Puerto Plata

[QUOTE=Isc55; 1390973]Answers to your questions :

1- Pics perhaps are not "deceiving" but always are a picture that is not exactly what you found.

2- After reading a lot of different opinions about BB and FOD I wanted to see FOD and so to get my own opinion. For my third trip I decided to come back to BB to confirm my opinion about it and also to meet some girls I loved in my first trip.

I find very intelligent you want to compare both resorts by yourself (it is exactly what I did!) [/QUOTE]Hi Isc55,

"I find very intelligent you want to compare both resorts by yourself ". Not entirely true.

If I wasn't banned from BB, I would have simply returned to BB, because it worked ok. Just because some of the girls got out of line. 7 out of 10 chicas did good for me, and that's still a passing grade. In fact I should say 8 of 10. So what; the first girl left early. Big deal. Who gives a damn, she was still a good F.

If I went back to BB the second time. I'm sure it would have been better.

I can easily become a regular, a repeat customer providing all goes well, ease of getting there and back, easy on the wallet, etc. And not be interested in going anywhere else.

Perhaps not a good thing either; because of what I'm reading across the board here, I'd be missing out on the rest of DR. So like someone PM'ed me the other day," BB did you a favor!".

Basically I was inquiring what resorts are similiar to BB, Because I liked how BB is structered.

If I ever go to FOD, I will probably post comments how good FOD was, but not to do a comparison report.

Thanks again, much appreciate it.

Lapper

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1389329]Went past today and saw their new logo on the gate. It is linked "C"s above a large crystal. I wrongly assumed that the place was now under the same management at Cristals, but it seems that they are just cashing in on the name, like when those dumbasses re-opened Field of Dreams as "Whitebeards".

Might take out a second mortgage and invest in a bottle of water there just to scope the place out. I bet there are no haitianas there so I wouldn't patronize the place even if I could afford it.[/QUOTE]The cab drivers have cards with the girls on them, I think the manager is an ex-cabbie or cab boss. Well I took one, well didn't learn my lesson, took two for the team. Girls are stellar looking but the price to get them out is 5700 and and this was late. But the worst part the girls have rules, rules, and more rules. Definitively will not return until I hear they have the service straightened out. Promised, told no problem, a morning session was in play...eeennnnttt...wrong answer, didnt get that. I complained about the service and told him if he gets a bad rep he can forget it. Also the girls live there and I have always found that can create problems. No way this place makes it unless they change big time.

Its been almost 3 yrs but I'm finally making my way back. Unfortunately I'm flyin into Santo Domingo, so I'm going to have to do the caribe bus thing, unless someone on here is doing the same. I'm arriving Apr 4 and stayin at Blackbeards for 3 days and then Sosua for 2 and then back to Santo Domingo. I'm so happy to get away from the states for a while that I could care less about a long bus ride; however if anyone is travelling the same time, fill me in on what your doing.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;1393367]Its been almost 3 yrs but I'm finally makin my way back. Unfortunately I'm flyin into santo domingo, so I'm going to have to do the caribe bus thing, unless someone on here is doing the same. I'm arriving Apr 4 and stayin at blackbeards for 3 days and then sosua for 2 and then back to santo domingo. I'm so happy to get away from the states for a while that I could care less about a long bus ride; however if anyone is travelling the same time, fill me in on what your doing.[/QUOTE]I am flying into SDQ on April 5th and driving to PP on the 6th. Looks like we miss each other by a day. I will be returning to SDQ on the 12th if that fits your plans in any way. Maybe I can help you on your transportation from BB to Sosua since I usually make day trips to Sosua when staying at BB. Maybe save you some cab fare.

Look for a pasty white guy going by the name Geraldo.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1388595]You are fortunate that Field of Dreams is only 15 minutes slow and safe walk from your hotel. They have putas and short-time rooms available.[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone who responded to my post. It does sound like FOD is my best bet although I'll need a cab from the Be-live for my bid for monger freedom, albiet it a short one.

I really appreciate the map. Very helpful in putting things in perspective. I did make a mistake in my location (thanks to a well meaning friend who "knew the area") but google maps and ISG are my friends and I should have checked them both a little better before posting.

Just a note about my preference for amateurs over pros. In my limited experience here in the states, seasoned pro's are very mechanical and not much better than blow up dolls whereas amateurs seem to be more GFE and girl next door. This was mainly my experience in the Philippines as well. Anyhow, I'll report back on my experience. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker; 1393411]I am flying into SDQ on April 5th and driving to PP on the 6th. Looks like we miss each other by a day. I will be returning to SDQ on the 12th if that fits your plans in any way. Maybe I can help you on your transportation from BB to Sosua since I usually make day trips to Sosua when staying at BB. Maybe save you some cab fare.

Look for a pasty white guy going by the name Geraldo.[/QUOTE]I will do exactly that. I will be the black guy sometimes wearing a cardinals baseball cap. I love to sit at the bar, sip Hennessey and smoke cigars (maybe they will find cubans this time). My flight gets to SDQ really early so that should allow me plenty time to get to BB's.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;1393367]Its been almost 3 yrs but I'm finally makin my way back. Unfortunately I'm flyin into santo domingo, so I'm going to have to do the caribe bus thing, unless someone on here is doing the same. I'm arriving Apr 4 and stayin at blackbeards for 3 days and then sosua for 2 and then back to santo domingo. I'm so happy to get away from the states for a while that I could care less about a long bus ride; however if anyone is travelling the same time, fill me in on what your doing.[/QUOTE]You know you could do the open jaw ticket thing. Come in one city and go out another to save on the bus trip back.

Is there good baseball in Puerto Plato or SD going on now.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1396399]Is there good baseball in Puerto Plato or SD going on now.[/QUOTE]There is never senior level baseball in Pto Pta. Just local teams and a lot of softball. Funny, because the baseball stadium is the most prominent landmark in the city (as far as giving directions).

I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?

[QUOTE=Mackin;1399798]I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?[/QUOTE]Not true. The girls are required to attend "seminars" at BB's put on by the health dept. And they strongly encourage the girls to practice CBJ. Most girls know that their income will be adversely affected by giving CBJ so most give BBBJ but my experience has been about 20% won't do it. Best to ask the girl before agreeing to go to the room.

[QUOTE=Mackin;1399798]I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?[/QUOTE]I spent a week at BB in mid-Feb and all the girls I took did BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Husker Dude;1399823]I spent a week at BB in mid-Feb and all the girls I took did BBBJ.[/QUOTE]If they mostly didn't the place would soon close down. Too much competition not to.

Thanks for response guys.

[QUOTE=Mackin;1399798]I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?[/QUOTE]All the girls I had at BB did BBBJ and a few did BBBJTCWS. Depends on girl. If they see or hear from others that you're a tipper, they usually go all the way.

My experience at BB's has taught me that girls are far more willing to give a BBBJ if; you are clean and treat them well. As previously stated ask before you seal the deal.

Newbie here, considering these resorts, and mainly, Blackbeard (BB).

Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent.)?

Considering a short 3 night trip.

Tip wise, what is the norm of a good tip?

15% of the cost of food, beverage, companionship, and so forth?

For example, if something cost 3000 pesos, should I be tipping like 450 pesos?

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=DBoyyy; 1402082]Newbie here, considering these resorts, and mainly, Blackbeard (BB).

Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent.)?

Considering a short 3 night trip.

Tip wise, what is the norm of a good tip?

15% of the cost of food, beverage, companionship, and so forth?

For example, if something cost 3000 pesos, should I be tipping like 450 pesos?

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]No reason to tip for a chica's services, unless she takes it in the brown or sucks your balls through her nose.
Unless you get a spectacular performance, no need to tip more than a small amount.
Dominicans NEVER tip for a taxi or a chica's performance, when in Rome do as ....

[QUOTE=DBoyyy; 1402082]Newbie here, considering these resorts, and mainly, Blackbeard (BB).

Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent.)?

Considering a short 3 night trip.

Tip wise, what is the norm of a good tip?

15% of the cost of food, beverage, companionship, and so forth?

For example, if something cost 3000 pesos, should I be tipping like 450 pesos?

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]At BB if you charge to your room a 10% tip is included in the charge. My understanding is this is distributed to the staff (cooks / cleaning) and sometimes the bar staff. The bar staff has indicated to me that they do not always share in the 10% collected on charges. The bar staff has a propina bucket on the bar if you are inclined to tip.

If the service is good I usually tip 100 pesos to the girls.

My understanding is that tipping is not expected in the DR.

[QUOTE=DBoyyy;1402082]Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent)?[/QUOTE]Many would say so, and I wouldn't disagree. But if it were that simple this board wouldn't contain tens of thousands of posts on many different mongering locations, each with their passionate supporters and detractors. Everyone would just trot along to Blackbeards like sheep.

Try reading the board and forming your own judgment.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1402200]No reason to tip for a chica's services, unless she takes it in the brown or sucks your balls through her nose.

Unless you get a spectacular performance, no need to tip more than a small amount.

Dominicans NEVER tip for a taxi or a chica's performance, when in Rome do as.[/QUOTE]Tipping is not practiced for the most part in the DR. Some visitors (mostly Americans since we are the country where tipping is standard) are doing their best to start a new trend.

My recommendation is with taxis and restaurants, just round up to the next bill that you have. With chicas, only tip if you get exceptional service, I. E. Anal and / or swallowing.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1402302]Many would say so, and I wouldn't disagree. But if it were that simple this board wouldn't contain tens of thousands of posts on many different mongering locations, each with their passionate supporters and detractors. Everyone would just trot along to Blackbeards like sheep.

Try reading the board and forming your own judgment.[/QUOTE]Mind providing some suggestions?

Never gone on a trip such as this, so I'm trying to find the best resort / area to go sex crazed for a couple of nights.

I'm also considering FOD, but right now I only know a handful of places.

It would be great if there was a listing of all the places such as FOD and BB in DR, so I can check out their site and assess the costs, facilities, etc.

If you search back on this thread you will see many many reports written that compare both FOD and BB's. The bottom line in all of this is you will have a great experience at either place for three days. Three days will be to short of a time for you to be bored. If you want more specific information I am sure you can just PM one of us and we will help you.

My first adventure in any country was in the DR and at BB's. I (like many others) was like a deer in the headlights with all of the girls to pick from. I never had the same girl twice in 6 days unless she was part of a threesome. It was like being addicted I just could not stop or have enough.

You can not go wrong for your first trip at either place.

[QUOTE=DBoyyy; 1402351]Never gone on a trip such as this, so I'm trying to find the best resort / area to go sex crazed for a couple of nights.

I'm also considering FOD, but right now I only know a handful of places.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you are coming from but I assume North America. If you are only coming for three days / two nights your travel costs spread over such a short time mean that you will already be paying an awful lot per day. In that respect staying at Oxygen makes more sense for you than it might for those staying longer, but is still not good value in my opinion.

If a guy is coming for four weeks (which when I used to travel here was the minimum I would consider to be an acceptable holiday) he can afford to ease himself in gradually and have the odd day's rest from sex doing touristy stuff.

But for what you are paying per day you will want to start banging chicas within an hour of arrival and not stop until you leave for the airport on the third (?) day. You don't have time to learn the ropes in Sosua. You will want everything served up immediately without hassle.

Blackbeards is the best venue for you. Safe, no need for any Spanish (though always more fun if you do speak the language) , and the small premium you will pay there for AI service is trivial considering what you are paying per day in travel costs.

Field of Dreams would be my second choice. If you were considering Oxygen you are obviously awash with cash so you could take girls out of Cristal back to Field of Dreams for the night.

But really Blackbeards is the obvious spot for you. You could have a wild time there for far less than you were prepared to spend at Oxygen.

There are other places but they come and go. None of them have the reputation that Blackbeards has earned over eight years of consistency. The only frequent complaint about Blackbeards is that you can get bored there, but with only two or three nights that won't happen to you. I guarantee you will be depressed as hell when it is time to leave and will wish you were staying on for another week (two weeks.).

Does anybody know where the infamous Yohanni is plying her trade since leaving BB's? I am planning a trip to the North coast with a couple wingmen and one of them wants to hook up with her.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1402599]Does anybody know where the infamous Yohanni is plying her trade since leaving BB's? I am planning a trip to the North coast with a couple wingmen and one of them wants to hook up with her.[/QUOTE]Try the Hogar de Ancianos in Puerto Plata.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1402601]Try the Hogar de Ancianos in Puerto Plata.[/QUOTE]I guess she retired young.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1402610]I guess she retired young.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1402601]Try the Hogar de Ancianos in Puerto Plata.[/QUOTE]Thanks, you guys are fucking awesome. Frannie, she probably made five times more money in the last ten years than you and Pooter combined. This forum's gone to shit.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1402617]Frannie, she probably made five times more money in the last ten years than you and Pooter combined.[/QUOTE]So has Donald Trump, but I wouldn't want him sucking my dick, either. I think the key words here are "ten years".

Seriously, if I see her around or hear of her, I will PM you.

Thanks for all the help guys! It is very much appreciated!

Another question for you veterans of the DR experience.

In terms of "looks", which resort has the best looking girls?

I understand the girls come and go, and there won't be a clear cut empirical answer,

But in your personal opinions, influenced by your multiple visits to various resorts and places, where are the best looking girls?

[QUOTE=DBoyyy; 1402742]Thanks for all the help guys! It is very much appreciated!

Another question for you veterans of the DR experience.

In terms of "looks", which resort has the best looking girls?

I understand the girls come and go, and there won't be a clear cut empirical answer,

But in your personal opinions, influenced by your multiple visits to various resorts and places, where are the best looking girls?[/QUOTE]Take Mr. Pooter's advice and go to BB. Perfect if you like dark skinned girls. Also talk to mamasan if you want a specific characteristics in a chica and she will recommend a girl. Saving you a hit or miss. Generally you will not be disappointed with BB especially if it is your first mongering trip to DR.

If you prefer Caucasian looking girls DR is the wrong country but some girls to be had at Oxygen at higher price.

I personally loved BB on my first trip there but got bored on my 2nd trip there. Since then I stick to Sosua and never even go to BB. Yet BB is your best bet because girls are available round the clock.

I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!

I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).

For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.

I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.

I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.

If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.

I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.

I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.

Thanks, Bob

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010; 1403308]I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!

I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).

For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.

I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.

I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.

If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.

I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.

I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.

Thanks, Bob[/QUOTE]As you can probably guess my vote is for Asia, As far as GFE and price goes I don't think your going to beat the PI and AC. Your right about BB unless you schedule a girl for TLN you will find nothing but the crickets after midnight. I'm like you I'm a night crawler and a major butterfly I like to tast the pollen of four or five women a day before I decide on one to sleep next to and cuddle for the night. That is one thing I did not like about AC the hottest girls get barfined early, I like to flutter from peddle to peddle through out the day and early evening. By two or three in the morning when I'm ready to call it a night and want a girl to hold in my arms while I sleep the best ones are already taken.

Sosua is great but it is a poor man's Angeles City, the scene is really changing with the girls becoming more business oriented and less GFE and prices are slowly starting to creep up. I'm going to be there in a couple weeks and again during the first week of May. So I'll be giving an updated field report but I think you're going to be disappointed if you are expecting to find the sweet little piney type of girls in Sosua who will cuddle up to you for the night and treat you like you are the love of their life.

I have not been to Medellin so I can't speak as to the mongering there. But I will be there at the mansion for the first time this August.

If it's me and I have a week or more I do Asia if I have a four or five day weekend I go to Sosua.

I will be in Thailand for twenty days in June Rio for two weeks in July and Medellin at the mansion for five days in August. If you're interested PM me and I'll give you my exact dates and we can meet up in one of those locations.

Chris

Hi Chris,

I always enjoy reading your posts. Like you, I favor PI and SEA. However, I am planning a trip to DR for the first time in early 2015 (with 3 trips to PI and Vietnam before then).

Is it easy to get to Puerta Plata from Santo Domingo. What type of transportation do you recommend, please?

I will have about ten days in DR and was thinking of splitting it half in SD and half PP. Does this sound like a good plan?

Thanks, much! Hopefully our paths will cross one of these days!

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1403338]As you can probably guess my vote is for Asia, As far as GFE and price goes I don't think your going to beat the PI and AC. Your right about BB unless you schedule a girl for TLN you will find nothing but the crickets after midnight. I'm like you I'm a night crawler and a major butterfly I like to tast the pollen of four or five women a day before I decide on one to sleep next to and cuddle for the night. That is one thing I did not like about AC the hottest girls get barfined early, I like to flutter from peddle to peddle through out the day and early evening. By two or three in the morning when I'm ready to call it a night and want a girl to hold in my arms while I sleep the best ones are already taken.

Sosua is great but it is a poor man's Angeles City, the scene is really changing with the girls becoming more business oriented and less GFE and prices are slowly starting to creep up. I'm going to be there in a couple weeks and again during the first week of May. So I'll be giving an updated field report but I think you're going to be disappointed if you are expecting to find the sweet little piney type of girls in Sosua who will cuddle up to you for the night and treat you like you are the love of their life.

I have not been to Medellin so I can't speak as to the mongering there. But I will be there at the mansion for the first time this August.

If it's me and I have a week or more I do Asia if I have a four or five day weekend I go to Sosua.

I will be in Thailand for twenty days in June Rio for two weeks in July and Medellin at the mansion for five days in August. If you're interested PM me and I'll give you my exact dates and we can meet up in one of those locations.

Chris[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1403500]Hi Chris,

I always enjoy reading your posts. Like you, I favor PI and SEA. However, I am planning a trip to DR for the first time in early 2015 (with 3 trips to PI and Vietnam before then).

Is it easy to get to Puerta Plata from Santo Domingo. What type of transportation do you recommend, please?

I will have about ten days in DR and was thinking of splitting it half in SD and half PP. Does this sound like a good plan?

Thanks, much! Hopefully our paths will cross one of these days![/QUOTE]By Puerto Plata I assume you mean Sosua that is the main mongering local in the DR. Puerto Plata has Black Beards, Field of Dreams as well as Crystals but it doesn't, in my opinion measure up to Sosua. There is a bus that runs from Sosua through Puerto Plata to Santiago and then to Santo Domingo. I've only taken it as far as Santiago but many others have taken it to and from Santo Domingo, its clean, safe, air conditioned and inexpensive.

Personally I think after your trips to SEA the DR may be a bit of a disappointment. The DR is real and its fun, but it isn't real fun, it is however one of the best places in the western hemisphere for mongering.

Spending time in Santo Domingo depends upon what your purpose of going to the DR is for. If it's just mongering then spending half of your time in Santo Domingo will be a disappointment. Mongering is available in SD but it's not the point and click in your face availability that Sosua is and it is more spread out, it will require you renting a car or high ring a driver, and drivers in Santo Domingo are a barrel of sneaks, having a driver take you to a casa will generally mean you also have to pay a commission for him taking you there.

Personally I would spend ten days in SEA and only spend a four or five day weekend in Sosua. But if you want to spend ten days in the DR and want to see both Sosua and Santo Domingo, I would fly into Santo Domingo and spend the first night and day there and then take the bus to Sosua spend the majority of my time there and then take the bus back to Santo Domingo for the last day or two.

Hope this helps; there are many others here who will also be able to give you their advice and insight into the mongering scene in the DR. Remember everyone for whatever reason has their favorite place in the world for mongering and their views may be tainted by their likes. I personally am crazy about Asian mongering where as some guys don't like Asia mongering because they're not attracted to the women there. Other guys still swear by Costa Rica and I think Costa Rica is beyond recovery.

Take care, have fun and remember to write up a report.

Chris

it's very easy to take the bus from sosua / pp to santo domingo or in the other direction. metro takes about 4 hours and it's very comfortable (though they really crank the ac so don't wear shorts). caribe also has service but i think it takes a bit longer and isn't as convenient for leaving from / coming to sosua.

unless you're into other big-city activities (clubbing, dancing, gambling, et al) 2 nights is enough for santo domingo. it's not a typical vacation destination. there aren't even beaches, though you can take a walk on the malecon. otoh sosua is very much a vacation place with beaches, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url], bars, and chicas all within walking distance.

you could also fly into s. domingo and fly out of p. plata or santiago. i've done this "open-jaw" trip a few times.

thank you very much, combo and chris! you guys are great!

happy mongering!

[quote=combo; 1404064]it's very easy to take the bus from sosua / pp to santo domingo or in the other direction. metro takes about 4 hours and it's very comfortable (though they really crank the ac so don't wear shorts). caribe also has service but i think it takes a bit longer and isn't as convenient for leaving from / coming to sosua.

unless you're into other big-city activities (clubbing, dancing, gambling, et al) 2 nights is enough for santo domingo. it's not a typical vacation destination. there aren't even beaches, though you can take a walk on the malecon. otoh sosua is very much a vacation place with beaches, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url], bars, and chicas all within walking distance.

you could also fly into s. domingo and fly out of p. plata or santiago. i've done this "open-jaw" trip a few times.[/quote]

Trip report, where to start?

I just got back from a three week trip to the DR. This was WAY LONGER than I ever wanted to stay in the DR at one time, but the purpose of this trip was to take advantage of 'medical tourism' (or more precisely 'dental tourism') and three weeks was necessary to complete the procedures. The partaking of the chicas along the way was a phenomenal side benefit of the trip. I had all the work done in a clinic in the DR, and with including airfare, hotel, food, transportation and paying for the dental work, I saved a couple thousand dollars over what I was quoted to have the work done in the US. I am extremely satisfied with the outcome and I had a trip I will never forget.

I have been to the DR close to 20 times since late 2006. Over the years I did the novia thing (yes, I was Western Union novio for a bit of time –no more, learned my lesson here) , hit Sosua, BBs and Santiago, but mostly I spent my time on the North Coast. My personal preference in punting is that I like being a spoon fed monger and although I break things up by occasionally visiting Sosua, I like the 'point and click' atmosphere of a place like BBs. This trip I had a lot of time on my hands, I thought I would explore a bit and broaden my horizons in several areas. I decided not to rent a car for my entire trip and I thought this was a good opportunity to try different modes of transport available here.

With this much time on my hands, I knew I could not do my entire stay at BBs. I knew I would get claustrophobic if I did. I also saw this as an opportunity to get a firsthand comparison of BBs to FOD. I booked about a week at BBs and another at FOD. I left things up in the air from there. Let me preface things here by saying I am not a shill for either place, I just am giving you my opinion.

BBs. They were the first DR establishment I visited in 2006. The place was nice back then, but I will tell you John has done nothing but try to improve the place since he bought it. His latest improvements have brought the hotel to an upper mid-level hotel by US standards. They finally have consistent HOT WATER! Nice A / C, very clean rooms and Wi-Fi available in my rooms (all total I had 3 rooms).20 plus girls are available in the afternoon shift and 25-35 chicas in the evening. The evening shift dresses up to the nines and there were a lot of 'doable' chicas available from noon on. The food has improved over the years and I am seeing more locals stopping by to eat as a testament to the improvement. Food prices for dinner average $8-$10. Tim, Cliff and Martha kept the place running smoothly without John being present my entire stay. I got 40. 9 pesos / US dollar from Jenny's and I made use of the local pharmacy and Solo Mia's restaurant. I also took one chica out to Los Tres Coco's in La Roka, a great restaurant 10 minutes from Costambar. When I first started travelling to the DR I got 33 pesos / US dollar and BBs chica rates were 1300 ST / 2500 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively) , today it is 1600 ST / 3000 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively). For the most part, BBs runs like a well-oiled machine. It was a lot rougher around the edges when I first started my travels there.

My biggest complaint, if you want to call it that, is the Costambar Taxi Mafia prices. Once you get to know your way around the DR and how cheap things are, you hate it when you know you are being gouged by paying 'gringo prices'. A Costambar mafia taxi to Puerto Plata clinic was 800 pesos ($20) , PP taxi back to BBS was $10. Motoconcho BBs to PP clinic 300 pesos ($7. 50) , PP motochoncho back to BBs. 75 to 100 pesos (about $2 to $2. 50)

FOD. The hotel itself is set up well. The grounds are manicured and the rooms are clean. The murals of hand painted, half naked women on every flat wall does creep me out, but some of the guys I talked to down there liked the hand crafted aspect of it. To each his own I guess. Jeffrey, Jamie and Pedro run the place. Neecko the Romanian bartender is a hoot and one of the biggest assets of FOD. FOD is completely surrounded by high walls and it sits alone, surrounded by a large field, across from the service entrance to Playa Dorada. Although this hotel is closer to PP and the airport than BBs, you can't get anywhere worthwhile by walking. One afternoon I took a 10 minute walk straight toward the sea cutting through Playa Dorada and I was told I could not use the beach because they were all private. On my walk there and back, Playa Dorada was a ghost town. Playa Dorada ain't what it used to be.

With FOD being somewhat isolated, having high walls and its close proximity to Playa Dorada has some advantages. For those people staying across the street in Playa Dorada, girls are available throughout the day; they can rent a room for a quickie and bypass the hassle and price of Crystals. I ran into another advantage while I was at FOD, there was a crew of guys throwing a semi-private party and it started to get a bit wild. At one point I saw one guy lying on the pool table getting a blow job from one of the chicas in full view of everyone. You won't see that at BBs. Being in a residential community, BBs does not allow nudity in any public areas. Obviously that situation doesn't bother FOD. They can also really crank up the music at night, something FOD can get away with vs. BBs having neighbors close by.

FODs location provides disadvantages in that if you want to do most anything off site, change money, get food, buy Cialis, anything else, you need to catch a ride. I was able to turn this disadvantage into a plus as I finally learned how to use the gua-gua's (local public transport). I caught the gua-gua in front of FOD for a 25 minute ride to Sosua for 100 pesos each way. It cost 30 pesos to catch a ride to the Puerto Plata clinic. Yes, you are stuffed in either a Toyota Corolla with 7 other Dominicans or a minivan with 19 of your closest friends, but really it is an experience and it is safe.

From my point of view, FOD is a nice place for a short stay, one, no more than two nights. The place reminds me a lot of how BBs used to be a long time ago. They have not worked out all the kinks. All the drama of the place works out in front of you if you stay there for any length of time. Jamie runs around like a chicken with his head cut off handling the problem of the moment. Rules are made up and broken on the spot by Jamie and Pedro. Maria is supposed to be the Mamason, but then Pedro says he is the Papason. The girls seem to playing the guys all the time. Jamie takes a chica of his choice to his room every night for the privilege of the chica keeping her job. Pedro jokes that he (Jamie) is 'quality control' for the chicas. The lunch and dinner plates are more expensive than BBs. Their menu is more limited and they don't have all the items listed on it. One night I asked for lasagna ('sorry, we are out') , then the pork steak from their signature dishes page ('sorry, we are out') , before settling on the bacon cheeseburger (that is one of their best selections).

Some of these comparisons / observations may be knit-picky, but here goes. When I first arrived, I had to get the girl who checked me in to fix things in my room so my TV would turn on, so my toilet would flush (it was plugged up) and show me how to turn on the air conditioner. It turns out the air conditioner in my room has a wall switch that turns it on or off, with no temperature control available. When I turned it on to go to bed at night, it would wake me up at about 4 am as it got too cold, it had iced up and was making that fan blade hitting ice noise. Even on a cool morning I still had to turn on the air conditioner when my room got stuffy, as there is only one window and no cross ventilation in my room. Not every room has a mini-fridge, which I miss a lot, especially if I get thirsty in the middle of the night. They have no clear cut ways to use the 'house phone' and you kind of have to muddle through it all yourself. Nowhere was I told or was it written that the chicas have an agreed to price of 1600 and 3000, just like BBs, but you can negotiate if you want to. No matter where you go, chica quality is always up for personal taste, as well as 'luck of the draw', but I was there for over a week and although there were always 10 to 20 chicas available, but to my taste, there were really only about 4 or five chicas that were 'doable'. The girls seem a lot 'hungrier' than BBs and I found myself locked in my room at times to keep from being pestered by the chicas for a date when I wanted to be left alone. This 'hunger' is a double edged sword as those few chicas I did choose to be with gave me a very high level of service. I like having ambient lighting while I am doing the deed with my chica, and BBs has small lamps off to the side that are perfect for that. At FOD their only lighting was the main overhead lights and I just didn't like the atmosphere it created (again, some of this may be knit-picky).

I realize this may sound like an advert for BBs, and in a way I guess it is. Really I am glad there is a place like FOD out there as it creates some competition for BBs and competition is a good thing. I wonder how long it would have been for BBs to get flat screen TVs had it not been for FOD? FOD reminds me a lot of BBs from years ago, but a bit more disorganized. It is going to take FOD a while to get things down pat and to find its niche. FOD is not BBs 'lite', nor should it be. Since I have been going down to the DR I have seen FOD change hands too many times, but I really think this time they have a chance to make it work. If for no other reason than Playa Dorada no longer has the pull that it used to.

PS: I have purposefully stayed off the boards and away from the punting community for a few years now. Life circumstances have pushed me out of the workforce and into an early retirement, thus causing a dramatic shift in my punting priorities / opportunities. Right or wrong, I chose not to communicate with even good friends over the years from the board as I dealt (and am dealing) with these changes. It was just too hard to juggle real life with my fantasy (mongering) life. My apologies to those I have intentionally ignored (you know who you are). I am only rejoining the conversation here on ISG as I have again been able to partake in our shared hobby on a limited basis and I have a few observations I thought I should share with the board. 'Nuff said on that subject.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]Trip report, where to start?[/QUOTE]Good report. I've been meaning to stop by FOD sometime for a drink when I'm up that way. Never stayed at either place but it's nice to know that both are improving. I still have a 2007 email from William Lane talking about FOD becoming "Cristal Mustang Ranch Resort" so I know what you mean about its ups and downs.

Welcome back Ponderosa, you have been missed. Great reporting also. Its funny but I sent FOD an email two weeks ago and still haven't received a response, oh well.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1404484]Welcome back Ponderosa, you have been missed. Great reporting also. Its funny but I sent FOD an email two weeks ago and still haven't received a response, oh well.[/QUOTE]I would try them again Gogo, I sent one to them last week and got a response within a couple hours.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1404707]I would try them again Gogo, I sent one to them last week and got a response within a couple hours.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mani but I've already made other plans for my Memorial day weekend in the DR. Maybe I will give them a try in the future.

Great post, Ponderosa, and good to welcome back, if only for a "guest star" appearance, one of our most sensible and informative posters.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]For the most part, BBs runs like a well-oiled machine. It was a lot rougher around the edges when I first started my travels there.[/QUOTE]We are all in danger of taking Blackbeards for granted. Boy, we would miss it if it ever closed down, and mongering facilities have a habit of doing that. It's not for everyone, but it is the best at what it does for those who want that type of service, and all at a fair price. And the best introduction to mongering in the DR for nervous newbies without Spanish like I once was.

There is a thread in progress on D R 1 about the decline of Playa Dorada, and Puerto Plata generally, as a tourist destination. One of the more sensible suggestions was that they ask John of BB what they need to do, because he runs rings round them all (local politicians and hoteliers) when it comes to customer service and value for money.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]FOD. The murals of hand painted, half naked women on every flat wall does creep me out, but some of the guys I talked to down there liked the hand crafted aspect of it. To each his own I guess.[/QUOTE]You have the advantage of me. I have yet to meet anyone who did not dislike them. More importantly, as one of FoD's few advantages over Blackbeards is that it is a better place to take semi-pros and non-pros back to, they are deterrent to potential clients.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]Jeffrey, Jamie and Pedro run the place.[/QUOTE]What happened to Jesse? Did he leave again? Used to be run by the three "J"s.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]Although [FoD] is closer to PP and the airport than BBs, you can't get anywhere worthwhile by walking.[/QUOTE]I spent several months there in total when Dominican Billy ran it. I often used to walk to the village of Munoz which lies behind the hotel and picked up some great haitianas at bargain basement prices. (Not everyone's idea of a good time, I appreciate!) Funny how they all surfaced in Sosua months or years later after benefitting from my career training.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]One afternoon I took a 10 minute walk straight toward the sea cutting through Playa Dorada and I was told I could not use the beach because they were all private.[/QUOTE]Very unusual to hear of anyone being turned away. I wonder if they have tightened up? Legally all beaches in the DR are open to the public but I guess that argument wouldn't hold much weight against a couple of security guards with shotguns.

But not to worry, there are good beaches immediately to the right (east) and left (west) of the Playa Dorada beach. The first is usually deserted and the second has Dominicans, bars, restaurants and services.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa; 1404463]With FOD being somewhat isolated, having high walls. Has some advantages.

At one point I saw one guy lying on the pool table getting a blow job from one of the chicas in full view of everyone

They can also really crank up the music at night.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't consider either of those instances "advantages". In fact I think that is the wrong direction for FoD to go for the sort of clientele it should be aiming at (same as the murals).

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]FODs location provides disadvantages in that . you need to catch a ride. I was able to turn this disadvantage into a plus as I finally learned how to use the gua-gua's (local public transport). I caught the gua-gua in front of FOD for a 25 minute ride to Sosua for 100 pesos each way. It cost 30 pesos to catch a ride to the Puerto Plata clinic. Yes, you are stuffed in either a Toyota Corolla with 7 other Dominicans or a minivan with 19 of your closest friends, but really it is an experience and it is safe.[/quote]Good for you. But the ride to Sosua should be 50 pesos each way, not 100, unless you did the sensible thing and paid for two adjacent seats for a bit more comfort. Your math is a bit out. Full complement for a publico is driver and two passengers (sharing a bucket seat for one) at front, and four passengers sharing a bench seat for three at back.

I am talking here about publicos (shared taxis) not guaguas (sometimes buses, but usually minivans). The latter are slower and you are unlikely to have the option of buying adjacent seats.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa;1404463]FOD is not BBs 'lite', nor should it be.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I have been flogging that line for years. If FoD tries to compete head-on with BB there will only be one winner. FoD should promote its "niche" assets to a minority clientele. It is not a huge place (16 rooms?) and doesn't need to cater to the monger mass-market to flourish.

[QUOTE=MS Clive; 1403101]Take Mr. Pooter's advice and go to BB. Perfect if you like dark skinned girls. Also talk to mamasan if you want a specific characteristics in a chica and she will recommend a girl. Saving you a hit or miss. Generally you will not be disappointed with BB especially if it is your first mongering trip to DR.

If you prefer Caucasian looking girls DR is the wrong country but some girls to be had at Oxygen at higher price.

I personally loved BB on my first trip there but got bored on my 2nd trip there. Since then I stick to Sosua and never even go to BB. Yet BB is your best bet because girls are available round the clock.[/QUOTE]LOL.

Just out of curiosity, where would one go if they were looking for "Caucasian looking" girls?

Personal preference is girls who look mixed. (between various races)

You can find plenty of those at BB.

[QUOTE=DBoyyy; 1405819]LOL.

Just out of curiosity, where would one go if they were looking for "Caucasian looking" girls?

Personal preference is girls who look mixed. (between various races) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1406052]You can find plenty of those at BB.[/QUOTE]Mixed. Eh? Yes BB and Sosua both have plenty of them. Passions at Sosua is my favorite for mixed. Albeit with higher prices and inflated egos, attitudes. But generally predictable, clean and better-than-average looking Chicas. If you like slightly slimmer Caucasian looking chicas then Passions is good.

BB is something all newbies should experience at least ones. 3 days in BB is a great intro to DR chicas.

It sucks that I was supposed to board my plane for DR tomorrow. But long story short I don't have to make a trip to Puerto Rico so I won't arrive till the 18th. Fortunately I will be arriving in Santiago and not Santo Domingo. So if anyone wants to share a cab, let me know.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1404484]Welcome back Ponderosa, you have been missed. Great reporting also. Its funny but I sent FOD an email two weeks ago and still haven't received a response, oh well.[/QUOTE]Ponderosa,

Good to hear from you after your absence.

Check your Yahoo email when you get the chance.

Good luck to you, homey.

Yanqui69

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1409593]The 2 times that I have been to BB the women were thicker than the few times I have been to FOD. If you have particular tastes then it would be best to stay in Sosua so you will have more to choose from. I have never seen more than maybe 6 girls at FOD and maybe 20 at BB during the bikini contest.[/QUOTE]
I was at FoD last Thursday early afternoon and counted 13 putas within the one hour I was there. (Perhaps others in rooms with clients?) There were at least as many guys. I meant to enquire how many of them were staying there but I never got round to doing so. I would guess only three or four but could be wrong. I was told that since the new papasan (Pedro?) started there were a lot more Dominicans dropping in. Half the guys seemed Dominican but they were not objectionable. They weren't buying many rounds either, at least while I was there.

Surprisingly lively for early Thursday afternoon.

As Mr Enternational suggests, the chicas were well in the flaca-to-average part of the spectrum. That is a plus for me but I appreciate it may not be so for many mongers. I was talking to a couple of guys staying there who were Barba Negra vets and have lately switched to FoD. In their opinion the selection was the best they had seen there and equal to Barba Negra in quality, if not in quantity. I agree, but be aware the FoD chicas were very casually dressed with no special effort to look "sexy" in respect of clothes, hair or makeup. I much prefer this natural look but, again, others will have different tastes.

The atmosphere is different at FoD from Barba Negra. Entering Barna Negra it is obvious you have entered a brothel. At Field of Dreams it is more like you have walked in on a private party. Service is more "professional" at Barba Negra. At Field of Dreams it is more "amateurish". (But at least on this occasion the mens bano was spotless and with soap, paper and clean towels).

Still no Haitians, though.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa; 1404463]Trip report, where to start?

I just got back from a three week trip to the DR. This was WAY LONGER than I ever wanted to stay in the DR at one time, but the purpose of this trip was to take advantage of 'medical tourism' (or more precisely 'dental tourism') and three weeks was necessary to complete the procedures. The partaking of the chicas along the way was a phenomenal side benefit of the trip. I had all the work done in a clinic in the DR, and with including airfare, hotel, food, transportation and paying for the dental work, I saved a couple thousand dollars over what I was quoted to have the work done in the US. I am extremely satisfied with the outcome and I had a trip I will never forget.

I have been to the DR close to 20 times since late 2006. Over the years I did the novia thing (yes, I was Western Union novio for a bit of time –no more, learned my lesson here) , hit Sosua, BBs and Santiago, but mostly I spent my time on the North Coast. My personal preference in punting is that I like being a spoon fed monger and although I break things up by occasionally visiting Sosua, I like the 'point and click' atmosphere of a place like BBs. This trip I had a lot of time on my hands, I thought I would explore a bit and broaden my horizons in several areas. I decided not to rent a car for my entire trip and I thought this was a good opportunity to try different modes of transport available here.

With this much time on my hands, I knew I could not do my entire stay at BBs. I knew I would get claustrophobic if I did. I also saw this as an opportunity to get a firsthand comparison of BBs to FOD. I booked about a week at BBs and another at FOD. I left things up in the air from there. Let me preface things here by saying I am not a shill for either place, I just am giving you my opinion.

BBs. They were the first DR establishment I visited in 2006. The place was nice back then, but I will tell you John has done nothing but try to improve the place since he bought it. His latest improvements have brought the hotel to an upper mid-level hotel by US standards. They finally have consistent HOT WATER! Nice A / C, very clean rooms and Wi-Fi available in my rooms (all total I had 3 rooms).20 plus girls are available in the afternoon shift and 25-35 chicas in the evening. The evening shift dresses up to the nines and there were a lot of 'doable' chicas available from noon on. The food has improved over the years and I am seeing more locals stopping by to eat as a testament to the improvement. Food prices for dinner average $8-$10. Tim, Cliff and Martha kept the place running smoothly without John being present my entire stay. I got 40. 9 pesos / US dollar from Jenny's and I made use of the local pharmacy and Solo Mia's restaurant. I also took one chica out to Los Tres Coco's in La Roka, a great restaurant 10 minutes from Costambar. When I first started travelling to the DR I got 33 pesos / US dollar and BBs chica rates were 1300 ST / 2500 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively) , today it is 1600 ST / 3000 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively). For the most part, BBs runs like a well-oiled machine. It was a lot rougher around the edges when I first started my travels there.

My biggest complaint, if you want to call it that, is the Costambar Taxi Mafia prices. Once you get to know your way around the DR and how cheap things are, you hate it when you know you are being gouged by paying 'gringo prices'. A Costambar mafia taxi to Puerto Plata clinic was 800 pesos ($20) , PP taxi back to BBS was $10. Motoconcho BBs to PP clinic 300 pesos ($7. 50) , PP motochoncho back to BBs. 75 to 100 pesos (about $2 to $2. 50)

FOD. The hotel itself is set up well. The grounds are manicured and the rooms are clean. The murals of hand painted, half naked women on every flat wall does creep me out, but some of the guys I talked to down there liked the hand crafted aspect of it. To each his own I guess. Jeffrey, Jamie and Pedro run the place. Neecko the Romanian bartender is a hoot and one of the biggest assets of FOD. FOD is completely surrounded by high walls and it sits alone, surrounded by a large field, across from the service entrance to Playa Dorada. Although this hotel is closer to PP and the airport than BBs, you can't get anywhere worthwhile by walking. One afternoon I took a 10 minute walk straight toward the sea cutting through Playa Dorada and I was told I could not use the beach because they were all private. On my walk there and back, Playa Dorada was a ghost town. Playa Dorada ain't what it used to be.

With FOD being somewhat isolated, having high walls and its close proximity to Playa Dorada has some advantages. For those people staying across the street in Playa Dorada, girls are available throughout the day; they can rent a room for a quickie and bypass the hassle and price of Crystals. I ran into another advantage while I was at FOD, there was a crew of guys throwing a semi-private party and it started to get a bit wild. At one point I saw one guy lying on the pool table getting a blow job from one of the chicas in full view of everyone. You won't see that at BBs. Being in a residential community, BBs does not allow nudity in any public areas. Obviously that situation doesn't bother FOD. They can also really crank up the music at night, something FOD can get away with vs. BBs having neighbors close by.

FODs location provides disadvantages in that if you want to do most anything off site, change money, get food, buy Cialis, anything else, you need to catch a ride. I was able to turn this disadvantage into a plus as I finally learned how to use the gua-gua's (local public transport). I caught the gua-gua in front of FOD for a 25 minute ride to Sosua for 100 pesos each way. It cost 30 pesos to catch a ride to the Puerto Plata clinic. Yes, you are stuffed in either a Toyota Corolla with 7 other Dominicans or a minivan with 19 of your closest friends, but really it is an experience and it is safe.

From my point of view, FOD is a nice place for a short stay, one, no more than two nights. The place reminds me a lot of how BBs used to be a long time ago. They have not worked out all the kinks. All the drama of the place works out in front of you if you stay there for any length of time. Jamie runs around like a chicken with his head cut off handling the problem of the moment. Rules are made up and broken on the spot by Jamie and Pedro. Maria is supposed to be the Mamason, but then Pedro says he is the Papason. The girls seem to playing the guys all the time. Jamie takes a chica of his choice to his room every night for the privilege of the chica keeping her job. Pedro jokes that he (Jamie) is 'quality control' for the chicas. The lunch and dinner plates are more expensive than BBs. Their menu is more limited and they don't have all the items listed on it. One night I asked for lasagna ('sorry, we are out') , then the pork steak from their signature dishes page ('sorry, we are out') , before settling on the bacon cheeseburger (that is one of their best selections).

Some of these comparisons / observations may be knit-picky, but here goes. When I first arrived, I had to get the girl who checked me in to fix things in my room so my TV would turn on, so my toilet would flush (it was plugged up) and show me how to turn on the air conditioner. It turns out the air conditioner in my room has a wall switch that turns it on or off, with no temperature control available. When I turned it on to go to bed at night, it would wake me up at about 4 am as it got too cold, it had iced up and was making that fan blade hitting ice noise. Even on a cool morning I still had to turn on the air conditioner when my room got stuffy, as there is only one window and no cross ventilation in my room. Not every room has a mini-fridge, which I miss a lot, especially if I get thirsty in the middle of the night. They have no clear cut ways to use the 'house phone' and you kind of have to muddle through it all yourself. Nowhere was I told or was it written that the chicas have an agreed to price of 1600 and 3000, just like BBs, but you can negotiate if you want to. No matter where you go, chica quality is always up for personal taste, as well as 'luck of the draw', but I was there for over a week and although there were always 10 to 20 chicas available, but to my taste, there were really only about 4 or five chicas that were 'doable'. The girls seem a lot 'hungrier' than BBs and I found myself locked in my room at times to keep from being pestered by the chicas for a date when I wanted to be left alone. This 'hunger' is a double edged sword as those few chicas I did choose to be with gave me a very high level of service. I like having ambient lighting while I am doing the deed with my chica, and BBs has small lamps off to the side that are perfect for that. At FOD their only lighting was the main overhead lights and I just didn't like the atmosphere it created (again, some of this may be knit-picky).

I realize this may sound like an advert for BBs, and in a way I guess it is. Really I am glad there is a place like FOD out there as it creates some competition for BBs and competition is a good thing. I wonder how long it would have been for BBs to get flat screen TVs had it not been for FOD? FOD reminds me a lot of BBs from years ago, but a bit more disorganized. It is going to take FOD a while to get things down pat and to find its niche. FOD is not BBs 'lite', nor should it be. Since I have been going down to the DR I have seen FOD change hands too many times, but I really think this time they have a chance to make it work. If for no other reason than Playa Dorada no longer has the pull that it used to.

PS: I have purposefully stayed off the boards and away from the punting community for a few years now. Life circumstances have pushed me out of the workforce and into an early retirement, thus causing a dramatic shift in my punting priorities / opportunities. Right or wrong, I chose not to communicate with even good friends over the years from the board as I dealt (and am dealing) with these changes. It was just too hard to juggle real life with my fantasy (mongering) life. My apologies to those I have intentionally ignored (you know who you are). I am only rejoining the conversation here on ISG as I have again been able to partake in our shared hobby on a limited basis and I have a few observations I thought I should share with the board. 'Nuff said on that subject.[/QUOTE]I stayed at FOD last Fall, and I fully agree with several of your comments. Here are the notes I took last Fall. I didn't know about the gua-guas (public transport) at the time. Otherwise I could've gotten around more. I never got around to posting my notes until now, but they were written long before I read your post:

I was at Field of Dreams (FOD) once for a few days last Fall (2012). So what I write may be somewhat outdated now. Some things were good, some weren't. Here is what I thought:

I thought the owners and staff were friendly and helpful.

The room and restaurant were OK, and the swimming pool was nice.

The satellite TVs shut off when it rained though. I heard satellite TVs had more problems with rain here than in the US.

I thought there were 2 or 3 good looking girls and a few others who were just OK. Most were not my type.

(I had heard about the not so great quality of the girls before I went, but one of the owners wrote on this forum, before I left for my trip, that the quality was improving, with new and better looking girls arriving everyday. If so, I didn't see them). But I was only there for a few days, so a couple of lookers were enough. And the two lookers I was with, for a few hours, were very good!

My main complaint was the isolation. There was no store or restaurant within walking distance. (At the time, last Fall, there was a restaurant a block away on the main road, to the left, but it was closed, with a "for rent" sign on it).

It is important for me to have a convenience store nearby to buy things. Also, Playa Dorado Hotel and it's beach and its disco were not within walking distance either. And taking taxis there or to stores everyday would be expensive. So personally I would not spend more than a few days at FOD, because of the isolation, if having stores or restaurants or beaches or discos within walking distance is important to you.

I have never been to Blackbeards (BBs), but I heard that there are stores, restaurants and a beach all within a short walking distance. Kind of funny, because I had read a post on this forum, before my trip, that BBs was isolated and FOD was not. It's probably the opposite. But that poster may have meant that FOD is closer to Sosua and Puerto Plata than BBs is.

Finally, a tourist I met at FOD, who had also stayed at BBs, complained that very few girls at FOD will spend the whole night with a customer. He said that all the girls at BBs will spend the whole night with a customer.

[QUOTE=Henry R;1409744]I have never been to Blackbeards (BBs), but I heard that there are stores, restaurants and a beach all within a short walking distance. Kind of funny, because I had read a post on this forum, before my trip, that BBs was isolated and FOD was not. It's probably the opposite. But that poster may have meant that FOD is closer to Sosua and Puerto Plata than BBs is.[/QUOTE]This point has been disputed for a decade. When I first visited the DR I stayed at BB and my main concern before I came was that I had read that it was "in the middle of nowhere". It isn't, but FOD is. The Playa Dorada stores and beach ARE within walking distance, sort of, but it is quite a walk in hot weather.

Of course it all depends on your definition of "middle of nowhere". To people used to living in a large city, a village like Costambar is "the middle of nowhere", because it is not close to big city amenities. To others, including myself,"the middle of nowhere" would mean that there is no other building within close walking distance-which would describe Field of Dreams.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1409815]This point has been disputed for a decade. When I first visited the DR I stayed at BB and my main concern before I came was that I had read that it was "in the middle of nowhere". It isn't, but FOD is. The Playa Dorada stores and beach ARE within walking distance, sort of, but it is quite a walk in hot weather.

Of course it all depends on your definition of "middle of nowhere". To people used to living in a large city, a village like Costambar is "the middle of nowhere", because it is not close to big city amenities. To others, including myself,"the middle of nowhere" would mean that there is no other building within close walking distance-which would describe Field of Dreams.[/QUOTE]Interesting! I discovered BB last October by accident. I had encountered a woman on Facebook from PP who used to work in some hotel around and so when I told her I would like to see costambar beaches, she told me "sure. Next time when you are around". In October, she guided me. We drove in my car, from PP center. Actually Caribe Express. All the way to the outskirts of PP and where the UASD campus is, we veered to the right and after some boondocks, got to the so-called Costambar gates where a guard waved us in. Inside, she and I drove around a bit when I spied Blackbeards which was smack in the middle of a bunch of houses while I had imagined it to be in some kind of Island of Dr. Moreaux, LOL, far from anything. Then we went to the beach for lunch and as it so happened, bumped into an American woman, a Canadian woman, a Dutch woman, married to a Domenican, who owned the restaurant, all my age group. In short one man and 4 women including the young woman I was with who spoke English well. We had a good fun time chatting together before I and the woman I was with, left for a cabana, there was one close by on the way out of the city that she guided me to.

I do not know what is "walkable" distance for others but I thought the beach from Blackbeards is eminently walkable and around the gate, there were stores and such. If I recall correctly.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1409815]Of course it all depends on your definition of "middle of nowhere".[/QUOTE]For me it is a question of cheap and convenient access to interesting locations (beaches, bars, stores, banks, Sosua, Montellano, Pto Pta city, Malecon, Cabarete and points east, etc.) Field of Dreams qualifies, Blackbeards doesn't.

But as you say, there is no right and wrong about it. It depends what your priorities are. For example, someone just posted that one his priorities is proximity to a convenience store. I have stayed a total of seven months at Field of Dreams over the years and cannot remember ever needing one urgently. Though if I did there is a supermarket and choice of half dozen colmados not more than 15 minutes away, which I guess is about the time it takes to walk to Wendy's from Blackbeards? No supermarkets or banks in Costambar.

I do remember a starving haitiana and I wanted pizza at 3. 00am in the morning at Field of Dreams and we went out and bought one and were back eating it in bed within 40 minutes at the additional cost of 120 pesos for transport. Best of luck with that at Blackbeards.

Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?

[QUOTE=Shamester;1410252]Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?[/QUOTE]Not sure if there would be a market for that. Google: flights POP PAP

[QUOTE=Shamester;1410252]Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?[/QUOTE]I wish.

Awkward trip from Pto Plata to Potoprens whether you go via Santo Domingo or via Okap.

I once knew a puta from Cristal who flew from Pto Pta to Potoprens in a privately chartered light plane on her own dime (though sharing with three other passengers). Not suggesting she did that regularly though. Probably had just enjoyed a profitable couple of weeks with a high-roller.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1410223]I do remember a starving haitiana and I wanted pizza at 3. 00am in the morning at Field of Dreams and we went out and bought one and were back eating it in bed within 40 minutes at the additional cost of 120 pesos for transport. Best of luck with that at Blackbeards.[/QUOTE]It can be difficult to transport a pizza on a motoconcho. I did not know you can get one in Puerto Plata at 3:00 a. M, but then at that hour I am tucked up in bed. Blackbeards is or was just down the road from a pizzeria, but not an all night place. Field of Dreams rules when it comes to 3:00 a. M. Pizza.

There is a new place on the Malecon where you can get handmade Italian pizza and other fine foods made by a Neapolitan. But not at 3:00 a. M, I think.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1410252]Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?[/QUOTE]Yes, but you have to change planes at Miami.

One near the entrance to Costambar (good one) ,10-15 minutes walk from BB, this one with really good exchange rate.

Another one on the beach (not so good) ,5-10 minutes walk from BB.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1410223]For me it is a question of cheap and convenient access to interesting locations (beaches, bars, stores, banks, Sosua, Montellano, Pto Pta city, Malecon, Cabarete and points east, etc.) Field of Dreams qualifies, Blackbeards doesn't.

But as you say, there is no right and wrong about it. It depends what your priorities are. For example, someone just posted that one his priorities is proximity to a convenience store. I have stayed a total of seven months at Field of Dreams over the years and cannot remember ever needing one urgently. Though if I did there is a supermarket and choice of half dozen colmados not more than 15 minutes away, which I guess is about the time it takes to walk to Wendy's from Blackbeards? No supermarkets or banks in Costambar.

I do remember a starving haitiana and I wanted pizza at 3. 00am in the morning at Field of Dreams and we went out and bought one and were back eating it in bed within 40 minutes at the additional cost of 120 pesos for transport. Best of luck with that at Blackbeards.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1410535]One near the entrance to Costambar (good one) .10-15 minutes walk from BB, this one with really good exchange rate.

Another one on the beach (not so good) 5-10 minutes walk from BB.[/QUOTE]I was talking about a real supermarket with maybe 40 staff, a bank, a WU branch, a Claro branch, an Orange branch, a restaurant with wi-fi, repairs service, etc, etc, not a mom & pop store. Not a big deal to me, but maybe to the recent poster for whom shopping features high on his priority list.

Big ones are La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket, but the prices are not really worth 800 pesos taxi cost from Costambar.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1410630]I was talking about a real supermarket with maybe 40 staff, a bank, a WU branch, a Claro branch, an Orange branch, a restaurant with wi-fi, repairs service, etc, etc, not a mom & pop store. Not a big deal to me, but maybe to the recent poster for whom shopping features high on his priority list.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1410829]Big ones are La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket, but the prices are not really worth 800 pesos taxi cost from Costambar.[/QUOTE]This is exactly the point I was trying to make. The discussion was whether either Field of Dreams or Blackbeards is in "the middle of nowhere". It comes up frequently on this and other boards. If money is no object you can get to anywhere you want to go from Blackbeards by taking (as you accurately post) a 800 pesos and upwards return trip in a private taxi. You can get to most of the same places from Field of Dreams with a 60 to 100 peso return trip on public transport. (Though not by motoconcho, as Frannie assumed. I wouldn't recommend taking a moto for any distance along the main highway. Also they are not always easy to find outside Field of Dreams).

For some posters here that 700 peso difference means nothing for a bit of comfort and convenience. Most are on a tighter budget and would prefer to spend it on pussy rather than enrich the Costambar taxi mafiosos.

If you are with a group of three or four guys, then it is not an issue as taxis charge per distance and time and not per person, so even the expensive Costambar taxis become reasonable per person.

The supermarket I was referring to with all the facilities, which you could reach from Field of Dreams in the same amount of time as it takes to walk to Wendy's (have I got the name right?) from Blackbeards, is Jose Luis.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1411023]This is exactly the point I was trying to make. The discussion was whether either Field of Dreams or Blackbeards is in "the middle of nowhere". It comes up frequently on this and other boards. If money is no object you can get to anywhere you want to go from Blackbeards by taking (as you accurately post) a 800 pesos and upwards return trip in a private taxi. You can get to most of the same places from Field of Dreams with a 60 to 100 peso return trip on public transport. (Though not by motoconcho, as Frannie assumed. I wouldn't recommend taking a moto for any distance along the main highway. Also they are not always easy to find outside Field of Dreams).

For some posters here that 700 peso difference means nothing for a bit of comfort and convenience. Most are on a tighter budget and would prefer to spend it on pussy rather than enrich the Costambar taxi mafiosos.

If you are with a group of three or four guys, then it is not an issue as taxis charge per distance and time and not per person, so even the expensive Costambar taxis become reasonable per person.

The supermarket I was referring to with all the facilities, which you could reach from Field of Dreams in the same amount of time as it takes to walk to Wendy's (have I got the name right?) from Blackbeards, is Jose Luis.[/QUOTE]Charles, you are assuming that most mongers staying at FOD would use publicos for their transportation needs but the fact is that they don't. That said, mongers that care about keeping there expenses in check on the north coast should learn the public transportation system or else you will get fucked by the taxistas, plain and simple.

My opinion as a person that has stayed at both places multiple times both places are "in the middle of nowhere" for different reasons for different types of mongers, hence the reason for the ongoing debate.

Jenny's market in Costambar is small in size but has just about anything for someone staying there, they have tailored their inventory to meet the immediate needs of residents and certainly the needs of the folks staying at BB's and the other couple of hotels / apartments in Costambar. There are plenty of restaurants in Costambar and a few cool bars and of course the beach and a golf course, all within walking distance or a relatively safe motoconcho ride for the lazy like me. Getting to Sosua or Puerto Plata is expensive by taxi or one needs to take a motoconcho to reach the main road to catch a publico for those that are willing and able.

FOD on the other hand is on the main road so it is easy to catch publicos for those that are willing and able otherwise you will take a taxi everywhere, restaurants, bars, markets, etc. Nothing is within an easy walk and the only thing that is within a difficult walk is Play Dorada, there you will have stores to pick up necessities and restaurants but you will pay through the ass big time, and the taxis in Playa Dorada are as bad as the taxis in Costambar, thieves.

Just my dos centavos.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1411062]My opinion as a person that has stayed at both places multiple times both places are "in the middle of nowhere" for different reasons for different types of mongers, hence the reason for the ongoing debate.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, and that is all I have been saying all along. Different strokes for different folks. No need for the continued pissing up the wall contest. Same goes for the equally stupid "which is better, Blackbeards or Sosua?" vendetta to which the answer is, equally,"It depends what your priorities are."

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1411062]Jenny's market in Costambar.[/QUOTE]That's the one. Sorry I got the name wrong. (Long time since I have been to Costambar. Too far off the beaten track. LOL.)

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1411062]. the taxis in Playa Dorada are as bad as the taxis in Costambar, thieves.[/QUOTE]Indeed, but they were not relevant to my post. No-one at Field of Dreams need call a Playa Dorada taxi. The private city taxis in Puerto Plata are very reasonably priced. I think the minimum is 150 pesos and you can go quite a long way for that.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1411062]Charles, you are assuming that most mongers staying at FOD would use publicos for their transportation needs but the fact is that they don't. That said, mongers that care about keeping there expenses in check on the north coast should learn the public transportation system or else you will get fucked by the taxistas, plain and simple.
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Sadly true. Some are too nervous or too snobbish to use publicos, but most don't use them simply because they are not aware of them or don't know how they work. Hotels owners are slow to instruct them because they receive a commission or, at least, goodwill from calling cabs.

I am no longer much use on this earth but one of my remaining roles is to show newbie mongers how to make best use of the public transport system to save lots of money. I have done so many times and guys have generally been very grateful.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1411079]Indeed, but they were not relevant to my post. No-one at Field of Dreams need call a Playa Dorada taxi. The private city taxis in Puerto Plata are very reasonably priced. I think the minimum is 150 pesos and you can go quite a long way for that.[/QUOTE]I only mentioned the Playa Dorada taxis for those that decide after walking from FOD to Playa Dorada in the brutal mid day sun that want to return via taxi that they will pay about double the normal cost.

Charles, I would welcome your help in learning more about utilizing the publicos. I use them out of Sosua quite often but not from the main road in Puerto Plata. I am traveling to the DR with an acquaintance of yours and a good friend of Billy's in June, possibly staying at FOD, I'll buy you lunch and drinks though I know you aren't much of a boozer.

Anyone know the routes of the Puerto Plata city guaguas, the ones with big letters in the front windows (they range from "A" to "H" if I am correct)?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1411188]Anyone know the routes of the Puerto Plata city guaguas, the ones with big letters in the front windows (they range from "A" to "H" if I am correct)?[/QUOTE]There are carros too that use the letter system. I think "C" is Playa Dorada, and then there is one for Maimon and another for Cofresi, but most of them have the place name posted too. If in doubt you can always hail the vehicle and ask.

Adding to what I wrote last week about FOD being isolated. I just wanted a convenience store, and maybe some restaurants, within walking distance and I didn't see any near FOD. I didn't need a big supermarket, since I wasn't going to be there for a long time. Also, I walked to the Playa Dorado hotel one night to check out their disco, and it was further away than I expected. It was certainly not a short walk. And it felt a little scary walking there at night, since it was so deserted. And some of the FOD girls had warned me that it's dangerous walking around the area at night, so I turned back before I got there. I could have split cab fare if I was with others, but I was alone, so taking cabs everyday would get expensive. And I didn't know about the gua guas at the time. I can't compare this to BBs because I've never been there.

Also, is what I heard true that all the girls at BBs will spend the whole night, but very few at FOD will?

Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Rock29;1411864]Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Have you no shame? Start out by reading the forum. For goodness sake the guy who posted right before you answered your question before you even asked.

[QUOTE=Rock29;1411864]Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Tell a taxi driver to take you to where the chicas are.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1411990]Tell a taxi driver to take you to where the chicas are.[/QUOTE]There was another group of guys staying there recently with whom I exchanged emails. They did exactly that and were happy with their holidays. Reading between the lines I think they had a large budget, and convenience was more important to them than saving money.

But if you guys are on a budget, that is a bad plan. Taxis in Playa Dorada are expensive and they will take you where the chicas are expensive (Cocoa Club, Cristal, etc). Also everywhere they take you they will get a commission which will be added to your bill.

The short answer to your question, and to keep costs very reasonable, is to walk through the Playa Dorada grounds (pleasant, safe. 15 minute walk) to Field of Dreams. That will keep you amused for three or four days at an affordable price. Anything else and you will either pay a lot more money or you will need some knowledge as to how to get around on the cheap.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1411887]Have you no shame? Start out by reading the forum. For goodness sake the guy who posted right before you answered your question before you even asked.[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational. There is a time lag. From we posting to the report actually getting posted on the forum. Hence maybe it was not possible for him to read the reply before posting.

[QUOTE=MS Clive;1412043]Mr Enternational. There is a time lag. From we posting to the report actually getting posted on the forum. Hence maybe it was not possible for him to read the reply before posting.[/QUOTE]You didn't read Mr Enternational's post carefully enough.

I agree with his implication. Why should we help those who are too lazy to help themselves by at least reading the more recent posts? These will usually answer a lot of their questions, or at least help them to formulate more precise questions. If they assume their time is more valuable than ours, fuck 'them.

[QUOTE=Rock29;1411864]Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Is it just you who wants to escape from Gulag Playa Dorada or a group of mongers? If the former, using taxis can get real expensive. Shared between three or four guys, not so much.

I am always willing to try and help solo guys on a budget find their way round Puerto Plata cheaply, but if a group of guys are splashing the cash they don't need my help and I have better things to do.

[QUOTE=Rock29;1411864]Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Just looked at your previous 6 posts. You were asking all the same questions a year ago and they were all answered. (At my age I am the one who is supposed to have memory problems). Have you forgotten everything you did or did you totally ignore our advice? Or did you not actually turn up last year? You are either a troll or one of the most helpless mongers here.

As we all will someday. If El Capitan, BB owner, with his failing health eventually passes away. Who will own BB? Sometimes when there's change of leadership everything goes downhill.

If I have learned anything about the owner of BB's over the past 8 years is he is a very smart man. I am sure he has a backup plan in the event of an incapacitating health situation.

Best of health old friend!

[QUOTE=Lopkx;1413093]As we all will someday. If El Capitan, BB owner, with his failing health eventually passes away. Who will own BB? Sometimes when there's change of leadership everything goes downhill.[/QUOTE]And, sometimes things get better with new leadership. Only time will tell.

Contrary to what some mongers think (and I have no idea where that came from.) , the girls at FOD are very happy to do an overnight. What I should state is that due to our schedule, which allows the girls with children to know in advance when they are expected to be on-site, SOME chicas may not be available every night. But, in general, overnights are both available as well desired by our girls.

Is all the girls available for take out day or night at fod

[QUOTE=Grub1;1414738]Is all the girls available for take out day or night at fod[/QUOTE]You have to pay a $20. USD multa to FOD to take a girl off premises plus whatever fee that the girl charges.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1414738]Is all the girls available for take out day or night at fod[/QUOTE]Here we go again.

Why not ask all the other questions while you are at it?

Can I take girls from Passions into Blackbeards?

Can I take girls from Blackbeards to my hotel in Sosua?

Can I take girls from FoD into Blackbeards and vice versa?

Seriously, why would you want to take girls [u]out[/u] Of Field of Dreams? You are already paying a small premium for the convenience of having them on the premises, why pay a sizable surcharge to take them out? Where would you be taking them to? How about a cabana, then you could add another 600 pesos to your expenses?

For me the main strength of Field of Dreams is that it is a safe, gringo-standard, chica-friendly place to take independent chicas (whether pros or semi-pros) [u]into[/u].

Mongering in the DR can be so simple and cheap. Why complicate everything?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1414754]Here we go again.

Why not ask all the other questions while you are at it?

Can I take girls from Passions into Blackbeards?

Can I take girls from Blackbeards to my hotel in Sosua?

Can I take girls from FoD into Blackbeards and vice versa?

Seriously, why would you want to take girls [u]out[/u] Of Field of Dreams? You are already paying a small premium for the convenience of having them on the premises, why pay a sizable surcharge to take them out? Where would you be taking them to? How about a cabana, then you could add another 600 pesos to your expenses?

For me the main strength of Field of Dreams is that it is a safe, gringo-standard, chica-friendly place to take independent chicas (whether pros or semi-pros) [u]into[/u].

Mongering in the DR can be so simple and cheap. Why complicate everything?[/QUOTE]Not everyone wants to spend their days inside the walled compound like they are in a prison. Maybe they want company to dinner at a restaurant or a day at the beach or a night out drinking and dancing. Personally, I would much rather have a Dominican h00ker accommodate me for a night on the town than some gringo that I might have to babysit and translate for all night.

The reason I knew the answer to Grub1's question is I recently inquired about taking a girl out. One of the girls that is currently working at FOD I have known for seven years. In addition to having a "working" relationship we are also friends. We go out to various bars, clubs and restaurants and hang out with mutual friends in various barrios shooting the shit and drinking. This may be foreign behavior to most but not all.

Though I understand why FOD has the $20. Multa it sucks for a guy like me that doesn't hang out at the hotel 24/7. That and the fact that the only way to reserve a room is a bank wire transfer, fuck that.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1414770]Not everyone wants to spend their days inside the walled compound like they are in a prison. Maybe they want company to dinner at a restaurant or a day at the beach or a night out drinking and dancing. Personally, I would much rather have a Dominican h00ker accommodate me for a night on the town than some gringo that I might have to babysit and translate for all night.

The reason I knew the answer to Grub1's question is I recently inquired about taking a girl out. One of the girls that is currently working at FOD I have known for seven years. In addition to having a "working" relationship we are also friends. We go out to various bars, clubs and restaurants and hang out with mutual friends in various barrios shooting the shit and drinking. This may be foreign behavior to most but not all.

Though I understand why FOD has the $20. Multa it sucks for a guy like me that doesn't hang out at the hotel 24/7. That and the fact that the only way to reserve a room is a bank wire transfer, fuck that.[/QUOTE]If you know this girl as a friend why not just arrange to meet her somewhere as you would any other friend. I understand all the girls at FOD ar FLing so it is not like they have to be there fixed hours.

I must admit I assumed Grub1 would not be resident at FoD, perhaps wrongly. I totally accept Manizales point that a resident might not want to stay on campus and might like to take a chica out to dine or dance. But then Manizales would not have needed to ask the question because he already knows the score.

And as Littf suggests, if you are that friendly with the chica you could arrange to meet outside when she is off-duty. But I get the impression Grub1 has no existing friendship with FoD chicas.

If I were a resident I would resent having to pay a take-out charge. Plenty of equally nice girls outside who would like to be wined and dined or go dancing and they would not necessarily be putas. That is where FoD has one advantage over Blackbeards. Easier and cheaper to get into town to restaurants and dance-halls, and much easier and cheaper to get back at night.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1414782]I understand all the girls at FOD ar FLing so it is not like they have to be there fixed hours.[/QUOTE]I believe they do have to give some sort of commitment nowadays. They can no longer wander in and out as they please. But if the management could not be flexible and re-schedule a chica's hours for a good client it would be short-sighted of them.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1414770]Personally, I would much rather have a Dominican h00ker accommodate me for a night on the town than some gringo that I might have to babysit and translate for all night.[/QUOTE]You and me both, although in my case it would be a haitiana and preferably a semi-pro rather than one of Field of Dreams' finest.

But, amazingly, many guys prefer the company of other guys. It seems to be an American thing. Europeans and Canadians not so much. I refrain from probing deeper into this mentality. They place immense value on the company of "wingmen","my boy (s)" and "bros before hoes".

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1414797]That is where FoD has one advantage over Blackbeards. Easier and cheaper to get into town to restaurants and dance-halls, and much easier and cheaper to get back at night.[/QUOTE]That is exactly why I will be staying at FOD on my upcoming trip if they have rooms available which most likely won't be a problem.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1414754]Here we go again.[/QUOTE]Long live Charles Pooter. I could not stop laughing.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1414770]The reason I knew the answer to Grub1's question is I recently inquired about taking a girl out. One of the girls that is currently working at FOD I have known for seven years. In addition to having a "working" relationship we are also friends. We go out to various bars, clubs and restaurants and hang out with mutual friends in various barrios shooting the shit and drinking. This may be foreign behavior to most but not all.[/QUOTE]That would be an interesting exercise for me. Hanging out in various barrios bit. But I do not know any pros, never having cultivated it in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1414805]You and me both, although in my case it would be a haitiana and preferably a semi-pro rather than one of Field of Dreams' finest.

But, amazingly, many guys prefer the company of other guys.[/QUOTE]"Why can't a woman be more like a man?" [Henry Higgins: from My Fair Lady]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAY[/url]

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1415117]"Why can't a woman be more like a man?" [Henry Higgins: from My Fair Lady]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAY[/url][/QUOTE]Good one Frannie! Good old GBS.

As a person who travels alone, the question of "wing. What" is somewhat difficult to understand. Perhaps it is the fear of the unknown or bragging right to a high five?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1414839]That would be an interesting exercise for me. Hanging out in various barrios bit. But I do not know any pros, never having cultivated it in Sosua.[/QUOTE]The majority of pros I wouldn't even think of befriending let alone hang out with in their barrio but having been with hundreds over the many years that I have traveled to the DR I have met a handful that were real nice people, again, a handful out of hundreds. But that is enough for me, I'm not into the Sosua sport fuck scene anymore. I'll go to Sosua to party and shack up there as well because Puerto Plata doesn't have any hotels that meet my standards outside of FOD but I much rather be in Puerto Plata than Sosua these days.

I would strongly suggest to anyone new to the DR to keep close contact with any girls that they feel are "special" for whatever reason as they seem to be shrinking in numbers and there will be a day where you will tire of the chase for good service. My "little black book" is my most precious possession. And don't rely on that $15. Dominican phone to hold that info either. Cloud storage or something similar is the only way to go.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1415211]I would strongly suggest to anyone new to the DR to keep close contact with any girls that they feel are "special" for whatever reason as they seem to be shrinking in numbers and there will be a day where you will tire of the chase for good service. My "little black book" is my most precious possession. And don't rely on that $15. Dominican phone to hold that info either. Cloud storage or something similar is the only way to go.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Valid points. Long before cloud computing became mass, I have used ftp to keep file copies in several locations. At least on one occasion, there was a fire but it did not create the havoc you would expect with such major data-loss.

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42;1414366]Contrary to what some mongers think (and I have no idea where that came from.) , the girls at FOD are very happy to do an overnight. What I should state is that due to our schedule, which allows the girls with children to know in advance when they are expected to be on-site, SOME chicas may not be available every night. But, in general, overnights are both available as well desired by our girls.[/QUOTE]To answer your question about where that came from, which is: where I heard that girls at FOD will not spend the whole night.

I met a guest while staying at FOD. He had been staying there a while. He said he also had stayed at BBs. He told me that very few of the girls at FOD would spend the whole night, but all the girls at BBs will. He said he had asked a number of girls at FOD, but very few would spend the whole night. I don't know why he would say that if it weren't true. He didn't come across to me as a BS artist. This is a guess, but maybe he had only asked the more attractive ones, and didn't ask the others, who may have been the ones willing to do all night.

Most of them at BB will do all night, but it will depend on the day, number of customers, children situation, your attractiveness, time you want to start TLN.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1415776]To answer your question about where that came from, which is: where I heard that girls at FOD will not spend the whole night.

I met a guest while staying at FOD. He had been staying there a while. He said he also had stayed at BBs. He told me that very few of the girls at FOD would spend the whole night, but all the girls at BBs will. He said he had asked a number of girls at FOD, but very few would spend the whole night. I don't know why he would say that if it weren't true. He didn't come across to me as a BS artist. This is a guess, but maybe he had only asked the more attractive ones, and didn't ask the others, who may have been the ones willing to do all night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1415967]Most of them at BB will do all night, but it will depend on the day, number of customers, children situation, your attractiveness, time you want to start TLN.[/QUOTE]Interesting, I never had a girl at BB's tell me that she couldn't do TLN, I didn't think they were allowed to say "no" but I could be wrong about that. I'll be curious as to what other BB vets have experienced.

Gentleman, Thanks for your reports.

Due to my SO, I don't think she will let me go, so I have enjoyed reading your reports. I am from Southern California, so we do have fun options but I would love to find a place like BB, FOD to sneak off for a few days. That I could manage. I don't think there are any, unless its for a closed ethnic group; but nothing for the average white guy looking for fun.

One thing if someone has time, I see FOD has two plans, one girl for 24 hours unlimited and then ala carte rentals. What are your thoughts on that. I am not going, but would like to dream about what I would do in your shoes.

Stay safe, use sunblock.

Fun

They can always find an excuse, such as a sick child or a previous arrangement.

Even if you talk to mamasan and make chica stay, your expirience with chica might be not so good.

As I've heard, infamous Johanny did not like TLN, but she were able to squeeze all your leche in less than 2 hours LOL.

Anyway, most of them will actually prefer TLN 9 times out of 10.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1416031]Interesting, I never had a girl at BB's tell me that she couldn't do TLN, I didn't think they were allowed to say "no" but I could be wrong about that. I'll be curious as to what other BB vets have experienced.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1416031]Interesting, I never had a girl at BB's tell me that she couldn't do TLN, I didn't think they were allowed to say "no" but I could be wrong about that. I'll be curious as to what other BB vets have experienced.[/QUOTE]The only time I ever encountered that problem was, coincidentally with Yohanny, when her last child was still an infant. She wanted to be home with the baby, which of course I understood. Many times the reason has to do with kids at home etc. I would not advise forcing the issue, since it would more than likely affect the girl's attitude, performance, etc.

I am so jealous yohanni is legiondary. I have been to BB twice and Yohanny was not there. I understand she is nolonger working. All that talent/

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1417753]The only time I ever encountered that problem was, coincidentally with Yohanny, when her last child was still an infant. She wanted to be home with the baby, which of course I understood. Many times the reason has to do with kids at home etc. I would not advise forcing the issue, since it would more than likely affect the girl's attitude, performance, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1414805]You and me both, although in my case it would be a haitiana and preferably a semi-pro rather than one of Field of Dreams' finest.

But, amazingly, many guys prefer the company of other guys. It seems to be an American thing. Europeans and Canadians not so much. I refrain from probing deeper into this mentality. They place immense value on the company of "wingmen","my boy (s)" and "bros before hoes".[/QUOTE]Who wants to talk about it with the boy's we all need to be fucking all we can while on our holiday.

I had 2 wingmen on my last trip. After 5 days I wanted to ditch them both. They were not close friends of mine but aquiantances. At the end of the day solo is better for me.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1417774]Who wants to talk about it with the boy's we all need to be fucking all we can while on our holiday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1417757]I am so jealous yohanni is legiondary. I have been to BB twice and Yohanny was not there. I understand she is nolonger working. All that talent/[/QUOTE]My chief regret is I only went there once. On a scale of 1 to 10, she was 11.

Traveling by publico or gua gua from Sosua, where should I get dropped off so I could catch a taxi / moto to La Sirena? This is assuming that it will not be walking distance.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1418163]Traveling by publico or gua gua from Sosua, where should I get dropped off so I could catch a taxi / moto to La Sirena? This is assuming that it will not be walking distance.

Thanks![/QUOTE]You could ask them to drop you off at the Palacio de Justicia and you can get a moto from there. Either the moto will go direct down Calle Beller to the back gate of La Sirena, or you could ask them to take the scenic route along the Malecon, which is a little longer. La Sirena is located on the Malecon.

That is what everybody says. Iam so sad I never jumped those bones. I may still track her down cash is still king in the DR.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1418158]My chief regret is I only went there once. On a scale of 1 to 10, she was 11.[/QUOTE]

I miss her. She was an ultimate puta, not a GFE.

She was not a beautiful and sweet, but her skills probably the best I've ever experienced.

Very professional 3 holer with knowledge of monger's psychology LOL! I've overheard some psychological tips she was giving to the other chica during threesome.

I've heard 2 different versions of what happened to her:

1. She owns a beauty salon.

2. She got married to some former customer.

Or maybe both at the same time.

Rumors are, she might be available sometimes. Anyone knows if it's true?

[QUOTE=OldKool;1417757]I am so jealous yohanni is legiondary. I have been to BB twice and Yohanny was not there. I understand she is nolonger working. All that talent/[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1418174]You could ask them to drop you off at the Palacio de Justicia and you can get a moto from there. Either the moto will go direct down Calle Beller to the back gate of La Sirena, or you could ask them to take the scenic route along the Malecon, which is a little longer. La Sirena is located on the Malecon.[/QUOTE]Or you could just stay on the carro publico on its long loop through the town and back towards Sosua then get out near the back entrance of la Sirena. Take you twenty minutes longer but save 25 peso moto fare. Only worth doing if you enjoy the ride or hate riding motos. But Frannie's is the most practical idea.

A girl from Santiago I know has had an accident and lost part of one of her incisors. The dentist suggested root canal and crown etc. I wonder what according to your dentists, this could potentially cost. I do not want her to lose the tooth. For a young woman, that is important and it is a front tooth. Please help with your thoughts and suggestions. She has sent me some pictures which if necessary can be sent too privately.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1418258]I miss her. She was an ultimate puta, not a GFE.

She was not a beautiful and sweet, but her skills probably the best I've ever experienced.

Very professional 3 holer with knowledge of monger's psychology LOL! I've overheard some psychological tips she was giving to the other chica during threesome.

I've heard 2 different versions of what happened to her:

1. She owns a beauty salon.

2. She got married to some former customer.

Or maybe both at the same time.

Rumors are, she might be available sometimes. Anyone knows if it's true?[/QUOTE]A friend was in POP recently and saw her very briefly having lunch with a guy. Said she seemed very relaxed and was content running a nail salon out of her house. If so, I wish her the best. Like a boxer, its good if a chica can leave the profession on her terms and before she's well over the hill.

Its a (hopefully) short-lived career, to make some money, leave, and go have a life.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1418412]A girl from Santiago I know has had an accident and lost part of one of her incisors. The dentist suggested root canal and crown etc. I wonder what according to your dentists, this could potentially cost. I do not want her to lose the tooth. For a young woman, that is important and it is a front tooth. Please help with your thoughts and suggestions. She has sent me some pictures which if necessary can be sent too privately.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]That should cost about $300 US to fix. She can go to a dentist is Santiago and it might cost less or she can go to a dentist in Puerto Plata and get it fixed. One of my friends from the states comes here to get his dental work done and he found a dentist that does a good job for him pretty reasonably priced. I can pm you a number for a dentist in POP I know.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1418412]A girl from Santiago I know has had an accident and lost part of one of her incisors. The dentist suggested root canal and crown etc. I wonder what according to your dentists, this could potentially cost. I do not want her to lose the tooth. For a young woman, that is important and it is a front tooth. Please help with your thoughts and suggestions. She has sent me some pictures which if necessary can be sent too privately.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I know this wasn't asking me, but a friend of mine recently had big-time dentistry done (multiple veneers, procedure was quoted as 6K in the States).

He had the work done in POP for about $600US and was very pleased.

(The dentist recommended a procedure but didn't provide the estimated cost?)

Good luck.

Thank you so much. I just thought of asking people who live in PP which is why I directed to specific people. Little did I think that there might be others who would be into medical tourism. The dentist in question quoted a price along with a suggested procedure but since I plan to pay (there is no way she can afford it) , I thought I would shop around to get some idea of price and procedure.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1419042]I know this wasn't asking me, but a friend of mine recently had big-time dentistry done (multiple veneers, procedure was quoted as 6K in the States).

He had the work done in POP for about $600US and was very pleased.

(The dentist recommended a procedure but didn't provide the estimated cost?)

Good luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1411176]I only mentioned the Playa Dorada taxis for those that decide after walking from FOD to Playa Dorada in the brutal mid day sun that want to return via taxi that they will pay about double the normal cost.

Charles, I would welcome your help in learning more about utilizing the publicos. I use them out of Sosua quite often but not from the main road in Puerto Plata. I am traveling to the DR with an acquaintance of yours and a good friend of Billy's in June, possibly staying at FOD, I'll buy you lunch and drinks though I know you aren't much of a boozer.[/QUOTE]Billy informs me he thinks he won't be around much longer as his health is on the decline.

I just had a broken tooth fixed and my teeth cleaned for $40

[QUOTE=Beersterry;1419489]I just had a broken tooth fixed and my teeth cleaned for $40[/QUOTE]You serious? You mean, root canal, sealing and crown for $40? Perhaps you can PM me the details so we do not bother others? Thanks.

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum and first time to Dominican Repulic. I am trying to book to a 7 day trip to Puerto Plata and will be staying at BLUE BAY VILLAS DORADAS. I am planing to stay 2 nights at FOD and 2 night trip to Sosua. Reason I booked the all inclusive is since its first time in DR I would probably feel more comfortable there albeit not being chica friendly, cost of food and drinks would be probably be similiar to not staying at an AI.

I am basically looking for general tips that a noobie like me may not be privy to, such as best place to stay in Sosua, safety tips, how to maximize my trip, Do / Don'ts etc.

Thank you in advance for any advice, appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1419743]You serious? You mean, root canal, sealing and crown for $40? Perhaps you can PM me the details so we do not bother others? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The orthodontist was young, pretty, and competent. After 4 sittings, and a little over 4 hours of work, xrays, filling, ect. I paid about 110 dollars or 4200 pesos. I have no complaints about the dentistry here, nor with the medical doctors. Cheap, efficient, and they don't have you coming back.

8. Soliciting prostitutes outlawed in Dominican Republic.

Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito has announced that soliciting the services of a prostitute in the Dominican Republic is now against the law. The authorities have been tolerant towards prostitution in the past. Dominguez Brito announced that men caught soliciting the services of a prostitute would be arrested and files on them would be recorded in the judiciary.

Dominguez Brito said that the government would intervene in prostitution centers that are located on George Washington (Malecon) , Sarasota, Duarte, and Ortega why Gasset avenues in Santo Domingo and Calle Del Sol in Santiago."Whoever takes advantage of the poverty of a woman in a situation of vulnerability, the law establishes clearly and rates this as pimping," said Dominguez.

He made the statement during the Corripio Communications Group Weekly Luncheon event, which was also attended by Major General Jose Armando Polanco Gomez, Minister of Interior and Police Jose Ramon Fadul and deputy minister of Interior and Police Washington Gonzalez.

Dominguez Brito said they would not be penalizing sex workers, as reported in El Dia. The attorney general said that his office would be sending people to patrol the areas,"so that people know they are there." Dominguez Brito clarified only the clients would be arrested and sent to justice, not the prostitutes.

I don't think this has been posted often enough on this board. I haven't checked, but if it has now been posted in every DR section, perhaps we should start posting it in the Costa Rica, Colombia and Brazil sections as well.

[QUOTE=Love Seeker; 1420600]8. Soliciting prostitutes outlawed in Dominican Republic.

Dominguez Brito said they would not be penalizing sex workers, as reported in El Dia. The attorney general said that his office would be sending people to patrol the areas,"so that people know they are there." Dominguez Brito clarified only the clients would be arrested and sent to justice, not the prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Of course sex workers will be penalized because they will lose their customers unless the government already has a stimulus package for hookers.

After a hiatus of a few years, I was curious to visit the most recent reincarnation of the Field of Dreams.

Noted the board has not posted reviews of girls for some time, like it used to do, so will focus on that.

Hotels have a few differences, but in the end, it's the girls that bring in the business.

(First, as I started to enter the place, who's the first girl I see? Yohanny, formerly at BlackBeard's. She said she was there working to buy additional equipment for her salon. She still looks great, and is sporting a newly-enhanced bustline, with new, firm-looking C-cups. They look great).

Over the next couple of days, also saw Kilsia ('China') and Saida, who worked at BB way back in 2005.

Overall, the girls were young, almost all in early 20's.

With very few exceptions, they were all very 'natural' looking; looking like the 'hot' girl next-door.

They don't have the jaded or hard-core look or demeanor you see in girls who have been in this line of work for a while.

Cristal; pretty, fine featured face, café au lait skin, light brown hair, slim, curvy, 'spinner' figure. A young 'pro' in the making. Very friendly and great oral skills.

'Blondie; ' cute face, fair-skinned, voluptuous, buxom. Wasn't cut out for Happy Hours, but possibly good one on one.

Marleny aka 'Chupi' (?) Slim, cute face. Impressive muscle tone in legs and bottom (rubbed them down with baby oil, and swear you could bounce a quarter off those cheeks). Not stunning looking, but a lot of fun. She clearly enjoys the job and will try to sell you by offering a girl on girl show in the room with one of her friends. Minus the show, I hooked up with her and different girlfriends on multiple occasions, and it was always a good time. Sweet, fun to hang with. Very fun girl.

Carolina; one of Marleny's girlfriends. About 21, fair-skinned, with strikingly pretty, actress / model quality face with light brown eyes and dimples.
Nice figure, great oral skills. Very sweet girl, GFE. A sweetheart.

Sandra; about 21. Chocolate skin, cute baby face with Bambi eyes. Nice figure, with great legs, bottom. Great oral skills. Very sweet and accommodating. Very good GFE. Also a sweetheart.

Daniela; about 21, with very dark-chocolate skin. Good body, with small, pert breasts and great legs, bottom. Also very sweet and accommodating; tries to please. Very good GFE. Sweetheart.

Yahaira (maybe 21) and Carolina (19). These should be experienced as a matching pair. Yahaira has a slim little 'spinner' body. Her friend Carolina (I will call 'Baby Carolina') maybe 19 with a year-old baby, but she has a drop-dead gorgeous baby face with amazing, dark Bambi eyes, and dark hair. She has a little baby fat, but most is in the right places, with a nice bust and a cute little butt. Yahaira's not a stunner, but a great performer. She and 'Baby' Carolina' got my attention trying to persuade me of their 'blojah' skills. (?) Tried to improve their pronounciation, but they could not pronounce the second letter 'B' in 'blowjo*"). Turned out they were right. A Happy Hour with these two little babes providing double, simultaneous 'blojah' from all angles was so amazing, I had repeat dates.

You may have noted I used terms like baby-face a lot. But so they were. With few exceptions the girls are young, and natural. There were several more there that I simply had no time / money / energy to get to know, but most looked like 'real' girls, not pros. I hope they manage to stay that way for a long time.

It may have been luck of the draw, but I had no complaint about any of the girls I met, and all the names I listed were sweet and a pleasure to be with.

Sweethearts they were, and I felt like in the company of girlfriends rather than play for pay girls. I saw no 'worthless hoes' while I was there. Treat them well.

How a guy treats these girls says a lot about the man he is – or isn't.

(Also observed some low class / no class types visiting. Loud and crude. Called 'Baby' Carolina over to stand in front of them while they ogled her, made comments and pawed her a little bit, like they were buying a horse). A waste of oxygen.

The hotel reminds me of where BB was about 7-8 years ago. Still working out the bugs, but the owners are not stupid, and will go out of their way to make things right when they can. I prefer to pay my bar / food tab daily, and one feature I liked was the itemized computer printout of my tab.

BB is the original and still probably sets the standard for this kind of operation. Both provide a secure environment with quality control.

And both provide local women a place to support themselves and their families without the dangers of working the street.

Both places are recommended for newcomers (or oldcomers) to start out in the DR, without the hassles and risks that come with street action.

I know some sneer and call it 'spoon-feeding', but when I can make it down, I don't have time to waste.

I want to spend my time enjoying lots of seafood. Not fishing all day / night for the adventure or to save a couple of pesos.

"Ceiling fan stirs the air; cigar smoke is swirled.

Fragrance on a pillowcase, and he'll think about the girl.

Spilling wine and sharing good times, she sure could make him smile.

He paid her well, but what the hell, he'll be leaving in a little while.

Havana daydreamin', he's just dreamin' his life away."

Jimmy Buffett

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1418258]I miss her. She was an ultimate puta, not a GFE.

She was not a beautiful and sweet, but her skills probably the best I've ever experienced.

Very professional 3 holer with knowledge of monger's psychology LOL! I've overheard some psychological tips she was giving to the other chica during threesome.

I've heard 2 different versions of what happened to her:

1. She owns a beauty salon.

2. She got married to some former customer.

Or maybe both at the same time.

Rumors are, she might be available sometimes. Anyone knows if it's true?[/QUOTE]Note my most recent post. As of Saturday, she was at FOD.

Y69

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1421791]After a hiatus of a few years, I was curious to visit the most recent reincarnation of the Field of Dreams.

Noted the board has not posted reviews of girls for some time, like it used to do, so will focus on that.

Hotels have a few differences, but in the end, it's the girls that bring in the business.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the excellent report Yanqui69. I will be there beginning June 5th, was only going to stay a couple days but if my experience is as good as yours I may stay a little longer.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1420505]The orthodontist was young, pretty, and competent. After 4 sittings, and a little over 4 hours of work, xrays, filling, ect. I paid about 110 dollars or 4200 pesos. I have no complaints about the dentistry here, nor with the medical doctors. Cheap, efficient, and they don't have you coming back.[/QUOTE]I am going to Sosua / Porta Plata on the 5/21 and I need lots of Dental work. Could you please PM the contact info for a good dentist in the area. I am interested in crowns, fill ins, and a dental implant

I did want to correct one thing in your report Yanqui. The girl you called Saida is actually Sahira. Her cedula says Sayda but she claims her father screwed it up when he registered her birth. She has a new tattoo with the name Sahiret on her hip, that is her daughters name. I have known her for at least 7 years and have traveled all over the island with her including staying at her family home in Azua. I also met her father when he traveled to Boston on a business trip, nice guy but I wanted to kick his ass, he is very wealthy and does shit for his 9 kids, they are dirt poor.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1422119]I did want to correct one thing in your report Yanqui. The girl you called Saida is actually Sahira. Her cedula says Sayda but she claims her father screwed it up when he registered her birth. She has a new tattoo with the name Sahiret on her hip, that is her daughters name. I have known her for at least 7 years and have traveled all over the island with her including staying at her family home in Azua. I also met her father when he traveled to Boston on a business trip, nice guy but I wanted to kick his ass, he is very wealthy and does shit for his 9 kids, they are dirt poor.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's her.

My very first experience at BB was with her and another Azuana, Kenya, on Kenya's first day at BB.

Never got that tight with her, but agree that possibly the worst thing to happen to Dominican women was Dominican men.

Suspect the population would be a lot smaller if child support was enforced.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1421791]You may have noted I used terms like baby-face a lot. But so they were. With few exceptions the girls are young, and natural. There were several more there that I simply had no time / money / energy to get to know, but most looked like 'real' girls, not pros. I hope they manage to stay that way for a long time.

It may have been luck of the draw, but I had no complaint about any of the girls I met, and all the names I listed were sweet and a pleasure to be with. Sweethearts they were, and I felt like in the company of girlfriends rather than play for pay girls. I saw no 'worthless hoes' while I was there. Treat them well.

How a guy treats these girls says a lot about the man he is – or isn't.[/QUOTE]I have never been to FOD / BB as I like the fishing experience as much as eating the fish (LOL) but I had to say, yours was a lovely report, not so much because of facts (for me) but because of its tone and a few things I highlighted here that resonated with me about treating women.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1420505]The orthodontist was young, pretty, and competent. After 4 sittings, and a little over 4 hours of work, xrays, filling, ect. I paid about 110 dollars or 4200 pesos. I have no complaints about the dentistry here, nor with the medical doctors. Cheap, efficient, and they don't have you coming back.[/QUOTE]Please post here or pm the dentist info. I am glad you are happy with her work maybe many more of us will be to.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1422823]Please post here or pm the dentist info. I am glad you are happy with her work maybe many more of us will be to.[/QUOTE]On the 2nd floor in the building that houses the Banco Reserves in front of the central park in Navarette. Easy to get to from Santiago by car or guagua, bus. There are two dentists in the office, the lady who did my root canal was named? Jorge. An implant runs about $100.

Does anyone know if FOD has finally put a heater on their jacuzzi / hot tub / spa? In the past there have been a couple half assed attempts to heat it with solar but it never worked.

On another site the manager said they did not want the thing heated.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1423251]Does anyone know if FOD has finally put a heater on their jacuzzi / hot tub / spa? In the past there have been a couple half assed attempts to heat it with solar but it never worked.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1423315]On another site the manager said they did not want the thing heated.[/QUOTE]Translated, they don't want to pay to heat the thing.

Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1423753]Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

Thanks[/QUOTE]It would have been just as easy to Google your question and get an instant answer.

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1423753]Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Just tell any taxi driver you are looking for Barbra, and they will take you right to her.

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1423753]Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

Thanks[/QUOTE]FOD is directly across from the employee entrance to the resort complex Playa Dorada, any taxi driver will know where Playa Dorada is.

Barba Negra is in the small town of Costambar so the first thing is to tell the taxi driver you want to go to Costambar. Costambar is a gated community, have the taxi driver get directions to Barba Negra from one of the guards at the entrance.

I would give you the directions in spanish but if I don't conjugate my verbs correctly or god forbid I misspell a word Frannie will get his knickers in a twist.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1424054]FOD is directly across from the employee entrance to the resort complex Playa Dorada, any taxi driver will know where Playa Dorada is.

Barba Negra is in the small town of Costambar so the first thing is to tell the taxi driver you want to go to Costambar. Costambar is a gated community, have the taxi driver get directions to Barba Negra from one of the guards at the entrance.

I would give you the directions in spanish but if I don't conjugate my verbs correctly or god forbid I misspell a word Frannie will get his knickers in a twist.[/QUOTE]Well, you could just put it into Spanish, but when people are looking for Black Barbra near Sousa, chances are they don't know a lot of Spanish, so it won't help. Just telling the taxi driver where to go would be a good idea, especially if you can find out the correct name of the place, either Blackbeard's or La Barba Negra, or Field of Dreams or Estadio de los sueños if you want to be silly.

Me gustaría darle las instrucciones en español, pero si no conjugo mis verbos correctamente o Dios no lo quiera que escribir mal una palabra Frannie a conseguir sus bragas en un giro.

Or rather is it a lot more expensive? It seems like the easy way to get to FOD or Blackbeard's is just have them set up transportation unless the cost is a lot different.

[QUOTE=Aardvark;1424096]Or rather is it a lot more expensive? It seems like the easy way to get to FOD or Blackbeard's is just have them set up transportation unless the cost is a lot different.[/QUOTE]It's the same as the standard fare, the problem is that some taxi drivers will try to overcharge you. Have the hotel arrange for pickup.

FOD = Hot Tub. Please get it fixed and keep it warm! Its got a nice location but the last time I was there I took two girls up for what I thought would be a nice relaxing time. It was anything but. I was planning on staying there for 8 days and using it as a base camp while I go exploring in my rental car but am now having second thoughts. BB's Jacuzzi is one of the most amazing attractions in all of the DR!

Taxi's. In Costambar a taxi for the single traveler is not cheap as they are controlled by the Taxi Mafia there. BB's can arrange a pick up at the airport which is nice but not cheap. Find a friend save some money.

FOD is closer to the airport so you can grab any taxi and it is much cheaper. If they do not know where FOD's is just tell them Playa Dorado as the FOD entrance is on the left across from the first entrance. FOD will arrange to have you picked up just like BB's.

If you need a massage or a fuck in Puerto Plata, just call this number 8295912240. However I don't know if they do speak English.

I went to the place, they ask me 2500 Pesos, get down to 1200 for a short time. 20-30 minutes fuck, BBBJ. I had the choice between 2 girls onsite when I was there.

Don't pay more than 1500 for 1hour. The place was near the center, but you will need anyway a moto taxi to go there.

More or less the adress is this one :

Avenue behind new dock dock

Behind Viara Hotel, number 13 on the main street.

That's what I read on the ad, but better to call and ask a driver to understand the adress.

I am a coming into POP and have to stay for a few days at the riu. Nice place but not what I'm here for. I have been researching a bit and have some q's. If you are not staying there are you able to still visit Blackbeard. If yes are there facilities on site to use hourly? Also is it feasible to get a taxi every night to go to sosua and is it even nescessary? I have a good idea of where to go while in sosua and had planned on staying there originally, but can stay at riu for free and include food and alcohol and air for much less. (I am a travel agent trying to save a buck)

[QUOTE=Mikenice2732;1429891]I am a coming into POP and have to stay for a few days at the riu. Nice place but not what I'm here for. I have been researching a bit and have some q's. If you are not staying there are you able to still visit Blackbeard. If yes are there facilities on site to use hourly? Also is it feasible to get a taxi every night to go to sosua and is it even nescessary? I have a good idea of where to go while in sosua and had planned on staying there originally, but can stay at riu for free and include food and alcohol and air for much less. (I am a travel agent trying to save a buck)[/QUOTE]There are three Riu hotels near Maimon. Are you staying in one of those? It is 5 miles from there to Blackbeards. So you will need a cab. Non-residents are welcome at Blackbeards to use the bar and restaurant. If there are spare rooms available you can hire one for short-time sex.

It is about eight miles from the Riu hotels into Puerto Plata. There are chicas in Pto Pta but your problem everywhere you go is that you will have to pay extra for somewhere to do the deed as you will not be able to take girls back to your hotel. You are fortunate that there are several cabanas on your side of Puerto Plata along the main road and there is a cheap one quite near Maimon if you find a local girl.

I used to have success finding girls in Imbert, the next town along the main road after Maimon. If you find one there you could take her to the cheap cabana (sorry, its name escapes me for the moment but all the locals will know it).

Sosua is 26 miles from Maimon. A private taxi from the Riu Hotel to Sosua will cost you 2500 pesos return (about US$61). Maybe more if the driver has a lot of waiting time. Then you have to pay for somewhere to do the deed on top.

You could economise by using public transport. This would cost you about 100 pesos (about US$2. 50) one way to Sosua and will take 70 to 90 minutes depending on how lucky you are with connections. But coming back late at night I would take public transport to Puerto Plata and get a taxi the rest of the way.

If you put the work in and use all the options, yes, you can save money by your way of doing things. But if you want a full-bloodied monger holiday with lots of chicas and reasonable comfort then it would be as cheap, and a lot more fun, to have stayed in Sosua (or Blackbeards or Field of Dreams) and paid regular prices for hotels and airfare.

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[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1430243]I used to have success finding girls in Imbert, the next town along the main road after Maimon.[/QUOTE]Charles, would you elaborate on that a bit. Success how, where, doing what, domenicanas or haitianas? I have passed by that road on the way to PP and back and would appreciate the intel.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1430485]Charles, would you elaborate on that a bit. Success how, where, doing what, domenicanas or haitianas? I have passed by that road on the way to PP and back and would appreciate the intel.[/QUOTE]Nothing to interest you. Just a small town like any other. It claims 30, 000 population (but that must include a vast rural hinterland because it looks much smaller than Montellano, which has 20, 000). I only mentioned it to MikeNice because it is the first town along the main road in the other direction from Maimon and would make a cheap and easy outing for him one evening by guagua or publico. There are about 5 bars there each with a few waitresses and I always found them available at reasonable prices (1000 ST and 1500 TLN). He would need to use a cabana but there is one only a few minutes ride away and slightly cheaper than the ones nearer to Puerto Plata.

The liveliest bar was one out of town about half mile down the side road towards Luperon, located at the junction with the "short cut" from Pto Pta to Luperon.

That was back in the day before I came over to the dark side, so they were all dominicanas bar one, and I found her in a grua of which the entrance is alongside that bar. The Dominicans in the bar were incredulous (and a bit concerned on my behalf) that I would venture into the grua looking for chicas but I had an interesting time there (including meeting simultaneously the oldest and youngest putas I have ever seen in the DR).

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1430685]That was back in the day before I came over to the dark side, so they were all dominicanas bar one, and I found her in a grua of which the entrance is alongside that bar. The Dominicans in the bar were incredulous (and a bit concerned on my behalf) that I would venture into the grua looking for chicas but I had an interesting time there (including meeting simultaneously the oldest and youngest putas I have ever seen in the DR).[/QUOTE]"Came over to the dark side"? Not sure I get that and what is a grua by the way? Thanks much for the information. I will watch these bars when an opportunity comes up but the challenge with waitresses is that you will have to often hang around until they are done and so the times often conflict.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1430782]"Came over to the dark side"? Not sure I get that.[/QUOTE]About four years ago I discovered the greater rewards and lesser amount of hassle that comes from preferring haitianas over dominicanas. I have rarely laid fingers on dominicanas since.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1430782]. what is a grua by the way?[/QUOTE]"Grua" is a crane or a breakdown truck. The Dominican economy used to be mainly based on cutting sugar cane, largely done by seasonal workers migrated from other areas and from Haiti. Often they would create a temporary shanty-town of lean-to shelters around the crane which was the central point for loading the harvest onto trucks and carts. Eventually the word "grua" came to mean a tiny rural Haitian community, even in cases where the cane fields and the cranes themselves had long gone.

"Batey" is the usual word for a rural Haitian village in the DR and usually carries contemptuous implications."Grua" is a step down from that, smaller and even more squalid.

In Sosua,"El Batey" was the Haitian-inhabited cane fields outside the already established town of Los Charamicos where land was sold to Jews to settle. Since then it has become the "posher" part of Sosua.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1430782]I will watch these bars when an opportunity comes up but the challenge with waitresses is that you will have to often hang around until they are done and so the times often conflict.[/QUOTE]Very often true. But many waitresses in bars, pool-halls, dance-halls, etc, outside tourist areas only work for the chance to pick up customers for sex (500 pesos for a quickie) as their wages are minimal (2000 pesos a month would not be unusual). Their bosses understand that and are happy to see them leave for an hour or two and dock their pay or, better, get a salida (typically 300 pesos). May not work if the bar is busy, but how often is that the case?

I have picked up five chicas from three bars in Imbert. Three were OK, one was wonderful, and one turned out to be a coke-head and total psycho but someone more streetwise than myself would have spotted the warning signs immediately.

CP why would you pay 1000 ST to girl at a local dive when you later go on to say that they go for 500?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1431104]CP why would you pay 1000 ST to girl at a local dive when you later go on to say that they go for 500?[/QUOTE]Partly the "gringo tax" but more a question of how they are used. Dominican guys will typically jump onto these girls like buck rabbits and be done in three minutes. I used to sit in my then favourite haunt, El Consulado (now Bermuda Bar), and watch guys go into the back room with the waitresses. First few times I used to think "The girls aren't having much luck with these customers. They obviously cannot agree on price or services offered" as the guy was back in the bar within five minutes before his beer had got warm. Later I realised that was it, job done. Just relieving a need for these guys like taking a dump.

I have had many hundreds of chicas since first visiting the DR but only a handful for less than an hour.

But I wouldn't get too hung up on specific prices. I only meant that the vast majority of paid sexual transactions in the DR are not at Passions, Blackbeards, or Clasico price levels. And that is pretty logical when you think of income levels here. The beer that costs US$1.50 to us is costing a working-class Dominican four to six times that amount in comparison.

Now I get you. The same thing goes on in Asia. The locals are in and out in a couple of minutes doing one position. But us Americans want to go hard in the paint and play porno star.

I am curious. Any idea what the ladies prefer. You are right about the porn influence. I checked out some massage porn videos whose technigues I use very often. I have heard often from the girls that they do not like their home boy.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1431146]Now I get you. The same thing goes on in Asia. The locals are in and out in a couple of minutes doing one position. But us Americans want to go hard in the paint and play porno star.[/QUOTE]

They prefer the same that you would prefer. The most money for the least time and the minimal amount of work. There is a saying that goes around about our Asian brother mongers 3-3-3. 3 inches. 3 minutes. 3000 baht / pesos.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1431013]But many waitresses in bars, pool-halls, dance-halls, etc, outside tourist areas only work for the chance to pick up customers for sex (500 pesos for a quickie) as their wages are minimal (2000 pesos a month would not be unusual).[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for that elaborate explanatory note. I really learned something new.

I knew El Batey was the Jewish outpost. Indeed I almost went to see the museum when I was in Sosua but had no clue of the meaning of the word batey. I also did not know what the game is in the bars and with the bartenders / waitresses. But if it is that, I would assume a woman would not work in a bar close to her neighborhood for fear of losing face, even if such a position were available in her neck of the woods?

Okay welcome back to Deep tv! Our journey takes us to the "Field of Dreams" hotel. I want to shoutout Manizales911 for his chica referral of Sahira Galvan, for those interested a nice "spinner" medioum Brown skinned, very sexy classy look to her. She's always attentive and available, you can do her right there at " field of dreams" or she will come to your hotel. So hit her up on facebook Sahira Galvan. Me and my entourage went to the bikini party, sadly I must admit it was a "train wreck" the music kept, skipping or cutting off, the P. A system was pre school quality, the feed back drew a lot of boos. I must say kudos to ISG member and employee at Fod Niko" he tried unsuccessfully to host the unorganized event. The girls were 4-7, at best, some of the girls were bit over weight, no one girl was a absolute must have, ill post pictures soon, the finest girl there was the waitress that served us she was a solid 8 and 1/2. We had drinks, and played pool, the place was moderately crowded. The paintings or murals left a lot to be desired. My friend was picked to be one of the 3 judges, which made no sense, because the audience not the judges chose the bikini contest winner.

The staff did aim to please, but the girls and the contest was a "train wreck" maybe they might want to be a lot more organized. I didn't meet the infamous member Jesse James, but Niko was awesome. I would defitnitely stay there, but I would import girls from the outside, along with the few on site. Maybe all the hot ones were busy or not there, I was a little disappointed with the contest overall. I will go there again, and a guest to see if maybe that was a fluke.

I shall be at Field of Dreams tomorrow (Sunday) from 1. 00pm and would be pleased to meet any ISG members in the neighbourhood. Look for the old limey quietly decomposing in the shade.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1437019]Okay welcome back to Deep tv! Our journey takes us to the "Field of Dreams" hotel. I want to shoutout Manizales911 for his chica referral of Sahira Galvan, for those interested a nice "spinner" medioum Brown skinned, very sexy classy look to her. She's always attentive and available, you can do her right there at " field of dreams" or she will come to your hotel. So hit her up on facebook Sahira Galvan. Me and my entourage went to the bikini party, sadly I must admit it was a "train wreck" the music kept, skipping or cutting off, the P. A system was pre school quality, the feed back drew a lot of boos. I must say kudos to ISG member and employee at Fod Niko" he tried unsuccessfully to host the unorganized event. The girls were 4-7, at best, some of the girls were bit over weight, no one girl was a absolute must have, ill post pictures soon, the finest girl there was the waitress that served us she was a solid 8 and 1/2. We had drinks, and played pool, the place was moderately crowded. The paintings or murals left a lot to be desired. My friend was picked to be one of the 3 judges, which made no sense, because the audience not the judges chose the bikini contest winner.

The staff did aim to please, but the girls and the contest was a "train wreck" maybe they might want to be a lot more organized. I didn't meet the infamous member Jesse James, but Niko was awesome. I would defitnitely stay there, but I would import girls from the outside, along with the few on site. Maybe all the hot ones were busy or not there, I was a little disappointed with the contest overall. I will go there again, and a guest to see if maybe that was a fluke.[/QUOTE]I just got back from a 6 day stay at FOD, report to follow. I am quite sure the waitress that you are referring to is Jennifer the wife of one of the owners, definitely off the table, I checked, hahaha.

Can anyone please tell how they have flown to Puerto Plata? I have been searching and looking and there appears not to be many.

Airlines that fly into Puerto Plata. I will be leaving from Chicago. I would appreciate the feed back. Thanks

[QUOTE=Commonsenseforu; 1440330]Can anyone please tell how they have flown to Puerto Plata? I have been searching and looking and there appears not to be many.

Airlines that fly into Puerto Plata. I will be leaving from Chicago. I would appreciate the feed back. Thanks[/QUOTE]AA has 1 flight daily arrives in POP around 3:15pm.

[QUOTE=Commonsenseforu; 1440330]Can anyone please tell how they have flown to Puerto Plata? I have been searching and looking and there appears not to be many.

Airlines that fly into Puerto Plata. I will be leaving from Chicago. I would appreciate the feed back. Thanks[/QUOTE]American Airlines has direct flights from Miami, New York, and San Juan, Puerto Rico. You would need to connect through one of these.

United Airlines flies in from Newark.

[QUOTE=Aardvark;1440493]United Airlines flies in from Newark.[/QUOTE]
WOW, United Flies daily NONSTOP out of EWR except Fridays I learned.
JetBlue flies non-stop from JFK on a daily basis.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1440237]I shall be at Field of Dreams tomorrow (Sunday) from 1.00pm and would be pleased to meet any ISG members in the neighbourhood.[/QUOTE]Well, I was there with three friends and our girls.

A good illustration of how we get widely contrasting reports on the same places. I was there a few weeks ago and the place was buzziing, plenty of pretty girls and the bar was busy. Two friends who were staying there couldn't praise the place highly enough.

Today it was dreary. Lots of FoD chicas there looking bored and only two other guys I noticed apart from our group. I didn't eat (I never do midday) but my friends all ordered different things and had to wait forever, the food arrived cold and was, they said, awful. Even our normally hungry haitianas couldn't eat it.

On leaving I went to the bar to pay my small tab (a few cokes). Instead of taking my money the girl behind the bar wandered off to find her colleague. Eventually it transpired that the girl for whom she was looking was seated a few feet away all the time. WTF? Anyone not competent or trustworthy enough to take the money for a few cokes should not be standing behind the bar in the first place.

It was the first time that I have been there that none of the three partners was present. We spotted none of them in the two hours we were there. I imagine that had a lot to do with the relapse into normal Dominican standards of service. If so, I hope it was a rare exception as I don't think any of my friends will be back in a hurry.

I think I have the name correct. At any rate the market close to Blackbeard's where you can get money exchanged at a good rate.

Thanks

Just returned and it was 41.3.

Radpoker

[QUOTE=Aardvark; 1441994]I think I have the name correct. At any rate the market close to Blackbeard's where you can get money exchanged at a good rate.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Blackbeards Adult Resort would like to invite all ISG members to join us for our 210th Bikini Contest at Blackbeards – this coming Saturday – July 13th – Rain or Shine at 4pm!

There is a minimal cover charge of Road$200 Pesos and your ticket is good for one free small Presidente or Rum and Coke. Sixteen Sexy Shipmates will be competing and if you haven't seen our show – you should take this opportunity to have some fun at Blackbeards!

Hope You Can Make it!

El Capitan

Hi guys,

Going to be in northern coast DR at the end of the month. Thinking about visiting FOD.

I've been seeing a real mix in the reports. Some say its great, others say its dead. Has anyone been able to figure out any pattern to it? For example, is hopping on Friday and Sat night, but dead Mon-Th?

[quote=manny51; 1444431]hi guys,

going to be in northern coast dr at the end of the month. thinking about visiting fod.

i've been seeing a real mix in the reports. some say its great, others say its dead. has anyone been able to figure out any pattern to it? for example, is hopping on friday and sat night, but dead mon-th?[/quote]i spent six days there recently and have not posted a report yet, i have been too busy. the reason for the conflicting reports is that the liveliness of the resort literally changes hour by hour. they get a ton of transient traffic through there, both locals and tourists, so it can go from dead to jumping in no time, i was amazed. also, this time of the year is low season for the entire island and fod will be booked solid one day and near empty another. when i was there there were several days that they were almost full and several days when they only had a few rooms booked but even when there were only a few guys staying there there were times when the bar was packed.

there was always at least 15-20 girls there, always. there have been reports of only a handful of girls being there, you have to look around, there will be pockets of girls sitting at various spots around the resort. also, keep in mind if the bar is dead some of the girls might be in the back where some of them live and also sitting outside of the bar area. the other thing to keep in mind is that the girls come in three shifts versus two shifts at bb's so the inventory changes all day long. i strongly dispute the reports that the pickings were slim or that the quality was suspect, that is simply not true. i have been to the north coast many many times and have stayed at both bb's and fod as well as in sosua and the quality in my opinion is definitely better than bb's.

i booked my stay there with intentions of using fod simply as a home base but i ended up spending more time than i had planned to because i had such a good time. i tend to create my own party atmosphere anyway but the staff was real cool peeps and me and my wingman just had a blast staying there. i have been to the dr at least 25 times and this trip ranked right near the top.

i will post a long assed report including some photos for guys to judge for themselves, just don't know when.

any senior members that need specific info don't hesitate to pm me. i'm not trying to be an a-hole but i constantly get pm's from guys with zero or one report and it's like wtf.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1444440]I spent six days there recently and have not posted a report yet, I have been too busy. The reason for the conflicting reports is that the liveliness of the resort literally changes hour by hour. They get a TON of transient traffic through there, both locals and tourists, so it can go from dead to jumping in no time, I was amazed. Also, this time of the year is low season for the entire island and FOD will be booked solid one day and near empty another. When I was there there were several days that they were almost full and several days when they only had a few rooms booked but even when there were only a few guys staying there there were times when the bar was packed.

There was always at least 15-20 girls there, always. I booked my stay there with intentions of using FOD simply as a home base but I ended up spending more time than I had planned to because I had such a good time. I have been to the DR at least 25 times and this trip ranked right near the top.

WTF.[/QUOTE]Thanks Manizales! Looking forward to your report.

One quick question though, as I am finalizing my plans. I am thinking strongly of renting a car. I went to be able to go the 27 waterfalls, and kiteboarding / surfing when I want. I will base in either FOD or Oxygen.

I see that you have been there many times. Do you think that renting a car is a good idea? The local taxi fares seem pricey, something like $44 just to check out BB. Splitting it with a friend of mine, by my calculation, a rental car would be a great deal. Is there something that I am missing?

My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents. I would only drive on the main coastal road and have no intention of going inland. Do cars get vandalized or broken into left and right?

Also, my trip will coincide with the Merengue festival in SD. Have you been there before, and it is the festival worth it? Its weird, everything I read about the festival said it is over 2 weeks long, but this year, it is only 2 days long. It seems that it might be dying.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Manny51;1444707]My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents.[/QUOTE]Why? Are you some sort of Teflon superhero?

There are plenty of posts here on the advantages and disadvantages of renting a car. Read them, and be aware of the issues before you decide.

But if you are just going to motor up and down the main road that eliminates one of the commonly cited reasons to renting a car, the ability to get off the beaten track. You can do that without needing private taxis, though I am surprised cost is an issue if you can afford Oxygen

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1444743]Why? Are you some sort of Teflon superhero?

There are plenty of posts here on the advantages and disadvantages of renting a car. Read them, and be aware of the issues before you decide.

But if you are just going to motor up and down the main road that eliminates one of the commonly cited reasons to renting a car, the ability to get off the beaten track. You can do that without needing private taxis, though I am surprised cost is an issue if you can afford Oxygen[/QUOTE]What's with the attitude? I was asking Manizales for his personal opinion, as he has been to the DR over 40+ times. No one is talking to you, so keep your attitude to yourself.

I like the freedom of coming and going when I please. I HAVE read the forums. It seems that a taxis are controlled by the taxi mafia, charging something like $40 for a ride from Sosua to Costambar. I am paying $115 for a car for four days. And having a car lets me fly into Santiago, which is much cheaper. You basically get the car for free. From an economic standpoint, its the smart move.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1444755]What's with the attitude? I was asking Manizales for his personal opinion, as he has been to the DR over 40+ times. No one is talking to you, so keep your attitude to yourself.[/QUOTE]Manizales is indeed a knowledgeable and balanced poster whose opinion you rightly value, but anything posted on the open board is fair game for anyone to stick their oar in. If your question was only for Manizales' eyes you should have sent him a PM. But it is better to post on the open board so all can benefit on those occasions something new and useful is posted.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1444755]I like the freedom of coming and going when I please. I HAVE read the forums. It seems that a taxis are controlled by the taxi mafia, charging something like $40 for a ride from Sosua to Costambar. I am paying $115 for a car for four days. And having a car lets me fly into Santiago, which is much cheaper. You basically get the car for free. From an economic standpoint, its the smart move.[/QUOTE]You make out a good case, but you should be aware of the downsides. Fatal accidents are extremely common, forty times as frequent per driver mile as in the UK. And there are many scams practiced on gringo drivers by police and others. You should make sure you have access to the Casa del Conductor service included in your insurance. This will insure that if do have the misfortune to be involved in an accident where someone is injured (or fraudulently claims to be injured) you will be taken to a sort of cheap hotel with access to a phone, food, and medical attention if needed, instead of being thrown into some fetid shithole with a dozen naked hoodlums for three or more weeks while the police, the lawyers and any real or invented witnesses squabble about how much they will screw out of you and how to divide it up.

You seem to have already made up your mind without the benefit of Manizales' wise advice, so I will just wish you "Happy Motoring!"

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1444763]Fatal accidents are extremely common, forty times as frequent per driver mile as in the UK.[/QUOTE]Sorry, that was an exaggeration. I should have written "forty times as frequent per vehicle occupant mile" (reflecting the fact that vehicles in the DR would carry a lot more occupants on average). And of course the other main reason for so many deaths is the extreme unlikelihood of expert medical attention arriving promptly at the scene and the low level of expertise and equipment in all but a handful of private hospitals in the two main cities. However mangled someone is in a UK or US accident their lives will normally be saved, but in the DR you could be left to bleed to death for something comparatively minor.

That is why I commented on your saying "accidents are not my main concern". They should be. Easier to replace your billfold than your legs.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1444707]Thanks Manizales! Looking forward to your report.

One quick question though, as I am finalizing my plans. I am thinking strongly of renting a car. I went to be able to go the 27 waterfalls, and kiteboarding / surfing when I want. I will base in either FOD or Oxygen.

I see that you have been there many times. Do you think that renting a car is a good idea? The local taxi fares seem pricey, something like $44 just to check out BB. Splitting it with a friend of mine, by my calculation, a rental car would be a great deal. Is there something that I am missing?

My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents. I would only drive on the main coastal road and have no intention of going inland. Do cars get vandalized or broken into left and right?

Also, my trip will coincide with the Merengue festival in SD. Have you been there before, and it is the festival worth it? Its weird, everything I read about the festival said it is over 2 weeks long, but this year, it is only 2 days long. It seems that it might be dying.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I refuse to rent a car in the DR because I won't take the risk however remote of getting into an accident and going to jail because someone gets hurt. When I was at FOD I talked to a guy who visits the DR frequently and he has not once, but twice hit moto driverswhile driving a rental car, fuck that. There have been numerous reports of guys going to jail due to accidents over the years. I can afford other means of transportation. I look at it this way. 99% of the locals don't have cars and they get around the island, right?

Economically speaking it may make sense to some people that have gotten screwed over by the thieving taxistas but I have the numbers of three taxi drivers who are as reasonable as it gets on the north coast. I have also somewhat learned to use the publicos, I still need to learn more about their routes though. I only use motoconchos on secondary roads and for short trips only, I hate getting on them but I do it.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1444772]That is why I commented on your saying "accidents are not my main concern". They should be. Easier to replace your billfold than your legs.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more Charles. While on my last trip I saw what looked like a fatal accident on my way to Maimon for a seafood lunch, a car and one of those trucks that they use for hauling produce, it wasn't pretty. Those sights solidify my beliefs, but to each their own.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1444788]I refuse to rent a car in the DR because I won't take the risk however remote of getting into an accident and going to jail because someone gets hurt. When I was at FOD I talked to a guy who visits the DR frequently and he has not once, but twice hit moto driverswhile driving a rental car, fuck that. There have been numerous reports of guys going to jail due to accidents over the years. I can afford other means of transportation. I look at it this way. 99% of the locals don't have cars and they get around the island, right?

Economically speaking it may make sense to some people that have gotten screwed over by the thieving taxistas but I have the numbers of three taxi drivers who are as reasonable as it gets on the north coast. I have also somewhat learned to use the publicos, I still need to learn more about their routes though. I only use motoconchos on secondary roads and for short trips only, I hate getting on them but I do it.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. At first, my main concern was of the car getting broken into while I was at the beach, and dealing with the hassle of insurance claims. Of course, I would never rent the car while in a metro area, like San Jose CR or Santo Domingo. That's crazy. But I have rented cars in Mexico (Cabos) and Costa Rica whenever I was on the coast, and have never had problems. I just make sure to drive only in the daytime, and very very conservatively. I always make sure that I am covered with insurance, both collision and liability. I'll be driving to the beach and back to whatever hotel / resort. Going to party at night, we would probably take a cab anyway, even with the rental car.

This is only my second time to the DR. I suppose someone who has been there many times and knows the "system" can manage. But if I am basically driving to and from the airport, and along the main coastal road, is it really that big a risk? Is it a type of thing where you have heard some horror stories, etc. Or is it a truly common thing for tourists to get in trouble with their cars along the coast? Are police officers routinely actively trying to screw tourists, like in some parts of Mexico?

[quote=manny51; 1444755]what's with the attitude? i was asking manizales for his personal opinion, as he has been to the dr over 40+ times. no one is talking to you, so keep your attitude to yourself.

i like the freedom of coming and going when i please. i have read the forums. it seems that a taxis are controlled by the taxi mafia, charging something like $40 for a ride from sosua to costambar. i am paying $115 for a car for four days. and having a car lets me fly into santiago, which is much cheaper. you basically get the car for free. from an economic standpoint, its the smart move.[/quote]you can get from sosua to costambar with high speed public taxis for the cost of half a gallon of gasoline. for double the price you can have two seats. tourist taxis are expensive. possibly they are affiliated with the taxi mafiosi in the us.

i think it is ok to drive a rental car, but try to look like a businessman, not a monger and you will get less hassle. do not drink and drive under any circumstances.

i do not rent in the dr. i am sure most times it is very safe. however the potential for desaster is just not worth it for me. when i go to the north coast i stay in sosua. no car needed. when i am in sd i use cabs. the one time you hit something with a rental car you are in a panic which you have no control over. i keep things simple and max my fun.

[quote=frannie; 1444802]you can get from sosua to costambar with high speed public taxis for the cost of half a gallon of gasoline. for double the price you can have two seats. tourist taxis are expensive. possibly they are affiliated with the taxi mafiosi in the us.

i think it is ok to drive a rental car, but try to look like a businessman, not a monger and you will get less hassle. do not drink and drive under any circumstances.[/quote]

[quote=frannie; 1444802]you can get from sosua to costambar with high speed public taxis for the cost of half a gallon of gasoline. for double the price you can have two seats. tourist taxis are expensive. possibly they are affiliated with the taxi mafiosi in the us.

i think it is ok to drive a rental car, but try to look like a businessman, not a monger and you will get less hassle. do not drink and drive under any circumstances.[/quote]ok, i'll let report on how the rental went. hopefully it goes fine.

btw, if anyone else is thinking about it, i got my rental at alamo at sti, with liability insurance included, for less than $30 / day. splitting it with my buddy, that's $15 / day each. that was just too cheap to pass up. i'll do my best not to end up in jail!

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1444823]Ok, I'll let report on how the rental went. Hopefully it goes fine.

BTW, if anyone else is thinking about it, I got my rental at Alamo at STI, with liability insurance included, for less than $30 / day. Splitting it with my buddy, that's $15 / day each. That was just too cheap to pass up. I'll do my best not to end up in jail![/QUOTE]I rent a car from Alamo 70 percent of the time in the DR, and its no problem. Make sure you check the spare and don't rent one of those cheap cars that looks like an egg. The cops know cheap gringos rent those. If you get pulled just play "dumb gringo" and they will get frustrated and move on. I've been reading your posts and you seem like a defensive driver. Watch for motochonchos turning left in front of you from the right shoulder lane. Slow down when you see kids playing near the street and be prepared if that kid does some stupid shit. The open roads are cool to roll. Don't give cops the "I hope he doesn't fuck with me " look.

If something does happen involving a person its best to take him to the clinic and pay him off. If he goes to the hospital the police will get involved. Don't drive on the north coast at night. It has many roads there that are deserted and very lonely should you have an emergency. Pot holes will pop up out of nowhere at night. SD has more traffic and people and more safe to me at night. But trolling the streets of SD now has become risky because of the new law.

The secret is that you can meet some nice girls on the side of the road needing a ride. If they are going to work trade numbers and hook something up for later. Some might be up for a quickie at the cabana to make money that would take them two weeks of work on their low paying job. You seem like a mellow dude so you will have a ball. Don't be one of those ass holes that goes to the DR to play tough and disrespect the people and the culture. There is to much value in going with the flow than going against it.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1444795]Hmmm. At first, my main concern was of the car getting broken into while I was at the beach, and dealing with the hassle of insurance claims. Of course, I would never rent the car while in a metro area, like San Jose CR or Santo Domingo. That's crazy. But I have rented cars in Mexico (Cabos) and Costa Rica whenever I was on the coast, and have never had problems. I just make sure to drive only in the daytime, and very very conservatively. I always make sure that I am covered with insurance, both collision and liability. I'll be driving to the beach and back to whatever hotel / resort. Going to party at night, we would probably take a cab anyway, even with the rental car.

This is only my second time to the DR. I suppose someone who has been there many times and knows the "system" can manage. But if I am basically driving to and from the airport, and along the main coastal road, is it really that big a risk? Is it a type of thing where you have heard some horror stories, etc. Or is it a truly common thing for tourists to get in trouble with their cars along the coast? Are police officers routinely actively trying to screw tourists, like in some parts of Mexico?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/07/a-map-of-the-countries-with-the-most-dangerous-roads/[/url]

The DR is THE most dangerous country for highway fatalities on the planet currently. A drunk moto concho runs into you while you are standing still, you go to jail until they sort things out. In jail you and several dozen new close friends and a bucket share a small cell.

Lot's of guys report driving all the time with no problems but don't go into it thinking the biggest problem is getting the car broken into at the beach. Yes the police routinely try to squeeze bribes but if you have an accident everybody will line up to share the jackpot.

Read some of the reports about driving accident adventures so you are properly paranoid and not doing it without a clue about the risks.

Notice from the map in the Washington Post story that Mexico and Costa Rica aren't in the same league.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1444788]When I was at FOD I talked to a guy who visits the DR frequently and he has not once, but twice hit moto driverswhile driving a rental car,[/QUOTE]And what did that guy say happened to him?

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1444823]Ok, I'll let report on how the rental went. Hopefully it goes fine.

BTW, if anyone else is thinking about it, I got my rental at Alamo at STI, with liability insurance included, for less than $30 / day. Splitting it with my buddy, that's $15 / day each. That was just too cheap to pass up. I'll do my best not to end up in jail![/QUOTE]I have done a quote on Alamo US site 4 days mid week in August 5 to 9, 2013 for example:

Chevy Spark 0. 8 (or similar)

4 Day (s) at17. 10 USD68. 40

Airport Fee 10 Pct (10. 0%) USD 19. 12

Veh License Recovery Fee. 95 / day USD 3. 80

Sales Tax (18. 0%) USD 37. 86

UNLIMITED MILEAGE INCLUDED

Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 / Day (s) USD 78. 00 (This one includes 3rd party liability!)

Deductible Protection (USD 6. 50 / Day (s) USD 26. 00

Tire and Windshield Protection (USD 3. 75 / Day (s) USD 15. 00

Estimated Total USD248. 18

There are only ways, or your vehicle is not properly insured, or you know where to cut on the quote (like airport fee and taxes etc, however unlikely if taken from Alamo at STI).

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony; 1444872][url]Http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/07/a-map-of-the-countries-with-the-most-dangerous-roads/[/url]

The DR is THE most dangerous country for highway fatalities on the planet currently.[/QUOTE]If the stats (I haven't read the article) don't distinguish between accidents in passenger vehicles, buses, or motorcycles; then the argument could be made that it would be SAFEST in the DR to drive a late model rental car with all the first world safety features (airbags, anti-lock brakes, seatbelts, etc) than to ride in a taxi (usually a 10+ yr-old beat-up car) or a guagua (no seatbelts, high center of gravity hence tendency to flip over) and most definitely than on a motoconcho (100% no helmet if you're a tourist).

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1444772]That is why I commented on your saying "accidents are not my main concern". They should be. Easier to replace your billfold than your legs.[/QUOTE]For this reason I will take a perceived risk of getting tangled up with the local police for bribes, than to risk my life and limbs on the back of a motoconcho.

Full disclosure: I don't rent cars all the time in the DR. My preferred mode of transportation is the guagua.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1444879]And what did that guy say happened to him?[/QUOTE]He threw $60. At one of the guys and took off, I don't think he told me what he did in the other incident. This guy was an experienced DR traveler and knew enough to not wait around for the police, he is a member here so maybe he will chime in.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony; 1444872][url]Http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/07/a-map-of-the-countries-with-the-most-dangerous-roads/[/url]

The DR is THE most dangerous country for highway fatalities on the planet currently. A drunk moto concho runs into you while you are standing still, you go to jail until they sort things out. In jail you and several dozen new close friends and a bucket share a small cell.

Lot's of guys report driving all the time with no problems but don't go into it thinking the biggest problem is getting the car broken into at the beach. Yes the police routinely try to squeeze bribes but if you have an accident everybody will line up to share the jackpot.

Read some of the reports about driving accident adventures so you are properly paranoid and not doing it without a clue about the risks.

Notice from the map in the Washington Post story that Mexico and Costa Rica aren't in the same league.[/QUOTE]Marc Anthony,

Thanks for the article! Wow, this is scary stuff. I am actually reconsidering now.

Its just that cabs are SO expensive. STI to Cabarete is $75! I could easily see racking up $300 in taxi fare over a few days.

If I rent a car, then I will be the one entangled in the police report. If I am riding the motoconcho, then I'll be the dead one. Doesn't seem like there are any good options.

Anyone else, please chime in, especially if you have rented a car before!

[QUOTE=Questner; 1444910]I have done a quote on Alamo US site 4 days mid week in August 5 to 9, 2013 for example:

Chevy Spark 0. 8 (or similar)

4 Day (s) at17. 10 USD68. 40

Airport Fee 10 Pct (10. 0%) USD 19. 12

Veh License Recovery Fee. 95 / day USD 3. 80

Sales Tax (18. 0%) USD 37. 86

UNLIMITED MILEAGE INCLUDED

Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 / Day (s) USD 78. 00 (This one includes 3rd party liability!)

Deductible Protection (USD 6. 50 / Day (s) USD 26. 00

Tire and Windshield Protection (USD 3. 75 / Day (s) USD 15. 00

Estimated Total USD248. 18

There are only ways, or your vehicle is not properly insured, or you know where to cut on the quote (like airport fee and taxes etc, however unlikely if taken from Alamo at STI).[/QUOTE]I don't know why your quote is so expensive. I just went to Alamo. Com. I checked the box to decline collision. The credit card covers tires and windshield and undercarriage. The whole car. I called to check. But they don't supply liability, so I did buy that. The quote says all taxes and fees included. I also had an coupon code that reduced the daily rate from 17 to 15.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1444843]I rent a car from Alamo 70 percent of the time in the DR, and its no problem. Make sure you check the spare and don't rent one of those cheap cars that looks like an egg. The cops know cheap gringos rent those. If you get pulled just play "dumb gringo" and they will get frustrated and move on. I've been reading your posts and you seem like a defensive driver. Watch for motochonchos turning left in front of you from the right shoulder lane. Slow down when you see kids playing near the street and be prepared if that kid does some stupid shit. The open roads are cool to roll. Don't give cops the "I hope he doesn't fuck with me " look.

If something does happen involving a person its best to take him to the clinic and pay him off. If he goes to the hospital the police will get involved. Don't drive on the north coast at night. It has many roads there that are deserted and very lonely should you have an emergency. Pot holes will pop up out of nowhere at night. SD has more traffic and people and more safe to me at night. But trolling the streets of SD now has become risky because of the new law.

The secret is that you can meet some nice girls on the side of the road needing a ride. If they are going to work trade numbers and hook something up for later. Some might be up for a quickie at the cabana to make money that would take them two weeks of work on their low paying job. You seem like a mellow dude so you will have a ball. Don't be one of those ass holes that goes to the DR to play tough and disrespect the people and the culture. There is to much value in going with the flow than going against it.[/QUOTE]'

Mr. Gogo,

Thanks for the great advice! I just upgraded my car. Still only $136!

BTW, what did you mean by "the open roads are cool to roll?"

[quote=manny51;1445093]i am actually reconsidering now.[/quote]despite your unfriendly reply to me because i was not saying what you wanted to hear, i was not necessarily advising you not to rent. many of our regular and sensible posters have been doing so for years and have experienced no great problems.

i was only advising you to inform yourself of the issues. it seems that you are now doing that from much good info posted, so i am happy.

[quote=manny51;1445093]its just that cabs are so expensive.[/quote]they are. if you are in a group of three or more it is no big deal because the cabs charge by mile and not by number of passengers, so even an expensive fare split three or more ways can be the best option.

and even if you are solo, some cabs are cheaper than others, as manizales has written.

one option is look to share with other mongers staying at the same location. they will often fancy an outing if they can split costs.

another tip is to rent a dedicated publico where available (that is, at the sosua or puerto plata paradas or if you spot an empty one on the road). you should be able to negotiate them at half the price of a private cab. sosua to blackbeards is 1000 pesos by private cab and 500 in a dedicated publico. doesn't work the other way though, as publicos are not allowed into costambar to pick up passengers.

[quote=manny51;1445093]doesn't seem like there are any good options.[/quote]there are no perfect options because this a third world shithole run by crooks and imbeciles. but some options are better than others and the best approach is to pick the appropriate means of transport for each journey.

(1) anywhere along the main road from san juan to santiago, use publicos or guaguas. fast and very cheap. for greater comfort pay for two adjacent seats (an option not always available unless you are boarding at the terminus, in which case pay for both "halves" of the bucket front seat).

(2) short local trips away from the main roads or within towns, use a moto. avoid using them along main roads or in heavy traffic. avoid taking one to lonely locations or you could get scammed or mugged. i always look for a veteran driver, ideally wearing a helmet and with wing mirrors. less likely to drive with macho competitive spirit or be on drugs.

(3) longer trips from sosua or puerto plata city to destinations well away from the main road, go to the publico terminus and hire a dedicated publico. negotiate the price in advance, not more than half what a private taxi has quoted you.

(4) staying at blackbeards? you are fucked. no cheap and easy way to get off campus and worse trying to get back at night. cheapest option by day is to walk or take a moto to the main gate and then catch a jc publico from there to pto pta, then change again according to where you want to go. but harder to get back as the jcs don't run at night, so a taxi is your best bet.

and so on, i cannot list every permutation as i don't know your itinerary, but horses for courses.

[quote=manny51;1445093]i always make sure that i am covered with insurance, both collision and liability[/quote]
sorry, this is not the right answer. most policies won't cover you against the biggest risk (not in likelihood but in magnitude). read what i said below about the casa del conductor.

three(?) years back one of our members had to pay about us$10,000 to get out of jail after a minor incident in which he was only technically partly to blame. the moto driver he hit was overtaking him at speed on the wrong side. he went through hell and as far as i know has never driven here since. it is all posted here in detail.

incidentally, had he followed some advice about the route which i had posted on another board of which we were both members, he wouldn't have had the accident in the first place, but some guys just won't be told.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1445093]Marc Anthony,

Thanks for the article! Wow, this is scary stuff. I am actually reconsidering now.

Its just that cabs are SO expensive. STI to Cabarete is $75! I could easily see racking up $300 in taxi fare over a few days.

If I rent a car, then I will be the one entangled in the police report. If I am riding the motoconcho, then I'll be the dead one. Doesn't seem like there are any good options.

Anyone else, please chime in, especially if you have rented a car before![/QUOTE]The Metro and Caribe busses run from STI to Sosua. I can't vouch for Caribe, but I've taken Metro several times and they are great. Not sure if they go on to Cabarete. I have also taken a taxi from STI to Sosua and bargained them down to $80 (from initla $100 asking price). I try to avoid Motos even in Sosua . I'd never take them on the open road.

[QUOTE=Combo;1445124]Not sure if they go on to Cabarete.[/QUOTE]No, they don't.

[QUOTE=Combo;1445124]I try to avoid Motos even in Sosua. I'd never take them on the open road.[/QUOTE]I think you mean "especially" in Sosua. Motos in Sosua are more expensive than elsewhere and the drivers are mostly scum. What do you expect? It's Sosua.

Motoconchistas in Puerto Plata are generally a much nicer bunch and there are a couple I trust with thousands of pesos to shop or pay biils.

I have ridden motos in Puerto Plata at least five thousand times. I have had one accident and only twisted my ankle a bit. I was very lucky though, as the driver was hurt worse and his bike wrecked. But then he wasn't a regular motoconchista, just a puta's' pimp doing me a "favor".

Where I live and with my commitments I have to use motos regularly but I cannot pretend they are not dangerous and I never try to persuade newbies to ride one if they are at all nervous about it. I try to minimise the danger by:

- picking a grizzled driver because the locos don't survive to middle age.

- choosing one who wears a helmet and has rear-view mirrors as it means he is safety conscious.

- if the road is wet I pay them double to drive real slow.

- having a selection of trusted drivers on my phone, an option only open to ex-pats and regular visitors

- like Combo, rarely use them for main road trips

- choosing a Haitian driver where available. They are more careful because they know if they are involved in an incident, no Dominican will give them a fair break

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1445122]Despite your unfriendly reply to me because I was not saying what you wanted to hear, I was not necessarily advising you not to rent. Many of our regular and sensible posters have been doing so for years and have experienced no great problems.

Incidentally, had he followed some advice about the route which I had posted on another board of which we were both members, he wouldn't have had the accident in the first place, but some guys just won't be told.[/QUOTE]Although I do appreciate your input, go back and read your own initial post to decide who was being snide first.

I just don't get guys who roam these forums, looking to lash out at people who are asking questions they don't approve of.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1445100]'

Mr. Gogo,

Thanks for the great advice! I just upgraded my car. Still only $136!

BTW, what did you mean by "the open roads are cool to roll?"[/QUOTE]The open roads are where there arent any houses, animals, or people. Just fall in behind a Dominican driving an Suv and roll behind them. They are familiar with the curves and potholes. If driving from STI there are two ways. One I can't recommend to a first time DR driver is through the mountains. It comes out closer to Sosua but is dangerous. Take the main highway through Confesori and Puerto Plata, its much better.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1445097]I don't know why your quote is so expensive. I just went to Alamo. Com. I checked the box to decline collision. The credit card covers tires and windshield and undercarriage. The whole car. I called to check. But they don't supply liability, so I did buy that. The quote says all taxes and fees included. I also had an coupon code that reduced the daily rate from 17 to 15.[/QUOTE]In simple terms one has to buy Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 per Day including 3rd party liability) if CC balance is not sufficient to cover theft or total loss, or buy only Casa de Conductor (I. E 3rd party liability for $9 per day) if CC balance is sufficient to cover theft or total loss and the agreement stipulates this with all small print understood.

[QUOTE=Questner;1445207]In simple terms one has to buy Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 per Day including 3rd party liability) if CC balance is not sufficient to cover theft or total loss, or buy only Casa de Conductor (I. E 3rd party liability for $9 per day) if CC balance is sufficient to cover theft or total loss and the agreement stipulates this with all small print understood.[/QUOTE]I checked all my credit cards. They cover the full value of the car (up to 50k) plus loss of use. Buying CDW is what screws you. Thats an extra 20 per day.

Maybe you should get some new credit cards. Any Amex or platinum mastercard should do the trick.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1445711]I checked all my credit cards. They cover the full value of the car (up to 50k) plus loss of use. Buying CDW is what screws you. Thats an extra 20 per day.

Maybe you should get some new credit cards. Any Amex or platinum mastercard should do the trick.[/QUOTE]You miss my point. Without CDW unless the company successfully charges the full amount on your CC in case of a loss, you are screwed, stuck in the country and a stop on your exit will be put in place. Without a proper balance one is screwed by a definition of insufficient balance. With a sufficient balance CC company won't rush to pay until the investigation is finished and it will take time, and by that time your flight will be gone and a vacation extended. Since a Casa de Conductor is as sane as wearing a condom, consider extra $10 bucks of total loss protection as lube. Declining CDW is OK in your home country but not in DR.

[QUOTE=Questner;1445941]You miss my point. Without CDW unless the company successfully charges the full amount on your CC in case of a loss, you are screwed, stuck in the country and a stop on your exit will be put in place. Without a proper balance one is screwed by a definition of insufficient balance. With a sufficient balance CC company won't rush to pay until the investigation is finished and it will take time, and by that time your flight will be gone and a vacation extended. Since a Casa de Conductor is as sane as wearing a condom, consider extra $10 bucks of total loss protection as lube. Declining CDW is OK in your home country but not in DR.[/QUOTE]OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1446058]OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]The Casa de Conductor is a hotel-like accomodation near the jail where you can be housed instead of at the jail (which is not like a US jail). It's intended for professional drivers but is available to anyone who buys the insurance rider. It's a side bet to make your experience less nightmarish if you get in an accident.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1446058]OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]Casa de Conductor read here: [url]http://www.insurance-sosua.com/pes/?idp=37[/url]

CMA Casa de Conductor Dominican Republic/

Protective custody.

The use of protective custody?

Imagine you are involved in a car accident with heavy injured or dead people. The Police and the victims don't have comprehension and you should go to a local prison until the case is cleared. Also the law is not executed the same way in the provinces then in the capital cities like Santo Domingo or Santiago.

Here begins the protective custody. You will brought to a complex similar to a hotel. You will be save till the evidence / guarantee procedural. There are only two in the Dominican Republic which are located in two mayor cities. There it is assured that the law is respected more accurately.

The C M A protective custody is included in every full- or semi full insurance. In the basic liability insurance this is a useful addition for personal safety. We recommend this insurance for everybody who travels a lot around the Island.

Your claim:

•The Police Report will be filled out by the authorized Officers of the relevant district were the accident happen or in the C M A Casa de Conductor, in case of necessity (Provinces).

•To guarantee that the responsible Police, Doctors and Prosecutor (Fiscal) and the Justice of peace approved the case in the right way.

•The guarantee or penalty will be deposited at the local tax authority (Rentas Internas ).

•In case heavy injury or death is involved the C M A protective custody in Santiago or Santo Domingo takes action.

•The service is 24 hours and 365 days a year available. You will be picket up from every point of the island and brought to C M A Casa de Conductores.

The C M A Casa de Conductores (House of drivers)

Protective custody in single rooms with air condition, Bath, Full board, Medical help. Hair saloon, Pool, Bar in the House. Visiting hours till 08:30 pm.

! Attention!

If you get involved into a traffic accident, please call immediately and inform the police that you have an additional C M A Casa de Conductore insurance. Then the transport to C M A house of drivers can begin, were ever on the island you are. If your own car is not operating we will provide one.

Be aware that at Night and on Weekends Offices are closed and the Casa de Conductor can be a helpful tool, in case of custody or violence by local authorities! In any case your insurance will be checked for coverage.

Requirement for C M A additional insurance

Running Liability insurance, Copy of car titel (Matricula) , Recite of C M A insurance.

Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards? If so, what is the deal, I visited the website and it talks about how it is an adult full service resort, and that the want to give you a pleasurable experience, blah blah blah. What I want to know is are there girls on premises for your pleasure. Because it don't say it does nor does it post any pricing for services like with passions. Like I said, first timer here, could use a lot of suggestions of the where's, eat, drink, girls, plain old fun. BTW I am thinking of heading down to Santo Domingo for a few days too, so any advice there would be helpful.

[QUOTE=Earlohara;1447044]Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards? If so, what is the deal, I visited the website and it talks about how it is an adult full service resort, and that the want to give you a pleasurable experience, blah blah blah. What I want to know is are there girls on premises for your pleasure. Because it don't say it does nor does it post any pricing for services like with passions. Like I said, first timer here, could use a lot of suggestions of the where's, eat, drink, girls, plain old fun. BTW I am thinking of heading down to Santo Domingo for a few days too, so any advice there would be helpful.[/QUOTE]RTFF, serously though everything you ask has been discussed in great detail on here. In Sosua you will find freelancers and La Passions and CMP club there is a strip of bars about a block long with bars on both sides of the street that are loaded with freelancers every night. The street is Pedro Clisiente (sp?) the strip begins at the corner of Pedro Clisiente and Dr Rosen drive and runs for a block with Rumba and D Latin being the main bars at night with freelancers. Prices for freelancers are 1500 pesos for short time an hour or two and 3000 for long time, all night. The girls will ask for much, much more if they think you are a newbee and don't know anything, but they will all take the above price if you hold your ground. La Passions and CMP are also on Pedro Clisiente but in the opposit direction of the strip and have set house prices. You can also find freelancers along the beach durring the day and the price for them will be the same.

Black Beards is in Puerto Plata and is all inclusive there are two shifts of girls from 11 am until 6 pm and 6 pm until midnight, there are about a dozen or so girls in each shift. Price is 1600 pesos for two hours and 3000 for all night.

Santo Domingo will be big disapointment after being in Sosua and BB. Santo Domingo has a few casas and a few, freelancers on the street. The casas can run you anywhere from 2000 to 3500. Many claim they do pretty good with none P4P chicas in Santo Domingo, I personally never had any luck in that catagory but if you have looks and / or game with some Spanish you may have better luck. Right now there is a government movement of such to crack down on prostitution and most of that crack down seems to be centered in Santo Domingo. Personally I am going to put Santo Domingo on the back burner until I see how that plays out.

PS: don't over pay the girls in Sosua and drive up the price for the rest of us. If you do I am going to find you tear up your passport and ban you from the island (LOL).

Chris

[QUOTE=Earlohara;1447044]Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards?...[/QUOTE]I recommend subscribing to the BB newsletter on their website. You'll get a lot more information.

Everything you need to know is on this forum. Take the time to read and you will have what you need. Black Beards and FOD are must sees and some time in Sosua. You are in for the time of your life. I would not suggest SD unless your spanish skills are decent. Puerto Plato has BB and FOD very close by. Sosua is the best spot it has scores of women and is very inexpensive. You need to know that you have no knowledge at this time. Study up a bit and you will be in great shape.

[QUOTE=Earlohara;1447044]Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards? If so, what is the deal, I visited the website and it talks about how it is an adult full service resort, and that the want to give you a pleasurable experience, blah blah blah. What I want to know is are there girls on premises for your pleasure. Because it don't say it does nor does it post any pricing for services like with passions. Like I said, first timer here, could use a lot of suggestions of the where's, eat, drink, girls, plain old fun. BTW I am thinking of heading down to Santo Domingo for a few days too, so any advice there would be helpful.[/QUOTE]

Amount of chicas in each shift depends on how many guests are staying at the hotel.

When hotel is full there could be more than 20 chicas in each shift.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1447112]Black Beards is in Puerto Plata and is all inclusive there are two shifts of girls from 11 am until 6 pm and 6 pm until midnight, there are about a dozen or so girls in each shift. Price is 1600 pesos for two hours and 3000 for all night.

Chris[/QUOTE]

[quote=manny51; 1445100]'

mr. gogo,

thanks for the great advice! i just upgraded my car. still only $136!

btw, what did you mean by "the open roads are cool to roll?"[/quote]hey manny. you was curious. did you rent a suv or a sedan. i always recommend an suv as any of the roads in dr are uneven.

i hope you have a good time. luckily i've never been injured or injured another motorist. the one time i crashed into one i informed him i had car rental insurance. showed him my papers as i do here in the states. he declined to pursue it as it was only a small fender bender. i truly believe he was expecting me to pay him off on the spot. my only expense was the deductible for the damage on my rental. maybe i've been lucky.

in any case enjoy your trip. like someone else advised you already, don't speed, don't drink and drive, and watch out for motorcycles. if i do rent again i'll check out alamo. that price you quoted was nice. i used budget before.

[quote=peppy007; 1447717]hey manny. you was curious. did you rent a suv or a sedan. i always recommend an suv as any of the roads in dr are uneven.

i hope you have a good time. luckily i've never been injured or injured another motorist. the one time i crashed into one i informed him i had car rental insurance. showed him my papers as i do here in the states. he declined to pursue it as it was only a small fender bender. i truly believe he was expecting me to pay him off on the spot. my only expense was the deductible for the damage on my rental. maybe i've been lucky.

in any case enjoy your trip. like someone else advised you already, don't speed, don't drink and drive, and watch out for motorcycles. if i do rent again i'll check out alamo. that price you quoted was nice. i used budget before.[/quote]from a financial perspective, its cheap as long as you don't get the cdw. most credit cards cover it. i also always buy travellers insurance on any international trip. most people don't realize that their health insurance does not extend to foreign countries. so if you get sick or injured overseas, you are absolutely screwed. i always buy insurance from a company called "world nomads." its the biggest and most popular travel insurance company out there, and their main policy includes auto rental cdw. so if you are going to pay for cdw, might as well get the travellers.

i can't speak about problems with getting in accidents and cops in the dr, though. that problem is dr specific. i'll let you know how it goes.

I've been trying to email their info address but it keeps bouncing back.

Has FOD closed?

It's still open.

Fieldofdreams dot com and it appears to be clean, tidy and a decent place to party these days.

I remember years ago. Billy Lane used to own the place and was a great tour guide, these days FOD is a little more upmarket!

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1444707]Thanks Manizales! Looking forward to your report.

One quick question though, as I am finalizing my plans. I am thinking strongly of renting a car. I went to be able to go the 27 waterfalls, and kiteboarding / surfing when I want. I will base in either FOD or Oxygen.

I see that you have been there many times. Do you think that renting a car is a good idea? The local taxi fares seem pricey, something like $44 just to check out BB. Splitting it with a friend of mine, by my calculation, a rental car would be a great deal. Is there something that I am missing?

My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents. I would only drive on the main coastal road and have no intention of going inland. Do cars get vandalized or broken into left and right?

Also, my trip will coincide with the Merengue festival in SD. Have you been there before, and it is the festival worth it? Its weird, everything I read about the festival said it is over 2 weeks long, but this year, it is only 2 days long. It seems that it might be dying.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]If you have driven in third world countries or Atlanta New York or in any other big city and you feel comfortable then I think you will be fine. For me I always rent a automobile and when I see mongers on the street sweating there balls off I remember why it was a good Idea and it is so much easier when you meet that perfect chica to just jump in the auto and get to having fun they usually start playing with your dick and balls before you ever make it to where you are going. It will make your waterfall trip much better you can get there early before all the taxis and busses. But do be careful these guy; s are not bullshiting when they say a lot of people on this board have really fucked up. A auto is good also when it rains

[QUOTE=Grub1;1450227]If you have driven in third world countries or Atlanta New York or in any other big city and you feel comfortable then I think you will be fine. For me I always rent a automobile and when I see mongers on the street sweating there balls off I remember why it was a good Idea and it is so much easier when you meet that perfect chica to just jump in the auto and get to having fun they usually start playing with your dick and balls before you ever make it to where you are going. It will make your waterfall trip much better you can get there early before all the taxis and busses. But do be careful these guy; s are not bullshiting when they say a lot of people on this board have really fucked up. A auto is good also when it rains[/QUOTE]Thanks Grub1!

I was only planning on driving in the day, to and from the beach and tourist sites, and never after beers. If going to sosua, I would probably take a taxi even with the car. I would guess that cops are more after mongers than garden variety tourists.

Any other tips to avoid accidents or cop troubles would be greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1446058]OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]Always travel with atleast 5 dollars inn your passport so when or if you do get stopped by police you will already have your tip ready for them. This will make things much eaiser

[QUOTE=Grub1;1450381]Always travel with atleast 5 dollars inn your passport so when or if you do get stopped by police you will already have your tip ready for them. This will make things much eaiser[/QUOTE]I give them $100 pesos. When I know I haven't broken any laws and I'm in a hurry. If you don't speak Spanish there is a chance they may not even bother with you.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1450227]If you have driven in third world countries or Atlanta New York or in any other big city and you feel comfortable then I think you will be fine. For me I always rent a automobile and when I see mongers on the street sweating there balls off I remember why it was a good Idea and it is so much easier when you meet that perfect chica to just jump in the auto and get to having fun they usually start playing with your dick and balls before you ever make it to where you are going. It will make your waterfall trip much better you can get there early before all the taxis and busses. But do be careful these guy; s are not bullshiting when they say a lot of people on this board have really fucked up. A auto is good also when it rains[/QUOTE]I have always rented a car in DR. It is not dangerous to drive there. Yes, there are roadblocks sometimes. Roadblocks are usually in the daytime. Police just check the rental papers and the licence and let you go. Only problem is there are potholes which you do not see at night. I had my car wheel bent on one occasion. But local people helped changing to spare.

Advantages of renting the car is many. Chicas love to ride with you. I have picked up many local girls. Have the freedom to drive anywhere. Have visited girls home and meet the family. It is a fun experience.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1450395]I have always rented a car in DR. It is not dangerous to drive there. Yes, there are roadblocks sometimes. Roadblocks are usually in the daytime. Police just check the rental papers and the licence and let you go. Only problem is there are potholes which you do not see at night. I had my car wheel bent on one occasion. But local people helped changing to spare.

Advantages of renting the car is many. Chicas love to ride with you. I have picked up many local girls. Have the freedom to drive anywhere. Have visited girls home and meet the family. It is a fun experience.[/QUOTE]I have drove past FOD many time's but never stopped. Do they have good security for your auto?

When I was in Sosua I went to passions 1st thing they had good security for auto's but the price to lay with the girls was too much money but I had travelled a long way and was ready for some ass so I paid it but only1 time then it was street girls or places that did not charge over 1500. The day I went to Passion's they were training a bunch of new girl's it was funny listening to them tell the girl's how to suck a dick and fuck

[quote=charles pooter; 1445122]despite your unfriendly reply to me because i was not saying what you wanted to hear, i was not necessarily advising you not to rent. many of our regular and sensible posters have been doing so for years and have experienced no great problems.

i was only advising you to inform yourself of the issues. it seems that you are now doing that from much good info posted, so i am happy.

they are. if you are in a group of three or more it is no big deal because the cabs charge by mile and not by number of passengers, so even an expensive fare split three or more ways can be the best option.

and even if you are solo, some cabs are cheaper than others, as manizales has written.

one option is look to share with other mongers staying at the same location. they will often fancy an outing if they can split costs.

another tip is to rent a dedicated publico where available (that is, at the sosua or puerto plata paradas or if you spot an empty one on the road). you should be able to negotiate them at half the price of a private cab. sosua to blackbeards is 1000 pesos by private cab and 500 in a dedicated publico. doesn't work the other way though, as publicos are not allowed into costambar to pick up passengers.

there are no perfect options because this a third world shithole run by crooks and imbeciles. but some options are better than others and the best approach is to pick the appropriate means of transport for each journey.

(1) anywhere along the main road from san juan to santiago, use publicos or guaguas. fast and very cheap. for greater comfort pay for two adjacent seats (an option not always available unless you are boarding at the terminus, in which case pay for both "halves" of the bucket front seat).

(2) short local trips away from the main roads or within towns, use a moto. avoid using them along main roads or in heavy traffic. avoid taking one to lonely locations or you could get scammed or mugged. i always look for a veteran driver, ideally wearing a helmet and with wing mirrors. less likely to drive with macho competitive spirit or be on drugs.

(3) longer trips from sosua or puerto plata city to destinations well away from the main road, go to the publico terminus and hire a dedicated publico. negotiate the price in advance, not more than half what a private taxi has quoted you.

(4) staying at blackbeards? you are fucked. no cheap and easy way to get off campus and worse trying to get back at night. cheapest option by day is to walk or take a moto to the main gate and then catch a jc publico from there to pto pta, then change again according to where you want to go. but harder to get back as the jcs don't run at night, so a taxi is your best bet.

and so on, i cannot list every permutation as i don't know your itinerary, but horses for courses.

sorry, this is not the right answer. most policies won't cover you against the biggest risk (not in likelihood but in magnitude). read what i said below about the casa del conductor.

three (?) years back one of our members had to pay about us$10, 000 to get out of jail after a minor incident in which he was only technically partly to blame. the moto driver he hit was overtaking him at speed on the wrong side. he went through hell and as far as i know has never driven here since. it is all posted here in detail.

incidentally, had he followed some advice about the route which i had posted on another board of which we were both members, he wouldn't have had the accident in the first place, but some guys just won't be told.[/quote]charles pooter by looking at the haiti gallery it looks like you had a good time in 2009. did you pick up the ladies in the city or in the countryside?

have you travelled to haiti this year?

[QUOTE=Grub1;1450432]Charles Pooter by looking at the Haiti gallery it looks like you had a good time in 2009. Did you pick up the ladies in the city or in the countryside?[/QUOTE]I have never travelled to Haiti for mongering so I think you are confusing me with someone else.

Why did you quote a long post from me about driving in the DR just to ask a short question about Haiti?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1450554]I have never travelled to Haiti for mongering so I think you are confusing me with someone else.

Why did you quote a long post from me about driving in the DR just to ask a short question about Haiti?[/QUOTE]Charles pooter I was only looking at photo's and not reading post in the Haiti forum for 2009. Now that I went back and read the post I now know you were only posting photo's there.

Well after reading a lot of your post I decided you were the man to ask Haiti questions so when I thought of it I just went to the 1st post I saw with your name on it. No disrespect intended.

Thanks for all post

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Hi,

Have anyone here used Tour69 adult vacations?

Weren't able to find any report / review.

Hope this is not in breach of any rules.

[QUOTE=Maskier; 1454252]Hi,

Have anyone here used Tour69 adult vacations?[/QUOTE]Never heard of this one. Is it located in Puerto Plata? Does it have a website? Where did you hear of it?

Most of these operations, the guy just adds his commission to stuff you could do for yourself for the same price.

One that was fairly priced was "The Man Tour" based in Pto Pta. He did not rip people off, but there was still no point in using him for anyone with minimal Spanish and some common sense. Haven't heard of him for four years. Is he still going?

Reading the monger boards should tell you all you need to know for a great, and reasonably priced, mongering holiday.

Anyone who is still not confident they can cope on their own would be best advised to stay at Blackbeards or Field of Dreams. You cannot go far wrong at either of those places. But if you fancy something more adventurous or varied, grow a pair, not hire a nanny.

I've never been to F. O. D nor BB nor whatever but I try to know what's going on in my playfield.

In a newsletter they say they are confident of the future of their business because they are one of the few to have an "Adult Resort" Licence.

[QUOTE=Niceb;1455993]In a newsletter they say they are confident of the future of their business because they are one of the few to have an "Adult Resort" Licence.[/QUOTE]To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies,"Well, they would say that, wouldn't they".

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1454718]Never heard of this one. Is it located in Puerto Plata? Does it have a website? Where did you hear of it?[/QUOTE]This is it:

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ok, since this topic of 'driving in the dr' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, i thought that i would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the dr.

so i picked up my car from sti airport and drove to the north coast passing through multiple destinations, including playa dorada, sosua, and ultimately, cabarete. i took some much valued advice from responders to my question, and rented a compact (the second to the smallest car). i drove the highway route, meaning highways 1 and 5, not the mountain route highway 25. the highway route from sti to sosua takes two hours. the highways were generally in good condition, and have either 1 or 2 lanes in each direction. a few potholes here and there, but nothing that i was wary of.

the advantages of the car were many. all of the towns of puerto plata, sosua, cabarete, are about 8-10 miles apart. it also seems a little farther than that because you can't really drive that fast. if you plan on planting at only one place, like sosua, then i suppose that taking a taxi is ok. but i really enjoyed moving from town to town at will, kitesurfing in cabarete but sleeping in playa dorada, etc. i can't imagine being stuck in one place, since no one place is that interesting. in particular, i found sosua to be a little skuzzy.

the main risk for getting into accidents has to do with the craziness of some, not all, car and motorcycle drivers. some drivers will go through red lights. two lanes become three lanes as cars squish to get the jump on the green. the motorcycle riders in particular often have suprising disregard for their own safety. once a motorbiker passed me on the left when i was in the fast lane, through a small space between me and the divider. i thought he was crazy. motorbikers will also do quick you-turns into oncoming traffic with little warning. nobody uses their turn signals. there are funny some videos on youtube making fun of dr drivers.

despite the above, i still think that driving is ok and doable. you just have to become a more attentive driver. here in the us, where traffic is orderly and most drive automatics transmissions, we tend to drive inattentively, with one arm on the window or shifter, lazily listening to music.

you can't do that in the dr. i drove with both hands on the wheel at all times. radio off, a /c on, and only during the day. constantly assessing the road and other motorists about 100 yards ahead. if any of you have taken a course for a motorcycle license in the us, you know what i mean. and you absolutely cannot drive while drunk or even buzzed. i suspect that some members of the forum who have gotten into accidents were probably driving at night after a sojourn to sosua, etc. in santiago, driving was dicey. but once outside santiago, i always felt comfortable with no narrowly missed accidents.

in addition, i was never pulled over by a cop or a victim of bribe extraction. i did drive by one gringo who had been pulled over, but he was surrounded by 4 cops, not just one, so i imagine that he was speeding, swerving, or suspected of something serious. otherwise, there were very few cops on the road. and no one ever vandalized my car, even when parked on the streets of sosua at night.

i paid $131 for a four day rental, and that included all taxes and liability insurance. that's $33 a day and well worth it. flying into sti and renting a car was cheaper than flying into pop. just keep in mind that gas is $6 per gallon.

for next time, i may fly into pop anyway, since the drive to sti from cabarete was over two hours and, before a return flight, kind of painful. but renting a car itself always felt like a good thing.

will report on other details of the dr visit soon.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1456174]Ok, since this topic of 'Driving in the DR' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, I thought that I would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the DR.[/QUOTE]Manny I'm glad everything worked out for you driving. Keep in mind that the majority of the discussions concerning driving have not been about the actual driving but about what happens after you get in an accident and someone is injured, that's when the shit hits the fan.

Glad you had no issues Manny. One other advantage of having a car is if one day you decide to do the local inner cities, a car makes picking up local girls so much easier. Many of them want to do the deed away from their barrios where no one knows them. Some towns are so small they might know every cab driver LOL. After a certain time usually from 8 to 10pm most forms of public transportation ceases to operate. I'm from Mao a town in the northwest and if I didn't already make arrangements with a cabdriver to call him in the wee hours of the morning, I would literally be stuck in a cabaña til the morning when all cab drivers are up and running again.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1456174]Ok, since this topic of 'Driving in the DR' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, I thought that I would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the DR.

So I picked up my car from STI airport and drove to the North Coast passing through multiple destinations, including Playa Dorada, Sosua, and ultimately, Cabarete. I took some much valued advice from responders to my question, and rented a compact (the second to the smallest car). I drove the highway route, meaning highways 1 and 5, not the mountain route highway 25. The highway route from STI to Sosua takes two hours. The highways were generally in good condition, and have either 1 or 2 lanes in each direction. A few potholes here and there, but nothing that I was wary of.

The advantages of the car were many. All of the towns of Puerto Plata, Sosua, Cabarete, are about 8-10 miles apart. It also seems a little farther than that because you can't really drive that fast. If you plan on planting at only one place, like Sosua, then I suppose that taking a taxi is ok. But I really enjoyed moving from town to town at will, Kitesurfing in Cabarete but sleeping in Playa Dorada, etc. I can't imagine being stuck in one place, since no one place is that interesting...[/QUOTE]

Thanks for taking the trouble to report back and describe your driving experience so clearly.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1456150]This is it:

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I drove and SD and promised I would never do it again. The roads had pot holes that were almost unavoidable.

North Coast driving is very different, I am looking forward to your report.

QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1456192]Thanks for taking the trouble to report back and describe your driving experience so clearly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1456174]Ok, since this topic of 'Driving in the DR' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, I thought that I would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the DR.

I drove with both hands on the wheel at all times. Radio off, a / see on, and only during the day. Constantly assessing the road and other motorists about 100 yards ahead. And you absolutely cannot drive while drunk or even buzzed.






Seems if you learned right off the bat what it take's to drive in the DR safely.

I am glad you had a good time.

Most people who visit the DR never go much past the hotel they are staying in. They will never really know what the DR is about.

Ok, I wanted to relay some reflections on a recent trip to the DR.

I went to Field of Dreams, Sosua, and Oxygen. Most of the details of these places have been discussed before, so I'll stick to my personal impressions.

FOD is across the street from the second 'Playa Dorada' sign, not the actual entrance to Playa Dorada, as some have stated. There is nothing directly across the actual entrance. It is smaller than the pictures imply, and smaller than Oxygen (its obvious comparison) , but the overall website depiction is accurate. Its owned by four co-owners, two of which were on hand on a Wednesday (a pleasant surprise). Owner presence is important because it ensures that the companions are on their best behavior.

The key thing about FOD is that there is a bikini show, or some other event, usually in the late afternoon at around 4 pm. If you come anytime between 3 and 6 pm, there are over twenty girls there, a large group. However, at around 7 pm, many of them leave. So if you want the biggest selection of companions, you have to be there at that key period. Otherwise, your selection pool is a lot smaller. At 8 pm, there were only about 6-7 girls. They insist that all the girls are tested monthly, which at first I found hard to believe, given that their overall pool was almost 30 girls, but I didn't get the vibe that they were lying. In terms of quality, I would say one of the girls was a 7, the others were 5's (FYI, I have noticed that my scale is a little stricter than most).

The rooms themselves are pretty good. The only drawback was that the AC was not as strong as I usually like. But they were clean, and the parking lot is enclosed, so your car is safe. The only other drawback is the lack of other places to eat in walking distance. Overall, it would make a pretty good home base if your main area of activity is Playa Dorada and eastward and you have a car, though it's a little far for Sosua and Cabarete.

Oxygen hadn't changed much from my previous visits, even though some time had passed. There were about 8 women there. Two of them were 8's, the others were 5-6. There is still good GFE there, but as a whole the women were a little less guest focused than previously. The room and grounds are still excellent, and the food well-prepared. As a whole, I felt that Oxygen is still a quality establishment, but I couldn't shake the impression that it was slipping. Of course, this is only based on two nights. However, their huge premium seems harder to justify now that venues like FOD are providing an environment similar to O2 (though not as high end) , but at more affordable prices. And by the way, there had been a sale of the Oxygen venue pending, but it fell apart at the last minute. So it is still the original owner.

I did not visit BB. Other forum members had said that FOD was similar to BB, but with slightly better looking women. I didn't have time to eval both, so I picked FOD. Based on what I saw, I wouldn't want to go a step down.

I visited Sosua for one evening, and after about an hour or two, had no interest in further sticking around. I did not see the Passions venue, but did not look too hard for it since others had said it was closed. After visiting FOD, Sosua seemed relatively scummy in comparison. Yes, beers are cheaper there, and there are more choices for dining. But I made my rounds, and I didn't find any of the women even remotely attractive. Not a single one. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw some parents taking their young children around the area. After a while, I had seen enough. After years of reading about it, Sosua had become somewhat of a legend in my mind. If Sosua had a glory period in the past, it is clearly over.

Just my dos pesos.

What time did you go to Sosua. Did you go to Dlatins or Rumba. Both places have more then enough 7 8 and 9s. In DLatins every night are a couple hundred girls of all types. I think you should have been a bit more patient. When it comes to women I have high standards and Sosua more then satisfys me. BB women are a step above FOD by general concensus. BB supposly has better quantity and quality.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1456222]What time did you go to Sosua. Did you go to Dlatins or Rumba. Both places have more then enough 7 8 and 9s. In DLatins every night are a couple hundred girls of all types. I think you should have been a bit more patient. When it comes to women I have high standards and Sosua more then satisfys me. BB women are a step above FOD by general concensus. BB supposly has better quantity and quality.[/QUOTE]Old Kool my brother, I hope you aren't calling the tricks on El Conde "High Standards"? But I will agree you do have variety.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1456222]What time did you go to Sosua. Did you go to Dlatins or Rumba. Both places have more then enough 7 8 and 9s. In DLatins every night are a couple hundred girls of all types. I think you should have been a bit more patient. When it comes to women I have high standards and Sosua more then satisfys me. BB women are a step above FOD by general concensus. BB supposly has better quantity and quality.[/QUOTE]I was in Sosua from about 7-9 pm. Yes, I did see Dlatns and Rumba (the two open pavilion, outdoor bars) and did not think much of them. Yes, there are dozens to hundreds out there. That's what was disappointing, that even with all those girls, not one caught my eye. Plus, if you read the Sosua forums, there are these stories of girls ripping off guys. Other venues have places where the girls are tested and the environment not so seedy. Don't get me wrong, a little seedy is ok if the women are lookers. But they weren't. Maybe I could give it more time, but why bother?

In terms of FOD vs BB, I didn't have time for both. I wanted to check out BB and exchange some money at Jenny's. But when I was first driving from STI to the coast, I was looking constantly for a gated entrance to Costambar, but didn't see one. No signs to Costambar at all. I guess its kind of hidden.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1456232]I was in Sosua from about 7-9 pm. Yes, I did see Dlatns and Rumba (the two open pavilion, outdoor bars) and did not think much of them. Yes, there are dozens to hundreds out there. That's what was disappointing, that even with all those girls, not one caught my eye. Plus, if you read the Sosua forums, there are these stories of girls ripping off guys. Other venues have places where the girls are tested and the environment not so seedy. Don't get me wrong, a little seedy is ok if the women are lookers. But they weren't. Maybe I could give it more time, but why bother?

In terms of FOD vs BB, I didn't have time for both. I wanted to check out BB and exchange some money at Jenny's. But when I was first driving from STI to the coast, I was looking constantly for a gated entrance to Costambar, but didn't see one. No signs to Costambar at all. I guess its kind of hidden.[/QUOTE]9 at rumba and dlatins is junk. The hotties are few and far between at that point. Try again, later, new ones were still arriving at 2.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1456209]I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw some parents taking their young children around the area.[/QUOTE]I have seen it in Thailand and Amsterdam. I went with my little daughter when she was four to walk around the adult entertainment area in Phuket. Lots of lights and sounds. I am not sure what is it that bothers you about it. By seeing it kids are not going to automatically become mongers or putas. They may actually find it quite boring.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1456259]I have seen it in Thailand and Amsterdam. I went with my little daughter when she was four to walk around the adult entertainment area in Phuket. Lots of lights and sounds. I am not sure what is it that bothers you about it. By seeing it kids are not going to automatically become mongers or putas. They may actually find it quite boring.[/QUOTE]Uh. Yeah. Ok.

Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.

Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?

I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.

Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.

H

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1459087]Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.

Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?

I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.

Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.

H[/QUOTE]If you are going to be there for 7 days, then you should definitely rent a car. Weekly rates give you the best overall value. And 7 days is a long time in the DR. The different cities / destinations are pretty far apart. If you think that its just a short hop from BB to Sosua, you are mistaken. On my recent trip, I would have definitely felt stranded and unhappy without a car. A car will also help you fill the daytime. There is so much awesome outdoor stuff to do the DR. I find it odd that most hobbyists go to the DR and never leave Sosua or the resort areas. Try the Damajuaga Falls!

I did not visit Blackbeards, but I can give FOD a pretty good recommendation, at least relative to Sosua. With places like FOD, BB, and Oxygen giving a certain degree of owner QC, as well as testing, its hard to recommend Sosua. If you are there for 7 days, might as well try a night in Sosua, but I am pretty sure you won't like it. I didn't think the girls there were that good looking, and even if I went at a bad time, read the forums. They always talk about girls trying to steal stuff, trying walk away from deals. Why bother? The trick to FOD is that you have to be there at the right time of day, which is 3-7 pm and weekends. All the girls aren't there all the time.

Oxygen has very good GFE, but is very expensive. If you can afford it, its worth it. You can go there now for $500 / night all inclusive. Expensive, but the cheapest its ever been. But if its a stretch for you, you won't' be able to get over how much you are spending, and therefore won't enjoy yourself. Its better than the other places, but only marginally so.

In terms of food, I didn't really like the food anywhere in the DR. Most of it are bad versions of foreign (including American) food. In any country you visit, the local food will always be the best. The carribean isn't somewhere you go for the cuisine. Nothing is fresh except some (not even all) the seafood.

Sosua is awesome IMHO. Most nights there are over 200 women most very attractive. I have been to BB and with out a doubt in Sosua the selection of women Kills all other places. Pussy is pussy. In Sosua a guy can fuck pretty 19 year olds for 75 dollars tln. The thought of paying 500 a day to me is a joke. Sosua is custom made for big boy mongers. IMHO any body who can not find a winner with over 200 DR chicas is a weak MF IMHO. Read the on the ground report of Sosua. Most guys are loving it. Only bad report I have seen was a guy who went to DLatins at 9 pm and was surprised it was not packed yet. Oxygen has attractive women but DLatin will have 30 plus babe every night as hot and hotter for 40 bucks for ST.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1459100]If you are going to be there for 7 days, then you should definitely rent a car. Weekly rates give you the best overall value. And 7 days is a long time in the DR. The different cities / destinations are pretty far apart. If you think that its just a short hop from BB to Sosua, you are mistaken. On my recent trip, I would have definitely felt stranded and unhappy without a car. A car will also help you fill the daytime. There is so much awesome outdoor stuff to do the DR. I find it odd that most hobbyists go to the DR and never leave Sosua or the resort areas. Try the Damajuaga Falls!

I did not visit Blackbeards, but I can give FOD a pretty good recommendation, at least relative to Sosua. With places like FOD, BB, and Oxygen giving a certain degree of owner QC, as well as testing, its hard to recommend Sosua. If you are there for 7 days, might as well try a night in Sosua, but I am pretty sure you won't like it. I didn't think the girls there were that good looking, and even if I went at a bad time, read the forums. They always talk about girls trying to steal stuff, trying walk away from deals. Why bother? The trick to FOD is that you have to be there at the right time of day, which is 3-7 pm and weekends. All the girls aren't there all the time.

Oxygen has very good GFE, but is very expensive. If you can afford it, its worth it. You can go there now for $500 / night all inclusive. Expensive, but the cheapest its ever been. But if its a stretch for you, you won't' be able to get over how much you are spending, and therefore won't enjoy yourself. Its better than the other places, but only marginally so.

In terms of food, I didn't really like the food anywhere in the DR. Most of it are bad versions of foreign (including American) food. In any country you visit, the local food will always be the best. The carribean isn't somewhere you go for the cuisine. Nothing is fresh except some (not even all) the seafood.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1459111]Sosua is awesome IMHO. Most nights there are over 200 women most very attractive. I have been to BB and with out a doubt in Sosua the selection of women Kills all other places. Pussy is pussy. In Sosua a guy can fuck pretty 19 year olds for 75 dollars tln. The thought of paying 500 a day to me is a joke. Sosua is custom made for big boy mongers. IMHO any body who can not find a winner with over 200 DR chicas is a weak MF IMHO. Read the on the ground report of Sosua. Most guys are loving it. Only bad report I have seen was a guy who went to DLatins at 9 pm and was surprised it was not packed yet. Oxygen has attractive women but DLatin will have 30 plus babe every night as hot and hotter for 40 bucks for ST.[/QUOTE]Don't just take my word for it, Read the forums. Veteran poster after poster all talk about how Sosua is a shadow of its former self. Now, I didn't see it in its glory days, but it definitely gives off that vibe.

As for Old Kool, Mr."big boy monger" as opposed to other "weak MF." You're such a man. Way to represent yo.

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1459087]Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality...[/QUOTE]I will be there around the same time you are there, will be there a few days before you arrive and leave a couple days before you do and plan on spending a couple days in BB on this trip. If you want to meet up when you arrive let me know. Personally I wouldn't rent a car but that's just me, I would arrange for BB to pick you up cost is $45 one way, you pay when you check in you don't pay the driver. Oldkool is absolutely right about Sosua everything he says is true and personally I disagree with Manny51 opinion on Sosua, yes it certainly is not what it was when I first started going but just as oldkool says there are at least 200 chicas many of which are very very hot available along the strip at night for less than $40 for short time. What the future holds for Sosua is uncertain, recent events give one cause for concern, but for now Sosua is still the hottest spot in the American hemisphere.

When it comes to exchanging money at BB you want to exchange it a Yenneys, it's a convenient store right after you enter the gated community and an easy walk from BB. You will get your best rates there and you can ask your driver to stop before he takes to BB.

My advice would be to spend your weekdays at BB and your weekends in Sosua.

Chris

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1459087]Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality...[/QUOTE]RWaters, I'll be around there those 3 days you are at BB. I'll be in DR (POP & Sosua) for about 1 month. The name is Senor Aqua Man. Safe travels.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1459156]Don't just take my word for it, Read the forums. Veteran poster after poster all talk about how Sosua is a shadow of its former self. Now, I didn't see it in its glory days, but it definitely gives off that vibe.

As for Old Kool, Mr."big boy monger" as opposed to other "weak MF." You're such a man. Way to represent yo.[/QUOTE]don't worry about what sosua was. Worry about what it is. Plenty to choose from.

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1459087]Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.

Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?

I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.

Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.

H[/QUOTE]My buddy and I will be in DR 8/25-9/1. We are also staying at BBs. Would be great to meet up with everyone who will be in Town. If you go through BBs for the taxi pickup from the airport, arrange it prior via e-mail or call them. You can exchange money in a pinch at BBs, but as Chris said Jenny's up the road is best. Try to bring at least enough cash for a few days. My last trip to Puerto Plata (PP) was 2008, but unless things have changed, the nearest ATMs (at the Texaco station and Banco Popular in PP) are not within a convenient walking distance. Looking forward to meeting everyone. Bunda.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1459156]Don't just take my word for it, Read the forums. Veteran poster after poster all talk about how Sosua is a shadow of its former self. Now, I didn't see it in its glory days, but it definitely gives off that vibe.

As for Old Kool, Mr."big boy monger" as opposed to other "weak MF." You're such a man. Way to represent yo.[/QUOTE]Manny, the reason Sosua gave off the "vibe" that it did was strictly because of the time of day that you went. Yes, it is true that Sosua was better years ago but that holds true for every mongering destination in the world. If you had rolled into Sosua after 11 pm it would have been a whole different story. Try going to the clubs in Medellin or Cartagena at 7 p. M, you'll be the only motherf*ker there.

Firstly, I want to thank everybody for their excellent advise. Many different perspectives.

First, I am leaning against renting a car. I would like the freedom but concerned that the potential hassle or disaster far outweighs the benefit. Typically, I am very adventurous. I have plenty of experience behind the wheel in foreign countries. However, as I have not yet been to DR it may make sense for me to get a better grasp before getting behind a wheel.

Also, after 3 nights at BBs, I will probably want to get off campus. Once in Sosua, I will have no need for wheels.

So I am currently thinking of staying at New Garden after BB's. Not sure how or if I should fit FOD into the week.

Again, I appreciate all advice given from experience. Lots to think about. I am fortunate to have this intel before landing.

I will reach out to Bunda Man and Senor Aqua Man via PM before my departure.

H

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1459332]Manny, the reason Sosua gave off the "vibe" that it did was strictly because of the time of day that you went. Yes, it is true that Sosua was better years ago but that holds true for every mongering destination in the world. If you had rolled into Sosua after 11 pm it would have been a whole different story. Try going to the clubs in Medellin or Cartagena at 7 p. M, you'll be the only motherf*ker there.[/QUOTE]So you are saying that Sosua at 9 pm is the equivalent of 7 pm in South America? Seriously? If thats the case, you may want to think twice about being the hero defending the reputation of Sosua. If its like Mr. Kool describes, I doubt that roaming around a place like Sosua at 2 am on a weeknight is something to be proud of.

Still, you guys are like the Knights of the Round Table, ready to snap the head off of anything who dares to speak ill of Sosua. That's so cool.

Most people who have been to Sosua would say your representation was not an accurate dipiction of Sosua.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1459439]So you are saying that Sosua at 9 pm is the equivalent of 7 pm in South America? Seriously? If thats the case, you may want to think twice about being the hero defending the reputation of Sosua. If its like Mr. Kool describes, I doubt that roaming around a place like Sosua at 2 am on a weeknight is something to be proud of.

Still, you guys are like the Knights of the Round Table, ready to snap the head off of anything who dares to speak ill of Sosua. That's so cool.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1459332]Manny, the reason Sosua gave off the "vibe" that it did was strictly because of the time of day that you went. Yes, it is true that Sosua was better years ago but that holds true for every mongering destination in the world. If you had rolled into Sosua after 11 pm it would have been a whole different story. Try going to the clubs in Medellin or Cartagena at 7 p. M, you'll be the only motherf*ker there.[/QUOTE]I don't know. Sosua is slow right now and there are not all that many single men short-term visitors staying in town, especially during weekdays. The number of girls available in the bar will tend to depend on the number of men who are spending. If you go to the parada de taxis in Puerto Plata late at night, you will sometimes see girls all dressed up and headed for Sosua. Perhaps they have day jobs, and then go home, take care of child (ren) , get a few hours kip when sundown cools the air a little and then get up and head to Sosua later on looking for an all-night gig to bring in some extra cash, then return home to get the kid (s) ready for school.

Whether those girls from Puerto Plata, Montellano, Maranatha-Bellavista, Los Cangrejos, La Union, Cabarete, etc. Will bother to make the late night trip depends somewhat on whether they think they will score late at night, but as far as the theory that the best girls don't arrive in Sosua until after 11:00 p. M, I don't know how valid it is for most of the time.

You are also going to get a certain number of girls showing up late who have been working in other evening jobs in Sosua, waitressing, cooking, bartending, and so on, and now hoping to find a quiclk gig for the night to make some extra cash.

In any case, regardless of the time of the night if you see two or three girls whom you would like to take, but have to narrow it down to one, then things are great and you are spoiled for choice, but if you don't find any who really hit the spot, then it is all lousy. If you are drinking alcohol, the quality of the girls may appear to improve as time goes on and inhibitions are lowered.

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1459386]Firstly, I want to thank everybody for their excellent advise. Many different perspectives.

First, I am leaning against renting a car. I would like the freedom but concerned that the potential hassle or disaster far outweighs the benefit. Typically, I am very adventurous. I have plenty of experience behind the wheel in foreign countries. However, as I have not yet been to DR it may make sense for me to get a better grasp before getting behind a wheel.

Also, after 3 nights at BBs, I will probably want to get off campus. Once in Sosua, I will have no need for wheels.

So I am currently thinking of staying at New Garden after BB's. Not sure how or if I should fit FOD into the week.

Again, I appreciate all advice given from experience. Lots to think about. I am fortunate to have this intel before landing.

I will reach out to Bunda Man and Senor Aqua Man via PM before my departure.

H[/QUOTE]RWaters, I know this will be your first trip to DR. Hopefully not your last. One thing you should do is to check the Calendars of the Resorts like BB and FOD. It's a shame you are arriving on Sunday Aug 25th. 1 day of missing the well known BB Bikini Contest on Sat. Aug. 24th. And the night before that, Friday Aug. 23rd, the Baby Doll Night. (something not to be missed). We can catch the FOD Bikini Contest on Wed Aug 28th. (Every Wed at 4 PM). Next time you head to DR. Plan your vacation around the venues you are most interested in and wouldn't want to miss. As far as money exchange at Yennys market, the only downside is if you are exchanging a big sum of money and you have to wait for the guy, in the back, to return, if he is not there. What I do is have my taxi pick up take me to a local money exchange place on route to BB. Well any questions don't hesitate. To hit me up. Can't wait for this trip. Senor Aqua Man

[quote=Senorsauceboy; 1459771]RWaters, I know this will be your first trip to DR. Hopefully not your last. One thing you should do is to check the Calendars of the Resorts like BB and FOD. It's a shame you are arriving on Sunday Aug 25th. 1 day of missing the well known BB Bikini Contest on Sat. Aug. 24th.[/quote]
The contest starts at 4 pm so you should be checked in and showered before the show starts. Always fun.

Radpoker

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1459087]Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.

Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?

I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.

Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.

H[/QUOTE]Radpoker. As mentioned above, RWaters will arrive at BB on Sunday 8/25/13. I have been going to DR since 2007. I know the deal. I will already be in DR, before RWaters arrives. I will be at the next (2) two BB Bikini Contests on Sat. 8/24/13 & 9/7/13. Also I will be at the next (4) four Bikini Contests at FOD on Wed. 8/21/13, 8/28/13, 9/4/13 & 9/11/13.

See ya there.

Peace,

Senor Aqua Man

[QUOTE=Senorsauceboy;1460065]Radpoker. As mentioned above, RWaters will arrive at BB on Sunday 8/25/13. I have been going to DR since 2007. I know the deal. I will already be in DR, before RWaters arrives. I will be at the next (2) two BB Bikini Contests on Sat. 8/24/13 & 9/7/13. Also I will be at the next (4) four Bikini Contests at FOD on Wed. 8/21/13, 8/28/13, 9/4/13 & 9/11/13.

See ya there.

Peace,

Senor Aqua Man[/QUOTE]Sorry, read the date wrong. Thank you.

Radpoker

Per their recent newsletter BB's has struck a deal with the local taxi mafia for rides up and back to STI with constant availability. At first it dosen't seem like much of a deal- 100US one way solo which is a bit more than twice as much as the cost of a ride to POP. But many guys including me have been getting rates coming in and out of STI which are 200US less than POP. So if you use STI you come out about 100 ahead of the game. Of course you can also split the cost if you come with others. The only problem is that the ride to STI often takes twice as much time as the ride to POP although it can be shorter. But it sounds like it could be worth it.

Yesterday morning I read Ponderosa's review from March in which he compared Black Beard's to Field of dreams. It has been five years since I'the been to Blackbeard's but I agreed with most everything he said. (I like the murals at FoD but I hate the loud music.) I didn't understand his dismissal of Crystals as too hard to take a girls out from. I also agreed that midnight was too early for Blackbeard's to close down. (FoD runs about of steam in a more natural way. Supposedly they are open 24/7.)

I had come across Cocoa Night Club on the internet a few weeks before and I had driven past it just the day before. I had been driving past this place called The Secret, a Night Club and wondering if it was. (My girlfriend said it was just a bar.) And I had just seen a flash of a spot on the North side of Why 5 between Av Colon and the hill as we zipped through town. It seemed to me there was more action in Puerto Plata than just BB, Crystals and FoD and that it continued after midnight. So I dropped the girlfriend off at her place and went to work. I'm a reviewer for Sexcation-Review.

I drove out to Blackbeard's to try out the restaurant that Ponderosa said was much improved. I made it to Costambar easily enough but the only sign for Blackbeard's is across the road from the place. I finally hired a taxi driver to lead me to it and gave him 50 pesos. Blackbeard's looked great, there were lots of girls hanging out, it was around 8:30 pm, and the food was good. I didn't introduce myself to the Momason and only one girl came up to me.

Then I drove back to Puerto Plata. Secrets couldn't ask for a better location one block from the Malecon on the West side of town. You turn up Av colon and there it is on the South East corner. It's a small place and opened in June 2013. Inside it looked like a small strip club with a stripper pole, a roped off VIP area, a clear floor and a bar. Three girls were 'working' at the time. They open at 6pm. It was after 9pm and I was the only customer. The Bartender speaks fair English and offered to change the music to anything current I wanted. Of course I couldn't think of anything current but Adele and I didn't want that.

None of the girls spoke more than a few words of English and after a halfhearted attempt at interesting me one went back outside. There's a dressing room for the girls (where a couple more were in the midts on undressing) and a VIP room with a bed for rent. The Bartender said it was cheaper to rent the VIP room for the night than to take a girl out. The best part was the price for the drinks was about half of everywhere else.

Cocoa Night Club is about two blocks up the street on the West side of Av Colon. They have a big website, it might be bigger than the actual place. You enter what looked to me like a delivery entrance. There's a place for chicken, a bar facing the loading bay and stairs to the real club. The real club is large, with another bar, a stage, a pool table, two TVs playing the golf channel and a VIP area with another pool table and private bar. What I couldn't see were their VIP rooms for rent.

I only saw two working girls and they didn't work very hard. The Momason on the other hand worked very hard to make sure I was happy. Her English is passable, she sat down and talked with me. She told me there were two other girls working at the moment for a total of four and that another one would be coming on closer to midnight. But that was it. Five available girls for a place that could seat thirty easily and there was to be live music around 10pm. Apparently I was there during the slow period. They open at noon and go until 2 am.

I drove to Estaban's on Circunvalacion, east from Av Colon. This place looks like a dive. I parked on the South side of Hwy 5 so I had to run across the divided hwy to get to them. At around 9:30 I was the only customer. There was a bartender, a Momason and one working girl. The Bartender and the Momason worked much harder to please me than she did.

These three places are open until 2 am on the weekends and some week days. But I felt they expected me to enter with a raging hunger because they made very little attempt to inspire me. I wondered if I was just too early, I hit all three between 9pm and 10pm on as Saturday night. But there were much busier bars close to each of these places, playing the same music, serving the same drinks but with people overflowing onto the sidewalk. Maybe it was just too early for people in the market for sex.

So I drove over to Crystal's. I hadn't planned to go that night but it's my job and I take pride in being thorough. I arrived at Crystal's just before 10pm and the moment I got inside between 10 and 20 girls swarmed around me. They pawed me and told me to look here, look here. They followed me to the bar. I only lost half of them when I took a lounge. I finally settled on one to make the others go away.

She gave me the best lap dance I have ever had where the clothes stayed on. I gave her 1,000 pesos for her efforts and drove back to Sosua where things don't slow down until well after midnight.

Ponderosa was right, BB, Crystal's, and FoD are the best places to go, most selection, most eager girls. They make you feel like a king. But if you don't want to leave PP after midnight and you're still hungry there are four places to go right in PP. That stay open past midnight.

In the interest of thoroughness I will have to go back around midnight and I will let you know what I find.

In heading to POP this week from an incredible week in Santo Domingo. Will post about that later. I m looking for a reasonably priced chica friendly hotel ($45-70). I waded through quite a few pages in the POP thread but didn't find any. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=PepperSpray22;1460775]In heading to POP this week from an incredible week in Santo Domingo. Will post about that later. I m looking for a reasonably priced chica friendly hotel ($45-70). I waded through quite a few pages in the POP thread but didn't find any. Any help would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Puerto Plata is not overblessed with hotels, but Aparta-Hotel Lomar is probably the best for you. It is on the Malecon with ocean views and breezes, across the road from a beach, central to everything, and not far from La Sirena supermarket. Other possibility might be Portofino. There are some other hotels on the main highway or inland, like Sunshine Motel or Mountainview Hotel, but probably not as good as Lomar.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1460840]Puerto Plata is not overblessed with hotels, but Aparta-Hotel Lomar is probably the best for you. It is on the Malecon with ocean views and breezes, across the road from a beach, central to everything, and not far from La Sirena supermarket. Other possibility might be Portofino. There are some other hotels on the main highway or inland, like Sunshine Motel or Mountainview Hotel, but probably not as good as Lomar.[/QUOTE]I am assuming you have already ruled out Field of Dreams and Blackbeard's as they are discussed ad nauseam in the Puerto Plata threads.

[QUOTE=Senorsauceboy;1459771]RWaters, I know this will be your first trip to DR. Hopefully not your last. One thing you should do is to check the Calendars of the Resorts like BB and FOD. It's a shame you are arriving on Sunday Aug 25th. 1 day of missing the well known BB Bikini Contest on Sat. Aug. 24th. And the night before that, Friday Aug. 23rd, the Baby Doll Night. (something not to be missed). We can catch the FOD Bikini Contest on Wed Aug 28th. (Every Wed at 4 PM). Next time you head to DR. Plan your vacation around the venues you are most interested in and wouldn't want to miss. As far as money exchange at Yennys market, the only downside is if you are exchanging a big sum of money and you have to wait for the guy, in the back, to return, if he is not there. What I do is have my taxi pick up take me to a local money exchange place on route to BB. Well any questions don't hesitate. To hit me up. Can't wait for this trip. Senor Aqua Man[/QUOTE]What's up going the the DR for the first time this Saturday arrive around 1pm where is this bikini contest think it would be a great introduction the DR.

[QUOTE=Allforrio;1460948]What's up going the the DR for the first time this Saturday arrive around 1pm where is this bikini contest think it would be a great introduction the DR.[/QUOTE]It's at Blackbeards in Costombar. I'm arriving on Sunday afternoon, so unfortunately, I will miss it, since my buddy has to work Saturday night. I experienced the contests a few years ago and they are extremely entertaining. The only negative, from my perspective, is that they are prolonged, to sell more drinks, I presume.

I'm here right now having arrived at 1500 yesterday. Place is almost full save for one room but the current vibe is quiet. Not alot of guys hanging around or chicas for that matter but that will change by 1500 for the contest. Last night was rocking and my wingman and I each had 3 nuts with 4 kills. I will do my usual trip report with pussy pics that I'm known for upon return in a few days. Current exchange rate at Jenny's market is 42. 3 pesos Road to the USD.

[QUOTE=Bunda Man;1461386]It's at Blackbeards in Costombar. I'm arriving on Sunday afternoon, so unfortunately, I will miss it, since my buddy has to work Saturday night. I experienced the contests a few years ago and they are extremely entertaining. The only negative, from my perspective, is that they are prolonged, to sell more drinks, I presume.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PepperSpray22;1460775]In heading to POP this week from an incredible week in Santo Domingo. Will post about that later. I m looking for a reasonably priced chica friendly hotel ($45-70). I waded through quite a few pages in the POP thread but didn't find any. Any help would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you've got a car or ride the sensacion cabanas west of town on the north coast highway near the entrance to costambar have deals for staying overnight rather than short time. A couple years ago it was about 1100 pesos for a fancy room with ac and amenities and obviously very guest friendly.

Just got back home and downloaded my pics. Stay tuned. Here's a little teaser from my last trip to BB's over the last days. I'm known as the "Guardfather" on IFTC hence the taxi sign. Don't know who "Scott" is but he wasn't on my ride. The Bikini Contest was last Saturday.

I just wasted an hour typing a 7 paragraph trip report that didn't make it through. Had the same problem with that "other" board. Fuck it. Here's my pics from my last trip to BB's last week. WTF!

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1465166]I just wasted an hour typing a 7 paragraph trip report that didn't make it through. Had the same problem with that "other" board. Fuck it. Here's my pics from my last trip to BB's last week. WTF![/QUOTE]Might hafta put BB back on the list! Thanks for sharing!

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1465166]I just wasted an hour typing a 7 paragraph trip report that didn't make it through. Had the same problem with that "other" board. Fuck it. Here's my pics from my last trip to BB's last week. WTF![/QUOTE]I don't mean this in a mean way, but every time I see these beaver photo galleries, it makes me laugh. Its just so silly, its hilarious!

So do you take these photos before the deed or after? Do you ask their permission, and if so, how exactly do you phrase it? Do you so play the alpha male: "Yo woman, I want to take a pic of your pussy!". Or do you butter them up first,"Wow, you have the most beautiful vagina. Can I take a picture so that I can remember it? Please?"

And how can we know for sure that these aren't recycled pictures? We should require dated newspapers in the photo!

Basic Intel:

Dates: 8/23-8/26 2013.

Exchange Rate at Jenny's Market: 42. 3 pesos DR=1 USD. 1000 pesos Road=$23. 64 so that 100 pesos=$2. 64. BB's short time at 1, 600 pesos=$37. 83. Long time (all night) at 3, 000 pesos=$70. 92. At their bar a Presidente beer cost 132 pesos=$3. 12 and the 'Grande' bottle cost 183 pesos=$4. 33. I saved a grand total of $4. 83 paying my room / taxi bill upon arrival in pesos instead of USD. A 10% tip is included on all bar / meal tabs so don't get carried away, but a few clinkers on the table goes a long way. We took advantage of BB's 20% July / August room discount offer on this trip and I split the Penthouse Suite with my wing. The weather was in the high 80's to low 90's with no detectable rain for the duration.

Met my wingman at his house right after work, sleepless, shit packed and ready to fly. Wingman is a good friend and former co-worker, now a rookie cop in a large, crime ridden city near you. He's young, Latino, fluent Spanish speaker with plenty of game back in his hood. Rookienoob really doesn't need to be on this trip but he's always DTF (down to fuck). His blood already boiling with bodega liberated phony dick dope, that they just throw at him, when he's on patrol hassling the store owners for whatever reason. Our flights are on time and we hit POP and pay the usual $10 tourist visa fee. Step out into the Africa heat for BB's driver waiting with my sign. Some guy named, 'Scott' was also on the sign but he wasn't there. I speak good Spanish for a Gringo and tell my driver to stay on the main highway towards BB's, no detours, and we don't need to go to his friends cambio for dinero exchange for his commission. Jenny's Market in Costambar. 10 minutes walk from BB's offers the best rate in the area, plus you'll save time. Counting party ensues in the backroom and we leave with pockets stuffed with their monopoly money plus a few toilet items we forgot. It's a good store for shit like that. Rookienoob can't wait. His job and his dick gives cause for his pending divorce from his sexless marriage. Naturally.

At BB's another counting party ensues with Tim, the ever loyal and hard working day manager. This is my 8th trip I think, lost count. Your taxi bill is paid here, not to the driver direct, but a 200 peso tip is warranted. The place feels quiet and looks empty but in fact, they are about 80% full. The chicas are eye fucking us now. Rookienoob thinks he needs a nap. NEGATIVE! Buck up officer. Unpacking frenzy ensues in our 2 BR suite and a cool shower is needed as our taxi lacked AC. Naturally.

We hit the bar before the coveted shift change. The first Presidente perfectly served, covered with rime ice and a napkin to protect the green glass from our grubby, warm hands. We each take down our first kill of the trip. The salt water pool is next for me. We observe as 2nd shift arrives in street clothes on the backs of motoconchos, hair investment covered in those ugly hats protecting it from the sun, pollution, and road dust. They emerge from their little locker room completely transformed into the awesome harlots we all love and adore. But first, its time for dinner. BB's chow rarely disappoints. Now its time for drinking, smoking their decent cigars, (100-125 pesos) and flirting. Rookienoob is already quite popular with the talent there, his hair gel agogo. It still hasn't quite dawned on him yet that they're working girls. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Time for another kill and some more boozing. I meet the distinguished, yet quietly soft-spoken 'Chris Long' of IFTC and ISG fame. His trip reports from all over the world are awesome. I shake his hand and bow, 'I'm not worthy sir. ' OPSEC forbids personal data so let's just say that Chris has the perfect job that allows for, 'cover for status' for those familiar with tradecraft lingo. He only started our hobby 2 years ago and, like a first time crystal meth user, became instantly addicted to the habit of sport fucking. Naturally.

Time for sleep now? No! I discover Rookienoob getting a double BBBJ in the Jacuzzi. He can't nut owing to the common side effect of retarded ejaculation from his illegal dick dope overdose. He doesn't care. His chicas take this as a challenge to their women hood. They work the dick for well over an hour. Finally, I join him with two more of my own, one an old fave along with her new friend, new to the biz, who takes instruction well. The friend throated a better dick. I finally had to take them up to the room to finish the takedown. Day one completed: 3 nuts / 4 kills (unless blowjobs don't count.) Reasonable minds can disagree, right, Mr. President? Naturally.

Sleepless Mr. 'I need a nap' takes up an offer from the night Mamasan to join her and some friends for a night of partying. It's Friday night and she's off the clock. Hmmmm. I advise against. Rookienoob shows up to the crib at 0600 next morning with Mama in tow. He had a great time visiting her place, riding all night on the back of her motoconcho, drunk, getting shown off to all her local friends. He somehow manages to stick it in before passing the fuck out. $3, 000 pesos and hurt feelings later he finds out the hard way that there is no such thing as off the clock with these chicas. No. Naturally.

Saturday is Bikini Contest. Rookienoob is one of the three Judges. I pound out another kill after a late breakfast. Then another kill at night after dinner. We hit the beach during the day just to say we saw the ocean and stop by the Catamaran beach bar / rest two hours early for their famous 3-1 rum and coke 'power hour' special. So we grab a rare German beer at Pascal's beach on the walk back to BB's. Rookienoob takes another kill. We relax, smoke, booze it up, and chat with Chris Long about his many trips to almost every major kill zone known to mankind. He's a freak. We leave the next day so 4 of us make plans to share a taxi to POP. Time for sleep? No! Rookienoob is leaving with a group of DTF brothers at 0100 for a 'make it rain' trip to So-sewer. I advise against. He shows back up to the crib at 0700 with some Sosua clinger in tow. He passes the fuck out, snoring so loud I vacate the penthouse suite at 0800 for an early breakfast and some of BB's free colon blow coffee. The coffee does the trick. Naturally!

Final plans involve a hoped for deep throat, relaxing BBBJTCCIM in the Jacuzzi. I repeat with the old fave because she's a nice person and I admire her mind. Packing frenzy ensues. Meanwhile, Rookienoob manages to offend the honor of his clinger by offering all he has left. 2,300 pesos. She refuses the money and goes to find her Sosua friends so she can sit and cry in a plastic lawn chair. Her value is deflating. Rookienoob gives the day Mamasan only 1, 600 pesos now. Hey, he has to eat, right? We hit our shared taxi van and pop smoke for the airport. We make it on time and pass through the security layers in decent time. Time to board. No, wait, time to un-ass the aircraft owing to an 'indicator light. ' Fuck! Two hours later we take off. The four of us make the mile long walk to customs and miraculously re-enter the security perimeter for our various connections. No evil stares and leading questions from the passenger profiling TSA motherfuckers. Not this time. Unnaturally.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1465560]I don't mean this in a mean way, but every time I see these beaver photo galleries, it makes me laugh. Its just so silly, its hilarious!

So do you take these photos before the deed or after? Do you ask their permission, and if so, how exactly do you phrase it? Do you so play the alpha male: "Yo woman, I want to take a pic of your pussy!". Or do you butter them up first,"Wow, you have the most beautiful vagina. Can I take a picture so that I can remember it? Please?"

And how can we know for sure that these aren't recycled pictures? We should require dated newspapers in the photo![/QUOTE]This is what I do Manny. ALL pics are post takedown. I favor the blown out look but some chica's boxes return to normal looking anyway. I speak very good Spanish. I always tell them they have a really pretty box whether I mean it or not. Doesn't matter. I assure them that I won't take a face pic and I let them look at the pic of their box. If they don't like it I'll delete it and take another one they approve of. Lastly, I keep a promise to myself to NEVER mention their names. I've never done that. I'm glad you appreciate my sick humor. I need to get some help. Planning my next trip is the cure.

I just spent 2 days at Blackbeards and 2 days at Field of Dreams and I would like to share the below listed comments. Hopefully they will help someone going forward.

Locations:

Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable.

Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.

Web Presence:

Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. All responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.

Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were delayed and not timely.

Room quality:

Blackbeard's basic room was small but quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. The WI-FI worked intermittently in the room and when it didn't I used the WI-FI outside the room on the balcony. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV but I am not much of a TV person on vacation.

Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had a view of the pool from my room. The WI-FI worked intermittently in and outside the room. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV with the porn channel on when I walked in the room. What kind of guy do they think I am?

Payment:

Blackbeard's basic room was $45. 00 per night plus $8. 00 tax for a total of $106. 00 for 2 nights.

Field of Dreams basic room was $50. 00 per night a total of $100. 00 for 2 nights.

Mini Bar fridge:

Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. The mini-bar had the basics: chips 60DP, water 40DP, beer 120DP Pepsi &7Up 60DP and rum 375DP. 16%TAX AND 10% service charge.

Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.

Safes:

Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet.

Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50. 00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.

Assistance with luggage:

Blackbeard's total self serve.

Field of Dreams total self serve.

Staff service & Housekeeping:

Blackbeard's staff was EXCELLENT for the most part everybody was upbeat with greetings and good customer service.

Field of Dreams staff was good it started off slow in the absence of management but when the managers showed up for the most part everybody was upbeat with greetings and good customer service.

Bar:

Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.

Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.

Grounds:

Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate.

Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.

Restaurants:

Blackbeard's the food is reasonable and everything I ate was tan sabroso.

• Desayuno. Most of the breakfast items are a la cart. Eggs, bacon, toast and home-fries with a drink will cost approximately 250DP.

• Almuerzo. Chef salad. 195DP.

• Cena. Sanchocho con arroz why pan. 300DP.

Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000DP items such as 10oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. Everything I had was good.

• Desayuno. Most of the breakfast items are a la cart. Eggs, bacon, I had pancakes and fruit. The pancakes were good with a orange flavor to them. 210DP.

• Almuerzo. Caesar Salad with chicken 318DP. It came with cheese, I made it clear I didn't want cheese and they rectified it and brought me another salad.

• Cena. Pechuga de Pollo en Miel. 409DP. The chicken breast was juicy and I could taste a hint of honey and butter.

Noise:

Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering. At night if there is an event going on in the second bar upstairs you will be able to hear the music and noise associated with the crowd. After midnight everything shut down and it was tan tranquilo.

Field of Dreams At night if there is an event going on you will be able to hear the music and noise associated with the crowd. After midnight everything shut down and it was tan tranquilo. I woke up one morning to the sounds of a man having what sounded like a heart attack, I cannot imagine what he was doing.

Transportation:

Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request.

Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location)

Safety:

Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Excursions:

The below list of excursions is not exhaustive but just a sample of things to do:

Amber Museum. Puerto Plata.

Brugal Rum Tour- Puerto Plata.

Ocean World- Puerto Plata.

Damajagua Cascades (I guess it's like Dunn's River Falls in Jamaica)

Mount Isabel de Torres. The park and the Teleferico. Puerto Plata.

Puerto Plata town. El Centro (for shopping and souvenirs)

Golf in Playa Dorada

Horseback & ATVing.

Playa Dorada AI day pass for the beach.

Chicas:

Blackbeard's Chicas:

The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. There are 2 groups of chicas. The afternoon shift 11am- 6pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5pm. Midnight. 1600DP for ST and 3000DP for TLN. The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. When they arrive at work they sign in and are required to turn their cell phones in. (EXCELLENT idea) They will often start their shift in heels and end in flats and of course I can't blame them.

The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour." Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.

The chicas ranged from 6-8 with some stars (close to 9) that could pass for models, but I would say the average would be rated a 7.

GFE & PSE.

All of the chicas I dealt with were pleasant some were more friendly than others. The sessions were professional but not mechanical. I could best describe them as somewhere between GFE and PSE, I found I either enjoyed the BBBJ or the sex more as can be expected each girl had her strengths and weaknesses.

Field of Dreams Chicas.

The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas. There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which stragle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600DP for ST and 3000DP for TLN. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.

The chicas are very friendly with one another and they were a more lively group than the Blackbeards chicas. They do not work in pairs like the Blackbeards chicas. Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-7 with 1 or 2 close to 8. The chicas spent their time playing pool, in the pool or playing cards.

GFE & PSE.

All of the chicas I dealt with were pleasant some were more friendly than others. The sessions were not professional like Blackbeards I had my first PSE and GFE of the trip here. The chicas in general could not touch the Blackbeards chicas but they made up for it in attitude and fun.

Check in & Check out.

Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys.

Field of Dreams has no check in desk and the office was closed upon my arrival. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.

Cambio:

• Wells Fargo Bank US: 37-1.

• Exchange POP airport: 36-1.

• Western Union (La Sirena Puerto Plata) : 42. 6-1.

• Jenny's Market Costambar: 42-1.

• Balckbeard's: 40-1

• Field of Dreams: 42-1.

Conclusion:

Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams; in addition not only does Blackbeards have twice as many chicas on site than Field of Dreams the chicas of Blackbeards in general are far more attractive. I experienced 4 Blackbeards chicas and 2 Field of Dreams chicas and although I enjoyed them all I enjoyed my experience with the Field of Dreams chicas the most.

The primary advantage of Field of Dreams in my opinion is its location which is close to both the airport and Sosua. If a monger has a transportation he can more readily use Field of Dreams as a base of operations since Blackbeards is much further away from Sosua.

Finally if I was seeking a simple inexpensive sex vacation with the minimum of hassles I would choose Blackbeards over Field of Dreams any day of the week.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257; 1466653]I just spent 2 days at Blackbeards and 2 days at Field of Dreams and I would like to share the below listed comments. Hopefully they will help someone going forward.

Locations:

Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable.

Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams; in addition not only does Blackbeards have twice as many chicas on site than Field of Dreams the chicas of Blackbeards in general are far more attractive. I experienced 4 Blackbeards chicas and 2 Field of Dreams chicas and although I enjoyed them all I enjoyed my experience with the Field of Dreams chicas the most.

The primary advantage of Field of Dreams in my opinion is its location which is close to both the airport and Sosua. If a monger has a transportation he can more readily use Field of Dreams as a base of operations since Blackbeards is much further away from Sosua.

Finally if I was seeking a simple inexpensive sex vacation with the minimum of hassles I would choose Blackbeards over Field of Dreams any day of the week.[/QUOTE]Great report!

A couple of additional questions-

1. Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road. I saw things like "Costambar Royal Hotel" so I knew that I was roughly in the area, but eventually just drove through it.

2. Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?

3. Were the photos of the girls on the website / newsletter fairly representative? Or were they better or worse looking?

4. If you cabbed it, how much was the taxi / moto from BB to Sosua each way?

Thanks!

There's nothing much at the intersection but it's the first road west of the river that crosses highway 5. It's on the right a few hundred feet past the bridge if heading west. The road only goes north of highway 5 and winds past some commercial buildings and a small barrio of shacks before reaching the Costambar entrance. It's easy to find on google earth or maps.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1466733]Great report!

A couple of additional questions-

1. Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road. I saw things like "Costambar Royal Hotel" so I knew that I was roughly in the area, but eventually just drove through it.

2. Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?

3. Were the photos of the girls on the website / newsletter fairly representative? Or were they better or

4. If you cabbed it, how much was the taxi / moto from BB to Sosua each way?

Thanks![/QUOTE]1. I took a taxi I could not answer that question.

2. That would have been a good addition to the report but I didn't think to inquire about STD testing.

3. I didn't see photos of any chicas on either site.

4. I have been using the same taxista for years. I paid him 2000DP upon arrival because we ran alot of errands around POP before arriving at BB. I paid him 1500DP to go back to the airport.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1466733]Great report!

A couple of additional questions-

1. Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road. I saw things like "Costambar Royal Hotel" so I knew that I was roughly in the area, but eventually just drove through it.

2. Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?

3. Were the photos of the girls on the website / newsletter fairly representative? Or were they better or worse looking?

4. If you cabbed it, how much was the taxi / moto from BB to Sosua each way?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Coming from Santiago it's easy to miss the entrance because its before the bridge. After you pass Confesori and the casinos its coming up. If you are heading to Santiago from puerto Plata, its after the bridge. My landmark I tell people is after you cross the bridge look to the right and you will see a big yellow house.

Similar to Camaro1257, I also spent 3 nights at Blackbeards. 2 at Field of Dreams and 2 at New Garden in Sosua.

Camaro1257 made an excellent report. Surprised we did not cross paths. I had the opportunity to hang with BundaMan, Chris Long and Senor Aqua Man. All great guys.

My first 3 nights were at Blackbeards. The place is very well organized. The prices are very inexpensive (food, lodging). It was nice to leave the resort by foot everyday to walk around around Costambar and go to the bach. I enjoyed the Katamaran and Solo Mea restaurants. Rooms were very basic but decent. The place is clean. The place is very structured and runs kind of like a summer camp. You know when something is happening. I. E. A shift change for the chicas.

I also had 2 nights at Field of Dreams. This place was much mellower than Blackbeards. The rooms and overall facility are better at Field of Dreams. High quality mattress. They did not have the same party atmosphere or comraderie as Blackbeards as it was very quiet when I was there.

I also had 2 nights in Sosua at New Garden. The room was poor. Behind the hotel there was a baseball field that had constant use. It was very loud. The announcer was blasting commentary until midnight on Saturday. Other times they just blasted music which I could not block out. It was if my TV was on full blast inside my room. No ability to nap or rest. Not relaxing. It was as if I was living in a Saturday Night Live skit-it was hilarious the way they played music between batters and danced between innings. Dominicans are passionate about their baseball. The action was at D'Latin or Rhumba Bar. They are both next to each other. All freelancers.

With regard to Chicas, Sosua had hundreds walking around at night. Many are pretty. However, I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing and the fact they do not have to answer to management can result in trouble. You hear stories. No regrets. Sosua was a fun part of the vacation as it was a fun experience.

With regards to FOD and Blackbeards, I felt that Field of Dreams had a more attractive selection. IMHO, FOD chicas were far more GFE than Blackbeards. Possibly because it was a more intimate environment. Blackbeards girls were nice but I felt they were much more on a structured program.

To conclude, I highly recommend both FOD and Blackbeards. When I return I will go to both places as I like the variety and change after a few days. Staying at one place gets boring regardless of chicas, ambiance etc. For me it is not so much as would I choose one over the other but I would make the opportunity to go to both hotels for the variety.

R

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1467101]Similar to Camaro1257, I also spent 3 nights at Blackbeards. 2 at Field of Dreams and 2 at New Garden in Sosua.

Camaro1257 made an excellent report. Surprised we did not cross paths. I had the opportunity to hang with BundaMan, Chris Long and Senor Aqua Man. All great guys.

My first 3 nights were at Blackbeards. The place is very well organized. The prices are very inexpensive (food, lodging). It was nice to leave the resort by foot everyday to walk around around Costambar and go to the bach. I enjoyed the Katamaran and Solo Mea restaurants. Rooms were very basic but decent. The place is clean. The place is very structured and runs kind of like a summer camp. You know when something is happening. I. E. A shift change for the chicas.

I also had 2 nights at Field of Dreams. This place was much mellower than Blackbeards. The rooms and overall facility are better at Field of Dreams. High quality mattress. They did not have the same party atmosphere or comraderie as Blackbeards as it was very quiet when I was there.

I also had 2 nights in Sosua at New Garden. The room was poor. Behind the hotel there was a baseball field that had constant use. It was very loud. The announcer was blasting commentary until midnight on Saturday. Other times they just blasted music which I could not block out. It was if my TV was on full blast inside my room. No ability to nap or rest. Not relaxing. It was as if I was living in a Saturday Night Live skit-it was hilarious the way they played music between batters and danced between innings. Dominicans are passionate about their baseball. The action was at D'Latin or Rhumba Bar. They are both next to each other. All freelancers.

With regard to Chicas, Sosua had hundreds walking around at night. Many are pretty. However, I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing and the fact they do not have to answer to management can result in trouble. You hear stories. No regrets. Sosua was a fun part of the vacation as it was a fun experience.

With regards to FOD and Blackbeards, I felt that Field of Dreams had a more attractive selection. IMHO, FOD chicas were far more GFE than Blackbeards. Possibly because it was a more intimate environment. Blackbeards girls were nice but I felt they were much more on a structured program.

To conclude, I highly recommend both FOD and Blackbeards. When I return I will go to both places as I like the variety and change after a few days. Staying at one place gets boring regardless of chicas, ambiance etc. For me it is not so much as would I choose one over the other but I would make the opportunity to go to both hotels for the variety.

R[/QUOTE]. I enjoyed your commentary.

[QUOTE=Rwaters; 1467101]Similar to Camaro1257, I also spent 3 nights at Blackbeards. 2 at Field of Dreams and 2 at New Garden in Sosua.

With regard to Chicas, Sosua had hundreds walking around at night. Many are pretty. However, I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing and the fact they do not have to answer to management can result in trouble. You hear stories. No regrets. Sosua was a fun part of the vacation as it was a fun experience.

With regards to FOD and Blackbeards, I felt that Field of Dreams had a more attractive selection. IMHO, FOD chicas were far more GFE than Blackbeards. Possibly because it was a more intimate environment. Blackbeards girls were nice but I felt they were much more on a structured program.

R[/QUOTE]Nice report. I will have to check out BB someday. Gleaning through the forums, the multiple postings are about a wash. Some like FOD slightly better, others are vice versa.

And my opinion about Sosua is the same. Why bother when you have higher quality control environments at the same price?

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1467186]Nice report. I will have to check out BB someday. Gleaning through the forums, the multiple postings are about a wash. Some like FOD slightly better, others are vice versa.

And my opinion about Sosua is the same. Why bother when you have higher quality control environments at the same price?[/QUOTE]. You make a good point. The difference is you have far more selection in Sosua than BB or FOD. IMHO BB & FOD are for low risk mongers who do not want to hunt. I enjoyed the relaxed hassle free environment of both venues but Sosua presents a challenge compelling me to use my language and social skills for a good result. IMHO Sosua presents more risk than BB or FOD but it also presents more rewards.

I was impressed!

We are all familiar with corrupt police and government officials as well as los tigueres de la calle that will try to rip you off and the mafiosa chicas who will do the same but I would like to share the following experiences in contrast:

•I accidently dropped a photo copy of my I'd and approximately 1500DP in small bills while sitting in the pool table area of the Field of Dreams. I got up and walked to my room and halfway there the bartender comes running behind me saying "oye!"and hands me my belongings. I need not say what could have happened.

•My chica and I emerged from our session to find the other chicas dressed in the uniform of the day which was lingerie. The Mamasan chewed my chica out and she had to pay a 100DP multa for the infraction. I tried to reimburse her 100DP and she said "no gracias."

•I decided to treat my chica to dinner since I was so satisfied with our session. There are 1000DP items on the menu but she orders a simple pollo a la parilla why papas fritas for about 300DP. My chica calls her amiga over divides her meal and drink in half and feeds her amiga. Her generosity and humility touched me mi corozon se derrite! The total bill came to 1100DP for everything and I can only say witnessing the spirit of what took place was worth every peso!

[QUOTE=Camaro1257; 1467283]I was impressed!

We are all familiar with corrupt police and government officials as well as los tigueres de la calle that will try to rip you off and the mafiosa chicas who will do the same but I would like to share the following experiences in contrast:

•I accidently dropped a photo copy of my I'd and approximately 1500DP in small bills while sitting in the pool table area of the Field of Dreams. I got up and walked to my room and halfway there the bartender comes running behind me saying "oye!"and hands me my belongings. I need not say what could have happened.

•My chica and I emerged from our session to find the other chicas dressed in the uniform of the day which was lingerie. The Mamasan chewed my chica out and she had to pay a 100DP multa for the infraction. I tried to reimburse her 100DP and she said "no gracias."

•I decided to treat my chica to dinner since I was so satisfied with our session. There are 1000DP items on the menu but she orders a simple pollo a la parilla why papas fritas for about 300DP. My chica calls her amiga over divides her meal and drink in half and feeds her amiga. Her generosity and humility touched me mi corozon se derrite! The total bill came to 1100DP for everything and I can only say witnessing the spirit of what took place was worth every peso![/QUOTE]Can you share these chicas names, so we can reward them with more business? I am headed to FOD and BB next week.

Yep.

I had a few dollars and coins on the desk of my hotel room the whole week. 12 chicas came to visit me. There is not a single coin missing.

(disclamer: I am very thorough in selecting girls to take back to my hotel. I've met a monger who had his laptop robbed by a girl)

[QUOTE=Camaro1257; 1467283]I was impressed!

We are all familiar with corrupt police and government officials as well as los tigueres de la calle that will try to rip you off and the mafiosa chicas who will do the same but I would like to share the following experiences in contrast:

•I accidently dropped a photo copy of my I'd and approximately 1500DP in small bills while sitting in the pool table area of the Field of Dreams. I got up and walked to my room and halfway there the bartender comes running behind me saying "oye!"and hands me my belongings. I need not say what could have happened.

•My chica and I emerged from our session to find the other chicas dressed in the uniform of the day which was lingerie. The Mamasan chewed my chica out and she had to pay a 100DP multa for the infraction. I tried to reimburse her 100DP and she said "no gracias."

•I decided to treat my chica to dinner since I was so satisfied with our session. There are 1000DP items on the menu but she orders a simple pollo a la parilla why papas fritas for about 300DP. My chica calls her amiga over divides her meal and drink in half and feeds her amiga. Her generosity and humility touched me mi corozon se derrite! The total bill came to 1100DP for everything and I can only say witnessing the spirit of what took place was worth every peso![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Husker Dude;1467343]Can you share these chicas names, so we can reward them with more business? I am headed to FOD and BB next week.[/QUOTE]Husker Dude I am sorry I do not recall her name. I am sure it is operator error but I have difficulty uploading pictures on this sight. If you PM me your e-mail I will send you her photo. She resembles Kelly Rowland of the girl group Destinys Child.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa; 1467610]Yep.

I had a few dollars and coins on the desk of my hotel room the whole week. 12 chicas came to visit me. There is not a single coin missing.

(disclamer: I am very thorough in selecting girls to take back to my hotel. I've met a monger who had his laptop robbed by a girl) [/QUOTE]Would you care to share the hotel and your screening process?

Jacuzzi Option: Lo siento hermanos, I neglected to report about the Jacuzzi Option. You can take a girl into the Jacuzzi where both of you can get naked for about 30 minutes for 500DP. If you decide to session with her the 500DP is rolled into the regular tarifa 1600DP for ST and 3000DP for TLN. I did not try this option so I cannot make any personal observations.

Thanks for all the reports. I am really looking forward to a trip. I can't seem to find what ST means at blackbeard's, is it 1 hour? One or more pops?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bobz12;1467738]Thanks for all the reports. I am really looking forward to a trip. I can't seem to find what ST means at blackbeard's, is it 1 hour? One or more pops? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Blackbeards ST is 2 hours or 1 pop which ever comes first.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony;1466812]There's nothing much at the intersection but it's the first road west of the river that crosses highway 5. It's on the right a few hundred feet past the bridge if heading west. The road only goes north of highway 5 and winds past some commercial buildings and a small barrio of shacks before reaching the Costambar entrance. It's easy to find on google earth or maps.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll take a closer look for it next time.

Well I spent 7 wonderful days at BB from August 25 to September 1 the weather was gorgeous the food was good and there was Water in the Pool this time around. Unlike my previest trip in 2012 where they were doing renovations to the pool. The Staff was excellent and the Chicas were so great. This was my 3rd time there and every time it is been very memorable.

[QUOTE=Rwaters;1467101]I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Manny51;1466733]Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?[/QUOTE]I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.

However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:

(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.

(2) I have no confidence in any effort at testing or quality control made by Dominicans. Most of them are incompetent, many are corrupt, and a lot are both. It is has often been shown than pharmaceuticals sold here by well-known pharmacy chains are inferior clones or totally bogus. Most official jobs are handed to family members, political part stalwarts, to pay off debts or reward sexual favors, regardless of lack of qualifications.

While I was moving into my present Dominican apartment block, my friendly but busybody neighbour introduced herself. One of the first things she said was that, if I wanted a Dominican driving licence, she could get me one quickly for a small fee. As I was struggling with a three-seater sofa at the time, and had no intention of ever driving on this damned island, I did not particularly want to get involved in that conversation at that time so I said that I already had a contact for a bootleg driving licence. This greatly offended her and she pointed out that what she was offering was [u]genuine[/u] not bootleg, as her daughter worked in the office that issues licences in Pto Pta and that it would bear the original signature of her daughter's boss.

This lady is extremely respectable and a devout Christian. As far as she was concerned the licences were legal and valid. It did not worry her that I would be bypassing the required driving and written tests. That is the Dominican way. I see no reason to think the people testing the putas would be any different. If there is any way they could cut corners to save trouble or embezzle money they would not think twice before doing so.

(3) There are not two classes of putas, those who work the casas and those who free-lance. Some may stick to one type of work, true, but I have been here long enough to see the same girls rotating round BB, FoD, Cristal, Passions, and numerous other bars and clubs, and free-lancing on the streets. In particular I have seen, and on occasion accompanied, girls from BB and FoD going to freelance after working their hours at the casa.

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So your chances of not picking up an STD at BB or FoD may be better, but not enough to take risks you would not take with a free-lancer in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1466733]Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road.[/QUOTE]Coming from Santiago, once you are past Cofresi but before you get to Puerto Plata, look for the University on your left, with a Provocon restaurant facing it, and turn down that road. At the end of that road, turn right and when you come to the Costambar Gate turn left through it. The Gate is about a kilometre from the highway.

That way in the road is usually better maintained than the later turning, though the latter has improved no end from seven years ago when it was notorious.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1469336]I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.

However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:

(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.

(2) I have no confidence in any effort at testing or quality control made by Dominicans. Most of them are incompetent, many are corrupt, and a lot are both. It is has often been shown than pharmaceuticals sold here by well-known pharmacy chains are inferior clones or totally bogus. Most official jobs are handed to family members, political part stalwarts, to pay off debts or reward sexual favors, regardless of lack of qualifications.

While I was moving into my present Dominican apartment block, my friendly but busybody neighbour introduced herself. One of the first things she said was that, if I wanted a Dominican driving licence, she could get me one quickly for a small fee. As I was struggling with a three-seater sofa at the time, and had no intention of ever driving on this damned island, I did not particularly want to get involved in that conversation at that time so I said that I already had a contact for a bootleg driving licence. This greatly offended her and she pointed out that what she was offering was [u]genuine[/u] Not bootleg, as her daughter worked in the office that issues licences in Pto Pta and that it would bear the original signature of her daughter's boss.

This lady is extremely respectable and a devout Christian. As far as she was concerned the licences were legal and valid. It did not worry her that I would be bypassing the required driving and written tests. That is the Dominican way. I see no reason to think the people testing the putas would be any different. If there is any way they could cut corners to save trouble or embezzle money they would not think twice before doing so.

(3) There are not two classes of putas, those who work the casas and those who free-lance. Some may stick to one type of work, true, but I have been here long enough to see the same girls rotating round BB, FoD, Cristal, Passions, and numerous other bars and clubs, and free-lancing on the streets. In particular I have seen, and on occasion accompanied, girls from BB and FoD going to freelance after working their hours at the casa.

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So your chances of not picking up an STD at BB or FoD may be better, but not enough to take risks you would not take with a free-lancer in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input.

The way I see it, there are two factors that together determine the overall risk of any kind of STD transmission: 1) the risk from your behavior, and 2) the risk that your partner brings.

In regards to the first, one can minimize this by using a condom. Some even resort to taking prophylactic medications. Some guys are determined to go bareback, or to go down on them. I understand the temptation, as long as you keep in mind that the increased risk of STD transmission in this case is on YOU.

The second is the risk that she brings: I. E, her risk of carrying an STD of some kind. This is where going to venues where girls are tested can help. It doesn't guarantee anything, for all the reasons that you brought up. But it does reduce the probability that she has something. That's why I often ask questions about testing and STD prevalance. I know that I can control factor #1. But I always want to try and minimize factor #2 as well.

Every once in a while I will post such a question, especially in parts of the world that I am not familiar with, and I always get immediately jumped on by guys calling me "weak" or a "whiny newbie." I have read all kinds of twisted logic. I am wearing a condom, so her risk doesn't matter. STD testing is imperfect, so there is no point in even seeking it out. Whatever man. If you want to engage in higher risk behavior for a better experience, then that is your choice. But don't try to rationalize your behavior or salve your own fears by posting nonsense opinions. The way I see it, the only people that don't care about STDs are those that already have something.

BTW C Pooter, that last rant was not aimed at you. I just get tired of reading nonsense all over the forum. Peace.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1469336]I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.

However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:

(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.

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So your chances of not picking up an STD at BB or FoD may be better, but not enough to take risks you would not take with a free-lancer in Sosua.[/QUOTE]In my experience it's common in the social class of chicas we're discussing that "casual sex" is with a condom but sex with your novio is bareback as a matter of romantic commitment. After a week or so, chicas who want to take it to the next level will often say you are my love and my novio and you don't need a condom, and be disappointed at still using one as a rejection of their having novia status.

It's not likely that a policy about STD testing in this context, especially as Charles points out one administered by Dominicans, will produce results worth much consideration.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1469336]I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.

However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:

(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.

Where would we take a girl to have her tested for a STD. Do they give her the test that day.

I am glad this discussion came up we get lax having a good time and want to forget about safety but guy's like you will give us a wake up and we listen

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1469849]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1469336]I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.

However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:

(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.

Where would we take a girl to have her tested for a STD. Do they give her the test that day.

I am glad this discussion came up we get lax having a good time and want to forget about safety but guy's like you will give us a wake up and we listen[/QUOTE]You can buy a do-it-yourself instant test in a pharmacy.

After a week or so, chicas who want to take it to the next level will often say you are my love and my novio and you don't need a condom, and be disappointed at still using one as a rejection of their having novia status.

So almost like "if you love me f#k me raw! Interesting concept. The DR is very unique! LOL

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1470006]

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1469849]You can buy a do-it-yourself instant test in a pharmacy.[/QUOTE]Come on Frannie are you for real. If so have you tried them. What pharmacy did you get them at and what should I have to pay for it.

How long have they had them in the store's. Have they been reliable so far.

Thanks for all post

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1470339]

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1470006]Come on Frannie are you for real. If so have you tried them. What pharmacy did you get them at and what should I have to pay for it.

How long have they had them in the store's. Have they been reliable so far.

Thanks for all post[/QUOTE]I bought two kits in the pharmacy at the gas station in Sosua several years ago. Not very expensive, though I don't remember the price. My test was negative and proved in retrospect to be correct (!) but I have no statistics on reliability. Obviously better than nothing.

[QUOTE=Frannie;14700060]You can buy a do-it-yourself instant test in a pharmacy.[/QUOTE]What STDs does it test for?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1470461]What STDs does it test for?[/QUOTE]HIV AIDS is what it tests for.

Something like this:

[url]http://www.test-hiv-yourself.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1470473]HIV AIDS is what it tests for.[/QUOTE]That is what I assumed. The OPs wrote about STDs in general, not HIV or AIDS in particular. There must be a thousand mongers catch other STDs for every one who catches HIV / AIDS. The great majority of those other diseases are trivial or not life-threatening but some can kill you more surely than AIDs and a damn sight quicker, plus a lot more which can fuck up your life without killing you quickly. I bet ten mongers die from Hepatitis for every one that dies from AIDs and twenty times as many die from smoking or excess alcohol.

To ignore the danger of AIDS is ignorant, but to be obsessed with it and ignore far more likely threats is more ignorant.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1470491]That is what I assumed. The OPs wrote about STDs in general, not HIV or AIDS in particular. There must be a thousand mongers catch other STDs for every one who catches HIV / AIDS. The great majority of those other diseases are trivial or not life-threatening but some can kill you more surely than AIDs and a damn sight quicker, plus a lot more which can fuck up your life without killing you quickly. I bet ten mongers die from Hepatitis for every one that dies from AIDs and twenty times as many die from smoking or excess alcohol.

To ignore the danger of AIDS is ignorant, but to be obsessed with it and ignore far more likely threats is more ignorant.[/QUOTE]The statistics are quite right Mr Pooter.

What one needs to know about the test kit are the sensitivity and specificity. There will be false negatives due to there not being enough antibody in the blood but this does not mean the test in inaccurate. There will also be a few false positives because that is the way the test is set up by the manufacturer. The same thing happens in all lab based testing and the results are about the same accuracy as with the OTC kits. The only way one can be sure is to test for the virus itself and that is a lab abed and expensive test.

For other less threatening problems such as chlamydia and gonorrhea just wait for the drip. Clear, it is chlamydia and milky it is gonorrhea.

I remember the days when we thought getting herpes was the end of the world.

[QUOTE=Brother P; 1470202]After a week or so, chicas who want to take it to the next level will often say you are my love and my novio and you don't need a condom, and be disappointed at still using one as a rejection of their having novia status.

So almost like "if you love me f#k me raw! Interesting concept. The DR is very unique! LOL[/QUOTE]It's a Catholic latin american country. Abortion is illegal. Birth control is available but the church disapproves of it and popular acceptance is mixed. The statement made by doing it raw is they are trusting you about STDs and are willing to have your baby which is a pretty strong statement.

Strong statement LOL. She probably hopes to get a child support from you. Anyone has an experience with unwanted pregnancy and chica's attempt to squeeze money out of you?

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony;1470570]It's a Catholic latin american country. Abortion is illegal. Birth control is available but the church disapproves of it and popular acceptance is mixed. The statement made by doing it raw is they are trusting you about STDs and are willing to have your baby which is a pretty strong statement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1470491]That is what I assumed. The OPs wrote about STDs in general, not HIV or AIDS in particular. There must be a thousand mongers catch other STDs for every one who catches HIV / AIDS. The great majority of those other diseases are trivial or not life-threatening but some can kill you more surely than AIDs and a damn sight quicker, plus a lot more which can fuck up your life without killing you quickly. I bet ten mongers die from Hepatitis for every one that dies from AIDs and twenty times as many die from smoking or excess alcohol.

To ignore the danger of AIDS is ignorant, but to be obsessed with it and ignore far more likely threats is more ignorant.[/QUOTE]Can we catch any of this shit from allowing a chica to suck our dick with out a condom

[QUOTE=Grub1;1471029]Can we catch any of this shit from allowing a chica to suck our dick with out a condom[/QUOTE]Sure, but not a great risk unless she has obvious herpes sores on her lips. The risk would be greater for her to catch something from you. When the day comes to resorting to blowjobs with condoms it is time to give up mongering and take up a safer hobby like pressing wild flowers.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1471046]Sure, but not a great risk unless she has obvious herpes sores on her lips. The risk would be greater for her to catch something from you. When the day comes to resorting to blowjobs with condoms it is time to give up mongering and take up a safer hobby like pressing wild flowers.[/QUOTE]That's good news because we never get with any chica who has any sore's at all that you could see

This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB) [url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/[/url] Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.

Airport:

The airport that you fly into when visiting Black Beards is Puerto Plata POP, the airport has had some recent renovations made to it and is pretty nice. There is a $10 visa you pay when you arrive then you go through immigration have your passport stamped turn to your right after that and collect your luggage, there are money exchanges in the luggage retrieval area but they offer a lousy rate and you should avoid exchanging your money there. Once you retrieve your luggage you go through customs which is a cursory check sometimes they will have you put your luggage through an x-ray sometime they don't even have you do that. After this you will go through the doors turn left and exit the building, there will be guys in white shirts offering to carry your luggage for you but you really don't need these guys it's only a few steps to exit. Once you exit the building the drivers will be standing to your right.

Transportation:

Black beards will arrange your airport pick up for you the cost is $45 one way, if there are more guests on the same flight the cost will be a little less. I believe if they are picking up two people the cost will be $30 each. You pay the taxi fee when you check into the hotel you do not pay the driver directly. There is a bit of a taxi mafia and not all free-lance taxi drivers at the airport will be willing to take you to BB. Once at BB you will have to use the local taxi drivers because of the taxi mafia and rates can be a little step in my opinion. BB will also arrange your return taxi back to the airport at the same price.

Costambar:

Black Beards is located in Costambar a gated community within Puerto Plata. It is an upper class neighborhood near the beach where more affluent Dominicans live and where foreigners will rent or buy summer homes. The area has some nice homes a few other nice resorts and a few nice restaurants. There are also a few vacation homes that are abandoned and not lived in. The area is safe, clean and beautiful

Black Beards:

Black Beards is a clean well run attractive resort, the rooms are well kept comfortable and beautiful, air-conditioning refrigerator in room safe hot and cold running water. A restaurant and bar which has good food at a reasonable price, a pool, pool table, Jacuzzi and other amenities, the resort is attractive comfortable and hospitable.

Chicas:

The chicas work in two shift from 11:am until 6. M and from 6. M until midnight there are anywhere from a dozen or so chicas per shift, there shifts vary so every day and every shift the combination of chicas is slightly different. Price is 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos for all night. 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi, however if you release you owe the full session price of 1600. Many of the chicas can be aggressive in trying to get you to session with them. Many will try to make an appointment with you for later that day or the next day. If you schedule an appointment with a chica you are required to keep it, if you don't keep the appointment you still owe the chica her fee. Often I would see chicas I wanted so I would arrange appointments with them only to wish I hadn't later as I would see other chicas that I wanted to do instead. There is a momason who manages the chicas for each shift, you can arrange an appointment with a chica through the momason or even ask her which chicas will do certain fetishes.

During the day time the chicas gather around the pool or the bar wearing bikinis at night they wear sexy nightclub clothes and around 9. M or so they gather upstairs at the disco in BB. Often there will be a theme night wear the girls will wear certain types of outfits.

There are no outside freelancers wondering into BB. All of the girls there are BB girls. None actually work through the hotel itself but work through the momason. You can bring in outside girls if you like but outside freelance girls are not allowed to wonder in on their own looking for customers.

In my opinion many of the chicas are very, very hot and I was pleased with the beauty I found at BB. I felt this on my first trip there and I still feel this today. You could close your eyes and point at the crowd of girl and you would be happy with the looks of the one you picked.

After midnight the chicas leave and the place becomes pretty deserted at that time.

Services:

All girls give BBBJ all girls allowed DATY all girls did light FK. The services are good from many of the girls, however, there is a certain amount of assembly line routineness from some of the girls and a certain amount of bad acting in the bedroom from some of the girls. Almost all of the girls are however very skilled in their craft, and many do in fact enjoy what they do.

I've never tried to do them more than once during the two hour session so I don't know if it's one and done or you can do them as much as you want during the time paid for it may depend upon the girl.

For all night most girls do you once at night and once in the morning but I have had girls I've done several times throughout the night, most girls leave around 8 or 9 in the morning when I've had them spend the night.

Freelancers:

On previous trips I was told by other guest there are freelancers available in the area especially on the beach. Personally I never seen anyone I could say was a definite freelancer especially on the beach. On this trip however I ran into two chicas who were definite free lancers one was not attractive enough to spark my interest and the other looked questionable in age so I took a pass on both of them. There are regular girls who live in the area and families who visit the beach many of these girls are attractive. Often when passing these girls I would glance their way and say Hola, none ever showed much interest or slowed down there walk, but I am 50ish and overweight. I have been with other younger apparently more appealing mongers who have gotten big smiles and even had the local girls approach them.

If there are freelancers in the area they are not available in large number or overly obvious. You can take them back to BB if they have identification but the BB girls really frown on this.

Prices:

As stated above price at BB are 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos all night and 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi but if you release you owe the full 1600 pesos. The freelancer was quoting me 1500 pesos. I always paid the BB girls after the session never before and you should always pay after no matter where in the world you are mongering. None ever asked me for tips or required extra for BBBJ this comes with the standard price.

Money:

Everything works in Pesos though you can pay the girl the equivalent in dollars if you do not have pesos. I have done this a few times in the past and the girls were fine with this.

The best place to exchange your money is at Yenneys super market it's a convenient store in Costambar and an easy walk from BB. Once you exit BB turn to your right and take the road until it end and then turn right stay straight on the road you will come to Yenneys on your left. They have the best exchange rates in the area and the guy who exchanges the money speaks English. You can ask your driver to stop there before he takes you to BB when you arrive.

BB will also exchange your money but they have a terrible exchange rate and you are better off going to Yenneys.

Language:

They speak Spanish in the DR and at BB. The managers Cliff and Tim both speak English some of the staff speak English the momasons speak English and a few, very few, of the girls will speak English but the girls all know what you are there for and language will never be a problem when dealing with the girls.

Safety:

As stated above the area is very safe, I walked around during the day and walked to the restaurant and Yenneys at night by myself and felt perfectly safe.

The Beach:

The beach is just a stones through away from BB and is a pretty nice beach. Once you exit BB turn to your left take the road a few paces until it end turn to your rate and take the road a few paces to the beach. The beach is nice and many families visit the beach, I have been told there are freelancers on the beach but I never seen anyone I could say was a freelancer. There are families on the beach and some attractive girls but most if not all seem to be with their families.

Final Thoughts:

Black Beards is a great place for a beginning monger especially for a new monger to the Dominican Republic. It's a great way to get your feet wet in this life style and to make your introduction into the Dominican mongering scene. There is a standard structure so you know what to expect, if there are any issues you can take them to the momason.

While I was at BB I was struck by the tremendous problem of logistics. Many of the girls at BB are desperate for customers and I often felt sorry for them as they wanted nothing more than to have someone chose them so they could make some money. Right now there are maybe a thousand or more Horney dicks reading this report, at the same time there are a dozen or more very hot chicas sitting around the pool at BB who for around $40 would love to do nothing more than bounce up and down on top of those Horney dicks, logistics, connecting the Horney dicks to the desperate chicas?

Chris

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1471886]This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB)

[url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/[/url]

Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.

Airport:

The airport that you fly into when visiting Black Beards is Puerto Plata POP, the airport has had some recent renovations made to it and is pretty nice. There is a $10 visa you pay when you arrive then you go through immigration have your passport stamped turn to your right after that and collect your luggage, there are money exchanges in the luggage retrieval area but they offer a lousy rate and you should avoid exchanging your money there. Once you retrieve your luggage you go through customs which is a cursory check sometimes they will have you put your luggage through an x-ray sometime they don't even have you do that. After this you will go through the doors turn left and exit the building, there will be guys in white shirts offering to carry your luggage for you but you really don't need these guys it's only a few steps to exit. Once you exit the building the drivers will be standing to your right.

Transportation:

Black beards will arrange your airport pick up for you the cost is $45 one way, if there are more guests on the same flight the cost will be a little less. I believe if they are picking up two people the cost will be $30 each. You pay the taxi fee when you check into the hotel you do not pay the driver directly. There is a bit of a taxi mafia and not all free-lance taxi drivers at the airport will be willing to take you to BB. Once at BB you will have to use the local taxi drivers because of the taxi mafia and rates can be a little step in my opinion. BB will also arrange your return taxi back to the airport at the same price.

Costambar:

Black Beards is located in Costambar a gated community within Puerto Plata. It is an upper class neighborhood near the beach where more affluent Dominicans live and where foreigners will rent or buy summer homes. The area has some nice homes a few other nice resorts and a few nice restaurants. There are also a few vacation homes that are abandoned and not lived in. The area is safe, clean and beautiful

Black Beards:

Black Beards is a clean well run attractive resort, the rooms are well kept comfortable and beautiful, air-conditioning refrigerator in room safe hot and cold running water. A restaurant and bar which has good food at a reasonable price, a pool, pool table, Jacuzzi and other amenities, the resort is attractive comfortable and hospitable.

Chicas:

The chicas work in two shift from 11:am until 6. M and from 6. M until midnight there are anywhere from a dozen or so chicas per shift, there shifts vary so every day and every shift the combination of chicas is slightly different. Price is 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos for all night. 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi, however if you release you owe the full session price of 1600. Many of the chicas can be aggressive in trying to get you to session with them. Many will try to make an appointment with you for later that day or the next day. If you schedule an appointment with a chica you are required to keep it, if you don't keep the appointment you still owe the chica her fee. Often I would see chicas I wanted so I would arrange appointments with them only to wish I hadn't later as I would see other chicas that I wanted to do instead. There is a momason who manages the chicas for each shift, you can arrange an appointment with a chica through the momason or even ask her which chicas will do certain fetishes.

During the day time the chicas gather around the pool or the bar wearing bikinis at night they wear sexy nightclub clothes and around 9. M or so they gather upstairs at the disco in BB. Often there will be a theme night wear the girls will wear certain types of outfits.

There are no outside freelancers wondering into BB. All of the girls there are BB girls. None actually work through the hotel itself but work through the momason. You can bring in outside girls if you like but outside freelance girls are not allowed to wonder in on their own looking for customers.

In my opinion many of the chicas are very, very hot and I was pleased with the beauty I found at BB. I felt this on my first trip there and I still feel this today. You could close your eyes and point at the crowd of girl and you would be happy with the looks of the one you picked.

After midnight the chicas leave and the place becomes pretty deserted at that time.

Services:

All girls give BBBJ all girls allowed DATY all girls did light FK. The services are good from many of the girls, however, there is a certain amount of assembly line routineness from some of the girls and a certain amount of bad acting in the bedroom from some of the girls. Almost all of the girls are however very skilled in their craft, and many do in fact enjoy what they do.

I've never tried to do them more than once during the two hour session so I don't know if it's one and done or you can do them as much as you want during the time paid for it may depend upon the girl.

For all night most girls do you once at night and once in the morning but I have had girls I've done several times throughout the night, most girls leave around 8 or 9 in the morning when I've had them spend the night.

Freelancers:

On previous trips I was told by other guest there are freelancers available in the area especially on the beach. Personally I never seen anyone I could say was a definite freelancer especially on the beach. On this trip however I ran into two chicas who were definite free lancers one was not attractive enough to spark my interest and the other looked questionable in age so I took a pass on both of them. There are regular girls who live in the area and families who visit the beach many of these girls are attractive. Often when passing these girls I would glance their way and say Hola, none ever showed much interest or slowed down there walk, but I am 50ish and overweight. I have been with other younger apparently more appealing mongers who have gotten big smiles and even had the local girls approach them.

If there are freelancers in the area they are not available in large number or overly obvious. You can take them back to BB if they have identification but the BB girls really frown on this.

Prices:

As stated above price at BB are 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos all night and 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi but if you release you owe the full 1600 pesos. The freelancer was quoting me 1500 pesos. I always paid the BB girls after the session never before and you should always pay after no matter where in the world you are mongering. None ever asked me for tips or required extra for BBBJ this comes with the standard price.

Money:

Everything works in Pesos though you can pay the girl the equivalent in dollars if you do not have pesos. I have done this a few times in the past and the girls were fine with this.

The best place to exchange your money is at Yenneys super market it's a convenient store in Costambar and an easy walk from BB. Once you exit BB turn to your right and take the road until it end and then turn right stay straight on the road you will come to Yenneys on your left. They have the best exchange rates in the area and the guy who exchanges the money speaks English. You can ask your driver to stop there before he takes you to BB when you arrive.

BB will also exchange your money but they have a terrible exchange rate and you are better off going to Yenneys.

Language:

They speak Spanish in the DR and at BB. The managers Cliff and Tim both speak English some of the staff speak English the momasons speak English and a few, very few, of the girls will speak English but the girls all know what you are there for and language will never be a problem when dealing with the girls.

Safety:

As stated above the area is very safe, I walked around during the day and walked to the restaurant and Yenneys at night by myself and felt perfectly safe.

The Beach:

The beach is just a stones through away from BB and is a pretty nice beach. Once you exit BB turn to your left take the road a few paces until it end turn to your rate and take the road a few paces to the beach. The beach is nice and many families visit the beach, I have been told there are freelancers on the beach but I never seen anyone I could say was a freelancer. There are families on the beach and some attractive girls but most if not all seem to be with their families.

Final Thoughts:

Black Beards is a great place for a beginning monger especially for a new monger to the Dominican Republic. It's a great way to get your feet wet in this life style and to make your introduction into the Dominican mongering scene. There is a standard structure so you know what to expect, if there are any issues you can take them to the momason.

While I was at BB I was struck by the tremendous problem of logistics. Many of the girls at BB are desperate for customers and I often felt sorry for them as they wanted nothing more than to have someone chose them so they could make some money. Right now there are maybe a thousand or more Horney dicks reading this report, at the same time there are a dozen or more very hot chicas sitting around the pool at BB who for around $40 would love to do nothing more than bounce up and down on top of those Horney dicks, logistics, connecting the Horney dicks to the desperate chicas?

Chris[/QUOTE]Airport:

You may want to consider STI airport, comparing to POP it could sometimes save you hundreds of dollars on overpriced airline tickets, just add extra 90 bucks BOTH ways for taxi.

Transportation:

On the day of departure, ask around if anyone leaving for the same flight. And even if you are alone, the price is 1500 pesos, not 45$.

Services:

BBBJ is not exactly a standart, but if your personal hygiene is good you may expect it 99% of encounters.

Some chicas may want to leave earlier than 8 or 9, so if you are committing to TLN ask beforehand.

Freelancers:

I was approached by them a few times on my way to supermarket and on the beach, but BB chicas are a better choice.

Money:

Discuss the amount in $ if you are out of pesos BEFOREHAND, I used to have some unpleasant discussions with taxi driver about exchange rate, they tried to use 15-25% lower exchange rate, no problems with chicas, but it is better to agree beforehand.

Restaurants:

BB's restaurant is the best in Costambar. I guess I've tried all of them in the area and there were quite a few problems with food quality and stomach issues. The only other good one is Solo Mio which is 5 minutes walk from BB; the same good quality as BB, but choice of sea food is much better, plus decent pizza.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1471886]This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB)

[url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/[/url]

Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.

Many thanks, Chris. You are the consummate researcher! Were there any exceptionally busty beauties at BB? I am going there for the first time in Jan 2015.

Thanks for the newbie guide. I've always been curious about that place, but since I popped my DR cherry in Sosua, I may never go. Your pics are awesome!

[QUOTE=ReadyToGetOnIt;1474896]Thanks for the newbie guide. I've always been curious about that place, but since I popped my DR cherry in Sosua, I may never go. Your pics are awesome![/QUOTE]I like your selection Chris. Good report!

I'm just beginning to research this interesting island after having 4 Dominicanas on a recent trip in Europe.

This tour69 looks like an interesting place to spend a week.

Anybody have any experience with them?

[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;1476361]This tour69 looks like an interesting place to spend a week.[/QUOTE]You don't need no stinkin' tours or package deals. Most are a big rip-off and the rest are just over-priced. You are just paying parasites to do stuff for you that you can do cheaper for yourself. More important, you are locked into their program and if you don't like any aspect of it you are fucked.

If you are not up to finding your own chicas (too physically unfit, too socially inept, not a word of Spanish or French, or whatever) , then stay at Blackbeards or Field of Dreams. Both safe bets. Blackbeards will give you a bigger choice of chicas, though if you are only staying a week you wouldn't run out of options at Field of Dreams, and the latter is better located if you want to vary your stay with off-campus visits to Sosua and Puerto Plata.

I think you would like both places but the difference is, if you don't, you can move out and try somewhere else. You are not committed for your whole week.

If you [u]are[/u] up to finding your own chicas, you might try Sosua, either for the whole week or for the final three or four days after getting your feet wet at either of the two establishments I mentioned. You can get by in Sosua with nil Spanish if you hook up with experienced mongers to show your the ropes, but nowhere else in the DR.

Incidentally, I tried to look at your alleged 327 previous posts to get an idea of your tastes and experience before responding, but could only call up 4. Any idea why that is?

[QUOTE=Wanderer1000; 1476361]I'm just beginning to research this interesting island after having 4 Dominicanas on a recent trip in Europe.

This tour69 looks like an interesting place to spend a week.

Anybody have any experience with them?[/QUOTE]I apologize for Pooter's mean-spirited response. But he is essentially correct. You don't need a tour. You haven't been there yet, so its hard to imagine, but chicas are everywhere. Once you've been there, you'll understand why someone might think your question is odd. Its a main draw of the area. That's understood. Read up on BB, FOD, and Oxygen.

The only thing that a tour might help for is transport. Although its a controversial topic, I would recommend renting a car. Just be sure to get ALL the appropriate insurance. Otherwise, any organized tour sounds like a scam to me.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1471886]This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB)

[url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/[/url]

Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.

Final Thoughts:

Black Beards is a great place for a beginning monger especially for a new monger to the Dominican Republic. It's a great way to get your feet wet in this life style and to make your introduction into the Dominican mongering scene. There is a standard structure so you know what to expect, if there are any issues you can take them to the momason.

While I was at BB I was struck by the tremendous problem of logistics. Many of the girls at BB are desperate for customers and I often felt sorry for them as they wanted nothing more than to have someone chose them so they could make some money. Right now there are maybe a thousand or more Horney dicks reading this report, at the same time there are a dozen or more very hot chicas sitting around the pool at BB who for around $40 would love to do nothing more than bounce up and down on top of those Horney dicks, logistics, connecting the Horney dicks to the desperate chicas?

Chris[/QUOTE]This is a great report. I have been to BBs once but I have always wanted to go back especially with the Sosua changes.

The Rock

[QUOTE=Manny51;1479492]I apologize for Pooter's mean-spirited response.

Read up on BB, FOD, and Oxygen.[/QUOTE]Thanks for apologizing on my behalf, Manny, and so eloquently. Would you be interested in the position of my regular apologist? There would be plenty of work as I am often mean-spirited. Pay is not so good though.

But if one of your conditions is that you are allowed to include a plug for Oxygen in every post, then the deal is off. I cannot be associated with taking advantage of innocent newbies.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1479542]Thanks for apologizing on my behalf, Manny, and so eloquently. Would you be interested in the position of my regular apologist? There would be plenty of work as I am often mean-spirited. Pay is not so good though.

But if one of your conditions is that you are allowed to include a plug for Oxygen in every post, then the deal is off. I cannot be associated with taking advantage of innocent newbies.[/QUOTE]So I guess you've noticed that I like Oxygen. And no, I do not work for them, know the owner, or own any of its stock on the NASDAQ.

Yes it is expensive. But at least in the past, in regards to safety, GFE, and no cons, it was unmatched. And though pricey, it does have periodic "sales." I still think its reasonable as a once in a while splurge. Personally, I think that they need to lower the prices or it will eventually go out of business.

I understand how its out of some people's price range, but so are call girls in Moscow. I just don't understand why so many people hate on it.

Thanks Charles and Manny,

I probably should have RTFF more before I asked. I have spent a lot of time reading the posts in the last week, and I understand the wisdom of not getting locked in somewhere for more than a few days. I have been going to the FKK / Sauna Clubs of Germany a lot over the last five years, so I've gotten used to the lazier and more controlled environment. I traveled to Latin America a lot in the 90's, and I used to be a little more free in handling how I operate; even though I liked the termas in Rio a lot.

A regular day in Germany with a club, car, and hotel can easily average $300 a day. Even though a place like Oxygen is supposed to be 5 star and a 24 hour GFE with an additional girl for 2 hours for $629 per night, I'm not sure if I want a girl around me that much. I'd have to be lucky and have some serious chemistry the first day or two to view that money as well spent. But, I think it could be worth a 3 night stay just to experience the scene.

I see the value of BB and FOD with just getting a room and going a la carte. Especially as a newbie. It has just enough controlled environment, and I could choose ST or TLN depending on how I was feeling. One of the things that the Germany scene limits is the TLN or extended time periods. It can get quite expensive for any extended time if you have a chick you click with and just want to have a more relaxing time together. That's the one thing I don't like; the lack of flexibility for an experience. I think the DR offers more flexibility of experience, and more opportunities for the GFE, even though it lacks the variety of looks.

I guess I'm ready to get back to the Latinas for more of that loving feeling. Thanks for all your help.

[QUOTE=Wanderer1000; 1479591]Thanks Charles and Manny,

I probably should have RTFF more before I asked. I have spent a lot of time reading the posts in the last week, and I understand the wisdom of not getting locked in somewhere for more than a few days. I have been going to the FKK / Sauna Clubs of Germany a lot over the last five years, so I've gotten used to the lazier and more controlled environment. I traveled to Latin America a lot in the 90's, and I used to be a little more free in handling how I operate; even though I liked the termas in Rio a lot.

A regular day in Germany with a club, car, and hotel can easily average $300 a day. Even though a place like Oxygen is supposed to be 5 star and a 24 hour GFE with an additional girl for 2 hours for $629 per night, I'm not sure if I want a girl around me that much. I'd have to be lucky and have some serious chemistry the first day or two to view that money as well spent. But, I think it could be worth a 3 night stay just to experience the scene.

I see the value of BB and FOD with just getting a room and going a la carte. Especially as a newbie. It has just enough controlled environment, and I could choose ST or TLN depending on how I was feeling. One of the things that the Germany scene limits is the TLN or extended time periods. It can get quite expensive for any extended time if you have a chick you click with and just want to have a more relaxing time together. That's the one thing I don't like; the lack of flexibility for an experience. I think the DR offers more flexibility of experience, and more opportunities for the GFE, even though it lacks the variety of looks.

I guess I'm ready to get back to the Latinas for more of that loving feeling. Thanks for all your help.[/QUOTE]If you have a car, you can check out all these places, and post your opinion. You don't have to stay at Oxygen the whole time. In fact, if you drive yourself there, they will probably lower the price for you.

And BTW, it is NOT 5 star. 3.5 star is more accurate. It is not a place you go for high volume. It's where you go for GFE and peace of mind. That's what you are paying for. Even the occasional punter will tell you how that is getting harder and harder to come by these days, anywhere.

Has anyone been to Cristal's in Puerto Plata lately, what is the price for take out.

Thanks

They have a very bed rep for being very over priced. Few guys who are not blind drunk pay the price. The women and the drinks are very over priced.

[QUOTE=Coole Mr; 1481690]Has anyone been to Cristal's in Puerto Plata lately, what is the price for take out.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Coole Mr;1481690]Has anyone been to Cristal's in Puerto Plata lately, what is the price for take out.[/QUOTE]Was there a few nights ago (against my better judgment to humor a visiting friend). He was quoted 6000 for TLN. There may be a cheaper rate for quicker turn-round, but I don't think so.

My friend doesn't count the pesos like me, but that was a bit steep even for him so he took out a girl from Blackbeards at half the price instead and probably a nicer girl too. Anyway he liked her a lot.

There were a lot of chicas available in Cristal at around 11. 00. More than I have seen there for years. At that price I am not surprised there were few takers.

Another downside for me is that the music is all American club music (used to be largely local music) and played so loud it was impossible to hold a conversation, so we didn't even stick around to finish our (expensive) drinks.

If you are a high roller you might be interested in the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen). Rumor has it that it is even more expensive than Cristal. Has anyone been there lately?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1481701]If you are a high roller you might be interested in the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen). Rumor has it that it is even more expensive than Cristal. Has anyone been there lately?[/QUOTE]Is that spot owned or run by an Afro-American dude? [url]http://youtu.be/-cctqWJ9Y7k[/url]

[url]http://cocoanightclubandsportsbar.com/[/url]

A friend and I went in April of this year 2013. I think it was a Sunday night the place was dead.

It was about 11pm and only 1 other guy at the bar. We sat down and was swamp by about 20 girls most were doable.

There was a stage show and girls kept asking for drinks only stay 15 minutes. Pick a girl for take out and she spoke almost no enlish.

Took her to the bar and was told $150 US Dollars I guess they don't want there own money. We left alone the price was out of my range.

The door guy ask for tip for watching our car he said business in no so good.

Here a pic of girls who use hang out at the bar across from Cristal about 10 years ago. 500DR for the whole night thoses were the days.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1481705]Is that spot owned or run by an Afro-American dude?

[url]http://youtu.be/-cctqWJ9Y7k[/url]

[url]http://cocoanightclubandsportsbar.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I have no idea but if you look at the website it is obviously written by someone who cannot speak English but who thinks they can. That misplaced confidence is typically Dominican.

It always amazes me in this country that Dominicans can spend quite a lot of money on signage, catalogues, press releases, menus, etc, in English, but not ask a native English speaker to spend a minute or ten to look through them and weed out the most glaring mistakes. In most cases they could find ex-pats only too willing to do it gratis. So many Dominicans pay for these crap English courses and think they can speak English as a result. You only have to look at the text-books they use to see it is the blind leading the blind.

Now my progress in Spanish in the years I have been here is disgraceful, but at least I don't have any illusions about it, and on the few occasions I need write to something in Spanish I get a literate local to check it out.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1481701]If you are a high roller you might be interested in the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen). Rumor has it that it is even more expensive than Cristal. Has anyone been there lately?[/QUOTE]
By coincidence someone has just posted elsewhere they did a chica on-site there for US$80. That is about what Cristal used to charge for the same service (not sure if it still is). Twice as much as I would ever want to pay, but obviously some guys don't mind.

[QUOTE=Scotch;1481709]A friend and I went in April of this year 2013.
[/QUOTE]
I presume this is Cristal, not Cocoa Club?

[QUOTE=Scotch;1481709]Took her to the bar and was told $150 US Dollars I guess they don't want there own money.[/QUOTE]You can always pay in pesos everywhere, but US$150 is 6375 pesos so they make a bit more out of you. A lot of Americans think there is some advantage in paying in US dollars and don't change their money. Rarely a good idea in the DR.

[QUOTE=Scotch;1481709]Here a pic of girls who use hang out at the bar across from Cristal about 10 years ago. 500DR for the whole night thoses were the days.[/QUOTE]I just caught the tail-end of that scene before they flattened the area, but by my day the price had gone up to 1000 pesos and you had to weed through carefully to find a diamond in the rough. Far fewer haitianas around at that time. Puerto Plata was still a thriving red light town but within another two years it all died and the scene moved to Sosua. If they do really crack down in Sosua some of the trade might come back to Pto Pta (salida bars, I mean, not those roadside fuck-shacks).

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1481734]I have no idea but if you look at the website it is obviously written by someone who cannot speak English but who thinks they can.[/QUOTE]That definitely would not preclude him from being an America. Ebonics and slang aside, there are many Americans that are literally unintelligible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUTzivZNO8).

I saw the following on the FB page. David K Smith does not "sound" like a Dominican name.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1481824]I saw the following on the FB page. David K Smith does not "sound" like a Dominican name.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to contradict you. I know nothing about the place.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1481824]That definitely would not preclude him from being an America. Ebonics and slang aside, there are many Americans that are literally unintelligible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUTzivZNO8).[/QUOTE]I am English so I will diplomatically keep my views on that topic to myself.

You guys should have jobs editing newspapers or something. If you're coming from the USA you should be careful throwing that "dumb" label around. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

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So I was out there just a few weeks ago. And took an old English guy to Crystals. Just to humor him!

Crystals has had a "mini tart up" since our last visit 18 months ago.

No fire place on the stage any more, the mold is gone from the ceiling, but the music is no longer "Dominican".

The girls however. Looked less aggressive than previous visits.

There was one the peaked my interest, however. 6000 is still £100 English money or two girls from Blackbeards.

In the past. Our best girl has been from Crystals. A lovely Haitian girl who was our best experience ever. But I can't understand than in these difficult economic times why Crystals stays at 6000!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1481742]I just caught the tail-end of that scene before they flattened the area, but by my day the price had gone up to 1000 pesos and you had to weed through carefully to find a diamond in the rough. Far fewer haitianas around at that time. Puerto Plata was still a thriving red light town but within another two years it all died and the scene moved to Sosua. If they do really crack down in Sosua some of the trade might come back to Pto Pta (salida bars, I mean, not those roadside fuck-shacks).[/QUOTE]Long Beach was always pretty lively. Sosua was lively then too, but there were a lot less mongers in Sosua. You had Blackbeards and a couple of other Blackbeard type spots and stip clubs in Costambar. Those were the days!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1481734]I have no idea but if you look at the website it is obviously written by someone who cannot speak English but who thinks they can. That misplaced confidence is typically Dominican.

It always amazes me in this country that Dominicans can spend quite a lot of money on signage, catalogues, press releases, menus, etc, in English, but not ask a native English speaker to spend a minute or ten to look through them and weed out the most glaring mistakes. In most cases they could find ex-pats only too willing to do it gratis.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure of that. The writing on the Web site is pretentious to be sure, but this is because the person is trying to make it sound as if this knocking shop is some kind of sophisticated bordello where one might run into painters like Matisse and Gaugin drinking absinthe on their night off with a few of their models, but native speakers of English could easily be capable of such pomposity. Clearly whoever wrote the copy on the Web site lacked awareness of finer points of English like positioning of hyphens and uses a few words incorrectly or spelled wrongly, but I don't think it is true that any expat could set them straight. The average expat has no knowledge of copy writing or proofreading either.

Here's a quotation from the Web site:

"Come enjoy La Republica's famous Presidente beer, Brugal's rum or another selection off of extensive bar menu while feeling the sirene breezes flowing from the beautiful Atlantic ocean at our outside bar, or walk up the red carpet into the elegant club on the second floor and enjoy the bars inside. Also try one of exclusive specialty drinks that is sure to have your taste buds dancing as the best DJ in the caribbean DJ Anyelo keeps your feet moving on the dance floor."

This could be rewritten as:

"This club has indoor bars and an outdoor bar to accommodate smokers. Beer and mixed drinks are available. There is recorded music for dancing. The club is located near the docks in Puerto Plata. It is easy to find as any local taxi driver will bring you to receive a 500 peso gringo finder's fee from the club in addition to the fare that you pay. This fee will eventually be added to the cost of providing any ho(stess) you take out for your personal enjoyment."

I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.

QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1482020]Long Beach was always pretty lively. Sosua was lively then too, but there were a lot less mongers in Sosua. You had Blackbeards and a couple of other Blackbeard type spots and stip clubs in Costambar. Those were the days![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1482058]I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.[/QUOTE]Long beach was all free lancers, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. Ignorance is bliss.

I never mentioned long beach Mr pin head. Ignorance is the face you see in the mirror.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1482089]Long beach was all free lancers, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. Ignorance is bliss.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1482058]I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.

I went to BB and Field of dreams and they both seem to me to be for golfer's or that type in general people who don't want any kind of challenge just pay whatever the price is and don't worry until next month when the credit card bill come's. If any of you guy's reading have stayed at a A1 resort in the DR you know how you see every employee all the time and you always feel like they are wanting you to tip them. Well now think about staying where you have fucked all the employee's atleast 1 time how much do you feel like they will be wanting all the time every time you come out your door there they are

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1482612]

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1482058]I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.

I went to BB and Field of dreams and they both seem to me to be for golfer's or that type in general people who don't want any kind of challenge just pay whatever the price is and don't worry until next month when the credit card bill come's. If any of you guy's reading have stayed at a A1 resort in the DR you know how you see every employee all the time and you always feel like they are wanting you to tip them. Well now think about staying where you have fucked all the employee's atleast 1 time how much do you feel like they will be wanting all the time every time you come out your door there they are[/QUOTE]Riiightt.

Look, I understand that places like FOD and BB aren't for everyone. Some people just like the pickup scene better. That's fine.

But don't go too far in belittling people who like places like BB better. All the "tough guys" who talk about liking the bars better are the same ones who post reports complaining about this girl who gave crappy service, or that girl who took the money and ran.

And don't believe in the biggest self-delusional con of all: that you are actually picking them up. They are into you for the money. Period. If you don't believe me, explain to them how you won't be paying them at all. See how they react.

Better to just enjoy punting for what it is. Leave the tough talk at home.

Excellent post Manny. I couldn't agree more. Tired of these "super-mongers" talking shit about the casas. Dudes acting like getting laid in Sosua is some kind of accomplishment. You want a gold star cause you found one chica who will have sex with you for money on Pedro Climate? That's more engaging than doing the same at a resort? The hunt huh? What hunt? Mo-fo they are hunting you!

I love Sosua. In fact, I am here right now. Nevertheless, I will also be going to FOD for the second time in a few days too. I enjoy both for the the total value to me. It doesn't have to be an either / or. Next time these dudes start in with the whole "casas are for losers" bit just ask them if they're paying for your airfare, hotel stay, and the hoes you're fucking? That should teach them to keep their lips off your vacation. Dudes always got to find some shit to compete over even if the competition is your own money and how you choose to spend it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1460840]Puerto Plata is not overblessed with hotels, but Aparta-Hotel Lomar is probably the best for you. It is on the Malecon with ocean views and breezes, across the road from a beach, central to everything, and not far from La Sirena supermarket. Other possibility might be Portofino. There are some other hotels on the main highway or inland, like Sunshine Motel or Mountainview Hotel, but probably not as good as Lomar.[/QUOTE]Frannie, please do you have a link or contact info for Aparta-Hotel Lomar. Unable to locate it via a Google search. Bunch of sites crop up, but when you click they all take you elsewhere!

1. I am fairly new on these boards, and I do not belong to any other boards. My experience is all in 2013, and limited to 1 month each in Brazil and Peru.

2. I am planning to be in the Puerto Plata in November (for sure) for 3-4 weeks. I will be spending a few days in both BB and FOD. I will report my experience on both in Dec.

3. I am looking for chica friendly hotel / resort options in Puerto Plata and Cabarete in the $70-80 / night range, with good security. In Sosua, I think I will book Casa Valeria based on the reports here! I plan to stay no more than 4 nights at a single hotel, so I don't have chicas trying to come back! I have looked up Expedia, Travelocity, Trip Advisor, Hotels. Com, Booking. Com and other apartment renting sites (and I don't see any viable options for mne in the apartment category in Puerto Plata).

4. I have had decent success with BrazilCupid and over 90% of my fun was from Brazil Cupid. I am now over 50, but somehow I seem to be doing OK. I did not expect it.

5. I seem to be doing OK on finding friends in the DR thru LA Cupid in 10 days (about 25-30 quality contacts with cell numbers, and I have spoken with about 10) , I joined based on reports here. I have RTTF exhaustively, and I am aware that maybe 2/3 may not show, or change their minds. I never double book in a single day and I prefer to find the few with who I can spend many days even a week. I am also aware of the pitfalls of that approach, but it is what I prefer.

6. I plan to check out BB and FOD and keep Sosua as a back-up. I just prefer the quiet route, restaurants, cine, dancing, shoppinng etc. And yes, I do like shopping and buying chicas shoes, and clothes! And yes, in the end it probably adds up to more! I am not young anymore and like that approach! But who knows maybe BB, FOD and Sosua will change me! I have never experienced places like that! So, I am really looking forward to this trip. I am open to any and all suggestions, re anything and everything!

Thanks to all, in advance, for just reading my post! Any help would be much appreciated!

Haven 123

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1482742]

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1482612]Riiightt.

Look, I understand that places like FOD and BB aren't for everyone. Some people just like the pickup scene better. That's fine.

But don't go too far in belittling people who like places like BB better. All the "tough guys" who talk about liking the bars better are the same ones who post reports complaining about this girl who gave crappy service, or that girl who took the money and ran.

And don't believe in the biggest self-delusional con of all: that you are actually picking them up. They are into you for the money. Period. If you don't believe me, explain to them how you won't be paying them at all. See how they react.

Better to just enjoy punting for what it is. Leave the tough talk at home.[/QUOTE]1+

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1482777]Frannie, please do you have a link or contact info for Aparta-Hotel Lomar. Unable to locate it via a Google search. Bunch of sites crop up, but when you click they all take you elsewhere!

1. I am fairly new on these boards, and I do not belong to any other boards. My experience is all in 2013, and limited to 1 month each in Brazil and Peru.

2. I am planning to be in the Puerto Plata in November (for sure) for 3-4 weeks. I will be spending a few days in both BB and FOD. I will report my experience on both in Dec.

3. I am looking for chica friendly hotel / resort options in Puerto Plata and Cabarete in the $70-80 / night range, with good security. In Sosua, I think I will book Casa Valeria based on the reports here! I plan to stay no more than 4 nights at a single hotel, so I don't have chicas trying to come back! I have looked up Expedia, Travelocity, Trip Advisor, Hotels. Com, Booking. Com and other apartment renting sites (and I don't see any viable options for mne in the apartment category in Puerto Plata).

4. I have had decent success with BrazilCupid and over 90% of my fun was from Brazil Cupid. I am now over 50, but somehow I seem to be doing OK. I did not expect it.

5. I seem to be doing OK on finding friends in the DR thru LA Cupid in 10 days (about 25-30 quality contacts with cell numbers, and I have spoken with about 10) , I joined based on reports here. I have RTTF exhaustively, and I am aware that maybe 2/3 may not show, or change their minds. I never double book in a single day and I prefer to find the few with who I can spend many days even a week. I am also aware of the pitfalls of that approach, but it is what I prefer.

6. I plan to check out BB and FOD and keep Sosua as a back-up. I just prefer the quiet route, restaurants, cine, dancing, shoppinng etc. And yes, I do like shopping and buying chicas shoes, and clothes! And yes, in the end it probably adds up to more! I am not young anymore and like that approach! But who knows maybe BB, FOD and Sosua will change me! I have never experienced places like that! So, I am really looking forward to this trip. I am open to any and all suggestions, re anything and everything!

Thanks to all, in advance, for just reading my post! Any help would be much appreciated!

Haven 123[/QUOTE]I don't think Lomar has a dedicated Web site.

Aparta Hotel Lomar.

Av General Gregorio Luperóand 8, Puerto Plata.

(809) 320-8555.

But you can just show up and ask for a room. It is located opposite a beach on the Malecon, walking distance from La Sirena supermarket, that also has good cafeteria, cell phone shops, pharmacy, etc.

I have not stayed there, but a friend of mine did, and he said it was pretty OK.

You can rent an apartment at Puerto Plata Beach club on a daily basis. Not very expensive. Nice pool. Nice location and grounds with cooling sea breezes. On site restaurant is poor.

Casa Valeria is OK, but when I was there several years ago I found the rooms a bit dark and humid and generally oppressive. Pool is OK. Has onsite restaurant that is quite good.

In Sosua you might try Romanoff, Europa, Coco, Mary Rose, Voramar for reasonable priced apartment type accomodation. Europa charges if you bring in more than one girl.

Really, unless is it Superbowl day or something, you can just arrive and check out the places before you check in, so you don't end up in some place you don't like. I know it is a hassle when you are hot and tired and have just arrived, and maybe need to pay the taxi a bit extra to look at different places, but actually it would probably be a good investment.

Things to check are whether there is air conditioning and whether it really cools, or if no a/c are there decent ceiling fans, especially over the bed. Is the bathroom clean and presentable. Is there a wifi signal in the room (if this is something important to you), is there a safe for your money and documents? I would also check if the room gets direct sun in the morning or afternoon, as this can be uncomfortable. Shaded is better.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1482920]Aparta Hotel Lomar.

But you can just show up and ask for a room. It is located opposite a beach on the Malecon, walking distance from La Sirena supermarket, that also has good cafeteria, cell phone shops, pharmacy, etc.

I have not stayed there, but a friend of mine did, and he said it was pretty OK.

You can rent an apartment at Puerto Plata Beach club on a daily basis. Not very expensive. Nice pool. Nice location and grounds with cooling sea breezes. On site restaurant is poor.

Really, unless is it Superbowl day or something, you can just arrive and check out the places before you check in, so you don't end up in some place you don't like. I know it is a hassle when you are hot and tired and have just arrived, and maybe need to pay the taxi a bit extra to look at different places, but actually it would probably be a good investment.[/QUOTE]Good information from Frannie as ever.

I live four minutes walk from Lomar. I have met a few guys who have stayed there (including Brother P on this board) and none had any complaints. It is ideal if you have a non-pro girlfriend in Puerto Plata and want somewhere to take her back to that is chica friendly but not screaming "wh orehouse".

But I am not sure why anyone would otherwise choose to stay there.

The beach is just the other side of the road but I rarely see gringos walking on the beach and even fewer swimming there, because of cleanliness issues. And although La Sirena is a ten minute slow walk (and no problem now the weather is cooling) , for everywhere else you would need transport, either taxi or motoconcho. I ride motoconchos all the time. They are cheap and convenient, but many guys won't ride them because of safety concerns and I cannot blame them.

The problem with Lomar, and where I live, is that there are no bus or publico routes along the Malecon. This forces me to use more motos than I would otherwise want.

I would suggest Field of Dreams as an alternative for the Puerto Plata part of your stay. You would be more comfortable there than at Lomar and you would have gringo support and advice on hand. True it is located two miles outside the city, but apart from La Sirena you can reach everywhere else you want to go more cheaply, conveniently and safely than from Lomar, as FoD is on the publico and guagua routes and you would not have to use motos or taxis (unless you choose to do so).

If you stay at Field of Dreams before your Sosua leg, you could ride into Sosua for a dollar and spend the day walking around and checking out where you want to stay in Sosua. Everything in Sosua is within walking distance and you will get a much better idea of the hotel by visiting in person than from recommendations here (and everyone has their own favorites) plus you might get a good deal if business is slow. No problem finding a room unless it is an American Public Holiday or Superbowl. All the hotels have their upsides and downsides, otherwise all the guys would stay in the same (best) one. It depends on your needs. You might wish to avoid New Garden as it can get a bit "frat house" sometimes and you seem the quieter type.

Downside with Field of Dreams is if you want to take back a non-pro, as the stupid murals betray it as a who rehouse. But unless you have some serious advantages (nice rental car, good-looking, fluent Spanish, good Latin dancer) I don't fancy your chances of pulling a non-pro on a short trip.

If you do end up at Lomar, send me a PM and we can meet for a drink and chat on the Malecon.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1482949]Downside with Field of Dreams is if you want to take back a non-pro, as the stupid murals betray it as a who rehouse. But unless you have some serious advantages (nice rental car, good-looking, fluent Spanish, good Latin dancer) I don't fancy your chances of pulling a non-pro on a short trip.[/QUOTE]Not to mention the "Adults Only" sign outside on the highway, that might lead a few people to think that this was a retirement home for ancients who have disowned their grandchildren, but to most others says: "Here be naked women and the men who love them."

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1482742]

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1482612]Riiightt.

Look, I understand that places like FOD and BB aren't for everyone. Some people just like the pickup scene better. That's fine.

But don't go too far in belittling people who like places like BB better. All the "tough guys" who talk about liking the bars better are the same ones who post reports complaining about this girl who gave crappy service, or that girl who took the money and ran.

And don't believe in the biggest self-delusional con of all: that you are actually picking them up. They are into you for the money. Period. If you don't believe me, explain to them how you won't be paying them at all. See how they react.

Better to just enjoy punting for what it is. Leave the tough talk at home.[/QUOTE]Sorry Manny I was not thinking well. I never want to belittle anyone or come off as a tough guy. I have had a great time at both place's and had good experience with the sex so hell I should have not even posted that.

Thanks, Frannie for your suggestions. Much appreciated!

I will call Hotel Lomar and see if they can email me some pics.

I really need more chica friendly options in Puerto Plata. Just about 99% of the chicas from Puerto Plata or Santiago do not want to go to Sosua.

So, the chicas I am talking to on LA Cupid, Puerta Plata is where they want to be (vs. Sosua or Cabarete).

So, please can you think of any other options? How much is Hotel Lomar, BTW?

Thanks,

Haven 123

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1482920]I don't think Lomar has a dedicated Web site.

Aparta Hotel Lomar.

Av General Gregorio Luperóand 8, Puerto Plata.

(809) 320-8555.

But you can just show up and ask for a room. It is located opposite a beach on the Malecon, walking distance from La Sirena supermarket, that also has good cafeteria, cell phone shops, pharmacy, etc.

I have not stayed there, but a friend of mine did, and he said it was pretty OK.

You can rent an apartment at Puerto Plata Beach club on a daily basis. Not very expensive. Nice pool. Nice location and grounds with cooling sea breezes. On site restaurant is poor.

Casa Valeria is OK, but when I was there several years ago I found the rooms a bit dark and humid and generally oppressive. Pool is OK. Has onsite restaurant that is quite good.

In Sosua you might try Romanoff, Europa, Coco, Mary Rose, Voramar for reasonable priced apartment type accomodation. Europa charges if you bring in more than one girl.

Really, unless is it Superbowl day or something, you can just arrive and check out the places before you check in, so you don't end up in some place you don't like. I know it is a hassle when you are hot and tired and have just arrived, and maybe need to pay the taxi a bit extra to look at different places, but actually it would probably be a good investment.

Things to check are whether there is air conditioning and whether it really cools, or if no a / see are there decent ceiling fans, especially over the bed. Is the bathroom clean and presentable. Is there a wifi signal in the room (if this is something important to you) , is there a safe for your money and documents? I would also check if the room gets direct sun in the morning or afternoon, as this can be uncomfortable. Shaded is better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1483091]

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1482742]Sorry Manny I was not thinking well. I never want to belittle anyone or come off as a tough guy. I have had a great time at both place's and had good experience with the sex so hell I should have not even posted that.[/QUOTE]No worries!

[QUOTE=Haven123;1483100]I really need more chica friendly options in Puerto Plata. Just about 99% of the chicas from Puerto Plata or Santiago do not want to go to Sosua.[/QUOTE]I know it sounds surprising for a sizable town like Pto Pta, but there really are no decent hotels for gringos here apart from Field of Dreams. There are lots of reasonable hotels for middle-class Dominicans and travelling businessmen, but remember "middle-class" here does not mean the same as in North America or Europe. Your chicas may be comfortable in them but you won't be. And they will think you are a cheap-ass, not the high roller they are hoping to snare. Lomar is your best bet out of a poor selection. Frannie knows what he is talking about. At least it has a decent location and is used to the occasional gringo guest.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1483100]How much is Hotel Lomar, BTW?[/QUOTE]I will call in and ask if I get a few minutes free.

Your other option if you really want to please and impress a chica is to book into one of the AI hotels at Playa Dorada. However you would need to make sure your chica is a good one first and that may be difficult to ensure. I don't have a lot of confidence in your reliance on internet chicas. You do realise that 95% of them are full-time or part-time working girls? I would rather meet a chica face to face and spend a few hours in her company before committing to booking into a hotel with her.

I wish you luck, but I think you could be heading for some disappointments and wasted money.

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1483100]Just about 99% of the chicas from Puerto Plata or Santiago do not want to go to Sosua.

So, the chicas I am talking to on LA Cupid, Puerta Plata is where they want to be (vs. Sosua or Cabarete).[/QUOTE]They are bullshitting you.

I am not one of those guys who bang on about how women here prefer a strong man and like to be dominated. In most cases they are just trying to justify their own ignorant and misogynistic behaviour. I treat women with respect until they show that they don't deserve it.

But there are limits. Who will be paying for the hotel, the food, transport, entertainment, and by your own admission, gifts? If you let these wh_ores dictate where you are going to stay you might as well hand over your billfold and credit card because they will realize you are a pussy. If they don't want to stay in Sosua then to hell with them. It is very much a buyer's market now.

If they want to stay in Puerto Plata, it is because they think they will be staying in a (to them) luxurious holiday resort not some cheap Dominican hotel. A lot of them assume all gringos stay at Playa Dorada anyway. Now you could probably get a good deal for that as the Playa Dorada hotels are hurting badly. Walk round and it is like a ghost town. But I have heard too many sad stories about guys who booked into an AI with a chica and lived to regret it. In fact I spent some time talking to one last summer. The two girls he invited occupied his room and were living the high life while he crept about the site terrified to go back to his room and face another embarrassing scene or further demand for cash. I told him his best option was to bribe a couple of the security thugs to throw their asses out of the main gate but he was too timid.

I am not suggesting you are that weak, but never hand the initiative to the chicas and certainly not over an important and expensive matter like accommodation.

Another anecdote. I was on the beach at Sosua with friends talking to a newbie. He despised guys who used putas and said that he had met a "nice' girl on the internet and she was fucking him for free. All it cost apart from her food and drink was the US$100 he had given her for return transport from her home on the other side of the island. We told him that was four times what it cost, but there was more. When we finally saw them together we all recognised her as one of the regular Sosua putas who stayed here all the time. And of course when we added up all his outlay on her he could have two different chicas for ST and one for TLN each day and night of his stay.

One reason many of these chicas don't want to go to Sosua is that they would be immediately recognized and "outed" as fulltime putas.

That might also explain why they don't want to go to Cabarete. That is (by Dominican standards) a middle class resort with no reputation for prostitution. Any normal chica would be only to proud to spend a few days there and mix with a young and trendy set. The only reason not to go would, again, be fear of recognition by Sosua regulars spending a day there.

Thanks, Charles. Clearly, I don't know shit! Well, I guess I have some rethinking to do and reevaluate my whole plan!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1483252]They are bullshitting you.

I am not one of those guys who bang on about how women here prefer a strong man and like to be dominated. In most cases they are just trying to justify their own ignorant and misogynistic behaviour. I treat women with respect until they show that they don't deserve it.

But there are limits. Who will be paying for the hotel, the food, transport, entertainment, and by your own admission, gifts? If you let these wh_ores dictate where you are going to stay you might as well hand over your billfold and credit card because they will realize you are a pussy. If they don't want to stay in Sosua then to hell with them. It is very much a buyer's market now.

If they want to stay in Puerto Plata, it is because they think they will be staying in a (to them) luxurious holiday resort not some cheap Dominican hotel. A lot of them assume all gringos stay at Playa Dorada anyway. Now you could probably get a good deal for that as the Playa Dorada hotels are hurting badly. Walk round and it is like a ghost town. But I have heard too many sad stories about guys who booked into an AI with a chica and lived to regret it. In fact I spent some time talking to one last summer. The two girls he invited occupied his room and were living the high life while he crept about the site terrified to go back to his room and face another embarrassing scene or further demand for cash. I told him his best option was to bribe a couple of the security thugs to throw their asses out of the main gate but he was too timid.

I am not suggesting you are that weak, but never hand the initiative to the chicas and certainly not over an important and expensive matter like accommodation...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1483252]One reason many of these chicas don't want to go to Sosua is that they would be immediately recognized and "outed" as fulltime putas.

That might also explain why they don't want to go to Cabarete. That is (by Dominican standards) a middle class resort with no reputation for prostitution. Any normal chica would be only to proud to spend a few days there and mix with a young and trendy set. The only reason not to go would, again, be fear of recognition by Sosua regulars spending a day there.[/QUOTE]I think Charles has laid out a very good rationale of some behaving the way they do and so I would just recount my personal experience, the latest in mid-September.

1) I have stayed at Lomar multiple times and the room, on the top floor, I think the third, facing the sea is my favorite. There is a balcony and so you can stay outside. Indeed a couple of years back, on a stormy night, I was outside along with a woman, who was somewhat scandalized but thrilled by the novelty of trying it out in the open. I might have paid $40 worth in pesos for that room. Do not recall exactly. There is nothing fancy about the room but it is roomy and clean everything. Ah no safe but I have been to many places where there are no safes. The restaurant is basic for breakfast but I have had the guy sent out to get food from their restaurant called Portofino which lies further afield. I like the place and also thanks to the proximity of la sirena, laundry etc. Are easier. I also rent a car and so transportation is not an issue. The women who came there always left pleased.

2) I chose Pto Pta because I too was under the impression that Sosua has a bad image but this trip, I went there with a girl from La Vega. A Med student (well I did not quiz her on Grey's Anatomy!). I did the mountainous road across from Santiago and had booked Hotel Coco which had access to a private spot of beach, the only reason why I chose it. This hotel is run by a Canadian woman and is obviously nice and clean but I would not want to go there if I am changing women regularly. I paid $30 / night with A / C by sending emails and asking them to do better on price.

3) The private beach was really nice and there was only a small group in the water with a 3/4 kids. The woman, surprised me in many ways in the water. Actually first time in the DR in the water with a woman so perhaps others here already have much better experience. Oh, I had to buy a swimsuit for her at the entry of Pedro Clisante. A clothing store.

4) The best thing about Sosua are the restaurants. We had a great meal at one of the Italian restaurants. The meal was late which annoyed me (as I was hungry) but quality was excellent. Frannie knows which one for we had celebrated his birthday there once. We then headed towards the bars and sat down again at the Austrian place for dessert and coffee. It was wonderful. Finally, past the hullabaloo of the various bars, there is a cigar shop, close to Rocky's. The owner chose one for me, clipped it and helped me light it. I and the woman walked back to our car, at a leisurely pace, enjoying my cigar.

5) Next day, it was a Sunday, the woman left as she had school the day after. So we went back to the Austrian place for an excellent Wiener Schnitzel. The Polish waitress was very nice and efficient. After the meal, took the woman to the Caribe bus terminal to take her back to la Vega. Being free in the late afternoon, I went for a pedicure and manicure and met the woman later for a session in the car, on the way to her place in Puerto Plata. It was kind of weird doing it inside the car at 9 at night on the Sosua-Pto Pta main road, with other vehicles screaming by but I could not find a better / quieter spot.

6) This trip, I also had plans to spend a couple of days at one of the All-Inclusives in Pto pta and I am glad I did not. The woman who came to see me in Santiago from another town about an hour and half away was very nervous so we went to the movie and ate a meal but I did not sleep with her. Had I tried the Pto Pta resorts, the money and the time would have been wasted. The young woman left the day after, untouched and very much touched by that experience. This of course is not the first time that it has happened to me. Some have developed cold feet and the best option for me has always been to let it go. It pays back very well later.

To summarize, I think Sosua is a very good option, both hotel and food wise, even when one comes armed with women. And I will try it again.

I agree completely, to each his own method of enjoyment.

Such BS talk usually comes from inexperienced simpletons.

Newbie here. I don't know if this is the right place to ask for info. If it ain't, please correct me. I'm planning to go to PP end of January (a couple of days at BB and a couple at FOD). After reading a lot of posts, I understand that requests for services should be made with the mamasans. Are there some chicas at these places that will do bbbjtcws?

Thanks

Thanks Tempoecorto! Quite helpful! Re Lomar, how was the A / C, hot water, WIFI and security please? How exactly is security set up, since I think this is a spread out condo with mutiple buildings, maybe?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1483315]I think Charles has laid out a very good rationale of some behaving the way they do and so I would just recount my personal experience, the latest in mid-September.

1) I have stayed at Lomar multiple times and the room, on the top floor, I think the third, facing the sea is my favorite. There is a balcony and so you can stay outside. Indeed a couple of years back, on a stormy night, I was outside along with a woman, who was somewhat scandalized but thrilled by the novelty of trying it out in the open. I might have paid $40 worth in pesos for that room. Do not recall exactly. There is nothing fancy about the room but it is roomy and clean everything. Ah no safe but I have been to many places where there are no safes. The restaurant is basic for breakfast but I have had the guy sent out to get food from their restaurant called Portofino which lies further afield. I like the place and also thanks to the proximity of la sirena, laundry etc. Are easier. I also rent a car and so transportation is not an issue. The women who came there always left pleased.

To summarize, I think Sosua is a very good option, both hotel and food wise, even when one comes armed with women. And I will try it again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haven123;1483286]Thanks, Charles. Clearly, I don't know shit! Well, I guess I have some rethinking to do and reevaluate my whole plan![/QUOTE]Thanks. Don't let me "bully" you. From your posts it appears you have plenty of experience in other locations. I am just playing Devil's advocate. And I was exaggerating to make a point. If I have prompted a pause and rethink that is good, but in the end you have to follow your own instincts. Generally better to return home thinking "I shouldn't have done that" than "I wish I had done that" because at least the first way you have learned a lesson for next time.

Good post from Tempoecorto. He is obviously satisfied with Lomar otherwise he wouldn't keep returning there. But note that he rents a car. That overcomes my main objection that it is away from the transport routes.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1483286]Thanks, Charles. Clearly, I don't know shit! Well, I guess I have some rethinking to do and reevaluate my whole plan![/QUOTE]I would agree with Charles Pooter. If they are VERY respectable, then they or their family MIGHT consider Sosua a bit louche, but Cabarete? Definitely not. I agree that they are angling to go to an all-inclusive resort with unlimited drinks and a casino, not a "chica-friendly" commercial hotel in Puerto Plata.

If you are getting these chicas from Web sites like Dominican Cupid, Dominican Puta, or whatever they are called, then rest assured that these are not church-going girls who would be shocked at the sights of Sosua. If they say they don't want to go to Sosua or Cabarete, it is probably because they are known to every motoconcho driver, pimp, and barman in town, or they have previously been warned off by the cops.

If you want to meet these more "decent" girls, then you need to come over here and personally seduce them, which takes a bit more time and effort. It is not at all impossible, though, if that is what you really want.

On the other hand if you want hookers who are lookers, a lot of preliminary work is not needed. It is just a matter of fly and fuck.

Remember, you are thinking sex, but they are always thinking money or advancement. If they enjoy the sex that is an obvious bonus, but it is never the starting point for them. Never forget that.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1483315]4) The best thing about Sosua are the restaurants. We had a great meal at one of the Italian restaurants. The meal was late which annoyed me (as I was hungry) but quality was excellent. Frannie knows which one for we had celebrated his birthday there once.[/QUOTE]Your memory is better than mine. I remember celebrating my birthday about 10 years ago at Portofino Restaurant in Puerto Plata over pizza with half a dozen little children singing Happy Birthday in Spanish to me, and another time on the roof garden of the Perla de Sosua apartments in a power cut with music from a laptop and lighting from birthday cake candles, but I don't remember the one you mentioned!

It must have been at Elefante Rosso, the pink elephant, right there on Pedro Clissante, because that Italian guy who lives at Romanoff has friends there.

Yes, I think Sosua is a pretty good place for restaurants, especially if you come from somewhere like Florida, where all you can find is Chilis, Ruby Tuesdays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. At least most of the Sosua restaurants are run by their owners and present fresh food, not stuff pre-prepared and ladled out of food-service packs.

Hahaha, Frannie, fun comment about restaurants in Florida and what you think of culinary experiences of Floridians! Expect some interesting blow back my man! Good Luck with that, and I have never lived in Florida! I am laughing my tail off here!

I suppose British food is super tasty, old chap.

You are both funny and brave.

Haven 123

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1483678]Your memory is better than mine. I remember celebrating my birthday about 10 years ago at Portofino Restaurant in Puerto Plata over pizza with half a dozen little children singing Happy Birthday in Spanish to me, and another time on the roof garden of the Perla de Sosua apartments in a power cut with music from a laptop and lighting from birthday cake candles, but I don't remember the one you mentioned!

It must have been at Elefante Rosso, the pink elephant, right there on Pedro Clissante, because that Italian guy who lives at Romanoff has friends there.

Yes, I think Sosua is a pretty good place for restaurants, especially if you come from somewhere like Florida, where all you can find is Chilis, Ruby Tuesdays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. At least most of the Sosua restaurants are run by their owners and present fresh food, not stuff pre-prepared and ladled out of food-service packs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haven123;1483465]Thanks Tempoecorto! Quite helpful! Re Lomar, how was the A / C, hot water, WIFI and security please? How exactly is security set up, since I think this is a spread out condo with mutiple buildings, maybe?[/QUOTE]No! It is just one building facing the sea. The A / C was fine but I remember keeping the windows open up on the third floor and with the nice breeze, did not need A / C. Hot water was normal (I paid the women cleaning for extra towels) but not wifi. I often wound up coming down to the entry (and used to chat with a lovely Spaniard there who would get to know a woman friend of the woman I was there with) , which is where the tiny restaurant is and wifi was good there. There is no need for security. No body checks nothing so if you have a problem that is walking with you, that is entirely your problem and so make sure you vet her / them well.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g147290-d286810-Reviews-Aparta_Hotel_Lomar-Puerto_Plata_Puerto_Plata_Province_Dominican_Republic.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1483693]Hahaha, Frannie, fun comment about restaurants in Florida and what you think of culinary experiences of Floridians! Expect some interesting blow back my man! Good Luck with that, and I have never lived in Florida! I am luaghing my tail off here!

I suppose British food is super tasty, old chap.

You are both funny and brave.

Haven 123[/QUOTE]Not sure I totally get your point. Just saying that Sosua has quite a good selection of restaurants offering various cuisines and main dishes for less than $10 US, and excellent breakfasts for $5 US or less. At Cafe Tropical you can get a full fresh cooked lunch for only $5 US.

Florida is one of the jumping off points for flights to the DR, so a reasonable comparator. Having lived in Florida myself and still making occasional trips there, I know it is hard to find a good meal at a reasonable price when on the road there due to the prevalence of corporate restaurants.

It is about 12 years since I last visited the UK. The quality of restaurant and pub food there is decidedly mixed, but there seems to be widespread interest in improving quality as evidenced by the popularity of TV shows hosted by the likes of Gordon Ramsay or Jamie Oliver and the general emphasis on locally-sourced provisions, fresh ingredients, etc. If you Google recipes for common dishes, it is noticeable how often the first results shown will be from UK Web sites.

[QUOTE=JohnyC;1483439]Are there some chicas at these places that will do bbbjtcws?[/QUOTE]Probably, if they can figure out what the acronym means they will give it a try.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1483678]Your memory is better than mine. I remember celebrating my birthday about 10 years ago at Portofino Restaurant in Puerto Plata over pizza with half a dozen little children singing Happy Birthday in Spanish to me, and another time on the roof garden of the Perla de Sosua apartments in a power cut with music from a laptop and lighting from birthday cake candles, but I don't remember the one you mentioned!

It must have been at Elefante Rosso, the pink elephant, right there on Pedro Clissante, because that Italian guy who lives at Romanoff has friends there.

Yes, I think Sosua is a pretty good place for restaurants, especially if you come from somewhere like Florida, where all you can find is Chilis, Ruby Tuesdays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. At least most of the Sosua restaurants are run by their owners and present fresh food, not stuff pre-prepared and ladled out of food-service packs.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is the restaurant and you, I and one of the two women (forget her name) from Romanoff was with us. 2011. I really abhor the re-heated food that you speak of, one reason why I found Sosua excellent but it is also the variety within one block. There are now two Italian restaurants on the main street (I met the other restaurant owner sipping my genuine cappucino at Bologna) , the Austrian, the German, the Brit. And given that they are all run by folks from the old country, the food really tastes genuine and superb. On that note, next to Hotel Coco, there is a place that serves roasted chicken and other stuff. The owner there too is an Italian. Alberto, has been living in the DR for 30 odd years. So overall, Sosua is a place for the epicureans, including those that follow Bacchus and of course, Venus!

[QUOTE=Haven123;1483100]How much is Hotel Lomar, BTW?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Haven123;1483465]Re Lomar, how was the A / C, hot water, WIFI and security please? How exactly is security set up, since I think this is a spread out condo with mutiple buildings, maybe?[/QUOTE]I have just trudged all the way to the Lomar to get some of these questions answered. A sick, elderly man toils through the blazing afternoon sun in the service of a fellow monger, shaving at least a week off his lifespan, only to return to his laptop and find smartass insinuations about British food. Fuckin' Americans! I don't know why I bother.

Room with double bed 1400 pesos (US$33) per night. No reduction for less than a week. Single room 1100 pesos in case she wants to book in her chulo as well. Tempoecorto's favourite room up top with sea view also 1400 in case you want to replicate his perverted activities.

Aircon in all rooms, no extra. Hot water 24 hours. Shower and inodoro in all rooms. TV in all rooms. Wifi in lobby only, not in rooms. No safes in rooms but you can use the manager's safe in his office.

This being the DR you can probably insert "allegedly" or "on a good day" into some of these answers.

They confirm Tempoecorto's hint that it is under the same management as Portofino. I have stayed at Portofino and it was only barely acceptable. I hope and believe this place is a bit better, but don't expect too much for this price, especially as you are paying a premium for the location on the Malecon.

The receptionist (Elaine) is classy, but probably the owner's girlfriend.

809 320 8555.

By the way, there is no such thing as "British" food, except in the sense of convenience food and chain restaurants which serve the same crap all over the "civilised" world.

There is Scottish food (exclusively porridge and haggis).

There is Irish food (exclusively potatoes, and mutton stew once a week if anyone in the family is working).

There is Welsh food (exclusively Welsh rarebit and leek soup) although most Welsh people seem to live off French frieds and packet chips. They are the only nationality who are more overweight and unfit than Americans according to recent surveys.

Then there is English food, which is enormously varied according to the region and ethnicity of the cooks, but has improved massively starting in the 1960s and the best of which is cutting edge as witnessed by the popularity of English culinary TV programs abroad and the number of award-winning chefs and restaurants.

May you choke on your next grease-sodden, carcinogenic additive permeated American cowburger!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1483731]Probably, if they can figure out what the acronym means they will give it a try.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I am also wondering what does it stand for?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1483731]Probably, if they can figure out what the acronym means they will give it a try.[/QUOTE]BareBack Blow Job To Completion With Swallow.

Where have you been all your life, Frannie? A monastery? (On second thoughts they may be familiar with this acronym in many monasteries too, unless they say it in Latin).

[QUOTE=JohnyC; 1483439]Are there some chicas at these places that will do bbbjtcws?

Thanks[/QUOTE]You were in good shape until the last two letters Johny, that might be tough to find. I have stayed at BB's a few times and FOD many times and have found BBJTC is easy to find but WS only once. I am sure the mamasan at BB's will hook you up with a girl that will do it, FOD doesn't have a mamasan per se, one of the owners Pedro is in charge of the girls pretty much, he might get a chuckle if you ask him. I think his daughter is supposed to help out with the girls but I never see her do a damn thing other than sit around. Niko and Jamie are two cool dudes, I would ask them, both tend bar there but Jamie is also part owner, they would be the guys to ask as they relate to the girls more than Pedro does, he's too busy.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1483795]FOD doesn't have a mamasan per se.[/QUOTE]What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1483822]What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?[/QUOTE]I saw her come through looking for massage clients on my trip in June and again in September but that was it.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1483822]What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?[/QUOTE]She must be well into her 40's by now. I fucked her in a massage parlour in Sosua several years ago, but didn't think she was all that good at massage. Actually she was on top, so perhaps I should say she fucked me. Pleasant enough lady, but haven't seen her for a few years now.

I am Fluent in Spanish and I am from Panama so I do not have much of an accent. I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. I am looking for some thing safe and reasonable. Please help any suggestions or websites. I have tried craigslist, but there is nothing like someone who has been living there.

Please help!

[QUOTE=Tarriqq;1483836]I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. Please help![/QUOTE]Here is some help:

Post in the Santiago section, not the Puerto Plata one!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1483822]What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?[/QUOTE]Maria is at FOD and does massage only for $20 for an hour. I had a couple massages from her mid-Sept at FOD and they were pretty good.

Thanks Mani, very helpful.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1483795]You were in good shape until the last two letters Johny, that might be tough to find. I have stayed at BB's a few times and FOD many times and have found BBJTC is easy to find but WS only once. I am sure the mamasan at BB's will hook you up with a girl that will do it, FOD doesn't have a mamasan per se, one of the owners Pedro is in charge of the girls pretty much, he might get a chuckle if you ask him. I think his daughter is supposed to help out with the girls but I never see her do a damn thing other than sit around. Niko and Jamie are two cool dudes, I would ask them, both tend bar there but Jamie is also part owner, they would be the guys to ask as they relate to the girls more than Pedro does, he's too busy.[/QUOTE]

Charles. 1. Thanks for everything 2. You are too frickin funny! I am not your typical American, having spent a good 20 years, living out a suitcase, running around the globe for work. So, I was just in the mood for some playful fun! So, please take it in that context and spirit. I do like Brits, okay, English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish with the last two being a hoot in my life experiences. And, here I am speaking about blokes, professional compadres, hanging out a pub etc.

Thanks so much for all your work, if I had only known no Wifi in the rooms, I would have stopped right there. So, again, my apologies. And I owe you one for that. I can't do much about having shaved a week off your life, but maybe you can do some TM or something and get it back! Haha!

Anyway, I love Tex Mex, Italian, Thai, BBQ, Burgers and the typical junk fare. And a good breakfast! So, I've always had good breakfasts in the UK, FWIW! Haha, I can see a missive or missile headed my way, pronto!

Anyway, cheers old chap! Thanks for everything! Have a Guiness or whatever the options are in POP on me.

Haven 123

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1483773]I have just trudged all the way to the Lomar to get some of these questions answered. A sick, elderly man toils through the blazing afternoon sun in the service of a fellow monger, shaving at least a week off his lifespan, only to return to his laptop and find smartass insinuations about British food. Fuckin' Americans! I don't know why I bother.

Room with double bed 1400 pesos (US$33) per night. No reduction for less than a week. Single room 1100 pesos in case she wants to book in her chulo as well. Tempoecorto's favourite room up top with sea view also 1400 in case you want to replicate his perverted activities.

Aircon in all rooms, no extra. Hot water 24 hours. Shower and inodoro in all rooms. TV in all rooms. Wifi in lobby only, not in rooms. No safes in rooms but you can use the manager's safe in his office.

This being the DR you can probably insert "allegedly" or "on a good day" into some of these answers.

They confirm Tempoecorto's hint that it is under the same management as Portofino. I have stayed at Portofino and it was only barely acceptable. I hope and believe this place is a bit better, but don't expect too much for this price, especially as you are paying a premium for the location on the Malecon.

The receptionist (Elaine) is classy, but probably the owner's girlfriend.

809 320 8555.

By the way, there is no such thing as "British" food, except in the sense of convenience food and chain restaurants which serve the same crap all over the "civilised" world.

There is Scottish food (exclusively porridge and haggis)...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1483783]BareBack Blow Job To Completion With Swallow.

Where have you been all your life, Frannie? A monastery? (On second thoughts they may be familiar with this acronym in many monasteries too, unless they say it in Latin).[/QUOTE]I thought that was CIM. In my monastery we only used the Latin names such as fellatio ad nauseam.

[QUOTE=Tarriqq;1483836]I am Fluent in Spanish and I am from Panama so I do not have much of an accent. I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. I am looking for some thing safe and reasonable. Please help any suggestions or websites. I have tried craigslist, but there is nothing like someone who has been living there. Please help![/QUOTE]

You might try doing some reading on DR1. Check the santiago section. I'm sure Youll get some helpful info from expats.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1484007]You might try doing some reading on DR1. Check the santiago section. I'm sure Youll get some helpful info from expats.[/QUOTE]Why Santiago? Lots of pussy yes, but pussy is everywhere, I live in Puerto Plata, have an apartment on the malecon, in sight of the beaches, and this is paradise. Then there is Sosua, Cabarette, and other towns along the north coast. Much more pleasant up north. Take my word for it.

Super funny! Wonder which monastery that was. Pray tell us?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1483992]I thought that was CIM. In my monastery we only used the Latin names such as fellatio ad nauseam.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haven123;1484122]That's great to know about FOD being near the Playa Doradas resort.[/QUOTE]

The service road through the Playa Dorada complex is horseshoe shaped. One leg runs from the main (guests) entrance at the highway then curves right past the shopping mall and activities centre. It keeps going, curves right again and rejoins the highway at the (employees) Services Entrance. Field of Dreams is right opposite that Services Entrance on the other side of the main road and down a 100 metre drive.

How far you have to walk depends on where your hotel is located on the complex, anywhere from 30 minutes to 10 minutes. But don't try to get to Field of Dreams via the main guests gate or you will have a hot and dusty half mile walk down an unshaded highway. The way via the Services Entrance is very pleasant and shaded. And safer than the main road.

The guy who founded Field of Dreams was the godfather of mongering on the North Coast. He built it hoping to cash in on guys sneaking away from their wives and families at Playa Dorada for a quickie, and also affluent golfing guys staying at the hotels. He did get some of that trade but nowhere near enough to run at a decent profit. Most of his custom came via the monger boards like this one and most mongers are careful spenders.

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1483891]Charles. 1. Thanks for everything 2. You are too frickin funny! I am not your typical American, having spent a good 20 years, living out a suitcase, running around the globe for work. So, I was just in the mood for some playful fun! So, please take it in that context and spirit. I do like Brits, okay, English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish with the last two being a hoot in my life experiences. And, here I am speaking about blokes, professional compadres, hanging out a pub etc.

Thanks so much for all your work, if I had only known no Wifi in the rooms, I would have stopped right there. So, again, my apologies. And I owe you one for that. I can't do much about having shaved a week off your life, but maybe you can do some TM or something and get it back! Haha!

Anyway, I love Tex Mex, Italian, Thai, BBQ, Burgers and the typical junk fare. And a good breakfast! So, I've always had good breakfasts in the UK, FWIW! Haha, I can see a missive or missile headed my way, pronto!

Anyway, cheers old chap! Thanks for everything! Have a Guiness or whatever the options are in POP on me.

Haven 123[/QUOTE]Well well well. 2. You just wait till you meet him! He is even funnier then!

As Charles is a vegetarian. He can't help you on "proper" food too much!

Tex Mex. In Cab there is a lovely Tex Mex place called Gorditos. Just as you enter Cab on the left at a plaza called "Ocean Dream". Great food at reasonable value. Possibly one of the busiest restaurants in the area.

For Italian. In Sosua. There is a great Italian on PC. Can't remember the name. But its just to the left of the Britiannia Bar.

Again. Great food, great owner and at great value!

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1484166]Why Santiago?[/QUOTE]I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that he was going to Santiago for work. If not, I'm baffled too.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1484007]You might try doing some reading on DR1. Check the Santiago section. I'm sure you'll get some helpful info from expats.[/QUOTE]
Good advice, but be discreet about the sex aspect.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1484247]Super funny! Wonder which monastery that was. Pray tell us?[/QUOTE]I can't reveal the name, but it was a Dominican order. Our favorite acronym was WWJD (and the answer was usually "grin and bear it" or "turn the other cheek".)

Just got home from my first stay at BBs. Totally what I was hoping for and could not be more satisfied.

The women were all very pleasant, the youngest at 19 and the oldest at 26.

I'm not the sexual athlete that some are, but was able to spend all of my budget and then some. Prices are as quoted elsewhere: 1,600 ST and 3,000 TLN. 500 for a half hour in the Jacuzzi. Note that that is always per woman. So if you are like some who always had two women, you can double the burn rate. Food prices in the hotel are reasonable, the food was very agreeable for me. My room was always clean, everything worked, the wifi was superior to many places I've stayed.

If anyone has the slightest urge to experience the harem style life, I highly recommend you get yourself over to BBs. I haven't stayed at any of the other AI type resorts, so I can't give a comparison between them and BBs. But I have visited 72 countries with the express goal of trying P4P in each country, and honestly, this has to be my favorite so far. The atmosphere is just so friendly, you don't have to worry one second about getting robbed or cheated, etc. Okay, it's too damn easy for some guys, and probably too expensive for others, but if you are on a daily budget of about $200 for hotel, food, and women, you could essential live there the rest of your life.

I don't drink much, so if you want to add a lot of alcohol that is going to cost you more. And if you want two women twice or three times a day, I hope you can do the math.

BTW, there were several guys who did exactly that and it was great fun to be around them.

I have visited more than several of the FKKs in Germany, and the only possible way that BBs experience could be "improved" for me would be to have the women running around naked most of the time. But that is too much to think about in a catholic country. Besides, they do change their costumes at least once a day, and that makes it fun in a different way.

My next trip is to Santo Domingo in November, but I am having a hard time justifying denying myself another go at BBs. Okay I'm an official fanboy so you don't have to flame me, I know I'm guilty but I don't care. I drank the coolaid.

[QUOTE=Tarriqq;1483836]I am Fluent in Spanish and I am from Panama so I do not have much of an accent. I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. I am looking for some thing safe and reasonable. Please help any suggestions or websites. I have tried craigslist, but there is nothing like someone who has been living there. Please help![/QUOTE]Try for example:

[url]www.SuperCasas.com.do
[/url]

Buena suerte

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo; 1484947]Just got home from my first stay at BBs. Totally what I was hoping for and could not be more satisfied.

But I have visited 72 countries with the express goal of trying P4P in each country, and honestly, this has to be my favorite so far. T.

I have visited more than several of the FKKs in Germany, and the only possible way that BBs experience could be "improved" for me would be to have the women running around naked most of the time.[/QUOTE]You shitting us. 72 countries trying it out? I am green with envy. LOL.

I enjoy FKKs quite a bit. And I do think that some of their experiences are unique that cannot be had in the DR (at least not with the regular women. Cannot speak of professionals in Sosua). I had sex inside kino with whole bunch of others present watching movie. One Russian woman was too shy to do that. She wanted me to go to a private place. A Romanian woman who spoke fluent Italian with me gave me a great fellatio in some other fkk. Also, in my personal experience the visitor quality there is very good so it was nice chatting with people from all over. In any case, I cannot imagine having naked women running around can be that stimulating after the first blush. I have been to nudist beaches. And they are. Meh! I would much rather undress a woman in burkha. That would be erotic. Hahaha.

I am sure I am going to regret this. But what the heck?

What the heck is WWJD? Could you add it to the list of abbreviations in the forum please?

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1484482]I can't reveal the name, but it was a Dominican order. Our favorite acronym was WWJD (and the answer was usually "grin and bear it" or "turn the other cheek".)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1485091]I am sure I am going to regret this. But what the heck?

What the heck is WWJD? Could you add it to the list of abbreviations in the forum please?[/QUOTE]Obviously not on your radar. Turning the other cheek is a well known phrase from the King James Bible, and the acronym? What would Jesus do?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1485114]Obviously not on your radar. Turning the other cheek is a well known phrase from the King James Bible, and the acronym? What would Jesus do?[/QUOTE]Not to be a pedant, but I did not think WWJD or the other unpronounce-able stuff mentioned earlier, fall under the category of "acronym". Those are mere abbreviations, I was told! LOL.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1485076]I enjoy FKKs quite a bit. And I do think that some of their experiences are unique that cannot be had in the DR (at least not with the regular women. Cannot speak of professionals in Sosua). I had sex inside kino with whole bunch of others present watching movie. One Russian woman was too shy to do that. She wanted me to go to a private place. A Romanian woman who spoke fluent Italian with me gave me a great fellatio in some other fkk. Also, in my personal experience the visitor quality there is very good so it was nice chatting with people from all over. In any case, I cannot imagine having naked women running around can be that stimulating after the first blush. I have been to nudist beaches. And they are. Meh! I would much rather undress a woman in burkha. That would be erotic. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I'm not that kinky but there sure are some kinky Germans! LOL I'm only half German so while I can watch others, it just doesn't seem to work for me to be watched. But there is something totally exciting about getting two women who are totally naked stroking your cock in the public areas. But for me, only in the darker areas, not out in the broad daylight.

The idea of having all of those sweet Dominicanans walking around with only a hat and high heels on is a great mental picture though.

Thanks. Familiar with both. Alas my brain cells' synapses did not make the connection in this context.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1485114]Obviously not on your radar. Turning the other cheek is a well known phrase from the King James Bible, and the acronym? What would Jesus do?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo; 1485167]I'm not that kinky but there sure are some kinky Germans! LOL I'm only half German so while I can watch others, it just doesn't seem to work for me to be watched. But there is something totally exciting about getting two women who are totally naked stroking your cock in the public areas. But for me, only in the darker areas, not out in the broad daylight.

The idea of having all of those sweet Dominicanans walking around with only a hat and high heels on is a great mental picture though.[/QUOTE]When I was younger, I had no problem participating in group sex, but now that I am older. 58, I seem to have become a bit shy, I wonder, why is that?

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo; 1485167]I'm not that kinky but there sure are some kinky Germans! LOL

The idea of having all of those sweet Dominicanans walking around with only a hat and high heels on is a great mental picture though.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I find Germany to be a particulary "live and let live" place which I really appreciate. Have never been to Blackbeard or as you had said a "harem" but I guess I see your point of hat and high heels. LOL. Seriously though, I would like to get close to a burkha clad. In the burkha land. No idea how though. Dubai just does not cut it.

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo; 1484947]Just got home from my first stay at BBs. Totally what I was hoping for and could not be more satisfied.

The women were all very pleasant, the youngest at 19 and the oldest at 26.

I have visited more than several of the FKKs in Germany, and the only possible way that BBs experience could be "improved" for me would be to have the women running around naked most of the time. But that is too much to think about in a catholic country. Besides, they do change their costumes at least once a day, and that makes it fun in a different way.

My next trip is to Santo Domingo in November, but I am having a hard time justifying denying myself another go at BBs. Okay I'm an official fanboy so you don't have to flame me, I know I'm guilty but I don't care. I drank the coolaid.[/QUOTE]If I could ask, what were your favorite countries? In terms of P4P, and also overall?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1485164]Not to be a pedant, but I did not think WWJD or the other unpronounce-able stuff mentioned earlier, fall under the category of "acronym". Those are mere abbreviations, I was told! LOL.[/QUOTE]You were told wrongly. They are indeed acronyms. A combination of initial letters combined into one new "word" or letter-group to form the name of something (usually a new entity that hasn't had a name before). They do not have to form an easily "pronounceable" word like "NATO" or "DATY"."WWJD" qualifies too.

Abbreviations are words with one or more letters lopped off the end. Where more than one word is involved they should retain the word spaces between otherwise they would merge with acronyms.

Words shortened by removing one or more letters from the middle are not abbreviations. They are contractions and should not have a full point at the end, thus:

Road = "Rd"

but

Avenue = "Ave."

"St" for "Street" is a controversial one. Is it an abbreviation or a contraction? Duels have been fought over that question.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1485407]If I could ask, what were your favorite countries? In terms of P4P, and also overall?

Thanks![/QUOTE]First off. Although my goal was always to find P4P, I only succeeded in about half of my visits. It's hard to get a professional woman in a place like San Marino, for example. Having said that, my top destination has been Peru for about five years. Peru is a big country (almost four times the size of California just to give you a comparison) and has a wide range of climates, terrain, and different types of people. The dollar isn't what it was, but it still goes a good distance. The food is totally great if like me you like fresh fruits. The people are usually pretty happy, and are consistently friendly except for the occasional jerk.

The women of Peru range from indigenous Amazon to Andean mountain to a (in my eye) very distinctive mix of all the above with the Spanish and occasional Asian influence. They don't suit a lot of guys, especially once they start getting about 40 years old because they kind of turn into chunks if they don't really watch it. But in the cities there are some stunning beauties. I've been all over Peru, to a lot of places that never see gringos. That's where it is most interesting for me.

Spain is my second favorite, and I have visited there four times for extended trips. The country, like Peru, has a tremendous variety of places, and the people while initially reserved, will warm up to you quickly if you make the attempt. The food in Spain is also pretty darn good, and prices are generally more reasonable than in northern Europe or even Italy. The professional scene in Spain is quite relaxed, and I have repeated with women several times in different cities with great results. I guess it's because of my growing ability to speak Spanish that these countries are my favorites.

I really love the Latin American destinations. I've been successful in every country that speaks Spanish in South and Central America, including two trips to Rio. But although that was a great scene, it was just too dangerous to really feel comfortable so I haven't been back for about five years.

After that, I would say maybe Germany (because of the FKKs). The problem for me in Germany is that often times the professional women are very mechanical. And I found myself generally gravitating to the Latinas working there instead of the European women. I also really enjoyed Warsaw. There you can actually find Polish women in the casas, so it is more authentic.

I have never been to Asia, but I want to go. I read the reports and try to get it together to go, but then I think about how much fun it is to be able to converse with the Spanish speaking women, and think it would be too much work for this old guy to communicate, so I just book another trip to visit latinas. Right now I'm really enjoying the DR. I came to the DR in 2006 or 7 (Santiago and Sosua) , and enjoyed it. But at the time I was not repeating countries, trying to widen my horizons. I am comparing the DR to Peru with the intention of making a fairly big commitment (as in relocating) to one of these countries maybe next year.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1485468]Duels have been fought over that question.[/QUOTE]Geez I hope no one got hurt.

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo;1485556]First off. Although my goal was always to find P4P, I only succeeded in about half of my visits. It's hard to get a professional woman in a place like San Marino, for example. Having said that, my top destination has been Peru for about five years.[/QUOTE]Hello Lupo Solitario, enjoyed reading your reflections. Peru will have to enter my plan after reading your notes. I agree that Spain and Germany are good locations for p4p. The latter to me primarily because of the laissez-faire attitude. Italy used to be ok (P4p) in small towns some twenty years back when I lived there. Would never touch the big city clubs with $300 champagne stupidities.

I have lived and traveled extensively in Asia / SE Asia. My favorite was Indonesia but taking cue from your thoughts, I think, I am enjoying the Latina thing much more. Language is a strong and primary incentive, as in your case. Barring Singapore, in Asia, you rarely can get women to speak in intelligible English. And understandably (my Philippines experience, not being connected to US Defense is limited) and just like you, being able to chat with people at large, in a Spanish speaking country has contributed enormously to the enjoyment. The physiognomy is second. Asian women are often petite and I love women with large breasts. Finally, a friendlier attitude of women to old gizzards like me, unthinkable in most first world places, lamentably and so in Latin locations, it is indeed feasible to minimize p4p experience which adds substantially to my enjoyment.

P. S. Funny to read about San Marino (as an independent state which it is) and women. One has much better chances on the beaches of Rimini / Riccione and I am sure you knew it.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1485468]You were told wrongly. They are indeed acronyms. A combination of initial letters combined into one new "word" or letter-group to form the name of something (usually a new entity that hasn't had a name before). They do not have to form an easily "pronounceable" word like "NATO" or "DATY"."WWJD" qualifies too.

"St" for "Street" is a controversial one. Is it an abbreviation or a contraction? Duels have been fought over that question.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I was under the impression that only when you can form an easily pronounce-able word, would it be called an acronym as in TIP (to insure promptness) or LASER (Light amplified by stimulated emission of radiation). The rest as in IEEE or in WWJD, are abbreviations. I stand corrected.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1485657]Geez I hope no one got hurt.[/QUOTE]One grammarian was wounded in the semi-colon.

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo;1485556]. my top destination has been Peru for about five years.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post. If I knew then what I know now, I would have emigrated to Peru or maybe Ecuador, rather than the DR.

Not too many haitianas there, though!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1485773]Thanks for your post. If I knew then what I know now, I would have emigrated to Peru or maybe Ecuador, rather than the DR.

Not too many haitianas there, though![/QUOTE]Hi Charles, where in Peru? Lima? And why? Thank you.

Radpoker

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1485773]Thanks for your post. If I knew then what I know now, I would have emigrated to Peru or maybe Ecuador, rather than the DR.

Not too many haitianas there, though![/QUOTE]You would choose Peru over the DR knowing what you know now?

I was thinking that being a white guy in the DR would be my biggest issue. I mean I stand out in Peru too, but nothing like I do in the DR. It makes me nervous about when I get too old to defend myself and being such an obvious gringo. No matter if I was in the country for ten years, I just feel like I would be too obviously an extranjero.

In Peru there are areas where my complexion is not that far from the locals' so I feel like with the proper attire I would gradually almost fit in.

But I too sure do love the women in the DR right now!

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo; 1485867]You would choose Peru over the DR knowing what you know now?

I was thinking that being a white guy in the DR would be my biggest issue. I mean I stand out in Peru too, but nothing like I do in the DR. It makes me nervous about when I get too old to defend myself and being such an obvious gringo. No matter if I was in the country for ten years, I just feel like I would be too obviously an extranjero.

In Peru there are areas where my complexion is not that far from the locals' so I feel like with the proper attire I would gradually almost fit in.

But I too sure do love the women in the DR right now![/QUOTE]You don't stand out in the DR, because there are lots of white people, for example Russians, and if your complexion is similar to people in Peru, then you can certainly blend in in the DR, especially if you speak the language and wear the same kind of clothes. In the DR the tourists who stand out the most obviously as tourists are often not white at all.

If anything, what would make you stand out is affluence. If you drive a luxury SUV, shop at Pricemart, and live in a gated community, sure you will stand out from the rabble in the DR or Haiti, but that is the same in the USA or other developed countries.

As far as defending yourself, well the same goes for all the elderly Dominican people and the little children. It is not the Wild West and you are not the Lone Ranger. If you are thinking about home invasions or threats by gangsters, the best policy is to surrender and hope to live another day. Upscale housing developments and condos in the DR do have armed guards present, especially at night. Walking the streets is pretty safe and you rarely hear about street muggings and robberies except in Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1485724]Thanks for that. I was under the impression that only when you can form an easily pronounce-able word, would it be called an acronym as in TIP (to insure promptness) or LASER (Light amplified by stimulated emission of radiation). The rest as in IEEE or in WWJD, are abbreviations. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE]I think you are partly right in that an acronym is a pronounceable word formed from the initial letters of something. However eff-bee-eye is a kind of word, and widely understood, even though the pronunciation is formed from the sounds of the letters. Likewise "double you double you jay dee" or "double you double you double you".

See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjobdArtiA

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1486081]You don't stand out in the DR, because there are lots of white people, for example Russians, and if your complexion is similar to people in Peru, then you can certainly blend in in the DR, especially if you speak the language and wear the same kind of clothes. In the DR the tourists who stand out the most obviously as tourists are often not white at all.

If anything, what would make you stand out is affluence. If you drive a luxury SUV, shop at Pricemart, and live in a gated community, sure you will stand out from the rabble in the DR or Haiti, but that is the same in the USA or other developed countries.

As far as defending yourself, well the same goes for all the elderly Dominican people and the little children. It is not the Wild West and you are not the Lone Ranger. If you are thinking about home invasions or threats by gangsters, the best policy is to surrender and hope to live another day. Upscale housing developments and condos in the DR do have armed guards present, especially at night. Walking the streets is pretty safe and you rarely hear about street muggings and robberies except in Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]I have two more trips scheduled to the DR over the next two months to try to make up my mind. Then it's back to Peru for another comparison. BTW, I am often mistaken for a German tourist in Peru. But there are more people with my physique in Lima than you might think, who are third or fourth generation Peruvians.

I am not combative. My comment about defending myself was for when I'll be walking with a walker. In some places in the USA that is asking for trouble, and I'm sure that's just as true in the DR. What I don't want to do is wind up a target everywhere I go when I get a few years older.

Gated communities don't appeal to me anywhere, for a lot of reasons. I have been staying occasionally in one of the poorest areas of Lima for about three years with a local woman and her family. But Peru is such a long trip for me to get there, I wanted to check out a destination closer to the USA for my regular trips. Your recent appeal for the young Haitian woman is exactly the kind of arrangement I am looking for, but I'm not quite ready to make the move yet. Next year will tell the tale!

Many of you know me from the Sosua line. I'm thinking to move to the Cofresi area and I'm looking to learn all I can about living there. Thinking to take a long-term rental. Looks like $850 per month will get you a lot! Questions; I have a big parsola. I'm good on it. Is it safe to drive this from Cofresi to P. P? Girls? Tell me all you can. BTW I've lived in at Infiit-Blu Sosua for the last three months, so I know all about the girls mentalities. Not looking for advice there. Just: locations, safety, quantity and quality? Also I really like to snorkel and fish, so, how is that Cofresi beach and other playas for clear water to snorkel, and how is the fishing? Price? Quality?

Thanks,

Gary

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1485770]One grammarian was wounded in the semi-colon.[/QUOTE]Hey Charles, you are too funny! .

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo;1486088]My comment about defending myself was for when I'll be walking with a walker. In some places in the USA that is asking for trouble, and I'm sure that's just as true in the DR.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of guys in Sosua who are in wheelchairs, but seem to get around OK and accepted as part of the community. Also a couple of Dominican guys in wheelchairs usually collecting money in a cup outside the pharmacy. Again, they seem to be treated with respect.

[QUOTE=Gary2; 1486096]Many of you know me from the Sosua line. I'm thinking to move to the Cofresi area and I'm looking to learn all I can about living there. Thinking to take a long-term rental. Looks like $850 per month will get you a lot! Questions; I have a big parsola. I'm good on it. Is it safe to drive this from Cofresi to P. P? Girls? Tell me all you can. BTW I've lived in at Infiit-Blu Sosua for the last three months, so I know all about the girls mentalities. Not looking for advice there. Just: locations, safety, quantity and quality? Also I really like to snorkel and fish, so, how is that Cofresi beach and other playas for clear water to snorkel, and how is the fishing? Price? Quality?

Thanks,

Gary[/QUOTE]Hi Gary.

I pay US$235 for a three-bedroom apartment in an OK location in Puerto Plata so you should get a palace for US$850.

I wouldn't fancy driving a pasola (note spelling) along the main highway myself, but it should be safe enough in the daytime. Suicidal at night, though, from both a traffic and robbery point of view.

What attracts you to Cofresi in particular?

I imagine the main reason you would want to go into Pto Pta is for shopping, and for that you might prefer to take a taxi for your weekly needs. But when going in and out unloaded, you could take the guagua or publico unless you live too far from the main road. And if going in at night for the night-life (what little there is of it) you definitely don't want a pasola.

Cofresi is a relatively affluent area, but the stretch between it and Pto Pta is a bit desolate with not many people about.

I am happy to hear you enjoyed your stay in Sosua long enough to want to continue living on the North Coast.

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo; 1485867]You would choose Peru over the DR knowing what you know now?

I was thinking that being a white guy in the DR would be my biggest issue. I mean I stand out in Peru too, but nothing like I do in the DR.[/QUOTE]I've heard some white guys say that Peru is a goldmine for white guys.

How much is a taxi to go from:

1. Casa Cayena to BB.

2. From BB to Playa Doradas hotel Blue Bay.

3. From Blue Bay to Casa Cayena or Cabarete.

4. From Cabarete to Sosua

Thanks. Any recommendations and / or suggestions would be much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1486313]I've heard some white guys say that Peru is a goldmine for white guys.[/QUOTE]We all know there is plenty of racism in Latin America, and Peru is no exception. Many times women have made comments about my eyes (kind of greenish) , hair color, and skin (pretty darn white, and I don't ever try to tan due to skin cancer issues in the family). There are lots of rumors about this. However, I don't think there are too many women anywhere who will base any kind of serious relationship simply on race. In other words, it might get your foot in the door, but after that it's all about your personal chemistry.

Any guy who would accept a relationship based on his race is foolish IMO.

I traveled with a black guy for several years, and he did get treated differently in some places. However, in Brazil he got the royal treatment and I was only tolerated. So he got even with me there! LOL Because he was much more personable than me, he usually was able to get a lot friendlier a lot faster when we stayed anywhere for a week or so, and the women had more fun with him than me. I tried to take lessons but you can't change basic personality types. I call myself El Lobo Solo for a reason!

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo;1486532]However, I don't think there are too many women anywhere who will base any kind of serious relationship simply on race . any guy who would accept a relationship based on his race is foolish IMO.[/QUOTE]Wise words. Who wants to shack up with someone ignorant enough to be a racist (whatever direction their prejudices point)?

[QUOTE=Haven123;1486415]How much is a taxi to go from . etc[/QUOTE]I am just guessing to start the ball rolling, because I never use private taxis. I am happy to be corrected by those who do, so long as they are not dumbass newbies who got taken for a ride in more than one sense.

1) Casa Cayena to BB.

1200 pesos (US$30).

You can do it during daylight for 30 peso moto + 50 pesos publico + 40 pesos JC publico + 50 pesos moto (total 170 pesos) if you don't have more than a backpack. JC publicos stop running after dark.

Or commission a dedicated publico, in which case 30 pesos moto + 700 pesos to the door of BB.

2) From BB to Playa Dorada hotel Blue Bay.

600 pesos (US$15)

3a) From Blue Bay to Casa Cayena.

800 pesos (US$20)

Or 50 pesos by publico or guagua plus half-mile walk each end or 30 peso moto in Sosua.

3b) From Blue Bay to Cabarete.

900 pesos (US$25)

Or 50 pesos + 40 pesos by publico or 80 pesos by Rio San Juan guagua (plus moto in Cabarete?)

4) From Cabarete to Sosua

400 pesos (US$10).

Or 40 pesos by publico.

Note: when not using a private taxi you might need to add a moto ride (at 30 to 50 pesos) at one or both ends of your trip depending where you start and finish from.

Note: if my dollar conversions are inconsistent it is because those who pay in US dollars are likely to have charges rounded up to a convenient amount.

Note: if you get a chance to share the ride and cost with other guys, then private taxis become quite reasonable as they charge per mile and not per person.

Thanks, Charles. Again, you have been a big, big help! Much appreciated!

Yes, I will have to lug luggage on each of those trips. So, I will stick to 4 wheels! BTW, what exactly is a dedicated publico?

I plan to check out various spots and stay in several hotels during the 4 weeks. Don't want the Cupid chicas trying to track me down, or show up in the lobby, assuming I meet up with a few! None of them knows my exact days or where I will be staying. I will decide and call or text them from a local Claro phone after I arrive!

I want to stay on the move! Hahaha. But seriously I do want to be in Sosua, BB, stay at a resort in Playa Dorada (all of those are now booked) , and I plan to book at the Millenium in Cabarete, for a couple of nights.

Do you know of a good, honest private driver with his own car who might me a better alternative? Then I can stick with one guy! I think someone posted a name of a driver in the past few weeks on this board. I will have to comb thru to find that post again!

Thanks again, Mr, Pooter (JK, I know that's not your last name!) Look forward to meeting you!

[quote]=Charles Pooter; 1486618]I am just guessing to start the ball rolling, because I never use private taxis. I am happy to be corrected by those who do, so long as they are not dumbass newbies who got taken for a ride in more than one sense.

1) Casa Cayena to BB.

1200 pesos (US$30).

You can do it during daylight for 30 peso moto + 50 pesos publico + 40 pesos JC publico + 50 pesos moto (total 170 pesos) if you don't have more than a backpack. JC publicos stop running after dark.

Or commission a dedicated publico, in which case 30 pesos moto + 700 pesos to the door of BB.

2) From BB to Playa Dorada hotel Blue Bay.

600 pesos (US$15)

3a) From Blue Bay to Casa Cayena.

800 pesos (US$20)

Or 50 pesos by publico or guagua plus half-mile walk each end or 30 peso moto in Sosua.

3b) From Blue Bay to Cabarete...[/quote]

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo;1486532]Any guy who would accept a relationship based on his race is foolish IMO.[/QUOTE]No need to get defensive. I wasn't saying it in a negative way. I don't think there is anything wrong with any advantage a guy can use when it comes to putting yourself in an environment where pussy might be easier to obtain.

Everyone has their preferences. I know Afro American guys that love places like Australia & Sweden because they say they get a lot of love there, so maybe its a pussy paradise for them. I'm sure there are people that think a relationship based solely on money is foolish. Everyone has his or her preferences and fetishes. I'm referring to bangs and not wives, anyway. If a chic digs a surfer type and wants to freak him because of it, who am I to say that is wrong? LOL

Are you familiar with the district of Miraflores near the edge of the cliff known as "El Malecon"? That is where one of my buddies has been living for the last 3 years. He told me there are sexy chicas in Peru of many mixes and most of them are very attracted to white foreigners. According to him, finding a Peruvian girl to fuck as a white foreigner is like shooting fish in a barrel, particularly in the clubs, bars, penas (live interactive music party's) , beaches (summer-especially the southern beaches are fuck fests) , and central downtown Lima.

I've also heard that many people in the high end districts speak fairly good english and the women love communicating in english there with english speaking natives. I've never been to Peru so I wouldn't know, but I was thinking that you might offer another opinion of how women, in general, treated you there. If you had noticed anything? Basically you said it gets you in the front door.

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1486644]Thanks, Charles.

What exactly is a dedicated publico?[/QUOTE]Remember I am only guessing based on the few times I have used taxis years ago and then upping the prices to allow for inflation. Other members may post better info.

Publicos (carros publicos) are shared taxis running along fixed routes and are extremely cheap and frequent. For example, Pto Pta to Sosua is 45 pesos whereas a private taxi would cost in the upper hundreds. The downside is they squeeze two passengers in the front bucket seat meant for one, and four passengers on the bench seat at back meant for three. You can overcome this if you board at a terminus by paying for two adjacent seats (still a very cheap ride). If you hail them mid-route you are unlikely to get this option and will have to squeeze in.

If you go to the terminus in Pto Pta or in Sosua you can negotiate a price for them to take only you to your specific destination. Specify they are not to stop for other passengers (except shapely chicas). The price is about half what a private taxi would charge but still double what they would make by filling their cab with passengers, so they are usually willing. The downside is the cars are usually clapped-out old heaps but you are not trying to impress anyone (I hope). If the chica sees you arrive in one of these she will know you are not some dumb, rich tourist pendejo and that you know the score here.

I don't think they are allowed into Playa Dorada (but could be wrong) but you haven't mentioned going from Sosua into Playa Dorada so that should not be a problem.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1486644]Do you know of a good, honest private driver with his own car who might me a better alternative? Then I can stick with one guy![/QUOTE]I know one in Pto Pta. But if you use the same guy everywhere from Costambar through to Cabarete (a thirty mile stretch) you will be paying a lot more because he will have to do a return trip from his home to wherever you are before he starts work and will charge you for that time and gas. Plus he will forever turn up late. I really cannot see any advantage in it. In one of my previous posts I advised not to get any closer to Dominicans than you have to. You are just a mark to them.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1486644]Thanks again, Mr Pooter. Look forward to meeting you![/QUOTE]I don't usually mix with people rich enough to use private taxis.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1486644]I plan to check out various spots and stay in several hotels during the 4 weeks. Don't want the Cupid chicas trying to track me down, or show up in the lobby, assuming I meet up with a few! None of them knows my exact days or where I will be staying. I will decide and call or text them from a local Claro phone after I arrive![/QUOTE]If you are so nervous of them that you have to change hotels I am surprised you go out of your way to meet them. I hope that after starting at Blackbeards you will see the light and realise all this internet dating crap is just wasting your time and money.

1. Thanks! The point of potentially becoming a mark for a private taxi guy is a good point. I will avoid that option.

2. Re being too 'rich' to use private taxis? WTF, I have a bunch of luggage. Laptop, ipad etc as well. I can't use a bus or a publico due to my need for space for luggage etc.

3. If a guy is buying a flight, and spending a whole bunch of money on hotels and chicas, then the incremental $100-$130 spent over 4 weeks, I think, as a percentage of total, is not that big a percentage. Also, please remember that unlike many here, I am new to all this, after having recently gone thru a divorce after 20-25 years of married life, and total focus on work and other things besides this. So, in terms of money spent on this kind of stuff, cumulatively over the years, you might still have me beat! In any event, I expect to only live once, and give my over 50 status, I am not going to wait any longer. That is just FYI, FWIW.

I totally appreciate your kind advice and help. It is absolutely appreciated, I promise you!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1486689]Remember I am only guessing based on the few times I have used taxis years ago and then upping the prices to allow for inflation. Other members may post better info.

Publicos (carros publicos) are shared taxis running along fixed routes and are extremely cheap and frequent. For example, Pto Pta to Sosua is 45 pesos whereas a private taxi would cost in the upper hundreds. The downside is they squeeze two passengers in the front bucket seat meant for one, and four passengers on the bench seat at back meant for three. You can overcome this if you board at a terminus by paying for two adjacent seats (still a very cheap ride). If you hail them mid-route you are unlikely to get this option and will have to squeeze in.

I know one in Pto Pta. But if you use the same guy everywhere from Costambar through to Cabarete (a thirty mile stretch) you will be paying a lot more because he will have to do a return trip from his home to wherever you are before he starts work and will charge you for that time and gas. Plus he will forever turn up late. I really cannot see any advantage in it. In one of my previous posts I advised not to get any closer to Dominicans than you have to. You are just a mark to them.

I don't usually mix with people rich enough to use private taxis.

If you are so nervous of them that you have to change hotels I am surprised you go out of your way to meet them. I hope that after starting at Blackbeards you will see the light and realise all this internet dating crap is just wasting your time and money.[/QUOTE]

I will stay in a All Inclusive in POP with my Dominican Chica in January.

Plan is to have a good Time there, chill, eat, drink and Fuck till I am out of Leche.

I spent allready 6 Days with her in Summer and I like the GFE. I personally like it more than Hunting Pros.

I need to go to POP on the first day to buy a Prepaid Sim Card for Internet.

Anyone knows where I can buy cheap generic Viagras or Cyalis there? I plan to buy my Sim Card at La Sirenas in POP. Is there any recommend Pharmacia close by?

Also I never watched a Baseball Game Live and thought I might can do in the Road.

I know there is a Stadium in POP. But are there any good Games. Where I need to go to see a good higher League Game?

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi;1487040]Anyone knows where I can buy cheap generic Viagra or Cialis there? I plan to buy my SIM Card at La Sirena in POP. Is there any recommended Pharmacia close by?[/QUOTE]There is a pharmacy inside La Sirena. You can buy LaPela or Mambo, which are generic forms of Cialis. You can also get generic Viagra (sildenafil). The prices are not particularly cheap but about the same as all the other pharmacies in Puerto Plata-though probably cheap by US standards, and right there for you to find. The only place I know that has this stuff really, really cheap is Latino Minimarket in Sosua. There are pharmacies on every street corner in Puerto Plata, but no great deals, I don't think.

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1486756]1. Thanks! The point of potentially becoming a mark for a private taxi guy is a good point. I will avoid that option.

2. Re being too 'rich' to use private taxis? WTF, I have a bunch of luggage. Laptop, ipad etc as well. I can't use a bus or a publico due to my need for space for luggage etc.

3. If a guy is buying a flight, and spending a whole bunch of money on hotels and chicas, then the incremental $100-$130 spent over 4 weeks, I think, as a percentage of total, is not that big a percentage. Also, please remember that unlike many here, I am new to all this, after having recently gone thru a divorce after 20-25 years of married life, and total focus on work and other things besides this. So, in terms of money spent on this kind of stuff, cumulatively over the years, you might still have me beat! In any event, I expect to only live once, and give my over 50 status, I am not going to wait any longer. That is just FYI, FWIW.

I totally appreciate your kind advice and help. It is absolutely appreciated, I promise you![/QUOTE]A couple of days ago two Haitian chicas I know negotiated a taxi to bring them plus suitcases from Puerto Plata to Sosua. They paid 400 pesos (ten dollars American).

On this board it doesn't matter if you paid $2000 for your flight, because if you tip a chica $5 someone will say you should have given her 50 centavos and she would worship your dick until eternity. Mostly I agree with you, but in the DR people who overpay by local standards sometimes attract unwanted attention from dishonest elements, so it is best to always give the impression that you are down to your last dollar. So you have 20, 000 pesos in your pocket, but you offer a chica 1000 pesos and when she asks for 1200, you look shocked, clutch the left side of your chest, and tell her you don't have that kind of money.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487056]There is a pharmacy inside La Sirena. You can buy LaPela or Mambo, which are generic forms of Cialis. You can also get generic Viagra (sildenafil). The prices are not particularly cheap but about the same as all the other pharmacies in Puerto Plata-though probably cheap by US standards, and right there for you to find. The only place I know that has this stuff really, really cheap is Latino Minimarket in Sosua. There are pharmacies on every street corner in Puerto Plata, but no great deals, I don't think.[/QUOTE]thanks for the Info.

I will buy them at La Sirena then.

We speak not about american Standards, we speak about german Standards.

Here is one single Pill about 10-15 Dollars.

So I can't afford them for Sport fucking here

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi; 1487040]Also I never watched a Baseball Game Live and thought I might can do in the Road.

I know there is a Stadium in POP. But are there any good Games?[/QUOTE]As far as I know it is never used for baseball. Certainly not for games of any great standard. It is not used for anything much else either. I reckon if they had the money they would pull it down. All it is good for is a landmark for giving directions.

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi;1487040]Where I need to go to see a good higher League Game?[/QUOTE]Santiago is the nearest.

There is nice stadium at Altamira, halfway to Santiago on the main highway, but I don't think it is used for league matches because it is only a village. Just charity matches and private functions.

There is a small but new stadium near La Javilla in Pto Pta where local teams play.

If you want a fun afternoon you can watch softball at the Munoz stadium in a "campo" setting. Lots of chicas and a bar, but hard to pick them up in front of their family and neighbours. When I went a fight broke out between the teams after the match in the bar. It had all been very sociable up to that point.

By the way, POP is an airport near Sosua. The abbreviation for Puerto Plata city is "Pto Pta".

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487059]so it is best to always give the impression that you are down to your last dollar. So you have 20, 000 pesos in your pocket, but you offer a chica 1000 pesos and when she asks for 1200, you look shocked, clutch the left side of your chest, and tell her you don't have that kind of money.[/QUOTE]In former posts I said I am looking to maybe move to the DR. I shared some concerns about becoming a target due to among other things, being white.

But I am also concerned about this wealth perception thing. I'm extremely wealthy compared to probably 90% of DR citizens, but only comfortable in the USA. My idea is to try to rent a decent house or apartment, and then host a parade of women through my doors for several years. C Pooters comments about knowing 500 Haitianas certainly would be my goal (LOL I should ever hope to get there!). But to even get halfway there would require that I don't get attacked on a regular basis by thieves etc.

I'm also digesting a serious conversation I had with a very sweet but wise woman last week. She told me that she has been diligently saving money from her work, and expects to be able to buy a small piece of land and then build a small house on it within the next couple of years. Here's the kicker. She said that she would have to move completely away from the neighborhood where she currently lives (in her mother's house, where she grew up) because if she doesn't, her neighbors and even members of her own family will be so consumed with envy and jealousy that she could not live there in comfort.

For those of you who have been living in the DR for awhile, what say you?

I have heard of this kind of envy and jealousy in some other destinations, but was kind of bummed out to hear her bitterness about it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487059]A couple of days ago two Haitian chicas I know negotiated a taxi to bring them plus suitcases from Puerto Plata to Sosua. They paid 400 pesos (ten dollars American).[/QUOTE]That's cheap. Was it a publico? I cannot see a gringo getting that price from a normal taxi. The standard was 700 pesos four years ago. Maybe they threw in sex as well as part of the payment. (An idea for Haven123 if he can find a gay driver).

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1486756]2. Re being too 'rich' to use private taxis? WTF, I have a bunch of luggage. Laptop, ipad etc as well. I can't use a bus or a publico due to my need for space for luggage etc.

3. If a guy is buying a flight, and spending a whole bunch of money on hotels and chicas, then the incremental $100-$130 spent over 4 weeks, I think, as a percentage of total, is not that big a percentage. Also, please remember that unlike many here, I am new to all this, after having recently gone thru a divorce after 20-25 years of married life, and total focus on work and other things besides this. So, in terms of money spent on this kind of stuff, cumulatively over the years, you might still have me beat! In any event, I expect to only live once, and give my over 50 status, I am not going to wait any longer. That is just FYI, FWIW.[/QUOTE]I was just kidding. Of course if you have luggage and valuables, a private taxi is a must for moving around. But use the various public transport options for getting around otherwise. No point in visiting the DR and spending all your time in a sterile tourist "bubble". Experience a bit of the real DR in all its horror.

By the way you can carry luggage on publicos and guaguas for a nominal charge, but obviously not a good idea for valuable or delicate items.

Thanks for your kind comments and I hope you have a great time.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1487069]That's cheap. Was it a publico? I cannot see a gringo getting that price from a normal taxi. The standard was 700 pesos four years ago. Maybe they threw in sex as well as part of the payment. (An idea for Haven123 if he can find a gay driver).[/QUOTE]I think it was a publico. Another way to make the trip cheaply with baggage is to use Metrobus, but of course that does not go door-to-door. Or you could go Caribe Tours to Charamicos and then another 250 pesos for the taxi to your address in el Batey. People tend to forget you can take Caribe Tours or Metro between Sosua and Puerto Plata quite cheaply in relative luxury with a / see reclining seats, etc.

Oh boy. I was laughing so hard!

Unfortunately, not gay. Love gay folks. But I don't have that in my DNA. Before I get clobbered, yes I know it largely a natural creation, and partly not quite so. Anyway, that strategy has zero prob of working for me. And I could not pull off the 'turn into a sexy Haitian chica' magic trick either!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1487069]That's cheap. Was it a publico? I cannot see a gringo getting that price from a normal taxi. The standard was 700 pesos four years ago. Maybe they threw in sex as well as part of the payment. (An idea for Haven123 if he can find a gay driver).[/QUOTE]

Thanks for this suggestion, Frannie. I think I will go the Caribe Tours route. I suppose they have a website?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487076]I think it was a publico. Another way to make the trip cheaply with baggage is to use Metrobus, but of course that does not go door-to-door. Or you could go Caribe Tours to Charamicos and then another 250 pesos for the taxi to your address in el Batey. People tend to forget you can take Caribe Tours or Metro between Sosua and Puerto Plata quite cheaply in relative luxury with a / see reclining seats, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1487066]As far as I know it is never used for baseball. Certainly not for games of any great standard. It is not used for anything much else either. I reckon if they had the money they would pull it down. All it is good for is a landmark for giving directions.

Santiago is the nearest.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the Info.

I try to find out if there a Match worth to watch in Santiago when I am there

I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.

I love Dominican chicas, but after several days of fucking and drinking it really gets boring.

If you compare DR with USA and Europe the only advantage seems to be chicas. I'll compare a few things below.

-Healthcare-much cheaper, but quality is so much lower.

-Restaurants-sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive, but variety is so low; I miss NYC restaurants after a week.

-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.

-Pretty much everything, from TVs and computers to clothes is plus 50-150% comparing to the USA.

-Air fare is just crazy expensive, over 500$ for JFK-POP return trip and sometimes during US holidays the price could be over a 1, 000$! You can easily pay half the price for the same distance within US, not to mention Europe where you can pay 30-80 Euros (40-110$) on Ryanair or Easyjet.

-Cars-double price comparing to the USA.

-Culture and entertainment (besides fucking around). No theaters, almost no movie theaters and so on.

-Home utilities-with constant need of generator and overpriced gas and many other things you can pay more than in USA.

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo; 1487068]In former posts I said I am looking to maybe move to the DR. I shared some concerns about becoming a target due to among other things, being white.

But I am also concerned about this wealth perception thing. I'm extremely wealthy compared to probably 90% of DR citizens, but only comfortable in the USA. My idea is to try to rent a decent house or apartment, and then host a parade of women through my doors for several years. C Pooters comments about knowing 500 Haitianas certainly would be my goal (LOL I should ever hope to get there!). But to even get halfway there would require that I don't get attacked on a regular basis by thieves etc.

I'm also digesting a serious conversation I had with a very sweet but wise woman last week. She told me that she has been diligently saving money from her work, and expects to be able to buy a small piece of land and then build a small house on it within the next couple of years. Here's the kicker. She said that she would have to move completely away from the neighborhood where she currently lives (in her mother's house, where she grew up) because if she doesn't, her neighbors and even members of her own family will be so consumed with envy and jealousy that she could not live there in comfort.

For those of you who have been living in the DR for awhile, what say you?

I have heard of this kind of envy and jealousy in some other destinations, but was kind of bummed out to hear her bitterness about it.[/QUOTE]

Nice place to visit but living there may be not. DR is a great change of pace. Just like the women if you spend to much time with them you see how limited your relationship is. I have noticed that many expats seem some what sour about the Dr for many of the reasons you mentioned. I think having the best of both worlds is the answer. Spend the winter in the DR but live primarily in your own country.

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1487269]I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.

I love Dominican chicas, but after several days of fucking and drinking it really gets boring.

If you compare DR with USA and Europe the only advantage seems to be chicas. I'll compare a few things below.

-Healthcare-much cheaper, but quality is so much lower.

-Restaurants-sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive, but variety is so low; I miss NYC restaurants after a week.

-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.

-Pretty much everything, from TVs and computers to clothes is plus 50-150% comparing to the USA.

-Air fare is just crazy expensive, over 500$ for JFK-POP return trip and sometimes during US holidays the price could be over a 1, 000$! You can easily pay half the price for the same distance within US, not to mention Europe where you can pay 30-80 Euros (40-110$) on Ryanair or Easyjet.

-Cars-double price comparing to the USA.

-Culture and entertainment (besides fucking around). No theaters, almost no movie theaters and so on.

-Home utilities-with constant need of generator and overpriced gas and many other things you can pay more than in USA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1487269]I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.[/QUOTE]I'm kind of getting that same vibe. But I have two more trips already booked, and the jury is still out.

One huge advantage of Lima, Peru, is that like NYC, if you ever get bored in Lima, you are tired of life (to paraphrase Boswell). My next trip is to southern DR, including el capital Santo Domingo. I am very curious to see how well the big city compares with Northern DR.

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1487269]I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.

I love Dominican chicas, but after several days of fucking and drinking it really gets boring.

If you compare DR with USA and Europe the only advantage seems to be chicas. I'll compare a few things below.

-Healthcare-much cheaper, but quality is so much lower.

-Restaurants-sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive, but variety is so low; I miss NYC restaurants after a week.

-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.

-Pretty much everything, from TVs and computers to clothes is plus 50-150% comparing to the USA.

-Air fare is just crazy expensive, over 500$ for JFK-POP return trip and sometimes during US holidays the price could be over a 1, 000$! You can easily pay half the price for the same distance within US, not to mention Europe where you can pay 30-80 Euros (40-110$) on Ryanair or Easyjet.

-Cars-double price comparing to the USA.

-Culture and entertainment (besides fucking around). No theaters, almost no movie theaters and so on.

-Home utilities-with constant need of generator and overpriced gas and many other things you can pay more than in USA.[/QUOTE]Really depends what you are comparing it with. I think that compared to retiring to Florida, the quality of life in the DR is better dollar for dollar.

Yes, some thing are more expensive, though you can order through Amazon and pay no tax on items of value less than $200. I think restaurants are better than Florida, though probably New York City restaurants are better than DR.

Public transportation is very cheap in the DR, if you want to live without all the bother of a car. You can walk everywhere, which is hard to do in Florida, probably easier in NYC.

Climate is better than Florida which has very oppressive summers with many electrical storms and quite cold spells in the winter.

If you rent a condo that has a good generator, then power outages are a non issue.

Modern medicines and Internet all available. Also cable TV with channels from all countries very cheap. I don't really watch TV, but it seems that the cable is better than in the US.

Standard of health care much less high tech than US, but much, much cheaper. I know people who have had surgeries here with good outcomes. They tend to use ultrasounds a lot instead of MRI scans, which is much cheaper and seems fairly effective. Dentistry is fine, and much, much cheaper than the US.

Housing rentals and construction much cheaper than Florida when comparing like for like. For $1000 per month, you can live in a really nice 2-bedroom furnished apartment with pool, landscaped gardens, barbecue pits, wi-fi, cooking gas, and cable TV all included. You can get a pretty decent apartment for $500 per month with pool, maintenance, generator, etc. How much for this in NYC? I hate to think.

But what it really comes down to is whether you like the culture, the people, the language, etc. Clearly there are all kinds of reasons to prefer living in the US, especially if you have family and connections there, but if you don't, then DR is very liveable.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1487273]Nice place to visit but living there may be not. DR is a great change of pace. Just like the women if you spend to much time with them you see how limited your relationship is. I have noticed that many expats seem some what sour about the Dr for many of the reasons you mentioned. I think having the best of both worlds is the answer. Spend the winter in the DR but live primarily in your own country.[/QUOTE]I know expats who have that sour attitude, but I live in the DR and am grateful every day to live in such a beautiful place with such great people. A lot of it just comes down to your mental attitude.

Just yesterday I was paying for a little girl to have school dinners provided at the Christian School and the very pleasant guy who runs the kitchen was telling me that all the kids in the school are his children, because he doesn't have any of his own and he prays everyday that The Lord will give him a child, and you see how happy the kids and the staff are in the school, and it doesn't seem like the US at all.

Of course I am probably made happy by little things because I have a trivial mind.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487296]Really depends what you are comparing it with. I think that compared to retiring to Florida, the quality of life in the DR is better dollar for dollar.[/QUOTE]As the song said "you know you've got to finally decide, to pick up on one and let the other one slide." Fortunately while I struggle with this big decision, there will be sweet Dominicanas ready and willing to help me make up my mind!

It might be hard to think with your big head LOL.

It's really hard to make right decision after having all kinds of fun.

I guess after several trips and COOL OFF periods you will understand what's best for you.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo;1487305]As the song said "you know you've got to finally decide, to pick up on one and let the other one slide." Fortunately while I struggle with this big decision, there will be sweet Dominicanas ready and willing to help me make up my mind![/QUOTE]

DR could be cheaper comparing to USA.

Amazon-what about delivery cost and reliability of Dominican Post Office?

I guess comparing your spending for a year or two during short trips would help.

But it's not only about money, boredom and quality of life matters even more IMHO.

I did not spend too much time in Florida, but diversity in Florida is so much better. I have to agree about weather though.

Power outages with high gas price is quite a problem according to some locals.

Internet and cable TV in my experience have serious quality issues.

Use of ultrasounds instead of MRI scans with high risk of bad diagnostics may cost you your life.

For $1000 per month in NYC you can have a shit hole, you are absolutely right about that. But if you'll check out most of smaller towns in USA, you can have much better quality for the same price.

Walking ATM attitude from many locals is a serious issue.

DR is can be livable, definitely not a worst place to live. I just think that multiple visits with coll off periods are important in order to make right decision. I guess when I will finally get tired of a rat race I might reconsider.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1487296]Really depends what you are comparing it with. I think that compared to retiring to Florida, the quality of life in the DR is better dollar for dollar.

Yes, some thing are more expensive, though you can order through Amazon and pay no tax on items of value less than $200. I think restaurants are better than Florida, though probably New York City restaurants are better than DR.

Public transportation is very cheap in the DR, if you want to live without all the bother of a car. You can walk everywhere, which is hard to do in Florida, probably easier in NYC.

Climate is better than Florida which has very oppressive summers with many electrical storms and quite cold spells in the winter.

If you rent a condo that has a good generator, then power outages are a non issue.

Modern medicines and Internet all available. Also cable TV with channels from all countries very cheap. I don't really watch TV, but it seems that the cable is better than in the US.

Standard of health care much less high tech than US, but much, much cheaper. I know people who have had surgeries here with good outcomes. They tend to use ultrasounds a lot instead of MRI scans, which is much cheaper and seems fairly effective. Dentistry is fine, and much, much cheaper than the US.

Housing rentals and construction much cheaper than Florida when comparing like for like. For $1000 per month, you can live in a really nice 2-bedroom furnished apartment with pool, landscaped gardens, barbecue pits, wi-fi, cooking gas, and cable TV all included. You can get a pretty decent apartment for $500 per month with pool, maintenance, generator, etc. How much for this in NYC? I hate to think.

But what it really comes down to is whether you like the culture, the people, the language, etc. Clearly there are all kinds of reasons to prefer living in the US, especially if you have family and connections there, but if you don't, then DR is very liveable.[/QUOTE]

100% agree with that statement.

For those who can afford it, it seems to be the best solution.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1487273]Nice place to visit but living there may be not. DR is a great change of pace. Just like the women if you spend to much time with them you see how limited your relationship is. I have noticed that many expats seem some what sour about the Dr for many of the reasons you mentioned. I think having the best of both worlds is the answer. Spend the winter in the DR but live primarily in your own country.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1487363]100% agree with that statement.

For those who can afford it, it seems to be the best solution.[/QUOTE]That's my game plan. I need that home base that is safe and comfortable. I've noticed that after 10 days in the DR, I'm ready to go home to Miami and my humble home. The DR has many things about the culture that would drive me crazy if I was a full time resident. How people give up everything and move there confuses me. Just the simple fact that a broke ass motochoncho guy could have you killed for 10k pesos and walk around freely is disturbing. Or a chica can make false allegation with no facts and you will have to pay with your life savings is fucked up.

After all my travels the one place that I could probably live is Thailand. Its clean, respectful, affordable, and fun. But its also a 23 hour flight from the states. Its just the opposite of the DR. The traffic flows smooth and respectful. Everything is clean and orderly. The food and lodging are cheap and good. The women are humble. When I was there with Mr E we rented mopeds and went 80 miles out. Even away from the city it was a peaceful and clean society. Damn I'm missing Thailand already, February can't get here fast enough.

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1487360]DR could be cheaper comparing to USA.

Amazon-what about delivery cost and reliability of Dominican Post Office?

I guess comparing your spending for a year or two during short trips would help.

But it's not only about money, boredom and quality of life matters even more IMHO.

I did not spend too much time in Florida, but diversity in Florida is so much better. I have to agree about weather though.

Power outages with high gas price is quite a problem according to some locals.

Internet and cable TV in my experience have serious quality issues.

Use of ultrasounds instead of MRI scans with high risk of bad diagnostics may cost you your life.

For $1000 per month in NYC you can have a shit hole, you are absolutely right about that. But if you'll check out most of smaller towns in USA, you can have much better quality for the same price.

Walking ATM attitude from many locals is a serious issue.

DR is can be livable, definitely not a worst place to live. I just think that multiple visits with coll off periods are important in order to make right decision. I guess when I will finally get tired of a rat race I might reconsider.[/QUOTE]You can ship things from Amazon to a shipping address in Miami and they forward to you. Prices are based on weight, but not too bad.

Power outages, yes, but the apartment I rent has the cooking gas included in rent via central supply and has a backup generator that always kicks in within seconds. For locals this can be a problem, yes.

Cable TV is pretty good-I wish it went out more often, but it doesn't- and Internet has occasional intermissions, but you get used to it. There has never been a day in more than 2 years when I could not use the Internet to do everything I needed.

Walking ATM attitude dissipates when they get to know you.

I would not worry too much about MRIs. If you die, you die. When my parents were kids there were no modern antibiotics (only sulphonamides) and no reliable cure for syphilis or TB (my grandmother died of TB before the age of 30), and I didn't have a routine blood test until I was in my mid forties and there was no Viagra. Be thankful you live in the modern age.

In any case, you have to make mental adjustments. You cannot understand the quality of life in the DR when looking at it from a US perspective, because you are still thinking like an American. Life in the DR is simpler and more like earlier times. That is the whole attraction.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1487269]-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.[/QUOTE]It depends what you buy. Imported goods are more expensive, but you can buy Russian and Polish products and God knows what in the supermarket. On the other hand, once you have adapted to a diet based on local Dominican meats and produce, you get used to it. I do find it annoying that you can't find beef stock cubes, but then you just have to make your own beef stock. Chicken is good and is not injected with saline fluids. The range of fruits and vegetables is equal or better than the supermarkets in Florida and cheaper, sometimes a lot cheaper. In Sosua, due to the presence of German bakeries, the breads are considerably superior to the breads available in US supermarkets. Dairy is OK. Yoghurts are a bit better than what is available in the US, local butter is available, eggs are good. Fresh milk is a problem, but most people find it more convenient to buy powder and mix it at home. In any case you can't get fresh milk in Florida either. It is true that you can't find some items in supermarkets at times, like I could not find ground or fresh ginger yesterday which pissed me off, (but they have it in La Sirena).

Clearly, it's the attitude, or mindset, Frannie! You've obviously got that. And grounded in the big picture of things and life!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1487392]You can ship things from Amazon to a shipping address in Miami and they forward to you. Prices are based on weight, but not too bad.

Power outages, yes, but the apartment I rent has the cooking gas included in rent via central supply and has a backup generator that always kicks in within seconds. For locals this can be a problem, yes.

Cable TV is pretty good-I wish it went out more often, but it doesn't- and Internet has occasional intermissions, but you get used to it. There has never been a day in more than 2 years when I could not use the Internet to do everything I needed.

Walking ATM attitude dissipates when they get to know you.

I would not worry too much about MRIs. If you die, you die. When my parents were kids there were no modern antibiotics (only sulphonamides) and no reliable cure for syphilis or TB (my grandmother died of TB before the age of 30) , and I didn't have a routine blood test until I was in my mid forties and there was no Viagra. Be thankful you live in the modern age.

In any case, you have to make mental adjustments. You cannot understand the quality of life in the DR when looking at it from a US perspective, because you are still thinking like an American. Life in the DR is simpler and more like earlier times. That is the whole attraction.[/QUOTE]

But when you compare with Walmart, Costco, Whole Foods and countless ethnic food supermarkets La Sirena really sucks.

I love Indian, Chinese, Malaysian, Thai and many other different cuisines and I have no other choice, but bring it in my luggage from the States or Europe. The same applies to beer and liquors. Not a big deal when I visit for a few days, but for a person who plan to live in DR this could become an issue.

Sure, you can adapt and in basic staples quality is not bad. One correction about meat, you can never be sure that what you eat is not made from some crap frozen years ago. You can easily find really fresh grass fed meat in USA, but I wish I knew how to do the same in DR.

May I ask for your advice-where you can find some variety in Puerto Plata besides La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487400]It depends what you buy. Imported goods are more expensive, but you can buy Russian and Polish products and God knows what in the supermarket. On the other hand, once you have adapted to a diet based on local Dominican meats and produce, you get used to it. I do find it annoying that you can't find beef stock cubes, but then you just have to make your own beef stock. Chicken is good and is not injected with saline fluids. The range of fruits and vegetables is equal or better than the supermarkets in Florida and cheaper, sometimes a lot cheaper. In Sosua, due to the presence of German bakeries, the breads are considerably superior to the breads available in US supermarkets. Dairy is OK. Yoghurts are a bit better than what is available in the US, local butter is available, eggs are good. Fresh milk is a problem, but most people find it more convenient to buy powder and mix it at home. In any case you can't get fresh milk in Florida either. It is true that you can't find some items in supermarkets at times, like I could not find ground or fresh ginger yesterday which pissed me off, (but they have it in La Sirena).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1487449]But when you compare with Walmart, Costco, Whole Foods and countless ethnic food supermarkets La Sirena really sucks.

I love Indian, Chinese, Malaysian, Thai and many other different cuisines and I have no other choice, but bring it in my luggage from the States or Europe. The same applies to beer and liquors. Not a big deal when I visit for a few days, but for a person who plan to live in DR this could become an issue.

Sure, you can adapt and in basic staples quality is not bad. One correction about meat, you can never be sure that what you eat is not made from some crap frozen years ago. You can easily find really fresh grass fed meat in USA, but I wish I knew how to do the same in DR.

May I ask for your advice-where you can find some variety in Puerto Plata besides La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket?[/QUOTE]Ya there is a butchers shop in the near the center of Puerto.

Plata where they have the whole carcases hanging from hooks and blood-splashed guys in rubber boot will hack off what you want. (Try not to get

Splashed as you watch.) You can also get goat and rabbit. There is also a fish shop that has both fresh and frozen fish. You can buy oriental spices in 5 lbs packs through one of the Amazon merchants, so you can eat chicken masala or whatever you want to your heart's content if you get those supplies and spice combinations.

Fresh fruits, coconuts, , etc. Are often sold in the street, or just above the flea market is a is a food market. (Nearl Mountain View hotel.) You can go to Pricemart in Santiago. There here is a bakery just behind la Sirena, and

And a cake shop up 21st febrero. The pizzeria at the Sunoco gas station on

The highway also has home made cakes, etc. Sunoco breads, deserts, there is s

A good fruit and veg shop almost across from Brughal factory, also sells loose rice, be beans, etc. (near Coca-Cola.)

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1487449]You can easily find really fresh grass fed meat in USA, but I wish I knew how to do the same in DR.[/QUOTE]Most beef in the US is actually grain fed and slaughtered at about 2 years. DR beef is usually grass fed and slaughtered at about 6 years and sent direct to market. For this reason DR beef is usually leaner and tougher and requires more prep at the cooking stage.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487491]Most beef in the US is actually grain fed and slaughtered at about 2 years. DR beef is usually grass fed and slaughtered at about 6 years and sent direct to market. For this reason DR beef is usually leaner and tougher and requires more prep at the cooking stage.[/QUOTE]I cracked up at the chicken masala thing.

I would love to live a simpler existence, correction, life that reminds me of how it was when I was growing up. Being able to buy freshly slaughtered cow (ahem goat) would be one such thing. Having access to fresh fish is another. I am fed up with everything mostly frozen unless I drive 30 minutes to go to chinatown in Boston, when they can whack a few live fishes and clean those for me.

I also like access to fresh vegetables and fruits. Granted, I may not have cherry or peach etc. But there would be mangoes fresh off the tree just like in my childhood and other tropical delights.

I have come to like Dominican food quite a bit. Including the healthier kinds such as habichuela. Beans cooked with oregano and other spices. I had a woman who brought me cooked goat at one time and another time, another woman cooked meat for me at her house and they were delicious. Granted that Asian cuisine is hard to get but if you are anywhere close to Sosua, you would not miss quality European cuisine including excellent bread as you pointed out. I also understand that in SD, there is a Japanese restaurant now.

The best outcome of course, as you mentioned, depends on your outlook. Not taking life too seriously can work wonders and then of course, anytime, you have had enough, you can always catch a plane to buy ingredients that would spice up and spruce up your life. LOL.

Probably cheaper to feed grass.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487491]Most beef in the US is actually grain fed and slaughtered at about 2 years. DR beef is usually grass fed and slaughtered at about 6 years and sent direct to market. For this reason DR beef is usually leaner and tougher and requires more prep at the cooking stage.[/QUOTE]

I'll check out some of those places next time I'm in DR.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1487457]Ya there is a butchers shop in the near the center of Puerto.

Plata where they have the whole carcases hanging from hooks and blood-splashed guys in rubber boot will hack off what you want. (Try not to get

Splashed as you watch.) You can also get goat and rabbit. There is also a fish shop that has both fresh and frozen fish. You can buy oriental spices in 5 lbs packs through one of the Amazon merchants, so you can eat chicken masala or whatever you want to your heart's content if you get those supplies and spice combinations.

Fresh fruits, coconuts, , etc. Are often sold in the street, or just above the flea market is a is a food market. (Nearl Mountain View hotel.) You can go to Pricemart in Santiago. There here is a bakery just behind la Sirena, and

And a cake shop up 21st febrero. The pizzeria at the Sunoco gas station on

The highway also has home made cakes, etc. Sunoco breads, deserts, there is s

A good fruit and veg shop almost across from Brughal factory, also sells loose rice, be beans, etc. (near Coca-Cola.) [/QUOTE]

MRI can detect serious stuff which is easily curable when detected early.

Walking ATM attitude can become even worse as the time goes by, it just will be concealed, but of course YMMV.

Mental adjustments-of course it's possible, just make sure you want to adjust that much.

Dominicanas locas attitude for instance are great for short vacation, not so great for everyday life.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1487392]You can ship things from Amazon to a shipping address in Miami and they forward to you. Prices are based on weight, but not too bad.

Power outages, yes, but the apartment I rent has the cooking gas included in rent via central supply and has a backup generator that always kicks in within seconds. For locals this can be a problem, yes.

Cable TV is pretty good-I wish it went out more often, but it doesn't- and Internet has occasional intermissions, but you get used to it. There has never been a day in more than 2 years when I could not use the Internet to do everything I needed.

Walking ATM attitude dissipates when they get to know you.

I would not worry too much about MRIs. If you die, you die. When my parents were kids there were no modern antibiotics (only sulphonamides) and no reliable cure for syphilis or TB (my grandmother died of TB before the age of 30) , and I didn't have a routine blood test until I was in my mid forties and there was no Viagra. Be thankful you live in the modern age.

In any case, you have to make mental adjustments. You cannot understand the quality of life in the DR when looking at it from a US perspective, because you are still thinking like an American. Life in the DR is simpler and more like earlier times. That is the whole attraction.[/QUOTE]

500$ or more for a ticket could be a bit problematic for some folks.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1487537]I cracked up at the chicken masala thing.

I would love to live a simpler existence, correction, life that reminds me of how it was when I was growing up. Being able to buy freshly slaughtered cow (ahem goat) would be one such thing. Having access to fresh fish is another. I am fed up with everything mostly frozen unless I drive 30 minutes to go to chinatown in Boston, when they can whack a few live fishes and clean those for me.

I also like access to fresh vegetables and fruits. Granted, I may not have cherry or peach etc. But there would be mangoes fresh off the tree just like in my childhood and other tropical delights.

I have come to like Dominican food quite a bit. Including the healthier kinds such as habichuela. Beans cooked with oregano and other spices. I had a woman who brought me cooked goat at one time and another time, another woman cooked meat for me at her house and they were delicious. Granted that Asian cuisine is hard to get but if you are anywhere close to Sosua, you would not miss quality European cuisine including excellent bread as you pointed out. I also understand that in SD, there is a Japanese restaurant now.

The best outcome of course, as you mentioned, depends on your outlook. Not taking life too seriously can work wonders and then of course, anytime, you have had enough, you can always catch a plane to buy ingredients that would spice up and spruce up your life. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1487647]500$ or more for a ticket could be a bit problematic for some folks.[/QUOTE]Someone who lives in the NYC area and regularly dines out in NYC restaurants would not find it so.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1487537]I would love to live a simpler existence, correction, life that reminds me of how it was when I was growing up.[/QUOTE]That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1487537]I also like access to fresh vegetables and fruits. Granted, I may not have cherry or peach etc. But there would be mangoes fresh off the tree just like in my childhood and other tropical delights.[/QUOTE]In the DR you never go short of fresh pineapples, guavas, papaya, passion fruit, bananas, avocadoes, and mangoes-and they are cheap. Oranges and imported apples are also readily available if you get a yearning for apple pie. To go with it there are plenty of flavors of ice cream not available elsewhere.

Next month I will be making a trip to Florida and am actually dreading having to try to find something decent to eat in the kind of restaurants you find close to the highway. There will be no DR breakfasts of bacon, free range eggs, homefries, fruit salads of papaya, pineapple, banana, watermelon, orange, aromatic coffee, juice, ice water, croissants, toast, and jam for $5, that is for sure!

Dominican coffee is excellent, strong, fragrant, and full of flavour, but for some reason it seems most people in the US like their coffee both bitter and weak, a combination I truly hate, so it is really difficult to find a decent cup of coffee on the road in hotels, restaurants and gas stations, and I once got reprimanded by a cop for using a camping gas stove to prepare a decent pot of Eight O'Clock coffee in a picnic area at a highway rest station!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1487748]That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)

In the DR you never go short of fresh pineapples, guavas, papaya, passion fruit, bananas, avocadoes, and mangoes-and they are cheap. Oranges and imported apples are also readily available if you get a yearning for apple pie. To go with it there are plenty of flavors of ice cream not available elsewhere.

Next month I will be making a trip to Florida and am actually dreading having to try to find something decent to eat in the kind of restaurants you find close to the highway. There will be no DR breakfasts of bacon, free range eggs, homefries, fruit salads of papaya, pineapple, banana, watermelon, orange, aromatic coffee, juice, ice water, croissants, toast, and jam for $5, that is for sure!

Dominican coffee is excellent, strong, fragrant, and full of flavour, but for some reason it seems most people in the US like their coffee both bitter and weak, a combination I truly hate, so it is really difficult to find a decent cup of coffee on the road in hotels, restaurants and gas stations, and I once got reprimanded by a cop for using a camping gas stove to prepare a decent pot of Eight O'Clock coffee in a picnic area at a highway rest station![/QUOTE]More than 4 years ago at a lakeside picnic in northern NewEngland, I mentioned how good the coffee was in the DR. And how it did not give me the jitters. A gentleman spoke up and identified himself as having a Phd. In Nutrition told me he traveled the Caribbean Basin extensively. He said coffee here is not treated with a DDT derivative in it's processing. He stated that the chemical additives is what causes the jitters, not the caffeine. The closest brand that tastes like Dominican coffee in US is Bostelo, processed in Miami.

I usually buy Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1487763]More than 4 years ago at a lakeside picnic in northern NewEngland, I mentioned how good the coffee was in the DR. And how it did not give me the jitters. A gentleman spoke up and identified himself as having a Phd. In Nutrition told me he traveled the Caribbean Basin extensively. He said coffee here is not treated with a DDT derivative in it's processing. He stated that the chemical additives is what causes the jitters, not the caffeine. The closest brand that tastes like Dominican coffee in US is Bostelo, processed in Miami.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Been lurking around the forums and reading the awesome posts and reports. Decided to make a trip to FOD for 2 days as I've heard so much about it and newbie friendly same goes for BB so I've read. Just wanted to see if anyone will be around during that time. Definitely would like to see what it is like in Sosua as well.

Anyway looking forward to it and meeting up with other mongers that may be around then.

Mr. Baggins

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1487800]I usually buy Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is the generic blend of Dominican coffees and pretty good too. I quite like Monte Royale, which is roasted together with some cocoa beans and has a wonderful chocolatey aroma when brewing. It is not expensive. Induban is another brand that I think is made by the same people as the Santo Domingo. There are also some organic coffees that are a bit more expensive that you can find in the large supermarkets. But for general purposes Santo Domingo is fine, and that is what you will get in restaurants.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1487748]That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)

Dominican coffee is excellent, strong, fragrant, and full of flavour, [/QUOTE]I was speaking to a young woman yesterday who was away for a week and sent me a picture of their family "campo" property where she was vacationing. It looked idyllic. She lives in Santiago Rodrigues. So your thoughts including that of your childhood increases my pinings. And no, I have no use for cable TV.

Thanks also for reminding me of coffee. Cafe domenicano! Strangely, it is so akin to French Cafe au lait, especially in a bowl as against a cup. That I love (as compared to Italian Cappuccino or caffe expresso). But as a good Indian thanks to your people (and the Chinese) influence, my daily drink is tea. With a "spot" of milk and sugar. If I have to be anywhere for longer than a week, I miss my fragrant Darjeeling.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1487647]500$ or more for a ticket could be a bit problematic for some folks.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it is. I got bad habits thanks to living in 3 continents for extended period of time. As always, when you leave a place, you remember all the good things of that place so If I were to live anywhere for too long it gives me the jitters and change of space and pace and food and women works with me. I love to wake up in Germany and have a bratwurste, brot and senf (mustard) washed down with a hearty lager. As much as being in Hong Kong and have rice porridge for breakfast. Of course, as we age, long distance air travel does get on our nerves.

Indeed as you had described, I carried stuff from Asia when I lived in Europe and carried stuff from Europe when I lived in Asia. The US is different in that we practically live inside a world community. Especially if you live in places like the NYC. Ah, that reminds me, curry wurst is now a big seller in German fast food places.

Live in countries with vineyards and have fun in coffee producing countries.

I gather many chicas at BB, FOD and Sosua come in from Sosua. How much does it cost them by moto vs. Autobus? Other taxis are those the only 2 options. It takes about an hour, correct?

Is there any way for me to find a moto guy or some other transport person who will bring a chica (met thru Cupid) to Casa Cayena, if I pay that guy upon arrival with the chica?

How much would that be, please?

I will provide a report on this aspect of my experience and the total trip as a report after my trip! THANKS!

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1490044]I gather many chicas at BB, FOD and Sosua come in from Sosua. How much does it cost them by moto vs. Autobus? Other taxis are those the only 2 options. It takes about an hour, correct?

Is there any way for me to find a moto guy or some other transport person who will bring a chica (met thru Cupid) to Casa Cayena, if I pay that guy upon arrival with the chica?

How much would that be, please?

I will provide a report on this aspect of my experience and the total trip as a report after my trip! THANKS![/QUOTE]Your cupid chica will be able to get around on her own better than you can arrange it, don't sweat it. Give her the address of the hotel. She'll take some combination of buses, gua guas, publicos or motoconchos depending on where she's coming from and it might cost her a few hundred pesos. You can ask her how she's getting there and offer to cover it if you want.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony;1490075]Your cupid chica will be able to get around on her own better than you can arrange it, don't sweat it. Give her the address of the hotel. She'll take some combination of buses, gua guas, publicos or motoconchos depending on where she's coming from and it might cost her a few hundred pesos. You can ask her how she's getting there and offer to cover it if you want.[/QUOTE]Thanks! What if they say they have pesos to travel, etc. But are willing to come if I arrange transport payment (not to them but whoever I pick and pay)? One said 800 pesos from Santiago (WTF). And 1, 000 pesos for babysitter. Of course, I deleted her pronto!

[QUOTE=Haven123;1490080]Thanks! What if they say they have pesos to travel, etc. But are willing to come if I arrange transport payment (not to them but whoever I pick and pay)? One said 800 pesos from Santiago (WTF). And 1, 000 pesos for babysitter. Of course, I deleted her pronto![/QUOTE]She can travel from Santiago to Sosua by Carribe or Metro bus which is a modern fancy air cond bus for about 200 pesos with no more than another 200 for motos to and from the bus stops. If you want to arrange this google the Carribe tours or Metro bus website and pass the ticket and schedule info on. Tell her you can pay for her moto from the bustop if she wants and reimburse her for the other maybe 300 pesos then. Any private driver you get will cost a lot since they end up going both ways to get back home and gas is expensive. I wouldn't get into paying babysitting for a chica you have never met.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony;1490091]She can travel from Santiago to Sosua by Carribe or Metro bus which is a modern fancy air cond bus for about 200 pesos with no more than another 200 for motos to and from the bus stops. If you want to arrange this google the Carribe tours or Metro bus website and pass the ticket and schedule info on. Tell her you can pay for her moto from the bustop if she wants and reimburse her for the other maybe 300 pesos then. Any private driver you get will cost a lot since they end up going both ways to get back home and gas is expensive. I wouldn't get into paying babysitting for a chica you have never met.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Man!

Haven, you are coming to the North Coast, and area where attractive chicas in all shapes, sizes and colors are widely available at reasonable prices. Why are you making it so complicated? You are just setting yourself up to waste time and money.

These putas you are talking to on Cupid probably know their way to, and around, Sosua better than anyone on this board. They may already be living there.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1490198]Haven, you are coming to the North Coast, and area where attractive chicas in all shapes, sizes and colors are widely available at reasonable prices. Why are you making it so complicated? You are just setting yourself up to waste time and money.

These putas you are talking to on Cupid probably know their way to, and around, Sosua better than anyone on this board. They may already be living there.[/QUOTE]Haven, listen to Mr. Pooter!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1490198]Haven, you are coming to the North Coast, and area where attractive chicas in all shapes, sizes and colors are widely available at reasonable prices. Why are you making it so complicated? You are just setting yourself up to waste time and money.

These putas you are talking to on Cupid probably know their way to, and around, Sosua better than anyone on this board. They may already be living there.[/QUOTE]1. I agree with you and have adjusted my thinking accordingly.

2. I am going to be in the area for 4 weeks, including stays at a resort in Playa Doradas and maybe Cabarete. So, I need to mix it up some, with a few non-pros (at least ones I believe are non-pros) , ones I connect with, have spoken with and have messaged back and forth for weeks. One coming from San Crustobal who has never asked me for a dime and is studying civil engineering, but also a model and works the booths at trade shows. I am sure she is not innocent or inexperienced, but at least she has never asked me for anything. I believe legit. Another who is a medical student in Santiago. Only wants money for transport. I have perused their Facebook sites well and feel they are not lying and are legit. That does not mean that I could be wrong! I just am the type that likes legitimate college girls who are intelligent, have a brain, study etc. Not in lieu of, but in addition to the chicas at BB and those that hang out in the Sodua bars. So, it is desire to experiment and have a mix of chicas, not just in terms of their appearance but also their intelligence. Yes, I know I am bit crazy and maybe even stupid. But you know the saying, nothing ventured, nothing gained! And no, I am not looking to fall in have, have a novia, or pay them long distance. I am pretty objective and rational when it comes to decisions about people. And I know myself, or at least think I do!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1487748]That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)[/QUOTE]Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.

Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play.

As the grounds need constant maintenance, I employ a full time employee to do nothing but mow the lawns, trim all the bushes, care for the trees and flowers, etc. He also feeds the dogs and picks up after them so that the grass is always clean. To help keep the house clean, I have a Dominican woman come in three days a week to do the housekeeping and laundry. Both employees make less per month than I paid my cleaning lady in Canada to come in twice a week. And I overpay by a significant amount compared to other ex-pats that I know. The electricity bill is my biggest expense, but if you factor in the fact that I pay no real estate taxes (as I live outside Puerto Plata in an unincorporated section of San Marcos) , what I spend to maintain the house, pay the electricity, pay all the staff expenses, buy gasoline for my generator and new batteries for my inverter every two years, clean and purchase chemicals for the pool and cover the house insurance invoice. All this costs less than I paid for municipal taxes alone back in Montreal. On a middle class budget, to be honest, in the Dominican I live like a rock star.

As for the inconveniences of living in a Third World country, there are trials and tribulations. But life back in Canada has its own issues. I personally would gladly endure the drawbacks of maintaining and dealing with redundant electrical sources in return for never having to deal with winter. Making sure that the inverter works and that I have ample gasoline for the generator in case the batteries die during long power outages are nothing compared to having to deal with winter tires, snow, impossible to traverse roads covered with black ice and, to be honest, the fucking cold.

In Canada I admit that I had a larger supply of art and culture, but even that is less of an issue for someone who returns back to "civilization" about twice a year. Furthermore, as the DR has pretty decent Internet, and my moral compass when it comes to intellectual property is somewhat skewed, I download all of the high-def television and movies that I want and watch them on a large, flat screen TV that is attached to a surround sound system. I can get all the books that I want on my semi-annual visit and e-mail and a VOIP telephone line (Vonage) allow me to keep in constant contact with my family and friends back home.

My personal dietary habits are another reason that I am so gloriously content here. I eat almost no red meat (not any religious fervor, just a matter of taste). But have always loved chicken and fish. The chicken here is awesome, unbelievably fresh and clearly tastes like it is devoid of the steroids and chemicals that are introduced into the North American feed that is used to grow chickens back home. In Canada, avocados were a guilty pleasure that comprised an expensive part of my weekly grocery order, while here they're as cheap as apples back in Canada. I can get all of the fresh fruit that I want, I can grow my own vegetables the way that suits me and most of the imported, canned and packaged goods that cost so much here were never part of my grocery order back in Montreal, regardless of the cost is in either place.

Instead of howling, winter winds from December to April, I now eat outside by the pool every night, even if it's raining (as I have a lovely gazebo) and enjoy the view and the weather. The need to fill my life with artificial stimulation has been overtaken by the simple pleasures of dining with my wife as the sun sets and talking about our day and life in general. All of this can be done on my budget. And easily. Something that would never have been possible in Canada. Had I even wanted to consider a more "civilized" place like Florida, to live even half as well as I do now would have meant that I would have had to work another 10 to 15 years to save up the necessary resources. And what I've learned in the last 6 years in the Dominican is that even if I cannot afford to buy a new car every three years or find the newest tablet or Android phone every 18 months, I now realize that the best things in life are not things. I would not have traded the 15 years that I will end up enjoying my life here in the Dominican for 15 years of hard work back in Montreal only to be able to afford a condo in Florida.

As you can all surmise, I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty.

And this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we all enjoy when it comes to chicas.

For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1490208]1. I agree with you and have adjusted my thinking accordingly.[/QUOTE]Like others, I am a little surprised that after your long travel experience, you sound this paranoid.

1) I used to live in Singapore in a gated expat community and my 3 bedroom apartment with garden got broken into and burgled. Interestingly, the cops got me back a few things from the loot. After about a year. This can happen in all places as you mention but a little bit of prudent behavior can go a long way I presume, whether you are in Four Seasons or in a shack. One of which is keeping your wits about by not getting stone drunk. In a club or in your room with someone.

2) Paying the girl when she gets to your place is the best bet as others stated. I have paid people by sending money in advance but that is a more complex venture. Certainly do-able but also remember no guarantees she will show up after getting the money. It happened to me. Yes! Reagan said it best. Speaking of cold war era: trust but verify!

2) The DR is like any other place and you seem to know South America which was not the case with me when I first landed there. There are plenty of poor people but they are not all thieves. As a matter of fact I am not sure if a bulky 17" laptop is at all attractive as most are more used to cell phones and now tablets etc. You see, email is not very popular but texting is. In any case, like most people here on the forum, I leave my netbook on top of the table and never has this been touched even by the cleaning persons.

3) On many occasions, I have left a woman inside the room who wanted to watch TV, while I was out. And there was no safe inside the room but I never leave anything around to tempt anyone either. Obviously this after I know the person better and not with a first timer. It is a judgment call but I presume, you have plenty of that given your life / travel experiences. Treating the other person with kindness / respect has always gone a long way for me. In the DR or in Indonesia or in Oslo or Frankfurt.

Enjoy the trip!

[QUOTE=Haven123; 1490208]1. I agree with you and have adjusted my thinking accordingly.

2. I am going to be in the area for 4 weeks, including stays at a resort in Playa Doradas and maybe Cabarete. So, I need to mix it up some, with a few non-pros (at least ones I believe are non-pros) , ones I connect with, have spoken with and have messaged back and forth for weeks. One coming from San Crustobal who has never asked me for a dime and is studying civil engineering, but also a model and works the booths at trade shows. I am sure she is not innocent or inexperienced, but at least she has never asked me for anything. I believe legit. Another who is a medical student in Santiago. Only wants money for transport. I have perused their Facebook sites well and feel they are not lying and are legit. That does not mean that I could be wrong! I just am the type that likes legitimate college girls who are intelligent, have a brain, study etc. Not in lieu of, but in addition to the chicas at BB and those that hang out in the Sodua bars. So, it is desire to experiment and have a mix of chicas, not just in terms of their appearance but also their intelligence. Yes, I know I am bit crazy and maybe even stupid. But you know the saying, nothing ventured, nothing gained! And no, I am not looking to fall in have, have a novia, or pay them long distance. I am pretty objective and rational when it comes to decisions about people. And I know myself, or at least think I do![/QUOTE]Never thought you are crazy or stupid. I know you could teach many of us here, certainly myself, a few things about life and wise decisions.

Four weeks is a good stretch and it is great idea to mix it up and try different experiences. But if you have to start fussing about how the chicas can get to a location it suggests you are not dealing with "intelligent chicas who have a brain". It would be fair comment about some innocent from the campo who has never met a gringo, but you won't meet one like that on Cupid and they wouldn't be able to read or write, let alone study at college.

The other point is, if you are not looking "to fall in love, have a novia, or pay them long distance", what is in it for them? You don't seem the type of guy who would deliberately con a chica with promises for the future only to leave her high and dry. The only sensible answer I can think of is you give them a good time (but they would all have a better time at home with Dominicans of their own age) and MONEY. And a chica who travels a distance to sleep with a middle-aged man (who has no interest in pursuing a longer relationship) for money is a puta in my book.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1490311]The other point is, if you are not looking "to fall in love, have a novia, or pay them long distance", what is in it for them? You don't seem the type of guy who would deliberately con a chica with promises for the future only to leave her high and dry. The only sensible answer I can think of is you give them a good time (but they would all have a better time at home with Dominicans of their own age) and MONEY. And a chica who travels a distance to sleep with a middle-aged man (who has no interest in pursuing a longer relationship) for money is a puta in my book.[/QUOTE]You make some excellent and logical points Charles! Okay, I will reflect on all of that some more! And, no I am not looking to con anyone. I have made things clear about my intentions. Told them matrimonio is not an option and not included in my Cupido profile etc. But yes for showing them a good time, shopping with them and gifts I am bringing for them etc! And, no I Not expect them to fall in love with me either. I think just 2-3 days of fun together. And yes they probably are doing because I can spend some dinero, and maybe a slightly different experience than they are used to with their local guys.

Hey guys,

Haven't posted here in a while. Took a break from the DR and made a few runs at Colombia. Had a great time, please check out my report on the Medellin thread if you get a chance. I am reaching out to you guys to see if anyone has stayed at any of these villas or condos from this site and if so could recommend one that is chica friendly. Love a few of the places in gated communities but wondering whether they might have a problem with me bringing chicas into the community.

BTW will be there in Sosua with my buddy in early December and if anyone is going to be around would love to meet up and have a few beers and swap a few stories. Here is the website which I got from either this or the Santo Domingo thread.Has anyone on the board stayed at a place on this website?

[url]http://www.homeaway.com/search/dominican-republic/sosua/region:7950/minBedrooms/2/page:3[/url]

Pura Vida,

C-Rex

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42; 1490250]Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.

Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play.

As the grounds need constant maintenance, I employ a full time employee to do nothing but mow the lawns, trim all the bushes, care for the trees and flowers, etc. He also feeds the dogs and picks up after them so that the grass is always clean. To help keep the house clean, I have a Dominican woman come in three days a week to do the housekeeping and laundry. Both employees make less per month than I paid my cleaning lady in Canada to come in twice a week. And I overpay by a significant amount compared to other ex-pats that I know. The electricity bill is my biggest expense, but if you factor in the fact that I pay no real estate taxes (as I live outside Puerto Plata in an unincorporated section of San Marcos) , what I spend to maintain the house, pay the electricity, pay all the staff expenses, buy gasoline for my generator and new batteries for my inverter every two years, clean and purchase chemicals for the pool and cover the house insurance invoice. All this costs less than I paid for municipal taxes alone back in Montreal. On a middle class budget, to be honest, in the Dominican I live like a rock star.

As for the inconveniences of living in a Third World country, there are trials and tribulations. But life back in Canada has its own issues. I personally would gladly endure the drawbacks of maintaining and dealing with redundant electrical sources in return for never having to deal with winter. Making sure that the inverter works and that I have ample gasoline for the generator in case the batteries die during long power outages are nothing compared to having to deal with winter tires, snow, impossible to traverse roads covered with black ice and, to be honest, the fucking cold.

In Canada I admit that I had a larger supply of art and culture, but even that is less of an issue for someone who returns back to "civilization" about twice a year. Furthermore, as the DR has pretty decent Internet, and my moral compass when it comes to intellectual property is somewhat skewed, I download all of the high-def television and movies that I want and watch them on a large, flat screen TV that is attached to a surround sound system. I can get all the books that I want on my semi-annual visit and e-mail and a VOIP telephone line (Vonage) allow me to keep in constant contact with my family and friends back home.

My personal dietary habits are another reason that I am so gloriously content here. I eat almost no red meat (not any religious fervor, just a matter of taste). But have always loved chicken and fish. The chicken here is awesome, unbelievably fresh and clearly tastes like it is devoid of the steroids and chemicals that are introduced into the North American feed that is used to grow chickens back home. In Canada, avocados were a guilty pleasure that comprised an expensive part of my weekly grocery order, while here they're as cheap as apples back in Canada. I can get all of the fresh fruit that I want, I can grow my own vegetables the way that suits me and most of the imported, canned and packaged goods that cost so much here were never part of my grocery order back in Montreal, regardless of the cost is in either place.

Instead of howling, winter winds from December to April, I now eat outside by the pool every night, even if it's raining (as I have a lovely gazebo) and enjoy the view and the weather. The need to fill my life with artificial stimulation has been overtaken by the simple pleasures of dining with my wife as the sun sets and talking about our day and life in general. All of this can be done on my budget. And easily. Something that would never have been possible in Canada. Had I even wanted to consider a more "civilized" place like Florida, to live even half as well as I do now would have meant that I would have had to work another 10 to 15 years to save up the necessary resources. And what I've learned in the last 6 years in the Dominican is that even if I cannot afford to buy a new car every three years or find the newest tablet or Android phone every 18 months, I now realize that the best things in life are not things. I would not have traded the 15 years that I will end up enjoying my life here in the Dominican for 15 years of hard work back in Montreal only to be able to afford a condo in Florida.

As you can all surmise, I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty.

And this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we all enjoy when it comes to chicas.

For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.[/QUOTE]You took the words right off my.keyboard. It doesn't get better than this-up North.

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42;1490250]. here [avocados are] as cheap as apples back in Canada.[/QUOTE]Yes, but apples are as expensive as avocados were back in the UK. (And they are crap).

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42; 1490250]Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in.

For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.[/QUOTE]That was a lovely note. Insightful and contemplative. I certainly would not care for one dog let alone 8 (I presume there is a security angle there) dogs or a large pool but it set me up longing for the simple pleasures. Food to start with.

Question: How risky is it even if your property is behind high walls. To be perceived prosperous?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42;1490250]Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR,For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.[/QUOTE]Sounds great, P. I am an American planning a similar retirement strategy in the PI in a few years. Curious, you don't say anything about the DR women. Do you have a bevy of beauties to come visit you?

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42;1490250]I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty. For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.[/QUOTE]Great way to put things in perspective!

A friend of mine told me that there is a new h00ker bar or strip club on the malecon somewhere, anybody hear of it?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1493623]A friend of mine told me that there is a new h00ker bar or strip club on the malecon somewhere, anybody hear of it?[/QUOTE]Unless it is brand new, the only one I know is "The Secret Nightclub". It opened about three months ago, and is not exactly on the Malecon but on the left 50 yards going south up Francisco Caamano (former Avenida Colon).

I only entered once, a couple of months ago with visiting Brits. It is like Doctor Who's Tardis, much bigger inside than it looks outside, but that was not a good thing as it only emphasised the desolate emptiness of the place. We went about 11. 00pm on Saturday night so you would think that would be peak time for them. We were the only customers. There were only two chicas, one butt-ugly, the other doable if you were desperate but there is never a need to be that desperate even in Puerto Plata. The place is painted all black with the cheapest possible furnishing and decor.

We quickly left for our first visit to the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen) , two hundred yards further south on the right. That was closed at about 11. 30pm on a Saturday night. Strange?

Then to D'Esteban (formerly Babylon). Again, totally deserted so we walked straight out. The waiter asked us to wait a minute and he would dig some chicas out from the back rooms but I never like to do that. Firstly I don't like to feel obligated and second if they are so demoralized that they cannot show in the club during what was always peak hours of the week, it doesn't bode well.

Finally to old reliable, La Embajada (formerly El Consulado. I guess they thought that having paid for a paint-job they would award themselves a promotion). As ever that was packed and lively, with reasonably priced drinks. I used to live nearby and popped in several times a week looking for fresh meat. I picked up some nice and cheap newbies to the game there but if you just go once on the off-chance you are likely to see only the sort of ageing fat uglies that Dominican tigueres seem to prefer, unless you are very lucky. We didn't stay long enough to see if they still did the hourly strip spot. I guess so. Best I ever saw there was the chica who could blow smoke rings out of her fanny.

Although just one evening could be an unrepresentative sample it does accord with my assessment that the club scene in Pto Pta is dead, at least for gringos. There is always Cristal, but who wants to pay those prices and suffer that deafening racket?

But for picking up non-pros and semi-pros, Puerto Plata knocks Sosua out of the park. That is why I chose to live here, not there.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1493788]Unless it is brand new, the only one I know is "The Secret Nightclub". It opened about three months ago, and is not exactly on the Malecon but on the left 50 yards going south up Francisco Caamano (former Avenida Colon).[/QUOTE]That is the place, a couple of my friends were going to make the trip tonight from Sosua to check it out but I told them not to bother. Thanks as always Sir Charles.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1493807]That is the place, a couple of my friends were going to make the trip tonight from Sosua to check it out but I told them not to bother.[/QUOTE]Always possible it has picked up a bit, but I cannot imagine it ever being worth a trip from Sosua.

But maybe Frannie or Riki Rapido will give it a glowing report?

It's a precious resource that many nurture as best they can. Bravo. My thoughts exactly.

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42; 1490250]Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.

Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42;1490250]For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.[/QUOTE]Nice report

I'm not ready to make similar move yet.

However, may be in a few years I will be considering spending 6-9 months per year in DR.

Any recommendations on how to explore such option during short trips?

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42; 1490250]Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.

Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play.

As the grounds need constant maintenance, I employ a full time employee to do nothing but mow the lawns, trim all the bushes, care for the trees and flowers, etc. He also feeds the dogs and picks up after them so that the grass is always clean. To help keep the house clean, I have a Dominican woman come in three days a week to do the housekeeping and laundry. Both employees make less per month than I paid my cleaning lady in Canada to come in twice a week. And I overpay by a significant amount compared to other ex-pats that I know. The electricity bill is my biggest expense, but if you factor in the fact that I pay no real estate taxes (as I live outside Puerto Plata in an unincorporated section of San Marcos) , what I spend to maintain the house, pay the electricity, pay all the staff expenses, buy gasoline for my generator and new batteries for my inverter every two years, clean and purchase chemicals for the pool and cover the house insurance invoice. All this costs less than I paid for municipal taxes alone back in Montreal. On a middle class budget, to be honest, in the Dominican I live like a rock star.

As for the inconveniences of living in a Third World country, there are trials and tribulations. But life back in Canada has its own issues. I personally would gladly endure the drawbacks of maintaining and dealing with redundant electrical sources in return for never having to deal with winter. Making sure that the inverter works and that I have ample gasoline for the generator in case the batteries die during long power outages are nothing compared to having to deal with winter tires, snow, impossible to traverse roads covered with black ice and, to be honest, the fucking cold.

In Canada I admit that I had a larger supply of art and culture, but even that is less of an issue for someone who returns back to "civilization" about twice a year. Furthermore, as the DR has pretty decent Internet, and my moral compass when it comes to intellectual property is somewhat skewed, I download all of the high-def television and movies that I want and watch them on a large, flat screen TV that is attached to a surround sound system. I can get all the books that I want on my semi-annual visit and e-mail and a VOIP telephone line (Vonage) allow me to keep in constant contact with my family and friends back home.

My personal dietary habits are another reason that I am so gloriously content here. I eat almost no red meat (not any religious fervor, just a matter of taste). But have always loved chicken and fish. The chicken here is awesome, unbelievably fresh and clearly tastes like it is devoid of the steroids and chemicals that are introduced into the North American feed that is used to grow chickens back home. In Canada, avocados were a guilty pleasure that comprised an expensive part of my weekly grocery order, while here they're as cheap as apples back in Canada. I can get all of the fresh fruit that I want, I can grow my own vegetables the way that suits me and most of the imported, canned and packaged goods that cost so much here were never part of my grocery order back in Montreal, regardless of the cost is in either place.

Instead of howling, winter winds from December to April, I now eat outside by the pool every night, even if it's raining (as I have a lovely gazebo) and enjoy the view and the weather. The need to fill my life with artificial stimulation has been overtaken by the simple pleasures of dining with my wife as the sun sets and talking about our day and life in general. All of this can be done on my budget. And easily. Something that would never have been possible in Canada. Had I even wanted to consider a more "civilized" place like Florida, to live even half as well as I do now would have meant that I would have had to work another 10 to 15 years to save up the necessary resources. And what I've learned in the last 6 years in the Dominican is that even if I cannot afford to buy a new car every three years or find the newest tablet or Android phone every 18 months, I now realize that the best things in life are not things. I would not have traded the 15 years that I will end up enjoying my life here in the Dominican for 15 years of hard work back in Montreal only to be able to afford a condo in Florida.

As you can all surmise, I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty.

And this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we all enjoy when it comes to chicas.

For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.[/QUOTE]

Guys, in a few days, I'm going to stay at Lifestyle Tropical again (can't beat these crazy rates). I have been building courage to go ahead and rent a car this time, but chickened out in the end. Hearing all these old horror stories mixed with new horror stories have convinced me not to ask for more aggravation for my own money. So I would appreciate if you could give me a few pointers.

What are the current "legit" cab fares for these destinations and back:

1. Puerto Plata airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)

2. Lifestyle (Ocean World). Field of Dream

3. Lifestyle. Sosua (the beach area)

4. Lifestyle. Aerial tram.

Does anyone know if I can rent an ST room at Field of Dream? Also if you know a reliable cabby please let me know too. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Xpartan; 1497146]Guys, in a few days, I'm going to stay at Lifestyle Tropical again (can't beat these crazy rates). I have been building courage to go ahead and rent a car this time, but chickened out in the end. Hearing all these old horror stories mixed with new horror stories have convinced me not to ask for more aggravation for my own money. So I would appreciate if you could give me a few pointers.

What are the current "legit" cab fares for these destinations and back:

1. Puerto Plata airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)

2. Lifestyle (Ocean World). Field of Dream

3. Lifestyle. Sosua (the beach area)

4. Lifestyle. Aerial tram.

Does anyone know if I can rent an ST room at Field of Dream? Also if you know a reliable cabby please let me know too. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can rent a room ST at FoD if one is unoccupied. Normally not a problem except on American Public Holidays, SuperBowl, etc. Last I heard the rate was 800 pesos.

There are no fixed rates for cabs and they don't have meters. You have to negotiate. Expensive way to travel for a single person. (Cheap enough with four sharing as they charge per mile, not per person). Then you have to add the charges for short-time rooms on top.

Are you sure it wouldn't have been cheaper just to stay at Field of Dreams? Certainly more fun. From Field of Dreams you could do Sosua by publico for 50 pesos each way. From Lifestyle by private cab, maybe 1500 pesos each way.

You don't mention Blackbeards. That is quite near Cofresi.

A much debated topic. First, Blackbeards (BB) and Field of Dreams (FOD) have rooms to rent short time if available. I have done that at both places. In my case I rented a room for 24 hours (day rate) so I could come and go as I pleased. It was a nice break.

I usually rent a car and have done so over 20 times in the past 9 years. I like the freedom vs the risk. That said I have also enjoyed not being at the mercy of the Taxi Cab driver. At BB's a taxi costs more than anywhere I have been but the flip side is they are there any time you need one and I have found them to be very reliable. At FOD's the cost of a Taxi is less expensive as they will negotiate plus as Charles said there are other transportation options.

Here is my take on driving in POP. From the Airport to FOD very easy low risk on the main roads during the day. From FOD"s to BB's can at times be crazy as there is a lot of traffic most of the time, many roads merging, numerous traffic lights, motorcycles and pedestrians. At times their behavior would suggest that they have a death wish. From BB's west toward Ocean World not very stressful.

I am willing to take the challenge of driving during the day and at night only if I have not or will not be drinking. With alcohol the risk is far to great vs. The reward. When I look at the cost of renting a car and making sure I have the extra insurance I budget $55. 00 per day. It may cost less but that is the figure I use. Then I try and ball park the daily expense using a taxi would be and the number of days. I also look at the normal cost of transportation to and from the Airport. This is normally $50. 00 (I maybe off here a little and it is less if you are traveling with others) each way if I am at BB's less other places. The last part is how familiar you are with directions to and from various places and your Spanish if you need directions.

Just some things to think about.

[QUOTE=Traveler04; 1497338]A much debated topic. First, Blackbeards (BB) and Field of Dreams (FOD) have rooms to rent short time if available. I have done that at both places. In my case I rented a room for 24 hours (day rate) so I could come and go as I pleased. It was a nice break.

I usually rent a car and have done so over 20 times in the past 9 years. I like the freedom vs the risk. That said I have also enjoyed not being at the mercy of the Taxi Cab driver. At BB's a taxi costs more than anywhere I have been but the flip side is they are there any time you need one and I have found them to be very reliable. At FOD's the cost of a Taxi is less expensive as they will negotiate plus as Charles said there are other transportation options.

Here is my take on driving in POP. From the Airport to FOD very easy low risk on the main roads during the day. From FOD"s to BB's can at times be crazy as there is a lot of traffic most of the time, many roads merging, numerous traffic lights, motorcycles and pedestrians. At times their behavior would suggest that they have a death wish. From BB's west toward Ocean World not very stressful.

I am willing to take the challenge of driving during the day and at night only if I have not or will not be drinking. With alcohol the risk is far to great vs. The reward. When I look at the cost of renting a car and making sure I have the extra insurance I budget $55. 00 per day. It may cost less but that is the figure I use. Then I try and ball park the daily expense using a taxi would be and the number of days. I also look at the normal cost of transportation to and from the Airport. This is normally $50. 00 (I maybe off here a little and it is less if you are traveling with others) each way if I am at BB's less other places. The last part is how familiar you are with directions to and from various places and your Spanish if you need directions.

Just some things to think about.[/QUOTE]I have always rented a car. Met normal girls at many places and had a great time with them. Gives me the freedom to go to local places. Otherwise you are stuck in Sosua. Drving is not dangerous if you are used to drive in New york.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1497359]I have always rented a car. Met normal girls at many places and had a great time with them. Gives me the freedom to go to local places. Otherwise you are stuck in Sosua. Drving is not dangerous if you are used to drive in New york.[/QUOTE]Sammon, I'd almost worked up the courage to rent a car, but then I started reading stuff again, and talking to people, and then a Dominican guy from Cabarete who lives here in New York said that I've got to be crazy to drive on the North Coast. I just don't know if I really need the aggravation for my own money.

[QUOTE=Traveler04; 1497338]A much debated topic. First, Blackbeards (BB) and Field of Dreams (FOD) have rooms to rent short time if available. I have done that at both places. In my case I rented a room for 24 hours (day rate) so I could come and go as I pleased. It was a nice break.

I usually rent a car and have done so over 20 times in the past 9 years. I like the freedom vs the risk. That said I have also enjoyed not being at the mercy of the Taxi Cab driver. At BB's a taxi costs more than anywhere I have been but the flip side is they are there any time you need one and I have found them to be very reliable. At FOD's the cost of a Taxi is less expensive as they will negotiate plus as Charles said there are other transportation options.

Here is my take on driving in POP. From the Airport to FOD very easy low risk on the main roads during the day. From FOD"s to BB's can at times be crazy as there is a lot of traffic most of the time, many roads merging, numerous traffic lights, motorcycles and pedestrians. At times their behavior would suggest that they have a death wish. From BB's west toward Ocean World not very stressful.

I am willing to take the challenge of driving during the day and at night only if I have not or will not be drinking. With alcohol the risk is far to great vs. The reward. When I look at the cost of renting a car and making sure I have the extra insurance I budget $55. 00 per day. It may cost less but that is the figure I use. Then I try and ball park the daily expense using a taxi would be and the number of days. I also look at the normal cost of transportation to and from the Airport. This is normally $50. 00 (I maybe off here a little and it is less if you are traveling with others) each way if I am at BB's less other places. The last part is how familiar you are with directions to and from various places and your Spanish if you need directions.

Just some things to think about.[/QUOTE]Traveler, thanks for detailed answer. I also figured about $60 a day including that get-out-of-jail-insurance, never can remember, Conductar something. Since we don't expect leaving the resort every day (maybe 4 days) , then in a week we'd have paid about $400 for 3 days of car travel minus $100 for the rides to and from POP.

I think some of these trips would be relatively easy to use a collectivo (or is it gua-gua?). I remember it was easy to flag down a minivan at the resort to Puerto Plata, and I had it all to myself. Then another one to Sosua where they would keep placing more and more people on my lap was nothing short of torture.

So, financially, it might be a wash, and by renting a car I would essentially be paying for freedom from extortionist local cabbies. Then again, it would also take away a freedom to have a drink or two whenever I feel like it.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1497197]You can rent a room ST at FoD if one is unoccupied. Normally not a problem except on American Public Holidays, SuperBowl, etc. Last I heard the rate was 800 pesos.

There are no fixed rates for cabs and they don't have meters. You have to negotiate. Expensive way to travel for a single person. (Cheap enough with four sharing as they charge per mile, not per person). Then you have to add the charges for short-time rooms on top.

Are you sure it wouldn't have been cheaper just to stay at Field of Dreams? Certainly more fun. From Field of Dreams you could do Sosua by publico for 50 pesos each way. From Lifestyle by private cab, maybe 1500 pesos each way.

You don't mention Blackbeards. That is quite near Cofresi.[/QUOTE]Charles, I didn't mention BB because I know how to get there (you helped me last year). I'm planning 4 trips total: To BB, Fields of Dream, Sosua (to enjoy the beach and maybe score an ST with a girl locally, and to ride a tram to the top of Isabelle de Torres (forgive me if my spelling is wrong). Maybe I could combine a tram with the visit to FOD? I realize I'd have to negotiate, but I just want to know my options. Whenever possible, I'd like to avoid motoconchos, 'cause they really give me chills.

I don't think it would be cheaper to stay at FOD or elsewhere. I'm paying $18 at Lifestyle, and that includes all food and top-shelf drinks. And such an easy access to alcohol means there is a still a chance to score with a gringo girl (well, woman) even for an ogre like me.

Where is the easiest stop to change money on the way from the airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)?

Thanks a lot for your tips, guys.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497482]I think some of these trips would be relatively easy to use a collectivo (or is it gua-gua?). I remember it was easy to flag down a minivan at the resort to Puerto Plata, and I had it all to myself. Then another one to Sosua where hey would keep placing more and more people on my lap was nothing short of torture.[/QUOTE]Where possible take a carrito publico (shared compact car) rather than a guagua (small bus or people-carrier van). They are quicker and don't make so many stops. If you take one from the terminus in Puerto Plata or Sosua you can buy two seats (preferably the whole front seat) which will solve your squashing problem. Cost you double but still ridiculously cheap compared with a private taxi. Of course you cannot do that coming from Cofresi but that is just a short trip anyway.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497482]Maybe I could combine a tram with the visit to FOD?[/QUOTE]I never heard "tram" before. Locally it is called the Teleferico. You will need a taxi or moto to get there.

Yes, it would be ideal to combine that with a visit to Field of Dreams because the best time to go up the Teleferico is normally early morning, while FOD is dead in the mornings (and often dead in the afternoons too).

Get to the Teleferico half-hour before the first ride or you might be stuck in a queue with dozens of Dominican children. If you think a packed guagua is torture, wait until you experience that! Do not go up the Teleferico unless it is a mainly clear morning and the top is completely clear. There is nothing to see up there, so the only attraction is the ride and the view from the top. Your time and money will be wasted if there is cloud up there. If it is clear before 9. 00am it will likely stay clear for a couple of hours. Later in the day the sky can change in minutes. If you take a chica, do not let her near the souvenir shop. Everything costs double what it does in the town below. It if is fresh below it can be quite chilly up top so take an extra layer.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497482]I'd like to avoid motoconchos, 'cause they really give me chills.[/QUOTE]They are not so bad. I must had 6000/7000 rides by now and only one accident, and that was not with a licensed one.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497482]I don't think it would be cheaper to stay at FOD or elsewhere. I'm paying $18 at Lifestyle, and that includes all food and top-shelf drinks.[/QUOTE]You knocked my comment out of the ball-park with that price. How can they make that pay? Hoping to sell time-shares?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497482]Where is the easiest stop to change money on the way from the airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)?[/QUOTE]There is a branch of RUSA on your route. It is on the main road on the corner of the road leading to the barrio of Padre Granero. Easy to spot because it is to the right of the big green space in front of the big baseball stadium.

Only problem is, it is a small branch so may not observe long opening hours. If you go past during office hours you will be alright. They may ask to see your passport. The girl once told me they stay open to 7. 00pm but I wouldn't bank on it. Reputable company and the favourite with ex-pats.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1497359]I have always rented a car. Met normal girls at many places and had a great time with them. Gives me the freedom to go to local places. Otherwise you are stuck in Sosua. Drving is not dangerous if you are used to drive in New york.[/QUOTE]I agree totally. Just rent a car bro. The trick is to minimize your driving, because like other members have said, you don't want to be tempted to drive drunk, or be the victim of a crazy motorcyclist.

I used the car to move my home base every 2 nights. The DR isn't THAT interesting as a tourist destination. Best to give yourself the flexibility to move around and try different things (and venues!).

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1497552]Get to the Teleferico half-hour before the first ride or you might be stuck in a queue with dozens of Dominican children. If you think a packed guagua is torture, wait until you experience that![/QUOTE]I generally find the Dominican schoolchildren to be very charming and well-behaved.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1497552]Where possible take a carrito publico (shared compact car) rather than a guagua (small bus or people-carrier van). They are quicker and don't make so many stops. If you take one from the terminus in Puerto Plata or Sosua you can buy two seats (preferably the whole front seat) which will solve your squashing problem. Cost you double but still ridiculously cheap compared with a private taxi. Of course you cannot do that coming from Cofresi but that is just a short trip anyway.

I never heard "tram" before. Locally it is called the Teleferico. You will need a taxi or moto to get there.

Yes, it would be ideal to combine that with a visit to Field of Dreams because the best time to go up the Teleferico is normally early morning, while FOD is dead in the mornings (and often dead in the afternoons too).

Get to the Teleferico half-hour before the first ride or you might be stuck in a queue with dozens of Dominican children. If you think a packed guagua is torture, wait until you experience that! Do not go up the Teleferico unless it is a mainly clear morning and the top is completely clear. There is nothing to see up there, so the only attraction is the ride and the view from the top. Your time and money will be wasted if there is cloud up there. If it is clear before 9. 00am it will likely stay clear for a couple of hours. Later in the day the sky can change in minutes. If you take a chica, do not let her near the souvenir shop. Everything costs double what it does in the town below. It if is fresh below it can be quite chilly up top so take an extra layer.

They are not so bad. I must had 6000/7000 rides by now and only one accident, and that was not with a licensed one.

You knocked my comment out of the ball-park with that price. How can they make that pay? Hoping to sell time-shares?

There is a branch of RUSA on your route. It is on the main road on the corner of the road leading to the barrio of Padre Granero. Easy to spot because it is to the right of the big green space in front of the big baseball stadium.

Only problem is, it is a small branch so may not observe long opening hours. If you go past during office hours you will be alright. They may ask to see your passport. The girl once told me they stay open to 7. 00pm but I wouldn't bank on it. Reputable company and the favourite with ex-pats.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for the tips.

1. To answer your question about Lifestyle. Yes, they are hoping to sell timeshare, and they can get very aggressive about it. Fortunately, I'm also very aggressive about making them take no for an answer. They have these ridiculous sales a few times a year. The best way to learn about them is to sign up for Travelzoo newsletter.

A couple more questions:

1. How can you tell whether a motoconcho is licensed or not?

2. When you say terminus in PP, is it that place near the hospital where they collect passengers to Sosua? Should I grab a moto or a cab to Telerifica there too?

3. Are these carrito publico marked in any way? Can I flag them on the street?

Thanks again. Your help is much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497709]How can you tell whether a motoconcho is licensed or not?[/QUOTE]In Puerto Plata, they wear yellow plastic "waistcoats" with big numbers. Occasionally orange or even green. In the hot weather they sometimes wrap them round their handlebars as, being plastic, the sweat builds up inside. Of course it is no guarantee, as anyone could steal or borrow a jacket or, especially, continue to wear one once their licence has expired, but it helps to cut out a lot of the scabs.

They have just started to introduce this system in Sosua but I understand they are letting the sponsors choose different colors, which partly undermines the effectiveness.

Those who only know Sosua are rightly apprehensive of motos. I find the ones in Pto Pta to be generally a better breed. Rarely overcharge and more careful and helpful. Given a choice I go for an older one, preferably with a helmet and wing-mirrors.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497709]When you say terminus in PP, is it that place near the hospital where they collect passengers to Sosua? Should I grab a moto or a cab to Telerifica there too?[/QUOTE]LOL."Telerifica" would be a good name for a promotional campaign.

Yes that is the place to catch a publico to FoD, the airport or Sosua, but not to the Teleferico.

From Cofesi you will need a private cab all the way, or take a publico, get out at the entrance road, and then take a moto up the hill to the Teleferico.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;1497709]Are these carrito publico marked in any way? Can I flag them on the street?[/QUOTE]Yes, flag them down on the street. If full, they will whizz past. They are various colors according to which franchise and route. They all have little plastic name boxes on the roof. But so do some private cabs, so if one stops and is empty of passengers check it is a publico and not a private cab.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1497766]In Puerto Plata, they wear yellow plastic "waistcoats" with big numbers. Occasionally orange or even green. In the hot weather they sometimes wrap them round their handlebars as, being plastic, the sweat builds up inside. Of course it is no guarantee, as anyone could steal or borrow a jacket or, especially, continue to wear one once their licence has expired, but it helps to cut out a lot of the scabs.

They have just started to introduce this system in Sosua but I understand they are letting the sponsors choose different colors, which partly undermines the effectiveness.

Those who only know Sosua are rightly apprehensive of motos. I find the ones in Pto Pta to be generally a better breed. Rarely overcharge and more careful and helpful. Given a choice I go for an older one, preferably with a helmet and wing-mirrors.

LOL."Telerifica" would be a good name for a promotional campaign.

Yes that is the place to catch a publico to FoD, the airport or Sosua, but not to the Teleferico.

From Cofesi you will need a private cab all the way, or take a publico, get out at the entrance road, and then take a moto up the hill to the Teleferico.

Yes, flag them down on the street. If full, they will whizz past. They are various colors according to which franchise and route. They all have little plastic name boxes on the roof. But so do some private cabs, so if one stops and is empty of passengers check it is a publico and not a private cab.[/QUOTE]Thanks again, and yes, that would be a great promo name.

Thank you so much for taking time to write about your experience moving to the DR, Phaedrus42.

I am too young to leave the rat race, but your story sure offers a different perspective at life.

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42; 1490250]Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.

Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play.

As the grounds need constant maintenance, I employ a full time employee to do nothing but mow the lawns, trim all the bushes, care for the trees and flowers, etc. He also feeds the dogs and picks up after them so that the grass is always clean. To help keep the house clean, I have a Dominican woman come in three days a week to do the housekeeping and laundry. Both employees make less per month than I paid my cleaning lady in Canada to come in twice a week. And I overpay by a significant amount compared to other ex-pats that I know. The electricity bill is my biggest expense, but if you factor in the fact that I pay no real estate taxes (as I live outside Puerto Plata in an unincorporated section of San Marcos) , what I spend to maintain the house, pay the electricity, pay all the staff expenses, buy gasoline for my generator and new batteries for my inverter every two years, clean and purchase chemicals for the pool and cover the house insurance invoice. All this costs less than I paid for municipal taxes alone back in Montreal. On a middle class budget, to be honest, in the Dominican I live like a rock star.

As for the inconveniences of living in a Third World country, there are trials and tribulations. But life back in Canada has its own issues. I personally would gladly endure the drawbacks of maintaining and dealing with redundant electrical sources in return for never having to deal with winter. Making sure that the inverter works and that I have ample gasoline for the generator in case the batteries die during long power outages are nothing compared to having to deal with winter tires, snow, impossible to traverse roads covered with black ice and, to be honest, the fucking cold.

In Canada I admit that I had a larger supply of art and culture, but even that is less of an issue for someone who returns back to "civilization" about twice a year. Furthermore, as the DR has pretty decent Internet, and my moral compass when it comes to intellectual property is somewhat skewed, I download all of the high-def television and movies that I want and watch them on a large, flat screen TV that is attached to a surround sound system. I can get all the books that I want on my semi-annual visit and e-mail and a VOIP telephone line (Vonage) allow me to keep in constant contact with my family and friends back home.

My personal dietary habits are another reason that I am so gloriously content here. I eat almost no red meat (not any religious fervor, just a matter of taste). But have always loved chicken and fish. The chicken here is awesome, unbelievably fresh and clearly tastes like it is devoid of the steroids and chemicals that are introduced into the North American feed that is used to grow chickens back home. In Canada, avocados were a guilty pleasure that comprised an expensive part of my weekly grocery order, while here they're as cheap as apples back in Canada. I can get all of the fresh fruit that I want, I can grow my own vegetables the way that suits me and most of the imported, canned and packaged goods that cost so much here were never part of my grocery order back in Montreal, regardless of the cost is in either place.

Instead of howling, winter winds from December to April, I now eat outside by the pool every night, even if it's raining (as I have a lovely gazebo) and enjoy the view and the weather. The need to fill my life with artificial stimulation has been overtaken by the simple pleasures of dining with my wife as the sun sets and talking about our day and life in general. All of this can be done on my budget. And easily. Something that would never have been possible in Canada. Had I even wanted to consider a more "civilized" place like Florida, to live even half as well as I do now would have meant that I would have had to work another 10 to 15 years to save up the necessary resources. And what I've learned in the last 6 years in the Dominican is that even if I cannot afford to buy a new car every three years or find the newest tablet or Android phone every 18 months, I now realize that the best things in life are not things. I would not have traded the 15 years that I will end up enjoying my life here in the Dominican for 15 years of hard work back in Montreal only to be able to afford a condo in Florida.

As you can all surmise, I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty.

And this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we all enjoy when it comes to chicas.

For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.[/QUOTE]

I was on Skype firming up plans with one of my chicas last night, I am arriving tomorrow and then we are heading to either Cabarete or Samana, she tells me to bring warm clothes because it has been cold out, hahaha. Honey, if you want to experience cold you will have to see what us poor bastards in the northeast USA know as cold.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1505212]I was on Skype firming up plans with one of my chicas last night, I am arriving tomorrow and then we are heading to either Cabarete or Samana, she tells me to bring warm clothes because it has been cold out, hahaha. Honey, if you want to experience cold you will have to see what us poor bastards in the northeast USA know as cold.[/QUOTE]Yes, it has been a bit chilly, and she is right, you might need a jacket or long pants late at night or early in the day, so that was thoughtful advice. Bring your warm pajama pants! Of course it is not cold as in New England, but there is nothing worse than being uncomfortable because you brought the wrong clothes.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1497766]In Puerto Plata, they wear yellow plastic "waistcoats" with big numbers. Occasionally orange or even green. In the hot weather they sometimes wrap them round their handlebars as, being plastic, the sweat builds up inside. Of course it is no guarantee, as anyone could steal or borrow a jacket or, especially, continue to wear one once their licence has expired, but it helps to cut out a lot of the scabs.

Those who only know Sosua are rightly apprehensive of motos. I find the ones in Pto Pta to be generally a better breed. Rarely overcharge and more careful and helpful. Given a choice I go for an older one, preferably with a helmet and wing-mirrors.

Yes, flag them down on the street. If full, they will whizz past. They are various colors according to which franchise and route. They all have little plastic name boxes on the roof. But so do some private cabs, so if one stops and is empty of passengers check it is a publico and not a private cab.[/QUOTE]Based on my last trip to PP, there is no way in hell I would ride on the back of a motorcycle there. Those motorcyclists are absolutely crazy. I also find it difficult to understand how so many people on the forum can advise newbies to never rent a car because of the crazy motorcyclists, and then turn around and advise people to ride on the back of one.

Rent a car, ride a taxi, or walk. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. But catching a ride on a motorcycle with a guy you don't even know? Thats insanity.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1505225]Yes, it has been a bit chilly, and she is right, you might need a jacket or long pants late at night or early in the day, so that was thoughtful advice. Bring your warm pajama pants! Of course it is not cold as in New England, but there is nothing worse than being uncomfortable because you brought the wrong clothes.[/QUOTE]I guess that it would be good advise if you lived in the DR and were accustomed to it being warm all the time but I have been to the DR well over 30 times and have had visits all twelve months of the year and never even came close to needing anything beyond shorts and t-shirts but that's just me I guess. I look forward to being in the "cold" weather of Puerto Plata in a few hours, I am getting out of here just in time for an ice storm.

You are spending 500-1000$ for an air ticket and saving 5-20$ per taxi ride?

IMHO it's just not smart risking your health or life for pocket change.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1505360]Based on my last trip to PP, there is no way in hell I would ride on the back of a motorcycle there. Those motorcyclists are absolutely crazy. I also find it difficult to understand how so many people on the forum can advise newbies to never rent a car because of the crazy motorcyclists, and then turn around and advise people to ride on the back of one.

Rent a car, ride a taxi, or walk. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. But catching a ride on a motorcycle with a guy you don't even know? Thats insanity.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1505360]Based on my last trip to PP, there is no way in hell I would ride on the back of a motorcycle there. Those motorcyclists are absolutely crazy. I also find it difficult to understand how so many people on the forum can advise newbies to never rent a car because of the crazy motorcyclists, and then turn around and advise people to ride on the back of one.

Rent a car, ride a taxi, or walk. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. But catching a ride on a motorcycle with a guy you don't even know? Thats insanity.[/QUOTE]I will assume this post is mainly aimed at me, and accept it in good spirit.

I only advise anyone contemplating hiring a car to be aware of all the issues. The absolute need to ensure that your insurance includes access to the Casa del Conductor service so you don't have to spend a month in a Dominican jail for an incident that might not be your fault (and everyone already knows it is not your fault). The dangers of others deliberately ramming your car and claiming against you and other such scams which you cannot avoid however well you drive.

If you are just staying in one city a car is not necessary and could be a liability. But for some guys' programs a car is virtually essential. If you are visiting off-the-beaten-track locations and you have baggage, then a rental is your only sensible option.

Similarly I would never recommend anyone to ride a bike if they are not comfortable with it. They are relatively dangerous, but you have to remember the hundreds of thousands of rides taken on them each day in only a medium sized city like Puerto Plata to make a sensible risk assessment. For someone like me, who needs to get about to different parts of the city, they are the only practical option, but I would never try to force them on others. I have made maybe six or seven thousand rides and have only had one accident, which I escaped without a scratch. It is funny you say "with a guy you don't even know" because that was one of maybe five times in nine years I was riding behind someone I did know personally. He was my then girlfriend's cousin giving me a "lift" and not a professional motoconchista and the problem was that his bike was not maintained. Nowadays I only use yellow jacketed professionals, mostly from a small "panel" of ones I know drive carefully.

In Sosua, as in many aspects, you get an inferior breed, and most places in Sosua are walking distance anyway.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1505399]You are spending 500-1000$ for an air ticket and saving 5-20$ per taxi ride?[/QUOTE]No-one is talking about saving more than US$5 (the price of a local taxi ride). Any taxi ride longer than that and no-one would ever take a motoconcho. There would always be better transport options.

And if you need to call a cab, wait for a cab, and pay for a cab every time you want to move from one location to another which is nearby but beyond walking distance in the heat then your life would become very impractical and / or expensive. If you are not comfortable with motos, then don't take them, but it does cut down your mobility within a larger city. Not a problem in Sosua where you can walk everywhere.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1505455]I will assume this post is mainly aimed at me, and accept it in good spirit.

I only advise anyone contemplating hiring a car to be aware of all the issues. The absolute need to ensure that your insurance includes access to the Casa del Conductor service so you don't have to spend a month in a Dominican jail for an incident that might not be your fault (and everyone already knows it is not your fault). The dangers of others deliberately ramming your car and claiming against you and other such scams which you cannot avoid however well you drive.

If you are just staying in one city a car is not necessary and could be a liability. But for some guys' programs a car is virtually essential. If you are visiting off-the-beaten-track locations and you have baggage, then a rental is your only sensible option.

Similarly I would never recommend anyone to ride a bike if they are not comfortable with it. They are relatively dangerous, but you have to remember the hundreds of thousands of rides taken on them each day in only a medium sized city like Puerto Plata to make a sensible risk assessment. Snip.

In Sosua, as in many aspects, you get an inferior breed, and most places in Sosua are walking distance anyway.[/QUOTE]

CP, my post was not aimed specifically at you. Some others share some of your opinions, so its not personal. This topic has come up over and over again, and I sincerely don't get the responses. And I am not speaking out of ignorance. I have rented a car there.

I don't understand how people are afraid to rent a car because they think that hitting a motorcyclist and going to jail/court is a high probability, yet think nothing of idea of being the actual person hit. Perhaps its because when their leg is halfway torn off, that they have perfect confidence in the top fellowship-trained trauma surgeon at the internationally renowned tertiary care at Sosua General Hospital. After all, even if you are in a remote area, you could always get promptly helicoptered in.

If I were to go again, I would definitely get the Casa Conductor insurance. Its been a while, but I remember posting a question on how, but I couldn't get a good recommendation of a company that provides this type of insurance.

I would get it because, personally, I think that renting a car is the way to go. I think that 90% of people will be ok if they 1) minimize their driving time, using the car to only change your home base or go to daytime non-punting attractions like kitesurfing or the Damajuaga falls, 2) do NOT use it to drive to punting destinations at night, as this leads to DUI, accidents, and theft, and 3) assume every motorcyclist is a death wish idiot and stay FAR away.

I WILL never rent a car the Dr. I did once and was scamned with a damage issues. Cost few hundred. Same happen renting a scooter. I learned to travel like the local s. It is cheaper and get s me there. While in most cases you will have no problem s but when you do oh nelly. I keep mt risk low. I also use the moto guys for shirt trips.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1505613]CP, my post was not aimed specifically at you. Some others share some of your opinions, so its not personal. This topic has come up over and over again, and I sincerely don't get the responses. And I am not speaking out of ignorance. I have rented a car there.

I don't understand how people are afraid to rent a car because they think that hitting a motorcyclist and going to jail / court is a high probability, yet think nothing of idea of being the actual person hit. Perhaps its because when their leg is halfway torn off, that they have perfect confidence in the top fellowship-trained trauma surgeon at the internationally renowned tertiary care at Sosua General Hospital. After all, even if you are in a remote area, you could always get promptly helicoptered in.

If I were to go again, I would definitely get the Casa Conductor insurance. Its been a while, but I remember posting a question on how, but I couldn't get a good recommendation of a company that provides this type of insurance.

I would get it because, personally, I think that renting a car is the way to go. I think that 90% of people will be ok if they 1) minimize their driving time, using the car to only change your home base or go to daytime non-punting attractions like kitesurfing or the Damajuaga falls. 2) do NOT use it to drive to punting destinations at night, as this leads to DUI, accidents, and theft, and 3) assume every motorcyclist is a death wish idiot and stay FAR away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1505648]I WILL never rent a car the Dr. I did once and was scamned with a damage issues. Cost few hundred. Same happen renting a scooter. I learned to travel like the local s. It is cheaper and gets me there. While in most cases you will have no problem s but when you do oh nelly. I keep mt risk low. I also use the moto guys for shirt trips.[/QUOTE]As a full time resident of the D. R. (as most of you now know after my lengthy missive about life here) , I felt it time to sound in on the transportation issue. First, to clarify from where I am coming from, I own both a full sized SUV as well as a relatively upscale, Enduro 250cc motocross, motorcycle. I use both extensively, although, to tell the truth, aside from trips with my wife or to go shopping, I prefer the bike.

Let's start with the bike. Unlike about 90% of Dominican motorcycle riders, even the motoconcho drivers, I always wear a helmet. In my case, a full faced one which I strap securely to my head at all times. As a man whose brain is his second favorite organ, I would never consider driving a bike without a helmet back home in Canada, let alone here in the Dominican. Secondly, as accidents are basically a way of life if you ride a bike in the Dominican. It's pretty much when and not if. I mitigate my chances of reducing the collateral damage by taking secondary measures that I do not think a single other driver in Puerto Plata does. I am probably the only motorcycle driver who always wears a special, motorcycle leather jacket. Even in the sweltering heat (albeit unzipped most of the time). To prevent road rash if I fall. Most people who drive around Puerto Plata can recognize me simply by my black jacket. I always wear long pants and shoes (not sandals like I wear most of the time) as well as gloves. I have taken a tumble once, thus far, and the only damage that occurred was to the bike and not to me. I stay away from congested routes, a measure that not only keeps me away from other vehicles and their disgusting, carbon monoxide smog, but a way to spend more time on secondary, scenic roads like the Malechon. If I'm going to drive a bike, I want the view and the relaxation of gunning the engine on car-free roads. If I ever had to use as motoconcho, I would ONLY do so if I had my own helmet. To do otherwise is to take a statistically good chance that after your vacation you'll be selling pencils from a tin cup outside a subway station for the rest of your life while drooling into your bib.

As for driving a car, or an SUV, all you must be sure of is to have full insurance. I am aware that many rental companies charge almost as much for full insurance as they do to give you the vehicle. But that is the cost of doing business in the Dominican. In 12 years of owning a vehicle in the D. R, I have had one accident involving a motorcycle driver (who was clearly at fault and significantly injured). And I was taken to court and sued. Aside from the hour or so at the police station after the accident, I never had another issue with any of the hassles, either legal or financial, as my insurance company's lawyer took care of the entire case. I pay for that service. But it is not that much higher than I have ever paid back in Canada for full insurance. There is nothing wrong with renting a car in the D. R. Just get the full insurance and have a great time. On a tangential note, some people have expressed a concern that driving in the Dominican is a hairy experience and that the drivers are both crazy and aggressive. I am personally from Quebec, where driving like a complete lunatic is a genetically implanted, cultural obligation. So the D. R. Is not that different for me, aside from the fact that when I want to drive like a crazed F1 driver on steroids, I can do so without worrying that some police officer will stop me, give me a $2, 000 fine and deduct half the points that I need to keep from losing my license for three months. I personally love it here.

So. Rent a car without worry, but pay for the insurance. Never get on a motorcycle without a helmet (you don't have one handy? Call a taxi). And stop worrying about all the negative hype about being a victim of some insurance scam involving a car. The last time I ever had an insurance issue in Canada, some jerk on a friggin' bicycle in January after a snow storm slipped and fell in front of my Jeep, had me slam on the brakes to save his sorry ass and then sued me for $250,000 in damages even though nothing happened to him. It can happen anywhere.

I just got back from the DR and I thought I'd put up a few trip reports. The first one is for Blackbeards. This is more a generalized report, I won't break things down minute by minute.

This is my first time to Blackbeards and had a great time. It has a very laid back atmosphere, which I like. I spent a total of four days there. I went alone, but met plenty of cool guys. Friendly atmosphere, probably because it is an enclosed area. Everyone was in the same boat, as it were.

I had a deluxe single, and it was great. Not expecting how nice it was. Big bed, couch, table, satellite with plenty of English-speaking channels, plenty of hot water, and great air conditioning. My room did not have an outside balcony, though, and it was one of only a few rooms that didn't have one. But overall, the room was great.

The bar / restaurant was fine, prices were on par with what you'd expect in the DR. The food was very good, the Chicken Alfredo was my favorite. I mainly drank Presidente Light, screwdrivers, and shots of mamajuana. I did my drinking at the bar and the pool.

The pool was very nice. It's right off the bar / restaurant, so it's no problem getting drinks and checking out the chicas. I spent plenty of time at the pool, getting sun, swimming, reading, listening to music, and playing with the chicas.

The chicas? The girls work in two shifts, the day shift likely in bikinis and the night shift in party dresses and the like. Not every girl was gorgeous, but all were pretty and there were plenty of stunners. They weren't very pushy, so I had no problems navigating around the girls I didn't want to those I did. I loved the interaction with the day shift girls. It was awesome, having beautiful girls in bikinis walking around trying to catch my eye. I know girls do the same thing in Sosua, but the enclosed atmosphere made it a little different, a difference I liked.

I had no problem finding a girl I liked, day and night shift. Sometimes I picked a girl and said lets go, other times I spent a little time with them at the bar or by the pool before I brought them to my room. In the room, there were some girls that were phenomenal, and some that were more functionary. But each were fun in their own way. Two standouts for me were "Ronnie" and Flore. Ronnie was 21 yrs old beauty that spoke English really well. And Flore was a fantastic little sexpot. Best performer I had at Blackbeards. Another standout session was with two girls (names not remembered) that talked me into taking them both upstairs. Only the second time I did that and it was great. They were both petite cuties, around 5'2" each and probably weighed around 100lb each. They alternated between blowing me and kissing me, then they took turns sitting on my dick and face. Awesome.

Blackbeards isn't a fast paced, stay up all night kind of place. If you're looking for that kind of thing, BB is not for you. But if you like to kick back, relax, and get laid, BB is great. I'm a quiet guy guy looking to unwind. When I'm not screwing or planning to start screwing, I like to read, watch football, swim, etc. So Blackbeards was perfect for me. I'd recommend it to anyone, even a for a short trip for the partying types. But if you like a little slower pace, Blackbeards is a great option.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1509324]I just got back from the DR and I thought I'd put up a few trip reports. The first one is for Blackbeards.[/QUOTE]I am glad you enjoyed yourself and thanks for reporting back.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1509324]I just got back from the DR and I thought I'd put up a few trip reports. The first one is for Blackbeards. This is more a generalized report, I won't break things down minute by minute.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I have been to BBs myself in the past year and your description gets me wanting a return trip.

Roni and Flore are both sweethearts. I see we have similar tastes.

Thanks again for the report, I live vicariously off the forum at times.

GH

[QUOTE=Phaedrus42; 1507205]As a full time resident of the D. R. (as most of you now know after my lengthy missive about life here) , I felt it time to sound in on the transportation issue. First, to clarify from where I am coming from, I own both a full sized SUV as well as a relatively upscale, Enduro 250cc motocross, motorcycle. I use both extensively, although, to tell the truth, aside from trips with my wife or to go shopping, I prefer the bike.

Let's start with the bike. Unlike about 90% of Dominican motorcycle riders, even the motoconcho drivers, I always wear a helmet. In my case, a full faced one which I strap securely to my head at all times. As a man whose brain is his second favorite organ, I would never consider driving a bike without a helmet back home in Canada, let alone here in the Dominican. Secondly, as accidents are basically a way of life if you ride a bike in the Dominican. It's pretty much when and not if. I mitigate my chances of reducing the collateral damage by taking secondary measures that I do not think a single other driver in Puerto Plata does. I am probably the only motorcycle driver who always wears a special, motorcycle leather jacket. Even in the sweltering heat (albeit unzipped most of the time). To prevent road rash if I fall. Most people who drive around Puerto Plata can recognize me simply by my black jacket. I always wear long pants and shoes (not sandals like I wear most of the time) as well as gloves. I have taken a tumble once, thus far, and the only damage that occurred was to the bike and not to me. I stay away from congested routes, a measure that not only keeps me away from other vehicles and their disgusting, carbon monoxide smog, but a way to spend more time on secondary, scenic roads like the Malechon. If I'm going to drive a bike, I want the view and the relaxation of gunning the engine on car-free roads. If I ever had to use as motoconcho, I would ONLY do so if I had my own helmet. To do otherwise is to take a statistically good chance that after your vacation you'll be selling pencils from a tin cup outside a subway station for the rest of your life while drooling into your bib.

As for driving a car, or an SUV, all you must be sure of is to have full insurance.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insightful response. I like the imagery of the "drooling in the bib."

When you say,"all the insurance," are you also referring to this "Casa Conductor?" Do you know what this is and who offers it? Can you recommend a reputable company? Companies like Hertz and Budget don't offer it. I assume that it is a DR thing, which would imply that I would have to rent a car from a local DR company, which makes me uncomfortable.

Hi,

Has any one recently visited Charlis Angels? Planning to make a trip over there in next couple of months. Any suggestions or recent visit informations guys?

First time to the Domincan Republic: looking for some general info:

Planning on checking out Blackbeards this spring. When would be the best time to go? I know Easter is bad- any other times to avoid? How much do the girls expect at Blackbeards? How are the 45 dollar rooms? A / C or cable? Are there any tours that

You can take from there to see other parts of the country? Is that section of town safe after dark?

Thanks in advance for any info you can share!

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1509324]I just got back from the DR and I thought I'd put up a few trip reports. The first one is for Blackbeards. This is more a generalized report, I won't break things down minute by minute.

This is my first time to Blackbeards and had a great time. It has a very laid back atmosphere, which I like. I spent a total of four days there. I went alone, but met plenty of cool guys. Friendly atmosphere, probably because it is an enclosed area. Everyone was in the same boat, as it were.

I had a deluxe single, and it was great. Not expecting how nice it was. Big bed, couch, table, satellite with plenty of English-speaking channels, plenty of hot water, and great air conditioning. My room did not have an outside balcony, though, and it was one of only a few rooms that didn't have one. But overall, the room was great.

The bar / restaurant was fine, prices were on par with what you'd expect in the DR. The food was very good, the Chicken Alfredo was my favorite. I mainly drank Presidente Light, screwdrivers, and shots of mamajuana. I did my drinking at the bar and the pool...[/QUOTE]

Hi MrIchabod.

I suggest you spend more time reading up before you ask questions. You have plenty of time before Spring 2014. Some of your questions have been answered a hundred times, others are inappropriate, for example:

[QUOTE=MrIchabod;1510509]Is that section of town safe after dark?[/QUOTE]Blackbeards is not in any section of a town. Costambar is a small village and residential community in the middle of nowhere. There is nowhere you could walk to after dark that is more interesting than Blackbeards itself. If you think you would get bored staying on campus, I suggest you stay three or four days there then move somewhere else like Field of Dreams or Sosua. Different guys have different boredom thresholds. I stayed two weeks at Blackbeards (on my first trip to the DR, like you) and could cheerfully have stayed another two. Other guys feel imprisoned after two days.

It is not particularly dangerous, but I would not walk about alone at dark. There are several hundred people living nearby who are desperately poor and most of it is pitch black at night when there is one of the frequent power outages, though you are more likely to fall in a ditch than get mugged.

[QUOTE=MrIchabod;1510509]Are there any tours that you can take from there to see other parts of the country?[/QUOTE]Yes, there are, but it is an expensive way of doing things. If you stay somewhere else near the public transport routes you could travel to almost anywhere in the DR very cheaply without needing a tour. Blackbeards is a great place, especially for newbies, but it is a lousy base from which to go to other places and even worse to get back to after dark. Field of Dreams in inferior in some ways but is far better in that respect. The point of staying at Blackbeards is to stay at Blackbeards.

Read more, then come back and ask your questions.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1509671]Thanks for the insightful response. I like the imagery of the "drooling in the bib."

When you say,"all the insurance," are you also referring to this "Casa Conductor?" Do you know what this is and who offers it? Can you recommend a reputable company? Companies like Hertz and Budget don't offer it. I assume that it is a DR thing, which would imply that I would have to rent a car from a local DR company, which makes me uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]Only place I have ever been offered "Casa Conductor" insurance was Santo Domingo. (Hertz) If your in a accident and have the coverage, there is a hotel in the Capitol where you await your hearing instead of Jail. I have tried go get it in Santiago and Puerto Plata and they acted like they had never heard of it.

I highly recomend getting all the insurance and paying with a American Express credit card. American Express does give you some coverage in the Road. Other credit cards offer no coverage on rentals in the Road.

[QUOTE=Road Pappi; 1511368]Only place I have ever been offered " Casa Conductor" insurance was Santo Domingo. (Hertz) If your in a accident and have the coverage, there is a hotel in the Capitol where you await your hearing instead of Jail. I have tried go get it in Santiago and Puerto Plata and they acted like they had never heard of it.

I highly recomend getting all the insurance and paying with a American Express credit card. American Express does give you some coverage in the Road. Other credit cards offer no coverage on rentals in the Road.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that it is only available in Santo Domingo and Santiago. Anyone that offers it, and charges extra for it is just scamming you. I was told this by a friend who runs a rental agency in Sosua.

[QUOTE=MrIchabod; 1510509]First time to the Domincan Republic: looking for some general info:

Planning on checking out Blackbeards this spring. When would be the best time to go? I know Easter is bad- any other times to avoid? How much do the girls expect at Blackbeards? How are the 45 dollar rooms? A / C or cable? Are there any tours that

You can take from there to see other parts of the country? Is that section of town safe after dark?

Thanks in advance for any info you can share![/QUOTE]I'm going on my 8th trip in a few days. The least expensive room is $55. I usually take a $60 buck room. Splitting the Penthouse suite if available with a buddy will run you $69 bucks each with separate bedrooms. For your first time there I recommend a taxi ride to nearby Ocean World just to say you went. Def take the ski lift up Mt. Isabella that you can see from the stairway leading up to the 2nd and 3rd floors. Only go if the weather is good as the summit is a cloudy rain forest zone. Its a 15 minute taxi ride and it costs maybe $10 bucks for a ticket I think. If you golf, rent your gear at the local cow patch golf course called Mangos 10 minute motoconcho away. Other than that I wouldn't bother on any major excursions on your first trip. What's the point really. I usually go in early May every year and find its not that busy at that time and the weather pleasant. Walking around at night isn't a problem if part of a group but I would avoid going out alone on your first trip until you know the area. There's really no good reason to leave the compound walking around at night anyway.

They also have 20% surcharge for credit card payments, so bring cash.

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1511954]I'm going on my 8th trip in a few days. The least expensive room is $55. I usually take a $60 buck room. Splitting the Penthouse suite if available with a buddy will run you $69 bucks each with separate bedrooms. For your first time there I recommend a taxi ride to nearby Ocean World just to say you went. Def take the ski lift up Mt. Isabella that you can see from the stairway leading up to the 2nd and 3rd floors. Only go if the weather is good as the summit is a cloudy rain forest zone. Its a 15 minute taxi ride and it costs maybe $10 bucks for a ticket I think. If you golf, rent your gear at the local cow patch golf course called Mangos 10 minute motoconcho away. Other than that I wouldn't bother on any major excursions on your first trip. What's the point really. I usually go in early May every year and find its not that busy at that time and the weather pleasant. Walking around at night isn't a problem if part of a group but I would avoid going out alone on your first trip until you know the area. There's really no good reason to leave the compound walking around at night anyway.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1511954]Def take the ski lift up Mt. Isabella . Only go if the weather is good as the summit is a cloudy rain forest zone.[/QUOTE]Helpful post, Geolopes, but not a lot of skiing goes on in the DR! The cable-car [Teleferico] trip is best done with a chica as there is nothing to do once up top. But keep her out of the souvenir shop and restaurant. Prices are double those in the city below. The only point is the view, so a waste of time and money if misty, which it often is. See my comments in post 7496 below.

I am sure it must be on this thread somewhere, though I can't find it. What is the usual rate paid to take a chick from Blackbeards to your room for some action, and is this normally done on an hourly or 2 hour basis maybe? What about all-nighters, are these common as well, what do mongers pay on average for that? And I assume the transaction is strictly with the lady, and not with Blackbeards themselves.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1512955]I am sure it must be on this thread somewhere, though I can't find it. What is the usual rate paid to take a chick from Blackbeards to your room for some action, and is this normally done on an hourly or 2 hour basis maybe? What about all-nighters, are these common as well, what do mongers pay on average for that? And I assume the transaction is strictly with the lady, and not with Blackbeards themselves.[/QUOTE]Blackbeards rates are fixed. 1600 pesos for ST (1-2 hours) you can negotiate what you want in that time. LT (all night) is 3000 pesos, usually about 3 pops, including 1 in the morning. You do pay the girls directly. Also as a tip you can talk to the Mamasan and tell

Her what you want and she can recommend a girl for you.

All night 3000 pesos.

You deal with chica, but prices are fixed.

Tips appreciated but not required.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1512955]I am sure it must be on this thread somewhere, though I can't find it. What is the usual rate paid to take a chick from Blackbeards to your room for some action, and is this normally done on an hourly or 2 hour basis maybe? What about all-nighters, are these common as well, what do mongers pay on average for that? And I assume the transaction is strictly with the lady, and not with Blackbeards themselves.[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys for the feedback, those prices sound pretty good! I was paying between 2000 and 2500 just for 1 or 2 hours in Sosua and Santo Domingo over 2 years ago! Can't wait to come back to the DR in general, and to check out Blackbeards! What are the quality of the girls / prices like at Field of Dreams compared to Blackbeards?

Choice of chicas is not so good.

I visited FOD last year, so those who visited recently both places might correct me on that.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1513204]Thanks guys for the feedback, those prices sound pretty good! I was paying between 2000 and 2500 just for 1 or 2 hours in Sosua and Santo Domingo over 2 years ago! Can't wait to come back to the DR in general, and to check out Blackbeards! What are the quality of the girls / prices like at Field of Dreams compared to Blackbeards?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1513204]I was paying between 2000 and 2500 just for 1 or 2 hours in Sosua[/QUOTE]You were paying too much for Sosua. 1000 to 1500 is standard for ST.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1513204]What are the quality of the girls / prices like at Field of Dreams compared to Blackbeards?[/QUOTE]Field of Dreams fluctuates a lot, whereas BB is pretty consistent. Normally fewer chicas to choose from at FoD. As for looks, sometimes equal to BB, sometimes inferior. For quality of service and companionship some prefer FoD. The girls there tend to be more amateurish and less hardcore. For some this is a good thing, for others not. Lots of exceptions to this general statement at both places.

Prices are the same, but at BB they are fixed. At FoD they are maximum, so on a quiet day you can negotiate a cheaper price.

Why do guys go to Black Beards. That place sucks and you can find better girls other places.

Just need to know why?

Some do not have time to vet and hunt for girls. If you have very poor Spanish BB and Casas are a good option. BB also iliminates having drama with girls. BB bores me to tears but their are many guys who swear by the place. BB has maybe 30 girls while Sosua has 300. This is a no brainer for m

[QUOTE=ABryantJr1;1513274]Why do guys go to Black Beards. That place sucks and you can find better girls other places. Just need to know why?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ABryantJr1;1513274]Why do guys go to Black Beards. That place sucks and you can find better girls other places. Just need to know why?[/QUOTE]For the same reason people choose to do what they want to do-and get maximum enjoyment from their choices.

Easy, relaxed and no drama.

50 chicas to choose from is good enough for most guys.

Reasonable price / quality ratio for accommodation, food and chicas.

SAFETY, you don't have to hide your wallet or laptop with chica (s) in the room, no pickpockets and other petty criminals.

Threesomes made easy.

Beach with very few people 6 days / week is only 3 minutes away.

[QUOTE=ABryantJr1;1513274]Why do guys go to Black Beards. That place sucks and you can find better girls other places. Just need to know why?[/QUOTE]

I guess it means that you can bargain, but I've never tried it myself.

What would be the point, save 5 bucks a pop?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1513268]You were paying too much for Sosua. 1000 to 1500 is standard for ST.

Field of Dreams fluctuates a lot, whereas BB is pretty consistent. Normally fewer chicas to choose from at FoD. As for looks, sometimes equal to BB, sometimes inferior. For quality of service and companionship some prefer FoD. The girls there tend to be more amateurish and less hardcore. For some this is a good thing, for others not. Lots of exceptions to this general statement at both places.

Prices are the same, but at BB they are fixed. At FoD they are maximum, so on a quiet day you can negotiate a cheaper price.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ABryantJr1;1513274]Why do guys go to Black Beards. That place sucks and you can find better girls other places. Just need to know why?[/QUOTE]Let's see. I've only been once. Really want to go back. Wonder why?

Nice rooms, good food, cold beer, nice clean pool, friendly staff, good service, the beach is a 5 minute stroll, amazing hot tub, free wi-fi, laid back atmosphere, laid back patrons who are all there for the same reasons, so conversation is easy and Spanish is not mandatory. And let's see what else? OH YEAH! Beautiful women with the wave of a hand. Two shifts of them, day and night. Bikini parties, nightie parties, dance parties. Naughty games in the bar. And all without having to walk through the in town bars, unfamiliar neighborhoods, and renting a room in a hotel in town.

Better girls? Don't know. The girls at BB's were awesome to me.

I have been to FOD and enjoyed both trips there in the last 18 months. It has a little different feel to it than BB's but that is not a bad thing. I like that it is close to the airport. Lots of comparisons have been made about both places. That said I have stayed in Santo Domingo for a week (great time) Santiago 5 visits (great time). But.

I have been to BB's 25+ times over the past 9 years. I have thrown many a Buffet party for all the girls and guests at the hotel. All of the staff have always treated me VERY well. I travel alone and like to stay under the radar. Horn Dog Too said all of the things I would have said. Well done! I have met and stayed in touch with MANY of the like minded people I have met over the years. In fact every time I return to BB's it is like a reunion. The last thing I love about BB's is they (owner and managers) are willing and able to do what ever needs to be done to make sure you have the best time when you are there. Every time I had any issue with food, girls, room my bill you name it they fixed it. One tip is I always tell them right away if there is a problem and also when things are great and why.

There are many choices in the DR and each of us has a favorite. The one commonality that we all share is is our love for the sport. Here's to a great 2014!

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1513514]What would be the point, save 5 bucks a pop?[/QUOTE]I agree. I was just stating what I understand to be the case.

But some guys are funny here. Look at all the posts comparing places to change money when, even on a larger amount than anyone ought to be carrying around, they might only save three dollars. Or the agonizing whether or not to tip 20 pesos. Or complaining about being squashed in the publico but too tight to pay another 45 pesos for a second seat.

Yet the same guys will pay double the price for beers in clubs without thinking twice and are happy to get overcharged US$10 by private cabs.

It is our money to spend, and we all have different priorities when it comes to economizing.

Seems like alot of the Blackbeard chicas who were shown the door are ending up at Field of Dreams. I absolutely love Blackbeards, but there are at least five chicas this year that I've returned back for and they're adios. I subscribe to the newsletter for FOD but the content is lacking, and they don't include pics of the ladies, I really want to have a recon mission into FOD, but there are so many other options out there.

Has anyone booked a stay there because the reservation process seems rather complicated.

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1513450]Easy, relaxed and no drama.

50 chicas to choose from is good enough for most guys.

Reasonable price / quality ratio for accommodation, food and chicas.

SAFETY, you don't have to hide your wallet or laptop with chica (s) in the room, no pickpockets and other petty criminals.

Threesomes made easy.

Beach with very few people 6 days / week is only 3 minutes away.[/QUOTE]
You can also have an easy and relaxed time in Sosua, depending on what you want to do. You have many chicas to choose from in Sosua.

Now for the safety. If I recall correctly the chicas in Blackbeards come from the same type of background as the Sosua chicas. No difference there. As for not hiding your wallet, one needs to use discretion. Always be careful wherever you go in the Dominican Republic, even in Blackbeards. From what I last recalled most, if not all the rooms in Blackbeards have safes. If Blackbeards is so secure than why the safes? I have seen chicas, with my own eyes, steal in Blackbeards. How about the guy eating and drinking in Blackbeards, and when he finally pays he does not receive the proper change back. I've seen it happen. The chicas pocket the money. Many times the amount is quite small while other times the guy is so drunk he is not even aware of it. Then there are the guys who have a chica for several days and behind his back the chica orders a beer or two for one of the other chicas. Many times the guy does not even notice it (a beer here, a beer there) so he just signs away and by the end of the night he is so wasted he does not even care. I know many are saying out there that anything ordered is suppose to go through the customer first but sometimes it does not happen this way. What I am saying is common in many hotels, and not only Blackbeards but to assume that no theft goes on there is ridiculous. The good thing about Blackbeards is that one can complain to management and if John, the owner, has a good manager the matter will be addressed. John himself will always deal with issues. While many others have fallen by the wayside John, through good management, has lasted. I admire this about him. There is less theft in Blackbeards and the workers are more honest, but Blackbeards itself had to deal with these issues among their staff and chicas. Again, they do have more of a handle on this situation and there might not be a more safe place anywhere around, but always be careful with your belongings.

It is easier to deal with chicas there because they are less problematic (they do not want to lose their job and they can be identified just in case something happens).

As for reasonable price I have found cheaper chicas in Sosua. I guess if you have no negotiation skills than Blackbeards is a bargain, by a long shot.

Anything from beer to bottled water (or anything else that is stored in the refrigerator in the Blackbeards rooms) can be obtained more cheaply outside Blackbeards (heck, just walk around Costambar and you will find it cheaper!). Blackbeards, like many other hotels, will always overcharge for items (it is the convenience of having the item onsite). I recall, many years ago while walking out the Mercure Hotel in Santo Domingo, asking a worker the cost of a bottle of water. She quoted DOP 60. I said 'what! I can get it for DOP 8 right next door. ' That is exactly what I did. A common hotel practice.

The biggest problem with Blackbeards is that it is out in nowhere (if you are not aware of this you have never been to Costambar.) This is why they have bikini parties, night parties, danced parties, tours, etc. One can easily get bored. I would not say it sucks but at the same time I will not pretend to make it something it is not. I would stay there no more than 3 or 4 days tops. I work many hours so I take a break and go there to do nothing, and catch my breath. Once this is done I leave and go the another town.

Since I speak the language and understand the culture I see the usual pettiness of chicas at Blackbeards getting annoyed when customers do not give them business, some making sly remarks, and the like. You would be surprised what these chicas really think about the clients. The usual stuff I hear anywhere else on the island.

I talk to the chicas and gain some insight into their world, and even happenings at Blackbeards.

If you want variety Blackbeards is not the place. If you are an indian who does not like to leave the reservation, does not like to deal with the cavalry or hostile Indians in the real world, does not want to mix with the culture, and want an easy time of it than Blackbeards is for you.

As for beers, wifi, nice rooms, good service, etc. You can get the same things in Sosua. It is not as if Blackbeards has a monopoly on these items. Sosua is not a better place than Blackbeards but if you want some insight on the island Sosua is a better bet, with more on the horizon. If you do not want to be bothered than Blackbeards is the way to go. In the end Blackbeards is a hotel and Sosua is a town, with pros and cons for each.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;1513937]Seems like alot of the Blackbeard chicas who were shown the door are ending up at Field of Dreams. I absolutely love Blackbeards, but there are at least five chicas this year that I've returned back for and they're adios. I subscribe to the newsletter for FOD but the content is lacking, and they don't include pics of the ladies, I really want to have a recon mission into FOD, but there are so many other options out there. Has anyone booked a stay there because the reservation process seems rather complicated.[/QUOTE]I have been to FOD several times in the past year and I agree that their reservation system sucks balls and I have told them this more than once, they are the only place that does it this way and they lose business because of it, very foolish of them especially when the damn hotel is never more than half full. Now I just show up without a reservation and haven't had a problem getting a room, if they were fully booked I would just go elsewhere but they are never fully booked with maybe the exception of Super Bowl weekend and a few times a year when a certain other forum holds a private party.

That said, when it comes to the girls I would stay at FOD over BB without question, they aren't as business like and if you hang around to see their full lineup they have a better selection without a doubt, I stayed at BB's for the pyrate debacle at halloween and was not impressed by their lineup. The first two girls I went with at BB's wanted to give me a covered BJ, I kicked them both out of the room, then I took a girl for TLN and she was great that night but got up at 5 a. M. Got dressed and said she had to go back to Santiago to be with her baby, of course she wanted her full 3000 pesos but I gave her 1600 and kicked her to the curb too. I actually ended up going to FOD and took a girl from there back to BB's for a few days. But at least BB's has a functioning jacuzzi.

The Basic Intel:

Dates 12/28/13 till 1/3/14.

Jenny's exchange rate in Costambar went from 42. 45 to 42. 6. Breaking news, there is NOW a functioning Banco Popular ATM right next to Jennys! About fucking time.

1000 pesos DR at 42. 5=$23. 53 USD. 100 pesos=$2. 35. No need to rent a taxi to Puerto Plata just to go to an ATM. You can walk it one way in 12 minutes.

BB's short time at 1, 600 pesos=$37. 65. Long time (all night) at 3, 000 pesos=$70. 59.

BBBJ in the Jacuzzi (no leche) at 500 pesos=$11. 77. If you nut you pay the full 1, 600 pesos. Fair enough.

One Presidente small beer at 132-135 pesos (depending on the bartender) =about $3. 17 each. 10% tip included on all bar / meal tabs.

My best 4 course meal at BB's cost me 1, 045 pesos=$24. 59 tip included. No need to tip but a few clinkers on the table for good service goes a long way.

Your room's mini bar fridge prices are the same as the bar minus the 10% tip for you cheap fuckers out there. Splitting a Presidente Grande beer with your box can save a few clinkers for those of you still collecting your 99 weeks unemployment.

Arrived on time at POP. My retarded driver was waiting for me with my sign with my preferred travel alias. Unbeknownst to me I am known by BB's staff as "Blanco Diablo" (white Devil) as well and both names were on my sign. Tim made it clear to my driver that this was a joke and that there was only one guy on his fare. So we wasted a good 20 minutes hanging around for this imaginary 2nd fare with my nom de Guerra. I figured it out, pissed that I was now running late for the Bikini Contest. There would be no tip for the Dominican retard. Naturally. Arrived at Jenny's for the counting party in the backroom where $1, 500 USD was converted into a big, fat stack of monopoly money. Arrived barely on time for the contest. Met up as arranged with my two wingmen, the "Thai Guys." So named from their extensive mongering experience to Bankok / Pattaya.

Now, I had an agenda. I was fiending for some decent deep throat head on this trip knowing full well that it's hard to find in this part of the world. It's not BB's fault but Dominicanas really can't throat a decent cock on average. YMMV. Tim graciously allowed me to dive right into the party and settle my hotel bill a little later. Locked up my stash in the room safe, threw on a t-shirt and loose fitting ball bag and hit the pool for a few seconds to cool off while Cliff was calling out the 16 contestants. Sat down with my buds and soaked in the contest with a perfectly rime iced green glass bottle in hand. The designated Bikini Contest Judges were a pile of goofs. GOOFS! Dudes, grab your cocks and have a life, act like fucking judges! The entire bar actually boo'd them and their faulty choice for first place. That's what you get for having 3 bisexual noobs as judges. Stiffs.

For the next several days we did the usual. Had a few nice meals around the corner at Sole Mio's Italian for a change. We did the usual cultural excursion to Field Of Dreams (FOD) and found they actually had a few lookers there unlike our last three trips where we had one beer and launched for Sosua / Passions. So we pounded something out this time. Learned from Nico, their day bartender, that FOD was having a bikini contest on New Years Day. So we returned for that too. FOD's contest was a farce compared to BB's but we had a good laugh. Fortunately, we all grabbed the best box standing around earlier and pounded them out right after the contest. They pass the hat for donations at FOD and the contest winners are paid a small prize out of that. The designated Judges, so-called, play no discernable role at FOD. Going rate at FOD hovers at 1, 500-1, 600 pesos and a short time room was an additional 840 pesos=$19. 76. This pricing was in effect with Nico, a decent and honest guy. At shift change after the contest they overcharged two other guys that came along with us from BB's a higher rate. This 2 tier pricing goes into affect after Nico leaves apparently. Total bullshit.

This was my 10th trip in about 4 years and we all know our way around. We completely avoided Sosua this time simply because we are getting tired of their crap over there. Thai Guy #1 had about 19 kills and my body count was 11. Thai Guy #3 slayed as well. Thai Guy #2 didn't make this trip having just returned from Thailand a few weeks earlier on a 21 day stay. Hey, some guys got to work designing America's most lethal terrorist killing weapons systems. Just saying. Anyway, BB's food was good and affordable as usual. I didn't care for my room this time around and the water pressure on the top tier sucked ass but you can manage it. The place was 80-100% full during my stay but you wouldn't know it. Their OPTEMPO was relaxed and tranquil. Seemed like many guests just took off on trips, etc. Enjoyed a superb Lesbo 3sum on my last night there BTW.

Note, all pics below are immediate post blowout.

We will return.

I have been to BB twice and doubt if I will return. The atmosphere was not appealing. The girls were desperate for customers. Most seemed very bored as certain girls were the A team and got most of the business. After 3 days I saw everything in the house and needed a change. While Sosua can be unpredictable this what makes it fun for me. I also find a greater variety of girls. Not all are hard core. I like the variety of places to eat and pricing. I have had many girls for 1000 k day action. Sometimes you can hook up with a girl and and a wife for few days at a discounted price. Did I mention the beach always a nice stroll. I also use the publico to go to Caberete 50 pesos each way.

From BB's a higher rate. This 2 tier pricing goes into affect after Nico leaves apparently. Total bullshit.

This was my 10th trip in about 4 years and we all know our way around. We completely avoided Sosua this time simply because we are getting tired of their crap over there. Thai Guy #1 had about 19 kills and my body count was 11. Thai Guy #3 slayed as well. Thai Guy #2 didn't make this trip having just returned from Thailand a few weeks earlier on a 21 day stay. Hey, some guys got to work designing America's most lethal terrorist killing weapons systems. Just saying. Anyway, BB's food was good and affordable as usual. I didn't care for my room this time around and the water pressure on the top tier sucked ass but you can manage it. The place was 80-100% full during my stay but you wouldn't know it. Their OPTEMPO was relaxed and tranquil. Seemed like many guests just took off on trips, etc. Enjoyed a superb Lesbo 3sum on my last night there BTW.

Note, all pics below are immediate post blowout.

We will return.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Geolopes; 1515545]The Basic Intel:

Dates 12/28/13 till 1/3/14.

Jenny's exchange rate in Costambar went from 42. 45 to 42. 6. Breaking news, there is NOW a functioning Banco Popular ATM right next to Jennys! About fucking time.

1000 pesos DR at 42. 5=$23. 53 USD. 100 pesos=$2. 35. No need to rent a taxi to Puerto Plata just to go to an ATM. You can walk it one way in 12 minutes.

BB's short time at 1, 600 pesos=$37. 65. Long time (all night) at 3, 000 pesos=$70. 59.

BBBJ in the Jacuzzi (no leche) at 500 pesos=$11. 77. If you nut you pay the full 1, 600 pesos. Fair enough.

One Presidente small beer at 132-135 pesos (depending on the bartender) =about $3. 17 each. 10% tip included on all bar / meal tabs.

My best 4 course meal at BB's cost me 1, 045 pesos=$24. 59 tip included. No need to tip but a few clinkers on the table for good service goes a long way.

Your room's mini bar fridge prices are the same as the bar minus the 10% tip for you cheap fuckers out there. Splitting a Presidente Grande beer with your box can save a few clinkers for those of you still collecting your 99 weeks unemployment.

Arrived on time at POP. My retarded driver was waiting for me with my sign with my preferred travel alias. Unbeknownst to me I am known by BB's staff as "Blanco Diablo" (white Devil) as well and both names were on my sign. Tim made it clear to my driver that this was a joke and that there was only one guy on his fare. So we wasted a good 20 minutes hanging around for this imaginary 2nd fare with my nom de Guerra. I figured it out, pissed that I was now running late for the Bikini Contest. There would be no tip for the Dominican retard. Naturally. Arrived at Jenny's for the counting party in the backroom where $1, 500 USD was converted into a big, fat stack of monopoly money. Arrived barely on time for the contest. Met up as arranged with my two wingmen, the "Thai Guys." So named from their extensive mongering experience to Bankok / Pattaya.

Now, I had an agenda. I was fiending for some decent deep throat head on this trip knowing full well that it's hard to find in this part of the world. It's not BB's fault but Dominicanas really can't throat a decent cock on average. YMMV. Tim graciously allowed me to dive right into the party and settle my hotel bill a little later. Locked up my stash in the room safe, threw on a t-shirt and loose fitting ball bag and hit the pool for a few seconds to cool off while Cliff was calling out the 16 contestants. Sat down with my buds and soaked in the contest with a perfectly rime iced green glass bottle in hand. The designated Bikini Contest Judges were a pile of goofs. GOOFS! Dudes, grab your cocks and have a life, act like fucking judges! The entire bar actually boo'd them and their faulty choice for first place. That's what you get for having 3 bisexual noobs as judges. Stiffs.

For the next several days we did the usual. Had a few nice meals around the corner at Sole Mio's Italian for a change. We did the usual cultural excursion to Field Of Dreams (FOD) and found they actually had a few lookers there unlike our last three trips where we had one beer and launched for Sosua / Passions. So we pounded something out this time. Learned from Nico, their day bartender, that FOD was having a bikini contest on New Years Day. So we returned for that too. FOD's contest was a farce compared to BB's but we had a good laugh. Fortunately, we all grabbed the best box standing around earlier and pounded them out right after the contest. They pass the hat for donations at FOD and the contest winners are paid a small prize out of that. The designated Judges, so-called, play no discernable role at FOD. Going rate at FOD hovers at 1, 500-1, 600 pesos and a short time room was an additional 840 pesos=$19. 76. This pricing was in effect with Nico, a decent and honest guy. At shift change after the contest they overcharged two other guys that came along with us from BB's a higher rate. This 2 tier pricing goes into affect after Nico leaves apparently. Total bullshit.

This was my 10th trip in about 4 years and we all know our way around. We completely avoided Sosua this time simply because we are getting tired of their crap over there. Thai Guy #1 had about 19 kills and my body count was 11. Thai Guy #3 slayed as well. Thai Guy #2 didn't make this trip having just returned from Thailand a few weeks earlier on a 21 day stay. Hey, some guys got to work designing America's most lethal terrorist killing weapons systems. Just saying. Anyway, BB's food was good and affordable as usual. I didn't care for my room this time around and the water pressure on the top tier sucked ass but you can manage it. The place was 80-100% full during my stay but you wouldn't know it. Their OPTEMPO was relaxed and tranquil. Seemed like many guests just took off on trips, etc. Enjoyed a superb Lesbo 3sum on my last night there BTW.

Note, all pics below are immediate post blowout.

We will return.[/QUOTE]Great Report. I couldn't stop laughing!

Geolopes took great care during our trip documenting everything for his report. FOD was defiantly hit or miss, on Monday there were quite a few attractive Chicas, on Wednesday (the bikini contest) there were not. I would have payed at least 2 of the contestants to put more clothes ON. The bikini contest was seriously lame, the chicas showed little interest in putting on any type of show, and the music was so freaking loud that you couldn't hear yourself think. Also FOD did not contribute to the prize pool at all, it was completely dependent upon the guests to "donate" to the prize pool. As Geolopes 2 of our group of 6 needed up paying 1, 000DOP more for a Short Time room than we were quoted, this of course happened after Nico left, I concur that the random prices are total bullshit, defiantly something the management of FOD should make sure is addressed. I will probably visit FOD again, but I will not be there on a bikini contest.

Say what you want about Blackbeards, I love it! They do a great job trying to make sure their guests enjoy their experience. It should be noted they have done a great job recruiting new Chicas's since my last trip in March 2013. There were a few of my old favorites, but over half of the girls were new to Blackbeards since my last visit. Which I personally appreciate.

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1515545]Note, all pics below are immediate post blowout.[/QUOTE]A picture is worth a 1, 000 words

[QUOTE=Geolopes; 1515545]

The designated Bikini Contest Judges were a pile of goofs. GOOFS! Dudes, grab your cocks and have a life, act like fucking judges! The entire bar actually boo'd them and their faulty choice for first place. That's what you get for having 3 bisexual noobs as judges. Stiffs.[/QUOTE]Ambar won the contest, and while she is certainly attractive, it was the consensus that she did not put on the best show. The crowd boo'ed when it was announced that Anise was in 3rd place when it was quite obvious that either her or Angela (Who didn't even make the Top 5) should have won. I hope Blackbeards does a better job of screening the judges in the future. Geolopes is being quite nice in his description of the judges. They left shortly after the contest. Never to return. Stiffs.

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This post is tailor made for the 80% that are just lurkers on this awesome site. For those of you still summoning up the courage for that first, liberating trip to BB's, just follow the pics on what you might expect. Once you bust your cherry at BB's consider yourself qualified to March on towards Sosua, etc. C'mon man, you got this!

[QUOTE=Dveight;1515593]Ambar won the contest, and while she is certainly attractive, it was the consensus that she did not put on the best show. The crowd boo'ed when it was announced that Anise was in 3rd place when it was quite obvious that either her or Angela (Who didn't even make the Top 5) should have won. I hope Blackbeards does a better job of screening the judges in the future. Geolopes is being quite nice in his description of the judges. They left shortly after the contest. Never to return. Stiffs.[/QUOTE]LOL. You guys remind me of the parents who scream abuse on the touchlines at under-8 soccer matches. Who the fuck cares who wins? It's a contest for working girls to show their wares, not the Olympics.

You might say the chicas care, but I suspect that they and the management are quite happy for the prizes to get shared around. I have no idea who Anise and Angela are, but I do know if they kept on winning every two weeks there would be a lot of reluctance from the other girls to take part.

I have seen a few of these contests and I have never remotely agreed with the final placings. But I am a grown-up, so I don't care!

What I did care about is the incredibly long-drawn out process. Largely took the fun out of it. I hope they have streamlined that since the last time I watched, about three years ago.

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1515622]This post is tailor made for the 80% that are just lurkers on this awesome site. For those of you still summoning up the courage for that first, liberating trip to BB's, just follow the pics on what you might expect. Once you bust your cherry at BB's consider yourself qualified to March on towards Sosua, etc. C'mon man, you got this![/QUOTE]This is not directed specifically at you Geolopes, but I just don't understand why people bother posting pictures of girls with their faces covered or blurred out. Those pictures are useless. I can only think of one time where a picture of a girls body was so fantastic that it intrigued me. Otherwise, I can't get any idea of how attractive they are.

I understand that some people want privacy protected. Ok. But asking everyone out there: Does anyone find those pictures useful?

Most DR girls are chubby anyway, so they need the cute face to recover.

Geo, or should I say... BD?? :)

Thanks for the detailed report, always good to know the logistics of how to move around and what things cost, not to metion the dining suggestions!

Still trying to decide on FOD or BB for my first trip. Sounds like BB may have the advantage, because of quality and organization. Have you told Jeremy, at FOD, about what happens when Nico goes off shift?

Can't help but be curious, can you assign names to the conchas in the pix? The 3rd from the left is very nice. :)

[QUOTE=Guillermo; 1516727]Geo, or should I say. BD? .

Thanks for the detailed report, always good to know the logistics of how to move around and what things cost, not to metion the dining suggestions!

Still trying to decide on FOD or BB for my first trip. Sounds like BB may have the advantage, because of quality and organization. Have you told Jeremy, at FOD, about what happens when Nico goes off shift?

Can't help but be curious, can you assign names to the conchas in the pix? The 3rd from the left is very nice. .[/QUOTE]His name is Jeffery not Jeremy and he is a member here and reads this forum regularly.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1516777]His name is Jeffery not Jeremy and he is a member here and reads this forum regularly.[/QUOTE]Manizales,

Thank you, I stand corrected. :)

[QUOTE=Guillermo; 1516727]Geo, or should I say. BD? .

Thanks for the detailed report, always good to know the logistics of how to move around and what things cost, not to metion the dining suggestions!

Still trying to decide on FOD or BB for my first trip. Sounds like BB may have the advantage, because of quality and organization. Have you told Jeremy, at FOD, about what happens when Nico goes off shift?

Can't help but be curious, can you assign names to the conchas in the pix? The 3rd from the left is very nice. .[/QUOTE]No prob Guillermo. BB's is superior overall, especially for the first time visitor looking for a worry free vacation, but FOD is better for the ST drop-in trade that's hanging out across the street playing golf or down the road in Sosua. This thread is filled with BB's v. FOD comparisons so I won't add to it. The owner of FOD has been made completely aware of the dual pricing / skimming scam problem since he is being flamed quite heavily right now for it on the "other" board by some guys that were just there. The other board's posts regarding this shit go back to early December, before I got there. My bad for not reading the threads before my last trip. I might add that BB's actually owns their real estate outright whereas FOD operates out of rented quarters, not that they aren't making a good go out of it. Enjoy your trip wherever and whenever you go. By all means post your own trip report and keep us informed. BTW, what does "BD" mean? Enjoy and be SAFE down there. Geo

At 968 pesos (10% tip included) my 4 course dinner at BB's cost me $22. 80 USD. Dinner consisted of a large bowl of the Dominican "sancocho" soup, with a side of white rice and some "tostones" (deep fried green bananas) as the appetizer. The main course was this really sick wood fired pork chop, mmmmm, that tasted like a huge chunk of bacon with a baked potato with real butter and sour cream and a salad. Mmmmmm! Also included were 2 large diet cokes with a lime and for dessert this REALLY excellent locally made chocolate ice cream. I left another tip totaling maybe 50 cents. The exchange rate in effect when I paid the bill was 42. 45 pesos DR to 1 USD. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1517175]BTW, what does "BD" mean? Enjoy and be SAFE down there. Geo[/QUOTE][i]Blanco Diablo[/i], of course. :)

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1518252]About Puerto Plata. Almost every visit to the La Sirena store on the malecon there are usually dozens of beautiful chicas / women shopping or working in that store. Aside from shopping, many chicas also come there to have lunch in the cafeteria upstairs. Most times they don't seem to make much eye contact like many of us are accustomed to when in Sosua, and seem quite focused on what they are there for. In Sosua, a dude who speaks some spanish can get by very easily. The chicas will work with a guy when he attempts to communicate, even when using a translator.

I would want to pursue some of the women I see in La Sirena, but sense they arent going to be as patient with a non fluent spanish speaking foreigner as a typical working girl. If I at least got more eye contact from them, I'd easily take it from there. But most I've seen in the store seem only focused on shopping / working / having lunch. I suppose talking to a foreigner publically can be perceived negatively within the PP community? Often times I see chicas from Sosua in La Sirena, and they are usually receptive or they'll at least acknowledge you. But I guess one should expect different with non pros?

I wonder if speaking fluent spanish is enough, especially when they know you arent dominican or figure you don't live there? Or perhaps it's somewhat embarrassing for some women to be "picked up" in public? Of course many are married or have boyfriends, so that could be the biggest factor? The other thing. With all of the women walking around in La Sirena, I never see dominican men trying to talk to or pick up women in the store. The most I see are dominican men staring at them when they go in or come out the store. And if they say anything it's usually just a cute remark, but not a serious attempt to strike up a convo or to meet them. They seem to be content with simply staring at women.[/QUOTE]You can pull in La Sirena. Even I have managed it four times but two of them turned out to be Sosua putas spending their ill-gotten gains.

But it is not the best place. Although it is a very average supermarket to us first-worlders, it is moderately upmarket for Dominicans. Only middle-class Dominicans can afford to shop there, plus putas anmd "kept women". It therefore follows that they have less incentive to look for a quick mil quiniento.

A better place is Jimenez the clothing store in Camino Real. A higher proportion of younger women and from a poorer social cross-section. But when I used to hunt for chicas in Pto Pta I would do it in the poor barrios.

If you have the social assets which I lack, younger, better-looking, good Latin dancer, decent Spanish, then you could try the bars along Luis Ginebra in the evenings and especially Friday thru Sunday. Maybe better with a wingman or two as chicas out for an evening of fun are rarely alone.

Hey guys,

Its my second time back to the DR. Last time was in 2005. I was a poor kid back then (LOL) and couldn't have as much fun back then. But I am fluent in Spanish and decent looking, so I hooked up with a hot girl from Santiago on my first night at Puerto Plata and she took me home to her family in Santiago, and I was with her for about 3-4 days. She fed, we hit off in bed, she took me to places where I was the only foreigner, and it was like a friggen awesome trip. I did hook up with some other girls as well toward the end.

Now I'm back and recently divorced, so I am looking forward to having fun. I will be coming in on the 29th of January and flying back on the second of feb.

I been reading the reports and looking at pics and videos off youtube, and would appreciate some input.

Base of action? Puerto Plata vs Sosua? Sosua seems to have it nice in the sense that all the girls are nearby, but I remember Puerto Plata having some a couple nice bars with gorgeous women. The girls were charging 100 dollars back then for a night but they were model type material. Other girls were asking for 20 bucks a night or so but the scorecard was more like a 5 or 6.

I never made it to sosua last time because the Santiago girl I was with had me at hola, and we left. But looking at a lot of the pics of the sosua girls they seem to be darker skinned and maybe not as eye appealing, maybe a little trashy. Are there places in Sosua where locals hang out or perhaps find lighter skin girls? I don't mind dark girls, I lived in the PR, but I'm not into Haitian type girls.

Since I am fluent in Spanish, and quite adventerous, I don't need to have girls right there in front of me (although that would be helpful). I don't mind digging around a bit, but at the same time I don't want to have my hotel in one town and have to drive every night to get action.

I wouldn't mind going to clubs where locals hang out. I look Spanish / puerto rican and am 39, so not that old haha.

By the way, how far a drive is it from plata to sosua? Is it safe to rent a jeep / car and drive there?

I did contemplate Santo domingo, bigger city and all. But no beach, water rafting or hiking. I did contemplate maybe hopping over there for a night or 2.

I also am going to try Dominican republic.

Thanks guys, I appreciate any 411.

[QUOTE=Marris; 1518852]Hey guys,

Its my second time back to the DR. Last time was in 2005. I was a poor kid back then (LOL) and couldn't have as much fun back then. But I am fluent in Spanish and decent looking, so I hooked up with a hot girl from Santiago on my first night at Puerto Plata and she took me home to her family in Santiago, and I was with her for about 3-4 days. She fed, we hit off in bed, she took me to places where I was the only foreigner, and it was like a friggen awesome trip. I did hook up with some other girls as well toward the end.

Now I'm back and recently divorced, so I am looking forward to having fun. I will be coming in on the 29th of January and flying back on the second of feb.

I been reading the reports and looking at pics and videos off youtube, and would appreciate some input.

Base of action? Puerto Plata vs Sosua? Sosua seems to have it nice in the sense that all the girls are nearby, but I remember Puerto Plata having some a couple nice bars with gorgeous women. The girls were charging 100 dollars back then for a night but they were model type material. Other girls were asking for 20 bucks a night or so but the scorecard was more like a 5 or 6.

I never made it to sosua last time because the Santiago girl I was with had me at hola, and we left. But looking at a lot of the pics of the sosua girls they seem to be darker skinned and maybe not as eye appealing, maybe a little trashy. Are there places in Sosua where locals hang out or perhaps find lighter skin girls? I don't mind dark girls, I lived in the PR, but I'm not into Haitian type girls.

Since I am fluent in Spanish, and quite adventerous, I don't need to have girls right there in front of me (although that would be helpful). I don't mind digging around a bit, but at the same time I don't want to have my hotel in one town and have to drive every night to get action.

I wouldn't mind going to clubs where locals hang out. I look Spanish / puerto rican and am 39, so not that old haha.

By the way, how far a drive is it from plata to sosua? Is it safe to rent a jeep / car and drive there?

I did contemplate Santo domingo, bigger city and all. But no beach, water rafting or hiking. I did contemplate maybe hopping over there for a night or 2.

I also am going to try Dominican republic.

Thanks guys, I appreciate any 411.[/QUOTE]If you took the time to scroll back maybe the last 10 pages of threads you would pretty much know what you need to know. Try this:

From POP airport pay a driver $20 and go to Sosua. Stay 2 nights at Hotel El Rancho (google it). Guest friendly, decent food on site, boutique hotel on a quiet dead end street but close to everything. Casa Cayena is another place right across the street. After banging out that which you seek, take a trip to Field of Dream (FOD) on the main highway towards the city of Puerto Plata (across from the Playa Dorada golf complex). Spend 2 nights there. Next, take a taxi to BlackBeard's in Costambar, about 20 minutes away. Finish up there for the rest of your trip. Pound one more out right after packing your bags, and grab a taxi back to POP. We expect a full trip report from you. Enjoy. Geo

[QUOTE=Marris;1518852]I also am going to try Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Would that be before your visits to Puerto Plata, Sosua and Santo Domingo, or after?

I is hard to say what is the best way to doit. If you just want to sport fuck Sosua will drain you in 3 day. Your dick will be on E. Since you speak Spanish you have way more options. I like to wife up with a hottie in SD then finish my trip wilding out in Sosua. BB and FOD are great if you are into brothel women. If you do Sosua they might bore you.

[QUOTE=Geolopes; 1519067]If you took the time to scroll back maybe the last 10 pages of threads you would pretty much know what you need to know. Try this:

From POP airport pay a driver $20 and go to Sosua. Stay 2 nights at Hotel El Rancho (google it). Guest friendly, decent food on site, boutique hotel on a quiet dead end street but close to everything. Casa Cayena is another place right across the street. After banging out that which you seek, take a trip to Field of Dream (FOD) on the main highway towards the city of Puerto Plata (across from the Playa Dorada golf complex). Spend 2 nights there. Next, take a taxi to BlackBeard's in Costambar, about 20 minutes away. Finish up there for the rest of your trip. Pound one more out right after packing your bags, and grab a taxi back to POP. We expect a full trip report from you. Enjoy. Geo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1519067]Stay 2 nights at Hotel El Rancho (google it). Guest friendly, decent food on site, boutique hotel on a quiet dead end street but close to everything.[/QUOTE]I also highly recommend the Hotel El Rancho. I have stayed there the last several trips.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1518283]You can pull in La Sirena. Even I have managed it four times but two of them turned out to be Sosua putas spending their ill-gotten gains.

But it is not the best place. Although it is a very average supermarket to us first-worlders, it is moderately upmarket for Dominicans. Only middle-class Dominicans can afford to shop there, plus putas anmd "kept women". It therefore follows that they have less incentive to look for a quick mil quiniento.

A better place is Jimenez the clothing store in Camino Real. A higher proportion of younger women and from a poorer social cross-section. But when I used to hunt for chicas in Pto Pta I would do it in the poor barrios.

If you have the social assets which I lack, younger, better-looking, good Latin dancer, decent Spanish, then you could try the bars along Luis Ginebra in the evenings and especially Friday thru Sunday. Maybe better with a wingman or two as chicas out for an evening of fun are rarely alone.[/QUOTE]I would agree about La Sirena. I have had offers there, but from off-duty putas rather than from middle class shoppers. You do see the occasional hottie there, but not very many, (I have been there at least 100 times) and most of the cashiers and employees not very alluring. There is one cashier who has a slutty Amy Winehouse look to her. I agree that Tienda Jimenez is probably a better pick-up spot. It is noticeable that the lines at Western Union in La Sirena have many more senders than receivers.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1519123]Would that be before your visits to Puerto Plata, Sosua and Santo Domingo, or after?[/QUOTE]LMAO! Too funny.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1519938]I would agree about La Sirena. I have had offers there, but from off-duty putas rather than from middle class shoppers. You do see the occasional hottie there, but not very many, (I have been there at least 100 times) and most of the cashiers and employees not very alluring. There is one cashier who has a slutty Amy Winehouse look to her. I agree that Tienda Jimenez is probably a better pick-up spot. It is noticeable that the lines at Western Union in La Sirena have many more senders than receivers.[/QUOTE]Nothing short of Amy Winehouse, eh? LOL.

I have had one interesting experience at La Sirena in Pto Pta. Must have been a year and half back. I started chatting with a girl and she wound up driving me back to the hotel. It was around 9 PM. This single woman had actually driven to La Sirena all by herself. This is also the only time, I ever saw a woman driver in the DR (I do not frequent SD. Presumably there, it is different). She gave me her number but the latter part of that episode is kind of blurry in my mind. I did not get to bed her but the correct sequence of events that night and the day after elude me.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1519123]Would that be before your visits to Puerto Plata, Sosua and Santo Domingo, or after?[/QUOTE]Hey buddy,

Thanks for noticing my mistake and bringing it to my attention. Keep up the good work!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1519180]I is hard to say what is the best way to doit. If you just want to sport fuck Sosua will drain you in 3 day. Your dick will be on E. Since you speak Spanish you have way more options. I like to wife up with a hottie in SD then finish my trip wilding out in Sosua. BB and FOD are great if you are into brothel women. If you do Sosua they might bore you.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Thought about going to santo Domingo. I figure they have a bit of everything. Clubbing culture and girls. But I only have 4 to 5 days. Not thrilled about taking a 4 to 5 hour bus. And wasting a chunk of my day in transit.

I contacted cc and el Rancho. And they just have a couple days availble. I forgot it was Super Bowl weekend.

Bb and fod seem cool but being young and fluent in Spanish. Don't think I need to start there. I checked Margarita condos and seem ok.

Santiago seems interesting but there is limited 411 on it. And yeah I guess I could head down and venture off the beaten path but not this particular trip.

Soo. I read the forum about driving between sosua and pp and heard that it's dangerous and it's really not that bad. When I was in cr I remember paying a shit load in insurance but after a week in my jeep I can see why. I apreciate any stories or cautionary tales.

And how busy does it get on Super Bowl weekend? I'm a eagles fan so my interest is gone LOL. Will there be more girls?

I am Planning a second trip to the DR. If I want to stay between 30 and 60 days, can I just get such a greater than 30 day duration visa at the airport, upon arrival?

Also, any recommendations on spacious 1 and 2 BR apartments in Puerto Plata with good a / see, great wifi, hot water, and in a decent quality building, in a relatively safe area? For example, Costambar would be fine, but I don't want to be at BB's. I am looking for minimum 1 week rental, but could go for 2-3 weeks, during a 6 week visit. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Marris;1520282]I read the forum about driving between sosua and pp and heard that it's dangerous and it's really not that bad. When I was in cr I remember paying a shit load in insurance but after a week in my jeep I can see why. I apreciate any stories or cautionary tales.[/QUOTE]1. You can search for videos on Youtube to see what the road is like between PP and Sosua. I had checked those prior to renting cars there the first time. These are two adjacent towns about 10-12 miles apart. The road is as fine as could be especially during the daytime, when visibility is better but negotiating that road should be a no-brainer. There are much worse roads, where you seriously need off-road vehicles but on this tract, a regular car is good enough, which should be cheaper than a SUV.

2. I am curious. Given that you are a Spanish speaker, I presume you would be living in the US close to other Spanish speakers. I would think for example, that someone who is in / around Spanish Harlem or Miami, will have easy access to women from a bunch of the Latin American countries, annulling the need to travel abroad. What am I missing here?

Flying into SD is about 200 less then flying to PP. SD is fun during the weekend but dead during the week. Keep these facts in mind. Sosua is good every night of the week. Travel to PP from Sosua is very cheap if you use the local transport, We are talking a 1 dollar each way. Late at night take a cab. There is no need to have a car in Sosua or SD. Sosua can be walked in 15 to 20 minutes. SD is such a bad place to drive and very complicated to get around that I prefer cabs. If you do a early bus ride between SD and Sosua it is nice relaxing diversion. You see the country side and can get some rest for a few hours and be in either place by lunch time. If you plan properly it works well. O yes it cost 8 bucks each way. I have a similar skill set of yours. I love the music, dancing and women. When in the DR I smile all day. When I go to Sd I like to hook up with girls I know for guaranteed fun. Looking in SD can be a crap shoot. It cost to much to get there and not to have a sure thing.

[QUOTE=Marris; 1520282]Hmmm. Thought about going to santo Domingo. I figure they have a bit of everything. Clubbing culture and girls. But I only have 4 to 5 days. Not thrilled about taking a 4 to 5 hour bus. And wasting a chunk of my day in transit.

I contacted cc and el Rancho. And they just have a couple days availble. I forgot it was Super Bowl weekend.

Bb and fod seem cool but being young and fluent in Spanish. Don't think I need to start there. I checked Margarita condos and seem ok.

Santiago seems interesting but there is limited 411 on it. And yeah I guess I could head down and venture off the beaten path but not this particular trip.

Soo. I read the forum about driving between sosua and pp and heard that it's dangerous and it's really not that bad. When I was in cr I remember paying a shit load in insurance but after a week in my jeep I can see why. I apreciate any stories or cautionary tales.

And how busy does it get on Super Bowl weekend? I'm a eagles fan so my interest is gone LOL. Will there be more girls?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haven123;1520516]If I want to stay between 30 and 60 days, can I just get such a greater than 30 day duration visa at the airport, upon arrival?[/QUOTE]It's not a visa, it's a tourist card and has a different legal status, but don't ask me what. And, no, you cannot extend it on arrival. You can extend it during your trip at the office in Puerto Plata, but I believe there is no financial advantage in doing so as against paying the overstay charge when you leave, which is trivial. I suppose it would give you legal status in certain situations but I cannot think what they might be.

DR1 is a a better place to ask those sort of questions which are not mongering specific.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1520564]It's not a visa, it's a tourist card and has a different legal status, but don't ask me what. And, no, you cannot extend it on arrival. You can extend it during your trip at the office in Puerto Plata, but I believe there is no financial advantage in doing so as against paying the overstay charge when you leave, which is trivial. I suppose it would give you legal status in certain situations but I cannot think what they might be.

DR1 is a a better place to ask those sort of questions which are not mongering specific.[/QUOTE]I frequently overstay, but have yet to pay the fine. There is a list somewhere, the fee for 1 month over to like 2 months is $20 or something like that. If you stay longer it gets higher. You can actually print one on line as well. There are posts for the fees and the page to print it out on the forum somewhere.

Search engines are great, it took me all of 3 seconds to find this.

[url]http://www.dgii.gov.do/tarjetaTuristica/EN/Support/faq/Paginas/default.aspx[/url]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1520540]2. I am curious. Given that you are a Spanish speaker, I presume you would be living in the US close to other Spanish speakers. I would think for example, that someone who is in / around Spanish Harlem or Miami, will have easy access to women from a bunch of the Latin American countries, annulling the need to travel abroad. What am I missing here?[/QUOTE]Many of us speak Spanish and are in the vicinity of Latinas in the USA. What you are missing is that nobody wants the Americanized version. Much different than the ones who can't leave Jurassic Park.

German Volkswagens are great, but buy one off the South American assembly line and you are asking for problems.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1520540]1. You can search for videos on Youtube to see what the road is like between PP and Sosua. I had checked those prior to renting cars there the first time. These are two adjacent towns about 10-12 miles apart. The road is as fine as could be especially during the daytime, when visibility is better but negotiating that road should be a no-brainer. There are much worse roads, where you seriously need off-road vehicles but on this tract, a regular car is good enough, which should be cheaper than a SUV.

2. I am curious. Given that you are a Spanish speaker, I presume you would be living in the US close to other Spanish speakers. I would think for example, that someone who is in / around Spanish Harlem or Miami, will have easy access to women from a bunch of the Latin American countries, annulling the need to travel abroad. What am I missing here?[/QUOTE]When I lived in DC I had Colombian and Venezuelan gfs. Don't ask me why but I married a half Indian Portuguese. Now I'm divorced. But I'm in the navy and currently living on an island in the Pacific. I been to Thailand Cambodia Bali Singapore and Hong Kong. I love Asian women. But I miss the Latin passion and the ass. I lived in Puerto Rico for 5 years so I miss that atmosphere.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1520559]Flying into SD is about 200 less then flying to PP. SD is fun during the weekend but dead during the week. Keep these facts in mind. Sosua is good every night of the week. Travel to PP from Sosua is very cheap if you use the local transport, We are talking a 1 dollar each way. Late at night take a cab. There is no need to have a car in Sosua or SD. Sosua can be walked in 15 to 20 minutes. SD is such a bad place to drive and very complicated to get around that I prefer cabs. If you do a early bus ride between SD and Sosua it is nice relaxing diversion. You see the country side and can get some rest for a few hours and be in either place by lunch time. If you plan properly it works well. O yes it cost 8 bucks each way. I have a similar skill set of yours. I love the music, dancing and women. When in the DR I smile all day. When I go to Sd I like to hook up with girls I know for guaranteed fun. Looking in SD can be a crap shoot. It cost to much to get there and not to have a sure thing.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for the info. I know what you mean. If I had more time I think I would venture off to SD Santiago or small towns. But I want the sure thing over the limited time I'm there. If I had more time I would spend more time exploring and taking risks. I'm only there for 4 nights and I won't see Latina ass for at least 6 months when I fly back to the pacific.

Question about Super Bowl. I noticed a lot of places are full. I figure more guys on vacation. But does that mean more girls coming up north?

And, anyone know of any clubs up in Puerto Plata where locals hang out? When I lived in Puerto Rico I would explore the island and go the village bars and clubs, and was loads of fun being the only foreigner. Locals seem to welcome me and don't have trouble mixing in. I wouldn't mind doing some reporting, but I just need a list of places to scope out.

[quote=mr enternational; 1520589]many of us speak spanish and are in the vicinity of latinas in the usa. What you are missing is that nobody wants the americanized version. Much different than the ones who can't leave jurassic park.

German volkswagens are great, but buy one off the south american assembly line and you are asking for problems.[/quote]well put mr. E

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1520585]Search engines are great, it took me all of 3 seconds to find this.

[url]http://www.dgii.gov.do/tarjetaTuristica/EN/Support/faq/Paginas/default.aspx[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Cagep and Charles Pooter! Got it on the tourist card terms. Any suggestions on a real super apt in POP, preferably in Costambaf? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1520151]I have had one interesting experience at La Sirena in Pto Pta. Must have been a year and half back. I started chatting with a girl and she wound up driving me back to the hotel. It was around 9 PM. This single woman had actually driven to La Sirena all by herself. This is also the only time, I ever saw a woman driver in the DR (I do not frequent SD. Presumably there, it is different).[/QUOTE]Wow. I have two chicks in Puerto Plata alone who both have cars, and you have only seen a woman driving once in all of DR? Well if you ever did want to see one then you were at the right place, as you found out. They drive through La Sirena constantly. Surely though you have seen women driving motorbikes right?

My first recollection of Sosua is that me and my friends were walking around on our first day trying to learn the place. We walked off the beach in front of the side entrance of Sosua Bay Hotel. I saw three chicks in an SUV and started hollering. Three of us got in the SUV and the girls took us to Puerto Plata and we drank and ate dinner on the malecon. When we got back to Sosua one of my friends ended up fucking the girl he was with. Another friend let his girl go. My girl was talking about $100 so I laughed in her face.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1520589]Many of us speak Spanish and are in the vicinity of Latinas in the USA. What you are missing is that nobody wants the Americanized version. Much different than the ones who can't leave Jurassic Park.[/QUOTE]I get it now; In any case, I wish I were closer to even the Americanized versions where I live. I would not have to deal with the drought then. LOL!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1520685]Wow. I have two chicks in Puerto Plata alone who both have cars, and you have only seen a woman driving once in all of DR? Well if you ever did want to see one then you were at the right place, as you found out. They drive through La Sirena constantly. Surely though you have seen women driving motorbikes right?

My first recollection of Sosua is that me and my friends were walking around on our first day trying to learn the place. We walked off the beach in front of the side entrance of Sosua Bay Hotel. I saw three chicks in an SUV and started hollering.[/QUOTE]Yes, only time so far. This was my second time in the country so when she offered to give me the ride, I was taken aback. She drove a passat which was in good condition. What really impressed me was that this woman, around 25, did not even blink giving a completely stranger a ride at night. Would never happen where I live and a contributing factor to why I love that country. So different from my extensive Asian experiences where my interaction was only with the "professional" class during business travel. I wonder if Argentina, Peru or Chile would be akin to this place. I had another girl from Santiago, who I took to Cayo Arena, who was being the backseat driver (and I loved it) which is why I figured out she drove but for some reason, I have not noticed women drivers. I have seen women on scooter (pasola). A girl in Bonao, came looking for me riding one as I waited at the gas station, but then again, not too often. Never on motorbikes that I can think of. Perhaps because I travel alone and so keep my eyes open for other stuff so certain things may not register with me.

So far, I know only one woman who can speak / write in English to manage a serious conversation and another I bumped into, at McD in Santiago, who was in Med School and her father came to pick her up in a Lexus SUV. Must be costing a pretty penny in that land. I suspect the social class I frequent is not necessarily in the category that can afford vehicles and contrarily if they did, they would not be looking for me. After all I offer nothing. No love, no long term commitment but only the here and now and that too from a man past his prime. LOL!

[QUOTE=Marris;1520599]When I lived in DC I had Colombian and Venezuelan gfs. Don't ask me why but I married a half Indian Portuguese. Now I'm divorced. But I'm in the navy and currently living on an island in the pacific. I been to Thailand Cambodia Bali Singapore and Hong Kong. I love Asian women. But I miss the Latin passion and the ass. I lived in Puerto Rico for 5 years so I miss that atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I thought you were a native Spanish speaker and so privy to special treatments where the native speakers abound. Like Miami. LOL.

I guess who you marry is written in the stars. I have been to the major Asian places. Bangkok, KL, Singapore, Jakarta and Hong Kong around 40 times (and several times the other spots like the Philippines, Korea or Japan) but my relationship was always with the professionals and without the benefit of being able to speak their native tongue. So while good, as Frannie mentioned, the women were not any hornier as sex was just a job. The DR experience for me is of a different nature as I rarely deal with the professionals and is more satisfying on several planes. Physical attribute not withstanding.

On a separate note, it is interesting to note that a large number of people here are on the Armed services. I wonder if there are people from the academies.

I am going to Blackbeard in about 2 mths, and have read many excellent posts in this forum. Great Jobs, Bro.

Just a quick question. Are chicas greek friendly at BB? Do I need to pay extra for Greek?

Thanks

[QUOTE=StrawBoy; 1520995]I am going to Blackbeard in about 2 mths, and have read many excellent posts in this forum. Great Jobs, Bro.

Just a quick question. Are chicas greek friendly at BB? Do I need to pay extra for Greek?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Generally 90% of the girls in the DR don't do greek but if you ask the mamason I'm sure there is one or two that will give it up but you are certainly going to pay a few bucks extra. I had a girl at BB's give it up to me on my very first trip to BB's eight years ago but she was a very special girl who is still in my rotation to this day.

Mamasans can help sometimes, and even if chica says no via mamasan, she might say yes to you in the room.

A lot depend on the size of your dick.

Prices for anal can vary a lot, I was quoted anywhere in 1, 000-3, 000 range.

[QUOTE=StrawBoy; 1520995]I am going to Blackbeard in about 2 mths, and have read many excellent posts in this forum. Great Jobs, Bro.

Just a quick question. Are chicas greek friendly at BB? Do I need to pay extra for Greek?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StrawBoy; 1520995]I am going to Blackbeard in about 2 mths, and have read many excellent posts in this forum. Great Jobs, Bro.

Just a quick question. Are chicas greek friendly at BB? Do I need to pay extra for Greek?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I do not know if they are still doing it now but Blackbeards usually has a book listing what the chicas like. Just ask management about which chica does anal. I am sure they have been asked this question before.

It does not list all available chicas, and there is no 'extra services' info in the book.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1522445]I do not know if they are still doing it now but Blackbeards usually has a book listing what the chicas like. Just ask management about which chica does anal. I am sure they have been asked this question before.[/QUOTE]

Anal is fairly taboo, but that doesn't mean it is not available. It may be advisable not to discuss it except very privately with the girl. It's been many years since I visited BB, but I had agirl there for TLN who asked me for it. Of course I complied. The following night I had her and another girl together and my girl said we could not go backdoor and asked me not to tell the other girl we had. I concluded that some girls who offer it would rather keep it on the hush hush. So asking a third party may not yield accurate information.

[QUOTE=StrawBoy; 1520995]I am going to Blackbeard in about 2 mths, and have read many excellent posts in this forum. Great Jobs, Bro.

Just a quick question. Are chicas greek friendly at BB? Do I need to pay extra for Greek?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Most of the chicas do not like when other chicas know about backdoor access.

Not sure if it's because of 'shame' or an attempt to add 'extra value' to themselves.

[QUOTE=Strike2;1522684]Anal is fairly taboo, but that doesn't mean it is not available. It may be advisable not to discuss it except very privately with the girl. It's been many years since I visited BB, but I had agirl there for TLN who asked me for it. Of course I complied. The following night I had her and another girl together and my girl said we could not go backdoor and asked me not to tell the other girl we had. I concluded that some girls who offer it would rather keep it on the hush hush. So asking a third party may not yield accurate information.[/QUOTE]

I have a DR girl who enjoys being reemed. It took me by surprise but she backed it up and made me like it. It is not something I seek but I did enjoy it.

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1522928]Most of the chicas do not like when other chicas know about backdoor access.

Not sure if it's because of 'shame' or an attempt to add 'extra value' to themselves.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1523152]I have a DR girl who enjoys being reemed. It took me by surprise but she backed it up and made me like it. It is not something I seek but I did enjoy it.[/QUOTE]I just don't get it. Then again I am not a head man either 45 second to 2 minutes and now I want punta. I have had girls beg me. I tried it and just didn't like the look or idea. When I was younger my EX use to say " you know I don't mind anal" all the time. I guess what she really meant was " How about you jack rabbit in my ass sometimes".

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1514228]I have been to FOD several times in the past year and I agree that their reservation system sucks balls and I have told them this more than once, they are the only place that does it this way and they lose business because of it, very foolish of them especially when the damn hotel is never more than half full. Now I just show up without a reservation and haven't had a problem getting a room, if they were fully booked I would just go elsewhere but they are never fully booked with maybe the exception of Super Bowl weekend and a few times a year when a certain other forum holds a private party.

That said, when it comes to the girls I would stay at FOD over BB without question, they aren't as business like and if you hang around to see their full lineup they have a better selection without a doubt, I stayed at BB's for the pyrate debacle at halloween and was not impressed by their lineup. The first two girls I went with at BB's wanted to give me a covered BJ, I kicked them both out of the room, then I took a girl for TLN and she was great that night but got up at 5 am Got dressed and said she had to go back to Santiago to be with her baby, of course she wanted her full 3000 pesos but I gave her 1600 and kicked her to the curb too. I actually ended up going to FOD and took a girl from there back to BB's for a few days. But at least BB's has a functioning jacuzzi.[/QUOTE]Just made my reservation for FOD's. I made it for a Wednesday, which happens to be their bikini contest so to play it safe I'm going to make a rez. Guess I will figure this WU thing out tomorrow. I've searched hard and still no vids or pics from a FOD bikini contest have surfaced. Well intel has told me that some of my Blackbeards favorites have relocated to here so I'm going to give it a good try.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1523213]I just don't get it. Then again I am not a head man either 45 second to 2 minutes and now I want punta. I have had girls beg me. I tried it and just didn't like the look or idea. When I was younger my EX use to say " you know I don't mind anal" all the time. I guess what she really meant was " How about you jack rabbit in my ass sometimes".[/QUOTE]I agree. From my experience, anal is one of those things that looks better in porn films than real life. Porn actresses have enemas before shooting a scene. Not so in real life. Anal is also high risk sex in regards to STDs. Why do you think it spread so fast in the gay community.

That being said, I have enjoyed anal as an once in a blue moon thing more with girlfriends. There is something about getting a woman who is hesitant about anal to finally submit to it. Its a power thing more than a pure sex thing. One of my personal little pet likes.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1523410]Its a power thing more than a pure sex thing.[/QUOTE]Didn't Eddie Murphy said that same thing about jamming Mike Tyson. LOL

Ifoundthechicas. Com organizes party at FOD in March.

As far as I know there were such parties at FOD and BB in the past.

Can anyone who visited previous parties please share your experience. Is it worth it? What kind of activities are available during these parties?

The guys pool their money and by food and drinks for partying, They have the girls come over party. They have different events for the girls. Best blow job best les scene, etc. For guys who like BB and FOD have a great time. The girls are pumped because it is extra money. Not my scene but these cause throw a great party. Friendly atmosphere.

[QUOTE=Bliadun; 1523905]Ifoundthechicas. Com organizes party at FOD in March.

As far as I know there were such parties at FOD and BB in the past.

Can anyone who visited previous parties please share your experience. Is it worth it? What kind of activities are available during these parties?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1523905]Ifoundthechicas. Com organizes party at FOD in March.[/QUOTE]This looks like its owned by FOD & BB as thats 90 percent of the content.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1523922]The guys pool their money and by food and drinks for partying, They have the girls come over party. They have different events for the girls. Best blow job best les scene, etc. For guys who like BB and FOD have a great time. The girls are pumped because it is extra money. Not my scene but these cause throw a great party. Friendly atmosphere.[/QUOTE]It was a reported over on Yimmy's board that the recent one at Mary Rose in Sosua was an over-priced bust. Not sure how succesful the ones at FOD have been.

I use to follow the I found the chicas site. It was not bad but it focused on Black Beards way to much for me. Most events are centered around BB. The running the site is focused getting dollars from sponsors and members. Recently they been FOD way more. The events are like frat parties. To give their credit they put a lot of effort in planning but lurking in the shadows in wsome one trying to get paid.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1523989]It was a reported over on Yimmy's board that the recent one at Mary Rose in Sosua was an over-priced bust. Not sure how succesful the ones at FOD have been.[/QUOTE]

Can you share a link to this board?

[QUOTE=Llttf;1523989]It was a reported over on Yimmy's board that the recent one at Mary Rose in Sosua was an over-priced bust. Not sure how succesful the ones at FOD have been.[/QUOTE]

Where is the best place to exchange money? Airport At pop? Pop? Sosua?

Is there an ATM at the pop airport?

Can I get a cell phone at Sosua?

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1524105]Can you share a link to this board?[/QUOTE]No, he cannot.

Hello,

Road trip up that way next month. Any guest friendly hotels, Cabanas in Luperon and North of there? Any suggestions?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1524105]Can you share a link to this board?[/QUOTE]Jackson does not allow links to other boards on ISG

Best rate I remember was at Caribe Tours bus terminal in Puerto Plata.

[QUOTE=Marris; 1524468]Where is the best place to exchange money? Airport At pop? Pop? Sosua?

Is there an ATM at the pop airport?

Can I get a cell phone at Sosua?

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]

Here is a good video on where to get the best rates in Sosua. In google copy these key words.

"Hobotraveler youtube sosua exchange".

[QUOTE=MattInNorfolk; 1524673]Hello,

Road trip up that way next month. Any guest friendly hotels, Cabanas in Luperon and North of there? Any suggestions?

Thanks[/QUOTE]They are campo habitations all over the DR. All one must do is ask the locals about where they are. Most of your cheaper country side places do not have a / see or hot water but one gets use to that quick when they start looking at how cheap the price is. If you are indeed taking a real road trip and don't care about time or being at a certain place you are going to have a great time. Have a 4 wheel drive and start everyday early in the morning to get the most the DR has to offer. You only live once do it up right

[QUOTE=MattInNorfolk; 1524673]Hello,

Road trip up that way next month. Any guest friendly hotels, Cabanas in Luperon and North of there? Any suggestions?

Thanks[/QUOTE]The main road to Luperon is a decent paved road but if you get off to see the sights on any side road they are not so good and unpaved if it is raining it changes the whole game

[QUOTE=Grub1;1524843]They are campo habitations all over the DR. All one must do is ask the locals about where they are. Most of your cheaper country side places do not have a / see or hot water but one gets use to that quick when they start looking at how cheap the price is.[/QUOTE]Or either one begins to declare that he does not care how much he has to pay as long as he can get some a/c, hot water, and away from the mosquitoes.

[QUOTE=Marris; 1524468]Where is the best place to exchange money? Airport At pop? Pop? Sosua?

Is there an ATM at the pop airport?

Can I get a cell phone at Sosua?

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Avoid airport exchanges. (I would guess in most countries?)

Otherwise there is not enough difference in rates between reputable places to be worth travelling from one town to another just to change money, or even travelling within a larger place like Puerto Plata. You would spend more on transport or gas, never mind the wasted holiday time.

Change a little in your home country or your hotel just to see you through your first few hours otherwise you will spend more on taxis looking for a place to change money urgently.

In Sosua Western Union is good if you are fairly nearby.

In Puerto Plata the locals use RUSA (a few minutes from the central square) as on average it remains the best but Caribe Tours and Western Union are very good if you happen to be nearer them.

If you are changing US$10, 000 and upwards in one hit it might be worth you looking for the best rate, but I sure hope your security is good to make that worthwhile doing.

Refuse to accept 2000 peso bills unless you know how to spot the [excellent] bogus notes now in circulation.

Try to avoid ATMs not outside banks. If there is a malfunction at a stand-alone ATM you may waste a lot of time trying to get it sorted. In fact, better to avoid ATMs altogether and draw cash inside the bank during opening hours. Safer, and you can ask for small bills and coins which are hard to find here.

Yes, good idea to buy a cellphone if here for more than a few days. You can get one to make and receive calls and store chicas' and friends' numbers for 500 pesos plus pay-as-you-go minutes. Give it away as a tip your last day if not coming back fairly soon.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1524855]Or either one begins to declare that he does not care how much he has to pay as long as he can get some a/c, hot water, and away from the mosquitoes.[/QUOTE]Yes that is me after spending to many days in the campo's

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1524865]Avoid airport exchanges. (I would guess in most countries?)

Otherwise there is not enough difference in rates between reputable places to be worth travelling from one town to another just to change money, or even travelling within a larger place like Puerto Plata. You would spend more on transport or gas, never mind the wasted holiday time.

Change a little in your home country or your hotel just to see you through your first few hours otherwise you will spend more on taxis looking for a place to change money urgently.

In Sosua Western Union is good if you are fairly nearby.

In Puerto Plata the locals use RUSA (a few minutes from the central square) as on average it remains the best but Caribe Tours and Western Union are very good if you happen to be nearer them.

If you are changing US$10, 000 and upwards in one hit it might be worth you looking for the best rate, but I sure hope your security is good to make that worthwhile doing.

Refuse to accept 2000 peso bills unless you know how to spot the [excellent] bogus notes now in circulation.

Try to avoid ATMs not outside banks. If there is a malfunction at a stand-alone ATM you may waste a lot of time trying to get it sorted. In fact, better to avoid ATMs altogether and draw cash inside the bank during opening hours. Safer, and you can ask for small bills and coins which are hard to find here.

Yes, good idea to buy a cellphone if here for more than a few days. You can get one to make and receive calls and store chicas' and friends' numbers for 500 pesos plus pay-as-you-go minutes. Give it away as a tip your last day if not coming back fairly soon.[/QUOTE]For the most part, but DO NOT use American Express Checks. You will find yourself in long lines at banks, then you may find out that the branch does not exchange them. The best way to get money is at a bank ATM with a debit card. Best rate, safe, and convenient.

[QUOTE=Marris; 1524468]Where is the best place to exchange money? Airport At pop? Pop? Sosua?

Is there an ATM at the pop airport?

Can I get a cell phone at Sosua?

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]There's a phone store on every corner. You can buy a cheap phone with a SIM card for 750 pesos, about $18 bucks, once you have a number, it is good for the next trip to the DR, though the remaining minutes may expire. And, you can always use the phone in exchange for the last romp in the sack. Maybe, chicas here expect mobile phones with all the features.

For DR non-sex related topics?

DR 1 Travel Forum is good.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1526297]For DR non-sex related topics?[/QUOTE]

Get off plane and see the same 4-5 guy band that was there 5 years ago. Also notice lots of airport improvements. Money exchange right in front of you. Just for info I check the rate and its 36. 5. Always known of Jenny's to have the best rate so I wait until I get there. Pay the $10 entrance tax, grab my luggage, go through customs, passport stamped and I'm off.

As agreed, the Blackbeards driver is waiting for me. Later I found out this would cost me $45. Posted airport rates were not as high and could probably be negotiated for less. But if you prefer the relative security from the unknown just have BB arrange for you. Stop at Jenny's, purchase a few personal items and exchange money at 42. 8. Even with the stop, airport parking spot to BB front door is 42 minutes. Easy check in and discount if you pay cash.

Food and beverage: affordable rates. 4 presidentes. 2 mixed drinks, plus food totaled less than 1060dop. I didn't even worry about the change.

Lodging: decent enough room size for my needs. Bit of an ant issue. Room has TV with English channels, air conditioning, safe, and mini bar. I enjoy BB's safety.

Talent and Jacuzzi: decent choices. 1600dop / 40usd short or 3000dop / 80usd long. Bit of a break if you pay in pesos. Wonder if that's the cost for the girls to transfer USD back into pesos.

The way the it's setup now puts me in the mind of how the playboy mansion grotto must be like. Grab your girl get naked and hop in. BBBJ from each of the two I was with. No leche. If you do you have to pay the short time rate. I remember someone here asking about Greek. I discreetly touched each on the brown eye and asked, te gusta? One said yes, the other said no. I picked one and went to the room. Total jacuzzi was maybe 15 minutes. Could be a few minutes more or less. Good way to give the girls a test drive. In the room my girl aimed to please (and she did).

It was Mardi Gras night so after the session she dressed in a cute little outfit. Downstairs I see all the other girls are also dressed. Everyone moves up to the crows nest. The girls are loose, friendly and looking to have fun. If you get the newsletter, I see them take the group photo that they always post. Guesstimate. 25 girls and 6 guys including me.

i was just on the nort coast recently and decided to give stay at fod again for a night. i had stayed about a year ago under the current management and back in '10 under the previous owner. unfortunately, after this last trip i simply cannot recommend staying at this place even for one night! unless major improvements are made, this place is only good for the occasional daytime drive-by if you're already in the area.

just to get it out of the way, the facilities are fine; in fact i can say that the place is in as good a shape as i've ever seen it. the food is still solid as well. the problem comes to down to the talent (or lack thereof) and how the chicas are managed. of course, the only real comparable to this place is the place in costumbar (which i won't plug here). i happened to stay at the costambar spot earlier in the trip & fod is a rip-off by comparison!

first off, you'll see no more than 20 girls there on a given day, which is what i expected based on recent reports. however, the day and next morning that i was there i only saw 1 'shift' of chicas. about 12-15 of them show up between 11am and 1pm. then the rest trickle in throughout the day until around 7-8pm, when the full lineup is available. these numbers would work for 1 day if the quality was decent or if the guests are not picky. unfortunately neither was the case for me.

i was honestly shocked by how poor the talent was this trip after my previous 2 stays at fod. half of the females there had no business whatsoever working in any p4p environment, especially one catered towards foreign mongers! for example, an ugly, older lookin female showed up & i thought she was a cleaning lady. i shook my head when i saw her sit at the bar & start winking at customers! another 30% were not that bad to look at, but not my type either. the remaining chicas either had flaws that were dealbreakers for me or weren't available. this last point is the key.

what really killed my stay was that there was only 1 chick that i wanted. she was built how i like, cute & a solid 8 on my scale. the problem was she was attached to the hip of another monger! later in the day i found out that this other monger booked the girl for the entire day and was holdin on to her for his entire trip (which of course included my stay there)! this is no bueno when you consider the low quantity (17-20) and low quality.

around 8pm the last new chica showed up & she had some potential. the frame seemed to be my speed, but what she was wearin suggested that she was coverin up an unflatterin stomach. given that i was really thirsty, i went ahead & interviewed her. sadly, my suspicions proved true, be / see she showed me pics of herself & her kids showin that her mid-section was a problem. so i ended up not pulling zip from the place. and if anyone thinks i might be too picky, when i was at the costambar place a few days earlier, i always had 3+ to choose from that were exactly what i was lookin for!

the big problem with the fod talent is that there's not enough variety. the chicas were mostly either chunky or spinners, with not much in between. imo, the beauty of dominican women lies in their variety, so it's unacceptable to give overnight guests such a limited choice. tbh, it seems like the management feels that they're doing there job by getting any chicas they can find to sit at the bar!

the last point worth making is that i had no opportunity to complain once i saw how bleak the situation was. during my full day there, the local manager who speaks english was in & out in the daytime & disappeared at night. the expat management was nowhere to be found about 30 mins after i arrived. and of course fod doesn't have a 'mamasan' to oversee the girls. so most of the time the only non-puta employees around were the bartenders / wait staff. this was also the case the next morning / early afternoon, before i left.

bottom line: now i know why it's so hard to find pictures of fod chicas! as long as the talent pool is this weak, there's absolutely no reason to book a room at this place. if you stop by to check out what they've got, you might find a decent option for a st session onsite or a phone number for off-campus activities. it's a shame, because the location and facilities have a lot to offer. at the end of the day though, you just can't run a successful mongering all-inclusive with sub-par women.

[QUOTE=Rey Kong6; 1526754]I was just on the Nort Coast recently and decided to give stay at FOD again for a night. I had stayed about a year ago under the current management and back in '10 under the previous owner. Unfortunately, after this last trip I simply cannot recommend staying at this place even for one night! Unless major improvements are made, this place is only good for the occasional daytime drive-by if you're already in the area.

Just to get it out of the way, the facilities are fine; in fact I can say that the place is in as good a shape as I've ever seen it. The food is still solid as well. The problem comes to down to the talent (or lack thereof) and how the chicas are managed. Of course, the only real comparable to this place is the place in Costumbar (which I won't plug here). I happened to stay at the Costambar spot earlier in the trip & FOD is a rip-off by comparison![/QUOTE]I couldn't disagree more with your report but hey that's what the forums are for I guess.

I have been to FOD five times this year and "the place in Costambar" twice and I would hands down take the top ten girls at FOD over the top ten at BB's any day. The issue is that BB's has two shifts and FOD has five, a mistake on FOD's part in my opinion but if you are staying there then over the course of a day or two you will see some awesome talent and their performance and attitude are superior in every way to BB's, again this is just my opinion.

Pedro, the owner of FOD and his wife and daughter all act as mamasan / mamason's and will help in any way that they can. Pedro is at the facility every single solitary night until closing, in close to 40 nights there wasn't a night when he wasn't, his wife is there every day during the day. All of the bartenders are bilingual, the waiter is bilingual and Pedro is bilingual, not sure what you are looking for.

I hope I wasn't the guy who had the only girl you were interested in under wraps, if you had asked me, Pedro or one of his family members or even a bartender to ask me how long I was hanging on to her I would have cut her loose amigo, plenty of fish in the pond. Are either of these two her?