and Huaxi.

In many ways, it inspires me to appreciate the Huaxi experience more. These ladies are relics from a time long ago when Huaxi was a vibrant monger's' paradise.

However, you were savvy enough to make a deal and hold her to it. Because, that area is also fraught with scams, mostly when they spot a neophyte.

Anyway, thanks a bunch for taking the time to give us a great review that remains in the archives for posterity.

Good luck in your travels and hope you find your way back here real soon.

Watched a video on Taipei, it was in like a flea market and stores and had many ladies standing around, it was in Chinese so I couldn't understand it, anybody know where this might be? I live in NY and there's been a flood of Chinese working girls. It is so great. I go to this new Chinatown, in Flushing and. Why. First of all there are so many Chinese restaurants there that are delicious. Favorite Peking duck. Then I walk around and choose one they are literally just standing around. Prices start at 40 for initial massage then 40 to 60 for HJ, BJ. It's like a vacation Day! Any thoughts on why Asian / Chinese is so relaxing and interesting.

[QUOTE=Scruffman;2872149]Watched a video on Taipei, it was in like a flea market and stores and had many ladies standing around, it was in Chinese so I couldn't understand it, anybody know where this might be? I live in NY and there's been a flood of Chinese working girls. It is so great. I go to this new Chinatown, in Flushing and. Why. First of all there are so many Chinese restaurants there that are delicious. Favorite Peking duck. Then I walk around and choose one they are literally just standing around. Prices start at 40 for initial massage then 40 to 60 for HJ, BJ. It's like a vacation Day! Any thoughts on why Asian / Chinese is so relaxing and interesting.[/QUOTE]Link to video? Or name of it?

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2872190]Link to video? Or name of it?[/QUOTE]At at feng-624 he posts a bunch of videos all look good.

[QUOTE=Scruffman;2872333]At at feng-624 he posts a bunch of videos all look good.[/QUOTE]Yeah that looks Longshan area, Amazake's hunting ground.

"Monger is torn between health vs pleasure. ".

In all honesty and all sincerity, (I mean, as much as a monger can be trusted) I went to Wanhua in need of a legit massage, first and foremost.

But, no matter how good he might be, I certainly am not giving a dude the honor and privilege, which some of these places offer. Nor do I want a lady taking Centrum Senior Plus Silver Multivitamins giving me her last breath on this blessed earth, massaging me.

Of course, as any bonafide monger would do, I did preview the alleys, nooks and crannies for working girls, just to see what I stand to lose in this therapeutic obligation to the health of my body. And, it was a slow night, the regular mediocrity. Thank God, nothing really outstanding to sabotage my intention.

So, then, every bit as diligently, and as meticulously, as I hunt and scour those streets hunting for suitable bedmates, I set upon an odyssey to find a healthy balance between a kick-ass body dismantling and healing massage, with a masseuse that in some way fulfills my gnawing hunger for healing therapeutic's talent, along with sweetness and beauty.

Now, boys, let's face it, that's a pretty tall order, and, if she could do all that, and, cook, too, I would propose marriage on the spot.

And, I searched the legit spas that are most obvious on Sansui Street, Guangzhou, and Huaxi, and just could not commit, or was haunted by past memories of the spas inability to deliver the "Dual Threat / Daily Double" of a kickass massage, and good looks, at the very least, and the remote possibility of a handjob and the further farther remote possibility of a short romp as an unexpected dessert after a good meal.

After striking out at all the above places, I hit that Huaxi Mall covered walk-through Arcade where they have so many Viet manicure / pedicure shops, massage shops, snake meat, sex-toy shops, clothing stores, restaurants. It is a nice mall. Had manicures / pedicures there very often until they cut and filed my fingers and toes so brutally that I developed swollen fingers and infections on my fingers and toes.

Anyway, just to make a short story long, a youngish good looking massage store manager caught my attention. They want your business as much as a bear wants food after a winter's hibernation. She talked me up pretty good, (basically begged) and I gawked her up even better.

The monger in need of a therapeutic was intrigued and we got a little flirty. I told her my needs, that I have frozen-muscles and needed a good thaw, and I want a gal who can walk, dance, jump, trot, and perform as a ballerina on my back and every other body part. She told me she had a master-masseuse, best in the business, a true professional, and a money back guarantee. (I'll sell you some swamp-land in Hualien if you believe the money back guarantee part).

Anyways, I agreed, and believed her 110% because she was convincing and sold me. But, she said I have to wait. Made me comfortable and gave me tea.

Of course, in the meantime, the old monger, the Scrooge, the demon, The Grinch, started to churn the wheels of immoral thoughts feverishly. Because, although I fully believed the hot looking manager, that her employee could deliver the goods on a great massage, the question still remained, at what cost to my mongering pride and hunger for feminine sensuality? Putting it quite simply, I'm sure she can massage, but, what does she look / act like? Because, if pure mechanics was all that massage requires, I could just purchase me a mechanical massage chair.

The thought came to me to fake a seizure or a heart attack or some other dire emergency and do a monger bolt, hit the nearby alleys, forget about my tree-stump aching neck, grab one of my regulars and impale her good and proper, and that might release my tension short and sweet, far better than a long drawn out massage.

But, the desperate monger, having been in this conundrum prior, went to Plan be. Pulled aside the good looking manager, and with typical monger audacity and lack of any sophistication whatsoever, after waiting a good ten minutes and fantasizing about the cute young massage girl just finishing up her rice and side dishes for dinner, I blurt out, "give me her. ".

The owner was shocked. She said that the master was about ready for me. And in my mind, the mere title "master" implies great age and wisdom. Neither of which I wanted tonight.

I further protested that I can't wait any longer, I am late and this little sweetie will do me fine. She retorted that I am making a huge mistake because the young girl is at best, an amateur. I fought back that I will teach her and as long as she can keep her balance and walk on my body, she will be great.

Of course, the cute girl is delighting in this battle. Here I am, a stranger, fighting for her, Classic good against evil, the generous customer verses her oppressive boss.

It all ended when the boss / manager shouted out to me in no uncertain terms, "You can't have her! And, with that shocking blast, disintegrated my hopes and fantasies; my fate sealed.

Well, it's time to see what's behind door number 3. And, it wasn't the shiny red convertible. More like a station wagon from from a 1950's used car lot. Every bit as I had suspected.

I made one more plea, monger-style, "she is too heavy, and might fall on me and hurt me. Please, give me the tiny cute Tinkerbell! I think I was almost in tears at this point. And, Tinkerbell lit up like a firefly with my last gasp efforts to win her. But, the madame told me that the master is ready and to be careful climbing the stairs. My fate was upon me.

Got upstairs, stripped down and got ready for my therapeutic with the master, who also happens to be a granny.

Well, once realizing that this is my fate and there will always be tomorrow, after the granny loosens me up and I become a well-tuned machine to make up for this travesty on another night, I surrendered.

And the master was indeed a master. She worked me hard. No escaping it. She was everything she was promised to be, and more. Those Centrum Silver Senior Vitamins obviously work. I should take them myself.

And, lo and behold, after tenderizing every muscle, she showed me mercy in the end. I asked her to tenderize that stiffness between my legs that she missed. The granny giggled. Closed the curtain to avoid the surveillance camera, oiled me up, as she was laughing silly, whacked, squeezed, tickled, cupped, stroked the shaft to completion, and sent me to the showers. There was a comfort not really experienced so often in years of mongering prior. This strong grandma took such delight in this little escapade, seemingly, and she gave it great matronly attention.

85 minutes great legit massage, 1 k. Followed by a 5 minute merciful HJ, by a surprisingly wonderfully flattered granny, for another half of the legit rate. Honestly speaking, I decided on the tip, which she considered generous. She probably would have drained me for free. But, nobody likes a cheap foreigner. We need to maintain our dignity as generous visitors who are always welcomed back.

(Incidentally, I call her a granny, but in all likelihood, I probably surpassed her in years on this earth).

All in all, it really was a good night. I have gone on a rather long run of massages recently after exercising beyond my capacity. Enough of the over-exercising and enough of the legit / semi-legit massages, as I will get back to some old time rock and roll with these ladies.

Thank you for your patience, your attention, and for hanging out with me here. God Bless you all, be safe, and enjoy the wonderful Christmas Season, celebrated so well in Taiwan.

"Monger is torn between health vs pleasure. ".

In all honesty and all sincerity, (I mean, as much as a monger can be trusted) I went to Wanhua in need of a legit massage, first and foremost.

But, no matter how good he might be, I certainly am not giving a dude the honor and privilege, which some of these places offer. Nor do I want a lady taking Centrum Senior Plus Silver Multivitamins giving me her last breath on this blessed earth, massaging me.

Of course, as any bonafide monger would do, I did preview the alleys, nooks and crannies for working girls, just to see what I stand to lose in this therapeutic obligation to the health of my body. And, it was a slow night, the regular mediocrity. Thank God, nothing really outstanding to sabotage my intention.

So, then, every bit as diligently, and as meticulously, as I hunt and scour those streets hunting for suitable bedmates, I set upon an odyssey to find a healthy balance between a kick-ass body dismantling and healing massage, with a masseuse that in some way fulfills my gnawing hunger for healing therapeutic's talent, along with sweetness and beauty.

Now, boys, let's face it, that's a pretty tall order, and, if she could do all that, and, cook, too, I would propose marriage on the spot.

And, I searched the legit spas that are most obvious on Sansui Street, Guangzhou, and Huaxi, and just could not commit, or was haunted by past memories of the spas inability to deliver the "Dual Threat / Daily Double" of a kickass massage, and good looks, at the very least, and the remote possibility of a handjob and the further farther remote possibility of a short romp as an unexpected dessert after a good meal.

After striking out at all the above places, I hit that Huaxi Mall covered walk-through Arcade where they have so many Viet manicure / pedicure shops, massage shops, snake meat, sex-toy shops, clothing stores, restaurants. It is a nice mall. Had manicures / pedicures there very often until they cut and filed my fingers and toes so brutally that I developed swollen fingers and infections on my fingers and toes.

Anyway, just to make a short story long, a youngish good looking massage store manager caught my attention. They want your business as much as a bear wants food after a winter's hibernation. She talked me up pretty good, (basically begged) and I gawked her up even better.

The monger in need of a therapeutic was intrigued and we got a little flirty. I told her my needs, that I have frozen-muscles and needed a good thaw, and I want a gal who can walk, dance, jump, trot, and perform as a ballerina on my back and every other body part. She told me she had a master-masseuse, best in the business, a true professional, and a money back guarantee. (I'll sell you some swamp-land in Hualien if you believe the money back guarantee part).

Anyways, I agreed, and believed her 110% because she was convincing and sold me. But, she said I have to wait. Made me comfortable and gave me tea.

Of course, in the meantime, the old monger, the Scrooge, the demon, The Grinch, started to churn the wheels of immoral thoughts feverishly. Because, although I fully believed the hot looking manager, that her employee could deliver the goods on a great massage, the question still remained, at what cost to my mongering pride and hunger for feminine sensuality? Putting it quite simply, I'm sure she can massage, but, what does she look / act like? Because, if pure mechanics was all that massage requires, I could just purchase me a mechanical massage chair.

The thought came to me to fake a seizure or a heart attack or some other dire emergency and do a monger bolt, hit the nearby alleys, forget about my tree-stump aching neck, grab one of my regulars and impale her good and proper, and that might release my tension short and sweet, far better than a long drawn out massage.

But, the desperate monger, having been in this conundrum prior, went to Plan be. Pulled aside the good looking manager, and with typical monger audacity and lack of any sophistication whatsoever, after waiting a good ten minutes and fantasizing about the cute young massage girl just finishing up her rice and side dishes for dinner, I blurt out, "give me her. ".

The owner was shocked. She said that the master was about ready for me. And in my mind, the mere title "master" implies great age and wisdom. Neither of which I wanted tonight.

I further protested that I can't wait any longer, I am late and this little sweetie will do me fine. She retorted that I am making a huge mistake because the young girl is at best, an amateur. I fought back that I will teach her and as long as she can keep her balance and walk on my body, she will be great.

Of course, the cute girl is delighting in this battle. Here I am, a stranger, fighting for her, Classic good against evil, the generous customer verses her oppressive boss.

It all ended when the boss / manager shouted out to me in no uncertain terms, "You can't have her! And, with that shocking blast, disintegrated my hopes and fantasies; my fate sealed.

Well, it's time to see what's behind door number 3. And, it wasn't the shiny red convertible. More like a station wagon from from a 1950's used car lot. Every bit as I had suspected.

I made one more plea, monger-style, "she is too heavy, and might fall on me and hurt me. Please, give me the tiny cute Tinkerbell! I think I was almost in tears at this point. And, Tinkerbell lit up like a firefly with my last gasp efforts to win her. But, the madame told me that the master is ready and to be careful climbing the stairs. My fate was upon me.

Got upstairs, stripped down and got ready for my therapeutic with the master, who also happens to be a granny.

Well, once realizing that this is my fate and there will always be tomorrow, after the granny loosens me up and I become a well-tuned machine to make up for this travesty on another night, I surrendered.

And the master was indeed a master. She worked me hard. No escaping it. She was everything she was promised to be, and more. Those Centrum Silver Senior Vitamins obviously work. I should take them myself.

And, lo and behold, after tenderizing every muscle, she showed me mercy in the end. I asked her to tenderize that stiffness between my legs that she missed. The granny giggled. Closed the curtain to avoid the surveillance camera, oiled me up, as she was laughing silly, whacked, squeezed, tickled, cupped, stroked the shaft to completion, and sent me to the showers. There was a comfort not really experienced so often in years of mongering prior. This strong grandma took such delight in this little escapade, seemingly, and she gave it great matronly attention.

85 minutes great legit massage, 1 k. Followed by a 5 minute merciful HJ, by a surprisingly wonderfully flattered granny, for another half of the legit rate. Honestly speaking, I decided on the tip, which she considered generous. She probably would have drained me for free. But, nobody likes a cheap foreigner. We need to maintain our dignity as generous visitors who are always welcomed back.

(Incidentally, I call her a granny, but in all likelihood, I probably surpassed her in years on this earth).

All in all, it really was a good night. I have gone on a rather long run of massages recently after exercising beyond my capacity. Enough of the over-exercising and enough of the legit / semi-legit massages, as I will get back to some old time rock and roll with these ladies.

Thank you for your patience, your attention, and for hanging out with me here. God Bless you all, be safe, and enjoy the wonderful Christmas Season, celebrated so well in Taiwan.

[QUOTE=Scruffman;2872333]At at feng-624 he posts a bunch of videos all look good.[/QUOTE]Sorry for my complete lack of electronic / computer / media skills. I have no idea what fang-624 means. I will ask for very precise instructions to view this video. That would be very amusing. I thank you in advance. Much appreciated.

Can't download video to this site. Just search feng-624 on YouTube and it will bring you to his site. Don't really know if I'll visit Taipei or Hong Kong but I'm having so much Chinese success here. But all the ladies I visit are from mainland China. There's a massage parlor / happy ending one block from house and I live in a nice neighborhood.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2872492]Yeah that looks Longshan area, Amazake's hunting ground.[/QUOTE]


Amazake, here's a link to his videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/@feng-624/videos[/URL]

Are these all Longshan area? I find them quite difficult to watch cause the videos are very shaky.

Here's another YouTube CATGOPlay, can't seem to get YouTube to my files. If this is Taipei the caliber is pretty high, well worth 60 us. A safe country, good restaurants sounds good to me. I'll be in Chinatown Saturday for a day of fun.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2873307]Amazake, here's a link to his videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/@feng-624/videos[/URL]

Are these all Longshan area? I find them quite difficult to watch cause the videos are very shaky.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2873307]Amazake, here's a link to his videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/@feng-624/videos[/URL]

Are these all Longshan area? I find them quite difficult to watch cause the videos are very shaky.[/QUOTE]First off, thank you for your kind efforts in making it so easy for myself to review the videos. I could not review all of them. But, from those that I did review, as far as I can make out, it seems that they are basically focused on one area of the Longshan Temple site. He seems to be continually walking the circle around the XiChang Market, down Guilin and from Kangding to Guangzhou.

From those that I reviewed, I don't believe he ventured down the alleys into the center of the action by the Diamond Building, unless I missed that video. Also, from what I saw, I did not see the Huaxi Night Market and the alleys and tea shops.

Some of the staple girls in the XiChang Market look familiar. While a few others that are really standouts, I have not seen. I don't know if he dated his mission. Not sure if it is very recent footage.

It is not an easy task, filming while walking, and avoiding suspicion. Some of the girls smiled photogenically, and I doubt they would do so, had they known his video was running. Videoing might also anger the gangs and police. It is a risky shoot. With just a phone concealed, pretty good job.

When I find more time, I will review more in depth. Also, I do not read Chinese characters, and I speak mediocre Chinese.

Again, I thank you very much for the easy link.

Been told I may be laid off after Chinese New Year. Who knows. To fix mood, decided I wanted to go mongering. Hit up my regular 幹37096; Mr. Fish (who's actually a woman) for a quick recommendation. My usual ladies were booked, so I asked for someone who was busty but pretty. Mr. Fish did not disappoint. They directed me to visit 昆20940; kun ling to their Nong'An shop.

Unfortunately there was some traffic and I arrived 30 minutes late. When I arrived, I was kind of lost. The shop was located on level B1, next to a posh Mitsui restaurant. Heading down, I was welcomed into a bright marble decorated place. It felt very strange. Almost like I was walking into one of the nicer offices in the 101.

I proceeded to pay the 台36027; - which in this case was 3200. Stored all my personal items except for my wallet and smart watch into a small cubby and then a young person, almost thugish but dressed in a suit came out with a metal detector wand. He scanned me for "contraband" and then proceeded to take me behind a sliding door into a hallway peppered with rooms. I was take into room Bxxxx. The room, albeit small, is definitely one of the better massage rooms I've been in in ages. There were two chairs, a small vanity table / desk. A decent sized massage bed. Almost the size of a full bed but for massage with the head hole. And nice bathroom with shower and toilet. The shower actually had good water pressure and heat.

After entering, I proceed to clean myself up while awaiting 昆20940; to show up. Within a few minutes, while cleaning my balls, I hear a knock and in comes this gorgeous looking young woman. I'm assuming she's no older than 25 (could be 30 for all I know given that Asian don't raisin). She was about 170 Cm tall wearing a skin hugging black dress that showed off her assets very well. She was almost jessica rabbit proportioned. I was at full salute. She giggled and proceeded to strip down into only her thong.

What followed was a simple massage and "ant crawl" where she slowly tickled my backside leading to her fingers running up and down my pole. This process lasted a few minutes before without prompting or discussing fees, she started licking my testicles from behind. It was incredible. A few minutes of that, she asked me to flip over and started giving me a tongue bath. Her huge tits, felt fake but I couldn't see the marks, were pendulous, swinging back and forth as she moved across my body. I couldn't resist and asked her to "feed me". She obliged and proceed to smother me with her chest. Few minutes later, she got to brass tacks and said that her fee for full service as 8 k and she doesn't just do blowjobs. This was way way expensive, and even for how hot she was, I couldn't justify the spend.

A bit of back and forth and more chest smothering, we came down to 5 k if I'm quick about it. Still expensive, but god damn. After exchanging the bills, she strips down, cleans her self a bit in the shower and tells me to lay on my back, she proceeds to tongue bath my cock like a cat licking catnip, all the while playing with my balls. She eventually motioned to go 69, which I happily obliged. It must've been the anti-bacterial solution she was using but her cooch smelled of lemons and sugar, I couldn't resist licking her pussy lips while she worked up and down my dick. As I licked away, she would twitch ever so cutely with soft moans, it was a massive turn on. At one point, she couldn't resist and just sat directly on my face as I ate her out for a few minutes. She then motioned to put a cap on me and started to mount me. As soon as I entered her tight twat, she squirted. It wasn't a small squirt, it was like a gush of water just hit my pelvis. There was enough force that there was splash back that hit me in the chest and lower chin. She appologized profusely saying that she's quite sensitive. I've never made a working girl squirt before, so it was a huge turn-on and massive confidence builder.

She proceeded to mount me again, ever so slightly, arching herself back and away from me like she was going into cow girl. She proceeded to rub on top me for a few seconds before pulling me out and squirting a second time. Mind you, this wasn't like a stream of pee squirt, but like full on porno squirt, with a force to be reckoned with. I was drenched down there and her twat as tight as it was, was throughly lubricated. We proceeded to go like this with her on top for about 10 minutes before proceededing to her getting on all fours and me going at it from behind. From this angle, her ass was like a peach. It was so good to grab onto it while she tried to get away as she gushed all over my legs. A few minutes of pumping, she fully siezed and climaxed, and as she was, I felt the shivers and squeeze from inside her and I blew my load. Despite how wet she was, she almost squeezed hte condom off me when I pulled out.

Throughly sastified, we engaged in some post sex small talk and then I proceeded to help her change the sheets. We then went to the shower, where she proceeded to clean me with her voluptuous breasts. When she finished washing the soap away, she proceeded to suck me off some more. I came a second time, right onto those tits. As I'm typing this now, my cock is aching from all the action it recieved today.

Nuff said. Mood restored. Confidence boosted. Almost worth the money.

TLDR:

WG: 昆20940;.

Age: stated age by pimp - 22, looked about 25 ish. She said she was 23.

Height: 165+ CM without heels.

Weight: no more than 40-50 kg.

Body type: Slim / Toned 8/10.

Chest: I think they're Fake. Definitely DD's.

Ass: Not flat 7/10.

Service: Full.

Face: 7-8/10.

Blowjob: 8/10 very good! Not enough suction but damn good pole work.

Tightness: 8 - pretty pretty pretty good.

Cost: $$$ total damage was 9200 for 1 HR 30 minutes.

Others: Massage wasn't bad.

Would I return? Probably not. This was way more expensive compared to my usual spending with Mr. Fish. My regular, albeit not as hot as Kun Ling, sets me back about the 7000 for a two hour unlimited shot session and that includes a hotel room and 0 overhead expenses outside of buying condoms.

For those interested. Fish Spa requires Mandarin language abilities. I don't think they take obvious foreigners. I know they do take halfies if language isn't an issue.

You can find Fish Spa if you look up Fish hypen Spa dot club.

Best of luck to ya'll out there.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2877340]Been told I may be laid off after Chinese New Year. Who knows. To fix mood, decided I wanted to go mongering. Hit up my regular 幹37096; Mr. Fish (who's actually a woman) for a quick recommendation. My usual ladies were booked, so I asked for someone who was busty but pretty. Mr. Fish did not disappoint. They directed me to visit 昆20940; kun ling to their Nong'An shop.

Unfortunately there was some traffic and I arrived 30 minutes late. When I arrived, I was kind of lost. The shop was located on level B1, next to a posh Mitsui restaurant. Heading down, I was welcomed into a bright marble decorated place. It felt very strange. Almost like I was walking into one of the nicer offices in the 101.

I proceeded to pay the 台36027; - which in this case was 3200. Stored all my personal items except for my wallet and smart watch into a small cubby and then a young person, almost thugish but dressed in a suit came out with a metal detector wand. He scanned me for "contraband" and then proceeded to take me behind a sliding door into a hallway peppered with rooms. I was take into room Bxxxx. The room, albeit small, is definitely one of the better massage rooms I've been in in ages. There were two chairs, a small vanity table / desk. A decent sized massage bed. Almost the size of a full bed but for massage with the head hole. And nice bathroom with shower and toilet. The shower actually had good water pressure and heat.

After entering, I proceed to clean myself up while awaiting 昆20940; to show up. Within a few minutes, while cleaning my balls, I hear a knock and in comes this gorgeous looking young woman. I'm assuming she's no older than 25 (could be 30 for all I know given that Asian don't raisin). She was about 170 Cm tall wearing a skin hugging black dress that showed off her assets very well. She was almost jessica rabbit proportioned. I was at full salute. She giggled and proceeded to strip down into only her thong.

What followed was a simple massage and "ant crawl" where she slowly tickled my backside leading to her fingers running up and down my pole. This process lasted a few minutes before without prompting or discussing fees, she started licking my testicles from behind. It was incredible. A few minutes of that, she asked me to flip over and started giving me a tongue bath. Her huge tits, felt fake but I couldn't see the marks, were pendulous, swinging back and forth as she moved across my body. I couldn't resist and asked her to "feed me". She obliged and proceed to smother me with her chest. Few minutes later, she got to brass tacks and said that her fee for full service as 8 k and she doesn't just do blowjobs. This was way way expensive, and even for how hot she was, I couldn't justify the spend.

A bit of back and forth and more chest smothering, we came down to 5 k if I'm quick about it. Still expensive, but god damn. After exchanging the bills, she strips down, cleans her self a bit in the shower and tells me to lay on my back, she proceeds to tongue bath my cock like a cat licking catnip, all the while playing with my balls. She eventually motioned to go 69, which I happily obliged. It must've been the anti-bacterial solution she was using but her cooch smelled of lemons and sugar, I couldn't resist licking her pussy lips while she worked up and down my dick. As I licked away, she would twitch ever so cutely with soft moans, it was a massive turn on. At one point, she couldn't resist and just sat directly on my face as I ate her out for a few minutes. She then motioned to put a cap on me and started to mount me. As soon as I entered her tight twat, she squirted. It wasn't a small squirt, it was like a gush of water just hit my pelvis. There was enough force that there was splash back that hit me in the chest and lower chin. She appologized profusely saying that she's quite sensitive. I've never made a working girl squirt before, so it was a huge turn-on and massive confidence builder.

She proceeded to mount me again, ever so slightly, arching herself back and away from me like she was going into cow girl. She proceeded to rub on top me for a few seconds before pulling me out and squirting a second time. Mind you, this wasn't like a stream of pee squirt, but like full on porno squirt, with a force to be reckoned with. I was drenched down there and her twat as tight as it was, was throughly lubricated. We proceeded to go like this with her on top for about 10 minutes before proceededing to her getting on all fours and me going at it from behind. From this angle, her ass was like a peach. It was so good to grab onto it while she tried to get away as she gushed all over my legs. A few minutes of pumping, she fully siezed and climaxed, and as she was, I felt the shivers and squeeze from inside her and I blew my load. Despite how wet she was, she almost squeezed hte condom off me when I pulled out.

Throughly sastified, we engaged in some post sex small talk and then I proceeded to help her change the sheets. We then went to the shower, where she proceeded to clean me with her voluptuous breasts. When she finished washing the soap away, she proceeded to suck me off some more. I came a second time, right onto those tits. As I'm typing this now, my cock is aching from all the action it recieved today.

Nuff said. Mood restored. Confidence boosted. Almost worth the money.

TLDR:

WG: 昆20940;.

Age: stated age by pimp - 22, looked about 25 ish. She said she was 23.

Height: 165+ CM without heels.

Weight: no more than 40-50 kg.

Body type: Slim / Toned 8/10.

Chest: I think they're Fake. Definitely DD's.

Ass: Not flat 7/10.

Service: Full.

Face: 7-8/10.

Blowjob: 8/10 very good! Not enough suction but damn good pole work.

Tightness: 8 - pretty pretty pretty good.

Cost: $$$ total damage was 9200 for 1 HR 30 minutes.

Others: Massage wasn't bad.

Would I return? Probably not. This was way more expensive compared to my usual spending with Mr. Fish. My regular, albeit not as hot as Kun Ling, sets me back about the 7000 for a two hour unlimited shot session and that includes a hotel room and 0 overhead expenses outside of buying condoms.

For those interested. Fish Spa requires Mandarin language abilities. I don't think they take obvious foreigners. I know they do take halfies if language isn't an issue.

You can find Fish Spa if you look up Fish hypen Spa dot club.

Best of luck to ya'll out there.[/QUOTE]You mean 9,200 Hong Kong Dollars, which is 1,178 USD?

[QUOTE=PIpimp;2878420]You mean 9,200 Hong Kong Dollars, which is 1,178 USD?[/QUOTE]Why would someone pay with HKD in Taiwan?

9200 Taiwan Dollars is about 300 USD.

[QUOTE=SedNabokos;2878424]Why would someone pay with HKD in Taiwan?

9200 Taiwan Dollars is about 300 USD.[/QUOTE]My bad. I was just on the Hong Kong thread and got confused. LOL.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2868514]Several times I headed west from Bangka Park across the Xiyuan Road / Guangzhou Street intersection to check out the Huaxi Night Market area. On each visit there was an approximately 50 year old lady standing on the southwest side of the crossing who I nicknamed "Smiley". Big teeth, big smile, big body, and a knee-length dress and support stockings covering her big legs.

She would always beckon me to come with her by tightly grabbing my arm and would not take no as an answer. I would have to use my fingers to pry her strong hands off my arms as I walked away.

Her visual sales pitch was a right index finger poking her closed left hand indicating intercourse and tongue slurping sounds indicating a blow job.

I had seen several somewhat attractive older hookers leading old men up stairs to their lairs, and curiosity got the best of me. $1,000 was a cheap enough price and I had already convinced myself that the service would be terrible, so I figured I had little to lose and was excited to try out a new environment. As Smiley probably doesn't get a lot of customers, I hoped that she would take good care of me. Her persistence wore me down, so I finally agreed to her sales pitch.

As we walked to her building she held my arm tightly. Not like a boyfriend / girlfriend embrace but rather like a police officer leading a potentially fleeing criminal to the squad car. We boarded an elevator to the 6th floor and it opened to a mysterious KTV setup.

A white shirted man lead us to a videoke room with a long curved fake leather couch, then brought a tea pot and two cups. Once the door was locked and the money paid, she sat me down on the couch and immediately began tugging at my belt and unzipping my cargo shorts. She reached into her purse for a bottle of lubricant and set it on the table. Surprisingly, she started sucking without slapping on a condom.

I've had hundreds of blow jobs in my life, but what followed was easily the most amazing one I've ever had. As I began to grow, she stopped and sprayed my cock with lubricant, then started jerking the lower 2/3rd of my cock with her hand while doing a fast swirly sucking motion with her mouth on the upper 1/3rd.

After getting sufficiently hard, I motioned that I was ready for intercourse. Instead of stopping for a condom and laying the couch, she stands up, pulls down her stockings, turns away from me and begins to lower her ass toward my belly, intending to push my penis inside her pussy without a condom.

My previous Chinese providers had extreme phobias about sperm and bare penile contact, so I was extremely shocked by her allowing me to go bareback. But I am a 100% condom-usage guy for intercourse, so I motioned to her to just continue the BJ.

Normally when I get close to exploding, the girl eases up and lets the ooze shoot into the back of her throat. But not this lady. As I got ready to shoot, she kept swirling and sucking at the same rapid rate while continuing to hand-jerk my shaft.

The result was the most amazing oral climax of my life, as her fast mouth and tongue titillated every penile nerve ending. My pelvis shuddered, my legs were shaking, and my brain was convulsing as I exploded into her mouth for around 10 seconds. She just kept sucking away until I indicated she could stop, with no gag reflex. I expected her to spit it onto the floor, but she ended up swallowing every drop.

It took at least 30 seconds to gather my wits and start to recover from the world class BJ. While I was basking in the glow, she immediately pulled up her undergarments, applied fresh lipstick, and yanked me to my feet.

Over the next three days I seriously contemplated taking another streetwalker but could not stop thinking about that blow job. So on my last day in town, I found her again so I could determine whether my response was due to her technique or because of the titillation that comes from doing it in a new place.

Same time of day, same gal, same room, same result.

I have no plans to revisit Taipei but if I do, I'm definitely coming back to find Smiley. I'm sure she'll be working that corner for another 15 years until she qualifies for an old age pension.[/QUOTE]I have a 3 hour 20 minute layover in Taipei in March. Would that be enough time to visit this place?

[QUOTE=PIpimp;2878456]I have a 3 hour 20 minute layover in Taipei in March. Would that be enough time to visit this place?[/QUOTE]Not really. It's about an hour from TPE to Taipei, depending on traffic, then another hour back. Plus depending on how busy the airport is security check could take some time too.

It's a bit too close for comfort.

Probably better to look for a place closer to the airport.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2878473]Not really. It's about an hour from TPE to Taipei, depending on traffic, then another hour back. Plus depending on how busy the airport is security check could take some time too.

It's a bit too close for comfort.

Probably better to look for a place closer to the airport.[/QUOTE]Cool. Thanks a lot!!

Does anyone know any reputable escort agency that has a certain standard on quality?

Hi,

I am an Indian, and a regular in Indian and international forums.

I am coming into Taiwan tomorrow.

Is there a fish spa which will welcome foreigners (I don't know Chinese). Also, some Mr. Fish or equivalent who will help out in English.

Will appreciate the pointers.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2877340]Been told I may be laid off after Chinese New Year. Who knows. To fix mood, decided I wanted to go mongering. Hit up my regular 幹37096; Mr. Fish (who's actually a woman) for a quick recommendation. My usual ladies were booked, so I asked for someone who was busty but pretty. Mr. Fish did not disappoint. They directed me to visit 昆20940; kun ling to their Nong'An shop.

Unfortunately there was some traffic and I arrived 30 minutes late. When I arrived, I was kind of lost. The shop was located on level B1, next to a posh Mitsui restaurant. Heading down, I was welcomed into a bright marble decorated place. It felt very strange. Almost like I was walking into one of the nicer offices in the 101.

I proceeded to pay the 台36027; - which in this case was 3200. Stored all my personal items except for my wallet and smart watch into a small cubby and then a young person, almost thugish but dressed in a suit came out with a metal detector wand. He scanned me for "contraband" and then proceeded to take me behind a sliding door into a hallway peppered with rooms. I was take into room Bxxxx. The room, albeit small, is definitely one of the better massage rooms I've been in in ages. There were two chairs, a small vanity table / desk. A decent sized massage bed. Almost the size of a full bed but for massage with the head hole. And nice bathroom with shower and toilet..[/QUOTE]

Is this is Cesar Park Taipei?

[QUOTE=BrockHansen;2781234]Cesarsworld has been a staple of Taipei for a very longtime. I have visited many times during my 30+ years of traveling to Taiwan. It is relatively clean, safe and in my opinion a relatively good deal. Your experiences may vary depending on the girl that you get. Many of them are on the old side, however there are a few gems to be had. If your initial assigned attendant is not of your liking, don't be afraid to wave her goodbye and they will promptly assign another that may be more to your standards. I have enjoyed my many visits to this spa and always find time to relax in the hot pool before taking up and extracurricular activities. Also, they are extremely accommodating to foreigners. I say give it shot and let me us what you think.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Markt1;2878590]Does anyone know any reputable escort agency that has a certain standard on quality?[/QUOTE]What are you looking for? Most of them are via Line agents or else MR.

[QUOTE=Antiquity;2878809]Is this is Cesar Park Taipei?[/QUOTE]If you google maps for Ceasar Spa, it's at the intersection next to Taipei arena. It comes up with a Chinese name.

[QUOTE=Antiquity;2878804]Hi,

I am an Indian, and a regular in Indian and international forums.

I am coming into Taiwan tomorrow.

Is there a fish spa which will welcome foreigners (I don't know Chinese). Also, some Mr. Fish or equivalent who will help out in English.

Will appreciate the pointers.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]What are you looking for? Incall, outcall, etc. ? As I said to the other poster MR isn't bad just a bit expensive. There is also JKF and some Line agents.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2879056]What are you looking for? Most of them are via Line agents or else MR.[/QUOTE]Yeah, a lot of them are hit and miss. I tried a several. They either use the bait and switch or give me bombs. Range from incall to outcall. Cheap to expensive. I am looking for an agent that is consistent and look out for the customer not to make a quick buck on referral.

I've been less active recently, but still active. Just nothing to write much about. So, I didn't want to bore you with glorified hand job stories.

And, tonight was developing no differently in Wanhua / Kangding / XiChang Market. Overpriced for girls flaunting a rigid attitude that was a bit scary. Very cold night with grey skies, wind and rain. Girls bundled up in layers of clothes. But, you don't have to be Superman with X-ray vision to see what they look like unbundled. Not the traditional Asian girls of the 70's, 80's, 90's, with lean, strong, but lilting bamboo stalk bodies.

Hey, it was cold, and these girls are from the heat of Thailand and Vietnam. Nothing to smile about. Faces like they just sucked on a lemon. And. Asking for 2 k. No way.

In reality, though, what do they have to smile about? An over-abundance of girls; too much competition. Should drive the price down. But it doesn't. And, yet, they still have the audacity to not cozy up to a customer, flirt a little, sweeten the deal, make the negotiation more amicable. Not good business women.

When I had no work, I worked cheaper and ate well. The Huaxi Market down the street, they know about bargaining, closing the deal. But, then again, I get the feeling that these girls are duty-bound to each other, and to their owners, not to discount too much and set a drop in the market price. Also, not to mention the kickbacks they pay to whoever kingpins the operation leaves them with far less. It is an entirely different business model from Huaxi and the Longshan park area.

But. Plenty of police all around. And, those girls, upon seeing the law, were running down the street like mice from a cat. The Diamond Building alleys were ghost towns. Some were ducking into stores and acting like they were buying shoes, clothes, and the like at the sight of the uniformed ladies and gentlemen. Lam And, others more immuned to the patrol were giggling and laughing at their friends running for their lives. And, the police, nonchalantly, aside from making their presence known, continued to stroll leisurely, knowing the fear their uniform engenders.

Anyway, a couple of rare thin young girls caught my attention, but vanished, nowhere to be found after the law passed through. A few diamonds in the rough.

It was getting late and looked like a bust for me. But, I noticed some warm friendly eyes behind a mask. She was probably close to late 30's. Seemed like she knew me and turns out she did. It was my "Long Tall Sally" that I haven't seen in years. She used to rock denim short-shorts and heels with a "Coke" t-shirt in the hot summer months, with her medically-assisted rack tantalizingly filling out that tight t-shirt. Irresistible!

However, she looked a little worn today and not so "long and tall" in her winter garb and sneakers. But, the memories of her passion made it impossible to pass her up.

She remembered me well, as I did her. She was excited when I reminisced specifics about our past. Her body is absolutely gorgeous, an hourglass, awe-inspiring and beautiful flesh. Although, her face has shown wear; teeth needed work.

There was no foreplay. Memory caused an instant erection. We jumped right in, like a seamless continuation from years prior. She is extremely spontaneous, girlish, excitable, very friendly and will adore you, and energetic like the Alkaline Energizer Bunny on steroids. I had to dig in, because she rode strong with glee and spirit. She hopped on the pole cowgirl style and rode it like a drunken greased monkey at the circus. A really good kid. She banged me relentlessly. I contributed absolutely nothing except remaining hard. Not that I am complaining. She just never needed, nor wanted my input.

Could have stayed with her for hours, but the bell rang, recess was over. I really could have used more time, but I will have to say that the 20 minutes was packed full of action, and not a wasted second.

However, I hear you guys booking LINE girls for one hour as low as 3 k, and that is a great price, far better than mine. And, most of these girls in the Longshan area want 2 k for 20 minutes. And, nobody is working. A few offered me 1 k, but I wouldn't be able to sleep for a month if I allowed myself to sink that low.

It was really nice, though, to be with somebody I knew well tonight. But, I'll tell you, she gave me a workout. I don't know if a smartphone can count the number of thrusts she assaulted me with, but I think she might have set a Guinness Book of World Records, in the thousands. I left her like a punch drunk zombie from her relentless onslaught as she released me into the alley, throwing me kisses, waving goodbye, with her pointing me in the right direction, as I tried to reorient myself to spaciousness and cold air, as opposed to her warmth and energy. My body was still vibrating with static kinetic energy from her chargings. She is quite a gal. Not an ounce of fat. A real old-fashioned woman.

Let me tell you, I complain a lot about Wanhua because there are many booby traps there. But, if you are patient, there are a few really nice girls. The nice ones who care seem to be Taiwanese and not imports.

Merry Christmas, Boys! "God Bless us, everyone. ".

P.S. Incidentally, the above quote is from Charles Dickens, "A Christmas Carol. " The best version is all over YouTube for free. It stars Alstair Sims, and was made in 1951. He is really the ultimate tight-fisted Scrooge. And, the back streets of London portrayed in the movie in black and white reminds me of the Wanhua red light district.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2879884]Merry Christmas, Boys! "God Bless us, everyone. ".[/QUOTE]Same to you, have a great holiday and lets hope for a magical 2024 of smiles.

Staying around Linsen and Road. Any decent options around this area that people can recommend?

[QUOTE=SlothWithToes;2880589]Staying around Linsen and Road. Any decent options around this area that people can recommend?[/QUOTE]It's the red light area, there are plenty of people that will approach you while walking there offering girls.

Also depends on what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2880728]It's the red light area, there are plenty of people that will approach you while walking there offering girls.

Also depends on what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Not a guarantee that you will be approached. Depends on who you are, how you look (hint: white skinned older guy or not).

Voluptuous, Vivacious, Vibrant Vietnamese Treat!

Wanhua Doesn't Disappoint in the New Year!

Believe me, in every possible way, I tried to avoid going to Wanhua and opt for a better venue. But, the sheer convenience and variety would not allow me otherwise.

So, after performing my due-diligence via bike surveillance in the Wanhua / Longshan region, I noticed a few lookers on XiChang that I was aiming for. If not for the need to return the bike, (disadvantage of biking, you can only survey, and not secure the girl) I certainly would have opted for the only true spinner that the night possessed in the XiChang Market. Praying that the cutest girl in the entire area would wait for me, or somehow become invisible, or be turned down by every other monger, (praying also that they are all stricken blind for the next 10 minutes) and that I could carry her away to one of those deluxe Wanhua five star alley dungeon bedrooms.

So, upon returning the bike, there definitely is no harm in walking through the Diamond Building alleys, (or is there?) just to be further informed and to be satisfied that I am getting the "crme de la crme," that the night offers.

But, legend has it that: "No man has ever passed through the Diamond Building alleys, without being enticed to tarry there with one of its own. ".

(not really a bonafide "legend," but true in my experience).

The girls in those alleys feel more protected by being more secluded and will throw you some nice playful banter which is thoroughly welcomed. And, they play off of each other. More of a community spirit. (love me some giggly, silly, nonsensical girly banter).

But, I had plans for a few girls that I marked off in the XiChang Market. So, I passed them all by.

Except for the fact that a lone sparkly Vietnamese was atop the stairway flashing smiles, winking, giggling, flirting, so genuinely and delightfully.

I realized that my search was over. I just ain't makin' it back to the XiChang market, at least with any gas left in my tank.

Because, I was smitten; shot through the heart by Cupid's arrow, divested of any will to continue. Stopped dead in my tracks. My fate was determined for me. She just wanted my attention, and I was putty in her hands. Victimized by her charming demeanor. Mesmerized as I was, she could have led me into the very pits of fiery hell.

Walked the stairs, with her looking back at me, smiling, giggling, reassuring me, in case I decided not to close the deal. In the elevator, she shook her hips, used her ass to poke my crotch to see if I stiffened up, and she giggled when she struck wood. (Still in the elevator, mind you).

In the room, closed the door, like a bride and groom ready to copulate for the first time after a two year celibate engagement. We did some grinding with clothes on, and we both knew we were right for each other. Sparks were flying! Stripped down quickly with both of us panting, racing to see who can get naked first. She won! And, What a sight!

Jeeez Louise!

Down to bare skin, standing, grinding, grabbing, hugging, trying our damndest to literally infiltrate each other others' entire body. An impossible task, yet one that forever is played out by lustfully excited happy horny couples.

She was medium height, beautiful skin, late 20's, 1000% natural. Lovely breasts and nice thick hips that begged to be grabbed, squeezed and lightly slapped, spread wide open, and losing my hands the huge valley nestled between her beautifully rounded mounds of sweet derrire firm flesh. She loved having her breasts mauled, squeezed, sucked and kissed. Overall, a gorgeous, tight, irresistible figure.

Finally made it to the bed, and we enjoyed, enjoyed, enjoyed each other. She could never be more accommodating. We went the distance for about 25 minutes, and it got hotter and hotter and hotter in every position. She never limited me. We sped up and slowed down to a slow grind, and into neutral, just to appreciate the glory of the union and appreciation of each other with no movement while fully penetrated, before picking up the pace again and continuing our fast, fun grinding.

Her face was not a classic beauty by any stretch of the imagination. But, who cares? She was a common, sweet, kind, considerate, over-sexed workhorse with a luscious, durable body built for pounding. I like those kinds of girls. No conceit. They lay it all on the line.

From start to finish, a wonderful experience. The standard 1. 5. And, worth every penny. Blew away my blues. We both parted ways, promising to do it all over again, a hug and a kiss. Super nice girl!

After which, I enjoyed some "you-pick-it" cafeteria-style food which was cheap and delightful. But, they burned the red bean dessert soup. But, still good. Had seconds on the burnt red bean soup. I guess, really, no different than roasted coffee beans. Anyway, anything tastes great after that delicious Vietnamese treat!

Can you please name just some street I can look around?

Does it work in daytime?

[QUOTE=Amazake;2885995]Voluptuous, Vivacious, Vibrant Vietnamese Treat!

Wanhua Doesn't Disappoint in the New Year!

Believe me, in every possible way, I tried to avoid going to Wanhua and opt for a better venue. But, the sheer convenience and variety would not allow me otherwise.

So, after performing my due-diligence via bike surveillance in the Wanhua / Longshan region, I noticed a few lookers on XiChang that I was aiming for. If not for the need to return the bike, (disadvantage of biking, you can only survey, and not secure the girl) I certainly would have opted for the only true spinner that the night possessed in the XiChang Market. Praying that the cutest girl in the entire area would wait for me, or somehow become invisible, or be turned down by every other monger, (praying also that they are all stricken blind for the next 10 minutes) and that I could carry her away to one of those deluxe Wanhua five star alley dungeon bedrooms...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dwein;2886512]Can you please name just some street I can look around?

Does it work in daytime?[/QUOTE]In front of Longshan Temple is Guangzhou Road. With your back to the temple, directly in front of the temple is the park and MRT entrance. You will see Street girls.

Still, your back to the temple, on Guangzhou, walk on Guangzhou to your right and you enter the Huaxi Market and look for older girls on your left with the sole intention of separating you from your money and getting you out ASAP. But if you like to drink and sing and know the culture, you will have fun and not get swindled. There are the famous tea houses there, but probably not your cup of tea. (pun intended).

Back in front of the temple with your back to the temple, facing the street girls in the park walk to your left on Guangzhou about 30 seconds and make a left onto the Xichang Market Street which extends to Guilin Road. Girls on your left and right.

You can reach The Diamond Building alleys by making a right into one of the long alleys, walking from Guangzhou to Guilin on Xichang, or you can enter the major alleyway through the entrance on Guilin by the bike shop. Or, you can walk up Kangding Road after making a right from Guilin, and make a right into the Diamond Building or make a right by the Milwaukee sign into the Diamond Building / Kangding alleys.

Also, on Kangding are massage shops and pull-you-in girls after making a right from Guilin.

There are also other hidden enclaves but really not worth mentioning and not very productive.

You just can't miss, if you walk around those areas. They are working days and nights.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2886678]In front of Longshan Temple is Guangzhou Road. With your back to the temple, directly in front of the temple is the park and MRT entrance. You will see Street girls.

Still, your back to the temple, on Guangzhou, walk on Guangzhou to your right and you enter the Huaxi Market and look for older girls on your left with the sole intention of separating you from your money and getting you out ASAP. But if you like to drink and sing and know the culture, you will have fun and not get swindled. There are the famous tea houses there, but probably not your cup of tea. (pun intended).

Back in front of the temple with your back to the temple, facing the street girls in the park walk to your left on Guangzhou about 30 seconds and make a left onto the Xichang Market Street which extends to Guilin Road. Girls on your left and right.

You can reach The Diamond Building alleys by making a right into one of the long alleys, walking from Guangzhou to Guilin on Xichang, or you can enter the major alleyway through the entrance on Guilin by the bike shop. Or, you can walk up Kangding Road after making a right from Guilin, and make a right into the Diamond Building or make a right by the Milwaukee sign into the Diamond Building / Kangding alleys.

Also, on Kangding are massage shops and pull-you-in girls after making a right from Guilin.

There are also other hidden enclaves but really not worth mentioning and not very productive.

You just can't miss, if you walk around those areas. They are working days and nights.[/QUOTE]Calling it a "park" can be confusing to newcomers, since its not a typical park with trees and stuff. Its just a public concretized area.

Was at LST last night after visiting Huaxi Night Market.

Saw a ton of street walkers standing along the side of that "flea market" that takes place behind the Diamond Building. Most were pretty trash, but there were a few that look pretty worth it. Wondering, does anyone have any idea if it's possible to negotiate to goto a nicer hotel for a "rest" instead of back to whereever they're operating out of?

And how much is service in average?

Thank you a lot!

[QUOTE=Amazake;2886678]In front of Longshan Temple is Guangzhou Road. With your back to the temple, directly in front of the temple is the park and MRT entrance. You will see Street girls.

Still, your back to the temple, on Guangzhou, walk on Guangzhou to your right and you enter the Huaxi Market and look for older girls on your left with the sole intention of separating you from your money and getting you out ASAP. But if you like to drink and sing and know the culture, you will have fun and not get swindled. There are the famous tea houses there, but probably not your cup of tea. (pun intended).

Back in front of the temple with your back to the temple, facing the street girls in the park walk to your left on Guangzhou about 30 seconds and make a left onto the Xichang Market Street which extends to Guilin Road. Girls on your left and right.

You can reach The Diamond Building alleys by making a right into one of the long alleys, walking from Guangzhou to Guilin on Xichang, or you can enter the major alleyway through the entrance on Guilin by the bike shop. Or, you can walk up Kangding Road after making a right from Guilin, and make a right into the Diamond Building or make a right by the Milwaukee sign into the Diamond Building / Kangding alleys.

Also, on Kangding are massage shops and pull-you-in girls after making a right from Guilin.

There are also other hidden enclaves but really not worth mentioning and not very productive.

You just can't miss, if you walk around those areas. They are working days and nights.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2886818]Was at LST last night after visiting Huaxi Night Market.

Saw a ton of street walkers standing along the side of that "flea market" that takes place behind the Diamond Building. Most were pretty trash, but there were a few that look pretty worth it. Wondering, does anyone have any idea if it's possible to negotiate to goto a nicer hotel for a "rest" instead of back to whereever they're operating out of?[/QUOTE]Of course, anything is possible, and there are pimps around to tailor your needs. And, I have met certain girls with an apartment lease as opposed to these "rooms" who accommodate longer stay, and even "the night. ".

But, all that is more rare. The area is a quick turnaround area. The girls form a certain clique, or sisterhood with their fellow countrywomen from their country of origin. They make their deal with you, and their sisters congratulate them on catching a fish, everybody usually laughs jovially if you are a western foreign customer. Her friends are marking the time for their sister's safety. You and she perform your "blessed act" for around 20 minutes and are rudely reminded by her set alarm. After which, she receives a call (s) from her sisters checking in her state. You might get a quick shower, and you might leave first, or together, and she returns to the sorority for a debriefing. If you are a foreigner, oftentimes the sisterhood waiting for their sister's return are all chuckling and excited to hear about oddities of the session compared to their more routine Asian clients' session.

But, there are also "lone wolves" in the area with no sorority to return to. Usually mainlanders or Taiwanese. They have a different vibe. Less in a hurry, calling their own game, no one to report to. But, they are more rare. I do enjoy their demeanor more. They are more relaxed and want to keep a client and a few minutes more and even a little massage and a leisurely genital wash, before and after, are performed.

And, as with any relationship, "chemistry" oftentimes determines the quality and extra amenities in any given session. If she likes you, the "hurry" is replaced by savoring the session, and that magical metaphorical "doorway" opens, and your session transforms from a hump and dump to a loving relatedness with a very open loving human being.

[QUOTE=Dwein;2886858]And how much is service in average?

Thank you a lot![/QUOTE]Predominantly the price is usually $1500 NT. In Huaxi it is around $1000 NT, but, they like to tap you for extras, for tea, et cetera. But, in Kangding, it is the standard 1500. However, there was a period where they wanted 2000 and more, especially for a foreign guy. I never pay more than 1500, on principle alone. I have been offered odd figures like 1200,1800. There is an older lady in the park who does like a $500 HJ in a tea house. But, she goes out of her way to make it as unpleasant as possible.

So, prices vary. Basically it is between $1000 NT to $2000 NT, with $1500 NT being the most common. But, I was quoted $3000 NT, to which I burst out laughing, and she looked relieved that I did not accept. Basically, she was saying that she doesn't like foreign clients.

And this means 20 mins one shot?

[QUOTE=Dwein;2886858]And how much is service in average?

Thank you a lot![/QUOTE]Predominantly the price is usually $1500 NT. In Huaxi it is around $1000 NT, but, they like to tap you for extras, for tea, et cetera. But, in Kangding, it is the standard 1500. However, there was a period where they wanted 2000 and more, especially for a foreign guy. I never pay more than 1500, on principle alone. I have been offered odd figures like 1200,1800. There is an older lady in the park who does like a $500 HJ in a tea house. But, she goes out of her way to make it as unpleasant as possible.

So, prices vary. Basically it is between $1000 NT to $2000 NT, with $1500 NT being the most common. But, I was quoted $3000 NT, to which I burst out laughing, and she looked relieved that I did not accept. Basically, she was saying that she doesn't like foreign clients.

[QUOTE=Dwein;2887007]And this means 20 mins one shot?[/QUOTE]Good question, but, unfortunately, I can't answer. At my age, I am not firing a fast loading automatic weapon. I am operating more a slow loading musket firearm. Takes me at least 20 minutes, if not longer to get off a round. And, by the time I reload, the cows will be coming home after being out to pasture. Sorry for the inarticulate analogy, but I am sure you get my point.

Some girls give you the full 20 minutes, and probably will accommodate a second round. Because, that certainly is implied in the oral contract. But, if a girl is unwilling for any reason, unfortunately, there is no Customer Service desk or Better Business Bureau to air your grievances.

Possibly, it is better to get that straightened out that you require two shots in twenty minutes in the negotiation stage before entering the room. That way, she is prepared to accommodate you.

[QUOTE=Analyzer123;2886812]Calling it a "park" can be confusing to newcomers, since its not a typical park with trees and stuff. Its just a public concretized area.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you are right. Not many trees in the area. And, it has so many names. Just a few: Mengxia Park, Mengjia Park, Bangka Park, Mangka Park, Longshan Temple Park, Manga Park. And, you probably can add to the list. Many homeless in that area. But, hot meals are constantly provided, along with bakery items.

Listen up, men.

Was surveying the Longshan scene on Saturday, and it was a carnival!

The temple was overflowing, bustling with visitors, the faithful, the monks, the chanters, calligraphers, tour buses, foreigners, locals, food everywhere, et cetera.

And the girls, something for everyone. And, not all second and third tiers. There were plenty of first-round draft picks. (It's the NFL playoffs, so please forgive my metaphors).

Yes, there were lookers, and boy oh boy, did I look. Spotted a Thai "peahen" of such rare beauty and youth. It was her or nothing. She refused me. I begged her, but to no avail. Broken-hearted, although there were plenty of runner-ups, I could not be consoled, nor move on. Very young with no miles. Well, no use in crying over spilt milk. I did my best.

However, let me just say, this was quite a night. Girls were not merely hanging around. They were falling off the shelves. The local boys were all around, out and about, courting the girls to their rooms. And, I watched my precious Thai, stollen by a Taiwanese gentleman who obviously was more appealing than myself.

Now, you western boys, I must confront you all, because I saw plenty of you out there with your smartphones, AI-ing the gals. Lots of westerners mongering in the streets. More than I have ever seen before.

Must be in preparation for the Lunar New Year Celebration that brought everyone out, coupled with it being Saturday night. I mean, I just have not seen such action in a long time. Saw four or five lads scoop up the same number of girls in one-fell-swoop.

And, as far as law enforcement, well, everybody was given a free pass to celebrate the night away.

If any of you boys were out and scored, step forward and please report. Your input adds great value to the thread.

Hey I'm back in linkou next week for a little bit. I have no idea how JKF works and I cannot read chinese. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Jizzme;2889165]Hey I'm back in linkou next week for a little bit. I have no idea how JKF works and I cannot read chinese. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Google translate can help with that site, if you're using Chrome browser.

It's been over 5 years since I've visited. Can anyone advise what's still good or changed?

Is Ceasar's World still open and running? I knew an old cheaper sauna in Taoyuan, "Dihao Spa" but Google maps says it looks to be closed. Know of any others?

Is there still Yuki's outcall?

How about shacks?

Foreigner friendly KTV?

Went to Wanhua in serious need of a woman. Back a few days was rejected by three top-notch young Thai providers who ran from this foreigner as if I was Jack The Ripper.

Psychological Complex set right in due to rejection. (woe is me! Dr. Freud? Dr. Phil? God? Anybody at all?

So, that past experience was plaguing me.

Hit the park across from the holy Longshan Temple which is now overtaken by the Thai overflow from the Xichang Market. And, saw a familiar gait. She gained some weight, but no problem, because she was once painfully too skinny. Haven't seen her in a year. Decided then and there that the search was over before it started.

But, being mischievous, and her not seeing me yet, I scooted past her so she could only see my back and my gait.

Bingo, I hear her huffing and puffing, running after me. I acted shocked, and told her that I was shocked to see her, which I was. Told her that I come everyday looking for her. (well, not every day, but I have been looking for her) And, finally, "I was worried about you! To which, she fought back tears and embraced me in the middle of the open air park to be shown in every cinema at a theater near you, internet and television. And, I really am not seeking that genre of infamy.

But, what can I do? I did share the same emotions. After all, we have been together countless times, being energetically very well paired.

Went back to her apartment and made love for about 45 minutes to an hour, non-stop. Supposed to be 20 minutes, but we both could not stop. And, she gave me the standard 1500 rate for old-times sake.

She probably has enough of a clientele base now to avoid street walking and competing with the Thai insurgence in the park. She gave me her phone number for the umpteenth time. But, allowing her access to my phone number is not a good idea. She might decide to call me when business is slow. I go out to these areas only at my own leisure, convenience and schedule. And, even though she satisfies me always well beyond my wildest dreams, because she is, with no doubt, a relentless, skilled, compassionate lover, I do love some variety.

After our endless hugging and very affectionate goodbyes that would make a romantic soap opera yawn in disgust, we departed.

Not wanting to waste that fantastic post-sex magnetic afterglow, I waltzed on over to the Xichang Matket to see what was available. I felt happy and carefree. Approached a young possibly Vietnamese girl. (not as young as the three Thais that I was rejected by) She said she would do me for 2 k, and in no way looked intimidated by me. (that sexual afterglow is quite powerful and compelling, and better than even an expensive aftershave lotion) I refused and countered with 1500. She refused.

Anyway, no need to be greedy. Hopefully, it's not my last day on planet earth. I had enough, anyway. My 40-something Mainland Chinese old-school lover, while certainly not a fast and furious partner, gave me a powerful wave of bliss to ride home on.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2890195]Anyway, no need to be greedy. Hopefully, it's not my last day on planet earth. I had enough, anyway. My 40-something Mainland Chinese old-school lover, while certainly not a fast and furious partner, gave me a powerful wave of bliss to ride home on.[/QUOTE]Magical. There should be a documentary about your encounters, they really do sound great and the girls do like you as well.

[QUOTE=Analyzer123;2890698]He has a wild imagination. The actually experience in Taiwan including wanhua is shitty. Useless downright ugly Hags or spinners with no interest or skills whatsoever.[/QUOTE]You have to see the Taiwan scene for what it is, and take it with a grain of salt. Make the best of it.

What is available, while not being prime rib, is still still basic meat. And, scraps of meat can still be rendered "tasty" if you prepare it right, stew it maybe.

I am no expert. I know nothing of what is done electronically. From what you younger guys report on this site, quality and youth is available at prices I am unwilling to pay. Hence, Wanhua, albeit not Las Vegas, is an alternative.

I never went to places like Caesars or the like, Linsen North Road, and seldom visit the higher end spas.

I am relegated to the streets of Wanhua, mostly. Yeah, it's mostly "junk food," if you may. But, it's the only game in town for myself. So, I take it for what it is and make the best of it. I surely ain't savvy enough to hop flights to Vietnam and Thailand, Philippines and the like, and play around learning and testing those streets. I only have where I am, and I make the best of it. I study what is before me. I am okay with it all. I am happy to have this outlet. I am not fussy. I don't need the "crème de la crème. " The "girl next door" has always suited me just fine. She gets just as hot as any princess when tickled right and treated with respect. She unleashes her nectar and passion, not because of me, (sometimes in spite of my presence) but because she is a natural woman designed by nature to do that. My "imagination" cannot succeed or impede her natural sexual process. I pay to be there!

Many times, I find nothing, and I just go home. I am not operating on a wealthy budget. I learned to survive on simple fare, a bowl of rice and whatever side dishes are available.

Huaxi is for old men, stocked mostly with old women. That being said, I have still found girls there in their twenties. Sometimes I am just lucky, but mostly because I just keep on, methodically, plodding, panning for gold, which for most is archaic, especially for the younger guys buying mail order brides off the internet. I am still willing to "pan," like an old grizzly geezer prospector, convinced that "there's gold in dem dar hills. ".

And, after sifting endlessly through many scoops of water, mud, sand and dirt, I usually, eventually, by the end of the evening, come up with some "pay dirt," just a flake or two of usable gold. For a guy on the cheap and going pretty often, that is the only way I know how to do it.

A girlfriend might be a better route for some, but the entanglement is stifling. I have already suffered that experience many times. I have never won. They want your soul. Wanhua only wants your spare change.

I don't go to Huaxi much, because it can be a jungle, with older women abducting you, offering bargain basement prices, and then upping the ante in the stinking, rotting tearoom, which for this "romantic," is pure ambiance. But, if I know a girl there and we can get it on and she looks decent, albeit older, and she sticks to a price, this older foreigner will not be fussy and actually thrive and enjoy her company. I am not ashamed to admit that some of those women treat their repeat customers pretty grand. Their appreciation and wanting to keep a client, boils over into giving you time and attention.

However, the Diamond Building and Xichang Market are a different story. They saw better days, but, if you are willing to survey the area, walk around for an hour or two, enjoy the hunt, there is no doubt that you will find girls in their twenties from nearby nations, visiting Taiwan to make some money. Yeah, many are moms in their thirties that I turn away from. But, you will find young pretty girls, diamonds in the rough. The only problem is, if they are too young and petite, they turn this westerner down. So, I keep on searching.

You say it is only my "imagination. " I can't agree with you on that. What I will say is that the pretties are few and far between. So, you have no other choice, if you want the 1500 special, to be calm, long-suffering and willing to devote time and effort to the process of finding someone to your liking.

I am certainly not going to pay many thousands of Taiwanese dollars for a service, especially if I need to go often and I actually do enjoy the hunt. The hunt for me is interesting. I am patient in that respect, because I enjoy watching the girls, the scene, the vendors, the culture, the food, the night out on the town. The hunt for girls reveals many tangential discoveries about Taiwan, the neighborhood, and its peoples.

Once I find a girl, she could be a dud, but I will make the best of a bad situation, and derive at least some pleasure from her. But, predominantly, I find that when a man and woman finally feel safe together, make the deal, the facade falls away, and hormones and nature takes its course, and you can't really add or subtract from the power of that basic mating thrill and instinct. It has the jungle quality at its root, but can be tweaked by your human input. It is not "imagination," as you put it. It is "sex! It is appreciation that you have an agreeable girl / woman in your grasp and you are performing the act of sexual intercourse with her. That, by itself, needs nothing added to it or embellished upon by "imagination. " No imagination or contrivance can really affect that. If there is chemistry, there is sexual pleasure. I know of no way to "imagine" into being what is not "actually" before me.

Your point, I think, though, is that I describe my experiences with too many scented flowery terms. But, honestly speaking, sex with a woman, for me, is pretty exciting, fulfilling and satisfying. It's so visceral and real with no dependency on any "imagination" whatsoever.

I never said that Wanhua is a monger's paradise. But, if you don't mind searching, you will find.

You, yourself, have assisted me with many pointers on the Taiwan and Wanhua scene. I appreciate your generosity.

I contribute my experiences here, as it might assist others, as so many others in the Taiwan thread have assisted me.

[QUOTE=Analyzer123;2890698]He has a wild imagination. The actually experience in Taiwan including wanhua is shitty. Useless downright ugly Hags or spinners with no interest or skills whatsoever.[/QUOTE]I had some shitty experiences in Wanhua, not going to lie. But you have to take the place for what it is. Once you get more familiar with how things work there, then you will find some beautiful and genuinely skilled providers.

Just like Amazake said, it's a low-budget street food place where you can grab a quick bite. There's a good chance that on some days you just won't find what you are looking for. If that happens, I'll usually just go home and call it a day. Yet there is lots of variety and a pretty steady flow of fresh talent from TH or VN. They will usually stay for 2 weeks and return for a couple of times per year. If you find one you like, ask for her LINE and she'll be happy to message you when she's back in town. This way you'll have a pool of reliable providers over time.

Stay safe and have a great day!

[QUOTE=LennyLein;2890882]I had some shitty experiences in Wanhua, not going to lie. But you have to take the place for what it is. Once you get more familiar with how things work there, then you will find some beautiful and genuinely skilled providers.

Just like Amazake said, it's a low-budget street food place where you can grab a quick bite. There's a good chance that on some days you just won't find what you are looking for. If that happens, I'll usually just go home and call it a day. Yet there is lots of variety and a pretty steady flow of fresh talent from TH or VN. They will usually stay for 2 weeks and return for a couple of times per year. If you find one you like, ask for her LINE and she'll be happy to message you when she's back in town. This way you'll have a pool of reliable providers over time.

Stay safe and have a great day![/QUOTE]Well, it was bound to happen, as Analyzer123, and LennyLein brought up in the past few days, "a shitty experience in Wanhua. ".

While walking through Huaxi, gullible me forgot that you can't believe a word some of those wicked older SW's say.

One darted out and I refused her as always. But, she pulled me over and offered 600 all in. The price was too good to refuse. I questioned her extensively on the terms and she was excited and pleasant and compliant in the street, like a used car salesman smoking a cigar, throwing in a new radio and a paint job. But, as the quote goes, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. " And, that applies to this situation.

Immediately upon entering the room, because I only had a 1 k bill, handed it to her and she refused to give me my change and tugged on my pants to get started with the deed. She was like a whirlwind of confusion. I insisted on my change of 400, and tried to appeal to her sense of honor and implored her to keep her deal. She begrudgingly gave me back 300, keeping an extra hundred. This was going south fast. The guy comes in with water and she orders me to pay him 100. I told her to pay him. She became enraged like a pit bull.

Yanked on my manhood, started the HJ to the tune of her berating me, moaning and complaining, non stop berating me. I told her to just complete it, and I will be gone. She went back to work with one hand and I felt her other hand in my pocket, trying to steal my wallet. When I pulled her hand out she got even angrier, like my wallet belonged to her and she was only rescuing it.

Then she left me in limbo, let me erection deflate, refused to continue without giving her the full 1 k. I reminded her of her street promise of 600, at least 10 times. Tried to get some of my money back and leave. She was grabbing at my wallet as I clenched it. I had no discipline to just leave, so I tolerated the continuous argument hoping to just finish and I could leave. She offered a BJ for the full 1 k, and full service. I agreed on the BJ. After all that, full-service with her was not desirable to me. She did not want to use a condom. I insisted. Buried her head in my crotch and there was finally serenity and peace because her mouth was full and she could not speak, and I was allowed to put some nice pressure on her bobbing head. She got the job done. Was angry about the pressure on her the back of her head. But the ordeal was over.

Totally my fault for trying to grab a bargain. My regulars there are honest and abide by their word. Honestly speaking, we parted company kind of chummy, thanking each other. No use in being angry. Her's is a plight for survival. I do understand that. Her motive is to bring you in under the guise of a bargain and wear you down with complaints while your pants are down until you submit to her financial desires. That is the way of some of the Huaxi ladies, but not all. So, be careful.

Found a exotic looking girl on Line. Asking 7 k for full service. Negotiated down to $3 k. Arrived at her hotel, and wow when she opened the door in some sexy lingerie with great playful attitute. She's 50% Filipino and 50% japanese / Brazilian. Had the cup naturals with absolutely perfect shape, nice round Brazilian ass, and Japanese and Hispanic facial features, and caramel skin and around 100 lbs at 5'2". Some small talk on the bed then hit the shower alone. When I came out she was naked in bed laying on her side facing me with the hand propping her head up like some victoria secret ad. Total smokeshow. Asked me join her in her sexy voice. Enjoyed her body for a bit before CBJ. Asked to kiss and her to sit on my face. She said it wasn't included in the discounted $3 k price and asked for $2 k more. Tried to resist but gave in after 30 seconds LOL. Ate her from below while enjoying the view of her titties and face. Eventually she moved down and grinded my shaft. As things got hotter and hotter she started pushing my tip against her opening. Reminded her to put a condom on before going in. Well things got a bit too hot and I eventually pushed myself inside her against better judgment. She was tight, wet and flexible. Made some sounds of pleasure which was nearing over the top. Ended up pulling out twice and cumming twice onto her tummy.

I'm a novice but she delivered exactly what I wanted in a smoking package. I did find another hottie at Diamond building but $2 k bought 20 min with little enthusiasm and big tattoo on her chest. $5 k is nearly the price I pay in the US. Did I overpay?

On a serious note. To be safe I should get tested before going back to my regular life in the states. Can someone share where I can get tested for reasonable price in Taipei. If I use my Taiwan NHI will it go on my record? How about self pay options and how much do they cost?

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2891677]
On a serious note. To be safe I should get tested before going back to my regular life in the states. Can someone share where I can get tested for reasonable price in Taipei. If I use my Taiwan NHI will it go on my record? How about self pay options and how much do they cost?[/QUOTE]There are a few places to get tested, and it depends on what you want to test. There is Minsheng clinic in Songshan Taipei that does anonymous testing, it's quite expensive (5-7 K NTD) and exposure has to be more than 10 days ago. If it's longer, like a month or more, then the cost goes down.

Hospitals can do it as well, just go see a GP and ask for a STD test. Some of them you need to convince to do the tests, as they just feel it's not needed. Cost should be around 300-500 NTD depending on the hospital, and results will be on NHI.

As the Longshan Temple area is ramping up for the Lunar New Year celebration which looks to be grand, it appears that many upgrades in the area are underway. Not sure if they are temporary or permanent.

But, one nice change is at the very top of the Xichang Market T-intersection with Guangzhou, is a newly-installed sort of MASH-style canteen tented restaurant with plastic chairs and tables. A simple quick delightful outdoor restaurant serving a simple menu of "You Tiao" and "Dou Jiang," that popular breakfast combo in Taiwan, the deep fried dripping with oil cruller and a hot bowl of soybean milk.

It is great comfort food pre or post mating, or a place to console oneself and drown one's sorrows like the the other night when a beautiful very very early twenties Thai still wearing her baby braces on her teeth refused this dastardly waiguoren in no uncertain terms, not even a pause for consideration, with a look like "not even for a million dollars, a luxury car, a new home and a yacht! And, my consolation prize was greasy fried dough and soybean milk. It was comforting and allowed me to move on.

For those who don't know. The Taiwan version of Line does not have People Nearby function, the US version (at least) have it.

I met a pair of sisters and had fun together. Price as reasonable and it was my first time doing two at the same time. Sad that I wasn't able to dip back and forth but it was still a great experience. I asked them if they knew any other girls and they said they can bring another in if I wanted. It's a dream that's going to stay a dream as two was enough to handle LOL.

A few weeks ago I experienced LongShan. Price was 2 k NT for 20 min. Girl was pretty hot but service could have been better. Is this the typical price and time to expect from Longshan scene?

I passed by longshan area and didn't see anything worthwhile. There were a lot of old people sitting around on the benches. I saw a couple of pretty old women that had a lot of makeup on. I did see maybe one or two southeast Asian ladies but they were busy on the phone and weren't interacting. I didn't stay long. Maybe I was in the wrong area.

I might just try to score with LINE via this site I found or just go to Caesars or one of the saunas.

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2891677]Found a exotic looking girl on Line. Asking 7 k for full service. Negotiated down to $3 k. Arrived at her hotel, and wow when she opened the door in some sexy lingerie with great playful attitute. She's 50% Filipino and 50% japanese / Brazilian. Had the cup naturals with absolutely perfect shape, nice round Brazilian ass, and Japanese and Hispanic facial features, and caramel skin and around 100 lbs at 5'2". Some small talk on the bed then hit the shower alone. When I came out she was naked in bed laying on her side facing me with the hand propping her head up like some victoria secret ad. Total smokeshow. Asked me join her in her sexy voice. Enjoyed her body for a bit before CBJ. Asked to kiss and her to sit on my face. She said it wasn't included in the discounted $3 k price and asked for $2 k more. Tried to resist but gave in after 30 seconds LOL. Ate her from below while enjoying the view of her titties and face. Eventually she moved down and grinded my shaft. As things got hotter and hotter she started pushing my tip against her opening. Reminded her to put a condom on before going in. Well things got a bit too hot and I eventually pushed myself inside her against better judgment. She was tight, wet and flexible. Made some sounds of pleasure which was nearing over the top. Ended up pulling out twice and cumming twice onto her tummy.

I'm a novice but she delivered exactly what I wanted in a smoking package. I did find another hottie at Diamond building but $2 k bought 20 min with little enthusiasm and big tattoo on her chest. $5 k is nearly the price I pay in the US. Did I overpay?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2892410]For those who don't know. The Taiwan version of Line does not have People Nearby function, the US version (at least) have it.

I met a pair of sisters and had fun together. Price as reasonable and it was my first time doing two at the same time. Sad that I wasn't able to dip back and forth but it was still a great experience. I asked them if they knew any other girls and they said they can bring another in if I wanted. It's a dream that's going to stay a dream as two was enough to handle LOL.

A few weeks ago I experienced LongShan. Price was 2 k NT for 20 min. Girl was pretty hot but service could have been better. Is this the typical price and time to expect from Longshan scene?[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate on how you found the LINE ladies? And are they local Taiwanese or visitors?

As for Longshan, Amazake says 1.5 k is typical. And wow, you find good quality for 5 k NT in the states??

Walked through some on the alleys of LongShan on new years day eve. Saw many shops with what looks like a common area, lockers, and long row of doors that looks like leads to rooms. Visitors all look local. What are these shops for?

What happens at tea ceremonies?

Was approached by many old mamasans offering girls. Are these girls of any youth and quality?

What's the best way to score some young 18-22 yr old girls?

On JFK, I encounter some agencies but seems like they want to verify me with my work details. Is this the norm? I don't even have work in Taiwan so just told them to forget it.

Quality is a very subjective term in the US. A lot is based on location in US and what you're looking for. Though rule of thumb it's more affordable outside of US.

Just my two cents and it might be because of where I'm staying, but when I visited Japan last year, there were way more girls dressed up hanging around subway / train stations that appeared to be more approachable. Honestly I feel like LINE / social media has driven most ladies in Taiwan underground to away from public so to speak. Dunno just my observation.

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2891677]Found a exotic looking girl on Line...[/QUOTE]Mind sharing her Line ID?

Or places where you can find such IDs?

[QUOTE=Heisenberg420;2893076]Mind sharing her Line ID?

Or places where you can find such IDs?[/QUOTE]Line does not allow you to look up other's Line IDs.

On Android, open Line Home See all (under services). People Nearby should be near the bottom of the list.

I leave my location on and scooter around the city often therefore I don't know where they actually friend request me. Seems to me they're mostly around ximen, wanhua district, and Zhongshan district.

[QUOTE=Jizzme;2892985]Just my two cents and it might be because of where I'm staying, but when I visited Japan last year, there were way more girls dressed up hanging around subway / train stations that appeared to be more approachable. Honestly I feel like LINE / social media has driven most ladies in Taiwan underground to away from public so to speak. Dunno just my observation.[/QUOTE]Another aspect is that paying for sex services is widely considered not cheating as long as there is no feelings involved. Also, I believe most of the girls you see on the street are from hostess bars.

[QUOTE=Analyzer123;2893471]Haha yes. Don't get me wrong. I don't mean to say you're lying. But yes flowery language in the best way to put it, at least for some of the times, from your perspective. My perspective there has been 180 opposite such that I don't bother anymore. Girls on JKF line and other Talk to you later at massage parlors are way better. Plus the rooms they take you to in wanhua suck. Dirty, ill maintained toilets, no proper towels provided. Why bother.[/QUOTE]Massage parlors are very nice. And, that's where I started mongering many decades ago.

I agree with you if you are saying that Wanhua is deteriorating quite quickly. But, you can't deny that when you hit the right girl or even get your regular there, a good time can be had. My success rate there is high because I am willing to walk away from the girls with a half-dead gaze, albeit with an otherwise fine looking face and body.

I have found that on the street, you must find chemistry, at least in a bit of a smile from her or some other indication or attraction that indicates that she will be agreeable and fun once the door is closed.

But, the prices for bratty, self-important, prima donnas are continually on the rise. Best is to keep a strong regular that treats you like an honored guest. My sweet regular there calls me "elder brother" when she heats up during the action. Kind of a kinky twist, but it is a turn on for myself to enter into that scenario, having sort of an Asian adopted younger sister. It adds to the relatedness. Makes me wonder what went on in her home growing up.

Honestly speaking, as odd as it may sound, I almost always have a good time, as long as I go in there strong and confident. When you are feeling strong and confident, you create your own experience.

The New Year's celebrations there are a really spectacle this year. It is a real carnival. Sometimes a good therapeutic massage is fine for like 70 minutes or 90 minutes for around 700 to 1000 NT, and an HJ for another 500. Because, at least you got to spend more than an hour with a woman and you walk away feeling good from a true therapeutic massage with hints and teasing that the ending will be intense and satisfying.

Those non-therapeutic massage joints are oftentimes hit or miss. The massage is light finger pressure and the negotiations for hand, mouth or full service can be a pricey menu. But, if you know the girl or you are going based on a good recommendation, a great time could be had in all phases.

The reviews on Massage Republic can't be trusted in my experience, and there are few reviews anyway.

So I was hoping anyone here can recommend a girl currently in Taipei advertising on MR or Euro Girls?

Just so my monthly visit to Ximen will be a pleasant one this time around.

Or -also helpful- warn me against any of them.

I've tried massage parlors and the Longshan area, but I still prefer the Massage Republic or Euro Girls Escort websites, as I don't like the walking around, and prefer to negotiate online while sitting on my comfortable sofa. I endulge myself maybe once a month.

I've mostly had good experiences, but lately I've gotten a lot of girls who share rooms with other girls, and then try to upsell me to do a threesome, which I don't like. I refuse, but they keep insisting. I say 'No' three more times, and if they keep nagging I find myself a lot less in the mood for sex. I mean, I still want to and will still do so, but I enjoy it so much more if the chemistry is right, and the upselling is kept to a minimum. Also, often the other girl or girls hide in the bathroom or even sleeps in the bed next to us while we're having sex. That also doesn't help me to focus on the girl and all that is pleasant.

Once the girl that opened the door was almost twice the size of what was shown in her photos. It was the same girl, but several years older and about 20 kg heavier. I don't like girls that are too skinny, but this was just false advertising. I still had fun, but my imagination had to step in to help out.

I'm currently eyeing several girls: 'Keemashley', 'Dior / SunMi', 'Jasmine Dior', 'Mei Lin', 'Angel', 'Aki', 'Kali Cute' and 'Mei / Kawkawan' (not their real names I imagine). All look great in their photos, but hard to tell how dated some of those are, and some are obviously touched up (not unlike their breasts).

From experience I can only really recommend Kaori Umlas. I had plenty of other good ones, but I have to admit I forgot most of their names (just like they have no doubt forgotten me).

I stopped by again wondering if I could score after meeting at w LINE provider. First, I have to say the LINE groups are BS. They play games and the lady I got was awful. I end up getting a 3 k handjob.

Anyways I revisited longshan area and there are quite a few standing in the background of the neighboring street or block crevices. The foreigners were not aggressive. The old haggard Taiwanese ladies were more in the mood to make eye contact. One mamasan pulled me into a room and tried to upsell me a blowjob for 1 k. Anyways the more I walked the more I felt like I was going to catch some disease. I guess I struck out. I should have just went to Caesars or one of the saunas.

Would never lie to you, boys. Just when I was almost finished with Wanhua, she comes through in a big way. Sparkling youth and beauty, competitive with anything I have seen in real life and throughout the internet.

In the Diamond Building area, not the greatest assortment, and I searched and scoured the area and my time was running out. Going to walk away, and that's okay.

But, as fate would have it, a spied a very young 21 year old baby gorgeous Thai.

But, that means nothing to me, and I learned not to get my hopes up, because the young petite, unsullied, unblemished, near-virgin beauties seldom give this mountain goat a chance.

But, in her naive innocence, bright-eyed and smiling from ear to ear, she said "yes. ".

Until she notified her group, "The United Committee of Thai Streetwalkers," (hereinafter referred to as TUCOTS) who vetoed her decision and called her back.

I pleaded and protested. Some nearby Taiwanese guys found the drama interesting and gathered into the conversation, just loving it. One of the elder sister members of TUCOTS (The United Committee of Thai Streetwalkers) warned her that the "waiguoren" (foreign people) are usually hung like a donkey. I retorted with a laugh and assured the sisterhood of TUCOTS that I am nothing to be feared.

The Taiwanese pedestrians just loved the banter back and forth between myself and "The United Committee of Thai Streetwalkers," discussing the length and width of my manhood for the entire community to take note of, including the food vendors. Seems like I now need board approval and not just girl approval.

It was a very slow night and the pretty young Thai wanted the money but was obedient to the elder more protective sisterhood of "The United Committee of Thai Streetwalkers. ".

Then, realizing that customers are few and far between, the eldest sister of TUCOTS revoked the prior veto and granted the waiguoren permission to fork over the 1500 for 20 minutes play.

This is a milestone for me, the first and only time I was given permission after an initial refusal. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

I haven't been with a girl this young and this beautiful in a very long time. They are there in small numbers, but always refuse me outright.

In the room, I showered her with kindness and assured her that this will be pleasant because she outright told me that she is afraid. I convinced her that I am as benevolent as Santa Claus. Thai's love smiles and happiness and generosity and ease and levity surrounding love play. I have noticed that in their culture. Sex is seen as fun and recreational. No overburdening of morals attached.

I guess, for her age, and lack of experience and possibly the fear instilled by the warnings of the members of the TUCOTS sisterhood, she found me to be more than she is comfortable with entering her "palace of pleasures. ".

To alleviate her fears, I agreed to not get on top of her and not to thrust, and allow her to take only as much as she feels comfortable with.

She was smiley and game and passionate but told me she is scared.

She got on top and pleasured herself joyfully, starting with a little penetration and taking on more and more, as she got wetter and wetter, gaining confidence and losing control, surrendering joyously yet hesitantly into the experience. There were absolutely no mind games on either side.

She was confident that I am a kind, friendly, non-threatening guy, and having waded herself into deeper waters, she took the length, muttered that there was some pain, but almost instantly ignored the pain and with an expression of delight on her young beautiful face, began to ride gleefully.

Her young whimpers and little breaths and panting were like the sound of the first early morning songbirds. As she became more and more comfortable with me, we agreed that I could top her, but with limited entry. When she said it hurt, I backed off.

For myself, it is just what I needed; restored lost confidence that I would ever touch a girl so many decades younger than myself again. Also, to be with such innocence and sweetness.

She asked for a tip because we agreed to no nipple.

Kissing and sucking and love pecking. But, in the heat of passion, we both could not resist. I gave her a little more. She was happy.

I treated her like the beautiful young princess that she is. It never got rambunctious. It remained a second-by-second intimate lovely experience. It was something I never expected to receive.

I'm in one of those moods to start doing a tour of the red light districts. This year of the Dragon is starting off wild. Sure hope I make it to the end. Passion is burning like fever. Hold me back boys!

That young girl only added fuel to the fire. It was a very unique experience in the sense that it was not very expressive for me. It was more like I just remained an extremely stable gym structure for her to grab on to steadily and wiggle and gyrate and exercise at her own leisure to unfold her sexual experience.

I watched the young girl discover sex, like watching an instructional video. She came into her own; she absolutely reveled in her own unfoldment and discovery.

A bit more on the experience. She was at all times enjoying the thrill of her own feelings. She originally had intentions on limiting me completely. She originally expressed, no touching, no kissing, no deep thrusts, no passion. She intended to curtail me completely. So, in actuality she is a very protective, Prima Donna princess, and a young finicky brat. She wanted me in and out, ASAP. So, in no way am I calling her a kind benevolent creature.

But, her juices flowed so naturally and spontaneously, she could not resist her own overpowering youthful excited sexuality that completely obliterated her intentions.

Watching her and being a part of her discovering her own sensuality and sexuality and enjoying her own rhythm and pushing the boundaries slowly step-by-step at her own freedom and leisure was a very deep and rejuvenating experience for this guy of senior years.

She eventually uncontrollably embraced me vicelike and wanted to scratch me in her passion but held back for fear of violating me. I urged her to cut loose and scratch me like a playful excited kitten.

But, there was only so far this 20 minutes could take us. I would have loved to explore so much more, but knew that the transactional nature of the event was limiting.

This experience completely lacked fantasy and mind involvement, except that the mind only witnessed the beauty of a young chick, pecking her way out of her enclosed egg shell. It was the wonderment of pure sexuality to behold by myself. I literally felt to be her mature teacher coaching her to discover her own joy of sex. It was a privilege to participate in her coming out party.

But, next time, I will go for my equal, my Taiwanese mature oversexed vixen that loves to give it to me strong and hard, almost abusing me, and whispering throughout, "come on older brother, give me more. " There is more relatability with a that has been to the rodeo many times and appreciates a good ride with mutual understanding.

This might sound pretty sad, but I am more properly matched and comfortable with a girl in the three to four decades my junior area, rather than reaching towards the fifth. But, hey, I try my best to exercise and eat right, and I can last as long as any girl wants to give this "older brother. ".

What a stark dichotomy in sexuality between these two personalities and ages.

And, if you look around the scrap yard of Wanhua very carefully, a plethora of experiences can be found. You just have to be patient and sift through carefully. Because, there is a lot of garbage.

In choosing a partner it is easy to be fooled judging by appearance alone. I find it important to be very loose and open to the field of women and choose according to my deepest feelings of intuition.

Luckily, I turned down a Vietnamese earlier that night that approached me. I mean, she was young enough and friendly enough, and I almost agreed. But, my gut told me to get away from her and possibly go back to her later after I thought about it, alone, without her interference and pressuring me.

Also, it must be noted, with the young Thai, I was taken to a more upscale room actually on Xichang, as opposed to the alley rooms. In my experience, every time I have been in this building, it was always with a higher end girl.

Another incident happened to me the other day via bus trip to Wanhua.

I was sitting quietly in my seat, deeply engaged in phone activity, writing.

A made-up lady, obviously not a stay at-home-mom-type, but a streetwalker-appearance type gets on the bus and sits down in front of me.

The stench of cheap perfume was worse than diesel fumes from a bus with a bad engine. But, what can one do? And, she turns around to look at me.

I think nothing of it. I am a strange looking foreigner, anyway.

However, she then decides to walk further back in the bus to sit with me. With the overpowering dousing of 99 cent store perfume now directly under my nostrils, it feels like I am in a Huaxi Street mobile tea house, and she is showing cleavage.

And, although I would never in a public place, let alone a bus, but my dog-like animal instincts suggested that I dip in for a squeeze of those exposed breasts, as would be customary in any of the tea houses. And, saved by my sense of all that is decent and noble, I banished those thoughts of the devil. I returned to my engrossed task on my cellphone.

And, then, slightly perturbed, she puts her face an inch away from mine and gazes intensely into my eyes, and locks in, like "how dare you not acknowledge me," or "don't you remember me?

Well, my Chinese is not very good, and I was very shocked, and so I just ignored her because I was intent on writing and she wasn't young and beautiful, and, quite frankly, I did not recognize her. And she went back to her original seat and got off the bus at Kangding.

I can recall being with someone that resembled her a year or two ago and obviously it must have been her. I met her in an odd alley once late, and it was raining hard, and she was one of the few out that night. It was a cordial event.

Not my first incident on a bus. I had two others with providers. One was smart and extremely discreet, seeing I was with people who would find my affiliation with girls of this profession abominable, and she just ignored me.

A year later, I met her on the streets of Wanhua, and I employed her services, really as a "thank you, and we discussed the situation.

She was such a levelheaded intelligent girl. She was not very pretty.

Prior to the incident on the bus, I never employed her. But, we always chatted extensively. Her English was communicative. That was back in the days when Kangding was so robust with so many girls and so much fun and aliveness and very little police involvement. Many socialized with potential customers in the street. A different era.

But, after the incident, I employed her just to thank her. Turns out that the session, although she was not attractive, was beautiful and memorable, because I just really respected her and trusted her. Her room was unbelievably clean and well-decorated, like an expensive hotel room with an artistic twist. Also, I got to know her better. Her situation in life was very sad in so many ways. But, her courage to continue in life amidst its bleakness was awe-inspiring.

The other time, I was not so lucky. The woman behaved like a fluttering schoolgirl and possibly gave me away to maybe one or two in my group of family and friends that I was with. She was with her "co-worker" friend, giggling about me and pointing, and trying to get my attention. I saw a friend I was with raise her eyebrows as if she heard something surprising about me. I was scared. Karma bit me in the ass and let me know that I ain't so goddam smart and I get away with my shenanigans, but by the Grace of God. But, the family friend, just let what she saw and heard there, remain there.

I have been running around this neighborhood for quite a while.

It might be time soon to get away for a good long while. But, honestly speaking, aside from the mongering which is recreational, Taiwan, with its people, culture, friends, mountains, rivers, open fruit / vegetable markets, safety, ease of transportation, economy, food, et cetera, is hard to beat. Only thing I would not miss are the hot summers.

[QUOTE=OldHickory;2458170]Date: 13 Jun.

Location: near intersection of JiLin Road and JinZhou St (there are two MP's next to each other; the one on the right).

Time: 18:00.

Name: 8 and 88.

Nationality: Both Vietnamese.

Age. Late 30's, late 20's.

Face: 3 of 5 and 2 of 5.

Body: 3 of 5 and 3 of 5.

Tits: be+, the+.

Height: 160 ish for both.

Service: 4 of 5.

GFE: 2 of 5.[/QUOTE]I visited #88. Low massage skills, fairly tall for a Vietnamese girl, a little tummy, bored attitude and certainly not stacked. I would say American large be. Didn't go back.

Down the main road at 206 there is a girl I like. #2, white skin Cambodian whos been in forever, pretty pretty face, mid to late 20's, 5'1" petite with American see cup, large areola, and tiny ripples. I like sweet voice and attitude. She's shy but after a visit she was willing to drop her top to reveal her package. Wow. Her massage is pretty good too.

She barely speaks English but can carry a good conversation in Chinese if you want. And she's playful which is refreshing.

She has a BF so I didn't really push too much for more than a HJ. I was there the other night and she actually gave me 20-30 min extra. Tipped 1 k.

On a separate topic, I think I prefer girls that do good BJs rather than FS. Any leads to good clean BJ girls?

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2895374]I visited #88. Low massage skills, fairly tall for a Vietnamese girl, a little tummy, bored attitude and certainly not stacked. I would say American large be. Didn't go back.

Down the main road at 206 there is a girl I like. #2, white skin Cambodian whos been in forever, pretty pretty face, mid to late 20's, 5'1" petite with American see cup, large areola, and tiny ripples. I like sweet voice and attitude. She's shy but after a visit she was willing to drop her top to reveal her package. Wow. Her massage is pretty good too.

She barely speaks English but can carry a good conversation in Chinese if you want. And she's playful which is refreshing.

She has a BF so I didn't really push too much for more than a HJ. I was there the other night and she actually gave me 20-30 min extra. Tipped 1 k.

On a separate topic, I think I prefer girls that do good BJs rather than FS. Any leads to good clean BJ girls?[/QUOTE]Most of the girls will BBBJ if you ask them to. However they would normally ask for 1. 5-2 K for that, unless you get friendly with them. My regular massage girls I just give them 1 K for FS now.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2895594]Most of the girls will BBBJ if you ask them to. However they would normally ask for 1. 5-2 K for that, unless you get friendly with them. My regular massage girls I just give them 1 K for FS now.[/QUOTE]Let me tell you, after a nice massage, to get rewarded with FS for 1 K, you definitely must be a very charming fellow. Hats off to you, AsiaFever!

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2895374]I visited #88. Low massage skills, fairly tall for a Vietnamese girl, a little tummy, bored attitude and certainly not stacked. I would say American large be. Didn't go back.

Down the main road at 206 there is a girl I like. [/QUOTE]Is this 206 Jilin, or where?

[QUOTE=MikeApple81;2895755]Is this 206 Jilin, or where?[/QUOTE]Yes, looks like it. I've been to that place before, nice service from the girls there.

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2895374]I visited #88. Low massage skills, fairly tall for a Vietnamese girl, a little tummy, bored attitude and certainly not stacked. I would say American large be. Didn't go back.

Down the main road at 206 there is a girl I like. #2, white skin Cambodian whos been in forever, pretty pretty face, mid to late 20's, 5'1" petite with American see cup, large areola, and tiny ripples. I like sweet voice and attitude. She's shy but after a visit she was willing to drop her top to reveal her package. Wow. Her massage is pretty good too.

She barely speaks English but can carry a good conversation in Chinese if you want. And she's playful which is refreshing.

She has a BF so I didn't really push too much for more than a HJ. I was there the other night and she actually gave me 20-30 min extra. Tipped 1 k.

On a separate topic, I think I prefer girls that do good BJs rather than FS. Any leads to good clean BJ girls?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AsiaFever;2895842]Yes, looks like it. I've been to that place before, nice service from the girls there.[/QUOTE]Asia Fever, any number you recommend there?

Hey everyone. Can anyone tell me if Carnegies is still around? I heard that it closed. Where have the girls gone that use to hang out there? And is the Brass Monkey still a fun place?

I'm heading back to Taiwan next week!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Knobbyxx;2896898]Hey everyone. Can anyone tell me if Carnegies is still around? I heard that it closed. Where have the girls gone that use to hang out there? And is the Brass Monkey still a fun place?

I'm heading back to Taiwan next week!

Thanks![/QUOTE]What are you looking for? Just some locals for random fun? Open Bumble and Tinder.

"take it or leave it".

So, I go to the Xichang Market and there are plenty of girls, and there are pretty girls there, but with horrendous chips on their shoulders, thinking they are centerfolds.

So, I pick one out, simple, plain, clean, pretty enough, quoting 1. 5. At least I thought that I heard that.

Go to the room, and it's a cold night and I am layered with clothing, disrobing (it is not summer where t-shirt, shorts and sandals come off in seconds) and I am not rushing, and I see her set the 2 O minute timer as soon as we entered the room. I told her to at least wait until my clothes are off. And, she looks at me deadpan and says, "the time started; take it or leave it. " (inner umpire calls, "strike one. ".

Well, you know I am up there, so I don't really want to leave, but the teapot is boiling.

So, I pick up the pace to get my clothes off, as fast as a high school jock, and she says "pay first. ".

Well, that is par for the course, but she said it with a snotty voice, so the inner umpire calls, "strike two. ".

(and the teapot is getting hotter).

In my head I am counting, watching my time dwindling, tea pot getting hotter, and she is falling behind in the count, but doesn't realize it. She thinks she's walking to first base because she's batting against a Bush league pitcher. And, I can see me ending up with about 13.5 minutes of service, and if I don't make the finish in time, this one isn't cutting me any slack.

The situation is a "lose / lose. ".

I hand her the 1. 5 and she says that it is 1. 6. I protest that she quoted 1. 5. And she stands firm, "1. 6," and again, in perfect English, "take it or leave it. ".

Simultaneously, the teapot blows, whistling "Dixie," like a siren, and the inner umpire bellows out, "strike three; you're out!

And right on cue I tell her, "take it, or leave it? I'll leave it. ".

She nonchalantly says "okay," and I feel the weight of the world off my shoulders, and I.

Start to dress quickly. And, suddenly realize, "why should I dress quickly?" Because, I am no longer on her 20 minute timer. I calm down, relax, and put my clothes on quite leisurely like a respectable human being. She doesn't like it, because the shoe is now on the other foot. We are using her time that she wants to get back to the streets.

I finish, I say that I'm sorry, and thank her. She doesn't respond. Never argued with her.

Sure it might hurt my reputation, but I don't care.

Anyway, I crossed the street and approached a good looking girl. She wanted 2. 5. I told her it was too expensive. But, unlike the other girl, she was pleasant and sweet about it.

I mean, I have been treated very well in Taiwan by the ladies, most of the time. But, this recent influx of Thais are a caliber that seem to carry a highly privileged attitude.

In years prior, the girls wanted your business. These girls seem content talking to their friends, vaping, and playing with their phones. Dealings with them are more complex.

The Vietnamese were far easier. But, they are not here anymore. And, seems like the Taiwanese, which have a nice work ethic, are by appointment only.

Line contacts seem to be essential now. "A' la carte" off the street seems like bygone days in Wanhua. And, the Kangding alleys were empty. They all moved to Xichang (both sides of the street) and some in the park across from Longshan Temple.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2897029]What are you looking for? Just some locals for random fun? Open Bumble and Tinder.[/QUOTE]Guess I will have to reactivate my Tinder profile.

[QUOTE=Knobbyxx;2896898]Hey everyone. Can anyone tell me if Carnegies is still around? I heard that it closed. Where have the girls gone that use to hang out there? And is the Brass Monkey still a fun place?

I'm heading back to Taiwan next week!

Thanks![/QUOTE]The 2 good nights are Brass Monkey are Tuesday Salsa Night, and Thursday Ladies Night. I've been told by the owner that Salsa night is the night of the week for gaming.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2897083]"take it or leave it".[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure I know which one you are talking about as I have previously encountered her. In hindsight I should have just done the same as you, the performance just wasn't worth it.

Stay safe!

Went to Wanhua and ignored the Thais.

Ready to go home and then saw a statuesque Taiwanese, 35-ish, with almost some features seeming not quite Taiwanese, slightly western. Not gorgeous on the street, in the cold, but still quite attractive. Dressed stately, like a Jaqueline Kennedy, graceful, noble, a bit stoic to the eye.

But, somehow, she can easily be missed on the street. No flash at all. No sparkling youth. I almost passed her by. (would have been a big mistake) Only by a second look, I decided to investigate. And, her walk upstairs with her runway swiveling and shifting her hips was tantalizing.

I couldn't help but sample as we both climbed the steps. She giggled sweetly. Because, you know, if you walk up steep steps slowly behind a lady, and you follow so close behind, I mean your canine instincts are aroused, and if not for her panties and skirt, my snout would literally be a fraction of an inch from her delightful rhythmically-swaying, exaggeratedly so, for my benefit, lucious cheeks for the duration of the climb. I mean, it was already getting heated. I have seen her about a year or so ago, I think twice. They were absolutely memorable sessions, non-rushed, no-nonsense, full blown sexual encounters. She knows she drives me wild.

But, the clothes came off, and I couldn't ask for a more aesthetically perfect, symmetrically pleasing body. I gasped, "Oh My God," and she repeated "Oh My God," and snickered. I just had to express that she is certainly a fine specimen of a woman.

She totally blossomed in the bedroom. And, the room was higher end, cozier, very clean, a comfortable serene environment. The bed withstood the repeated assaults admirably. She sweated a little, and wore no perfume, and her ever so slight natural body odor and perspiration just made the session all the more visceral.

Did everything. Plenty of friction. Cow girl, she rode to exhaustion, before I threw her over and put new meaning into the out-dated term, of "missionary. " I mean, there was nothing religious, priestly, and reserved about the party going on down below, that got livelier and livelier moment to moment.

It was the vigorous copulation of a horny couple finally reunited and remembering how great the sex was that they have been missing out on and making up for the lost year with each and every plunge.

We went overtime because we couldn't separate our bodies. The momentum of the perpetual motion, the continuous crashing just couldn't come to a complete halt, so we continued for a while longer, coasted for a while, with the foot off the gas, but still pumping away, until it was safe to put on the brakes. Neither wanted to. She definitely had a few more orgasms left in her. She was gushing continuously, and I became so lost and intertwined in the experience, that I lost track of everything except the thrill of the feeling of the pure sexuality.

I guess it was so real and enjoyable, because by comparison with those young privileged bratty Thais on that street of recent imports, this wonderful experience did not require any repression.

The sexuality flourished completely and blossomed fully and fragrantly to fruition before completion. And, even after completion, the warm afterglow lingered in the room, unrushed, as we attended to the needs of our bodies and post-sex cleanliness, still admiring each other and touching from time to time, smiling with warm regard and respect.

Relaxed, passionate, loving male and female relationship, totally appreciative of each other's gender. Not wild, but good hard continuous thumping with intention.

Eventually, deep into the act, with time near completion, we entered into that groove of.

Blissful satisfaction when heart, mind and body act in complete unison and harmony, and there is a beautiful harmonious flow of loving, wholesome goodness.

I felt reinstated into the human race, restored and vindicated from some previous bad experiences with those nonsensical young brats lining the streets. They might be okay for a diversion, but sometimes you just need a real woman.

Other girls are younger, but what good is all that youth if they are unwilling and unknowledgeable in how to share it properly?

She cleaned me lovingly before excusing herself to shower. A nice girl who somehow goes under the radar, unbelievably, with her looks and style, and great manners.

I almost forgot how making love should be. But, thankfully, she reawakened hope in my dreary love life.

Not a simple woman, but simple to please in bed. Very basic. A traditional lover. Intelligent woman. Her story on why she does what she does, must be a twisted fall from grace. Because, she could easily hold her own in higher realms of society.

What a difference a day makes. Just when I thought Wanhua was over and out, she springs back.

And, I had that feeling, that wonderful feeling of "money well spent. ".

I've avoided agencies prior because they want to do verifications that didn't really makes sense. Typically they'll want you to verify your phone number, your work with business card, and a selfie when you arrive at the location. Way too much info that I prefer not to share. I kept on hitting the verification wall over and over again with different agencies. I finally did cave and bit the bullet. Well, happy to say it wasn't a sting operation and I am still typing.

Now onto the girl! Mid twenties innocent looking Thai. 5'6" American be cup. No tummy, no trace of hair below her eye brows. My type! Great attitude, really girl next door type. I paid extra for 2's, and anal. Now I hadn't shot a load for in a week and I knew my little brother had an itchy trigger finger hence paying for thr extra shot. L which was an extra 500, no biggie. And sure enough when we were getting into it and she was making love to my Johnson, I pulled out and blew all over the place LOL. She sure was surprised at the short time, the distance and amount! We both had a good laugh.

He needed a rest so we cuddled, relaxed, and talked while she just gentling encouraged him in no particular hurry. Eventually he inflated again and she went at it again to get him rock hard. Rubber goes on and she squats over me flat foot and just strokes me with her pussy without making any body contact. God that felt good. After a bit of that she asked me if I was ready to try her ass. Boy o boy I love pumping a tight young clean ass especially if they enjoy it as much as I do. She was tight and embraced me with her rear with some genuine pleasure sounds and facial expressions. I didn't want to just pump and dump because most girls find it painful. This was seemed to almost prefer it in her ass. We did it missionary, doggy, standing, sideways on the bed. Her ass just ate it all up. She kept on reassuring me that I am not hurting her, that she likes it. What a gem!

After about 20 minute of enjoying her tight ass I finally couldn't hold it anymore. We were spooning when I just pushed deeper and deeper until I just let it all out. Both of us sweating. We cuddled in static while I was still inside her.

Damage was $3300 for 2 shots + 1 k for anal.

Had a pretty shitty day last week and was passing by Longshan temple. Always been a lurker and never a buyer, but that night I spotted a well dressed woman on Xichang street sitting behind a closed food stall. She looked like she had a good sized chest and nice long legs. It was cold but she was showed quite a bit of skin. Intrigued I walked around a bit more but always keeping an eye out on her because she had a face mask on and I didn't want to gamble on a butterface.

As I did the rounds, she was soon joined by two other similarly dressed women, one of which just as stacked but without a face mask. Gathering up my courage, I walked up to the one without the mask and asked her if she was available and how much. She giggled and said 1.5 and beckoned me to follow her up a nearby staircase. Up and onward to the third floor and into a small apartment that was relatively neat. There were stacks of clean towels (actual towels), water, and what looked to be a few squirt bottles of lotion and lube. She asked me a little bit about myself and then asked if I'd like to shower first or not. I inquired about the time and she said it was 20 minutes no DATY, no BBBJ. A bit disheartened, I asked if could feed on her majestic looking breasts. She laughed and popped them right out. They were legit amazing.

As I stripped and regaled about her miserable day, she said, how about I call a friend? I asked how much, she said 1. 5 too but the time would not change. I'm like alright but I shoot fast, how many times can we go? She pulled out a box of condoms and said "let's go?

So I shower, she calls her friend up. It turns out it was the lady that I had my eye on originally! She took her off her facemask and boy was she a looker. The two ladies were definitely on the older side. Mid-30's, but both were in my opinion pretty solid looking in the face part. The original lady, let's call her Xing Xing, was on the cute side whereas the one I wanted, Lu Lu, was definitely on the sexy whorish looking side.

Xing Xing, already naked, started to tell Lu Lu of the plan. Lu lu looked at the bed and saw all the condoms and started asking questions about them and Xing Xing said, "just go with the flow". After Lu Lu stripped, Xing Xing started the timer and then asked me which one I wanted first and how did I want it.

I said I'd like to be ridden, so Xing Xing and Lu Lu rock paper scissored to see who'd go first. Xing won.

The duo proceeded to lick my nipples, Xing to my right and lu to my left. I tried my best to finger both of them, getting fingers into Lu's wonderfully tight and warm ****. It was amazing how tight it felt. Soon enough, Lu proceed to breast feed me while Xing stated working my wrapped rod and balls. She gave it a good wettening and then proceeded to mount me. As she did, Lu actually sat on my face, not in a position where I could do much more than lick her lower lips. Xing rode me for about 5 minutes all the while Lu worked my nips and licked my ear. It was crazy. The two were in sync. Soon enough I blew my first load. The two started giggling and then offered me water.

I went to the bathroom to pee and clean myself off. I had about 5 more minutes left, and I asked about the time, Lu comes into the bathroom and proceeds to wash me and she kissed me on the cheek whispering, don't worry about it.

Once all clean, she leads me by the dick back to the bed and proceeds to wrap me up and suck me off. Xing, on the other hand, phone in hand starts to text someone. Once she was done, she too starts to lick me, from pole to nipple. Once Xing to my chest, Lu mounts me while Xing plays with my balls. It was crazy. Lu was incredibly tight. I couldn't take her riding me so I asked for doggy. She got into position and Xing guided my missile into the silo. Xing then proceeded to stand on the bed so I could be at the right height to suck her tits. A few more pumps and I was done. They said, I could go for another 20 minutes if I gave them each another 1 k.

I was so fucking tempted. Total spent: 4 K. I didn't have change so I just gave them both 2 k each.

Would I return? I got Xing Xing's line. Shame I didn't get Lu Lu's. I'm pretty sure after a few more visits, she'll give me BBBJ and some other services.

Girl: Xing Xing.

Age: Mid 30's.

Face: 7/10 <-- round, cute.

Hair: Long.

Chest: 10/10. Definitely had some work on them. They were natural, but you could tell they've probably been lifted.

Height: 160 CM without shoes, about 170 with.

Body type: Curvy. Nice and ample. Not fat but not skinny.

Ass: wasn't exactly lacking but I also didn't get to sample it nor was it what attracted me.

Service: CBJ, Nipple Play, Breast Feed, Cowgirl 7/10 <- can't give 10/10 due to no BBBJ.

Tightness: Not bad for a street walker.

Damage: 1.5 k for 20 min, paid 2 K.

Girl: Lu Lu.

Age: Mid 30's.

Face: 8-9/10 definitely my type.

Hair: Long.

Chest: Larger and better than Xing Xing.

Body type: Skinnier than Xing Xing, but she had an ass. Almost like a shrunken Jessica Rabbit style proportioned.

Height: 155 CM without shoes.

Ass: Oh man oh man.

Service: CBJ, Nipple Play, Shower, Some face sitting, light fingering, Cowgirl and doggie.

Damage: 1.5 k for 20 min, paid 2 k.

"Wanhua Aphrodite".

Went back to the same girl, the well-dressed stately Jaqueline Kennedy statuesque Taiwanese beauty type. Let's call her "Aphrodite" after the Greek goddess of love, sex and beauty. ("Venus," for those of you who are Romans).

This session got much more physical. I adore her looks; I like her style. A certain elegance and sophistication. Very reserved in her appearance, and confidence, but as passionate as anyone I have ever met in my travels.

We definitely did some high-octane driving, non-stop. She was glorious. But, more of a receiver, as opposed to a giver in the art of love.

As is required in her profession, she takes the keys and starts the engine, drives through the back roads slowly to get you to the main highway. But, then she relinquishes control of the steering wheel, scoots over to the front passenger's seat, and lets you open the throttle and grind those gears to your heart's content.

She's a shock absorber, and she can easily handle a ton of sex. I just have a lot of respect for her. She handles herself with dignity and grace.

It got really hot and sweaty, and she just kept on surfing with cat-cries, moans and purrs. I was out of control a bit, a bit overstimulated, in awe of her ability to enjoy and absorb anything and everything, and seem to just relish it. I know it's her profession, but 95% of her peers would pull me over to the curb, give me a warning, a citation, and even cuff me, take away my license. But, she never curtailed me. Did not really encourage me, either. But, just let me be what I am, what I needed at that time, and she just was open to it and enjoyed it.

Ran out of time. I wasn't done. Not even close. But, I pulled out just because time was up, to be courteous and fair to her. And, the lovely lady just pulled me right back in and continued to rock & roll without skipping a beat. Never rushed me and she gave me every possible courtesy. Honest, smart, more than fair, generous.

What else can I say? She does smoke, but I love smoke on my street girl's breath. I dated many Korean bar girls in the past. They used to smoke Virginia Slims like chimneys and drank straight hard liquor and ate salty spicy fish with kimchi. I smoked back then, too, many decades ago. Didn't everyone? (80's).

She has a beautiful contoured set of cute matching cupcakes, chiseled-uplifted-rejuvenated and beautified by probably one of the finest Michael Angelo's of all female body enhancement surgeons in Asia. Unless I am wrong, and nature just outdid herself this time. But, lovely, lovely small delicious breasts.

In addition, beautiful hair, beautiful face, beautiful abs, lovely hips and derrière. Not the least bit fat, and not overly skinny. Symmetrically perfect and very pleasing to the eye. Lovely personality.

Let me sum it all up by saying that I usually don't sleep very well at night. But, this night, after being with her, and the truly invigorating, free-spirited session, I slept like a hibernating bear with a full belly of a milk, honey and cognac tonic. A full night of deep sleep, waking up in the morning with her memory on my mind, a nice clear genitourinary system from the grand super orgasm, and relatively satisfied and contented. A great session that lingered positively.

Going back will be inevitable, trying new approaches, possibly a completely different repertoire, a slower mood.

I made a half-hearted dive southward, and she caught my intention and did not block me, but opened up. Prudent judgment caused me to reconsider, and I aborted my intention, and reinserted my burger in her bun.

Honestly speaking, and it seems extremely doubtful and almost impossible, but kissing this lady would take it to a whole new level.

Spending most of my time with the same statuesque Taiwanese. She treats me just fine. Good standard old fashioned rugged service.

Nothing fancy. No fake soundtracks, everything covered, never rushed. She has no superb techniques, other than leaving herself open, vulnerable and available. When we hit it right, naturally, there is a bliss that fills the room.

And, we both have a good work ethic, to keep on creating friction until the sparks ignite. Not the youngest out there. But, early to mid thirties is plenty young for me.

The bubblegum Thai brats that dominate the scene have no idea what it means to provide high quality service as a profession.

They were hit or miss for me, recently.

Don't get me wrong, if you sift through them, you will find some dazzling young girls willing to engage wholeheartedly. But, for myself, the sifting process was far too tedious. And, each girl seems to be tied to principles of work guidelines (Thai union rules) that prevent her from acting autonomously. The curtailing of my freedom to be sexually spontaneous initiated my dislike of them. That, along with their charging above standard prices, their strict, unyielding adherence to exact time-limits, and their discretion on when the timer is set. I could foresee them starting the timer in the street when they are first approached. I mean, they are not high-priced lawyers and consultants. Yet, they seem to have adopted such business practices.

The perks of remaining with the same girl are developing mutual trust and understanding, and taking the act a little deeper each time and exploring deeper realms. The sessions build on each other.

As with most all things, it could reach an over-saturation point. But, so far, the sessions leave nothing to be desired.

It always feels like money well-spent.

I won't continue to post about her. If I don't see her in the streets, I will move on to another "tried-and-proven," or take my chances if a good rapport is developed in our street chat with a new lady.

Keep on posting, boys, sharing your experiences if you feel comfortable doing so.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2902362]Spending most of my time with the same statuesque Taiwanese. She treats me just fine. Good standard old fashioned rugged service.

Nothing fancy. No fake soundtracks, everything covered, never rushed. She has no superb techniques, other than leaving herself open, vulnerable and available. When we hit it right, naturally, there is a bliss that fills the room.

And, we both have a good work ethic, to keep on creating friction until the sparks ignite. Not the youngest out there. But, early to mid thirties is plenty young for me.

The bubblegum Thai brats that dominate the scene have no idea what it means to provide high quality service as a profession.

They were hit or miss for me, recently.

Don't get me wrong, if you sift through them, you will find some dazzling young girls willing to engage wholeheartedly. But, for myself, the sifting process was far too tedious. And, each girl seems to be tied to principles of work guidelines (Thai union rules) that prevent her from acting autonomously. The curtailing of my freedom to be sexually spontaneous initiated my dislike of them. That, along with their charging above standard prices, their strict, unyielding adherence to exact time-limits, and their discretion on when the timer is set. I could foresee them starting the timer in the street when they are first approached. I mean, they are not high-priced lawyers and consultants. Yet, they seem to have adopted such business practices.

The perks of remaining with the same girl are developing mutual trust and understanding, and taking the act a little deeper each time and exploring deeper realms. The sessions build on each other.

As with most all things, it could reach an over-saturation point. But, so far, the sessions leave nothing to be desired.

It always feels like money well-spent.

I won't continue to post about her. If I don't see her in the streets, I will move on to another "tried-and-proven," or take my chances if a good rapport is developed in our street chat with a new lady.

Keep on posting, boys, sharing your experiences if you feel comfortable doing so.[/QUOTE]Truly inspired by your posts and I was briefly in your neck of the woods on Monday (March 18th). I followed your road map to a little pot of gold in the little market on Xichang Street, despite my skepticism. I will be posting about my experience in detail soon. I am thinking I might have saw your Jacqueline Kennedy (wearing a red coat?) The lady I ended up with looked similar and spoke Chinese (definitely not one of the Thais) but her personality seemed much more mainland Chinese than Taiwan, from my Western perspective.

Yuxuaoning was the name she gave me. I got her digits which end in 97. You know her? Anyway, I'll be posting a full report soon. Keep up the good work, I never would have had a chance of success without your guidance.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2902847]Truly inspired by your posts and I was briefly in your neck of the woods on Monday (March 18th). I followed your road map to a little pot of gold in the little market on Xichang Street, despite my skepticism. I will be posting about my experience in detail soon. I am thinking I might have saw your Jacqueline Kennedy (wearing a red coat?) The lady I ended up with looked similar and spoke Chinese (definitely not one of the Thais) but her personality seemed much more mainland Chinese than Taiwan, from my Western perspective.

Yuxuaoning was the name she gave me. I got her digits which end in 97. You know her? Anyway, I'll be posting a full report soon. Keep up the good work, I never would have had a chance of success without your guidance.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your kind words, Captain!

In Taiwan, I don't have a burner phone, so I don't like to exchange numbers. I ran into problems with girls calling me constantly, and arousing suspicions with my family. I usually meet them in the street.

But, my Statuesque Jaqueline Kennedy girl is Taiwanese, (unless she is lying, as many do) and uses a name like "Lichwen. ".

In that market area, I seldom see Mainlanders these days. But, on Kangding, I see Mainlanders, and they can be quite statuesque.

Plenty of Fujianese Mainlanders in the Huaxi Market area.

Anyway, stay safe, be well, prosper, have fun, keep it covered, stay strong and healthy, and I so look forward to hearing your tale.

Thanks for taking the time to share. Many Blessings to you and our small community here in Taiwan.

My trip to Asia had taken me from the alleys of Seoul, to the streets and bars of Bangkok, and finally back to the warm embrace of my lover and friends in the Philippines. But it wasn't quite over yet.

On Monday, I boarded my flight in Cebu bound for the United States. My flight had a lengthy ten-hour layover in Taipei, and that was by design. I intended to use that time to explore the local mongering scene.

I had visited Taipei once before (also on a long layover). I personally found the city to be welcoming, well-designed and oddly romantic. I was able to zip easily from the airport to the heart of the city with public transportation (the MRT) and enjoyed walking the nice (and mostly covered) sidewalks that took me past restaurants, tea shops, convenience stores, massage parlors, and every other type of business. The streets were bustling with people going about their daily lives. From a weather, modernity and population density perspective, the city reminded me a little of San Francisco.

Strangely, I found the women that I saw in Taipei to be, on the whole, the most feminine and attractive in any country I'd visited in Asia. I was not expecting that, as I have never read any reports from foreigners praising the beauty of Taiwanese women in comparison to say, Japanese, Thai or Filipina women. But having made multiple visits to all of those countries, I can confidently say that I am personally more attracted to the physical appearance, fashion style and overall feminine ambience of Taiwanese women than those in any other Asian country I've been to.

With all these tantalizing women roaming around, even riding the subway was a somewhat exciting experience for me. Not speaking a word of Chinese, I knew I had no hope of seducing one of them, nor did I have the time or inclination to try. However, I was certain that somewhere was a place I could spend some quality time with one of them for a price. Unfortunately, on that first trip, I had not yet discovered this forum and I was very limited in my ability to find those women. I wandered around the streets aimlessly and found came up empty. I left disappointed but I was determined to return.

Then I discovered this forum. Inspired by the poet of Taipei, Amazake, I prepared to give the city another try.

My flight landed at 1:30 pm, and with just one small carry-on suitcase I cleared customs in record time. I immediately jumped on the MRT and headed for Taipei Main Station. Then I caught a bus to Wanhua and walked a piece to get to my hotel, the Ximen LE Room Hotel located at No. 32 Kanding Road. You won't find it on Google Maps, but it is across the street from Xin Xin Hot Pot and you should be able to book it on Agoda.

Even though I only planned to stay a few hours, I got a hotel room because 1) I needed a secure place to put my stuff, 2) I needed a nice hot shower and a place to relax before spending 20 straight hours on airplanes and in airports on my way back home, and 3) if I got lucky and found a woman, I needed a place to take her. I was very happy with the LE Room Hotel. Reasonably priced, courteous staff, good air conditioning, comfortable bed, easy check-in / check out. The elevator is slow and the room was a little cramped, but the bathroom was clean and the shower was steaming hot with great water pressure and had the nice soap and shampoo dispensers I like. But what really impressed me was that in the lobby they had a variety of snacks and drinks, and all of them were free to guests. That alone made the place an absolute bargain. I would definitely stay there again.

Wasting no time, I showered and shaved and then headed south down Kangding Street toward Lungshan Temple. It was only about a 1 km walk from the hotel. Even though it was windy and a little chilly outside, I wore a black t-shirt and jeans. I noticed that nearly everyone else seemed to be dressed in a jacket, and I immediately felt like I looked underdressed in addition to looking out of place. But after spending four days in the heat of the Philippines, I was enjoying the feel of cool air on my skin.

Guided by the detailed directions of Amazake, I reached the little market on Xichang Street on the east side of Lungshan Temple around 5 pm. Upon arriving, I immediately realized that I had entered the rough side of town. Most of the vendors there looked impoverished and the place had a seedy feel to it. On each side of the market was a covered corridor, and scattered throughout those corridors, leaned up against the walls, were a number of scantily clad ladies who were clearly trying to attract male clientele. And that day, I wanted to be part of that clientele.

Overall, I was pleased with the selection, especially so early in the day on a Monday. A wave of purient excitement washed over me as I strolled through the market, casually looking from side to side to check out the available options as inconspicuously as possible. Of course, as the only six-foot-two, white, blue-eyed man wearing only a t-shirt in the general vicinity, I am sure I was anything but inconspicuous.

I had found the promiscuous promised land of Wanhua and now it was time to sample a little taste of its bounty. The problem, of course, was that I did not speak a word of Mandarin. I have learned from past experience that it is a good idea to try a few native phrases when approaching and then revert to English or the translator. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. So, I circled around the temple and practiced saying "Nee-how" and "Mia-gush shaw shi-do shau chien"? Which I believe translates to "Hello. How much does it cost for two hours?

I then returned to the market, and this time walked down the narrow side corridors. I broke out my broken Mandarin for the first lady I ran into, who was more or less alone. This lady was on the older side, had more weight on her than I like and didn't seem the least bit excited to see me. She didn't understand what I said, but also didn't immediately tell me to get lost. Which is something I was keenly concerned about after my humbling experience in Korea. So I whipped out my translator and she told me it was 2,000 NTD for 20 minutes. I asked her how much it would be for an hour, and she told me 5,000. I thanked her and said I might be back after dinner. I had zero intention of coming back.

I then crossed the street and went to the other corridor, where I noticed a group of about six lightly-dressed women standing nearly shoulder to shoulder. At least four of them were obviously Thai. One had light skin and appeared to be Chinese / Taiwanese ethnicity. She was cute, slim to average body, maybe around 30 years old, with pitch black hair cut evenly above her shoulder. From a physical standpoint, she was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to find in Taipei. However, she did not speak even one word of English, and had what seemed to be a polite but down-to-business personality, which were both drawbacks. I generally like my street girls to be either innocent fawns, seductive vixens or easygoing girls-next-door, and this woman was none of the above.

Just as we began to discuss pricing details, all six of the women suddenly turned and retreated past me down the corridor, including the one I was chatting with. I was confused. I then noticed a yellow-vested policeman coming down the corridor. I smiled and gave him a "what's up" nod. He nodded back indifferently. For a second, I wondered how strictly prostitution was policed in Taiwan. It was kind of disheartening to see the girls get run off like that and to know that they must always be looking around for approaching law enforcement. And it made me even more determined to give them my business.

After all the girls scurried away, I walked across the street to the area near the metro station to see if there were any more opportunities lurking there. All I found was a sizeable homeless population living in squalor with no attractive women anywhere. So I circled back to the Xichang market. The ladies were back, and I brushed past four or five girls to walk directly up to the one I had been talking with. I think this impressed her, and she seemed to soften up a bit.

The short-haired East Asian quoted me 2 k for 20 minutes and 4. 5 k for an hour. I was honestly expecting the price to be higher than the first woman I talked with because this one was younger and more attractive, but to my delight the price was actually lower. I asked her if she wanted to go back to my hotel room, but she insisted that we go to her room across the street. That was a bit of a turn off for me, and with it still being the daylight hours, I was curious to see what kind of beauties might emerge after dark. She gave me her phone number and I told her I would return after dinner. "Yuxuaoning" was the name she entered in my phone, with digits that ended in 97.

As I walked up the market corridor toward my hotel, I passed several more women including one who immediately caught my attention. She looked like she was of some type of mixed ancestry, with Japanese possibly being the most prominent. Mid-20's and had a cosmopolitan "semi-pro" vibe. She spoke very good English and flirted with me in the provocative way that I crave. This girl was the seductive vixen whose charms I am often unable to resist. I asked if she wanted to go back to my hotel, and she immediately agreed. I asked the price for one hour and she told me 6 k. Well, that was a problem. First of all, I only brought 4 k with me to Taiwan, and to my disbelief, virtually every bank in Wanhua (which seems to be pretty much the only place to exchange currency) closes at 3:30 pm. So I told her I would have to pay in a mixture of US and Taiwanese dollars. She said 200 US dollars would work. And I had two crisp 100 dollar bills with me, but Benjamin Franklin was one of our great Founding Fathers and I don't hand over his likeness to foreigners except in the most exceptional circumstances.

These circumstances were pretty darn exceptional, though. It was the last day of my trip and less than four hours before I needed to check out of my hotel to head back to the airport for a long and arduous journey back to the land of the free. And how much more enjoyable would that trip be if I was slumped back in my seat snoozing in a post-coital state of bliss rather than replaying a string of missed opportunities. I was honestly running out of time. And here she was, a girl straight out of my dirtiest dream, practically begging to fulfill my every desire in the comfort of the hotel room I rented for that exact purpose.

But then I thought of how I got there, and many other places I've been in the world. It was only through the guidance of men like Amazake and others who generously chose to share their secrets so that I and others might also partake in the joys they have experienced. Otherwise, I never would have even known the ladies of the Xichang market existed. And now I was going to come into this sacred place and sow lime in the ground by throwing hundred dollar bills at the local girls? Hell no. I was not going to be that guy.

So instead of accept her offer, I laughed and said "6,000? Incredulously. I then rolled my eyes and said "see you later" and walked off. No counteroffer. Didn't even ask for her name or number.

Now, don't get me wrong. I definitely intended to talk to that girl again. But my plan was to go get dinner and let her stand in that corridor for another hour or so thinking about how she would rather be screwing me and getting paid for it. Meanwhile, I would be able to scope out any more economical (and possibly more attractive) options that might appear after the sun went down. After all, she was only the third girl I'd spoken with in Xichang, and two of them exceeded my standards. Surely there had to be more just around the corner. And if worst came to worst, I had Yuxuaoning's number and she was very reasonably priced.

On my way to dinner, I tried to establish contact Yuxuaoning only to find that she was not on WhatsApp. My heart sank as I feared that she had either typed the number in wrong (I had to add the country code on my own) or had given me a fake number. Fortunately, I had cell phone service, so I sent her a text instead. The text went through but there was no reply.

After dinner, I returned to Xichang market and ran headlong into the old 'bird in the hand' adage. It was now around 7:00 and the quality of options had not improved one bit. In fact, they seemed to have gotten worse. I approached a few women just to check the rates, and some of them outright shooed me away. I didn't see either Yuxuaoning or the hot vixen I had talked to earlier standing where they had been before. One Thai girl tried to drag me aggressively up to her room against my will for a 15-minute quickie, while another Thai "bubblegum brat" rudely told me (in either broken English or Thai) to get lost after I complimented her blue eyes. "Get lost" is a very polite way of phrasing whatever she told me.

I passed on each side of the market two or three times, becoming more desperate and hopeless with each pass. It seemed that all the most alluring women had either retired for the evening or been scooped up by other men, and I was scouring the leftovers. It seemed the evening was not going to end well for me after all.

I checked my phone, and to my shock I had a text from Yuxuaoning. "Where are you?" She asked in Mandarin. However, the text had been sent 20 minutes earlier. I responded in Mandarin that I was close to where I met her and asked where she was. Several minutes passed with no response.

Knowing that my time was running out and not knowing what else to do, I continued to loiter in the market. Suddenly, I heard the sounds of yelling to my left. A fight broke out in the market and I had a ringside seat. Two Asian men were going at it with two other Asian men. Three of them were weilding what looked like knight sticks and another had what appeared to be a dull metal blade. Several blows were struck. Pepper spray was used. One of the men sank what appeared to be a small knife or "shank" into the side of another's neck, causing blood to spurt out onto the pavement. This continued for several minutes and at some point another four men joined in, with four on each side. A crowd gathered around to watch. The men were relentless and were legitimately trying to kill each other.

All of the men were small and wiry, and the scene got my testerone pumping so hard that I was somewhat tempted to step in and manhandle a couple of them to break the fight up. But I thought better of it given the weapons that were involved, I would have almost certainly been struck with something and I don't think they would have stopped anyway. Then one of them pulled out a "gun" and crowd started to scatter as he fired it at one of his rivals and scored a an apparent hit. I put the word gun in parentheses because it merely made a 'pfft' sound and was a pitiful imitation of a real gun by an American standard. If these guys had guns like we all have in America, bullets would have been everywhere and the morgue would have been full that night. It made me ashamed to be glad I was not witnessing this fight in my own country, as I very well may not have lived to tell about it.

Pitiful or not, the shot hit its target and the victim collapsed against a motorcycle. Another assailant then put the wounded man in a headlock and began wailing on him. Suddenly a young woman (possibly one of the hookers?) ran out from the crowd and threw her body over the wounded man pleading for the attacker to stop. The woman's cries were so loud and hysterical that the attacker did back off. Finally, after about ten minutes of nonstop fighting, the police and ambulence arrived. They spoke with one of the men who seemed to me to be the instigator but didn't arrest him. They just tried to calm him down. At that point, I figured I had pressed my luck enough by hanging around that area and I left. I checked my phone: Still no reply from Yuxuaoning.

I got some bubble tea at a tea shop in Ximen and then headed back to the hotel. Just before I got there, I felt a buzz in my pocket. It was Yuxuaoning. "I'll go down" she said in Mandarin. It was apparent to me that the reason she had not responded to my text from 30 minutes earlier was because she had been upstairs with another man. I was just another appointment to fit into her busy schedule. And now she was ready for me. "I'm here waiting for you," she texted a few moments later.

After witnessing that fight, my body was full of testosterone and adrenaline. I have to admit, there was something that aroused me deep inside by being summoned to Yuxuaoning's lair. It felt like she was ringing a dinner bell and daring me to come and get it. It was almost 8:00 and I didn't have much time to think about. I acted purely on instinct. Primal instinct. I turned on my heels and speedwalked back to the Xichang market.

There I found Yuxuaoning, who looked even more enticing than I remembered. I told her the truth, that I didn't have much time. I couldn't spend an hour with her, but I could spend 30 minutes for 2,500 NTD. She accepted.

Yuxuaoning led me through a door located only feet from where she had been leaning in the corridor, and up the stairs to her third-floor apartment. It was hot as a furnace inside with no ventilation and the pungent aroma of sex filled the air. The bedsheets were disheveled and looked like they had hosted many visitors. This was the definition of cheap, raunchy sex. Honestly it might have been my first time in a place like that, and I was both disappointed with myself and aroused at the same time. I was skeptical that I could get much satisfaction in 30 minutes but that was all the time I had and at least it wouldn't cost me much.

Yuxuaoning led me through a door located only feet from where she had been leaning in the corridor, and up the stairs to her third-floor apartment. She asked for payment up front, but after my experience in Thailand, that wasn't about to happen. I did show her the money though, to assure her that I was good for it. She was satisfied with that. With that out of the way, she took off her clothes to reveal a milky white girl-next-door type body.

Yuxuaoning used her soft hands to get my soldier to stand at attention and then I slid on one of my Trojan Magnums. She was tight at first so I started off very slowly on top of her. Once she began to moisten up I increased the speed to a nice steady rhythm. She was fairly vocal and made sounds that I had never heard from women in other countries. About 15 minutes in, all of those noises suddenly stopped as she orgasmed so hard that my pilot was nearly ejected from the cockpit.

After her climax, I flipped her over and enjoyed her from behind. She was a nice, smooth ride from the front, but once we hit the backroad she really shined. Yuxuaoning's backside was the perfect height for my preferred angle of attack, and her crevice was the absolute perfect combination of depth, tightness and moisture for my shaft. In truth, hers might have been the best honeypot I have ever entered. If not, it was definitely top three.

I dug my hands into her hips as I savored everything Yuxuaoning had to offer. I reached my hand beneath her and pulled lightly on her titties, and also gave her ass some light slaps. Not the "who's the boss?" slaps I usually dole out, but rather the kind that just tested the waters to see if she would allow it. She seemed to like them, but I didn't want to push my luck and get my "license revoked" (as Amazake might put it) on my first trip around the block.

It wasn't long before I got into a nice steady rhythm with her that sent me to a place of pure sexual euphoria. From what I could tell, she was loving every long, deep stroke and every five seconds or so her muscles were contracting around me. I couldn't tell if she was in the throes of a rolling orgasm or of she was doing that intentionally to milk my snake and make me finish faster. At any rate, it felt damn good. Soon I wasn't so much worried about whether I could cum in the 30 minute timeframe, as I was worried about how much longer I could hold on.

When I finally exploded with maybe a minute or two to spare, it was a glorious ball- and mind-clearing release that was easily my most memorable climax on a trip that had multiple great ones. Drenched in sweat and dizzy with bliss, I staggered over to the couch and clumsily got dressed. Honestly, I had no idea that cheap sex with a street hooker could be that good. I paid Yuxuaoning the 2. 5 k and gave her a big wet kiss on the cheek, which I don't think went over well with her at all. Given how much she seemed to enjoy the sex, I was surprised by how cold and businesslike she was afterwards. Maybe someone can explain that one to me. Later, I sent her a polite text thanking her and telling her I hope we can do it again in the future. It received no response. I hope I didn't piss her off.

After that titillating experience, I sprinted back to the hotel and then booked to the airport where I made my 11:30 flight with time to spare. Let's just say I slept well on the way home while dreaming of all the beautiful memories that I had just made.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2903300]Given how much she seemed to enjoy the sex, I was surprised by how cold and businesslike she was afterwards. Maybe someone can explain that one to me.[/QUOTE]I can explain that for you pretty easily, and I assume you know it too.

She did not enjoy the sex. It's all pretend.

I read so often that mongerers claim that the working girl they were with climaxed and / or moaned with excitement. It always makes me chuckle.

I've once had the opportunity to have a long talk with two working girls, and we discussed the trade at length. They told me 99% of the orgasms they supposedly have while working are faked. The more she moans, the quicker you cum, and the faster you're out the door. The harsh truth is that she doesn't like having you inside her, she's just working, and the fake orgasm serves a purpose.

Personally, I prefer if a girls stays quiet (gentle moans maybe) rather than the loud fake moaning. Also, her claiming "Oooh, your the*ck is sooo big!" is a real turn-off for me. I know I'm average-sized, I know her moaning is fake. I'd rather not be reminded that this is all theatre in a too obvious way.

True, some girls are better at faking it than others, and those are probably the girls that make you believe you've actually made her cum.

I know some of you are now thinking that this might be true for others, but that you actually made that working girl cum the other day. No, you didn't, sorry.

As an experiment, next time you think she's having a great time, try and say you want to stop because you have to leave for some reason. If you're not a regular (and she has no chance of repeat-business), she'll stop right away she'll be very happy to show you the door ASAP.

Yes, some working girls might prefer you to another client, but it will be because you're polite, because you don't haggle, or because you finish quickly, but not because she's enjoying the sex with you. Your penis isn't special, your technique isn't better than most. You're just a client that she puts through the procedure, and part of that procedure is making you believe you're great. Mission accomplished! Now she can pay her rent, and move on to the next client.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2903300]My trip to Asia had taken me from the alleys of Seoul, to the streets and bars of Bangkok, and finally back to the warm embrace of my lover and friends in the Philippines. But it wasn't quite over yet.

On Monday, I boarded my flight in Cebu bound for the United States. My flight had a lengthy ten-hour layover in Taipei, and that was by design. I intended to use that time to explore the local mongering scene.

I had visited Taipei once before (also on a long layover). I personally found the city to be welcoming, well-designed and oddly romantic. I was able to zip easily from the airport to the heart of the city with public transportation (the MRT) and enjoyed walking the nice (and mostly covered) sidewalks that took me past restaurants, tea shops, convenience stores, massage parlors, and every other type of business. The streets were bustling with people going about their daily lives. From a weather, modernity and population density perspective, the city reminded me a little of San Francisco.

Strangely, I found the women that I saw in Taipei to be, on the whole, the most feminine and attractive in any country I'd visited in Asia. I was not expecting that, as I have never read any reports from foreigners praising the beauty of Taiwanese women in comparison to say, Japanese, Thai or Filipina women. But having made multiple visits to all of those countries, I can confidently say that I am personally more attracted to the physical appearance, fashion style and overall feminine ambience of Taiwanese women than those in any other Asian country I've been to.

With all these tantalizing women roaming around, even riding the subway was a somewhat exciting experience for me. Not speaking a word of Chinese, I knew I had no hope of seducing one of them, nor did I have the time or inclination to try. However, I was certain that somewhere was a place I could spend some quality time with one of them for a price. Unfortunately, on that first trip, I had not yet discovered this forum and I was very limited in my ability to find those women. I wandered around the streets aimlessly and found came up empty. I left disappointed but I was determined to return.

Then I discovered this forum. Inspired by the poet of Taipei, Amazake, I prepared to give the city another try.

My flight landed at 1:30 pm, and with just one small carry-on suitcase I cleared customs in record time. I immediately jumped on the MRT and headed for Taipei Main Station. Then I caught a bus to Wanhua and walked a piece to get to my hotel, the Ximen LE Room Hotel located at No. 32 Kanding Road. You won't find it on Google Maps, but it is across the street from Xin Xin Hot Pot and you should be able to book it on Agoda.

Even though I only planned to stay a few hours, I got a hotel room because 1) I needed a secure place to put my stuff, 2) I needed a nice hot shower and a place to relax before spending 20 straight hours on airplanes and in airports on my way back home, and 3) if I got lucky and found a woman, I needed a place to take her. I was very happy with the LE Room Hotel. Reasonably priced, courteous staff, good air conditioning, comfortable bed, easy check-in / check out. The elevator is slow and the room was a little cramped, but the bathroom was clean and the shower was steaming hot with great water pressure and had the nice soap and shampoo dispensers I like. But what really impressed me was that in the lobby they had a variety of snacks and drinks, and all of them were free to guests. That alone made the place an absolute bargain. I would definitely stay there again.

Wasting no time, I showered and shaved and then headed south down Kangding Street toward Lungshan Temple. It was only about a 1 km walk from the hotel. Even though it was windy and a little chilly outside, I wore a black t-shirt and jeans. I noticed that nearly everyone else seemed to be dressed in a jacket, and I immediately felt like I looked underdressed in addition to looking out of place. But after spending four days in the heat of the Philippines, I was enjoying the feel of cool air on my skin.

Guided by the detailed directions of Amazake, I reached the little market on Xichang Street on the east side of Lungshan Temple around 5 pm. Upon arriving, I immediately realized that I had entered the rough side of town. Most of the vendors there looked impoverished and the place had a seedy feel to it. On each side of the market was a covered corridor, and scattered throughout those corridors, leaned up against the walls, were a number of scantily clad ladies who were clearly trying to attract male clientele. And that day, I wanted to be part of that clientele.

Overall, I was pleased with the selection, especially so early in the day on a Monday. A wave of purient excitement washed over me as I strolled through the market, casually looking from side to side to check out the available options as inconspicuously as possible. Of course, as the only six-foot-two, white, blue-eyed man wearing only a t-shirt in the general vicinity, I am sure I was anything but inconspicuous.

I had found the promiscuous promised land of Wanhua and now it was time to sample a little taste of its bounty. The problem, of course, was that I did not speak a word of Mandarin. I have learned from past experience that it is a good idea to try a few native phrases when approaching and then revert to English or the translator. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. So, I circled around the temple and practiced saying "Nee-how" and "Mia-gush shaw shi-do shau chien"? Which I believe translates to "Hello. How much does it cost for two hours?

I then returned to the market, and this time walked down the narrow side corridors. I broke out my broken Mandarin for the first lady I ran into, who was more or less alone. This lady was on the older side, had more weight on her than I like and didn't seem the least bit excited to see me. She didn't understand what I said, but also didn't immediately tell me to get lost. Which is something I was keenly concerned about after my humbling experience in Korea. So I whipped out my translator and she told me it was 2,000 NTD for 20 minutes. I asked her how much it would be for an hour, and she told me 5,000. I thanked her and said I might be back after dinner. I had zero intention of coming back.

I then crossed the street and went to the other corridor, where I noticed a group of about six lightly-dressed women standing nearly shoulder to shoulder. At least four of them were obviously Thai. One had light skin and appeared to be Chinese / Taiwanese ethnicity. She was cute, slim to average body, maybe around 30 years old, with pitch black hair cut evenly above her shoulder. From a physical standpoint, she was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to find in Taipei. However, she did not speak even one word of English, and had what seemed to be a polite but down-to-business personality, which were both drawbacks. I generally like my street girls to be either innocent fawns, seductive vixens or easygoing girls-next-door, and this woman was none of the above.

Just as we began to discuss pricing details, all six of the women suddenly turned and retreated past me down the corridor, including the one I was chatting with. I was confused. I then noticed a yellow-vested policeman coming down the corridor. I smiled and gave him a "what's up" nod. He nodded back indifferently. For a second, I wondered how strictly prostitution was policed in Taiwan. It was kind of disheartening to see the girls get run off like that and to know that they must always be looking around for approaching law enforcement. And it made me even more determined to give them my business.

After all the girls scurried away, I walked across the street to the area near the metro station to see if there were any more opportunities lurking there. All I found was a sizeable homeless population living in squalor with no attractive women anywhere. So I circled back to the Xichang market. The ladies were back, and I brushed past four or five girls to walk directly up to the one I had been talking with. I think this impressed her, and she seemed to soften up a bit.

The short-haired East Asian quoted me 2 k for 20 minutes and 4. 5 k for an hour. I was honestly expecting the price to be higher than the first woman I talked with because this one was younger and more attractive, but to my delight the price was actually lower. I asked her if she wanted to go back to my hotel room, but she insisted that we go to her room across the street. That was a bit of a turn off for me, and with it still being the daylight hours, I was curious to see what kind of beauties might emerge after dark. She gave me her phone number and I told her I would return after dinner. "Yuxuaoning" was the name she entered in my phone, with digits that ended in 97.

As I walked up the market corridor toward my hotel, I passed several more women including one who immediately caught my attention. She looked like she was of some type of mixed ancestry, with Japanese possibly being the most prominent. Mid-20's and had a cosmopolitan "semi-pro" vibe. She spoke very good English and flirted with me in the provocative way that I crave. This girl was the seductive vixen whose charms I am often unable to resist. I asked if she wanted to go back to my hotel, and she immediately agreed. I asked the price for one hour and she told me 6 k. Well, that was a problem. First of all, I only brought 4 k with me to Taiwan, and to my disbelief, virtually every bank in Wanhua (which seems to be pretty much the only place to exchange currency) closes at 3:30 pm. So I told her I would have to pay in a mixture of US and Taiwanese dollars. She said 200 US dollars would work. And I had two crisp 100 dollar bills with me, but Benjamin Franklin was one of our great Founding Fathers and I don't hand over his likeness to foreigners except in the most exceptional circumstances.

These circumstances were pretty darn exceptional, though. It was the last day of my trip and less than four hours before I needed to check out of my hotel to head back to the airport for a long and arduous journey back to the land of the free. And how much more enjoyable would that trip be if I was slumped back in my seat snoozing in a post-coital state of bliss rather than replaying a string of missed opportunities. I was honestly running out of time. And here she was, a girl straight out of my dirtiest dream, practically begging to fulfill my every desire in the comfort of the hotel room I rented for that exact purpose.

But then I thought of how I got there, and many other places I've been in the world. It was only through the guidance of men like Amazake and others who generously chose to share their secrets so that I and others might also partake in the joys they have experienced. Otherwise, I never would have even known the ladies of the Xichang market existed. And now I was going to come into this sacred place and sow lime in the ground by throwing hundred dollar bills at the local girls? Hell no. I was not going to be that guy.

So instead of accept her offer, I laughed and said "6,000? Incredulously. I then rolled my eyes and said "see you later" and walked off. No counteroffer. Didn't even ask for her name or number.

Now, don't get me wrong. I definitely intended to talk to that girl again. But my plan was to go get dinner and let her stand in that corridor for another hour or so thinking about how she would rather be screwing me and getting paid for it. Meanwhile, I would be able to scope out any more economical (and possibly more attractive) options that might appear after the sun went down. After all, she was only the third girl I'd spoken with in Xichang, and two of them exceeded my standards. Surely there had to be more just around the corner. And if worst came to worst, I had Yuxuaoning's number and she was very reasonably priced.

On my way to dinner, I tried to establish contact Yuxuaoning only to find that she was not on WhatsApp. My heart sank as I feared that she had either typed the number in wrong (I had to add the country code on my own) or had given me a fake number. Fortunately, I had cell phone service, so I sent her a text instead. The text went through but there was no reply.

After dinner, I returned to Xichang market and ran headlong into the old 'bird in the hand' adage. It was now around 7:00 and the quality of options had not improved one bit. In fact, they seemed to have gotten worse. I approached a few women just to check the rates, and some of them outright shooed me away. I didn't see either Yuxuaoning or the hot vixen I had talked to earlier standing where they had been before. One Thai girl tried to drag me aggressively up to her room against my will for a 15-minute quickie, while another Thai "bubblegum brat" rudely told me (in either broken English or Thai) to get lost after I complimented her blue eyes. "Get lost" is a very polite way of phrasing whatever she told me.

I passed on each side of the market two or three times, becoming more desperate and hopeless with each pass. It seemed that all the most alluring women had either retired for the evening or been scooped up by other men, and I was scouring the leftovers. It seemed the evening was not going to end well for me after all.

I checked my phone, and to my shock I had a text from Yuxuaoning. "Where are you?" She asked in Mandarin. However, the text had been sent 20 minutes earlier. I responded in Mandarin that I was close to where I met her and asked where she was. Several minutes passed with no response.

Knowing that my time was running out and not knowing what else to do, I continued to loiter in the market. Suddenly, I heard the sounds of yelling to my left. A fight broke out in the market and I had a ringside seat. Two Asian men were going at it with two other Asian men. Three of them were weilding what looked like knight sticks and another had what appeared to be a dull metal blade. Several blows were struck. Pepper spray was used. One of the men sank what appeared to be a small knife or "shank" into the side of another's neck, causing blood to spurt out onto the pavement. This continued for several minutes and at some point another four men joined in, with four on each side. A crowd gathered around to watch. The men were relentless and were legitimately trying to kill each other.

All of the men were small and wiry, and the scene got my testerone pumping so hard that I was somewhat tempted to step in and manhandle a couple of them to break the fight up. But I thought better of it given the weapons that were involved, I would have almost certainly been struck with something and I don't think they would have stopped anyway. Then one of them pulled out a "gun" and crowd started to scatter as he fired it at one of his rivals and scored a an apparent hit. I put the word gun in parentheses because it merely made a 'pfft' sound and was a pitiful imitation of a real gun by an American standard. If these guys had guns like we all have in America, bullets would have been everywhere and the morgue would have been full that night. It made me ashamed to be glad I was not witnessing this fight in my own country, as I very well may not have lived to tell about it.

Pitiful or not, the shot hit its target and the victim collapsed against a motorcycle. Another assailant then put the wounded man in a headlock and began wailing on him. Suddenly a young woman (possibly one of the hookers?) ran out from the crowd and threw her body over the wounded man pleading for the attacker to stop. The woman's cries were so loud and hysterical that the attacker did back off. Finally, after about ten minutes of nonstop fighting, the police and ambulence arrived. They spoke with one of the men who seemed to me to be the instigator but didn't arrest him. They just tried to calm him down. At that point, I figured I had pressed my luck enough by hanging around that area and I left. I checked my phone: Still no reply from Yuxuaoning.

I got some bubble tea at a tea shop in Ximen and then headed back to the hotel. Just before I got there, I felt a buzz in my pocket. It was Yuxuaoning. "I'll go down" she said in Mandarin. It was apparent to me that the reason she had not responded to my text from 30 minutes earlier was because she had been upstairs with another man. I was just another appointment to fit into her busy schedule. And now she was ready for me. "I'm here waiting for you," she texted a few moments later.

After witnessing that fight, my body was full of testosterone and adrenaline. I have to admit, there was something that aroused me deep inside by being summoned to Yuxuaoning's lair. It felt like she was ringing a dinner bell and daring me to come and get it. It was almost 8:00 and I didn't have much time to think about. I acted purely on instinct. Primal instinct. I turned on my heels and speedwalked back to the Xichang market.

There I found Yuxuaoning, who looked even more enticing than I remembered. I told her the truth, that I didn't have much time. I couldn't spend an hour with her, but I could spend 30 minutes for 2,500 NTD. She accepted.

Yuxuaoning led me through a door located only feet from where she had been leaning in the corridor, and up the stairs to her third-floor apartment. It was hot as a furnace inside with no ventilation and the pungent aroma of sex filled the air. The bedsheets were disheveled and looked like they had hosted many visitors. This was the definition of cheap, raunchy sex. Honestly it might have been my first time in a place like that, and I was both disappointed with myself and aroused at the same time. I was skeptical that I could get much satisfaction in 30 minutes but that was all the time I had and at least it wouldn't cost me much.

Yuxuaoning led me through a door located only feet from where she had been leaning in the corridor, and up the stairs to her third-floor apartment. She asked for payment up front, but after my experience in Thailand, that wasn't about to happen. I did show her the money though, to assure her that I was good for it. She was satisfied with that. With that out of the way, she took off her clothes to reveal a milky white girl-next-door type body.

Yuxuaoning used her soft hands to get my soldier to stand at attention and then I slid on one of my Trojan Magnums. She was tight at first so I started off very slowly on top of her. Once she began to moisten up I increased the speed to a nice steady rhythm. She was fairly vocal and made sounds that I had never heard from women in other countries. About 15 minutes in, all of those noises suddenly stopped as she orgasmed so hard that my pilot was nearly ejected from the cockpit.

After her climax, I flipped her over and enjoyed her from behind. She was a nice, smooth ride from the front, but once we hit the backroad she really shined. Yuxuaoning's backside was the perfect height for my preferred angle of attack, and her crevice was the absolute perfect combination of depth, tightness and moisture for my shaft. In truth, hers might have been the best honeypot I have ever entered. If not, it was definitely top three.

I dug my hands into her hips as I savored everything Yuxuaoning had to offer. I reached my hand beneath her and pulled lightly on her titties, and also gave her ass some light slaps. Not the "who's the boss?" slaps I usually dole out, but rather the kind that just tested the waters to see if she would allow it. She seemed to like them, but I didn't want to push my luck and get my "license revoked" (as Amazake might put it) on my first trip around the block.

It wasn't long before I got into a nice steady rhythm with her that sent me to a place of pure sexual euphoria. From what I could tell, she was loving every long, deep stroke and every five seconds or so her muscles were contracting around me. I couldn't tell if she was in the throes of a rolling orgasm or of she was doing that intentionally to milk my snake and make me finish faster. At any rate, it felt damn good. Soon I wasn't so much worried about whether I could cum in the 30 minute timeframe, as I was worried about how much longer I could hold on.

When I finally exploded with maybe a minute or two to spare, it was a glorious ball- and mind-clearing release that was easily my most memorable climax on a trip that had multiple great ones. Drenched in sweat and dizzy with bliss, I staggered over to the couch and clumsily got dressed. Honestly, I had no idea that cheap sex with a street hooker could be that good. I paid Yuxuaoning the 2. 5 k and gave her a big wet kiss on the cheek, which I don't think went over well with her at all. Given how much she seemed to enjoy the sex, I was surprised by how cold and businesslike she was afterwards. Maybe someone can explain that one to me. Later, I sent her a polite text thanking her and telling her I hope we can do it again in the future. It received no response. I hope I didn't piss her off.

After that titillating experience, I sprinted back to the hotel and then booked to the airport where I made my 11:30 flight with time to spare. Let's just say I slept well on the way home while dreaming of all the beautiful memories that I had just made.[/QUOTE]"Veni Vidi Vici," All hail KaptnAmerica!

Although "Veni Vidi Vici," (I came, I saw, I conquered) is usually attributed to the Roman Emperor Julius Caesar, it seems most fitting in this instance for it to be ascribed, also, to you, KaptnAmerica, for your fine work in Wanhua, with so little time, on a wing and a prayer. And, I will add one more term from the Latin language, "Bravisimo!

Well, Captain, I am "almost"speechless. And, that is something that I can be seldom accused of.

You certainly deserve an award of meritorious action for your quick intuitive grasping of the Wanhua scene.

It took myself many more visits to accomplish any degree of proficiency, and you seem to have gotten yourself up to speed in a matter of minutes.

You moved like a skilled "middleweight," bobbing and weaving in and out of alleys, dodging bullets and knives, violence and death, meeting and negotiating with Asian street girls of many varieties. And, in the end, scoring with a beauty at a fair price.

But, it's obvious that you are a "journeyman," with great skills in this hobby that you have transferred to this new territory with stealthy efficiency.

Congratulations, and thank you for your incredibly exciting novella, replete with a plethora of facts and tidbits that enliven your telling of your experiences with great relatability and vibrancy, usually attributed to a classic 007 action thriller.

The girl not texting you back, although she might have enjoyed her orgasmic escapades with you, might have found your "magnum" a bit much to take on a steady basis. Oftentimes they forego the sexual pleasure and opt for the bliss of the more lucrative financial benefit with customers less endowed and preventing less wear-and-tear in their "nether region. ".

I once watched, utterly shocked, when every girl in the alley rushed to the side of an elderly decrepit man using a walker to ambulate his way through the tea house alleys of Huaxi. He really did not look very capable of performing the act, but was well-dressed and they knew they could play tit-for-tat with him, get their friends involved, and with no wear-and-tear on their bodies, line their pockets with plenty of cash. You can be assured that his texts would be answered immediately.

And, I just have to say, in all my years in these parts, I have never seen fighting escalate to the level of guns and knives being brandished and used, and gushing of blood—violent street crimes. Especially with the police station a short block away and so many armed police officers in the vicinity.

I will have to assume that excitement follows you!

And in conclusion, Captain, it is plain to see that if you accomplished so much in deciphering the "Wanhua Code," in your few hours of free time spent there on the tail end of your Asian tour, had you devoted a few more days there, you would have far surpassed my meager output which is many years in the making.

Alas, some of us are destined for the fast lane, while others like myself, "plodders. " (LOL).

Thank you for your marvelous work and contribution to this thread. Many Blessings in all your endeavors. Godspeed!

Wanhua. Xichang bustling!

The other night, I have never seen the Xichang Market so overpopulated with young ladies. I am talking around 60 to 70 ladies. And, the "law" would swing by, and the girls would flea like chickens from the fox.

Anyway, I first went for a totally legit back-walking massage which was excellent. And, feeling nimble, wiry and lively, bumped into my "Long Tall Sally," sexy, vivacious, vixen, spilling out of her tight short-shorts and t shirt, elevated on 5 inch heels, and she is impossible to resist. Old friends, and never failed to absolutely take care of me, showering me with lavish attention from start to finish.

She is close to 40 with some work done on her abundant breasts, and she has a derrière that is incredibly round and plump.

She possesses a very bubbly, efflorescent, fun-loving, sassy spirit that aims to please beyond the call of duty, and enjoys the play.

I guess it's called role-play. She gets really excited and calls me "elder brother. " And I retort calling her "little sister" as she rides and gushes.

We also formed the habit of complimenting each other incessantly during the excitement of the love-play. Had a great time.

I took a week off from my regular girl, but I have not abandoned her. As they say, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder. ".

[QUOTE=NotReallyMark;2903557]I can explain that for you pretty easily, and I assume you know it too.

She did not enjoy the sex. It's all pretend.

I read so often that mongerers claim that the working girl they were with climaxed and / or moaned with excitement. It always makes me chuckle.

I've once had the opportunity to have a long talk with two working girls, and we discussed the trade at length. They told me 99% of the orgasms they supposedly have while working are faked. The more she moans, the quicker you cum, and the faster you're out the door. The harsh truth is that she doesn't like having you inside her, she's just working, and the fake orgasm serves a purpose.

Personally, I prefer if a girls stays quiet (gentle moans maybe) rather than the loud fake moaning. Also, her claiming "Oooh, your the*ck is sooo big!" is a real turn-off for me. I know I'm average-sized, I know her moaning is fake. I'd rather not be reminded that this is all theatre in a too obvious way.

True, some girls are better at faking it than others, and those are probably the girls that make you believe you've actually made her cum.

I know some of you are now thinking that this might be true for others, but that you actually made that working girl cum the other day. No, you didn't, sorry.

As an experiment, next time you think she's having a great time, try and say you want to stop because you have to leave for some reason. If you're not a regular (and she has no chance of repeat-business), she'll stop right away she'll be very happy to show you the door ASAP.

Yes, some working girls might prefer you to another client, but it will be because you're polite, because you don't haggle, or because you finish quickly, but not because she's enjoying the sex with you. Your penis isn't special, your technique isn't better than most. You're just a client that she puts through the procedure, and part of that procedure is making you believe you're great. Mission accomplished! Now she can pay her rent, and move on to the next client.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct!

[QUOTE=NotReallyMark;2903557]I can explain that for you pretty easily, and I assume you know it too.

She did not enjoy the sex. It's all pretend.

I read so often that mongerers claim that the working girl they were with climaxed and / or moaned with excitement. It always makes me chuckle.

I've once had the opportunity to have a long talk with two working girls, and we discussed the trade at length. They told me 99% of the orgasms they supposedly have while working are faked. The more she moans, the quicker you cum, and the faster you're out the door. The harsh truth is that she doesn't like having you inside her, she's just working, and the fake orgasm serves a purpose.

Personally, I prefer if a girls stays quiet (gentle moans maybe) rather than the loud fake moaning. Also, her claiming "Oooh, your the*ck is sooo big!" is a real turn-off for me. I know I'm average-sized, I know her moaning is fake. I'd rather not be reminded that this is all theatre in a too obvious way.

True, some girls are better at faking it than others, and those are probably the girls that make you believe you've actually made her cum.

I know some of you are now thinking that this might be true for others, but that you actually made that working girl cum the other day. No, you didn't, sorry.

As an experiment, next time you think she's having a great time, try and say you want to stop because you have to leave for some reason. If you're not a regular (and she has no chance of repeat-business), she'll stop right away she'll be very happy to show you the door ASAP.

Yes, some working girls might prefer you to another client, but it will be because you're polite, because you don't haggle, or because you finish quickly, but not because she's enjoying the sex with you. Your penis isn't special, your technique isn't better than most. You're just a client that she puts through the procedure, and part of that procedure is making you believe you're great. Mission accomplished! Now she can pay her rent, and move on to the next client.[/QUOTE]I've been seeing providers for around a decade now and got to know some of them on a personal level too. It's just a job for them. Good providers can make you feel special and wanted. They know repeat customers provide a steady source of income. A lot of provider don't even feel anything during penetration because their minds are not in it. We're all in it for something. Guys need a release. Providers need money.

[QUOTE=NotReallyMark;2903557]I can explain that for you pretty easily, and I assume you know it too.

She did not enjoy the sex. It's all pretend.

I read so often that mongerers claim that the working girl they were with climaxed and / or moaned with excitement. It always makes me chuckle.

I've once had the opportunity to have a long talk with two working girls, and we discussed the trade at length. They told me 99% of the orgasms they supposedly have while working are faked. The more she moans, the quicker you cum, and the faster you're out the door. The harsh truth is that she doesn't like having you inside her, she's just working, and the fake orgasm serves a purpose.

Personally, I prefer if a girls stays quiet (gentle moans maybe) rather than the loud fake moaning. Also, her claiming "Oooh, your the*ck is sooo big!" is a real turn-off for me. I know I'm average-sized, I know her moaning is fake. I'd rather not be reminded that this is all theatre in a too obvious way.

True, some girls are better at faking it than others, and those are probably the girls that make you believe you've actually made her cum.

I know some of you are now thinking that this might be true for others, but that you actually made that working girl cum the other day. No, you didn't, sorry.

As an experiment, next time you think she's having a great time, try and say you want to stop because you have to leave for some reason. If you're not a regular (and she has no chance of repeat-business), she'll stop right away she'll be very happy to show you the door ASAP.

Yes, some working girls might prefer you to another client, but it will be because you're polite, because you don't haggle, or because you finish quickly, but not because she's enjoying the sex with you. Your penis isn't special, your technique isn't better than most. You're just a client that she puts through the procedure, and part of that procedure is making you believe you're great. Mission accomplished! Now she can pay her rent, and move on to the next client.[/QUOTE]I can only partially agree with you.

Of course, there are the obvious "stage shows" when a girl will start panting at the sight of you. Sure, she wants to make you feel adored so you become a part of her business plan for steady income. She puts on a great performance.

But, the above is definitely not the whole story.

Many times, the alarm clock whistles, and she is dripping wet and her heart is beating and she is sweating and you want to disengage, and she pulls you back in.

This is on her time. She gave you, already, everything you paid for, and more. But, she won't let you go and tells you in a panting whisper "it's okay, let's continue. ".

Let's not be ridiculous and say that she loves you. But, let's be practical and say that the friction between your organs, and your amiable disposition was good for her. Or, she finds you comforting, you treated her right.

There are times when a girl is just turned on, just like any other mammal. She forgets to lube because she is already wet, just because of the magnetism between opposite sexes.

Sure, what you are saying is generally true, but certainly not always.

Without a Hollywood makeup artist on the set, there is no way a working girl is that great an actress where she is able to gush from below, spontaneously sweat, have her skin turn to red, have her breath patterns become severely short-patterned, rhythmic, deep, and have her grasp of you be unwilling to release you.

Surely, her original intention was to get paid, and give your manhood a short visit in her cave, and get you out, ASAP, and move onto the next victim.

But, "nature" sometimes will rewrite the script, beyond her control and intention.

Nature takes over and the friction between your organs did what they were designed to do for the purpose of survival of the species, and she finds herself enjoying pleasures of sex. She softens and gives into the experience. And, her body and emotions trumps her mind, and she finds herself in the midst of an orgasm.

Surely she wanted to avoid that scenario of her expending her energy needlessly, and surely she would prefer to get your dough without having to sweat and pant and require a longer shower and calming down period before her next john.

But, it is absolutely unavoidable for a paid girl to get aroused, "sometimes," and she is lying if she tells you otherwise. Many others will tell you the opposite, that getting excited and orgasming is just unavoidable.

[QUOTE=NotReallyMark;2903557]I can explain that for you pretty easily, and I assume you know it too.

She did not enjoy the sex. It's all pretend.

I read so often that mongerers claim that the working girl they were with climaxed and / or moaned with excitement. It always makes me chuckle.

I've once had the opportunity to have a long talk with two working girls, and we discussed the trade at length. They told me 99% of the orgasms they supposedly have while working are faked. The more she moans, the quicker you cum, and the faster you're out the door. The harsh truth is that she doesn't like having you inside her, she's just working, and the fake orgasm serves a purpose.

Personally, I prefer if a girls stays quiet (gentle moans maybe) rather than the loud fake moaning. Also, her claiming "Oooh, your the*ck is sooo big!" is a real turn-off for me. I know I'm average-sized, I know her moaning is fake. I'd rather not be reminded that this is all theatre in a too obvious way.

True, some girls are better at faking it than others, and those are probably the girls that make you believe you've actually made her cum.

I know some of you are now thinking that this might be true for others, but that you actually made that working girl cum the other day. No, you didn't, sorry.

As an experiment, next time you think she's having a great time, try and say you want to stop because you have to leave for some reason. If you're not a regular (and she has no chance of repeat-business), she'll stop right away she'll be very happy to show you the door ASAP.

Yes, some working girls might prefer you to another client, but it will be because you're polite, because you don't haggle, or because you finish quickly, but not because she's enjoying the sex with you. Your penis isn't special, your technique isn't better than most. You're just a client that she puts through the procedure, and part of that procedure is making you believe you're great. Mission accomplished! Now she can pay her rent, and move on to the next client.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the feedback and you are probably right. When I replay the sequence in my head, I have to conclude that her motivation in having sex was 100% for money and zero percent for pleasure.

I usually try to avoid those types of girls. I like the types who are having sex for pleasure almost as much as for money, or the types who can't help but enjoy the experience. I believe they are out there and I have been lucky to spend time with many of them. Clearly they are the exception and not the rule. The trick is figuring out which type they are before you get them in bed. Often that is not easy but only comes with experience and intuition.

I think Amazake is one of the more skilled men on this forum in separating the wheat from the chaff on the street. And I greatly admire his talent and dedication in that regard. I think he speaks the truth when he says that "sometimes" the women cannot help themselves. Especially the ones who already predisposed to enjoying the act.

Now, I have no illusions of being able to curl the toes of local women like the poet of this thread, who has spent years sifting and cultivating the ladies of Wanhua with great skill, and I knew from our first interaction that Yuxauoning fell squarely into the "strictly business" category of street girl. So I wasn't expecting much when I followed her up the stairs to her apartment.

But once I was inside of her, it seemed to me that her natural womanly instincts took over and she gave in to the pleasurable sensations of intercourse. Of course, she could have been faking it every reaction she had, counting down the seconds until it all ended. But if that was the case, she did a terrific job, because her vocalizations were staccato and uneven, and not particularly attractive to hear. They were not the dramatized and sustained moaning that I personally associate with a woman faking pleasure for my benefit. The same with her facial expressions. It seemed to me that she was not in control of the sounds / expression she was making and was genuinely experiencing pain, pleasure or both.

I also have to wonder if she would have let me continue past the 30 minute mark. If we get together again one day, I might try and see. I definitely didn't want to push my luck that day because that was my last chance to get some relief before my flight. And truthfully, with how good she felt while I was hammering her on all fours, I don't know how much longer past the time limit I could have lasted. She did get a phone call while I was enjoying her from behind, and she didn't even pause to see who was calling. That turned me on. I imagined it was her boyfriend calling to see where she was and when she was coming home. I love dirty taboo thoughts like that when I'm about to blow a load.

Anyway, she certainly could have been intending to fool me by vocalizing in an uneven and restrained way, to make it more believable. And I suppose the "orgasm" could have been faked as well, although that would have been counterproductive because she clamped down so hard on me that it made me momentarily stop my thrusts and switch positions. If that is the case, she did a fine job of fooling me. But either way, I enjoyed her desperate-but-toned-down reactions and that is all that mattered to me.

It also made me realize that perhaps I enjoy sex more with women who are more under control during the act. Those that enjoy it too much often encourage me to focus on maximizing their pleasure while neglecting my own. So maybe there is something to be said for women who are more on the stoic side of the spectrum. This may be why I enjoyed Yuxauoning as much as any woman on my trip. Because I had no emotional connection with her and the focus was on my pleasure and not hers maybe that lack of emotional connection is why she didn't exactly melt when I kissed her on the cheek and didn't text me back. Pleasure or no pleasure, it was just business.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2903784]Wanhua. Xichang bustling!

The other night, I have never seen the Xichang Market so overpopulated with young ladies. I am talking around 60 to 70 ladies. And, the "law" would swing by, and the girls would flea like chickens from the fox.[/QUOTE]60-70?! You must be kidding. There were 25-30 at most when I was there last week and I had plenty of options. The girl to guy ratio is crazy, which I guess is why the prices stay low. It's a good thing no one else reads this thread or guys would be on that spot like flies on honey.

By the way, how many would you estimate were Thai? Because I would only be interested in the native or East Asian options. That is if I was still around there, which sadly I'm not. But a man can daydream. Sixty to seventy, sheesh.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2903938]60-70?! You must be kidding. There were 25-30 at most when I was there last week and I had plenty of options. The girl to guy ratio is crazy, which I guess is why the prices stay low. It's a good thing no one else reads this thread or guys would be on that spot like flies on honey.

By the way, how many would you estimate were Thai? Because I would only be interested in the native or East Asian options. That is if I was still around there, which sadly I'm not. But a man can daydream. Sixty to seventy, sheesh.[/QUOTE]I go there pretty often, and I never saw so many. It looked like all Thais. Of course, I didn't take a survey. But, the way they congregated, it looked like Thais. And, I never checked the Diamond Building / Kangding alleys.

Usually there are three or four main gatherings on Xichang, but there were all the prior gatherings, plus additional gatherings close to Guilin. And, there were girls in the middle island, but that was more temporary as they were avoiding police. I never saw Xichang that busy. But, in the past, the Diamond Building / Kangding were overflowing mostly with excellent work ethic Vietnamese and also girls from Burma, and Mainlanders.

I find myself gravitating towards lasting friendships with the Taiwanese. But, with so many Thais and high competition driving the prices down or at least stabilizing prices, I might sample.

Hello all, I'm a long time lurker. I've resided in Taiwan close to a decade but only sparingly tested the waters of the adult scene, mainly with the tea delivery. Despite being around so long I'd never taken the time to browse at Xichang but recently I have taken a couple of walks and I'm considering participating. I have a few simple questions that I'm hoping someone won't mind helping me out with.

1) What is the best day and time to go to Xichang? I've walked around both at night and during the day and have seen some younger SEA-looking girls, but I would say just a dozen at most, not a whole lot.

2) What can I expect to pay? I don't need to be super cheap, I'm happy to pay more for a better experience but I'm not sure the ballpark.

3) What can be expected as far as kissing and BBBJ go?

4) What are the rooms like? Clean? Showers?

5) I speak Chinese reasonably but unfortunately I've never been brave enough to ask a tutor for some common terms regarding sexual activity. How does one say some common sexual acts in Chinese?

Appreciate any answers to these plus any other tips.

[QUOTE=Bigfist;2904492]Hello all, I'm a long time lurker. I've resided in Taiwan close to a decade but only sparingly tested the waters of the adult scene, mainly with the tea delivery. Despite being around so long I'd never taken the time to browse at Xichang but recently I have taken a couple of walks and I'm considering participating. I have a few simple questions that I'm hoping someone won't mind helping me out with.

1) What is the best day and time to go to Xichang? I've walked around both at night and during the day and have seen some younger SEA-looking girls, but I would say just a dozen at most, not a whole lot.

2) What can I expect to pay? I don't need to be super cheap, I'm happy to pay more for a better experience but I'm not sure the ballpark.

3) What can be expected as far as kissing and BBBJ go?

4) What are the rooms like? Clean? Showers?

5) I speak Chinese reasonably but unfortunately I've never been brave enough to ask a tutor for some common terms regarding sexual activity. How does one say some common sexual acts in Chinese?

Appreciate any answers to these plus any other tips.[/QUOTE]Maybe other guys can offer more and better suggestions and information on this area. Many that speak and write Mandarin have a deeper understanding than myself.

Also, you should read through the many posts in this thread because so much has already been written here on this specific area.

It will benefit you to scan through the various posts and you will enrich yourself with the knowledge of many guy's opinions and experiences.

Many guys fly into town, and on the strength of what has already been written for posterity here in this thread, and are fully equipped to navigate themselves through the process quite successfully and admirably.

But, generally it is busier in the evenings, although there are always girls there in the afternoons and some early birds in the mornings. Like anything else, there are shifts. But, around 6:00,7:00,8:00 PM seems busiest.

Weekends are also busier with more selection. Rainy and cold nights reduce numbers greatly.

Price varies. Generally around 1500. Some lower, some higher. But 1500 seems to be the default price. They like to charge foreigners more, but you can stand firm on price and get it for 1500 for around 20 minutes. But, these girls are independent contractors and can create rules on the fly.

Not much kissing and BBBJ with the young girls in Xichang / Kangding, but some of the older ladies in the Huaxi Market will do almost (scary) anything. But, maybe other guys can offer more, because I usually stay away from mucus membrane contacts.

The rooms vary from being acceptable (never luxurious) to being messy, sloppy, lived in, with a very basic platform bed. Not really dirty. But, these are old alleys, and some areas are depressed and dank, dark. Girls in the Kangding area working in the Diamond building have brighter, cleaner accommodations. Sometimes a particular girl's room is brighter and more appealing. Sometimes rooms are commonly shared and used for these purposes and sometimes the girls are domiciled in the rooms. For myself, it matters little. My mind is laser focused on the girl in my grasp. If she is good looking, the room is 5 stars, even if it is subpar. But, I have sometimes been very pleasantly surprised by a girl's sense of pristine cleanliness and artistic aesthetics in a room. I will admire and praise her to no end. But, unfortunately, very rare. And, the shock of the rarity causes me to praise her sense of sophistication in an area that is generally known for its stark basic accommodations.

Sometimes there is a shower, and sometimes there is no shower, no toilet and no sink. A common hallway bathroom might be accessible.

One of my regulars has a pleasant room, quite comfortable and clean. My other regular is skid row. No shower, no sink, no toilet. She depends on "baby wipes" for cleansing body parts.

You can easily get by with absolutely no Chinese whatsoever. Hand gestures are used. And, besides, the Thais and Vietnamese oftentimes speak no Chinese, and sometimes speak good English. It matters not at all. You will communicate near perfectly in any country on the globe when a male and female are paired alone naked on a bed.

And, just Google a few sexual terms if you want to communicate specifically in the Chinese language with the native speakers.

Generally speaking, it is the most basic service, but the most basic service can be turned into something memorable and exciting, depending on how you approach it, and your input. The very same girl on the very same day can be a boon or bust, depending on your chemistry together and your combined patience in allowing greater satisfaction and pleasantry to emerge.

I'm sure others can contribute and fill in the gaps. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2904614]

And, just Google a few sexual terms if you want to communicate specifically in the Chinese language with the native speakers.

Generally speaking, it is the most basic service, but the most basic service can be turned into something memorable and exciting, depending on how you approach it, and your input. The very same girl on the very same day can be a boon or bust, depending on your chemistry together and your combined patience in allowing greater satisfaction and pleasantry to emerge.

I'm sure others can contribute and fill in the gaps. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your info. I've looked through some older posts (although the search functionality of the forum is a little slow and limited) and it does seem like peoples experiences do vary a bit.

Re using google to find terms, perhaps I can find a glossary of terms somewhere. As someone who speaks a little Chinese I know Google translate has its limitations and inaccuracies.

Another question: is there anywhere in the area where you can get a draft beer to enjoy al fresco? (Not club 7 LOL).

Just got back to the states and wanted to post a report of my experience at the spa based on the information gathered here. (Thanks).

Basically it was the last day in Taiwan after a long 3 week tour of the island. Was in Kaohsiung but left a day early to head back to Taipei and meetup with friends before I head back. Since this was a change in the itinerary, I needed to find a hotel. Then I remember reading these spas in Taipei. Figured I can kill 2 birds with one stone.

After a night of friends, food, and drinks, one of them dropped me off at the spa around 12:30 am. Everything around there was already closed so took some searching to find the entrance and elevator up to the spa at the 15th floor of the building. Went to the front desk and got checked in. They set me up with one of those wrist key for the locker and it has a number to identify you so they know who to bill any food / drinks or extras.

So the first location is the locker, where you undress and put all your valuables in. Once done, I just followed the exit of the locker room and it took me straight to spa / sauna area. In the center of the room, there is a sink area where people would wash up, brush their teeth and such. Beyond that, they had like 3 or 4 big pool area with different water temperatures. And on the side, it was the toilets and steam / sauna. I cleaned myself up and sat in the steam room for about 10 minutes and decided it was enough to head over to the main event. At the exit, there are clean robes and boxers for all to use before they head on over to the common lounge area. While heading there, I see stations for people to get a haircut and / or shave. Then another room that is pretty dark with a TV and lounge chairs. Beyond that leads to the open area where there is a bar area where you can get water / tea and order food. You seem quite a few people just past out sleeping on various sofa. I took a seat in the back where I can observe the room.

About 3 minutes after I sat down, a fairly attractive older lady (35-40) walked up to me and asked if I wanted a massage. I of course said yes. Then she asked if I wanted the "special" massage. I believe her exact words were "special 按25705; English Chinese. I said yes and she said she would be right back. After 5 minutes, she came back and apologized saying all the girls are busy and it would be 30-45 minutes. Since I was planning to stay there till morning, I said not a problem and we just started to chat. The standard 'where are you from? 'what do you do? Found out she is 42 and her daughter is studying in the states (Washington UW). After about 10 minutes, new guys started to enter the lounge so she took off to inquire about massage. She is the one that gives the legit ones in the next room. So another 15-20 minutes go by and lady came up to me and informed me they are ready for me. She took me to the exit and stairway and we went up a flight or two and into a dimly lit hallway with rooms on either side. We went into one of the empty rooms and she told me to wait. A few minutes goes by and she returns, then the first lady steps into the doorway for me to review. She was a bit on the older side so I passed on her. #2 was younger but was about 4 in the looks department. #3 wasn't any better. #4 also the same. I prefer the Thailand / Vietnam / China style where you see all in one place and choose. Anyway, #5 was the best of the bunch but still about a 5/6 in the looks a not as slim as what I preferred but also didn't want to stay here forever so I selected her. She came in and gave me a hug, kiss on the cheeks then took a look at my key number and left the room saying she would be right back. Once she got back, she undressed and excused herself to the corner shower to relieve herself and do the hooker wash of the privates and armpits. Some basic chit chat, told her I'm from the states and then she switched over to speaking English. It was actually pretty decent. So for about 5 minutes, she gave me a back massage while giving me a quick summary of how she studied in New York for a few years. Then came the flip. They did the hot / cold tea BJ thing. It was okay but I normally just preferred the wet and sloppy BBBJ. Anyway, she spit the tea back into a cup and got on top of me doing the cowgirl. She is on the thicker side but a side benefit is that she also has fairly large breasts. (D / DD) So I was fondling those for a little while then we switched to doggie then mesh. I was kind of tired after traveling and it being late so she ended giving me a BBBJ and I came in her mouth. Ahhhhhhh. Relaxing. We cleaned ourselves and and traded LINE info then she took me to the exit stairway where I went back down to the common area. I then proceeded to sleep like a baby for a few hours until morning. Went back the way I came and back to the front desk. The total damage was $4200 TWD. This was a interesting experience but not sure I would do it again. I would prefer to sleep in a real bed and in a private hotel room. I'm heading back to Taiwan in June, may try the other sauna but not to sleep.

Cya, safe mongering.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2893576]

. Sometimes a good therapeutic massage is fine for like 70 minutes or 90 minutes for around 700 to 1000 NT, and an HJ for another 500. Because, at least you got to spend more than an hour with a woman and you walk away feeling good from a true therapeutic massage with hints and teasing that the ending will be intense and satisfying.

Those non-therapeutic massage joints are oftentimes hit or miss. The massage is light finger pressure and the negotiations for hand, mouth or full service can be a pricey menu. But, if you know the girl or you are going based on a good recommendation, a great time could be had in all phases.[/QUOTE]Amazeke, is there a parlor your recommend and a lady or number your recommend?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=MikeApple81;2905106]Amazeke, is there a parlor your recommend and a lady or number your recommend?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Sorry, but I have no expertise in the sensual massage parlor arena.

There are plenty of guys on this board that have their favorite spas and numbers. Reading a few pages back in this thread, a member recently posted locations and girl numbers.

I kind of keep legit massage and mongering separate. I like my legit massage almost always performed by the girl standing and walking on my body.

My mindset is enjoying a very rigorous, slightly painful way of releasing deep-seated tensions.

However, if a spontaneous tent springs up, her and I might discuss a remedy. But, I can take it or leave it, because my vigorous massage does not have the intention of sensuality. And, I can just walk down the street and find a girl dedicated to her specialty of sensual pleasures.

But, I do understand that most places combine light therapeutic massage, sensual massage, and a good and proper romp, all in one.

And, like you, I would be interested in learning some good places and girl numbers to keep in my files for a rainy day.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2905317]Sorry, but I have no expertise in the sensual massage parlor arena...[/QUOTE]I just read about the earthquake on the news. Are you all OK? How bad is the damage? Sending thoughts and prayers your way.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2905883]I just read about the earthquake on the news. Are you all OK? How bad is the damage? Sending thoughts and prayers your way.[/QUOTE]Thank you for checking in, Captain. I hope and pray that all are well. Unfortunately, some casualties and injuries. Hualien was the epicenter. I was about 100 miles away. Certainly felt the sustained rather vigorous rocking. Most locals take it in stride, though, having grown up in this part of the world where it is not welcomed, but more or less expected to occur.

Again, thanks for checking in on friends. Blessings to you and to all.

Going on a date tomorrow. Wanted to get all the ants out of my pants before hand (might even stop by after too) so I headed over to tried and true Tianlong Spa. Got good and nude along the likes of a bunch of 50+ year-old men and proceeded to shower and soak in the heated pool.

Once I was all relaxed, I proceeded to the dining area where I was immediately approached by a woman asking if I wanted a massage. I said sure in a bit, but surprisingly she wasn't the one to take me to the inbetween floor. She proceeded to inform me that she was for the regular massages. A little dejected, I walked down the staircase lo'and behold' the actual mama-san showed up and proceeded to walk me arm & arm into the passage like we were old mates. It was oddly comforting and scary at the same time. Must mean I frequent Tianlong too much.

Telling her I wanted some one busty today, she proceeded to take me to my room. I waited less than 2 minutes before the first knock. This tall, beautiful woman asked me if she was "Okay", unfortunately she wasn't to my tastes. A few moments later another knock came by but they had some trouble opening the door, for a brief moment I thought I was locked in. Soon as I wrestled the door open, I was greeted the MILF of my dreams, number 50 - yanzi-.

She had hair that reminded me of Mariko from the FX show Shogun, big doe eyes, and a very pretty face. She was roughly 160 CM tall, full bodied with see-the sized breasts and a nice shapely heart shaped ass. I had an immediate stiffy as she walked in with her lacey light blue nighty style dress. Before she could ask if she was okay, I said yes.

She looks down and giggles and tells me she'll be right back and proceeds to gather towels and other necessities. A few minutes go by and she returns with everything but earing a facemask. She tells me to lay on my stomach and proceeds to start the "massage".

As she's massaging me, she starts stripping. She rubs her tits all over me and I can feel her nice and plump nipples. Fuck they were nice. I couldn't hold so I turned around and she giggled. She proceeded to push me down and lick me all over. Suddenly and without notice, she started to blow me, but she sneakily snuck a condom on. I asked for it to be removed and she said sure but FS will require a condom, I agreed and she proceeded to blow me, gagging on the rod and the balls, it was incredible. For this blowjob alone, I'm going to shell out the 4200 at Tianlong.

A bit into it, I ask if I could make out with her and she giggled. I sat up and proceeded to kiss her while she massaged my rod. Soon as I was in a sitting position, my hands went all over her, my left went straight for her wet pussy and my right right to her juicy nipple. I devoured her face and then moved down to suckle on her tits all the while fingering the shit out of her, at one point I'm sure I made her cum just from fingering. Could feel the squeeze and the extra wetness. I then proceeded to lick my finger and I fingered both her holes, sticking my index up her asshole. She seemed to enjoy it to where she pushed me down and started to mount me without a condom on. As soon as the tip touched, she said "oops" and dismounted to find a rubber. After covering me up, she pushed me down to ride. Shit was great.

I'm not a minute man by any means but my lord I must've cum a few minutes in with all the convulsions I could feel from her ****. She was delightfully tight, so tight that I had difficulty pulling out.

Fuck I'm getting a chubby just recollecting what happened this afternoon.

After I finished, she cleaned me off, and proceeded to make out with me some more. I continued to finger her. By the time the phone rang to tell us time was up, my left hand was drenched and the towel on the bench was drenched. I was also hard again. She proceed to suck me and then finished me with a hand job. I almost came on her face.

Fuck me. I wanted to give this pro more money.

All in all, I left thoroughly drained and weak in the legs. I went up stairs, drank some iced tea and then took another shower + bath before proceeding to leave.

I'm going to see this ***** again. Maybe tomorrow after my date.

Professional: #50 - Yan Zi.

Face: 7/10.

Age: 30+.

Type: Local Taiwanese.

Height: 160+.

Weight: 40-50 KG. Not heavy despite the fullbody.

Breasts: Amazing. C-d's with plump mature nipples.

Ass: Good sized.

Service: 10/10.

Would I return: Probably tomorrow.

Damage: 4200.

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2895374]I visited #88. Low massage skills, fairly tall for a Vietnamese girl, a little tummy, bored attitude and certainly not stacked. I would say American large be. Didn't go back.

Down the main road at 206 there is a girl I like. #2, white skin Cambodian whos been in forever, pretty pretty face, mid to late 20's, 5'1" petite with American see cup, large areola, and tiny ripples. I like sweet voice and attitude. She's shy but after a visit she was willing to drop her top to reveal her package. Wow. Her massage is pretty good too.

She barely speaks English but can carry a good conversation in Chinese if you want. And she's playful which is refreshing.

She has a BF so I didn't really push too much for more than a HJ. I was there the other night and she actually gave me 20-30 min extra. Tipped 1 k.

On a separate topic, I think I prefer girls that do good BJs rather than FS. Any leads to good clean BJ girls?[/QUOTE]Do you think her BF watches who goes into the spa and sees her? If I see her often will her BF threaten me?

I have this image of my mind if I see her too often, her BF may attack me or threaten me. I'm a younger guy.

Thanks for your thoughts!

[QUOTE=MikeApple81;2906762]Do you think her BF watches who goes into the spa and sees her? If I see her often will her BF threaten me?

I have this image of my mind if I see her too often, her BF may attack me or threaten me. I'm a younger guy.

Thanks for your thoughts![/QUOTE]Calm down. I wouldn't worry at all about her boyfriend.

She works there and her boyfriend surely knows what she does and the countless proposals she gets for various extra sexual services. He must condone her lifestyle because he benefits from her financially.

Yeah, it's a weird arrangement, but it goes on all the time. Many of these girls have boyfriends, husbands, children and families. And, they understand her business.

Relax. Take a deep breath, young man. Nobody is going to beat you up for giving their girlfriend money. A polite "thank you" would be more in order.

[QUOTE=MikeApple81;2906762]Do you think her BF watches who goes into the spa and sees her? If I see her often will her BF threaten me?

I have this image of my mind if I see her too often, her BF may attack me or threaten me. I'm a younger guy.

Thanks for your thoughts![/QUOTE]BF doesn't care. He's part of the group that is selling her out for the money, probably to pay off his debt or something.

The more she offers (FS, etc.) the more they make.

There's a very dark side to many of these girls that are working in these places.

Anyone have experience at Kedia Massage on Linden Rd. ?

It's a huge luxury building and it looks like a legit massage place, but I see some characters hanging out around that area.

[QUOTE=MikeApple81;2907041]Anyone have experience at Kedia Massage on Linden Rd. ?

It's a huge luxury building and it looks like a legit massage place, but I see some characters hanging out around that area.[/QUOTE]It seems legit. Linsen will have a lot of shady people around it.

Any advice for Banqiao area? Just moved here and looking for an easy MP for some FS action.

[QUOTE=WillyTp;2907430]Any advice for Banqiao area? Just moved here and looking for an easy MP for some FS action.[/QUOTE]Haven't been there myself, however I would start on Google Maps and search for 養 生 會 館

Then look for some that are open till late (12 AM or later).

I spend a lot of time with my regular statuesque (Jaqueline) Taiwanese gal these days. A totally different experience than picking up a fresh flavor each night and being either very pleased, (actually, relieved) that she put out, or greatly disappointed with poor quality performance and attitude.

(Although, sometimes adventure enlivens your life, the thrill of the unknown. And, sometimes, stability and consistency provide a more enriching experience, if the pairing is compatible).

My plain "vanilla" variety Taiwanese girl knows what I want and need, and is always ready to pick up exactly where we left off. She puts out admirably. Tremendous work ethic.

Her basic ingredients are good. She possesses a certain level of refinement, well-groomed, well-dressed, tidy house, well-maintained physique, good manners, energetic, responsive, polite and playful. She is a consummate professional, and she seems like she gives into the experience and actually enjoys it, despite me being just another customer. The trust is there and we exchange pleasantries. And, it is a very powerful, energetic, heat and perspiration producing encounter that lingers on after leaving, for many hours, and sometimes for days.

As with a good quality vanilla ice cream as an analogy, her to.

A Haagen-Dazs, she has that consistent plain but rich flavor, unctuous creaminess and fresh delicious quality. And, with each session, I introduce a few new toppings to elaborate the sessions. Just like as you might add a few walnuts, pecans, chocolate sprinkles, a cookie, hot fudge, a cherry to your plain vanilla Haagen-Dazs, to make the already rich cream vanilla more extravagant. In the same manner, with this lovely girl, I introduce more and more positions, angles, rhythms to our basic repertoire. It is fun to play out a new chapter each time I see her. Oddly enough, "missionary" suits us both best. Says something about her character. Although she appears to be a free-spirited woman on the outside, she is just an old-fashioned girl who likes her man on top dishing it out while she absorbs and provides a great response and encouragement. I do like her.

(I usually see her on the street, and avoid phone contact, as I ran into problems previously with other girls pestering me constantly).

No reason to throw her aside and go back to the tedious searches and disappointments of the young "bubble gum brats," that seem to have conquered Wanhua.

Seems like almost all of the girls left the "cement park"across the street from the Longshan Temple and congregate now in the Xichang Market. Most probably at the behest of the police in order to dignify the main area which holds great religious, cultural history and significance. Seems like they moved the all-too-obvious ladies into the less religious and less touristy flea-market area of Xichang. So, for mongers, it is now one-stop shopping.

Of course, the minor areas still exist with a few ladies, like Huaxi, Kangding, Diamond Building and a few other enclaves.

After my main event with my beautiful plain vanilla girl with some nice added toppings, I went for a legit massage. I really needed a strong back-walking for an hour or more. I got what I needed with the back-walking, until she tired, and offered me an oil massage (means she's tired of working hard on the legit) which led to a hand job. I really didn't want it, but the old monger in me just could not resist. Mistake. She had no mercy. Wrapped her two fists around my Johnson and just flattened him. (I did ask her to ease- up. She did so only momentarily, and then proceeded to choke-out my manhood, much as one would take a stranglehold on a venomous snake and fervently choke-out every last drop of its venom to make sure it remained docile and impotent) No style, no grace, no charm, no sexiness, just a frantic attack. And, at completion, when I was dressing, she had the audacity to say, "I love you!

That is why I like to keep my legit massage strictly legit, in order to obtain the full therapeutic value. And, then enjoy my pleasure with my special girl. I find it not to my advantage to mix the two.

This time it was my fault for reversing the order. I should have "legitted" first, to be nice and limber and open to enjoy every nuance of my Taiwanese girl. But, I was afraid that she would leave the premises. She doesn't seem to like to work nights. Goes home, eats a leisurely dinner and gets well rested in order to preserve her beauty and get plenty of sleep. Good wholesome girl. And, a very interesting and intelligent lady she is. Very business-minded.

I still walk the area and window shop all the girls on Xichang. (I don't want to lose touch with the beat of the street) And, I am temped at times, and I do succumb, sometimes. But, most of the time, I end up in the arms of my "plain vanilla" girl.

Jaqueline Vanilla Taiwanese lady: $1500.

Massage lady: $1200 ($700 for 70 minutes plus $500 tip).

[QUOTE=MikeApple81;2906762]Do you think her BF watches who goes into the spa and sees her? If I see her often will her BF threaten me?

I have this image of my mind if I see her too often, her BF may attack me or threaten me. I'm a younger guy.

Thanks for your thoughts![/QUOTE]I'm the one who wrote the report you're replying to.

Which girl are you referring to? Please share your report. I'm curious about what you think of my report. Thanks.

On JK I see that there is a Thai massage shop that advertises that is close to Miramar at Jianan Road. However, they don't have an address on the ad, just a phone number, and as expected they don't understand English when you call them. Does any one here know about that shop and can DM me the address if it's a good place to go?

Hello guys, I have a couple questions if you guys could help me with. It's going to be my first time back in Taiwan since 07 or 08. I'll only be there for a few weeks and mostly visiting family. Well the monger in me wants to look for some fun while I'm there. I'll be staying with family while I'm there and we are close to Taipei 101. I was wondering if there was anything near by like massage or anything honestly. I see a lot of post about Xichang or Wanhua district but that seems a little far and might look sus with a 4 hour round trip by train. Unless there's a quicker way to get there and back without paying for an expensive taxi. I also found massage sites but they are all outcalls which means I would have to get a hotel room. Just wondering if you guys could give me any suggestions. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Shadowclan69;2908780]Hello guys, I have a couple questions if you guys could help me with. It's going to be my first time back in Taiwan since 07 or 08. I'll only be there for a few weeks and mostly visiting family. Well the monger in me wants to look for some fun while I'm there. I'll be staying with family while I'm there and we are close to Taipei 101. I was wondering if there was anything near by like massage or anything honestly. I see a lot of post about Xichang or Wanhua district but that seems a little far and might look sus with a 4 hour round trip by train. Unless there's a quicker way to get there and back without paying for an expensive taxi. I also found massage sites but they are all outcalls which means I would have to get a hotel room. Just wondering if you guys could give me any suggestions. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Check out AsiaFever's valuable post, #7328, only a few posts below this one. That will get you action wherever you might be. And, if you are at Taipei 101, Wanhua (Xichang Market) is pretty close. Probably less than 30 minutes by the easy access local MRT subway system, or bus or Taipei's very convenient YouBike system.

There is so much recent information in this thread. Just read a bit and scroll down. Put a little effort in and you will have a wealth of information. It won't take you very long to actually feel like you are a very well informed visitor. Once in the Longshan-Wanhua-Xichang-Huaxi-Kangding-Diamond Building District, just take a deep breath and take it all in.

I am sure all friends here will help with specific questions. There is a ton of information packed into this thread for the sake of posterity.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2908881]Check out AsiaFever's valuable post, #7328, only a few posts below this one. That will get you action wherever you might be. And, if you are at Taipei 101, Wanhua (Xichang Market) is pretty close. Probably less than 30 minutes by the easy access local MRT subway system, or bus or Taipei's very convenient YouBike system.

There is so much recent information in this thread. Just read a bit and scroll down. Put a little effort in and you will have a wealth of information. It won't take you very long to actually feel like you are a very well informed visitor. Once in the Longshan-Wanhua-Xichang-Huaxi-Kangding-Diamond Building District, just take a deep breath and take it all in.

I am sure all friends here will help with specific questions. There is a ton of information packed into this thread for the sake of posterity.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the advice and the stories, I will definitely read more of the older posts. I do have a couple more questions, has anyone tried the Twitter / X ladies? Are they legit or fake? Found a few Twitter pages like that with ads. Would like to try my luck with them.

Hi,

How would I meet such a girl?

I am new to TPE.

Fly safe.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2907755]I spend a lot of time with my regular statuesque (Jaqueline) Taiwanese gal these days. A totally different experience than picking up a fresh flavor each night and being either very pleased, (actually, relieved) that she put out, or greatly disappointed with poor quality performance and attitude.

(Although, sometimes adventure enlivens your life, the thrill of the unknown. And, sometimes, stability and consistency provide a more enriching experience, if the pairing is compatible).

My plain "vanilla" variety Taiwanese girl knows what I want and need, and is always ready to pick up exactly where we left off. She puts out admirably. Tremendous work ethic.

Her basic ingredients are good. She possesses a certain level of refinement, well-groomed, well-dressed, tidy house, well-maintained physique, good manners, energetic, responsive, polite and playful. She is a consummate professional, and she seems like she gives into the experience and actually enjoys it, despite me being just another customer. The trust is there and we exchange pleasantries. And, it is a very powerful, energetic, heat and perspiration producing encounter that lingers on after leaving, for many hours, and sometimes for days.

As with a good quality vanilla ice cream as an analogy, her to...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShadowClan69;2909234]Thank you for the advice and the stories, I will definitely read more of the older posts. I do have a couple more questions, has anyone tried the Twitter / X ladies? Are they legit or fake? Found a few Twitter pages like that with ads. Would like to try my luck with them.[/QUOTE]It's luck of the draw. Like JFK and other agents, there is a lot of bait and switch.

Anyone use this site? I contacted an ad on JKF, that led to Line, then a website. I've used the service and the photos are 75% accurate. Definitely the same girls but some filters applied. Had a tall slim girl that loves anal, and another spinner who's not even 5 foot tall with huge F or G cup. Service I usually get is 3300-3500 60 min 2's.

Contributing members can message to trade.

[QUOTE=FlyHigher767;2909328]Hi,

How would I meet such a girl?

I am new to TPE.

Fly safe.[/QUOTE]I was always finding her towards the middle of the Xichang Market. But, oddly enough, in this past week, I have not seen her.

Anyway, although I do have an addictive personality, I try my best, usually unsuccessfully, not to become addicted to one girl exclusively. The market really is overflowing with pretty girls. True, many are of the "bratty" variety, but that certainly does not account for all of them.

I do enjoy the stroll, seeing a girl, making eye contact, digest what her eyes speak to me, walk past her, allow that glimpse to mull around in my head, while making eye contact with other girls. And, then, going back to my finalists and trying to secure a deal.

That's just my own approach. Be patient and calm. Nobody is rushing you, nor obligating you. If you don't feel right about the night, leave. Or, go and relax with a snack or a cup of coffee, think it over, and go back to see the girls again, or leave and come back another night. Most of the time I find very suitable companionship. This walking-watching-waiting approach in a relaxed manner also develops your intuition in acquiring a woman who best suits your personality. Some experimentation is required. Relax, but allow some courage to arise, even if you have trepidation.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2909465]I do enjoy the stroll, seeing a girl, making eye contact, digest what her eyes speak to me, walk past her, allow that glimpse to mull around in my head, while making eye contact with other girls. And, then, going back to my finalists and trying to secure a deal.

That's just my own approach. Be patient and calm. Nobody is rushing you, nor obligating you. If you don't feel right about the night, leave. Or, go and relax with a snack or a cup of coffee, think it over, and go back to see the girls again, or leave and come back another night. Most of the time I find very suitable companionship. This walking-watching-waiting approach in a relaxed manner also develops your intuition in acquiring a woman who best suits your personality. Some experimentation is required. Relax, but allow some courage to arise, even if you have trepidation.[/QUOTE]Wise words. Chicken soup for the mongering soul.

There is never any shame in walking away if you don't find what you are looking for or it doesn't feel right. Sometimes the most satisfying feeling you can have on a given night is simply saying "no" to something that is not likely be a satisfying experience or a good value. And to evaluate that, we must be in tune with our own emotions and state of mind, in addition to the external variables. A successful hunt for pleasure on the streets requires the use of all of one's senses and judgment, as Amazake so poetically describes.

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2909367]Anyone use this site? I contacted an ad on JKF, that led to Line, then a website. I've used the service and the photos are 75% accurate. Definitely the same girls but some filters applied. Had a tall slim girl that loves anal, and another spinner who's not even 5 foot tall with huge F or G cup. Service I usually get is 3300-3500 60 min 2's.

Contributing members can message to trade.[/QUOTE]Cannot see the website brother, any tips about it so we can check it out? I cannot open images also.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2909553]Wise words. Chicken soup for the mongering soul.

There is never any shame in walking away if you don't find what you are looking for or it doesn't feel right. Sometimes the most satisfying feeling you can have on a given night is simply saying "no" to something that is not likely be a satisfying experience or a good value. And to evaluate that, we must be in tune with our own emotions and state of mind, in addition to the external variables. A successful hunt for pleasure on the streets requires the use of all of one's senses and judgment, as Amazake so poetically describes.[/QUOTE]Verily, I doth concur with thee, good sir!

Sometimes, when I turn down something that sort of has some sex appeal, yet I know all too well that it's going to end up disappointing to both my wallet and my satisfaction, I do my best to steer my wild desires away from her. The first step is painful. The second step, not much better. By the third step, I want to go back to her. But, if I make it halfway down the block, I am relieved. I feel exhilarated. I head on to bigger and better things.

I know that there is always tomorrow. There is no shortage of women desirous of your money. We deserve the very finest in exchange for our money, time and attention.

Thank you, KapnAmerica!

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2909367]Anyone use this site? I contacted an ad on JKF, that led to Line, then a website. I've used the service and the photos are 75% accurate. Definitely the same girls but some filters applied. Had a tall slim girl that loves anal, and another spinner who's not even 5 foot tall with huge F or G cup. Service I usually get is 3300-3500 60 min 2's.

Contributing members can message to trade.[/QUOTE]Heya Mate, you're not open to receiving messages. I've got a similar service though the price point is a little higher. They operate out various shitty hotel / motels around Ximen. They've got this one chick who'll do a 3 p now. I'm kind of interested.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2911141]Heya Mate, you're not open to receiving messages. I've got a similar service though the price point is a little higher. They operate out various shitty hotel / motels around Ximen. They've got this one chick who'll do a 3 p now. I'm kind of interested.[/QUOTE]Can you dm me the details about your service? Keen to see what they have on the menu.

[QUOTE=TheLastPanda69;2909367]Anyone use this site? I contacted an ad on JKF, that led to Line, then a website. I've used the service and the photos are 75% accurate. Definitely the same girls but some filters applied. Had a tall slim girl that loves anal, and another spinner who's not even 5 foot tall with huge F or G cup. Service I usually get is 3300-3500 60 min 2's.

Contributing members can message to trade.[/QUOTE]I use a similar service that has all the same girls. Basically there are a variety of websites that all advertise the same girls at similar price points. It's very hit or miss, and lately there's been a lot less quality and supply than before. Not sure why.

[QUOTE=Optional;2911736]I use a similar service that has all the same girls. Basically there are a variety of websites that all advertise the same girls at similar price points. It's very hit or miss, and lately there's been a lot less quality and supply than before. Not sure why.[/QUOTE]Does hotels allow guest in taipei for free? I have been to thailand where it depends on the hotel, generally we may need to ask before hand. I don't see any guest friendly hotel details in taipei.

I am looking to bring girls to my hotel room. This is my first trip to taipei truly not sure on where to start from.

Any suggestions appreciated, I will be in taipei for 4 days.

[QUOTE=BaliLuver;2911849]Does hotels allow guest in taipei for free? I have been to thailand where it depends on the hotel, generally we may need to ask before hand. I don't see any guest friendly hotel details in taipei.

I am looking to bring girls to my hotel room. This is my first trip to taipei truly not sure on where to start from.

Any suggestions appreciated, I will be in taipei for 4 days.[/QUOTE]Normally they don't really care here. I am assuming you are bringing the girl to your room for a short visit, instead of her overnighting?

A lot of the hotels you need the key card for the elevator, so just wait for her in the lobby or outside.

First, thank you Amakaze for all your extremely informative and amazingly written posts. I'll warn you right now my storytelling is not nearly as well written or entertaining. Maybe I should looking into an AI tool to jazz up my storytelling haha.

I am visiting from another country and have finally gotten somewhat adjusted to the time. Therefore, this was the perfect time to try and visit Wanhua and from there checkout options on Linsen road. I had about 6 k NT on me but wanted to get another 9 k NT to make sure I had sufficient cash on me for doing multiple visits per day. As mentioned in other posts, currency exchange only seems to happen at banks and being a Saturday, they were all closed. I should have exchanged currency earlier in the week (Unprepared). One of the few options available this Saturday afternoon was the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi Taipei currency exchange inside the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store. So off I headed. I arrive at the department store and find the currency exchange desk. First thing the lady tells me is I need the original passport and can't use the picture of my passport on my phone. FML (Unprepared). Going back to get my passport was out of the question because I'm staying in northern Taipei and takes me about 30-40 minutes by MRT. At least I had 6 k NT on me which would be plenty for Wanhua but I wasn't confident would be enough for Wanhua + Linsen road. Sadly, I had to nix visiting Linsen road this evening and hope I have time in the coming days.

Second order of business was to get some blue pills and condoms. I found a pharmacy near the department store and got the blue pills from the staff of female employees with a store full of people picking up their medications. To top it off, they wouldn't allow me to pay for the pills with card. Only cash. FAK, my limited on hand cash decreased by a little over 1 k. From there, I stop in a convenience store to get some Okimoto condoms. I picked up the condoms because I wasn't sure if I was to supply them or if the Wanhua girls would have them. An instance of me trying to be prepared but is actually me being UNPREPARED because I didn't research this earlier.

From the department store it would take me 30 minutes to walk to Longshan Temple. The skies were overcast but it wasn't raining, so I figured lets go for a brisk walk. Of course, 10 minutes into my walk it starts to drizzle. Fortunately, it never rained hard but it was enough to make everything wet and require staying under the covered sidewalks as much as possible. In the back of my head, I remember reading in a post here that rainy days results in way less talent on the street. I was too invested at this point and was going to make a memorable moment at Wanhua.

I finally arrived at Longshan Temple sweaty and slightly damp from the drizzle. Fortunately, the drizzle had stopped and it was now just hot and humid. At that moment, I realized I did not prepare enough for this visit because I didn't really know where to go (Unprepared). I vaguely remember reading about the parallel streets to Huaxi Night Market. So I head to the night market and start walking down the streets that parallel it. Nothing. I then remembered "Diamond Building" being mentioned. I Googled Diamond Building Wanhua. Nothing. I was getting frustrated at myself that I came so unprepared in every facet. I decided to stop, sit down and quickly read through this thread. I quickly discovered I was suppose to go to the Xichang Market.

I get to the Xichang market and start strolling down looking left and right for any signs of talent. I finally spot some, but they were older than I like. My gut was telling me that the selection was going to be minimal because of the weather and I started to feel down as I walked. I then spot some more talent and they were looking a little younger. At this point, I realized I was strolling down the middle of the market and not on the sidewalk where the talent was. I head toward the sidewalk and right there was a group of girls and one extremely cute, light skinned, petite Thai girl. She was dressed provocatively and her face was beautiful. We caught eyes and I smiled at her but just kept walking. Why did I keep walking, because I froze and didn't know what to do. I then came to my senses and decided to continue walking to see what other talent was around. I get to the end of the Xichang Market and then proceed over to Kangding Rd. Just a few massage shops is all I saw. But I was walking north bound on Kanding planning to swing back toward Xichang Market and head south bound on Xichang again. Maybe somebody can tell me where I was suppose to be walking on Kangding and where the Diamond building is. Would be greatly appreciated.

As I was circling back to Xichang market, I decided to take half of a blue pill. This was the first time for me so I didn't want to take a full dose not knowing what kind of side effects I would have. I make my way back to where that stunner was but she wasn't there. My heart sank. I then started talking to one of the girls standing there hoping she could tell me where her "friend" was. NOPE. We couldn't understand each other. I proceed to go to the other sidewalk on Xichang and head the opposite direction and lo and behold there she was. Right as I was getting close to her another dude stops to talk to her. Noooooo! (hands to face). Fortunately, there conversation was brief and he walks off. I go straight up to here and ask how much. "1500 NT". I say "Ok". She then crosses Xichange street with me in tow and everyone on the street looking at her and her slutty outfit and me (slacks and polo). I felt like all the eyes were on me with some of the tourist woman around giving me the dirty expression. Or maybe I imagined all that. Nonetheless, there is no way you can be discreet about what's going on. It's out for full public display in a crowded tourist street.

She takes me through a door into a building on Xichang and in the market. I enter and it's dark and dingy as I turn the corner inside, there is another girl walking around. They basically created little rooms with curtains and platform beds. There really is zero privacy because there is no wall from floor to ceiling. In addition, there was no sink, shower or toilet for me to use. She leaves to go clean up I think. I'm standing there not really knowing what to do. Was she going to come get me to go shower. Do I undress now or later. Do I leave my stuff here?. A million questions going through my mind. She comes back topless but covering her boobs with her arm and asks for the 1500 NT. I hand it over even though I knew I should wait until the end, but at this point I just wanted to get on with it. She asks me to undress and as I am undressing, I'm just admiring her petite and shapely little figure with her beautiful face and dark hair. I'm told often by the working girls that I'm an attractive Asian man and more often than not the girls and chemistry we have is positive vs negative. She cleans me up with wipes, slaps on a condom she provides and basically gives me a 5 second blow job because I was already hard as a rock from the moment she walked in topless. We go through the various positions (missionary, on top and doggy). Overall, worth it for a young pretty Thai girl.

I then start heading to the Longshan station and see the park nearby. I remember reading about the park and how there is talent walking around. I decide to walk through the park and pass tons of old dudes sitting around. I see a group of 4 Thai girls and one of them has the body type that just draws me in. The skinny legs, thigh gap, flat stomach (IE Alexis Lov). She looked like she had maybe be cups but the silhouette of them looked perky. I decided to sit on the railing and watch the girls from afar. I needed a break and time to recuperate. While I was sitting there, I couldn't help but notice the old men gawk, the younger single guys gawk, and the men with their women take peaks. Also noticed quite a few women look at them and then have that "she's a hooker look". Seeing all this kind of made me nervous to go approach because it was so out in the open with so many random people walking by. I mustered up the courage and asked how much. One of the girls quoted 1300 NT. I point at my skinny girl and say "OK". She looks shocked. Because she didn't think I would pick her. We do the walk of shame to her little apartment and hers was a world of difference from the first girl. This girl had AC, a bathroom and 4 actual walls. Still dingy, but 100 x better than the previous girls place.

The girls name is Kelly and she's 25 from Bangkok. We both start to undress and my eyes about pop out of my head when I see her rack. She's got fake ones, but they are perfectly proportioned for her tiny body. Be size. Perfectly round with perfect nipple placement. She showers me and the we go to the bed. We have good chemistry and she starts with a BBBJ. That lasted about 4 minutes. Not a lot, but better than the first girl. She then puts on a condom she provides. We kiss and DFK and then I insert my rod into her. Wow, she's tight. After missionary, I have her get on top and we go at it and she feels great. After we are done, she cleans me up in the shower again and actually had a little time left. She tells me she just arrived from Taichung. Apparently, police were arresting in Taichung. She said a lot of her friends got arrested but she was the only one that escaped because she wasn't inside when the police busted in. I also found out she is headed back to Bangkok soon. I will also be in Bangkok mid May so I get her Line. I asked where she works in Bangkok and she said The Pimp. Hopefully I will get her LT in Bangkok because I liked my experience with her.

It's late and I'm exhausted. Hope this is useful for others.

[QUOTE=ChiDog73;2913008]First, thank you Amakaze for all your extremely informative and amazingly written posts. I'll warn you right now my storytelling is not nearly as well written or entertaining. Maybe I should looking into an AI tool to jazz up my storytelling haha.

I am visiting from another country and have finally gotten somewhat adjusted to the time. Therefore, this was the perfect time to try and visit Wanhua and from there checkout options on Linsen road. I had about 6 k NT on me but wanted to get another 9 k NT to make sure I had sufficient cash on me for doing multiple visits per day. As mentioned in other posts, currency exchange only seems to happen at banks and being a Saturday, they were all closed. I should have exchanged currency earlier in the week (Unprepared). One of the few options available this Saturday afternoon was the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi Taipei currency exchange inside the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store. So off I headed. I arrive at the department store and find the currency exchange desk. First thing the lady tells me is I need the original passport and can't use the picture of my passport on my phone. FML (Unprepared). Going back to get my passport was out of the question because I'm staying in northern Taipei and takes me about 30-40 minutes by MRT. At least I had 6 k NT on me which would be plenty for Wanhua but I wasn't confident would be enough for Wanhua + Linsen road. Sadly, I had to nix visiting Linsen road this evening and hope I have time in the coming days.

Second order of business was to get some blue pills and condoms. I found a pharmacy near the department store and got the blue pills from the staff of female employees with a store full of people picking up their medications. To top it off, they wouldn't allow me to pay for the pills with card. Only cash. FAK, my limited on hand cash decreased by a little over 1 k. From there, I stop in a convenience store to get some Okimoto condoms. I picked up the condoms because I wasn't sure if I was to supply them or if the Wanhua girls would have them. An instance of me trying to be prepared but is actually me being UNPREPARED because I didn't research this earlier.

From the department store it would take me 30 minutes to walk to Longshan Temple. The skies were overcast but it wasn't raining, so I figured lets go for a brisk walk. Of course, 10 minutes into my walk it starts to drizzle. Fortunately, it never rained hard but it was enough to make everything wet and require staying under the covered sidewalks as much as possible. In the back of my head, I remember reading in a post here that rainy days results in way less talent on the street. I was too invested at this point and was going to make a memorable moment at Wanhua.

I finally arrived at Longshan Temple sweaty and slightly damp from the drizzle. Fortunately, the drizzle had stopped and it was now just hot and humid. At that moment, I realized I did not prepare enough for this visit because I didn't really know where to go (Unprepared). I vaguely remember reading about the parallel streets to Huaxi Night Market. So I head to the night market and start walking down the streets that parallel it. Nothing. I then remembered "Diamond Building" being mentioned. I Googled Diamond Building Wanhua. Nothing. I was getting frustrated at myself that I came so unprepared in every facet. I decided to stop, sit down and quickly read through this thread. I quickly discovered I was suppose to go to the Xichang Market.

I get to the Xichang market and start strolling down looking left and right for any signs of talent. I finally spot some, but they were older than I like. My gut was telling me that the selection was going to be minimal because of the weather and I started to feel down as I walked. I then spot some more talent and they were looking a little younger. At this point, I realized I was strolling down the middle of the market and not on the sidewalk where the talent was. I head toward the sidewalk and right there was a group of girls and one extremely cute, light skinned, petite Thai girl. She was dressed provocatively and her face was beautiful. We caught eyes and I smiled at her but just kept walking. Why did I keep walking, because I froze and didn't know what to do. I then came to my senses and decided to continue walking to see what other talent was around. I get to the end of the Xichang Market and then proceed over to Kangding Rd. Just a few massage shops is all I saw. But I was walking north bound on Kanding planning to swing back toward Xichang Market and head south bound on Xichang again. Maybe somebody can tell me where I was suppose to be walking on Kangding and where the Diamond building is. Would be greatly appreciated.

As I was circling back to Xichang market, I decided to take half of a blue pill. This was the first time for me so I didn't want to take a full dose not knowing what kind of side effects I would have. I make my way back to where that stunner was but she wasn't there. My heart sank. I then started talking to one of the girls standing there hoping she could tell me where her "friend" was. NOPE. We couldn't understand each other. I proceed to go to the other sidewalk on Xichang and head the opposite direction and lo and behold there she was. Right as I was getting close to her another dude stops to talk to her. Noooooo! (hands to face). Fortunately, there conversation was brief and he walks off. I go straight up to here and ask how much. "1500 NT". I say "Ok". She then crosses Xichange street with me in tow and everyone on the street looking at her and her slutty outfit and me (slacks and polo). I felt like all the eyes were on me with some of the tourist woman around giving me the dirty expression. Or maybe I imagined all that. Nonetheless, there is no way you can be discreet about what's going on. It's out for full public display in a crowded tourist street.

She takes me through a door into a building on Xichang and in the market. I enter and it's dark and dingy as I turn the corner inside, there is another girl walking around. They basically created little rooms with curtains and platform beds. There really is zero privacy because there is no wall from floor to ceiling. In addition, there was no sink, shower or toilet for me to use. She leaves to go clean up I think. I'm standing there not really knowing what to do. Was she going to come get me to go shower. Do I undress now or later. Do I leave my stuff here?. A million questions going through my mind. She comes back topless but covering her boobs with her arm and asks for the 1500 NT. I hand it over even though I knew I should wait until the end, but at this point I just wanted to get on with it. She asks me to undress and as I am undressing, I'm just admiring her petite and shapely little figure with her beautiful face and dark hair. I'm told often by the working girls that I'm an attractive Asian man and more often than not the girls and chemistry we have is positive vs negative. She cleans me up with wipes, slaps on a condom she provides and basically gives me a 5 second blow job because I was already hard as a rock from the moment she walked in topless. We go through the various positions (missionary, on top and doggy). Overall, worth it for a young pretty Thai girl.

I then start heading to the Longshan station and see the park nearby. I remember reading about the park and how there is talent walking around. I decide to walk through the park and pass tons of old dudes sitting around. I see a group of 4 Thai girls and one of them has the body type that just draws me in. The skinny legs, thigh gap, flat stomach (IE Alexis Lov). She looked like she had maybe be cups but the silhouette of them looked perky. I decided to sit on the railing and watch the girls from afar. I needed a break and time to recuperate. While I was sitting there, I couldn't help but notice the old men gawk, the younger single guys gawk, and the men with their women take peaks. Also noticed quite a few women look at them and then have that "she's a hooker look". Seeing all this kind of made me nervous to go approach because it was so out in the open with so many random people walking by. I mustered up the courage and asked how much. One of the girls quoted 1300 NT. I point at my skinny girl and say "OK". She looks shocked. Because she didn't think I would pick her. We do the walk of shame to her little apartment and hers was a world of difference from the first girl. This girl had AC, a bathroom and 4 actual walls. Still dingy, but 100 x better than the previous girls place.

The girls name is Kelly and she's 25 from Bangkok. We both start to undress and my eyes about pop out of my head when I see her rack. She's got fake ones, but they are perfectly proportioned for her tiny body. Be size. Perfectly round with perfect nipple placement. She showers me and the we go to the bed. We have good chemistry and she starts with a BBBJ. That lasted about 4 minutes. Not a lot, but better than the first girl. She then puts on a condom she provides. We kiss and DFK and then I insert my rod into her. Wow, she's tight. After missionary, I have her get on top and we go at it and she feels great. After we are done, she cleans me up in the shower again and actually had a little time left. She tells me she just arrived from Taichung. Apparently, police were arresting in Taichung. She said a lot of her friends got arrested but she was the only one that escaped because she wasn't inside when the police busted in. I also found out she is headed back to Bangkok soon. I will also be in Bangkok mid May so I get her Line. I asked where she works in Bangkok and she said The Pimp. Hopefully I will get her LT in Bangkok because I liked my experience with her.

It's late and I'm exhausted. Hope this is useful for others.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great review. And, I mean "great" because you gave us your entire journey that we can all relate to.

Lots of pretty Thais recently. They come for only a couple of weeks.

On the short Xichang Market street, walk to the extreme right and extreme left close to the storefronts and you will meet scattered pockets of girls. The middle of the market is a flea market for every item under the sun.

To find the Diamond Building on Kangding, walk through the alley by the Milwaukee sign overhead on Kangding, close to the intersection with Guilin and turn left. Some girls are there, also.

Your worry of public opinion and self-consciousness will leave you when you realize that nobody really cares about what you are doing there. Obviously, for many decades, men go there for a comfort woman. Huaxi's tearooms remain, because to tear it down is to destroy an enduring cultural pleasurable social haven.

Everybody in the surrounding area of The Longshan Temple are there for a reason and everybody has their own agenda. A few take notice of an instantaneous coupling out of curiosity. I gawk, also. It is so interesting to see what the guy chose. Says something about his personality, the woman he chose.

It's not really a shameful walk with your girl. Enjoy the pleasant stroll with a beautiful lady. It is business as usual for the locals. The prostitutes enliven the whole area. It is a wonderful cross-section of life itself, centered around the temple for protection and worship, fervent devout prayers and pilgrimages to this holy sanctuary. And, spawned from that prayer and spiritual worship are the satisfaction of the basic needs of human life, I. E. Food, sex, entertainment, body grooming, healing massage and herbal remedies. The area has it all.

A beautiful girl for a happy union and friendship is an intricate part and necessity of most men in human life, unless you are a monk. Unburden yourself with the stigma attached by society.

Again, thank you for your narration of your entire journey. Your writing reeked with the complete truth of every step of your journey and your mental / emotional climate along the way. You went into it with an open mind and open heart. You remained open and learned and reacted spontaneously and you have a great successful mission, and even made a beautiful Thai friend for visit in her home country.

Nice work, and thank you for your valuable report.

Godspeed!

[QUOTE=ChiDog73;2913008]First, thank you Amakaze for all your extremely informative and amazingly written posts. I'll warn you right now my storytelling is not nearly as well written or entertaining. Maybe I should looking into an AI tool to jazz up my storytelling haha.

I am visiting from another country and have finally gotten somewhat adjusted to the time. Therefore, this was the perfect time to try and visit Wanhua and from there checkout options on Linsen road. I had about 6 k NT on me but wanted to get another 9 k NT to make sure I had sufficient cash on me for doing multiple visits per day. As mentioned in other posts, currency exchange only seems to happen at banks and being a Saturday, they were all closed. I should have exchanged currency earlier in the week (Unprepared). One of the few options available this Saturday afternoon was the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi Taipei currency exchange inside the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store. So off I headed. I arrive at the department store and find the currency exchange desk. First thing the lady tells me is I need the original passport and can't use the picture of my passport on my phone. FML (Unprepared). Going back to get my passport was out of the question because I'm staying in northern Taipei and takes me about 30-40 minutes by MRT. At least I had 6 k NT on me which would be plenty for Wanhua but I wasn't confident would be enough for Wanhua + Linsen road. Sadly, I had to nix visiting Linsen road this evening and hope I have time in the coming days.

Second order of business was to get some blue pills and condoms. I found a pharmacy near the department store and got the blue pills from the staff of female employees with a store full of people picking up their medications. To top it off, they wouldn't allow me to pay for the pills with card. Only cash. FAK, my limited on hand cash decreased by a little over 1 k. From there, I stop in a convenience store to get some Okimoto condoms. I picked up the condoms because I wasn't sure if I was to supply them or if the Wanhua girls would have them. An instance of me trying to be prepared but is actually me being UNPREPARED because I didn't research this earlier.[/QUOTE]What is that blue pill. Viagra?

Is it available without prescription in taipei.

Did you tried bringing girls to your hotel? Any good hotel recommendation for 3-4 days stay?

I may be soon travelling to taipei. I could see only lot of thais and pinos in taipei from internet ads for short term sexual activities.

Also read about news articles on police raids, I have 0 chinese language knowledge. Not sure whether I could manage with english in normal areas!

Unfortunately, I lost my last report. Somehow, it just evaporated.

Anyhow, I have been in Wanhua quite a bit, recently. I haven't been able to find Cinderella.

(a / k / a Jaqueline) lately, so I had to move on. (But, we're not done with each other quite yet. Still have a very strong hankering for her).

Well, I had to roll the dice again with the notorious "Thai Bubblegum Brats. " A young twenties Thai was willing to take me on.

As fate would have it, expecting the worst, I got something unbelievably shockingly spectacular.

Some others refused me. She gladly accepted me.

The girl has moxie and confidence. Unbelievably Straightforward personality.

Her name sounds like Lindy, early 20's, impeccable light, fair complexion with a sturdy strong and energetic physique. The girl has a very witty and dry humor. We joke a lot before and after the loveplay. Never during. Serious, sincere copulation is no laughing matter. I am into my second session with her. She is a very passionate young girl, behind her somewhat hardened protective exterior. The girl is blessed with a very high IQ. Yeah, she is smart. She lets her guard down if she is comfortable and unthreatened. But, I have seen her protective force field rise up instantly when in doubt. Indeed, she is nobody's fool.

However, before realizing that she is a highly witted and intelligent young lady, one must first have the capacity to persevere past the visual splendor of her absolutely splendid, utterly delicious, highly gelatinous and perfectly sculpted, rounded and abundant derrière. ("ass," if you will).

My boys, in all my many years, I have been denied the privilege of viewing and interacting with such a wonderment of our natural world, such as the spectacle I have been blessed with on these two fine occasions.

It has beauty so stunning, that the Roman sex goddess of beauty, Venus, would envy her and feel threatened to be usurped by this mere mortal young Thai's extraordinary lower physique.

I do declare that a romantic poet could compose in excess of twenty to thirty stanzas expressing the glories of her ass and then another classic writer could write a treatise on it, pontificating and further elaborating on its sheer beauty.

And, she knows I fell victim to its glowing moonlight appearance. So, before the session she slow strips before pressing the stopwatch and slow writhes, sleeklike, imitating the sensuous flowing hypnotizing movements of a snake, that allows it to entice its prey. (I have been enticed and I am her prey).

And when I reach out to grasp her trailing caboose, she laughs devilishly, runs away, and tells me I can't have it. (fun perceptive girl) She told me if I marry her, I could own her beautiful ass. (I aint kidding; we get along pretty well) And, I did pause to consider her proposition, albeit briefly.

Strong in bed, light, maneuverable, yet holds her ground really well. Knows how to dig in and take a pounding. She loves little love whispers between us. Really can't get enough of her. Quite enchanting. Let's me know immediately what she likes and doesn't like. (but she likes almost everything) I am her sex slave. I am there to serve her. But, there are times when we just meld together oh so blissfully.

She is plenty cute, yet her smile hides under a tougher exterior for protection. She could very easily be overlooked on the street. I almost passed her by. I had to reconsider. It was only after being turned down by her more petite little bubblegum brat younger sister, that I reconsidered approaching her. God works in mysterious ways. A real diamond in the rough.

Once you crack her guarded exterior, she is playful, with a lot of dry humor.

The lovemaking is serious and intense. Perfect transition from cowgirl to doggie (once again almost blinded staring at her gorgeous derrière) and many variations of doggie. She loves it. And, finally into missionary, past the buzzer first and second warning.

Our first session was more relaxed because the room was far away from the mamasan and sisterhood gathering, talking shop, and eating in the kitchen. The second session, she had to be wary of the gathering just outside the door and be more conscious of time. It infringes upon Thai Union Rules to be too close to a customer and afford him more time than allotted.

Upon leaving our honeymoon suite, she was met by the choir of her friends laughing at her and imitating her orgasms from our session. Upon leaving, I grabbed her by the door and gave her a very sincere hug and love peck and the mamasan and girls blurted out a surprising, "whoa!

And, I forgot to mention, at the end of our lovemaking session, she arose from the bed and performed her naked ass snake dance accentuating her magnificent rump, very reminiscent of the dance performed by Salome for King Herod, before asking for the dicapitated head of John the Baptist on a silver platter. (for you Bible enthusiasts) No doubt, my eventual fate.

After applauding her talent and admiring once again her gorgeous physique, I told her to cease to avoid provoking my wet dreams.

Alas, she is leaving tomorrow. But, she told me there is still time if I want to marry her tonight. She said "right now! The girl could sell ice in the winter. She apparently doesn't mind the massive age difference. She actually sounds serious. She was. A logistical nightmare! And, she wants children. "Oy Vey!

I will miss her a lot, though. She really brightened and spiced up my dreary life. A lot of bucket list material has been satisfied. She is a young vivacious girl. She certainly has an effervescent vibrant energy that mingles with my blandness. It is like getting a shot of adrenaline. However, having her around is a real addiction. Sometimes that is not so good. Not a Bubblegum Brat. Far more mature personality.

In Requiem, and I realize I am being inordinately redundant, even for me, she is a beautiful, feisty, intelligent, young, Thai kitten, with a tough exterior, and a heart of "Gold. " I Sincerely pray she couples with a nice man and lives a satisfying, comfortable life.

Okay, moving right along.

Anyway, upon leaving her, my older gal from Mainland China spotted me coming from Thai-Town in the XiChang Market. She disciplined me for neglecting her, telling me she has seen me there before, berating me for having no heart for her. Told me I owe her a session. I agreed. I followed her to the small temple in the Xichang Market to visit the gods and to bless her offering of fruit. She smiled with delight when I prayed at her favorite temple with her, to her favorite god. This woman has a very spiritually sensitive devout heart that uplifts her in good times and bad times.

She is well into her 40's but we have been friends for a long time. She charges me only 1 k for over 30 minutes. I make it up to her with a small tip and other small gifts.

Her sex is very unusual. Whatever position we decide, we just remain there, heavily embraced and slow continuous charges. She absorbs the charges which fuels her vicelike heart-to- heart hold on me, which can only be compared to one clinging to a life raft in the middle of the ocean.

We have a long history together. I used to spend 2 or 3 hour sessions with her, followed by going out to dinner together. She was younger then and more spry. But, I still have the capacity to say nice things to her, and her face lights up, and momentarily the age vanishes. Amazingly powerful, yet very lonely woman. She likes having me around. Begged me to stay longer at a further discount, but I had an appointment in another area. (I am convinced she would take a bullet for me. A special kind of person. She cooks a lot of vegetables. They are all over her kitchen. Like an Earth Mother.

Her session, compared to my young Thai. Is so drastically different. Like polar opposites. The elder is very grounding, ultimately more satisfying, calming to the emotions and nervous system. The young Thai is so vivacious, a bubbling happy energy, akin to riding one of these common Yamaha 125 CC scooters at full throttle. As compared to the elder Mainlander, like driving a utility van.

Being with one after the other, the stark difference and comparison is so clearly apparent to me. The next day, the energy of the young girl is far more present in my system than that of the older lady.

A few days later I visited the young Thai again, on the eve of her leaving. Found her to be just as gorgeous.

I was fortunate enough to watch her have a powerful orgasm. Meant a lot to me to be in the presence of that, and to be able to strike the right chords on her. She blew hard, and predicted its rising force long before it occurred. It came up nice and slow before erupting.

On this third visit, our repertoire was ironed out and we worked very efficiently. My sex talk got a bit more direct, freely spoken, a bit more lascivious, to the point. Well, after three sessions, and having the third and final bon voyage sex, we needed to throw it into overdrive. For the first time she gave me light lip kisses. Divine.

I am satisfied with a three-peat, and the ability to set out in earnest, hunting down Cinderella. (Jaqueline).

Unfortunately, I must leave this paradise, Formosa, soon. So, my activities with the ladies are more fervent, a sort of last gasp effort to sample each just one more time, tie up loose ends. It is with a heavy heart that I must leave.

But, I do have ties here. So, my intention to return is inevitable.

I will leave the thread in the more-than-capable hands of my spiritual brothers and mongers from all nations.

But, in my time remaining here, I will use it to my full advantage with respect to seeing the ladies, and leaving on good terms until I return.

You can expect a few more reviews. But, in reality, it is best to retreat to my own country where the easy affordability and access is far less prevalent.

No regrets. I lived life here to the hilt.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2913963]Unfortunately, I must leave this paradise, Formosa, soon. So, my activities with the ladies are more fervent, a sort of last gasp effort to sample each just one more time, tie up loose ends. It is with a heavy heart that I must leave.

But, I do have ties here. So, my intention to return is inevitable.

I will leave the thread in the more-than-capable hands of my spiritual brothers and mongers from all nations.

But, in my time remaining here, I will use it to my full advantage with respect to seeing the ladies, and leaving on good terms until I return.

You can expect a few more reviews. But, in reality, it is best to retreat to my own country where the easy affordability and access is far less prevalent.

No regrets. I lived life here to the hilt.[/QUOTE]When are you leaving? And are you able to tell us which country you are going to?

[QUOTE=Amazake;2913963]Unfortunately, I lost my last report. Somehow, it just evaporated.

You can expect a few more reviews. But, in reality, it is best to retreat to my own country where the easy affordability and access is far less prevalent.

No regrets. I lived life here to the hilt.[/QUOTE]Why do you say it is best to retreat to your own country?

Oh no I will miss your great detailed reports!

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2913996]When are you leaving? And are you able to tell us which country you are going to?[/QUOTE]Leaving soon, in a matter of a few weeks;.

Looking for a good flight. Going back to the land of "amber waves of grain! I am a "yank. ".

[QUOTE=ChiDog73;2913008]I am visiting from another country and have finally gotten somewhat adjusted to the time. Therefore, this was the perfect time to try and visit Wanhua and from there checkout options on Linsen road. I had about 6 k NT on me but wanted to get another 9 k NT to make sure I had sufficient cash on me for doing multiple visits per day. As mentioned in other posts, currency exchange only seems to happen at banks and being a Saturday, they were all closed. I should have exchanged currency earlier in the week (Unprepared). One of the few options available this Saturday afternoon was the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi Taipei currency exchange inside the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store. So off I headed. I arrive at the department store and find the currency exchange desk. First thing the lady tells me is I need the original passport and can't use the picture of my passport on my phone. FML (Unprepared). Going back to get my passport was out of the question because I'm staying in northern Taipei and takes me about 30-40 minutes by MRT. At least I had 6 k NT on me which would be plenty for Wanhua but I wasn't confident would be enough for Wanhua + Linsen road. Sadly, I had to nix visiting Linsen road this evening and hope I have time in the coming days.

Second order of business was to get some blue pills and condoms. I found a pharmacy near the department store and got the blue pills from the staff of female employees with a store full of people picking up their medications...[/QUOTE]Those of you that need cash, you can go to any 7/11 and they have an ATM to withdraw cash.

I use my American Express Card and can withdraw 20,000 NT or maybe more. American Express does charge 5% fee, but it's not too bad considering you don't have to go to a bank.

[QUOTE=TaipeiLover;2914072]Why do you say it is best to retreat to your own country?

Oh no I will miss your great detailed reports![/QUOTE]It's like when you must face the inevitable, and, it's not what you really want to do, but you know there is no other alternative, and you struggle to find something meaningful and good about your fate, you come up with a slogan, although you say it half-heartedly, something meaning like if it is happening, I have to accept it, it must be part of the divine plan, for some reason, and you try and appease what you really don't want to do, and you mutter some nonsense, like "it is best this way," though you don't really mean it, just something to motivate you to finally get your ass in the seat on the plane.

But, thank you for reading my long-winded posts. And, alone in my log cabin in the solitary mountains of North America (not really, and not true at all, but feels that way) sitting Buddha-like, contemplating spirituality, without any of the scintillating enjoyment of the gorgeous plethora of female companionship Taiwan offers, I will partake in deep satisfying solace knowing that you fine gentleman are enjoying all the beautiful Asian flowers, and I will drop in to read from time to time, your explicit, inspiring, informative reviews, that will keep me well-educated, and well-equipped for when I return to this beautiful Formosan paradise island.

But, I am not gone yet. I have a little time to cram in a few more visits. Stay well, safe and healthy. Treat the ladies right so they treat you right. "As ye sow, so shall ye reap. ".

[QUOTE=TaipeiLover;2914410]I was walking down the street on Zhongxiao East Rd and saw a few unbelievable looking girls walk into this mall. I followed them and saw them wait for the main elevator.

Then I noticed some other beautiful girls walk in and also wait for this elevator. These girls were not dressed like "normal" girls. They were wearing mini gowns and obviously had work done.

Then I noticed another elevator come down and a saw some drunk guys come down with similar looking girls.

I thought this can't be a coincidence.

I used google map and noticed there are KTV call Focus KTV. It's located at Ton-ling Plaza.

Has anyone tried this place?[/QUOTE]The Omni building? Yes, that building has the night club, the World Gym, a couple of floors of adult entertainment in it. You need to know an agent to get in on the list, you will see some guys sitting outside at the tables where you sign in. Those are really high class KTV, you can end up spending 10-50 K per person there for the night. However, for those prices you normally get a 9 or a 10 girl, and any party favours you may need.

That street (about 2-3 blocks in either way) is just littered with very upscale adult KTVs.

Very unlikely to be mugged, Taipei is very safe. If this is first time don't mess around with line IDs unless someone introduced to you, likely to be a lot of bait and switch and you won't necessarily have the best time. Either try Caesar (average but probably consistent) or find someone on massage republic with a verified photo (tick) and a few reviews. Or for quick but where you see who you are meeting, follow some reviews on here in the Xichang market area. These are less likely to go wrong, although nothing is guaranteed. Bonne chance!

[QUOTE=Taipeionlooker;2914761]Hello everyone,

The title is pretty self explaining. To sum it all up, I'm alone in Taipei and this is my first time with. Well all of that.

I'd like to know if I'm not going to be mugged in an alley of something because it's not legit or something else.

I'm 24, white male from France, 1 meter80 cm with an average body type.

Being the nervous newbie, I read first the page from a website about Taipei, and looked in the section about escorts.

On the page: [URL]https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Taipei/Love_hotels/outcall_Taiwan_girl_massage_%26_happy_ending-LINE/wechat:fox8g8[/URL]

I found this couple of pictures with a line ID. Seemed as legit as can be for escorts in a country forbidding prostitution and I trusted the website it's listed on.

Afterward I added the line ID and she answered pretty fast with a message in Chinese.

I answered in English vaguely describing myself (age, general area, where I found the ad).

She then said prices for Taipei is currently 4000-12000.

I answered 8000-9000 and then I received a long list of pictures of the girls.

I choose one and asked if it's possible to meet tomorrow 22:00. She said girl is free and ok tomorrow for 8000.

I told them my hotel, and they told me to tell them when I check as well as my room number. We then said our goodbyes and here I am.

I sincerely thank you for your insights in advance.

I can add screenshot if needed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Taipeionlooker;2914761]Hello everyone,

The title is pretty self explaining. To sum it all up, I'm alone in Taipei and this is my first time with. Well all of that.

I'd like to know if I'm not going to be mugged in an alley of something because it's not legit or something else.

I'm 24, white male from France, 1 meter80 cm with an average body type.

Being the nervous newbie, I read first the page from a website about Taipei, and looked in the section about escorts.

On the page: [URL]https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Taipei/Love_hotels/outcall_Taiwan_girl_massage_%26_happy_ending-LINE/wechat:fox8g8[/URL]

I found this couple of pictures with a line ID. Seemed as legit as can be for escorts in a country forbidding prostitution and I trusted the website it's listed on.

Afterward I added the line ID and she answered pretty fast with a message in Chinese.

I answered in English vaguely describing myself (age, general area, where I found the ad).

She then said prices for Taipei is currently 4000-12000.

I answered 8000-9000 and then I received a long list of pictures of the girls.

I choose one and asked if it's possible to meet tomorrow 22:00. She said girl is free and ok tomorrow for 8000.

I told them my hotel, and they told me to tell them when I check as well as my room number. We then said our goodbyes and here I am.

I sincerely thank you for your insights in advance.

I can add screenshot if needed.[/QUOTE]If you are serious about this, WeChat is not the place to start. JKF is better for local talent.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2914915]If you are serious about this, WeChat is not the place to start. JKF is better for local talent.[/QUOTE]Well so far she asked my name, room number and what I wear so that she can send the girl when she calls the phone.

I meet her in an hour, now either something happens or I win a criminal record.

Fingers crossed.

[QUOTE=Taipeionlooker;2914761]

I choose one and asked if it's possible to meet tomorrow 22:00. She said girl is free and ok tomorrow for 8000.

I told them my hotel, and they told me to tell them when I check as well as my room number. We then said our goodbyes and here I am.
..[/QUOTE]I usually will tell the agent that I will reject the girl if she is not the same as the picture. They may have a car outside with more girls that they can deliver to you. Quickly. I have reported this before.

Well I'm not dead or in jail.

To update on my situation it was very awkward because we had no common language.

I met her in the lobby and she "kinda" looked like the picture but good enough for me. She looked like a sack of bones tho, I was so afraid to break her in half. Kinda did considering she had trouble getting my umbrella in her lobby iykwim.

We both took showers and did the deed. Great tongue job, but hardly any "warm" reaction. Kinda killed the mood for me. Sure that's to be expected for someone in this line of work but I'll be sure to say my preferences if I ever get the feeling again. But I think I'm more inclined to try the massage parlor to get the massage.

40 mn of awkward sex and we then went on our merry way.

At least I'm free to think about something else and move on.

SHORT WANHUA REPORT FOLLOWED BY OPEN-ENDED DISCUSSION:

I found Cinderella in the Xichang Market. Haven't seen her in almost a month. What can I say, boys, you know, "REUNION SEX!

Like two pigs in heat.

The young Thai girl's (the one that left Taiwan) energy still trapped inside of me, burst out into Cinderella. She had to hold on for dear life. Like a savage untamed yeti pouncing unsuspectedly on a young captured maiden.

Mid thirties is she, holding the reins of her full feminine potential. A powerful age, far more meaningful and appreciative than my runaway 20's Thai who was a mini fling.

New topic:

Apparently there is a whole lot more going on here on this pleasant little island than is disseminated. Information is impossible to come by, except by word of mouth. Every little crack exposing coveted secrets seems to be neatly caulked and almost nothing gets online. A bit frustrating.

So, what my cryptic preamble is insinuating for our purposes, is that there surely are many smaller "red light districts" that are just not commonly known. I stumbled onto one while riding my bike around Zhongxiao Fuxing. There were only a few ladies.

I approached one with my limited Chinese. She was tall, young, thin, and quite shapely. I made up my mind to immediately go with her if she would have me. But, as I suspected, it being too good to be true, she hesitated. Undoubtedly fearful of a foreigner. Oddly, it was in a wide open area. I wouldn't have approached her if she didn't appear to have all the characteristics of a bonafide working girl. I was confident enough and did my due diligence of heavy surveillance for a long time so as not to embarrass myself and insult a civilian. Maybe even get myself smacked in the face.

After she showed reticence and hesitancy to budge, I considered it hopeless. But, I must say, she also did not look spooked by my advances. It is not a tourist area, nor a known strip, so I doubt she runs into foreigners regularly. I bowed respectfully, smiled with good grace and manners, walked away and went to Wanhua where "they" (the powers that be) prefer my type to gather in one place under close supervision, observation and surveillance.

Wish I could get ahold of the "Locals' True Mongers' Maps. " If only I had a drinking buddy who is a sergeant in the vice squad in the Taipei Main Police Bureau. No such luck. I don't even drink. But, I could start drinking again if it led to relevant information like opening their files to me.

I have come to realize if I stumbled upon a streetwalkers' block unwittingly, quite by accident, there must easily be dozens that the locals enjoy all for themselves all over this fine city. Taiwan runs a very tight ship.

I came to Taiwan back in the mid to latter 80's and there was sex on every corner, a monger's paradise in full blatant display, almost everywhere.

The authorities scrubbed most of this island pretty clean to make it what it is today in the world, a real gem, with its vices well hidden.

Don't get me wrong, I know that in the name of progress it had to be done, like most other countries, and I am grateful that they gave us a few well-known red lights. I am grateful, most certainly.

But, if any of you boys in the know feel not put out and generous enough, and don't feel that it would upset the balance of the universe, or at least Taiwan, I am a bit more than mildly interested, if you catch my drift, to know any nice private local enclaves where ladies dress well and walk leisurely looking for fine gentlemen to exchange friendships.

I really shouldn't be so greedy. I do have far more than I can both handle and afford. But, curiosity gets the best of me sometimes. And, we all know what curiosity did to that poor cat!

[QUOTE=Amazake;2915049]So, what my cryptic preamble is insinuating for our purposes, is that there surely are many smaller "red light districts" that are just not commonly known. I stumbled onto one while riding my bike around Zhongxiao Fuxing. There were only a few ladies.
![/QUOTE]As someone else mentioned the Omni building (closing to Zhongxiao Dunhau), like I replied to them as well that area is very well known for upper class KTV. These are the model type girls, normally 9-10 rating, that you would see usually perform in said mentioned club as one of their famous bottle service girl dancers. There are little areas everywhere here.

Any indication as to what road / area you were in with this encounter? You can DM if you don't want to post public.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2915050]As someone else mentioned the Omni building (closing to Zhongxiao Dunhau), like I replied to them as well that area is very well known for upper class KTV. These are the model type girls, normally 9-10 rating, that you would see usually perform in said mentioned club as one of their famous bottle service girl dancers. There are little areas everywhere here.

Any indication as to what road / area you were in with this encounter? You can DM if you don't want to post public.[/QUOTE]I saw three girls, maybe four (they vanished quickly) very close to the MRT station. One was a tall standout. The others were not so appealing to me. Definitely not runway quality by any stretch of the imagination.

The one I liked, when I got up close, had a very charming little face.

As you might expect, shocked to see them, I was gawking shamelessly and obviously, like a sailor out at sea for months, wondering if the land mass he is seeing is but a mirage. I was on my way to Wanhua, and would have loved nothing more than to enjoy a new venue.

I gawked and gawked, and then started in pursuit. The tall elegant girl obviously realized this idiot, anything but cool, "waiguoren" on his bike is narrowing in on her. I biked passed her a few times. And, with my keen ingenuity, I searched for a bike port to return the Ubike, and set out pursuing the damsel on foot. She realized this jerk is stalking her, and she vanished into a storefront for a while, thinking she could shake me off. She had another thing coming and a lesson to learn about a hardened monger. I bided my time until she re-emerged. She realized I was relentless in my pursuit of her (a young tall beauty you don't see everyday. You must strike while the iron is hot) and aborted her escape, surrendering, realizing that communication between us was imminent.

My Chinese is poor. But, it would have been good enough to close the deal. I asked her price, and she ignored the question. Realizing I am destined for Wanhua, anyway, and this spot could be a possible destination before I leave the island, I was as gentlemanly and polite as a monger could muster and bid her good day.

Since you are saying that she is probably a spillover from a ritzy club, she is surely in a higher price spectrum than I am willing to pay, given my extreme frequency these days in my last hurrah.

Thank you, AsiaFever. I value your thoughts, experience, and knowledge.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2915049]
I have come to realize if I stumbled upon a streetwalkers' block unwittingly, quite by accident, there must easily be dozens that the locals enjoy all for themselves all over this fine city. Taiwan runs a very tight ship.

I came to Taiwan back in the mid to latter 80's and there was sex on every corner, a monger's paradise in full blatant display, almost everywhere.

The authorities scrubbed most of this island pretty clean to make it what it is today in the world, a real gem, with its vices well hidden.

Don't get me wrong, I know that in the name of progress it had to be done, like most other countries, and I am grateful that they gave us a few well-known red lights. I am grateful, most certainly.

But, if any of you boys in the know feel not put out and generous enough, and don't feel that it would upset the balance of the universe, or at least Taiwan, I am a bit more than mildly interested, if you catch my drift, to know any nice private local enclaves where ladies dress well and walk leisurely looking for fine gentlemen to exchange friendships.

I really shouldn't be so greedy. I do have far more than I can both handle and afford. But, curiosity gets the best of me sometimes. And, we all know what curiosity did to that poor cat![/QUOTE]I'm not a local but lived in Taipei a few years. And have traveled there many more times. I've enjoyed your reports and I never did street action in Taipei. The only action I had with locals was the higher end KTVs that were invite only with the security by the lift. You had to have the mama san number and call in advance. The girls were gorgeous, they would do the normal sit and drink and sing and then every 20 min or so the lights dim and they do a strip and lap dance routine where they rotate around the room. Some venues included BJ or HJ in the price as well. All these places I could have never found on my own but through local work colleagues or customer entertainment business meetings I did experience them.

What I did find though was picking up civilian girls was very very easy. I had a couple of regular FWB's that kept me busy to that I never had to really hunt on the streets. Maybe your personal situation doesn't allow that but if it did, Taipei was a fabulous place to fuck the civillians and have a great time. You will miss Taipei, I know I do, even though I am still happily in Asia.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2915138]I'm not a local but lived in Taipei a few years. And have traveled there many more times. I've enjoyed your reports and I never did street action in Taipei. The only action I had with locals was the higher end KTVs that were invite only with the security by the lift. You had to have the mama san number and call in advance. The girls were gorgeous, they would do the normal sit and drink and sing and then every 20 min or so the lights dim and they do a strip and lap dance routine where they rotate around the room. Some venues included BJ or HJ in the price as well. All these places I could have never found on my own but through local work colleagues or customer entertainment business meetings I did experience them.

What I did find though was picking up civilian girls was very very easy. I had a couple of regular FWB's that kept me busy to that I never had to really hunt on the streets. Maybe your personal situation doesn't allow that but if it did, Taipei was a fabulous place to fuck the civillians and have a great time. You will miss Taipei, I know I do, even though I am still happily in Asia.[/QUOTE]I have expat friend have been living there for a few years (2-3) now. He also says the same thing. I haven't tried hunting. Seems okay if you have time and its okay to go home empty handed but for someone just vacationing for a week or two, I just want to have a sure thing. Like you at Expat American, I've only been to high end KTV places and some Line booking apartment in-calls. Those are getting way too expensive so many of my mongering wingmen goes to Thailand / Vietnam instead. I'm actually heading back to Taiwan at the end of the month. Never really knew about the street scene. Based on the reports here, will definitely walk around the area and see. Will be a new and interesting experience.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2915207]I have expat friend have been living there for a few years (2-3) now. He also says the same thing. I haven't tried hunting. Seems okay if you have time and its okay to go home empty handed but for someone just vacationing for a week or two, I just want to have a sure thing. Like you at Expat American, I've only been to high end KTV places and some Line booking apartment in-calls. Those are getting way too expensive so many of my mongering wingmen goes to Thailand / Vietnam instead. I'm actually heading back to Taiwan at the end of the month. Never really knew about the street scene. Based on the reports here, will definitely walk around the area and see. Will be a new and interesting experience.[/QUOTE]Yeah, for short visits it is worth it to just make sure you get a sure thing. Mileage varies on what you want to spend, and what sort of look the girl needs to have.

But there are many, many options to pick from here in all shapes, sizes and prices.
Just not as cheap as Vietname or Thailand.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2915138]I'm not a local but lived in Taipei a few years. And have traveled there many more times. I've enjoyed your reports and I never did street action in Taipei. The only action I had with locals was the higher end KTVs that were invite only with the security by the lift. You had to have the mama san number and call in advance. The girls were gorgeous, they would do the normal sit and drink and sing and then every 20 min or so the lights dim and they do a strip and lap dance routine where they rotate around the room. Some venues included BJ or HJ in the price as well. All these places I could have never found on my own but through local work colleagues or customer entertainment business meetings I did experience them.

What I did find though was picking up civilian girls was very very easy. I had a couple of regular FWB's that kept me busy to that I never had to really hunt on the streets. Maybe your personal situation doesn't allow that but if it did, Taipei was a fabulous place to fuck the civillians and have a great time. You will miss Taipei, I know I do, even though I am still happily in Asia.[/QUOTE]Most appreciated. Sounds like your level of sophistication and quality are leaps and bounds above my small game. I enjoy hearing about that level. The ambiance, party atmosphere, beautiful young girls at their peak, and just the celebration all sounds so "wholesome," and seems to brighten one's life. Yet, it really has no attraction to me. I don't crave all the bells and whistles. The female form to me is perfectly sufficient, with no embellishment, aside from proper cleanliness, graceful etiquette, and, sometimes, a beautiful sundress and heels.

Also, dating civilians, again, takes this obsession, and places it into an entirely different genre of normal acceptable behavior between human beings of the opposite sex. I applaud your approach to life. Dating enables true intimacy, and pleasure.

Mine involves a more primitive game of satisfying basic sexual and emotional instincts that were neglected in the past due to an extremely structured, disciplined, and repressed lifestyle.

In essence, I am on a spree, a bender, that if not curtailed at some point will morph into an inescapable habitual lifestyle. Of course, it already has.

But, in actuality, from my perspective, I am just bucket-listing my way to sexual sobriety. There is a method behind my madness. It could and will end abruptly. Just not in this very moment.

I'm just using the free time that I never was afforded to experience the fantasy of variety and intimacy, unbounded. I see it as a risqué temporary chapter of my life to balance the once stoic chapter, full well knowing that it cannot and should not be maintained indefinitely.

Believe it or not, I once was a shaven-head monk in my earlier years. I certainly have made up for and surpassed my lost quota of female companionship surrendered in those celibate years.

Isn't life strange?

If you only have time for one area, which of these two areas have more action? Linsen and Rd (East of the red MRT line) or Lungshan temple area (Kangding Rd, Guilin Rd.) Going back in a few weeks and probably will adventure out and try something new.

TIA.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2915401]If you only have time for one area, which of these two areas have more action? Linsen and Rd (East of the red MRT line) or Lungshan temple area (Kangding Rd, Guilin Rd.) Going back in a few weeks and probably will adventure out and try something new.

TIA.[/QUOTE]Depends on what you are looking for. Linsen Rd you usually need to meet some random person that will show you pictures of the girls on their phone, and then take you there.

Longshan you need to pick her up yourself, and can follow Amazake's amazing posts on that.

If you're looking for a massage and some sort of happy ending then go to the Landis hotel and walk around in that area there (Jilin Rd, Minquan E read towards Xintian temple).

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2915512]Depends on what you are looking for. Linsen Rd you usually need to meet some random person that will show you pictures of the girls on their phone, and then take you there.

Longshan you need to pick her up yourself, and can follow Amazake's amazing posts on that.

If you're looking for a massage and some sort of happy ending then go to the Landis hotel and walk around in that area there (Jilin Rd, Minquan E read towards Xintian temple).[/QUOTE]Thanks AsianFever, that helped quite a bit. I will roam around Longshan area and see what that's like.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2915343]Most appreciated. Sounds like your level of sophistication and quality are leaps and bounds above my small game. I enjoy hearing about that level. The ambiance, party atmosphere, beautiful young girls at their peak, and just the celebration all sounds so "wholesome," and seems to brighten one's life. Yet, it really has no attraction to me. I don't crave all the bells and whistles. The female form to me is perfectly sufficient, with no embellishment, aside from proper cleanliness, graceful etiquette, and, sometimes, a beautiful sundress and heels.

Also, dating civilians, again, takes this obsession, and places it into an entirely different genre of normal acceptable behavior between human beings of the opposite sex. I applaud your approach to life. Dating enables true intimacy, and pleasure.

Mine involves a more primitive game of satisfying basic sexual and emotional instincts that were neglected in the past due to an extremely structured, disciplined, and repressed lifestyle.

In essence, I am on a spree, a bender, that if not curtailed at some point will morph into an inescapable habitual lifestyle. Of course, it already has.

But, in actuality, from my perspective, I am just bucket-listing my way to sexual sobriety. There is a method behind my madness. It could and will end abruptly. Just not in this very moment.

I'm just using the free time that I never was afforded to experience the fantasy of variety and intimacy, unbounded. I see it as a risqu temporary chapter of my life to balance the once stoic chapter, full well knowing that it cannot and should not be maintained indefinitely.

Believe it or not, I once was a shaven-head monk in my earlier years. I certainly have made up for and surpassed my lost quota of female companionship surrendered in those celibate years.

Isn't life strange?[/QUOTE]Never thought I'd read such eloquent writing on ISG, life is def strange sometimes.

I don't have any great reports to add other than I was on the island of for a few days recently for the first time in years, I had no idea how the scene worked but I also didn't want to put too much effort so the what I thought would be the easiest thing to do was to hit up Tian Long aka heavenly dragon. The opinions of it seemed all over the place but I decided to take a chance. If anyone has every been to Vien Dong in Saigon its pretty much run the same way but with a slight few differences.

Special massages are no a given but must be requested, there are old dudes there who are just using it as a day spa but have no intention prob of getting action. That said its all very standarized, you undress and store valuable in a locker with a key. You shower, sauna, relax, which was quite a nice experience for me. My Chinese is very basic so I wasn't quite sure what the different steps were but in order to help my fellow foreigners (I am of Chinese descent and I did not see any non-asians in there as far as I know) but I was able to kind of gently bumble along. After the bathing part theres a cafe / restaurant and you can go back to the locker room to retrieve your phone / laptop in case you want to do work. You will sit there for a while, watch TV or eat some food / drinks until the mamasan who you will see making the rounds comes and ask if you will be wanting a massage. She speaks some basic english and was kind enough to try to parlay with me and my basic Chinese. Ask for the special massage and she will know what's up, regular massage I believe is like 600 NTD while the special runs 2. 6 k? Sorry I don't remember but my total spend here would be around 3. 6 K all said and done.

As for the massage part I got a really cute girl, I'd say 8+/9 in my books and age probably late 20's to early 30's at worst. Not too skinny and nice enough boobs. Massage was decent and I was a little surprised when she asked me to get on all fours and did a little rimming action with some hot oil and her fingers. Finished with a BJ which I found very acceptable. Sorry guys didn't get her # for you to request but I would easily repeat.

[URL]https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202405190007[/URL]

[QUOTE=Amazake;2916425][URL]https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202405190007[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like someone didn't pay their bribe money.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2916672]Looks like someone didn't pay their bribe money.[/QUOTE]Think more like every once in a while, the police needs pretend and show they are doing something. This is just a show.

As my days dwindle, I desperately conspire to enjoy my last remaining gasps in the warm airs of my precious Taiwan.

I move once again towards the bustling streets of Wanhua, overflowing with foods, goods of every genre, the great Longshan Temple and lustful pleasures.

There I find ladies, when sifted through meticulously, can be found a few of rare sculpted beautiful womanhood.

Yet, none finer to my taste than the one I have dubbed, Jaqueline, the Cinderella.

Wanhua is so much more to me than just a fulfillment of my carnal desires. I partake in shopping sprees, fruits, vegetables, rare local rice and bean varieties from bulk vendors, teas, clothing, gadgets like cheap timepieces, my meals, my sense of tourism and exploration, my interpersonal relationships with citizens and vendors, the spiritual opulence and safety of the temple, even lessons in negotiation of goods and services. And, realizing that I am no match for those seasoned veteran vendors, as I find myself walking away, suddenly realizing that the bargain I thought I mustered was blatantly flawed in their favor. (cheap tricks of the petty tradesmen at its finest) And, just laughing at my ignorance and my arrogance, thinking I could outwit a local. But, it's all good, all a part of the carnival. Small losses are considered donations and small payments for anecdotal humor and entertainment at my small expense, spending foreign money, anyway.

I got fully drained by the one and only beautiful "Cinderella!

Unfortunately, all is not as blissful as I had hoped for. Her patience with me grows thin, my using her far beyond her Wanhua function as a quick release for lonely wayfarers. She feels a bit outplayed as I maximize every nuance of her femininity, a function that the venue was not designed for. Yet, she has no alternative, but to give it up to one who knows her more than she desires to be known.

She has a soft side that is impossible for her to guard, a vulnerability. And, I feel she would seek to avoid one such as myself who disrupts her relatively quick and profitable money-changing quick john turnovers. Although we delight in our pleasures, it disrupts her rhythm of a fast-turnover model of delivering a very decent, well-priced sandwich, (using the McDonald's franchise model) at a reasonable cost, yet not equipped with providing a higher level of service and product for that price. She finds my overstaying, and overconsumption of the condiments made available but supposed to be used more sparingly in watchful, careful, good-mannered moderation. None of which I honor as I become more and more comfortable as her frequent guest, almost demanding more and more attention with ever more deepening levels of fulfillment, exploring into her untapped areas of psyche and sensuality.

In plain words, boys, I have overstayed my welcome. The guest that just won't leave, says too many goodbyes. Going back to the hors the'oeuvre tray, quite gluttonously and selfishly after the main course, desert and coffee mark the completion of the meal.

Boys, I self-admittedly, stand before you guilty as charged, as a bonafide, run-of-the-mill, common, ordinary, typical western pain in the fand' ass.

Maybe it is not quite as bad as articulated, exploiting some artistic license for exaggeration to drive the message home. But, it remains true on some level.

That general tenor is felt. And, I have apologized, and she does nod it off, probably knowing that my time here is limited, knowing that I'll be out of her hair (no pun intended) in a matter of days.

She is a strange bird, Jaqueline is. She comes across pleasant enough, yet glazed-over a bit with a guarded stoic protective coating. Yet, that glazed-over protective coating just melts away when engagement commences, and resurfaces almost immediately after engagement. Not much of a lingering afterglow as with many of the girls I have been with.

In my heavy business years, I worked for clients who demanded more than the norm, and I felt absolute disdain for their treachery. Why shouldn't she?

But, who knows? I am no psychic, and my impressions and feelings have been proven wrong previously. I hope that I am wrong this time.

However, being the gregarious sort of lunatic that I am, I cannot resist going back to her for a few more servings, gift-bearing to her, trying to make amends for any unintentional rudeness on my behalf.

I mean, an argument in my favor can be made, that I am a regular paying customer, certainly meaning her no harm, just overjoyed to find such fulfilling, truly girlfriend-style intercourse on the streets where quick comfort and sometimes massive disappointment is the rule of the day.

All that being said, she has told me she likes me, which means the world to me. Because, I just can't do what I do at this age, merely for relief. Without a deeper connection, the act in and of itself fails to offer complete satisfaction.

This girl loves the intimacy of continuous sex, once she is drawn in. But, the operative phrase here is "once she is drawn in. ".

Once drawn in, she just has an addiction to sex. Yet, just prior, it's like "oh my God, I'm entering into this again! It's quick sand for her, along with her greed for wealth.

I would assume that the ideally good customer cums fast and gives her time and leisure to prepare for her next customer. Again, the McDonald's analogy.

The huge difference is that she isn't doing this for a few weeks, like the Thais, who move in on short stay visitor visas, try to make a load of cash, and return home. This is her permanent job, day in and day out. Blue collar worker.

A mutt like me comes in, full of piss and vinegar, and wants to ravage the poor girl non-stop, and out of mercy, she relents and gives in. In the beginning of our relationship, the newness made it more acceptable. Unfortunately, the devil of all abhorred qualities in male / female relationships slipped in, that being "attachment. " My attachment to her, muddies the waters to some degree.

In order to create some space in our relationship, I find it necessary to break up the fixation on her by interspersing our regular sessions with other girls, even the infamous notorious "Thai Bubblegum Brats. ".

But, coming back to Cinderella, I realize her worth.

The odd thing is, recently I have come in to see her with the intention to slow down the tempo and intensity, but it is almost impossible. We both just get pulled into it. She begins to stride hard, and I feel obligated to lend support to keep up with her gallops. It is an inescapable circle.

She would be a great girlfriend. And, actually a wrong choice for a paid-for. If she were a girlfriend, I would take the lovemaking in a completely different direction, slow it down to a snail's pace, rev it up, and back it down to an idle, repeatedly.

But, the play time allotted in the dungeonous alleys of Wanhua, curtails a deepening of the experience. That, along with myself being healthwise fearful of entering into any oral games with a girl in this profession.

Que Sera Sera.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2824493]With respect to your comment "I am clean like Arctic snow," there is the undetectable concerns that fall through the cracks. I don't want to go too deeply into this, because it brings back emotions that are quite disturbing to myself.

Let me vaguely describe the situation. The love of my life, Asian loyal virgin, only myself, together night and day. I always get tested and also "clean like Arctic snow. " She goes for routine checkup. HPV pops up. Precancerous cells. Doctor wants to see me. Finger pointing to me. Embarrassing. Myself and my lady, trust destroyed. [/QUOTE]I'm sorry to hear about this.

Couldn't you have had HPV even before you ever met your Asian loyal virgin? So there is no way you could have known.

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2917638]I'm sorry to hear about this.

Couldn't you have had HPV even before you ever met your Asian loyal virgin? So there is no way you could have known.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your compassionate inquiry.

In actuality, it can never be conclusively proven whether a male has HPV in most cases. Also, there are so many HPV's.

My experience occurred years ago, and my love gets tested and results are now fine. Regular testing for women is quite important because there is early detection treatment.

I could never be really evidenced as the culprit, and, you are correct, it could or could not have been transmitted at any earlier point in my life. I will never know. At least at that time, the doctor told me there was no testing in men. But, the doctor questioned and accused me like The Spanish Inquisition. It shook me to the core. I don't mind suffering my personal karma if it hits me squarely in the face. But, when my actions affect a loved one, the pain is far worse.

In today's modern world with so many pathogens, we must be cautious. Staying pristine and chaste, is just still too much discipline at this point. The best I could do is after leaving Taiwan, greatly reduce visits. Anyway, that is easy due to lack of availability elsewhere, and the cost is greatly increased. For some semblance of peace of mind, at least for myself, keep it wrapped in latex and try to avoid contacts with mucus membranes.

I heard of a lady being treated in Taiwan for HPV with "33970;20844;33521;26681;" (pú gōng whyīng gēn) which is common dandelion root. And, surely there are stronger herb concoctions and western treatments for the harmful pathogen.

God Bless all with good health!

Are there go go bars in Taipei? Similar to what they have in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Dumbc;2917775]Are there go go bars in Taipei? Similar to what they have in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Bars where you can view girls and pay to take home? Not really.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2918105]Bars where you can view girls and pay to take home? Not really.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks. That's a bummer.

Closing the Wanhua Chapter.

Came to Wanhua for a final visit there. I still have a little more time before I leave the island. But, I wanted to complete the Wanhua Chapter early so as to be at ease and not rushed.

Spending plenty of money in Wanhua buying gifts and having farewell sessions completed prior to leaving the island.

I might go to the Taoyuan and Keelung venues for a final tour of the battlefields. But, that remains to be seen.

Saw Jaqueline / Cinderella, and I changed our routine a bit. Had many sessions with her. She is very busy, also. Quite a clientele. We had some closeness that is always misinterpreted by me. She is, in the end, a business woman. The business can be quite lucrative, and nothing stands in between her and her financial survival.

The "Thai Bubblegum Brats" cannot hold a candle to Cinderella's professionalism, business acumen, sophistication, presentation, and service.

She is guarded, but inevitably at some point during the session, her guard disintegrates, and her vulnerability emerges which creates spontaneity, joy and pleasure during the session. It is a difficult transition for me to maneuver from the blissful states in spontaneous lovemaking, only to witness her protective wall reemerge as her tension becomes palpable as she readies herself for her next customer. Clothes on, clothes off; just another john-infatuation.

In a way, I am happy to call it my last visit with her and break the cycle. I was caught in it. I did enjoy over and above activity. But, sensing her business side creeping into the sessions annoys me. So, I feel elated in my emancipation from her and delighted to be free again to choose.

Don't get me wrong, she was absolutely wonderful. Every session, she indeed put out. Nothing more could be asked of her as one engaged in her profession. Yet, the selfishness in me somehow expected more. Anyway, a wonderful experience and time to move on. And, she did say she will miss me and eagerly awaits my return. (My money's return, more precisely).

So, after finishing with Cinderella, in order to finish the Wanhua scene with a full sense of completeness and dignity, I had to see my "Taiwanese Long Tall Sally," one more time.

Haven't seen her in a while. She is well-seasoned, late thirties and just as happy as a bowl of red cherry jello. Met her in a particularly dark, dank, off the beaten path, extremely dingy alley down a long corridor of dank dingy alleys, but less so than her hole in the wall. And, I never complain, and I am not complaining now, but jeez, it never ceases to amaze me that she ended up with the worst of the worst accommodations. The perfect place for an Agatha Christie cloak and dagger type murder scene. The walls were sweating and I used a separate dungeon bathroom to urinate, down an even deeper alley.

But, close the door and strip her down, there she was, smiling from ear to ear, sort of like "Elly May Clampett" (Donna Douglas) in the Beverly Hillbillies, spilling out of her 2 sizes too small short-shorts and tshirt, wearing her spiked heels. My walk behind her through the catacombs was surreal, the dark medieval snicket, contrasted by her swaying lovely swaying hips, propped up and accentuated by her high spiked heels and hearing her all giggly and laughing.

What a friendly and unique girl. She is just naturally sexy. I almost forgot what a sweetheart she is. Beautiful hips and breasts, absolutely voluptuous and delights in giving, laughing and making sure I am treated like a king. She is subservient and her blowjobs are slurpy and fun. When finally she mounts me, the festivities become unbelievably lively wild, playful, innocent and frolicking.

And she loves her some dirty talk and playing the older brother / little sister skit. I like it too. And it really improves my Chinese. Loves encouragement to climax, and remains saturated wet and wild beyond the session's end. Very, natural, sweet and kind, appreciative and loving. Easily expresses her happy, innocent, school girl demeanor, literally like she somehow remained with the happy innocence of a girl going to the junior prom, having too much to drink, forgetting her self-consciousness, and just letting go and unwinding in the back seat of the Buick, as if it were the very epitome of her life.

She really made me feel great. Her joy and happiness is so overflowing, that sensing her blissfulness, I could not help but be carried away in her effulgence of emotions. Just the "salt of the earth" kind of woman who loves life and loves sex. Holds you while you put your pants snd shoes on as a gesture of respect. She has the manners of the traditional people.

Cinderella is far more intense on her time and business plan. Long Tall Sally is also very busy, but far less serious about life.

Being with her definitely recharged my batteries and instilled in me a very loving, happy freedom. She isn't one to take your money and find a way to bide her time until you leave. She seems to relish every moment of the ceremonial mating dance, as if it really meant something to her. I have great appreciation and affection for her. She really attended to me with love and attention. Showing age in appearance, but certainly not in energy. Makes sure she lovingly smashes and smothers me with her abundant breasts and hips, literally begging me to celebrate this super charged sexual experience with her. What an absolutely wonderful, sharing native girl. She is one of those that you can feel her joy, and she simply must share it with you or she will burst. A very nice sexy free-spirited woman, a good old fashion girl next door that I used to take to the carnival. Buy her a soda, popcorn and a hot dog, kiss her on the top of the Ferris Wheel, and fuck her behind the big tent.

So, I had a double date with Jaqueline / Cindarella and Long Tall Sally, and then walked around and made many purchases to give to friends when I return home. Spent money like water. Yet, felt enriched by spending the money. Go and figure. (see Bible quote below that validates my feelings).

Isn't that what money is for, to use it and spread it around to enrich others so that they may enrich you with experiences and goods?

I just thank God that I was blessed with enough money, and that the prices are reasonable enough to be able to buy my dreams and fantasies.

Had a great time finishing the chapter. Probably have to return one more time to acknowledge a few legit massage girls.

I leave Wanhua with no regrets whatsoever, estimating a 95% customer satisfaction rating over the many years, even factoring in a few sour apples, and the notoriously famous / infamous "Thai Bubble Gum Brats. ".

I always believe in ending it right, so my return is welcomed with open arms.

1. Proverbs 11:24-25 (NIV):

"One person gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed. ".

[QUOTE=Amazake;2918599]Closing the Wanhua Chapter.[/QUOTE]Wishing you the best experiences while you are still here.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2918827]Wishing you the best experiences while you are still here.[/QUOTE]Thank you, AsiaFever. I am truly moved to tears by your heartfelt sentiments. I am planning a few rendezvous prior to embarking on territories less conducive to such easily-accessed pleasures and varieties. However, reading the adventures of my compadres on this forum will certainly inspire and uplift my spirits. Many Blessings to the crew. Keep it covered, stay healthy, stay happy, stay wealthy, stay Blessed, and treat the ladies right. It is always a give and take.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2918599]Closing the Wanhua Chapter.

Came to Wanhua for a final visit there. I still have a little more time before I leave the island. But, I wanted to complete the Wanhua Chapter early so as to be at ease and not rushed.

Spending plenty of money in Wanhua buying gifts and having farewell sessions completed prior to leaving the island. ".[/QUOTE]Amazake, I truly enjoyed your informative posts!

You bring out the nuance of sex, lust, women, and relationships especially in Taiwan.

Often it's not just wham, bam, thank you ma'am!

I hope you still have time to write some more experiences. Or even past experiences!

Are you going to have more experiences and write about them after you leave Taiwan?

Wish you the very best luck for your future!

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2918909]Amazake, I truly enjoyed your informative posts!

You bring out the nuance of sex, lust, women, and relationships especially in Taiwan.

Often it's not just wham, bam, thank you ma'am!

I hope you still have time to write some more experiences. Or even past experiences!

Are you going to have more experiences and write about them after you leave Taiwan?

Wish you the very best luck for your future![/QUOTE]While away, I can never resist dropping in and hearing how my most excellent Taiwan friends are doing. I have participated on other boards, in other locations, and find you guys in Taiwan have taken on the demeanor of the island, as I have, also. We are far more mellow. We seek the enjoyment and pleasure of a woman, without exploitation and immature boyish bravado. We seek to be happy, not at another's expense, but seeking mutual gratification, which leads to friendships with these lovely flowers.

As an example, the other day, I returned to my regular. On my previous visit, I left my sweaty t shirt in her room by mistake, as I brought with me a second clean tshirt to put on after our session. I thought that I just lost the sweaty t shirt. But, on my return visit, my sweetie freshly laundered, dried and lovingly folded my garment and handed it to me with a smile, as if to say "I appreciate you, and don't mind doing your laundry. " That felt really good and made our session more intimate.

Above all, be safe. Keep it covered and carry a little bottle of sanitizer or good quality alcohol, applying it generously in and around your boys and body to protect yourselves. Enjoy your Taiwan. I know it's not as blatantly open sexually as Thailand, and other real hotspots and monger destinations, but with a little effort, courage, intelligence, and an open heart, Taiwan can definitely satisfy your desires.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2919048]As an example, the other day, I returned to my regular. On my previous visit, I left my sweaty t shirt in her room by mistake, as I brought with me a second clean tshirt to put on after our session. I thought that I just lost the sweaty t shirt. But, on my return visit, my sweetie freshly laundered, dried and lovingly folded my garment and handed it to me with a smile, as if to say "I appreciate you, and don't mind doing your laundry. " That felt really good and made our session more intimate.

Above all, be safe. Keep it covered and carry a little bottle of sanitizer or good quality alcohol, applying it generously in and around your boys and body to protect yourselves. Enjoy your Taiwan. I know it's not as blatantly open sexually as Thailand, and other real hotspots and monger destinations, but with a little effort, courage, intelligence, and an open heart, Taiwan can definitely satisfy your desires.[/QUOTE]That's amazing to hear about the kindness of that girl.

I'm curious, do you have any stories of dating any of these girls?

Dating meaning you saw them regularly outside of their work.

Or do other people have experiences or stories?

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2919465]Or do other people have experiences or stories?[/QUOTE]I could never date a woman knowing she is getting railed by random guys during the day.

It's a business transaction for me, I give you money and I want nothing (I. E. No disease) in return.

Playing my final hand.

I swear to God, I was headed for Keelung. I was in the Taipei Main Station heading for the High Speed Rail. That red light district has never failed me. I know some dedicated faithful girls there that would never ever disappoint me. Tried and proven, battle tested, and then. "WTF are you doing, stupid?" That was an interruption to my regular linear thought process by my "monger angel," who impatiently felt it necessary to avert a disaster.

I stopped dead in my tracks. He always looks out for me. And, I knew where he was going. He never had to say a word. But, I posed the question in thought, "Monger Angel, you mean Cinderella?

The dead silence spoke louder than words. But, there was a loud sound which sounded exactly like, "Duhhh!

"THANK YOU, MONGER ANGEL!

So, easy enough, hop on the Blue Line to Longshan, and met Cindarella in the street.

I was committed completely to a totally different, extremely memorable session this time. I meditated beforehand, calmed way down, and there would be no frantic frenzied attack on this lovely lady to remember me by. Very slow, very conscious, heart-to-heart lovemaking. It was extremely fulfilling. It had to be. Nothing remotely.

Beast-like. Because, we did that already.

She was very happy. She felt respected (as always, really) and she returned my embraces, and mimicked me, and let me know when my hands clenched her too tightly.

Anyway, she absolutely deplores being manhandled in any way. She is a fine looking intelligent lady with sophistication. And, I know it sounds a bit ridiculous to describe a street girl with such glowing terms. And, I have been called a "hopeless romantic. ".

But, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. " And, I might be delusional, but I have also been with quite a few ladies, so I do have a storehouse of memories to compare her to and make judgments. So, I know that I am not a complete love-smitten lunatic.

But, the "proof-of-the-pudding" is that I am done and satisfied with her in this year. I did my absolute best, and so did she. There is absolutely nothing left undone. To go again would just be unintelligent monger gluttony. The session was nothing less than a 10+. She made it special. I can walk away with a clear conscience.

Gave her small gifts as always. She loves the little acts of kindness from the old fool.

The "waiguoren" is a guest here, and I feel duty-bound to represent my country well. Everybody here treats me with respect, and I try to double the ante.

We left each other exchanging grand smiles and a loving embrace. We have been together many times, and definitely have come to know each other's egocentricities. And, had I not gone back this last time before leaving, I would have left Taiwan feeling incomplete in my relationship with her.

You might think it ridiculous to call it a relationship. But, I am using the word "relationship" quite globally and generically. Of course, I don't mean "committed"relationship. But having been with someone intimately on many occasions, there is at least a semi-strong relationship.

Even buying fruit from the same vendor in Wanhua 100's of times is a relationship. I am feeding the birds crackers now. I do have a relationship with these birds, what they like and don't like.

So, I left her, fulfilled emotionally, but still needing to feel the thrill of jungle mating that I will never get from her.

Well, there is no shortage of road-worthy low-mileage girls in the XiChang Market. I walked down the street a few paces, and picked up a small appreciative smiling Vietnamese girl, of no extraordinary beauty, other than being young and somewhat pretty, but with a great peppy attitude and smile. She jumped on my request, and down the alley and up the stairs we went.

We stripped down and she was a simple cute girl in her late 20's. Absolutely no inhibitions whatsoever. Polar opposite of Jaqueline the Cinderella. Got to work on a CBJ, and she very excitedly jumped on my pole, and gleefully rode and rode until her exhaustion. Begged me to pound her good in mish. And, we went to work until the bell sounded. I was still stuck in neutral. She didn't turn me away. Bent over and stuck her cute fanny high in the air, guided me in, and we did about 4 to 5 extra minutes in doggy until I was drained. She was very giggly and cleaned me up, and I left.

That might be about it. Doing a double exhausts me. Not a kid anymore.

I will post again because I have one or two more half-written messsges, mostly by way of commentaries that I will post up.

As always, thank you gentlemen.

P.S. I don't encourage anyone to lead a mongering life. It is an addiction, and I am seriously contemplating steps for completion and finalization of my childish ways. Early-aged fantasies that never came to fruition, having been allowed to fester and express themselves wildly in these elder years.

PSS: However, I am not trying to be hypocritical, with myself behaving like a drunken monkey and telling others not to fulfill their desires. So, all I can say, honestly, is try and follow your heart. Don't let mongering take the place of a loving and fulfilling relationship. And, if you are irresistibly drawn, and the resisting of which makes you unbearably unbalanced, please indulge safely, covered, and intelligently.

PSS: Believe it or not, although I seem like an out of control monger, many times I resist. It is just that I have found a good price and freedom on this island, so I clear up the bucket list. Hopefully this bucket list is nearing completion and I will create a completely sane life.

Recently had an update from one of my regulars. There seems to have been a raid recently and many of the shops on Linsen were hit! One of my favorite spots is closed for good with the OTK saying they're looking to close up business for good. Bit scary times. Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2925550]Recently had an update from one of my regulars. There seems to have been a raid recently and many of the shops on Linsen were hit! One of my favorite spots is closed for good with the OTK saying they're looking to close up business for good. Bit scary times. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]That's scary. Wonder what triggered this.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2926817]That's scary. Wonder what triggered this.[/QUOTE]There is a new chief of police. The shops and the new chief are making a new deal. Before the negotiation is over, no shops are safe.

[QUOTE=SomewhereOnEarth;2928345]There is a new chief of police. The shops and the new chief are making a new deal. Before the negotiation is over, no shops are safe.[/QUOTE]Makes sense.

Wonder if there's any issues with other things as well. Just saw that there was a shooting at Tianlong today. I was about to head there to see one of my regulars for 40 minutes of non-stop bareback fkkking with CIM. Now my boner's gone;.

[URL]https://www.ettoday.net/news/20240710/2774798.htm[/URL]

For those that don't read Chinese. TLDR, a known gangster and his follower were shot outside Tianlong this afternoon.

Hey folks,

I'm planning a trip to the far east soon and have always been interested in Taiwan. I normally prefer to meet local girls via dating apps and was wondering if Taipei is a good option for a decent looking 40 yo white guy? Are local girls generally open to sleeping with foreigners after a couple of dates or are they quite conservative in this regard? I also enjoy massage places (with HJ ending) and would like to know if Taipei has plenty of offer in this regard and what I might expect to pay.

I'm not dead set on Taiwan and so feel free to suggest another country in the region which might better suit what I'm looking for as mentioned above.

Many thanks!

[QUOTE=Doggus;2929454]I'm not dead set on Taiwan and so feel free to suggest another country in the region which might better suit what I'm looking for as mentioned above.[/QUOTE]I cannot speak for Taiwan as I have not lived there for years, but if your objective is to meet women on dates and sleep with them then Jakarta would be your best option in Asia IMO. Via online apps you will find many beautiful girls wanting to meet with you from uni students to divorced MILFs. Go read the Jakarta forum for dating app stories to know for yourself. Now, the catch is that Jakarta is a fuckin hellhole and you may not want to spend more than 5 days there but if your only objective is to date and sleep with beautiful girls then that is your place.

[QUOTE=GraniteSt8;2929520]I cannot speak for Taiwan as I have not lived there for years, but if your objective is to meet women on dates and sleep with them then Jakarta would be your best option in Asia IMO. Via online apps you will find many beautiful girls wanting to meet with you from uni students to divorced MILFs. Go read the Jakarta forum for dating app stories to know for yourself. Now, the catch is that Jakarta is a fuckin hellhole and you may not want to spend more than 5 days there but if your only objective is to date and sleep with beautiful girls then that is your place.[/QUOTE]That's great. Thanks for the heads up. I'll head over to the Jakarta pages for some more info. I will be in the region for a few weeks and so may have time to check out 2-3 different cities. I just wanted to find places where the girls are not too conservative and are sexually liberal when it comes to dating. English speaking is another pre-requisite. I also enjoy massages with HJ and hope to visit some places that are reasonably priced and not too expensive.

I've tried everything from the Wanhua streetwalkers to the Linsen spas, to the Thai & viets in their personal studios / hotel room. KTVs too.

One thing I have not tried in Taipei, but have tried elsewhere, are the very high end escorts. They are usually well educated, many currently attending university, well traveled, etc. They come with a higher price tag obviously. In other countries I've paid up to 500 USD per hour. In a few cases even more than that.

Anyone know if this type of service and experience exists in Taipei?

[QUOTE=Optional;2942985]I've tried everything from the Wanhua streetwalkers to the Linsen spas, to the Thai & viets in their personal studios / hotel room. KTVs too.

One thing I have not tried in Taipei, but have tried elsewhere, are the very high end escorts. They are usually well educated, many currently attending university, well traveled, etc. They come with a higher price tag obviously. In other countries I've paid up to 500 USD per hour. In a few cases even more than that.

Anyone know if this type of service and experience exists in Taipei?[/QUOTE]I plan on visiting for the first time and have been doing a bit of reaserch. Theres a lot of "tea delivery" sites if you search in chinese, I did find one that did list girls as foreignor friendly and english speaking in [URL]ggpds.com[/URL].

Theres also massagerepublic which I've used in other countries, just stick with verified profiles and if they have reviews. Let me know if it works out.

[QUOTE=Doggus;2929454]Hey folks,

I'm planning a trip to the far east soon and have always been interested in Taiwan. I normally prefer to meet local girls via dating apps and was wondering if Taipei is a good option for a decent looking 40 yo white guy? Are local girls generally open to sleeping with foreigners after a couple of dates or are they quite conservative in this regard? I also enjoy massage places (with HJ ending) and would like to know if Taipei has plenty of offer in this regard and what I might expect to pay.

I'm not dead set on Taiwan and so feel free to suggest another country in the region which might better suit what I'm looking for as mentioned above.

Many thanks![/QUOTE]Yes and No. I lived in Taipei for 2. 5 years. The local girls are super friendly with foreigners and happy to connect and chat. However, they may not jump into bed on the first date and like civilian girls anywhere you need some game and charm and time. You could get lucky with a drunk girl at 2 am in a club though. If you are just passing through, its less likely but living there I had no problems dating women 20 years younger than me.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2943487]If you are just passing through, its less likely but living there I had no problems dating women 20 years younger than me.[/QUOTE]How did you meet these girls that are 20 years younger than you?

Dating apps? Bars? Malls? Which areas?

Did you have to take them to expensive high end restaurants?

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2943723]How did you meet these girls that are 20 years younger than you?

Dating apps? Bars? Malls? Which areas?

Did you have to take them to expensive high end restaurants?[/QUOTE]Nope, met them the old fashioned way. Parties, low key bars (not big clubs), networking events etc etc. I would usually take them for some cocktails or similar on the first date. Second date was often at my apartment where I would cook for them which almost always led to the bedroom. I should say I am over 50 so 20 years younger are women in their late 20's / early 30's. Not the 18-25 crowd. Also had some luck with Filipina workers but the Taiwanese girls were way hotter and sexier.

[QUOTE=Doggus;2929454]Hey folks,

I'm planning a trip to the far east soon and have always been interested in Taiwan. I normally prefer to meet local girls via dating apps and was wondering if Taipei is a good option for a decent looking 40 yo white guy? Are local girls generally open to sleeping with foreigners after a couple of dates or are they quite conservative in this regard?[/QUOTE]"Local girls" is quite a broad category and most probably won't talk to you but it's easy enough to find more than a few who will sleep with you easy enough. Most that I've had success with on the first date have come after a decent amount of chatting online. Many have some kind of 'three date' rule after which it happens. If you want to go to bars, it's easier than this.

Thank you for sharing your story about the Viet girl in xichang. Do you mind telling how much the damage was? Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Amazake;2919916]Playing my final hand.

I swear to God, I was headed for Keelung. I was in the Taipei Main Station heading for the High Speed Rail. That red light district has never failed me. I know some dedicated faithful girls there that would never ever disappoint me. Tried and proven, battle tested, and then. "WTF are you doing, stupid?" That was an interruption to my regular linear thought process by my "monger angel," who impatiently felt it necessary to avert a disaster.

I stopped dead in my tracks. He always looks out for me. And, I knew where he was going. He never had to say a word. But, I posed the question in thought, "Monger Angel, you mean Cinderella?

The dead silence spoke louder than words. But, there was a loud sound which sounded exactly like, "Duhhh!.[/QUOTE]

Street Report.

Hey folks, thanks to everyone that shared info on this forum, esp. Amazake. My prose is not going to be as poetic, but hopefully informative.

For reference, I'm a middle aged white guy and speak zero Chinese. I can get GFE for around $300 USD around where I live, so I wasn't interested in dropping 5-10 K NT $. I was more interested in cheaper quicky sex. For one thing, I was in Taiwan mostly for sightseeing (and what an amazingly beautiful country it is), for another I rarely travel alone, so I have other obligations. Street scene like the right choice for me, and it worked out.

I mongered almost exclusively in Longshan temple area. It worked well, and I didn't see a reason to go elsewhere. If I ever have more time, I might try JKForum using google translate and see if it's better, but for now I just approached girls on the street in that area. I never used anyone's help, I just spoke directly to girls myself.

To being with, I used info that someone else posted a while back (Asian Fever if I remember right? I started with Zhixing Market on Kangding Rd. It was mentioned that there will be a couple of girls there. Sure enough, around 7 pm, the market was closed, but the lights are on, and in the middle of the market there were two girls just standing by one of the empty counter. They were as obvious as it could be. I passed through the market twice. There was just one on my first pass, and then the second one showed up on my second pass. They were around 40 I would guess, but in good shape and dessed sexy (stalkings, short skirts). I'd rate them around 6-7. Neither one attempted to talk to me. I figured I'd come back if I didn't find someone better. I ended up not coming back, but I did walk through the market another night and also saw another girl working. So it's a pretty regular spot, but not much selection.

Then went on to another location mentioned by the same poster. It was a small alley just west of Kangdin on Sanshui and then south into first small alley. (I'm not 100% sure Sanshui is right, I think it is though). Poster mentioned there will be a few girls there, and he was right. There around half a dozen girls there. I should say women because they looked to be in their 30's-40th. Most were in short black dresses. Some set on scooters, some stood. It was obvious who they were. The location is pretty secluded. I saw one that was kind of attractive, but didn't approach. Walked through there twice and left. Never came back there.

Went to the third location mentioned by the same posted. Around market at Guilin and Xichang, where I was told some men might approach me to offer to help me find girls. However, luckily, I walked through Xichang market starting at Guangzhou St and going north to Guilin (not sure if that's the same one poster mentioned or not? It's basically just to the east of the Longshan temple. I hit the paydirt there.

Xichang market from Guangzhoe to Guilin became my hunting ground for the remainder of the trip. I haven't tried finding other locations. There were between a dozen to three dozen girls there every day, all hours of the day. One day I was there at 9 am, and there were already almost a dozen girls. There were plenty at 2 pm, and at 7-8 pm. Not sure how late they stay out. Their places are either right off of the street, or a couple blocks away. Plenty of young pretty girls in their 20's. Most speak very limited English. Some just enough to tell you the price. The regular price is 1500 NT $, though some ask for 2000 NT $ and won't budge. I've done both, and other than the price there was no difference. Honestly 500 NT $ isn't a big deal to me. I tried negotiating twice from 2000 to 1500 and was told "no" three different times. There was one time when the girl didn't tell me the price in advance and didn't ask for money in advance. I gave her 1500 after the deed at her place and she just said "thank you" in Chinese (one of the two sentences I know, LOL). I never was asked for 2500. I was shut down once by one looker. I asked her if we can have fun, and she said she didn't do it and pointed to other two girls. But I saw her standing around and talking to the other two girls, so I am pretty sure she *does* do that, she just didn't like something about me. There is a 10% chance she was either their manager or a civilian.

Anyway, the market is in the middle of the street. There are shops on both sides of the street. The girls stand by the shops, so not quite in plain sight, but easy enough to see even from the street. Just walk next to the shops. They are very obvious. Large groups, skimpy outfits for most of them. They just stand against the buildings. Hard to get confused. Very very obvious. I've never done street pickups before, but didn't have any issues. Walked up one side of the street from Guangzhoe to Guilin, crossed the street and walked do the opposite side. Both sides had girls, but more girls on the east side of the street. Down the west side of the street I saw one cute young girl by herself. Stopped by and said "Hi" in English. She said Hi and was smiling at them. I asked her if she is available, she said "1500?" in English, I said sure, and we went. As she walked in front of me, I noticed she is a bit chubby. She works a white outfit that was helping hide it and made her look skinnier than she was. Don't take me wrong, she wasn't fat by any means, but thicker than I like. I like fit spinner with completely flat stomachs. She was maybe 10 lbs heavier than I like (which is visible on a small girl). Her face was very pretty though, and her attitude was very nice (as it turned out, she was the nicest girl I was with on the entire trip). We walked a couple of short blocks to her place. It was a tiny studio just big enough for a mattress and her suitcase, but it did have a restroom with a shower. She used the toilet and offered me to use it. I washed up real quick using the shower. She was surprised but gave me a paper towel to dry up (like a very large paper towel from a roll). We had a nice quickly, even with a tiny bit of kissing which she didn't initiate but didn't reject. I didn't go for DATY as she was a bit thick, and I only go down if I think the chick is gorgeous. But it was nice, unrushed. I couldn't quite finish because she was a bit on the heavy side as I mentioned. She wasn't gross or anything, just not quite might type, and I had a couple of drinks, so I couldn't totally get into it. After about 15 minutes or so I realized it wasn't going to happen, told her it was good and I was done. She was OK with that. Another quick wash up and we were out of there. She said she was hoping to see me again. She was a pretty girl, if I just wasn't so picky about skinny girls it could've been excellent. As it was I was OK with 1500 NT $ (less than 50 USD) for a quicky with a cute girl.

Stopped by the market again and tried to see if I could get someone else. Went to the east side that had more selection. Talked to two hot chicks. They wanted 2,000 NT $. Both didn't really speak English. Both had someone that was helping them with English. Neither went down to 1,500 NT $. The second one was starting to get pissed off, and some older guy came over and started saying something to me (I'm guessing "pay up or shut up") in Chinese. I left and called it a night.

Next night headed to the same place around 7 pm. Found a hot girl, nice large fake boobies, flat stomach, wore a mask but had pretty eyes. Asked her in English how she was doing. She spoke passable English and said "good, it's so hot though". Asked her if we could play. She said "you want to go up? Boom boom?" (Boom boom was universally understood by all girls BTW). I said yes. She said "OK". No price negotiation, didn't even mention how much. I assumed 1500. Walked a couple of blocks to a small studio apartment (large than first girl the day before). Nice AC, bigger shower, tiny towels but plenty of them. Undressed, jumped in the shower, dried off, and admired the girl I was with. Perfect 10 out of 10 body (small, fit, flat stomach, large boobs, pretty face). She told me to to lay out, quick CBJ and then CFS cowgirl. She was so hot and so intense, it I lasted maybe 2 minutes. She wasn't stopping, I had to tell her I was done (I was still hard from vitamin V, I guess she couldn't tell). She was very surprised "already? No, it didn't hurt my feeling at all, LOL. Afterwords quick shower, gave her 1500, no issues, told me thank you. Asked her if I could have her phone number. She offered Line or Instagram. Chose line.

Next day was there around the same time. Contacted her via Line. She replied and was available. I couldn't see her but she saw me (she was hiding in an alley, said lots of police, so other girls were still right on the street). I did see several policemen in the area. Girls *seemed* unaffected and were still in plain view, but I guess they were being more careful. I mean I saw cops right in the same market two shops away from the girls, clearly they could see them. I don't know if they chase them away periodically, or if they arrest them periodically, but I never felt and danger (maybe I'm stupid).

Anyway, same girl, same place. Tried going down on her, but she told me "no, I see many customers, you have bacteria in your mouth". OK, fair enough. Definitely not GFE, no kissing, but still good service and friendly overall. Did mish and doggy this time, lasted a lot longer, till the buzzer went off. Basically you get about 20 minutes for 1500 is the standard. Quick shower, said goodbye. Oh yeah, she was on a 6th floor in a tall building with an elevator. On the way out she told me she gets out on the second floor I get out on the first floor. Not sure why, that was the drill though. I ended up on Kangding road right in the middle of a bunch of massage places (just south of Guilin, on west side of Kangding). Many older MILFs (40's-50's, 4-5 out of 10) were almost grabbing me by the hand trying to get me in, not taking no for an answer. I was all done for the day so told them no.

Third day decided I wanted variety. Didn't contact my girl and was hoping she wouldn't see me in the market (or wouldn't be too jealous). Went to the west side of the market by the shops. Saw one cute young girl in a short dress. Nice legs, pretty face. Started talking to her. She was replying in Chinese, but smiling. Almost defiant attitude. Her friend next to her started translating. I basically said "Boom boom" she said 2000. I countered with 1500 but she wasn't going down. Decided to go for 2000, not a big deal. Went accross the street into an alley, second floor very close the market. Bit apartment with many rooms, many working girls inside. Basically a small brothel. Not sure if there is a different way to contact them. She took me into one of the rooms. She used her phone to take a picture of the number on the room (it was "5" FWIW). I'm guessing she pays per use of the room (purely guessing here). Went inside, she demanded her money in advance. She was the first one to ask for the money in advance. I was hoping not to get ripped off, but handed her the money. It all worked out. She lost her dress. Nice tight young body, pretty face, small stomach, smaller but perky and nice natural books (my preference actually). Pretty friendly, good service, not GFE. No kissing. I didn't even try for DATY, didn't look like it was going to happen. But service was good. Went through a couple of positions. She said she was Thai. Told me when she was leaving the city. I let myself out, went the wrong way down the alley which dead-ended. Head to go back to the market. Oh year, there is big metal unlocked gate on the alley, so you can't just walk in through the market without opening the gate.

Another day (after a break) I had a dedicated mongering day. It was a street girl at 9 am, then Ceasarworld Sauna, then anther street girl around 2 pm. First girl was at 9 am as I said. Still same location, market by Longshan temple on Xichang just north of Guangzhou. There were already at least half a dozen if not a dozen girls on the east side of the street, in a group. On the west side of the street there was a lone MILF. I could tell she wasn't 20, but she was hot, in a nice short white dress, white stalkings, high heels. Skinny like I like. Worse a mask but you could kinda tell she wasn't ugly. Approached her on my second pass. She spoke decent english. Agreed on 1500 and went up. Her studio was right off of the Xichang on the second floor. Private studio, nice and spacious (compared to all other ones I've seen, other than brothel apartment from prior day). Chatted for a minute. She asked for the money. Sure, no problem. I jumped in the shower. Tiny towel provided. After that good service. Not GFE still, but very nice CBG and CFS. She wasn't young but had very nice tight fit skinny body. Honestly hotter than most 20-year olds these days. Tiny boobs which I am OK with. They were perky. I lasted for a while and she was patient without rushing me. Cleaned me up and let me shower after we were done. Her name is "Maggie". She said she's local. I tend to believe her, though I speak zero Chinese unlike many of you guys.

I'll save Caesarworld Sauna report for a separate post. It was OK with a MILF that was in slightly worse shape. After that I was ready for another round before calling it a day (my third round that day). Went back to the same market, east side. There was a group of young hot looking chicks. I picked one and asked her if she wanted to party in English. She looked me over and said 1500 in English. I said OK and followed her. Another brothel apartment, on the second floor, right off of the market. Several girls inside, watching security cameras on large TV, cooking, etc. She took me to the room and asked for the money immediately. Gave her the cash. She turned out the bright overhead light. After that it was the worst quickly of the trip. She was a completely cold fish, even though she was young and hot, 10 out of 10 for me in looks department, absolutely disinterested though. I fucked her in cowgirl, mish, doggy, and made her finish me of in cowgirl. She kept asking "OK? OK?" as in "are you done?" after each position, but followed my directions to switch positions. Finally we were done. I was on my own to clean up. Needless to say I never repeated with her (didn't really see her again either). Still, she god the job done and she was really fucking hot, so I just grudge fucked the shit out of her and still managed to enjoy it.

Yet another day (actually before my prior mongering day) - same market, around 7 pm. Walked through twice. On the second walkthrough saw absolutely stunning young chick and tiny black dress. Approached her. She looked me over and said 2000. Didn't argue. In the hindside her attitude was almost hostile in the beginning, so I should've walked away. Little head did the thinking though. She took me to the same brothel apartment as the third girl (braces girl). Offered me to use the toilet. Someone was in there, LOL, taking a shower. Waiting for minute and was able to take a piss and clean up a bit. Went into the room. She demanded her money immediately. Took off her dress. Holy shit, she was fucking hot. 10 out of 10, again. This trip was definitely some of the hottest chicks for cheap, but service was spotty as you can tell. Anyway, we get on the bed. She cleaned me up again before we started. Quick BJ, a couple of quick body kissing, and then mish and doggy. The few in doggy was unfuckingbelievable. Best ass and legs I fucked in a long time. What a beautiful girl, though not the most friendly. Also grudge fucked her, which she was fine with, pounded it home and enjoyed it. She offered shower / toilet afterwards again. I mean she was amazingly hot, but it's funny that two of the hottest chicks were almost most unfriendly. I guess they get by on looks alone without needing to be sweet. I wouldn't repeat with either one, but can't say I regretted fucking them, LOL. I still remember that amazing ass in goddy. Beautiful tiny spinner with perfect body.

Afterwards I feld not completely mentally satisfied, so crossed the street and saw the girl with braces. Chatted briefly and went back *to the same apartment*, LOL. I was kind of hoping my prior chick wouldn't see me, and fortunately she didn't. Same routine, she took a picture of the door, we got in, I paid her 2000, proceeded to have very nice quicky. She was a lot friendly than the earlier girl, smiling, trying to speak limited English, very very nice CBJ with a bit of DT, then three positions and I finished with her riding me to cowgirl. She was pulling my johnson out and rubbing her pussy. That was hot as fuck. Very nice PSE, though certainly not a GFE.

Final day (after another break of a couple of days) went back to the market. Saw Qing Qing. She said she was leaving tomorrow. Didn't question why I didn't contact her on line. She probably saw me fucking other girls but was perfectly friendly still. She understands the game. I said "lets go" and we repeated all the same. Same place (I'm guessing she rents it / stays there), mish, doggy and cowgirl to finish, I lasted till the buzzer this time impressing her (though she did take it easy on me this time). Still not GFE, but still nice and friendly. Told me she is going to shop for her daughter tomorrow. Said she's 26 (not sure how old the daughter was). I couldn't tell she had a child. No stretch marks at all, perfect body. She said daught was pretty big when she was born too. Said she'd be back to Taipei in a month (and already tried contacting me on LINE, but just once).

That was the end of my pooning adventures in Taipei. Lost of good cheap sex, surprisingly hot street girls, good service overall. I mean GFE would be nice, but the better street girls were friendly enough to enjoy them, and the two unfriendly girls were hot as fuck, both perfect 10, so I guess I can't say I regret fucking them at around 50 USD each (one was 1500 NT $ one was 2000 NT $).

[QUOTE=Csnow;2946450]Street Report.



That was the end of my pooning adventures in Taipei. Lost of good cheap sex, surprisingly hot street girls, good service overall. I mean GFE would be nice, but the better street girls were friendly enough to enjoy them, and the two unfriendly girls were hot as fuck, both perfect 10, so I guess I can't say I regret fucking them at around 50 USD each (one was 1500 NT $ one was 2000 NT $).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report!

Curious to hear more about your time at the Ceasarworld.

Thanks!

Going to Taipei in mid-November and after reading the amazing adventures, I'm leaning toward going to Tian Long Sauna (as it is walking distance from where I am expected to stay) since LST probably isn't my cup of tea. I did have some few questions, that hopefully the community can help answer?

1) I read that the $4,200 is the total for special package (entry - $700 and $3,500 or)?

A) Or is it you pay $700 upfront for entry and $4,200 for package?

2) Do you pay upfront or pay when you leave?

3) Can you keep on your person your valuables for / during the special package session (I know Taipei is safe, but rather have my wallet and phone with me at all time (minus the sauna / bath portion))?

4) Any other helpful hints you can provide?

Thanks in advance. I'll probably go every day while I'm there (LOL).

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2947692]Going to Taipei in mid-November and after reading the amazing adventures, I'm leaning toward going to Tian Long Sauna (as it is walking distance from where I am expected to stay) since LST probably isn't my cup of tea. I did have some few questions, that hopefully the community can help answer?

1) I read that the $4,200 is the total for special package (entry - $700 and $3,500 or)?

A) Or is it you pay $700 upfront for entry and $4,200 for package?

2) Do you pay upfront or pay when you leave?

3) Can you keep on your person your valuables for / during the special package session (I know Taipei is safe, but rather have my wallet and phone with me at all time (minus the sauna / bath portion))?

4) Any other helpful hints you can provide?

Thanks in advance. I'll probably go every day while I'm there (LOL).[/QUOTE]What are you looking for? If it is FS, and depending on where you stay, you could get it from MP as well.

Give some thoughts and we can help provide it for you.

[QUOTE=Tonyog22;2943236]I plan on visiting for the first time and have been doing a bit of reaserch. Theres a lot of "tea delivery" sites if you search in chinese, I did find one that did list girls as foreignor friendly and english speaking in [URL]ggpds.com[/URL].

Theres also massagerepublic which I've used in other countries, just stick with verified profiles and if they have reviews. Let me know if it works out.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you tried, I personally had a bad experience with such services on my first try that I swore off using such services again.

Caesarworld Sauna Review.

First of all, you want to look for the business with this name- there are a couple of others that may pop up if you search for Caesar Sauna.

I was lucky enough to find a web site that someone else runs that had a detailed report on this MP published as an article. I don't believe ISG allows references other sites (unless they are already advertisers? Just try googling it.

So I had a fairly good idea of what was going to happen, and it worked out exactly as the article outlines. I will provide my own experience here, which mirrors that article pretty closely with minor differences.

I got to the business by metro (MRT), and I knew it was on the 15th floor of a large multi-story building. I also knew I could get to it via an elevator from the courtyard of the building if you walk through or by Starbucks that is also in that building. I've done that, walked inside, and took an elevator to the 15th floor. There are large signs outside of the building and in the elevator for the sauna / MP.

I walked out of the elevator and I was basically in the reception area. The lady at the front desk saw my "white guy" face and spoke English. She pointed me to the right, to the locker rooms. From reading the article I knew I was going to have to leave my shoes with the "shoe cleaner" guy. Sure enough, he popped out from the back of the reception and asked for my shoes. I wore flip flops. There was nothing to clean, but I left the shoes with him anyway (you basically have to). Went into the locker room. I think the receptionist assigned a locker to me if I remember right, and gave me a key. I read in the article that I wasn't going to be able to lock the locker myself and would need to call an assistance / locker room worker to lock the locker with two keys. It was not the case for me. I found the locker easily enough (though the place is huge, and the locker room is huge). Undressed, and called the locker room guy. He just locked my locker with my key only and said I can just lock / unlock myself. OK, good. The number on the locker / key is how you are identified inside. You wear it on your wrist as you go through the maze. As I walked through the locker room and walked out on the other side butt naked, there were clean-up / sitting half-height shower stalls out in the open. You sit down and wash yourself. After that you proceed to the actual sauna. It has a huge swimming pool, jacuzzies, steam rooms, etc. I wasn't interested in that, but did get into the swimming pool for a sec because it was pretty cool. Big statue of some god I assume, etc. Almost reminding me of Asian version of Caesar's Palace (the one in Las Vegas).

Anyway, I walked through the maze of various spa facilities heading to the left (if I remember right). Before you exit spa facilities into a hallway (leading to the restaurant), you will get a towel and some shorts and a robe from the shelf. I put those on, and walked through the hallway. As the article I read described, you will pass by several massage rooms with male massusses doing probably legit massage. Then you enter the restaurant. You will enter by the bar, which is also the front of the room. Your destination (the door from which the madam comes out) is on the other side of the bar, also in the front of the room. So don't go wondering too far to the back. Just go to the other side of the bar. There is a self-serve soda machine at the bar. It's free. You can also get free tea. I believe you can order food and pay for it. There are lots of TVs, magazines, papers, etc. Guys are just hanging out, watching TV, reading papers, etc. , relaxing. I grabbed a cup of soda and sat by the corner of the room from which I knew the madam was going to come out. Took about 10 minutes or so. I am guessing they observe you on a camera. A white guy sitting there, sipping a cup of soda and waiting is probably very obvious. You can take your phone with you BTW (I didn't know and left mine in the locker room). There are smaller lockers with combination locks in the sauna aread where you can temporarily lock it up if you want to jump into a pool or steam room. Without the phone I was pretty bored.

So in 10-15 minutes a madam came out and headed straight to me. Again she spoke English and asked me if it was my first time. I said yes. She said it was going to be 4200 NT $. I can't remember if we discussed the service at all or not. I think everybody that does what I did expects full service of course. I said good. She said follow me. We walked in into the door she came out of, and up the stairs. At the end of the stairs there is a James Bond-like secret wall entrance. We walked in and she took me to one of the massage rooms. As someone else already said, the floor is raised, and she warned me about it (not to stumble or hit my sheen I guess). I walked in and she left me there.

After a minute a MILF walks in. She was dressed somewhat sexy, and had lots of makeup on. Hard to tell the age. I would guess 40's to 50's. Attractive enough though. As I understand, it was my chance to send her away and ask for someone else, but she looked acceptable (if not exciting). I expected a reasonably attractive MILF and that's what I got I guess. The lighting is also very poor. Anyway, she immediately asked me if I wanted tea. I said sure. I guess it was a signal that I was accepting her, because she immediately looked at the number on my locker key (strapped to my wrist). Then she quickly left. A few minutes later she came back with some tea. I drank it, it was good. She offered me a shower (which I accepted of course), it was solo, she didn't join me. Then I laid down and got some very good massage. Then the massage got playful. She knew what she was doing. She got my little guy at attention pretty quick, told me to turn over, and dimmed the light even more. Then she proceeded with CBJ and CFS cowgirl style. I couldn't really see her (maybe a good thing), but she felt good enough, other than her body being too soft. I like girls with some muscle tone. Based on how her body felt, I would guess she was in her 50's maybe (but still in decent shape). Anyway, she knew what she was doing, and I actually enjoyed myself. It was pretty quick, and then quick cleanup with warm towel from her, quick shower for me, and then I was done.

She walked me out of the secret door, and she told me she was "number 11" in English (if I remember right). Other than that she didn't speak much English, and she profusely apologized for that (I felt bad, I felt like I should've been the one not speaking Chinese of course). I had no intentions of repeating with her of course, but I nodded politely and told her that I got it.

I walked back though the maze to the locker room. In the locker room I was able to unlock my locker myself, got dressed, and walked out to the reception. The shoe cleaning guy gave me my slippers / flip-flops back. I think you are supposed to tip him 100 NT $. I didn't, so I got charged 4300 NT $ (though I am pretty sure the madam inside told me 4200 NT $). Not a big deal either way. I paid cash and left. Don't know if I could've used a credit card. Taiwan is surprisingly cash-oriented.

So that was my adventure there. I probably would've been pretty lost have I not read that article I found. I think my report mirrors the article exactly, other than the fact that I didn't need locker assistance or the second key to lock or unlock my locker.

It was an interesting experience, almost like a scavenger hunt of sorts I guess, or an Escape Room, LOL. I figured out the puzzle and came out a winnder. I liked it well enough to try it once, but not to repeat. If I were to repeat, I'd be more selective in the girl / woman servicing me. From what I've read the selection at Caesarworld Sauna is mostly (exclusively?) MILFs though. Please report if you get a young hottie. The price was OK, especially for everything that was included. There was absolutely no upsell or other negotiations. It was a pretty straightforward experience. It did take too long for my liking though, and I certainly prefer younger chicks with better bodies. I also would've liked GFE if possible. So I never repeated there on my visit.

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2947692]Going to Taipei in mid-November and after reading the amazing adventures, I'm leaning toward going to Tian Long Sauna (as it is walking distance from where I am expected to stay) since LST probably isn't my cup of tea. I did have some few questions, that hopefully the community can help answer?

1) I read that the $4,200 is the total for special package (entry - $700 and $3,500 or)?

A) Or is it you pay $700 upfront for entry and $4,200 for package?

2) Do you pay upfront or pay when you leave?

3) Can you keep on your person your valuables for / during the special package session (I know Taipei is safe, but rather have my wallet and phone with me at all time (minus the sauna / bath portion))?

4) Any other helpful hints you can provide?

Thanks in advance. I'll probably go every day while I'm there (LOL).[/QUOTE]I just went in May so I'll share my experience:

You pay when you leave, its about 700 for the basic entrance but the extra 3500 is for the special massage. You can't keep your personal valuables on you until you finish bathing / sauna portion. You will have the ability to go back to your locker to grab your phone afterwards and chill in the restaurant / lounge, there are even guys on laptops doing work in there.

I don't know if you can encourage the selection of the girls, I think you can request one if you know her number but otherwise its luck of the draw, luckily I got a girl who was super cute and probably in her early 30's.

[QUOTE=Csnow;2946450]Street Report.

Hey folks, thanks to everyone that shared info on this forum, esp. Amazake. My prose is not going to be as poetic, but hopefully informative.......
.[/QUOTE]Hey man, just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to write such a comprehensive report. I appreciate the effort you put into this report and the one on the sauna, too.

I've always been tempted to monger in Taipei (and to visit Taipei / Taiwan, period), but the forum here is pretty quiet and discouraging, as are some other English-language ones. Your report made me feel that the options are there, and at a decent cost! Super informative too. Now thinking of a layover the next time I fly through TPE.

One question: I was trying to find Xichang Market on google maps but had no luck. you mentioned it was just east of Lungshan Temple, which I did find, but didn't see any markets east of there? Is there an alternate spelling of the name that google maps uses?

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=WintersLight;2949823]Hey man, just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to write such a comprehensive report. I appreciate the effort you put into this report and the one on the sauna, too.

I've always been tempted to monger in Taipei (and to visit Taipei / Taiwan, period), but the forum here is pretty quiet and discouraging, as are some other English-language ones. Your report made me feel that the options are there, and at a decent cost! Super informative too. Now thinking of a layover the next time I fly through TPE.

One question: I was trying to find Xichang Market on google maps but had no luck. you mentioned it was just east of Lungshan Temple, which I did find, but didn't see any markets east of there? Is there an alternate spelling of the name that google maps uses?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]What are you looking for? Everything is available, and we can help you find it.

Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful. I got most of the information from this forum (special thanks to AsiaFever) but also from the article on that other web site, search for Rockit Reports.

As far as the exact location of the Xichang market. The name on Google Maps is in Chinese, and I'm having problems posting Chinese character in this forum. Try this.

No. 247, Xichang St, Wanhua District, Taipei City, Taiwan 108.

Basically the market is the block of Xichang Street between Guangzhou and Guilin Rd. Search for Lungshan Temple, then look for those three streets to the east. Xichang St runs south to north.

Honestly, I wouldn't necessarily recommend Taipei as a mongering destination. It's an amazing city in a beautiful country and I had a blast here from purely tourism / travel perspective. I loved the place and hope to be back. Mongering in this city is secondary to me (though a bit of an addition, I have to admit, LOL).

If you love beautiful Asian women (including Chinese), Sydney, Australia is a much much better place. Just read my recent report in Sydney forum along with recent reports from a few other guys. Ginza Empire and Ginza Club in Sydney blow away every single place I found it Taipei (though I am a white foreigner that doesn't speak the language of course). But honestly I'd prefer one GFE date at Ginza Empire in Sydney (see my review my date of Coco there) to my entire week of mongering in Taipei.

So. Yes, absolutely do visit Taipei, it's mind-blowing-amazing, but not because of mongering. If you do need to clean out the pipes / blow some steam, yes, cute street girls are there and affordable, but are not the main attraction for me.

[QUOTE=WintersLight;2949823]Hey man, just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to write such a comprehensive report. I appreciate the effort you put into this report and the one on the sauna, too.

I've always been tempted to monger in Taipei (and to visit Taipei / Taiwan, period), but the forum here is pretty quiet and discouraging, as are some other English-language ones. Your report made me feel that the options are there, and at a decent cost! Super informative too. Now thinking of a layover the next time I fly through TPE.

One question: I was trying to find Xichang Market on google maps but had no luck. you mentioned it was just east of Lungshan Temple, which I did find, but didn't see any markets east of there? Is there an alternate spelling of the name that google maps uses?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JL234;2949541]I just went in May so I'll share my experience:

You pay when you leave, its about 700 for the basic entrance but the extra 3500 is for the special massage. You can't keep your personal valuables on you until you finish bathing / sauna portion. You will have the ability to go back to your locker to grab your phone afterwards and chill in the restaurant / lounge, there are even guys on laptops doing work in there.

I don't know if you can encourage the selection of the girls, I think you can request one if you know her number but otherwise its luck of the draw, luckily I got a girl who was super cute and probably in her early 30's.[/QUOTE]Also I would like to add that for the 700 NT entry fee that allows you a full 12 hours to use the spa facility. This is a great deal if you want to really chill out, eat some beef noodle soup, have a beer or tea, watch TV, whatever. Plus it's open 24 hours! There is a room you can sleep dorm style and it's super comfortable. And yeah the ladies are bit older and soft but they are very accommodating and all part of the relaxation experience. Taiwan is great. Go slow and make friends and you will be in Shangri-La.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2948188]What are you looking for? If it is FS, and depending on where you stay, you could get it from MP as well.

Give some thoughts and we can help provide it for you.[/QUOTE]Staying in the Wanhua District and looking primarily for FS, but any release is better than none (LOL). Not staying too long (a few days), but trying to monger when I can. I was leaning toward the sauna route as it seems safer in a way and probably easier than the red light district around LST? I do want to try the KTV scene, but will try that in Vietnam, which is the other part of my trip. Any input is greatly appreciated, but at the same time, I do want to try the sauna while I'm here.

[QUOTE=JL234;2949541]I just went in May so I'll share my experience:

You pay when you leave, its about 700 for the basic entrance but the extra 3500 is for the special massage. You can't keep your personal valuables on you until you finish bathing / sauna portion. You will have the ability to go back to your locker to grab your phone afterwards and chill in the restaurant / lounge, there are even guys on laptops doing work in there.

I don't know if you can encourage the selection of the girls, I think you can request one if you know her number but otherwise its luck of the draw, luckily I got a girl who was super cute and probably in her early 30's.[/QUOTE]Super thanks for the insights. Two quick questions, do they take credit cards or is it all cash transaction? Do I "need" to go bathing / sauna first or can I go the restaurant / lounge directly? Rather not be walking around naked in front of other guys (preference). Thanks again for the info.

After RTFF, I found myself with a free afternoon and a urge to check out the Xichang Market. Took the MRT there and hopped out and headed to FamilyMart to grab a bottle of water before venturing to the Xichang Market at around 3:30 PM on a weekday afternoon. Walking alongside the shops lining the streets, there were around 15 girls on the east side and a little less, around a dozen on the west side. This was my first time here with intent and after scoping out the scene, I decided to go with a beautiful voluptuous woman with a white tank top and a lace top which showed off her bosom. No words were exchanged, I simply walked up looking her straight in the eye and when I was about two or three steps away from her, gave her a nod and she nodded back and motioned for me to follow her. She turned around and we headed into the alley she was standing in front of. My heart was pounding with excitement. We reached an apartment downstairs gate, she opened the gate and we went upstairs to a nice air conditioned room. "It's so hot outside isn't it? She said to me. "Oh it really is. " I reply back. It really was a hot afternoon, about 33 degrees see, and her air conditioner showed brisk 23 C. Perfect. She had a nice little scented oil defuser which had a calming blue light. She went to the corner and started undressing, revealing beautiful white skin and many tattoos which adorned her back and legs. She looked to be about 35-40? Gave her the $1,500 upfront and we got down to business. I asked her to put on the condom I brought before we started anything. Gave me a nice CBJ for a few minutes and then we started CFS with missionary and then doggy. She disliked it when I touched her nipples and asked me to grab her entire titty instead. All in all, a good experience and she was pretty nice. It ended and she asked me if I wanted some more ice water before I headed back down to the street. A nice gesture but I declined. I wanted to find another girl so I walked around some more, there was some police action since someone decided to park their car in the middle of the street, blocking foot traffic, and two policemen were there taking pictures. This led to the girls on that side of the street to all scurry into the alleys. I headed onto Kangding Rd. And went into one of the alleys near the Milwaukee sign someone else mentioned and there were about 20 ladies there all waiting around in a center courtyard for those two aforementioned policemen to leave. I smiled coyly at them and went on my way. Back onto Xichang St. , I saw a young Thai with a very nice rack. Again, walked straight up to her and nodded and she started walking right away to an alley for me to follow. Went up and this girl's room wasn't as nice and the air conditioning wasn't as strong. Gave her the $1,500 and we got down to business again straight into CFS with her riding cowgirl on top and finishing in doggy. Both ladies had copious amounts of baby wipes to clean you with. It was a good time and I am tempted to return again soon.

Found a few agents on line who have loads of girls. Prices are high though. Also honestly have found Wanhua not bad fucked a few hotties there for like 1500. I'm wondering though is there anything in New Taipei similar to Wanhua or something. Sometimes I don't / can't be bothered going into Taipei.

[QUOTE=Ddguy;2955861]Found a few agents on line who have loads of girls. Prices are high though. Also honestly have found Wanhua not bad fucked a few hotties there for like 1500. I'm wondering though is there anything in New Taipei similar to Wanhua or something. Sometimes I don't / can't be bothered going into Taipei.[/QUOTE]What is the price through the agents?

How did you find these agents?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2955883]What is the price through the agents?

How did you find these agents?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I found a few Chinese language forums (I don't have them saved anymore) lots of agents had adds or users recommended them. 4/5000 minimum for a Taiwanese girl but they are graded I mean can be up to like 10-15 k for "Internet celebs" or "actresses" etc. She will be hot as fuck though. Can add extras eg BBBJ no condom, creampie, take videos etc. I spent a few days typing some chinese phrases in and eventually found a few Taiwanese forums. Tried the lower tier and the higher tier. Forked out 10 k after a tax rebate for 3 hours with a 20 year old minor internet celeb. Had no idea who she was but apparently had done some commercials and was insta / tic toc famous. Creampied her like 3 times and took a few videos, was great but not exactly something you can do often. Lower tier I would always cover up though as those will be the ones who get the most poundings haha.

[QUOTE=Ddguy;2955906]I found a few Chinese language forums (I don't have them saved anymore) lots of agents had adds or users recommended them. 4/5000 minimum for a Taiwanese girl but they are graded I mean can be up to like 10-15 k for "Internet celebs" or "actresses" etc. She will be hot as fuck though. Can add extras eg BBBJ no condom, creampie, take videos etc. I spent a few days typing some chinese phrases in and eventually found a few Taiwanese forums. Tried the lower tier and the higher tier. Forked out 10 k after a tax rebate for 3 hours with a 20 year old minor internet celeb. Had no idea who she was but apparently had done some commercials and was insta / tic toc famous. Creampied her like 3 times and took a few videos, was great but not exactly something you can do often. Lower tier I would always cover up though as those will be the ones who get the most poundings haha.[/QUOTE]How do we find those links? 10 K for a safe creampie is not bad.

I have a layover in Taipei for one night on my way to the Philippines. Are there any easy options in Taipei? Is there any route where I'm more likely to find BBBJ / BBFS?

Anyone ever try [URL]taipeihotelmassage.com[/URL]? May have to twftt.

[QUOTE=AvaniFan;2958198]Anyone ever try [URL]taipeihotelmassage.com[/URL]? May have to twftt.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Not this one. But once I did use a hotel massage site I found from Google search to book for a massage at my hotel. When the lady came, I negotiated 3500 TD to fuck her. Was no young chicken. But an in shape pre-MILF. Would not have been my first choice normally, but I felt a lack of options especially if you don't speak the language.

I had better luck at an erotic massage parlor in Linsheng road where I could select an extremely hot Taiwanese girl. It costed 2900 for an erotic massage that included BBBJ and the girl was completely nude. Unfortunately I did not have a condom, nor did she have one so I could not negotiate FS.

[QUOTE=Ddguy;2955861]Found a few agents on line who have loads of girls. Prices are high though. Also honestly have found Wanhua not bad fucked a few hotties there for like 1500. I'm wondering though is there anything in New Taipei similar to Wanhua or something. Sometimes I don't / can't be bothered going into Taipei.[/QUOTE]Dear Friend, how can you find out 20 y nice girl for 3 H with a reasonable price? Thanks!

[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2958074]I have a layover in Taipei for one night on my way to the Philippines. Are there any easy options in Taipei? Is there any route where I'm more likely to find BBBJ / BBFS?[/QUOTE]Easiest option is to just pay up for it. Massage republic or escort girls site has plenty of ads, I'd imagine you can easily find BBFS for 10 k. Certainly can find lower but the quality might be lesser. That's easiest as in least hassle. Probably other avenues would yield more affordable options.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2949930]What are you looking for? Everything is available, and we can help you find it.[/QUOTE]Is it possible? Doesn't have to be FS, though it would be preferable. I'd settle for BJ or even HJ.

[QUOTE=Csnow;2959634]Is it possible? Doesn't have to be FS, though it would be preferable. I'd settle for BJ or even HJ.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm in real trouble if I can't say what I want.

Just finished my trip and it was great, there were some negatives but I can see myself making another trip in the future.

I did hookup with a couple of civilian girls I matched with in tinder but won't get into that. I will say that if you were to try that route you would need good looks and / or game.

The first "working" girl I was with was actually through SA with a girl I contacted a few weeks prior. She was easily the best looking girl I went with in the trip, early 30's petite body, with a gorgeous face, and she spoke good English. It was 25 k TWD for the meet and overnight stay, we had dinner, she showed me around a bit and explored Taipei, and at the brought her back to the hotel for some fun. Next morning was round 2 and we head to Taipei 101 for some coffee before saying goodbye. I somewhat regret not seeing her again but I had my plans and didn't want to change them.

I found different agents and sites similar to what Ddguy found. If you google ggpds you'll find a site in all Chinese that you'll need to translate. It was legit and I used it a couple of times but it was hit or miss in if they actually looked like their photos. You can set filters flike if you can creampie them, if foreign friendly, what country they're from, ect.

The first girl I went with was from Malaysia and was about 4000 TWD. She did actually look like her photo and she gave great service but the place she was staying at was an actual shithole. She was staying in dirty skeevy building and the water wasn't running that day. She had the tub full of water and used a cup to wash me haha.

2nd one was about 6000 TWD, her pictures looked like her maybe 15 years ago. She was definitely older than the stated age of 26, but I stuck with it and glad I did. The set-up was more of a massage parlor on like the 6th floor of some building. I got a full soapy massage and "poison dragon" which is what Chinese call rimming LOL. Went back to the room for the rest of the service and massage for the last 15 minutes.

3rd girl was Japanese that was a ripoff. She didn't look like her photos, although still somewhat cute but wasn't what I was looking for. She gave alright service but it cost me 25000 TWD for 1 hour. Same price for the SA girl I had for overnight.

The last one was actually in Tainan but I'll just include here. There was a Taiwanese guy I befriended before coming out and he happened to be visiting home in tainan during my trip to Taiwan. I went down to Tainan and he took me out with a couple of his friends to a KTV / Taiwanese style club. You really can only come to this place if you befriend a local or your fluent in mandarin I think. I really don't think its worth it but maybe its worth experiencing one time. According to my buddy it was 50 k TWD for the lounge / room we're in. It was bit expensive because they ordered food and bunch of extra shit. Way it worked was girls would come in and sit with each guy and entertain them. Every 30 minutes a new set of girls come in but you could "lock" a girl in for 1.5 k I think, I never did it. There were two set of girls, ones in dresses and ones in uniforms. The ones in dresses you might not be able to get any action with them and if you did they would be expensive from what my buddy said. The ones in uniform though you could pay for HJ / BJ up to full service, but they weren't as good looking. I think BJ was 1. 2 k and FS was 6 k I never went with it but it was an interesting experience.

Definitely enjoyed my time in Taiwan, the food was great and people were really kind.

Hi Folks.

Been a while since I posted. Looking to reconnect into the sauna scene around Linsen North Street. Used to get connected to the undeground scene via a chap called 悠38290; but have lost touch. Anybopdy got good a good connector or introducer?

Feel free to inbox if you'd like.

Pecky rides again.

TIA.

Pecky.

I've noticed over the period of several months that MR has a quite a few post op trans listings and while I have nothing against transwomen I do think that men are generally expecting to meet women who were born women and some may be being misled. So I wanted to give some of my red flags for being aware of these listings. Not all of these are fool-proof, some things just make it more likely that the girl is post-op, but some are clear giveaways:

- They provide an STI report that mentions the test done was "neovaginal" - I dunno how guys miss this one but some of yall need to go back to school. A neovagina is the vagina that is created during sex reassignment surgery. This one is 100%, there is no question in this case.

- They are very tall - 5'8" and above. Tall women exist, but Asian women generally are not that tall. Do extra due diligence.

- They have separate listings in both the female escort and trans escort sections.

- They mention not showering together (trans women will sometimes need to do some additional prep before the session).

- They advertise BBFS and creampie openly on their profile. Not a guarantee but its more likey so do your due diligence and compare with the other points.

- Just trimmed but not shaved around the labia. Some girls will keep enough hair downstairs to obscure any SRS scars.

And these ones will often come up by the time its too late and you're already on site:

- Lights out.

- No DATY because of *insert excuse here*.

I hope this helps some guys on their quest.

[QUOTE=Tonyog22;2960344]
The first girl I went with was from Malaysia and was about 4000 TWD. She did actually look like her photo and she gave great service but the place she was staying at was an actual shithole. She was staying in dirty skeevy building and the water wasn't running that day. She had the tub full of water and used a cup to wash me haha.
[/QUOTE]Hey bro, I was under the impression that this website was for "tea delivery" I. E. Outcall, did you have the option to go to your hotel or was the only option to go to the shithole building?

Question for the hive in Taipeil.

Here in Taipei for a very short stay (just a few nights) ; logistically going somewhere for infall is not going to work. So after scouring MR / ISG / EG found a few interesting options (yeah yeah I'm picky- looking for a spinner). One clearly pulled a bait and switch, but when I asked her to send selfies, she still looked great and set up a time for delivery. She then said she needed my full name, picture of the hotel room key and my room numver- to which I politely declined.

Is it standard operating procedure foo outcall girls in Taipei to ask for your full name, a picture of your hotel keycard and your room number outcall?

First, thanks to post #7403 for giving clear guidance.

I came to Taipei for a biz trip and I wanted to try something so I visited Wanhua Market. I got off at MRT station, took exit number G4 (just before turning for gate 1, take right to aome underground massage& fortune telling market and cross it, thrn come up). You will see 85 C bakery, just took a slight ride and it's a night market just for pedestrian. No cars. No traffic on both sides of the road. You can see girls and then you can just go and ask if you like them.

I took around 2 or 3 rounds before approaching any. I was confused how much to pay so I asked one she said $1,500 then I said no. I can give thousand shit declined at that point. I went again for around. She also said 15 but then I haggled with Google translate help and we fixed at 1300. There are rooms on the shops which they hire first. We took shower then did the deed and overall it's the time base is like they gave us for 20 minutes.

Next day also tried another, when I haggled for 1200/ she just rejected me LOL, took another go around and picked someone else for 1500. No shower this time but overall nice.

[QUOTE=StuddHere;2958944]Hi,

Not this one. But once I did use a hotel massage site I found from Google search to book for a massage at my hotel. When the lady came, I negotiated 3500 TD to fuck her. Was no young chicken. But an in shape pre-MILF. Would not have been my first choice normally, but I felt a lack of options especially if you don't speak the language.

I had better luck at an erotic massage parlor in Linsheng road where I could select an extremely hot Taiwanese girl. It costed 2900 for an erotic massage that included BBBJ and the girl was completely nude. Unfortunately I did not have a condom, nor did she have one so I could not negotiate FS.[/QUOTE]Which massage parlor in Linsheng road has Taiwanese girls? Whenever I go, the massage parlors are all staffed by Vietnamese / Thai girls.

[QUOTE=AvaniFan;2963027]Question for the hive in Taipeil.

Here in Taipei for a very short stay (just a few nights) ; logistically going somewhere for infall is not going to work. So after scouring MR / ISG / EG found a few interesting options (yeah yeah I'm picky- looking for a spinner). One clearly pulled a bait and switch, but when I asked her to send selfies, she still looked great and set up a time for delivery. She then said she needed my full name, picture of the hotel room key and my room numver- to which I politely declined.

Is it standard operating procedure foo outcall girls in Taipei to ask for your full name, a picture of your hotel keycard and your room number outcall?[/QUOTE]I think this is pretty normal, not just in Taiwan, particularly for agencies but also some freelancers as well. It is a security measure for them. They'll generally call your hotel phone and make sure you are a real person and that you're actually there. Based on the whole "photo of your room key" thing I assume you were actually contacting an agency. You probably would have been baited and switched hard out.

I'm planning a two-day stopover in Taipei on my way to Jakarta. Based on what I've read in forums, most of the activity seems to center around the area near Lungshan Temple, Wanhua Market and Xichang Market blocks between Guangzhou and Guilin. In summary, prices are approximately 1,500 NT $ for 20 minutes and most of them are Thai, Vietnamese, very few native Taiwanese / Chinese, and the choices appear to be quite limited and GFE, DFK, DATY are almost non-existent. Are there better options elsewhere in bars, nightclubs where you can find freelancers?

I wonder Taipei is really worth stopping over for this. The other option is Seoul, but it hasn't been very exciting based on my previous experiences.

That is a very difficult? To answer for someone else. I think you should look at hotel prices first in the area you were interested in. Also keep in mind that the drive from the airport will take a bit over an hour (of course depends on time of day). The food, streetfood, night market, and such is awesome.

If I had to answer, I would say; if you had friends their, and were going to meet up hang out and have fun together, then yes it would be worth it. If you were going solo, and your mandarin is decent, then I would be 50/50. Otherwise for me I think the money and time is better spent elsewhere.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2964240]I wonder Taipei is really worth stopping over for this. The other option is Seoul, but it hasn't been very exciting based on my previous experiences.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bigfist;2962792]Hey bro, I was under the impression that this website was for "tea delivery" I. E. Outcall, did you have the option to go to your hotel or was the only option to go to the shithole building?[/QUOTE]They'll have either delivery or fixed point in the description after you translate the page. Fixed point is incall where you'd go to them. Most of the lower end girls are fixed point, medium range usually fixed and delivery, and the high-end ones are all delivery / outcall.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2964296]That is a very difficult? To answer for someone else. I think you should look at hotel prices first in the area you were interested in. Also keep in mind that the drive from the airport will take a bit over an hour (of course depends on time of day). The food, streetfood, night market, and such is awesome.

If I had to answer, I would say; if you had friends their, and were going to meet up hang out and have fun together, then yes it would be worth it. If you were going solo, and your mandarin is decent, then I would be 50/50. Otherwise for me I think the money and time is better spent elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I don't have friends there and don't speak Mandarin, but this stopover is the closest I'll get to experiencing something China, so I don't want to miss it. However, I've shortened my plan from 2 days /3 nights to just 1 day /2 nights. Hope it won't be an utter disappointment.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2964240]I'm planning a two-day stopover in Taipei on my way to Jakarta. Based on what I've read in forums, most of the activity seems to center around the area near Lungshan Temple, Wanhua Market and Xichang Market blocks between Guangzhou and Guilin. In summary, prices are approximately 1,500 NT $ for 20 minutes and most of them are Thai, Vietnamese, very few native Taiwanese / Chinese, and the choices appear to be quite limited and GFE, DFK, DATY are almost non-existent. Are there better options elsewhere in bars, nightclubs where you can find freelancers?.[/QUOTE]Look I guess if your sole and only reason for traveling and purpose in life is to fuck prostitutes then maybe I wouldn't put Taipei at the top of the list (and I can't comment on Seoul in this regards). But if you also like traveling to experience new places, culture, food and aren't hung up about whether or not you get off for a couple of nights I'd highly recommend visiting Taipei in general. Great city, easy to get around, great coffee spots, great museums, and a vibrant food-centric night life.

[QUOTE=Csnow;2950111]Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful. I got most of the information from this forum (special thanks to AsiaFever) but also from the article on that other web site, search for Rockit Reports.

As far as the exact location of the Xichang market. The name on Google Maps is in Chinese, and I'm having problems posting Chinese character in this forum. Try this.

No. 247, Xichang St, Wanhua District, Taipei City, Taiwan 108.

Basically the market is the block of Xichang Street between Guangzhou and Guilin Rd. Search for Lungshan Temple, then look for those three streets to the east. Xichang St runs south to north.

Honestly, I wouldn't necessarily recommend Taipei as a mongering destination. It's an amazing city in a beautiful country and I had a blast here from purely tourism / travel perspective. I loved the place and hope to be back. Mongering in this city is secondary to me (though a bit of an addition, I have to admit, LOL).

If you love beautiful Asian women (including Chinese), Sydney, Australia is a much much better place. Just read my recent report in Sydney forum along with recent reports from a few other guys. Ginza Empire and Ginza Club in Sydney blow away every single place I found it Taipei (though I am a white foreigner that doesn't speak the language of course). But honestly I'd prefer one GFE date at Ginza Empire in Sydney (see my review my date of Coco there) to my entire week of mongering in Taipei.

So. Yes, absolutely do visit Taipei, it's mind-blowing-amazing, but not because of mongering. If you do need to clean out the pipes / blow some steam, yes, cute street girls are there and affordable, but are not the main attraction for me.[/QUOTE]I love this Sydney tip. Can you please describe how GFE was your experience in Sydney and how much you paid? (I noticed from your post you paid 25.000 Taiwan dollars for a Seeking Arrangement lady which is around $900 usd is that correct?

[QUOTE=Bigfist;2965037]Look I guess if your sole and only reason for traveling and purpose in life is to fuck prostitutes then maybe I wouldn't put Taipei at the top of the list (and I can't comment on Seoul in this regards). But if you also like traveling to experience new places, culture, food and aren't hung up about whether or not you get off for a couple of nights I'd highly recommend visiting Taipei in general. Great city, easy to get around, great coffee spots, great museums, and a vibrant food-centric night life.[/QUOTE]We both are on this forum for the same reason. If your primary purpose in life is culture, food, and travel, this forum shouldn't be in the top of the list to join. I'm not making an exclusive trip to Taipei just for this reason; it's a stopover while other options I've are Tokyo and Seoul, which I've already visited. I'm simply curious if Taipei offers decent action for a change. If this question doesn't interest you, just move on, you don't have to get snippy about this.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2965339]We both are on this forum for the same reason. If your primary purpose in life is culture, food, and travel, this forum shouldn't be in the top of the list to join. I'm not making an exclusive trip to Taipei just for this reason; it's a stopover while other options I've are Tokyo and Seoul, which I've already visited. I'm simply curious if Taipei offers decent action for a change. If this question doesn't interest you, just move on, you don't have to get snippy about this.[/QUOTE]Taipei has oppertunities, but you need to use Line and have agents on there to help you. Prices range from 2,500 to 15,000 NTD+ depending on how hot she is, if she is famous on IG, etc.

For most of the travellers, you are going to be limited by massage parlours (roll of the dice on what you get) or massage republic if you don't have the time to set up Line, chat to agents etc.

[QUOTE=Ddguy;2955906]I found a few Chinese language forums (I don't have them saved anymore) lots of agents had adds or users recommended them. 4/5000 minimum for a Taiwanese girl but they are graded I mean can be up to like 10-15 k for "Internet celebs" or "actresses" etc. She will be hot as fuck though. Can add extras eg BBBJ no condom, creampie, take videos etc. I spent a few days typing some chinese phrases in and eventually found a few Taiwanese forums. Tried the lower tier and the higher tier. Forked out 10 k after a tax rebate for 3 hours with a 20 year old minor internet celeb. Had no idea who she was but apparently had done some commercials and was insta / tic toc famous. Creampied her like 3 times and took a few videos, was great but not exactly something you can do often. Lower tier I would always cover up though as those will be the ones who get the most poundings haha.[/QUOTE]Can you please search for them? LOL.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2966249]Taipei has oppertunities, but you need to use Line and have agents on there to help you. Prices range from 2,500 to 15,000 NTD+ depending on how hot she is, if she is famous on IG, etc.

For most of the travellers, you are going to be limited by massage parlours (roll of the dice on what you get) or massage republic if you don't have the time to set up Line, chat to agents etc.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel mate. Are these prices generally for for ST or LT?

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2967132]Thanks for the intel mate. Are these prices generally for for ST or LT?[/QUOTE]ST.

For massage parlors the standard rate is about 1300-1500 per hour for the massage. It could vary from a genuine good massage, to a few touches on your back and being told to flip.

Then it starts at 1000 NTD, which at a minimum is HJ only but depending on the girl it could include BBBJ and FS. Some charge extra, upto 3000 NTD for FS. It's dependant per the lady.

LT isn't really that common here, unless you are able to speak Chinese and negotiate. Else it will just be quite weird spending so much time with someone you cannot talk to.

[QUOTE=Ddguy;2955906]I found a few Chinese language forums (I don't have them saved anymore) lots of agents had adds or users recommended them. 4/5000 minimum for a Taiwanese girl but they are graded I mean can be up to like 10-15 k for "Internet celebs" or "actresses" etc. She will be hot as fuck though. Can add extras eg BBBJ no condom, creampie, take videos etc. I spent a few days typing some chinese phrases in and eventually found a few Taiwanese forums. Tried the lower tier and the higher tier. Forked out 10 k after a tax rebate for 3 hours with a 20 year old minor internet celeb. Had no idea who she was but apparently had done some commercials and was insta / tic toc famous. Creampied her like 3 times and took a few videos, was great but not exactly something you can do often. Lower tier I would always cover up though as those will be the ones who get the most poundings haha.[/QUOTE]Gosh I wish read this great post a few days ago.

Can you please share a bit more about the service: was BJ okay?

Could you suck them?

I am the airport going back to HCMC after 4 days in Taipei with no action.

I was in Longshan temple and saw several street walkers.

But the weather was cold and my dick wasn't feeling it.

Some girls were young and sexy some over 40. The going rate.

Is 1500 for a shot but I wasn't sure what kind of service I was.

Going go get.

To be honest in Taipei I saw the most beautiful girls ever, and.

Banging a 20 yo like you did it would be fffff great.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2721022]Not sure if Fish Spa takes foreigners but they're pretty "public" online in Chinese if you know where to look. Set up similar to the Saunas like Tianlong Suana etc, Fish Spa is pay first then select a woman and go into a back room. Located on Linsen in one of the older tall buildings, the "Spa" requires an appointment to get pass the door. Appointments are made with the "ganbu"(Pimp / handler) and you report the name of the Ganbu to get in. Once in, you pay 2600 and wait for your number to be called. Either you're lead to a parade of women, or you already have one reserved with the Ganbu.

Appointments last 1 hour. For new customers, the first few times will only be half service. I've been a few times now and I drop a 1 k tip and get full service + GFE experience and 1 CIM.

Been too many times, and I kind of want to keep my special lady to myself so I'll review / post about another.

Location: Fish Spa on Linsen.

Damage: 2600 - First few times, Tip For FS and etc. Additional 780 if you want to goto the hotel upstairs (if you're worried about raids etc).

Environment: Lounge room with hidden door that leads to a bunch of "massage parlor" style rooms. Small room with a shower and a massage room bed.

Girl (s): I recommend the following; Duo Duo, Mei Li, Ke Ai and Bu Bu. For this report <- Mei Li. The girls are also on a rotation, so there's "early shift" from 11 am to around 6/8 pm and then "late shift" from 8 pm to 5 am.

Face: 8 (out of 10).

PoB: China.

Body: Slender with be Cups - 7.

Height: 155-57.

Weigh: Light, I was able to do her standing style.

Ass: 7.

Chest: 6 - (B-cups, they look amazing in a bra but meh once the bra's off, kind of pancake like drooping for someone so "young".

Age: definitely late 20's.

Skills: incredible.

Services: FS, DATY, 69, CIM, BBBJ, Snowballing (if you're into that), rimming, PSE, GFE.

Report:

I went to visit Fish Spa a few months ago after a party. I arrived at 11 pm and asked the ganbu for a young woman with massage skills and I was appointed to Mei Li, this tiny little vision with a super perky ass. I paid the receptionist and Mei proceeded to grab my hand and place it on said perky butt. She walked me to the room, instructed me to shower, she stayed and watched. As soon as I got out, she started undressing and told me to "relax". My little buddy was already hard as rock. Mei proceeded to instruct me to lady down face first on the tiny massage table. Soon as I did, she stradled my back and proceeded to rub her tits all over my backside while massaging my body, it was a great warm feeling. About 10 minutes in, she pushed her hands under my legs and started to play with my dick and balls (being crushed as I lay face down on the table). She proceeded to lift my rear up and started to lick the shaft. It was weird but extremely erotic reverse blowjob from behind. She flipped me over after a few minutes and sat on my face unprompted while I was still in her mouth. I proceed to start licking her already wet pussy. She continuously giggled and lifted her ass to prevent me from licking too much, saying that she was "sensitive". At one point, she must've known I was about to blow down her throat, she must've tasted the pre-cum, she moved her self off my face and proceed to rub the front side of my body with her tongue and tits. Before I knew it, she capped me and I slide inside. She was already drenched and I could feel the pussy juice drench my balls. She rode me for a good 5 minutes before I started to pump her. Again, she must've known I was going to blow, so she pulled out, got on the floor, un capped me and told me to sit up. As I sat up, she proceed to stroke and suck. I blew my load into her mouth until I couldn't blow any more, and she just kept sucking and licking for about a full minute. Soon as she detached herself from me, she stood up, giggled and leaned in to kiss me. I refused, and she swallowed my load and laughed. It was bloody amazing.

She then led me cock first into the shower where she gargled with mouth wash and water and then proceeded to wash my dick with water in her mouth. She bathed me, then dressed me and we cuddled for about 10 minutes. She asked for an additional 2 k on top of the 2600 and I was happy to oblige. Since then, my other experiences with her ended up with 1 k extra damage to 0. This was roughly the same with the other girls. Up charges the first few times to 0 charges after visit 3/4.

Would I return? Hell yes. Do I recommend this place? Hell yes. Happy to introduce. But I'm not sure if they take foreigners or people who don't speak Chinese.[/QUOTE]Anyone try calling fish spa agent and trying his girls?

I used to go to 88 section 2 minquan east and 206 jilin for a nice massage and release. They have closed! Anyone have some inside information what's going on?

It's always (or not) shocking how much we overpay in the states LOL.

Even going north (Canada) or south (Mexico), there's just literally better value no matter where I go.

I can speak some Mandarin, so for once it will be an asset. As opposed to my half-assed French, which didn't do much at all in Montreal lmfao.

It's not a solo trip for me though, so I don't know how much fun I'll actually be having. But it's been a while, and if I can slip away for a few hours, I think I'll take a shot at least.

Haven't done a proper Asia trip in years, maybe this breaks the ice. I also already have LINE installed. Sidebar. They took away some good emojis in the last update.

But based on preliminary RTFF, sounds like ACS level (lower tier) so I'm not sure I partake unless I can bump up to the higher tier that someone else mentioned LOL.

The funny part is that I have seen some taiwanese providers in the states already, so I wonder if that already sets the expectations for me at least. I guess we'll see.

I know my initial impression wasn't good (see my earlier post), but after reading through 12 pages, I figured it was worth a shot. And I wasn't going to bother with the higher cost of a spa. There's something far more fun and interesting in hunting Slickdeals on the streets LOL.

Obviously keep your head on a swivel, but getting off at the longshan BL stop, it was immediately obvious I was in the right place. The short skirts and rather obvious attire. I mean, doesn't take an Einstein to figure out who is providing or not.

I did an initial loop between Guangzhou and guilin, based on the reports, but only saw three that weren't young or cute, no thanks. They had heating fans on pointing towards their door.

Instead I dipped into the alleys and saw a few more some were eating. Things started to get better, younger providers, albeit still most are masked, so it's a true ACS experience. When SW are already a fairly lower tier experience. I doubled back and finally found a young cute one in a white dress, but she was swooped up quickly by someone else right in front of me LOL. You snooze you lose. I have a flight out tomorrow so beggars couldn't be choosers. I picked up the pace Eventually found a cute provider, slightly older, with a massive rack and flat stomach.

Asked how much for 20 minutes in mandarin and got quoted the standard rate. I nodded and then followed her to an alley, opened a locked door and went up stairs. There was no shower, just a bed to do the deed.

Room was decently clean and I had somewhere to hang my jacket, good enough. Some small talk to break the ice and also reveal how little mandarin I could speak. Started with a HJ, then CBJ. Not bad, but not particularly good. Oh well. Quoted 1 k for bb upgrade and I partook. I recall someone else was quoted this, so this was within expectations. Started with missionary. Got a good sweat going. Her thighs and skin felt really soft. Then moved to CG, then ACG. I didn't last long seeing that rack bouncing all around and she was decently tight. Certainly more than what we usually get in states. The younger J students we get in DC are the only ones that are comparatively tight. And I'm not a big guy either.

Maybe I would've been happier with my first choice but that's life, still got my nut and all-round was extremely easy and straightforward. I usually don't even bother with street game back home.

All in all, rttf made me well prepared. Riding mrt was quick and easy, and all in all a good trip. If I had more free time on this trip, I probably would've sampled through other avenues. Girls here in general are very cute.

I'll be here around this time next month. I'll be coming from from home in Pattaya so don't feel I'll be pressed looking for action. From reports I've heard the spas have older chicks and the street scene is a lot of Thai chicks so that doesn't interest me. I'll be in the Lungshan Temple area so the street walkers is about all I'm going to do just to say I've done it.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2973331]I'll be here around this time next month. I'll be coming from from home in Pattaya so don't feel I'll be pressed looking for action. From reports I've heard the spas have older chicks and the street scene is a lot of Thai chicks so that doesn't interest me. I'll be in the Lungshan Temple area so the street walkers is about all I'm going to do just to say I've done it.[/QUOTE]193 Jilin has Viet girls. You can add them on "line" and they will give you pics of the lineup. I have good experiences with them.

I used to go to 206 Jilin, but they have new management.

I asked for pictures of the girl that was available and she looked young and attractive. I didn't go since I already went to 193 Jilin.

Try giving 206 Jilin a shot! Or maybe someone else can try giving 206 Jilin a shot and report back.

Can anyone recommend neighborhoods or places to stay. Wanting places that are girl friendly, near the action areas and not too far from the nightlife or party spots, if possible. Thanks!

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2968601]Anyone try calling fish spa agent and trying his girls?[/QUOTE]I'll try this when I'm back in Taipei in July. It's a long way off, but these guys look interesting so I'll definitely try. From their website it looks like they have quite a few locations and loads of girls. If I get in good with the Ganbu, it would be a good place to repeat visit. Hopefully they don't mind foreigners, but most people think I'm Chinese when I talk to them on the phone or type in Chinese, so that should at least get me in the door.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2977519]Can anyone recommend neighborhoods or places to stay. Wanting places that are girl friendly, near the action areas and not too far from the nightlife or party spots, if possible. Thanks![/QUOTE]Anywhere around Linsen and Rd, Wanhua walking area or north of the train station near Zhongshan station would be good.

Tons of activity around LST today. Walking out of the station, it looked like a welcome party of SW greeting me. Unfortunately, I'm not really into the SE Asians and was looking for a local Taiwanese girl. I stopped counting at 20. They were everywhere; standing around, actively pulling guys, sitting on the benches.

So many people walking around, visiting the temple for the new year, and honestly, probably more girls hanging around trying to get a piece of the action. I made the loop down Xichang. Probably another 20 girls against the right sight of the street against the walls. Again, was looking for a local Taiwanese girl and it was slim pickings. Went down the left side near the temple and there was just a few.

Saw one nice blondie towards the end of Xichang and unfortunately, she was leading a young guy away. Will try again in a few days if time permits.

I was in taiwan for 3 weeks over chinese new year, and had some fun with local and foreign girls:

Just opposite the longshantemple at the exit of the MRT you can find around 20 Thai girls, sitting on the benches or standing there and are obiously waiting for customers, some pimps try to pull taiwanese men and totally ignored me as a westerner. All the girls are in the 25-30 years range and all look very pretty (in may eyes). They standing there in the afternoon but in did not see them in the evening around 9 pm.

You need to find the courage to go to them and talk to them, as they will not actively approach anyone, they are usually here for 2 weeks and speak some english but mostly no chinese. Cost is 1500 twd - 2000 twd for 30 minutes in a nearby room.

In the last 2 weeks I tried 4 of them and each time I had a good experience. After the 2nd visit they already knew my face, so I could chat with them and choose one for the fun part. One girl didn't want to go with me, she was afraid from westerners. They even showed me pictures from their life in thailand, mostly poor girls who need to support their family.

Some older taiwanese women also walking around there, I did not bother to talk to them and they did not bother me.

In nearby wanhua area you can find some massage places, they offer 60 min massage for 1000-1200 twd which usually includes an HJ, if you want sex they ask additional 1500-2000. Mostly older women, I tried it once, it was ok, but too expensive in the end.

I tried dating apps, badoo and tinder and hat great success too. In badoo you can find some thai or vietnam girls, who working from hotels in Ximending. The wanted 300 usd (ridiculous) but could be negotiated down to 3000 twd (100 usd). It is one hour in a small hotel and service was very good. These girls usually stay 14 days tourist visa before leaving back home.

Philippina girls can be found in baddo plenty and about 50% of them are willing to meet for a good time in a short time hotel, especially if you invite them for lunch or dinner before. I met one pinay nurse, invited her for a small lunch and offered to have some relax time in a hotel, which was accepted without hesitation.

One night I walked the streets in new taipei city and passed a dark massage place with a sign 1000 twd /60 min. I stopped and a MILF (over 40 years old but still nice looking) was sitting there in a pyjama and eating instand noodle, looked at me and asked: "massage?

It looked too funny and weird so I accepted, I undressed and lay down, she came back now dressed in mini skirt, gave me a real good massage for 45 min and then starting to touch some sensitive areas. My hands were free to touch too and she was getting totally wet. She went out for a minute and came back with a condom and without saying anything she climbed me and asked me in englisch "please fuck me" haha. Which I happily did of course. No extra charge, guess it was my lucky day.

I had a great time in taipei.

Thanks for the updates, I ended up getting a place in Zhongshan District before reading this. I'the switch out but prices are too high to make it worth it this close to my trip. Did a lot of digging around on this forum, sammy boy, singleman, and a couple Chinese ones (jkforum, etc.).

Freelancer spots are all around Longshan Temple and up on Linsen North Road. They're Thai, Viet, and older TWN / Chinese women. Did the Thai girls there give the same level of service as if you were in Thailand? I only ask because they don't do kissing here in Korea if you meet them in a massage place. Do the Viet girls allow for GFE and kissing?

With dating apps, did you hookup with any TWN / Chinese civies or p4 p girls? I've heard of a couple hookup bars, but not sure if you had a chance to check them out (Brass Monkey and Tiki Taipei). Also, anyone try the LINE / TG for the tea delivery services from the guys on sammy boy? Really want to try a TWN girl at a reasonable price, usually those girls are anywhere from 6 kNTD and up, but seems outcall is best for these.

Can anyone DM me the info for these underground hookup Twitter groups? Sorry for all the questions, first time going to Taiwan and want to make the most of it.

Can someone list the karaoke / KTV in Taipei that can call or have 传25773;22969;/ doumi / hostess girl or whatever term you use to call girl that party and drink with you in Taiwan? $$ is not an issue. Preferably the most high-end. Thanks!

After reading this forum in preparation for a short trip to Taipei, I visited 193 Ji Lin. I've been to Taiwan several times before but have never partaken of these services before. In general, I am pretty new to visiting MP in my hometown, and I was really looking forward to this trip despite all the reports that Taiwan is not the greatest for this type of fun.

I took the bus from my hotel, and upon reaching the stop, walked up and down Ji Lin and noticed how many Thai and Viet MP there are. It's just not something I ever noticed before.

After walking in, the front desk woman told me the price (1. 5 K for 2 hours) and that it was acupressure massage with oil. I can understand simple Chinese, and luckily the translation function helped with that last part. After paying, I walked up to the 3rd story and waited in the room. I really like Viets and could hear my masseuse on the phone speaking Vietnamese as she walked up stairs. I was the only one on the floor, so it was nice to have that privacy.

She told me to take a shower, and this being my first time, I didn't know about the disposable underwear. She told me about it after I got back in the room, and I changed into it in front of her. Based on what I read, I knew this place gave he, but this confirmed that I was going to have a good time as she wasn't shy about me changing in front of her.

It was a great massage and very relaxing. I learned that she's been in Taiwan for a long time, and learned Mandarin while working there. She is 38.

While on my front, she massaged my thighs and grazed my balls and had me in deep anticipation. After the flip, she massaged my entire chest and legs, and also the groin area. Eventually, she started the HJ. I asked if I could touch her butt and chest while she did this, and she agreed. She started to get a little hesitant when I started rubbing her pussy from the outside of her underwear and I pulled back. I asked to see her face and she pulled down her mask; pretty woman and told her so.

While I did enjoy the HJ, I told her that whatever she wanted to do, I would agree to. She said she doesn't do anything else. As time was coming to a close, I wanted to finish and thought about this Viet ABG I used to hook up with back home when I was younger. She was 23, had an amazing natural body. Just born to fuck and super horny. Whenever she would come, her pussy would have wild pulsating squeezes. It was absolutely amazing. If you look at my username, that's the type of experience I'm looking for again. My absolute ATF ATF. Just thinking of her was enough to take me over the top.

After she cleaned me up, I took another shower. I asked her name and she told me she was number 49. I asked her what's a nice tip to give and she said 1 k, which I gladly gave her. She's the only Viet there right now, and there's some Mainland Chinese there too. Really nice woman; if I lived here, I'd probably come back to see her. If I recall correctly, she said next month, she'll be back in Hanoi for two weeks. Treat her well.

[QUOTE=SeekingTorri;2984789]After reading this forum in preparation for a short trip to Taipei, I visited 193 Ji Lin. I've been to Taiwan several times before but have never partaken of these services before. In general, I am pretty new to visiting MP in my hometown, and I was really looking forward to this trip despite all the reports that Taiwan is not the greatest for this type of fun.

I took the bus from my hotel, and upon reaching the stop, walked up and down Ji Lin and noticed how many Thai and Viet MP there are. It's just not something I ever noticed before.

After walking in, the front desk woman told me the price (1. 5 K for 2 hours) and that it was acupressure massage with oil. I can understand simple Chinese, and luckily the translation function helped with that last part. After paying, I walked up to the 3rd story and waited in the room. I really like Viets and could hear my masseuse on the phone speaking Vietnamese as she walked up stairs. I was the only one on the floor, so it was nice to have that privacy.

She told me to take a shower, and this being my first time, I didn't know about the disposable underwear. She told me about it after I got back in the room, and I changed into it in front of her. Based on what I read, I knew this place gave he, but this confirmed that I was going to have a good time as she wasn't shy about me changing in front of her.

It was a great massage and very relaxing. I learned that she's been in Taiwan for a long time, and learned Mandarin while working there. She is 38.

While on my front, she massaged my thighs and grazed my balls and had me in deep anticipation. After the flip, she massaged my entire chest and legs, and also the groin area. Eventually, she started the HJ. I asked if I could touch her butt and chest while she did this, and she agreed. She started to get a little hesitant when I started rubbing her pussy from the outside of her underwear and I pulled back. I asked to see her face and she pulled down her mask; pretty woman and told her so.

While I did enjoy the HJ, I told her that whatever she wanted to do, I would agree to. She said she doesn't do anything else. As time was coming to a close, I wanted to finish and thought about this Viet ABG I used to hook up with back home when I was younger. She was 23, had an amazing natural body. Just born to fuck and super horny. Whenever she would come, her pussy would have wild pulsating squeezes. It was absolutely amazing. If you look at my username, that's the type of experience I'm looking for again. My absolute ATF ATF. Just thinking of her was enough to take me over the top.

After she cleaned me up, I took another shower. I asked her name and she told me she was number 49. I asked her what's a nice tip to give and she said 1 k, which I gladly gave her. She's the only Viet there right now, and there's some Mainland Chinese there too. Really nice woman; if I lived here, I'd probably come back to see her. If I recall correctly, she said next month, she'll be back in Hanoi for two weeks. Treat her well.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report!

If you like Viets, I believe most of the girls there are Viets.

At the front desk, you can take a pic of the QR code to get their Line info. They will send you pics of all the girls that work there through the Line app after one day.

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2985735]Thanks for the report!

If you like Viets, I believe most of the girls there are Viets.

At the front desk, you can take a pic of the QR code to get their Line info. They will send you pics of all the girls that work there through the Line app after one day.[/QUOTE]I sure do like Viets. I visited one or two in LST while I was in TW.

Next time I go back, I'll get the Line info. Thanks for the tip.

The scene is alive and well. One from the MRT station coming up from the parking garage, one from Xichang. There are three clusters with 8 or more each. They are from Thailand, Vietnam and some locals. Diamond building appears to be history.

Don't really have much to say as everything has been covered here extensively and very detailed, so it was easy to navigate around anywhere. The Thai girls are in groups, each with different mamasans / papasans. There's several hot young ones in their 20's, don't expect Thailand level service with any of these girls. Use single man forum, they have a list of middlemen that will hook you up with some Taiwan girls if you don't want to navigate the Taiwan sites for some outcall. Used MR to get with a Laotian girl and met a cute late 20's Korean girl at a club that I got with at her place. So depending on age, don't just stick to the mongering spots. Taiwan is far from dead and there's still action to be found, may not be in your face like Thailand but very easy to find or call to your room.

Sorry, meant to say sammy boy forum, not single man forum.

I've contacted a couple "girls" on MR and met them in person. Turns out that they are ladyboys, pretending to be women. Tell tell signs, large hands, large feet, adams apple, deep voice that they are trying to mask by making themselves sound high pitched. The one I saw was the one that advertised squirting puss and a laotian named aling. I don't know why they can't just say they're ladyboys in their ad instead of wasting my time. I will refuse to see anyone from MR now.

[QUOTE=SaigonSammy;2995042]I've contacted a couple "girls" on MR and met them in person. Turns out that they are ladyboys, pretending to be women. Tell tell signs, large hands, large feet, adams apple, deep voice that they are trying to mask by making themselves sound high pitched. The one I saw was the one that advertised squirting puss and a laotian named aling. I don't know why they can't just say they're ladyboys in their ad instead of wasting my time. I will refuse to see anyone from MR now.[/QUOTE]That sucks.

[QUOTE=SaigonSammy;2995042]I've contacted a couple "girls" on MR and met them in person. Turns out that they are ladyboys, pretending to be women. Tell tell signs, large hands, large feet, adams apple, deep voice that they are trying to mask by making themselves sound high pitched. The one I saw was the one that advertised squirting puss and a laotian named aling. I don't know why they can't just say they're ladyboys in their ad instead of wasting my time. I will refuse to see anyone from MR now.[/QUOTE]The latter does have huge hands in pictures but I wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say anything? Did you find out in person or did they let you know before you arrived?

[QUOTE=Exile;2998254]The latter does have huge hands in pictures but I wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say anything? Did you find out in person or did they let you know before you arrived?[/QUOTE]So, I met them in person. The first one looked obviously like a ladyboy. The room was a mess, like a man lived there, huge hands, Adam's apple, deep voice that he was trying to cover up. Might have been post op, or tucking the dick between the legs. Then when I decided to leave, got aggressive. (I've had an experience with turning down a ladyboy that showed up as a bait and switch at my hotel before. Same type of aggression, it's hard to explain but if you experience it, you know.) Mind you, I left a small donation to compensate wasting their time, so why they got aggressive is beyond me.

The latter one had huge hands and feet. Like bigger than mine. Not as pronounced Adam's apple. Most likely post op as well. Also deep voice but covered it up trying to talk kinda high pitched. Same thing but didn't get aggressive when I left.

Just a damn waste of time, which I don't have much of.

Had some time to check out Caesar Sauna near Taipei Arena. Parking is extremely convenient and it's very unassuming. You can be heading to the Ikea for all anyone knows. Anyway, there's a elevator bank that will bring you straight up to the establishment. Walk in and the lady at the front desk gives you a key, there's no talk about how much they charge. You go to take off your shoes and the attendant keeps it in the back for you. It's really nice, because the guy cleaned my shoes up really good. You go change out of your street clothes and put a towel on / or not, and go to the pool, spa, and sauna area. You can spend as much or as little time as you want there. Then you can shower right there as the shower stalls are right in the middle of the floor. All the dudes are walking around butt ass naked. Then you dry off and you can go to the restaurant / lounge area. It was pretty empty when I went there, a few people sleeping here and there. A few awake just watching tv or chatting. Then the mamasan comes and talks to you. She asks if you want to go upstairs to the special massage area. I said yes and she told me the price. It's 4200 NT $ for everything. I misunderstood that it was the price for the special massage, but it is the out the door price when you go check out at the end of your visit. I don't know how much the sauna part cost, but I think it's around 700, so 3500 nt $ for a special massage is a little bit steep. It was definitely worth it though, I got a good rim job, BBBJ, CFS in multiple positions with a mid 30's big titty chick. Not bad. Would I repeat? Everyday if it was cheaper. But at this I'll just splurge every once in a while.

[QUOTE=SaigonSammy;3002313]Had some time to check out Caesar Sauna near Taipei Arena. Parking is extremely convenient and it's very unassuming. You can be heading to the Ikea for all anyone knows. Anyway, there's a elevator bank that will bring you straight up to the establishment. Walk in and the lady at the front desk gives you a key, there's no talk about how much they charge. You go to take off your shoes and the attendant keeps it in the back for you. It's really nice, because the guy cleaned my shoes up really good. You go change out of your street clothes and put a towel on / or not, and go to the pool, spa, and sauna area. You can spend as much or as little time as you want there. Then you can shower right there as the shower stalls are right in the middle of the floor. All the dudes are walking around butt ass naked. Then you dry off and you can go to the restaurant / lounge area. It was pretty empty when I went there, a few people sleeping here and there. A few awake just watching tv or chatting. Then the mamasan comes and talks to you. She asks if you want to go upstairs to the special massage area. I said yes and she told me the price. It's 4200 NT $ for everything. I misunderstood that it was the price for the special massage, but it is the out the door price when you go check out at the end of your visit. I don't know how much the sauna part cost, but I think it's around 700, so 3500 nt $ for a special massage is a little bit steep. It was definitely worth it though, I got a good rim job, BBBJ, CFS in multiple positions with a mid 30's big titty chick. Not bad. Would I repeat? Everyday if it was cheaper. But at this I'll just splurge every once in a while.[/QUOTE]Rim job is not that easy to find here, well done. Did she do it automatically or you had to ask her?

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;3002395]Rim job is not that easy to find here, well done. Did she do it automatically or you had to ask her?[/QUOTE]Very interesting. I thought maybe at this place, it was part of the deal. She did it automatically. I had a hard time understanding what she wanted me to do at first. She told me to basically get face down and ass up so she can eat my ass easier. It was a very good rim session. She even reached around and handled the pole and balls for a good bit. She probably ate my ass for a good 5 minutes. It felt pretty good.

Went to that Jilin Rd massage place the other day, when walking from Landis there are 2 that are together on the left side. This is the 2nd of the next almost next to each other.

Would never go again - 30 minutes massage, no oil, no effort. The mamasan just shrugged and said nothing she can do.

Take your money elsewhere gents, there are many other options in that area.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;3003247]Went to that Jilin Rd massage place the other day, when walking from Landis there are 2 that are together on the left side. This is the 2nd of the next almost next to each other.

Would never go again - 30 minutes massage, no oil, no effort. The mamasan just shrugged and said nothing she can do.

Take your money elsewhere gents, there are many other options in that area.[/QUOTE]That's a bummer. Is this 193 or 206? I've never been to either but they were on my list.

I had a recent visit to Tian Long Sauna. It's another sauna spa type place. You go in and drop off your shoes at the front and they give you a key. Go to your locker, get butt ass naked and lock up your clothes. There are cameras everywhere, so I suppose someone is watching you get butt naked. Go to the rinse up and get into the sauna and spa. There are a few to choose from and they're all hot. You'll see a bunch of other dudes walking around naked. This place was a bit different than the other place I went to on my earlier report, this one had younger clientele it seemed like. I didn't interact with anyone. Anywho, I went to the dining room and there were a few people eating there. Mamasan was talking to some people, and then came to me and asked if I wanted the special massage. Of course, I accepted. There was another girl in the waiting room that was very pretty but I don't know what she was doing there. I thought she was the mamasan at first but. She just kinda stood there, looked like she was learning from mamasan. The older lady brought me back and soon came an late 30's chick that looked ok. Bigger tits, but her face wasn't great. I didn't want to argue so went with her. Got a decent massage. All the while, I can hear another. Chick getting railed out in an adjacent room. It went on for quite a while, I was actually impressed by whoever was laying pipe. Back in my room she proceeded with a CBJ, which I don't like. After a while, I put her in missionary and pounded it for a few minutes and came in the cover. All in all, it was decent but not sure if I'd repeat. I like Caesars so I might go there for another visit. Total cost was 4500 ntd out the door.

[QUOTE=SaigonSammy;3002701]Very interesting. I thought maybe at this place, it was part of the deal. She did it automatically. I had a hard time understanding what she wanted me to do at first. She told me to basically get face down and ass up so she can eat my ass easier. It was a very good rim session. She even reached around and handled the pole and balls for a good bit. She probably ate my ass for a good 5 minutes. It felt pretty good.[/QUOTE]Rimming with handjob is called rusty trombone.

Teltel.

[QUOTE=SaigonSammy;3002313]Had some time to check out Caesar Sauna near Taipei Arena. Parking is extremely convenient and it's very unassuming. You can be heading to the Ikea for all anyone knows. Anyway, there's a elevator bank that will bring you straight up to the establishment. Walk in and the lady at the front desk gives you a key, there's no talk about how much they charge. You go to take off your shoes and the attendant keeps it in the back for you. It's really nice, because the guy cleaned my shoes up really good. You go change out of your street clothes and put a towel on / or not, and go to the pool, spa, and sauna area. You can spend as much or as little time as you want there. Then you can shower right there as the shower stalls are right in the middle of the floor. All the dudes are walking around butt ass naked. Then you dry off and you can go to the restaurant / lounge area. It was pretty empty when I went there, a few people sleeping here and there. A few awake just watching tv or chatting. Then the mamasan comes and talks to you. She asks if you want to go upstairs to the special massage area. I said yes and she told me the price. It's 4200 NT $ for everything. I misunderstood that it was the price for the special massage, but it is the out the door price when you go check out at the end of your visit. I don't know how much the sauna part cost, but I think it's around 700, so 3500 nt $ for a special massage is a little bit steep. It was definitely worth it though, I got a good rim job, BBBJ, CFS in multiple positions with a mid 30's big titty chick. Not bad. Would I repeat? Everyday if it was cheaper. But at this I'll just splurge every once in a while.[/QUOTE]Which parking do you use? I wasn't aware there is one in the building.

[QUOTE=Teltel;3004366]Rimming with handjob is called rusty trombone.

Teltel.[/QUOTE]Haha, yes! I love me some rusty trombone!

[QUOTE=WillyTp;3004545]Which parking do you use? I wasn't aware there is one in the building.[/QUOTE]The entrance to the underground parking garage is to the right of the Illume Hotel, the round building.

I've been reading this post in preparation for my short 3 night trip. Thanks to all your posts, I figured I should walk down to the market area after checking in to my hotel.

I went up Xichang St entering from Guangzhou. About 50 meters up on the right side there were a bunch of young women there with an old buzz cut uncle talking to potential customers. I walked past them looking for more options, but there weren't any better ones. I went back and asked him if any girl spoke English. He grabbed two of them, both Thai I think, and naturally I chose the bustier one.

Walked down to the back of the apartment into a tiny room. Off came her clothes and was offered a shower. I declined since I did before coming and she laid me down on the bed. The girl I chose was short about 5' with an awesome back tattoo. We did some chit chat and started the deed. She laid me down and cleaned my little head with some wet wipes, put on a cover and went to town with her mouth. A couple positions later and it was over in a few minutes. For 1500 Twd, that was the best 8 minutes of my life! The only thing I could get for that price at home is get told to get the fuck out!

Again thanks all for your posts and I hope to try out Caesars if I get the time.

[QUOTE=SaigonSammy;3004163]That's a bummer. Is this 193 or 206? I've never been to either but they were on my list.[/QUOTE]193. Will try 206 soon.

Have been trying some of the other massage parlors in that area, as my regular has moved back to Vietnam.

So far nothing really stands out as impressive, prices range from 1-2 K for HJ depending on the girl and how much she thinks they can get away with.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;3005798]193. Will try 206 soon.

Have been trying some of the other massage parlors in that area, as my regular has moved back to Vietnam.

So far nothing really stands out as impressive, prices range from 1-2 K for HJ depending on the girl and how much she thinks they can get away with.[/QUOTE]I've been to 193 many times. I think it depends on which girl you pick.

I usually have good experiences and repeat with the same girl.

I usually pay 500-1000 and they seem really happy with that.

I assume this is a long shot, but anyone have a good recommendation for Banqiao?

Anything really, I'm new to this area (work) and don't have a clue of there's any action to be found here.

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;3006087]I've been to 193 many times. I think it depends on which girl you pick.

I usually have good experiences and repeat with the same girl.

I usually pay 500-1000 and they seem really happy with that.[/QUOTE]Definately. With most of these places it's really luck of the draw what girl you get. If I get a good one, I just ask for her Line for future visits.

So two nights in a row I traveled down to Jilin Rd. I went to check out, what I thought was 206, but I forgot the number and walked passed it and arrived near 202. As I peaked inside, the mamasan waved me in so I went in. There was a pretty girl sitting in the front receptionist desk with the mamasan, but as I was changing my shoes for the slippers another chick came out. She was decent, maybe mid 30's on a very small frame which made her look a little younger. Anyways, I am offered the shower and a get a decent massage. Then she turns me over and tells me it's 500 for the tug, I agree and bust one of the biggest loads into her hands.

The next night I go to 193. After I changed my shoes, I was shown the stairs and mamasan yelled at some chick. She came to the stairs to get me and she was definitely older than the mamasan. I had an awful massage where she used her elbows and felt like she was trying to kill me. It was one of my worst massages ever. She offered a BJ for 2000. I was like hell no. Negotiated a BJ and HJ for 1000. I know it was way too much and I really should have just walked out. I feel disgusting now, I feel like I got a BJ from my grandma. Ugh.

[QUOTE=SaigonSammy;3008410]So two nights in a row I traveled down to Jilin Rd. I went to check out, what I thought was 206, but I forgot the number and walked passed it and arrived near 202. As I peaked inside, the mamasan waved me in so I went in. There was a pretty girl sitting in the front receptionist desk with the mamasan, but as I was changing my shoes for the slippers another chick came out. She was decent, maybe mid 30's on a very small frame which made her look a little younger. Anyways, I am offered the shower and a get a decent massage. Then she turns me over and tells me it's 500 for the tug, I agree and bust one of the biggest loads into her hands.

The next night I go to 193. After I changed my shoes, I was shown the stairs and mamasan yelled at some chick. She came to the stairs to get me and she was definitely older than the mamasan. I had an awful massage where she used her elbows and felt like she was trying to kill me. It was one of my worst massages ever. She offered a BJ for 2000. I was like hell no. Negotiated a BJ and HJ for 1000. I know it was way too much and I really should have just walked out. I feel disgusting now, I feel like I got a BJ from my grandma. Ugh.[/QUOTE]I don't know if she's still there, but try #22. She's younger with big breasts.

When you meet the mamasan, on the desk there is a QR code. Take a pic and add them to your Line app.

They will send you a pics of all the girls and their #. It takes about 24 hours before they send you the pics.

If you see a girl you like, call ahead and make an appointment with the # you like.

Make sure you tell the girl in advance you want 1 hour. If you finish early, they are used to guys leaving.

If you didn't go to 206, which number did you go?

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;3008824]If you didn't go to 206, which number did you go?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I went to 202. Not a bad place for just an ole rub and tug.

OK boys, I headed out to the famous Tian Long Spa for the first time, and it was not good. Honestly I'm embarrassed I even paid money for the experience. Let me say I live in Taiwan (outside Taipei) but I do all my mongering in SE Asia where the level of service is well established. In Taiwan I can just date normal girls (which has it's own set of frustrations but that is a report for another day.)

Tldl: The spa facilities and service itself is actually really good, and everything is run very professionally. But the ladies they had on offer for the special massage made it really unattractive. Of course I know the reputation of both TL and Ceaser to have MILFs and grandmothers working there but I had read enough positive reports to think it might be OK.

Here is the rundown: I went between 7 and 8 pm on a Sunday, and the place was already slightly busy, but not packed. Jumping ahead to the special massage, the mamasan showed me a list of numbers but I didn't have any in mind. I confirmed with the mamasan that I could change but I didn't ask how many times. I'm sure if there are girls they are grabbed up unless it's a dead time of day.

Once in the massage room, a lady comes in right away. She was 50's+ and dressed like a stereotypical hooker. I asked to change. Two or three minutes later, someone who could have been her mom comes in. I asked to change. A few minutes later a third one comes in, younger but still older than me. Not attractive but in the dim light she was passable. I'd guess late 40's or way more, it was hard to tell. I didn't know how many changes I could do, so I said yes. I guess I was thinking after a few changes they might send a hot MILF but I had no such luck. (You can spend a day around Taipei and see plenty of Taiwanese MILFs pushing 50 who are objectively attractive, so it's totally possible, but obviously these are trophy wives of rich guys, not someone who would be working in the industry.).

The first phase of the massage was mechanical. All elbows and rolling with the forearm, which is not the kind of relaxation I want before getting my rocks off but it was the typical Chinese style massage. Then she leaves and comes back with the special massage kit. She strips and starts very soft tickling and touching, this part was actually really nice. I could have gone with just that and a HJ and been happy actually. Then she did a tongue bath, which was awkward, she went to start rimming, and I stopped her because that's not my thing. Next I flipped over and she continued with a BJ, but I realized she had magically put on a rubber with such good technique that I didn't even notice. She clearly had well developed skills. But at this point I just wanted it to be over. I noticed she had a huge see-section scar on her stomach, one of the largest I'd ever seen. I stopped her from the BJ and was about to try to get her to finish me with a uncovered HJ, but in one motion she hopped on the table and took me inside her, and rode me until I nearly instantly finished. I kept my eyes closed because I didn't want the visual memory. In the last phase she continued with a massage but it was the same type of hard style massage, which was the last thing I wanted at that point. I was just laying there thinking about the bliss of massage places in Vietnam or Thailand where they will continue with a relaxing sensual massage after you bust a nut. She was really caring, helping me get dressed and stuff, but clearly their service is for a different type of clientele. Oh and the whole time you could hear all kinds of noises coming from the other rooms, which was hilarious.

When I left after 10, there was even more people coming in. Not just old guys, there were a few guys that were maybe in their 20's and 30's. I walked around the facilities and realized it's a pretty comfortable place. If you had a early flight where you needed to be at the airport at like 430 am before the airport metro was running, it would not be a bad spot to get some sleep before taking the overnight bus that runs between Main Station and the airport.

I just wish they had some younger girls. Do any of you guys have any numbers of girls that are recommendable? Otherwise I'll definitely not be back there for mongering and will try the small spas with Viets and Thais when in need. The reputation that Taiwanese working girls are all grandmas still stands for me.

Total damage 4500, which could have paid for a cheap flight to Bangkok.

I spent an entire week at taipei and decided to take mongering trip to longshan temple area. The first night I reached about midnight and the xichang street was deserted and there were cops with some girls. I walked around to the intersection on guilin road and saw some SW there but I was little intimidated. Also the police station is right at the crossing. On the Xiyuan road there were some oldish sw which were not very appealing.

Next day I went around 6 pm and Xichang was the most happening place. On one side you have a kind of brothel area where the ladies are sitting outside and a man is enticing the customers. I chose a Vietnamese who could speak some English. She was quite hot. Gave me a BBJ and 1 shot. 2 k. I could have made her my keep for the rest of the trip. Here the room are individual and much cleaner. This is towards the karaoke bar somewhat in the centre point of the road.

Some time later after making some sightseeing I walked on the opposite side of the road where I found a cute early 20 or teen Thai girl. She took me upstairs to a room with curtains and different beds. It was a like a German FKK! Curtains closed. Condom BJ and sex. Another 2 k and I was drained.

Overall I wanted a Taiwanese girl. They are so hot and pretty. The best south east Asians amongst the lot. But could not find any WG.

Cheers.

Curious what the going rate for a HJ at the MPs are these days. Seems to be still 500-1000 NTD? Some girls allow touch, other will only do touch for 2000 NTD total.

And then you can get FS as well from 1000-3000 NTD depending on the girl.

[QUOTE=Bigfist;2962792]Hey bro, I was under the impression that this website was for "tea delivery" I. E. Outcall, did you have the option to go to your hotel or was the only option to go to the shithole building?[/QUOTE]Location of service is either Fixed (provider has a room) or Delivery (you organise a place eg: hotel, Wego or local love short time hotel).

Hi all, I have an opportunity to visit Taiwan in the future and while it's not solely for the purposes of P2 P, I would not say no to partaking. Having read this thread since COVID lockdown eased up, it sounds like there are 2 popular spas and one main FL area. However, I have some personal preference that are non-neogtiable, and was wondering how likely I can get them here in Taipei.

BJ cannot be covered, and bonus points for girls open to bb (either free or as an upgrade).

No MILFs and definitely no grannies / aunties (upper limit ealry 30's).

I can speak passable Mandarin so talking and texting not a problem.

Not looking for 20 minutes of wham bam thank you ma'am.

[QUOTE=Teltel;3004366]Rimming with handjob is called rusty trombone.

Teltel.[/QUOTE]Isn't it actually bareback anal followed by BJ?

I occasionally see ads on IG that are clearly for in-call naughty massages girls, but obviously they don't say anything overtly. Once you click on one or two, you get flooded with quite a few more. Clicking on them directs you to their Line contact. They are either for MPs with multiple girls on the menu (and they only list legit services but it's clear from the branding what it is), or for FL girls that usually have their own "private studio". Some look too dodgy with fake pics, others look the part of just being real FL girls to the point where I have added a few. Most don't show their face. Usually they are in Taipei or Taichung. I can expect that many are bait and switch, or agencies fronting multiple accounts posing as individual FLs with some scams sprinkled in but I have never tried to partake.

Has anyone tried or have any experiences to share?