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[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2828487]I've had no problems with the website. And my last trip to Medellin I cleared immigration in 5 minutes including the wait and spent more time waiting for my back to show up than it took to clear the line for the scanner in customs.[/QUOTE]When was your last trip?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2828502]When was your last trip?[/QUOTE]May / June 2023. Arrived in May and left in June. I had a great trip. Really enjoyed myself! The airline was Wingo.

From SDQ: Where you enter the line to check in the Wingo employee was insistent that I show the Check-Mig form before I was allowed in line. When I arrived in MDE, The immigration officer only asked me for my passport and one other question: "[I]How long was my stay?[/I]".

As I stated before, it took me 5 minutes to clear immigration. The longest part of the entire process was waiting for my bag. And that was after I spent time in DUFRY looking for my favorite bottle of JD.

[QUOTE=Botti224;2826502]Hi,

I'm living in Bogot for a while and while I had a lot of sex here I didn't went to a Gangbang. It's really an experience I'm looking forward to make. So does anyone know some club /"organization" that organizes Gangbangs?

I'm especially interested in doing that in areas that are not the big cities but Bogot, Medellin etc. Would be better than nothing.[/QUOTE]Start w going to swingers clubs and ask around there. I just Google; swinger medellin Bogota there com up direccions, go there, should not be a problem.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2828509]May / June 2023. Arrived in May and left in June.[/QUOTE]You stated in your post that you've had no problems with the check-mig website. For present day discussions, it matters if you were using the new or old form. I never had a problem with the old form. I still can't get the new form to go past step 4. I tried it on two computers and a cell phone, in both English and Spanish, being signed in and not being signed in. It's obvious an answer I'm giving is triggering a rejection, but the error I get is "Bad Gateway" rather than identifying the error.

There is a report of distinction which has a section about swingers

[QUOTE=Botti224;2826502]Hi,

I'm living in Bogot for a while and while I had a lot of sex here I didn't went to a Gangbang. It's really an experience I'm looking forward to make. So does anyone know some club /"organization" that organizes Gangbangs?

I'm especially interested in doing that in areas that are not the big cities but Bogot, Medellin etc. Would be better than nothing.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Botti224;2826502]Hi,

I'm living in Bogot for a while and while I had a lot of sex here I didn't went to a Gangbang. It's really an experience I'm looking forward to make. So does anyone know some club /"organization" that organizes Gangbangs?

I'm especially interested in doing that in areas that are not the big cities but Bogot, Medellin etc. Would be better than nothing.[/QUOTE]Interested as well. There is some Reddit swinger reviews, not much to go on.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2828856]You stated in your post that you've had no problems with the check-mig website. For present day discussions, it matters if you were using the new or old form. I never had a problem with the old form. I still can't get the new form to go past step 4. I tried it on two computers and a cell phone, in both English and Spanish, being signed in and not being signed in. It's obvious an answer I'm giving is triggering a rejection, but the error I get is "Bad Gateway" rather than identifying the error.[/QUOTE]I don't know if it is new site or the old site. I am new to travel to Colombia. But now that I have made my first trip, I know I will be making lots more.

I am using a iPhone 14 Pro MaX 512 GB. I enter the chick-mig website I just follow the instructions and complete the entries. And just completed the form for my next flight without a problem. I was able to download my phone and received a email from Check-Mig.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2829599]I don't know if it is new site or the old site. I am new to travel to Colombia. But now that I have made my first trip, I know I will be making lots more.

I am using a iPhone 14 Pro MaX 512 GB. I enter the chick-mig website I just follow the instructions and complete the entries. And just completed the form for my next flight without a problem. I was able to download my phone and received a email from Check-Mig.[/QUOTE]This was your first Colombia trip?

Ok, so now I understand why your views on certain things that occur there was different. After you complete making more trips to Colombia, specifically Cartagena, I'm waiting to see if your views will stay the same LOL.

An hour wait to get out of the CTG airport. The line for Colombians was less than a minute long.

I had not used my Priority pass card before. CTG airport has a priority pass lounge. It is right next to the bakery with long lines. They have free finger food, wi fi, chairs and a sofa. It is okay. I would not pay for it but it is okay.

Bogota is a different story. The PP lounge there has a full bar, full menu, and when we entered, there were actually two women playing violins. This was such a high end experience I was afraid my step daughter to be would get spoiled. This was in the domestic wing of the Bogota airport.

I am sure most guys who fly to Colombia go through Fort Lauderdale. I got the Barclays American card and got like 60,000 free miles. I used them and went through Miami. I usually fly Spirit and upgrade to a nicer seat when I go through Lauderdale. Thing is I do not like the terminal there and often have been stuck there for hours at a time.

Miami has the American Express Centurion lounge and the AA lounges. I love the Amex lounges: good food, open bar, comfortable chairs, fast wi fi. Only downside is they are often crowded. Thing is the terminal that uses the cheaper South American flights like Avianca and latam do not have the lounges.

I live in Texas and the five hour direct flights wear me out unless I am in business class on the planes. This flight was smooth. Both flights were two and a half hours and in between I was in the comfortable Amex lounge sipping a cocktail, eating a good dinner, and reading on my tablet. When I touched down in Colombia and back here in Texas, I was relaxed and ready to run right off the plane. I cannot say that about my other flights. Those lounges can make a huge difference when you travel.

On my second trip to Colombia I arrived at MDE. After we deplaned followed everyone to stand in the visitors immigration line. I was only asked why I was visiting and how long would I be staying. I spent exactly 35 minutes in line (including the immigration processing and interview). I know because I timed it and made a note of it in order to add to the factual knowledge of this forum.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2831102]This was your first Colombia trip?[/QUOTE]Yes, I posted about the first couple of days in the Medellin thread.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2831102]Ok, so now I understand why your views on certain things that occur there was different. After you complete making more trips to Colombia, specifically Cartagena, I'm waiting to see if your views will stay the same LOL.[/QUOTE]I actually have no plans to visit Cartagena. My plans are to eventually make a trip to Cali. But as I wrote in my trip report in the Medellin thread I enjoyed my trip.

With all due respect, I suspect you don't know jack about me unless you have read my extensive collection of posts in the Dominican Republic forum where I live. You see, when I visit Colombia, I am not come from a "sex prison" county. I come from a land of abundance when it comes to pussy. My initial visit to Colombia was because I had heard good things about it and I was curious. But as I have written: "Don't believe the hype".

I am an independent thinker that will not bow down to any amount of personal criticism nor change my thoughts in order to fit in and be "one of the boys". That simply is not possible with me. But if you are making reference to certain individuals who are choosing to exercise the privileges given by the passport issued to them from their respective countries, then my views on the individuals commenting about that will never change. I know, what they are trying to imply with their coded language.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2833607]On my second trip to Colombia I arrived at MDE. After we deplaned followed everyone to stand in the visitors immigration line. I was only asked why I was visiting and how long would I be staying. I spent exactly 35 minutes in line (including the immigration processing and interview). I know because I timed it and made a note of it in order to add to the factual knowledge of this forum.

Yes, I posted about the first couple of days in the Medellin thread.

I actually have no plans to visit Cartagena. My plans are to eventually make a trip to Cali. But as I wrote in my trip report in the Medellin thread I enjoyed my trip.

With all due respect, I suspect you don't know jack about me unless you have read my extensive collection of posts in the Dominican Republic forum where I live. You see, when I visit Colombia, I am not come from a "sex prison" county. I come from a land of abundance when it comes to pussy. My initial visit to Colombia was because I had heard good things about it and I was curious. But as I have written: "Don't believe the hype".

I am an independent thinker that will not bow down to any amount of personal criticism nor change my thoughts in order to fit in and be "one of the boys". That simply is not possible with me. But if you are making reference to certain individuals who are choosing to exercise the privileges given by the passport issued to them from their respective countries, then my views on the individuals commenting about that will never change. I know, what they are trying to imply with their coded language.[/QUOTE]I actually don't know much about you, I saw a new name posting in the Cartegena thread and the way the replies were worded I thought you were there before and currently there so I was wondering how you did not see or avoided certain things going on that I previously experienced. But then after reading your post in this section of the forum it became clear why, and I understood. It was an invalid conversation due to I was speaking from a perspective of someone who has been going to Cartegena for about 5 years, 2 trips a year minimum, and I stay for 3 weeks minimum at a time and this was your first time in a completely different city so it was a complete misunderstanding on my part.

I don't venture into the DR thread which is why your name was unfamiliar to me. I've done my trips there and no plans to go back, the drama there got way too stupid among the men who kept acting like they were still in high school always trying to prove something to someone, always have to be the loudest person in the vicinity, even though they wrong they still want to be right, so Cartegena was my escape until the same type of individuals, mainly the ones that go to Sosua, started showing up in Cartegena with the same behavior after the pandemic.

As for your initial visit based on hearing good things, I'm going to guess you found out the many half truths about Medelin. Its basically a weekend place and it has to have the type of girls the gringo finds attractive. I tried it as well last year and it was not for me, the girls were not to my liking so I ended up flying in one of my Chicas from Cartegena and did sightseeing.

Well, maybe Cali will live up to the hype. Enjoy it for us both.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2833664]But then after reading your post in this section of the forum it became clear why, and I understood.[/QUOTE]I glad you have a clear understanding of my posts at this time.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2833664]I don't venture into the DR thread which is why your name was unfamiliar to me. I've done my trips there and no plans to go back, the drama there got way too stupid among the men who kept acting like they were still in high school always trying to prove something to someone, always have to be the loudest person in the vicinity, even though they wrong they still want to be right, so Cartegena was my escape until the same type of individuals, mainly the ones that go to Sosua, started showing up in Cartegena with the same behavior after the pandemic.[/QUOTE]I not trying to thread jack but let me tell you that the Dominican Republic or Sosua is nothing like individuals who write about the place in the Dominican Republic thread. My entire purpose of being on ISG in the Dominican Republic thread to help people the way I got help in the beginning. After 10 years of "boots on the ground" living in the place, nobody can tell me jack about the Dominion Republic. So if you want to get the real deal about the place search for my posts over there. Or contact me directly. I keep a open mind about things other than [B]"Pussy is Pussy"[/B] and Man Law 101.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2833664]As for your initial visit based on hearing good things, I'm going to guess you found out the many half truths about Medelin. It's basically a weekend place and it has to have the type of girls the gringo finds attractive. I tried it as well last year and it was not for me, the girls were not to my liking so I ended up flying in one of my Chicas from Cartegena and did sightseeing.[/QUOTE]I understand what you mean. I like Medellin, but in my opinion it has been hyped up when it comes to the girls. But for me it is like a breath of fresh air. A fully functioning city, well organized and with solid infrastructure. I goto Medellin because I have a real girlfriend and a business there. Works out quite nicely for me. If I say so myself.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2833664]Well, maybe Cali will live up to the hype. Enjoy it for us both.[/QUOTE]Cali has no hype to live up to in my mind. I have one friend who lives there and another friend who visits there often. These are two sources of information that I trust about Cali and I met them in the Dominican Republic portion of the fourm. I know exactly what to expect. From the pictures of the girls to the description of day to day life in Cali I KNOW I will like it better than Medellin. I got my hands on some 15 year old rum there and I didn't even know they distilled rum in Colombia. So my trips so far have increased my life knowledge.

Hopefully this new base of understanding will facilitate our communication in the future.

Since there doesn't appear to be an Aruba thread, I'll post my findings here.

I'm currently on a short dive trip in Aruba. Had some free time last night and decided to at least do a quick survey of the local red light district. First, I'll add some basics about Aruba.

Flight time from Miami is about 3 hours, 2 hours from Bogota or Medellin. English is widely spoken and dollars are accepted everywhere. The exchange rate is fixed at 1. 8 Florin per dollar. Ask if the price is in florin or dollars. Most places give change in dollars, except for coins.

Almost everything is expensive, but not horribly so. I've seen 1 police officer since arriving. There doesn't seem to be a visible police presence. Everywhere feels safe.

The main tourist areas are near the airport in Oranjestad and in the hotel zone in Noord. It's recommended you rent a car, if you're planning to explore the island. The landscape isn't much. Lots of cactus and a few trees. The wind is always blowing and temperatures are mid 80's, with slightly high humidity. Tap water is safe to drink.

The red light district is on the east end of the island in San Nicholas. Without traffic, 35-40 minutes driving will get you there. A good landmark to find Is Charlie's Bar. It's not part of the scene, but it's easy to find.

The area is 4 blocks wide and 6 blocks long. At the eastern end is a normal bar called Fan, on Lagoweg street. Nuyenstraat is at the west end. Some of the streets are one way.

My survey consisted a walk through and drive through between 6 7 pm and another drive through around 9 pm, complete with 2 club visits. Probably 30 working girls on the streets, many street walkers, others working at clubs. If you're driving through, or walking through, the women will approach you. Several appeared to be working in front of short time rooms. Others, I assume, might do car sex. The clubs appear to have minimal rooms available.

Most, if not all the girls are Colombian and I would guess the average age at somewhere above 25. Most were average looking, with a few who I found very attractive.

The 2 bars I visited were empty. 2 girls inside the first, 3 or 4 outside the second. Beers were reasonable, about $4. They were both small places. I didn't ask prices, but 1 girl offered a strip show for $40. At a guess, I'd say $60-$100 could be negotiated.

If you're planning a mongering trip, don't go to Aruba. If you have some other reason to visit, and looking to scratch an itch, San Nicholas is where to go.

The exchange rate is down from a high of 5000 to just a hair above 4000 that is a drop of 20% in about a year, an incredible drop. I'm not a currency guy but It has to be the Liberal administrations out of control spending and fiscal policy in general. I wish I could say the rate of slide down can't continue but nothing on the horizon seems to say it won't. Do any of your currency guys see any good news coming?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2835915]The exchange rate is down from a high of 5000 to just a hair above 4000 that is a drop of 20% in about a year, an incredible drop. I'm not a currency guy but It has to be the Liberal administrations out of control spending and fiscal policy in general. I wish I could say the rate of slide down can't continue but nothing on the horizon seems to say it won't. Do any of your currency guys see any good news coming?[/QUOTE]When the current administration took over, it was 3500, and while they were in office, it went up to 5000. Do they get credit for that? Now it is 4000 which is 15% higher than the date when the current admin took over. Do they get credit for that? So you are complaining about the drop from 5000 to 4000 but happy about the move from 3500 to 5000 under the same administration? I am not sure what your point is.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2835771]Since there doesn't appear to be an Aruba thread, I'll post my findings here.[/QUOTE]Here is the Aruba thread. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?515-Aruba[/URL].

You do understand that you are describing that the COP has claimed 20% against the dollar. I do not see how that is negative if you are Colombian. If you are not referring to the political administration running Colombia then you are in the wrong thread. There are two sides to every trade. One side wins, One side loses. Right now the people of Colombia are winning. You have to look at the macro and micro aspects of the economy in Colombia that might be bidding up the price of the COP in the currency markets.

Because if you think it is just because of what the USD is doing you need to expand your perspective. Worldwide the USD versus other currencies vary and is not universal. For example currently in the Dominican Republic the USD is on fire and the DOP is dropping like a rock.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2835915]The exchange rate is down from a high of 5000 to just a hair above 4000 that is a drop of 20% in about a year, an incredible drop. I'm not a currency guy but It has to be the Liberal administrations out of control spending and fiscal policy in general. I wish I could say the rate of slide down can't continue but nothing on the horizon seems to say it won't. Do any of your currency guys see any good news coming?[/QUOTE]

This post is for JJBee62. The Aruba post section is under "Caribbean", "Lesser Antilles" Section.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2835921]When the current administration took over, it was 3500, and while they were in office, it went up to 5000. Do they get credit for that? [/QUOTE]Seems like he is talking about the current administration in Colombia and you are talking about the current administration somewhere else.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2835923]You do understand that you are describing that the COP has claimed 20% against the dollar. I do not see how that is negative if you are Colombian. If you are not referring to the political administration running Colombia then you are in the wrong thread. There are two sides to every trade. One side wins, One side loses. Right now the people of Colombia are winning. You have to look at the macro and micro aspects of the economy in Colombia that might be bidding up the price of the COP in the currency markets.

Because if you think it is just because of what the USD is doing you need to expand your perspective. Worldwide the USD versus other currencies vary and is not universal. For example currently in the Dominican Republic the USD is on fire and the DOP is dropping like a rock.[/QUOTE]I quoted the xchange of COP vs USD ONLY! And the USA Government ONLY! Not Petro or the benefit of the high peso for Colombians. It was meant for a comparison or USD and COP only, and Americans exchange dollars for pesos.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2835923] Right now the people of Colombia are winning.[/QUOTE]The Colombian people are NOT winning, they are getting CRUSHED by inflation. Before you tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about, I've been coming here for 20 years, live here part time and have family here and can tell you FOR A FACT that the average Colombian is hurting due to crazy rises in prices, talk to some of them and ask, and no, some two bit working girl doesn't count.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2836035]I quoted the xchange of COP vs USD ONLY! And the USA Government ONLY! Not Petro or the benefit of the high peso for Colombians. It was meant for a comparison or USD and COP only, and Americans exchange dollars for pesos.[/QUOTE]Okay. When Biden took office the exchange rate was around 3500 COP per dollar. It briefly got around 5 k before settling around 4400, with lots of fluctuations. Now it's back to about 4 k.

For comparison, when Trump took office the rate was just under 3 k and was at 3500 when he left. Briefly, early 2020, the rate hit 4 k while everything was shutdown. Unless you were in Colombia during the pandemic shutdown (or sending money to Colombia), you're complaining about getting a better rate than you ever got while Trump was President, have been getting between 500 and 1500 more and blaming it all on Biden.

Don't worry. There were also people screaming that when Petro took office the rate would sail past 5 k and Colombian currency would be like Venezuelan currency.

Personally, I don't worry about it. My first time in Colombia it was 1900 to 1. During most of my time here it was 3 k. 5 k would be great, but if 4 k is what I get, 4 k is what I'm happy with.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2836047]Okay. When Biden took office the exchange rate was around 3500 COP per dollar. It briefly got around 5 k before settling around 4400, with lots of fluctuations. Now it's back to about 4 k.

For comparison, when Trump took office the rate was just under 3 k and was at 3500 when he left. Briefly, early 2020, the rate hit 4 k while everything was shutdown. Unless you were in Colombia during the pandemic shutdown (or sending money to Colombia), you're complaining about getting a better rate than you ever got while Trump was President, have been getting between 500 and 1500 more and blaming it all on Biden.

Don't worry. There were also people screaming that when Petro took office the rate would sail past 5 k and Colombian currency would be like Venezuelan currency.

Personally, I don't worry about it. My first time in Colombia it was 1900 to 1. During most of my time here it was 3 k. 5 k would be great, but if 4 k is what I get, 4 k is what I'm happy with.[/QUOTE]It was 1700 but prices in Colombia / Bogota were a lot cheaper then, for hotels girls restaurant so everything is relative but I have never seen the dollar slide 20% before, ever, usually only gets stronger but this is new.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2836042]The Colombian people are NOT winning, they are getting CRUSHED by inflation. Before you tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about, I've been coming here for 20 years, live here part time and have family here and can tell you FOR A FACT that the average Colombian is hurting due to crazy rises in prices, talk to some of them and ask, and no, some two bit working girl doesn't count.[/QUOTE]The price of food is difficult, especially for the working class. Not to mention the government has begun taxing food! That is very cruel. My girls family has to live in Soacha to afford the rent. Most Colombians about 60%+ of the population are on minimum wage and eat rice, beans, & pumpkin, beef fish even chicken is a rare monthly treat.

[B]Individuals who are trying compare international exchange rates of a country on the international market to internal inflation inside of a country are comparing apples to oranges.[/B]

Instead of just doing the equivalent of the reach around and fling, some of ya'll up in here should actually spend some time reading the financial news and educating yourselves on international financial affairs as I have done.

For example: [URL]https://www.bloomberglinea.com/english/weakening-us-dollar-puts-colombian-peso-into-worlds-top-3-for-appreciation/[/URL]#text=For%20 Juan%20 David%20 Ball%C3%A9 and%2 see%20 director, the%20 market%2 see%20 among%20 other%20 reasons.

Written in April 2023 this article does an excellent job of describing the reasons for the volatility in what has historically been a very strong currency against the USD.

There is a certain individual that wants to take my words and twist them. He has a bone to pick with me because my opinion differs from his on the attractiveness of girls in Colombia to girls in the Dominican Republic. He has now taken this rather small, insignificant difference of opinion and carried it over to the General Information thread in the Colombia section. After all who care what I think about the attractiveness of girls in Colombia as compared to the Dominican Republic. Man Law 101: No man should be telling another man who he should fuck nor how to spend his hard earned money. Reasonable people can disagree. But reasonable people should not be making accusations and trolling me from thread to thread country to country.

I am not going to spend my time teaching international finance to wage slaves. But if you are international businessman such as myself, part of your success depends on knowing the actual factors that play into international exchange rates.

[B]Inflation in Colombia is NOT being caused by exchange rates[/B] And especially not food inflation. Colombia only imports 10% of its food. By any measure on a macro economic basis when country with a strong domestic economy (Like Colombia) and has a strong currency, that is a positive because the USD is the worlds reserve currency and the currency of exchange. When you can buy more dollars with your currency that is a plus for the economy on a macro economic level.

Inflation is a macro economic factor inside of a local economy. The experts say that: [I]When the US Dollar weakens, products bought abroad or brought from abroad usually drop in price. Some examples are computers, cell phones, business machines, food or raw materials to produce food, among others[/I].

What is the cause of inflation in Colombia. Here I have to advise everyone does not know why to review your Economics 101 course. Inflation is caused by too much money chasing too few goods. In Colombia as it is all over the world. Anyone concerned about inflation should hold a currency immune from it. Get out of the Fiat currency system and place your store of value into the strongest currency that you are able to hold and self custody.

To simplify, exchange rates are largely dependent on two factors: the relative "real" (inflation adjusted) interest rates (higher = stronger currency), and the balance of trade. A negative balance of trade represents a future obligation to buy other currencies, and so leads to a weaker currency. And, inflation is caused by too much money (demand) chasing too few goods (supply). In Latin countries, unlike in the Yew Ess, the printing press is in the hands of the legislative branch. They then implement programs they don't have the money to pay for, so they print more money and you have constant, annoying inflation.

With all due respect:

If it was really that simple then then take the issue of a negative balance of trade: [I]The U.S. balance of trade in goods and, more broadly, the current account, have been in deficit for decades. Year after year, Americans buy more goods in global markets than they sell[/I]. Using what has been written below that would make the USD one of the of the weakest currencies in the world. We all know WHY it is not. This is not to the place to get into it. This is forum for Colombia and I posted an article about why the Colombian Peso is strong against the dollar.

Inflation is another case. You got the definition right there (thanks for quoting me and not giving me credit). And inflation has been fairly aggressive in in Colombia. But it is not being caused by the the strength of the COP against the USD.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2836806]To simplify, exchange rates are largely dependent on two factors: the relative "real" (inflation adjusted) interest rates (higher = stronger currency), and the balance of trade. A negative balance of trade represents a future obligation to buy other currencies, and so leads to a weaker currency. And, inflation is caused by too much money (demand) chasing too few goods (supply). In Latin countries, unlike in the Yew Ess, the printing press is in the hands of the legislative branch. They then implement programs they don't have the money to pay for, so they print more money and you have constant, annoying inflation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2836806]To simplify, exchange rates are largely dependent on two factors: the relative "real" (inflation adjusted) interest rates (higher = stronger currency), and the balance of trade. A negative balance of trade represents a future obligation to buy other currencies, and so leads to a weaker currency. And, inflation is caused by too much money (demand) chasing too few goods (supply). In Latin countries, unlike in the Yew Ess, the printing press is in the hands of the legislative branch. They then implement programs they don't have the money to pay for, so they print more money and you have constant, annoying inflation.[/QUOTE]The US dollar is a bit of a special case, in that it is effectively the worlds reserve currency. There is a huge demand for US bonds and currency which is held by the central banks of most countries around the world And also there is the function of the US dollar as a "safe haven" currency. In total there are a lot of moving parts influencing currencies and the US dollar in particular. The Mexican peso and the Colombian peso, and a couple of other Latin American currencies have done especially well recently against US dollar. Including the Costa Rica colon, which really seems odd. But for whatever reasons.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2837262]The US dollar is a bit of a special case, in that it is effectively the worlds reserve currency. There is a huge demand for US bonds and currency which is held by the central banks of most countries around the world [/QUOTE]Yes, but that is already reflected in the "real" rate of interest, which is based on risks such as default and liquidity.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2837219]
Inflation is another case. You got the definition right there (thanks for quoting me and not giving me credit)[/QUOTE]Actually, I wasn't quoting you and did not notice you had made that exact reference. It's not original to you either and you didn't cite. But as you pointed out, it's in every Econ 101 textbook. For a more specific quote, you have Milton Friedman: 'Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon. ".

Bogota has revamped the entrance to the exiting immigration. Today I went to use Biomig. Foreigners use the bigger machines. The slim ones are for Colombians. You put your passport in. After it scans, you type in your flight number. Then it takes your picture. Unfortunately the machine was not recognizing my face so the chick helping with the machines took me over to the shortest line. It worked fine for another American guy. I even tried the kiosk he went to after, but nope.

Did you still have to do check mig I did 1 and 2 months ago Bucaramanga though.

[QUOTE=Abombu235;2840927]Did you still have to do check mig I did 1 and 2 months ago Bucaramanga though.[/QUOTE]I did not do it entering or leaving the country.

I can only say that I have met a young paisa, Valeria!

She is a typical Pocahontas; very cute, small, 150 cm, and slim, long black hair, nice eyes; hot temper!

(150 centimetres = 4. 92 feet.).

She is 23 years old, I am 43, she is real, authentic!

I can tell the difference between an ordinary interesada and Valeria. She is truly passionate about her four-year-old son, she is passionate about getting out of poverty, not just about getting high and becoming a well-paid prepago and webcam model.

Which I don't see anything wrong in itself, but most of the profit is often wasted on luxury, not investment in education or language learning!

So she wants both a new world and a man; there are no opportunities in Colombia while "you have everything". She wants to go to Scandinavia! She is very affectionate. She's not looking for luxury in the first place, but wants to be a "professional woman", preferably in some slightly outwardly boring profession for a young beauty, as she likes maths, organising and all that.

But also incredibly in love, this can only happen in magical Medellin / Colombia; not in the cold North or in Buenos Aires or Peru!

In Skandivavia, maybe also USA, Buenos Aires; it can't happen!

I mean; so beautiful, so young, very intelligent. But without resources.

She is like a little black female cat, gatita. Hot and willing, but also intelligent.

She wants to study and be "demasiado seria".

So this doesn't cost any money, because being a monger is hardly a cheap lifestyle.

I don't really want to, but she's already taken over. She's so passionate and strong-willed that there's no stopping her; she gives everything sexually and is usually happy and lively, interspersed with typical Latin energy outbursts, which I'm lucky to have escaped with my life.

Perhaps this is a way of paying back to Medellin / Colombia. I give her access to a rich welfare state with free university education and healthcare!

She will leave me for a younger guy later, but first we will have fun for a few years!

The latest installment in the never-ending saga of the CheckMig form, it appears they've fixed it. Going through the Migracion website link, it worked perfectly, downloaded and emailed the completed form to me.

My timing was good today. Flight got in early, short line and no problems. Rental car company gave me a double free upgrade and less than 1 hour after landing I was in Medellin.

[QUOTE=ILoveColombia;2843936]I can only say that I have met a young paisa, Valeria![/QUOTE]And we all know how this one will turn out.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2838750]Yes, but that is already reflected in the "real" rate of interest, which is based on risks such as default and liquidity.[/QUOTE]Now for no reason that I understand, the Dollar began to rise again. Now between 4000 and 4100 Having exchanged many many dollars on many years and trips to Colombia I will never understand the whole currency thing.

On a side note lots of chatter in the states about masking up be / see of the new variant. I had it about a month ago, much worse for me than the first covid which was 3 days and good as new, This one kicked my ass for a solid week, headaches and fatigue like I never felt before, 7 days in bed and then another week or so to get close to normal. In my case it started with a runny nose, and got worse from there. If you get a runny nose be alert! I hope we don't get back into the whole quarantined thing and mask rules.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2844393]Now for no reason that I understand, the Dollar began to rise again. Now between 4000 and 4100 Having exchanged many many dollars on many years and trips to Colombia I will never understand the whole currency thing.

On a side note lots of chatter in the states about masking up be / see of the new variant. I had it about a month ago, much worse for me than the first covid which was 3 days and good as new, This one kicked my ass for a solid week, headaches and fatigue like I never felt before, 7 days in bed and then another week or so to get close to normal. In my case it started with a runny nose, and got worse from there. If you get a runny nose be alert! I hope we don't get back into the whole quarantined thing and mask rules.[/QUOTE]Maybe this can explain: Petro wants to renegotiate a trade agreement with the US.

[URL]https://www.elpais.com.co/economia/presidente-petro-revelo-que-inicio-la-renegociacion-del-tlc-con-estados-unidos-1644.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2843940]The latest installment in the never-ending saga of the CheckMig form, it appears they've fixed it. Going through the Migracion website link, it worked perfectly, downloaded and emailed the completed form to me.

My timing was good today. Flight got in early, short line and no problems. Rental car company gave me a double free upgrade and less than 1 hour after landing I was in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Its better than before with the new update, I finished mine in less than 2 minutes and received 2 emails in seconds (appeared to be duplicates). Some are still going to [URL]ivisa.com[/URL] and paying but to each their own.

What I liked most about the updated site is that my country of birth is now in English so it's easier to find, but my nationality its still in Estados Unidos.

The check mig is just going to confuse readers if they should do it or not.

It's that there are multiple variables and when users post some info is omitted.

1. Origin departing Airport code.

2. Airline.

3. Airport of first entry into Colombia.

Last week I flew in on Jet Blue out of JFK to CTG, they did not allow me to bag drop or board unless they saw the form was filled out.

My boy flew in Sunday the 20th, same shit with him, but them made him print out a paper pass and see the gate agent to pre check his form was filled out before they started pre boarding.

Another one of my boys flew in yesterday, Monday, same shit. He had to show it was filled out and got a smiley face on his paper pass.

This have been happening since 2021 on every trip out of JFK on Jet Blue. But for 2 minutes of time I don't want to be that person getting stopped at the last minutes because I didn't fill it out. With my luck, I would be that person to get stopped LOL.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2844393]Now for no reason that I understand, the Dollar began to rise again. Now between 4000 and 4100 Having exchanged many many dollars on many years and trips to Colombia I will never understand the whole currency thing.

On a side note lots of chatter in the states about masking up be / see of the new variant. I had it about a month ago, much worse for me than the first covid which was 3 days and good as new, This one kicked my ass for a solid week, headaches and fatigue like I never felt before, 7 days in bed and then another week or so to get close to normal. In my case it started with a runny nose, and got worse from there. If you get a runny nose be alert! I hope we don't get back into the whole quarantined thing and mask rules.[/QUOTE]Went to exchange yesterday, no cabrios in Cartegena wanted to budge over 3700.

[QUOTE=ILoveColombia;2843936]I can only say that I have met a young paisa, Valeria!

She is a typical Pocahontas; very cute, small, 150 cm, and slim, long black hair, nice eyes; hot temper!

(150 centimetres = 4. 92 feet.).

She is 23 years old, I am 43, she is real, authentic!

I can tell the difference between an ordinary interesada and Valeria. She is truly passionate about her four-year-old son, she is passionate about getting out of poverty, not just about getting high and becoming a well-paid prepago and webcam model.

Which I don't see anything wrong in itself, but most of the profit is often wasted on luxury, not investment in education or language learning!

So she wants both a new world and a man; there are no opportunities in Colombia while "you have everything". She wants to go to Scandinavia! She is very affectionate. She's not looking for luxury in the first place, but wants to be a "professional woman", preferably in some slightly outwardly boring profession for a young beauty, as she likes maths, organising and all that.

But also incredibly in love, this can only happen in magical Medellin / Colombia; not in the cold North or in Buenos Aires or Peru!

In Skandivavia, maybe also USA, Buenos Aires; it can't happen!

I mean; so beautiful, so young, very intelligent. But without resources.[/QUOTE]The Tall Man has been everywhere in Colombia over the past 30 years of travel here, yep 30 years, now living in Medellin for over 10 years and still traveling to every city and town and pueblo in Colombia. Have had probably 1,000 Colombian women, most great experiences along with a handful of horrific ones but only a handful so good odds, have had Colombian GF's lasting from 2 weeks to 2 years with Colombians from every different region, and my biggest trouble is not wanting to fall in love with some of these beauties, not bragging but still (if I wanted) get 3 to 5 whatsapps from chicas just about every time I venture into Medellin on the metro or in a restaurant or a shop, that's the beauty of life here full time. You have no idea.

Back on point never forget the cardinal rule with most Colombian women, "she is not YOUR girl rather it's just YOUR turn".

Carry on grasshopper.

The Tall Man.

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[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2846329]The Tall Man has been everywhere in Colombia over the past 30 years of travel here, yep 30 years, now living in Medellin for over 10 years and still traveling to every city and town and pueblo in Colombia. Have had probably 1,000 Colombian women, most great experiences along with a handful of horrific ones but only a handful so good odds, have had Colombian GF's lasting from 2 weeks to 2 years with Colombians from every different region, and my biggest trouble is not wanting to fall in love with some of these beauties, not bragging but still (if I wanted) get 3 to 5 whatsapps from chicas just about every time I venture into Medellin on the metro or in a restaurant or a shop, that's the beauty of life here full time. You have no idea.

Back on point never forget the cardinal rule with most Colombian women, "she is not YOUR girl rather it's just YOUR turn".

Carry on grasshopper.

The Tall Man.

[/QUOTE]Damn, that's a lot of experience.

General tips on getting Colombian GFs? Except being Tall hah.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2846329]...still traveling to every city and town and pueblo in Colombia.

[/QUOTE]Is there a P4 P venues scene (casas, strip clubs) in pueblos and small towns or is it a city thing?

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2846727]General tips on getting Colombian GFs? Except being Tall hah.[/QUOTE]Talk with them the same you would any other woman on the planet. A grown man needs tips on how to get a girlfriend? Two people meet, they talk, they like each other.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2846739]Talk with them the same you would any other woman on the planet. A grown man needs tips on how to get a girlfriend? Two people meet, they talk, they like each other.[/QUOTE]No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2846074]Went to exchange yesterday, no cabrios in Cartegena wanted to budge over 3700.[/QUOTE]The Cambios will never give you the real exchange rate, they will always carve out 3 or 4 points depending on the cambio. Some ATM's will get you a better rate but add in the fees, anyway you look at it you always get dinged.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2846894]No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.[/QUOTE]The key to getting a girlfriend in Colombia is having something to offer long term that she will go gaga over, that and speak Spanish. It's not Saudi Arabia, so cultural difference can be smoothed over.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2846894]No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.[/QUOTE]People are people and are more the same than different. Culture has nothing to do with talking to people. You have to start with the Spanish you have and learn it one word at a time the same as you did English. My first time in Colombia I could only say hola. But time and practice works wonders. Most of my practice came and still comes from meeting chicks online and writing with them for the last 18 years.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2847001]The key to getting a girlfriend in Colombia is having something to offer long term that she will go gaga over, that and speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. Even when I did not speak Spanish, all I ever did was be myself. I have never offered any normal chick anything besides knowing me. If you are looking for a girlfriend that is a hooker then of course you would need to offer them things like money. But if you stop hanging around hookers then you would not think like a trick. Believing you have to have something to offer is trick thinking.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2847004]I beg to differ. Even when I did not speak Spanish, all I ever did was be myself. I have never offered any normal chick anything besides knowing me. If you are looking for a girlfriend that is a hooker then of course you would need to offer them things like money. But if you stop hanging around hookers then you would not think like a trick. Believing you have to have something to offer is trick thinking.[/QUOTE]Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2847793]Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.[/QUOTE]Why do you assume there has to be a quid pro quo? A lot of guys on this site act like they have never had a girlfriend that they did not have to buy. If that is the case then it is indeed a sad case. A person does not have to do anything special to have a normal girlfriend (from my lifelong experience anyway.) Hell, even when I was married my wife made more money than me and already had the house that we lived in. Sorry I just do not see it as anything special to get chicks. Elementary, high school, university, military. In none of my stages of life has women been a problem. The same goes for all my friends and associates. How is this some mystery or out of reach task for you guys?

If you think getting a girlfriend is something then I could really tell you some stories about just hooking up with random strangers. Like the time me and my boy were in New Orleans and some chicks were getting in their car on Bourbon Street and we got in their back seat saying we are going too. That turned out to be a wild night. Or my first time in Los Angeles many moons ago when me and my shipmate met some chicks outside of Del Amo mall and we went out with them that night and ended up staying at their apartment in Watts.


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It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.

I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!

Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.

And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.

Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2847793]Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2848108]It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.

I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!

Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.

And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.

Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.[/QUOTE]Don't believe anything on the internet. There is a guy on you tube, John Anthony Lifestyle, that claims to have slept with 1700 women, but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. They aren't prostitutes he says. All regular girls. He sells courses to simps on how to talk to girls. LOL. Anyone that's been with regular girls, knows how much work you need to put in, as a non celebrity, to sleep with that many girls. Impossible. Coincidentally, all his videos are of him hooking up with girls from mongering countries. Why is it that all of these studs that sleep with all these regular girls are always in countries that are known for sex tourism and they don't speak English, and the guys don't speak Spanish. Why aren't these Romeos that can talk any girls pants off doing it in LA or Miami. Paying for sex is so much easier, which is why we all do it.

Navigating a woman's head games, and her desire to separate me from my money is not worth the chase like it used to be. After 64 years of life, 50 countries and about a 700 body count I don't lead with money, I end with it by putting as little as I can in her greedy hand as she heads out the door. If it was good I will call her again. I then proceed happily to a drink, a pizza, my movie, my life.

If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2848607]If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, the one near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (there were about 8 or so). I would go again, still good deal for me. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as one other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.[/QUOTE]I've been multiple times in the last few weeks. And last year & early this year. I went today / Thursday to Spa and it was the same 50 k for 30 minutes as always. As of last week bar was 60 k for 30 minutes.

For an hour 100 k makes sense. But there's certainly no requirement for that. The jeffe at bar hassled me about not doing an hour one time, but the girl didn't care.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2848607]If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.[/QUOTE]Why does there have to be an either or? Today I am on my motorbike. Does that mean I should not want to ride my bicycle later or drive my car tomorrow?

I went to a party last night where there was advertised FREE FOOD! Should I had been skeptical that someone was just trying to lure me in to get something from me? Does that mean I should not want to pay for food today? I should just around for the rest of my life looking for places that I can get free food?

Hell, after the party with FREE food I was offered to go to a concert for FREE. Had I not gone with those chicks then it would have been $15. Then to add insult to injury the chicks wanted to ply me with FREE drinks! The nerve of them. I kept trying to leave to go pick up another chick but they kept filling my glass with Jack Daniels and ice. What do I owe them if this is quid pro quo? From now on should I go around only looking for free concerts and free drinks instead of paying for them since it was all free last night?

You do what you want when you want. There does not have to be an "if you do it this way then you should never want to do it that way".

[QUOTE=Frogg;2848607]If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.[/QUOTE]Why bother with mongering? I can think of a few reasons.

1. Especially as you get older, the free options tend to go downhill, or require too much time and effort. Although, in countries like Colombia, the options for free tend to be better and easier.

2. Minimal expectations from pros. They expect to be paid, that's about it. Free options often expect something more than just sex.

3. Less games and drama. At least usually.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2848296]Don't believe anything on the internet. There is a guy on you tube, John Anthony Lifestyle, that claims to have slept with 1700 women, but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. [/QUOTE]When did I ever claim that? I claim that I do not pay chicks that are not hookers. HOOKERS I PAY! Hard for me to believe on the internet that it seems to be a great feat to sleep with normal women. Should I really believe that to be not true or is that incel shit real afterall? Maybe I am too busy talking to normal chicks and getting to know them instead of watching how other guys are living on youtube.

I do not believe people have been to the moon and it is not because I have not been able to do it myself, the way some of you guys don't believe someone else has done something on the basis that you have not been able to do it. I just left the scuba shop getting some gear repaired. The guy asked if I wanted to try my hand at fixing my BCD. I told him that I know a lot of shit about a lot of things; I know nothing about fixing scuba gear. Or should I have told him I do not believe it is possible to fix scuba gear because I have never done it?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2848296]... but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. ....[/QUOTE]There is a Brazilian song called Esperando na janela. To me he is just telling me not to be that man in the song. He never said his successful rate is 100%. Many men will give up after 10 tries and maybe he does not give up so that is another way to look at it. He does p4 p too. Mr E speaks Spanish and Portuguese.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2848612]I've been multiple times in the last few weeks. And last year & early this year. I went today / Thursday to Spa and it was the same 50 k for 30 minutes as always. As of last week bar was 60 k for 30 minutes.

For an hour 100 k makes sense. But there's certainly no requirement for that. The jeffe at bar hassled me about not doing an hour one time, but the girl didn't care.[/QUOTE]Are there two Tantra's in medellin? I only know of one on ave 80.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2848646]Why bother with mongering? I can think of a few reasons.

1. Especially as you get older, the free options tend to go downhill, or require too much time and effort. Although, in countries like Colombia, the options for free tend to be better and easier.

2. Minimal expectations from pros. They expect to be paid, that's about it. Free options often expect something more than just sex.

3. Less games and drama. At least usually.[/QUOTE]Why did Beiber pay for sex. Why did tiger woods pay for sex. It's just easier even for them.

Brazil or Thailand?

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?

We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.

Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.

Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.

Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.

It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.

Things change. That's just how it is.

Those days are just a legend now. You guys coming to Colombia today are just chasing a legend.

Today if coming for the first time I would decide not to live here (I have lived here for the last twenty years.).

Yeah it has been a good ride but it is over and time to move on.

Today there are more hombres (that means men for you all here who don't speak Spanish), gringos and locals, per square meter per second than is cool. Totally uncool here now. You walk down the crowded streets here now you are rubbing shoulders with men and only men.

You can do that in the states I hear.

You go out on the streets now in Colombia and you are surrounded by men. Yeah there are some old hag women here and there but you know, maybe you don't know, that's it.

That is not how it used to be. This place is a shadow of what it once was and won't ever be again especially with the new visa rules for Colombianas who can now travel freely to europe and usa and anywhere really. And they are leaving getting out of this third world country moving into harems in the arab world, into the Fkks of Europe, anywhere but Colombia now.

The girls have always wanted out and now they can go and they are going. And they have gone.

For this reason there is high demand and scarce supply of good looking chicas now in Colombia.

And the danger now of scopolamine is omnipresent. Some chica out of my past contacted me out of the blue I had to say no thanks. First she was old and used up and secondly why the F now does she want to come over to my house. No thanks.

For safety reasons, I will only go to casas now. For those of you who don't know, casas are the massage parlors like New Life and all the rest where now you no longer have fresh 18 year olds but only washed older women.

They still fuck but they are not the same as they used to be.

Same thing that happened to Costa Rica happened here starting about 10 or more years ago.

Aussie Greg said it about a decade ago when he wrote something to the effect that Colombia had become just another Costa Rica or to that effect.

So my question to those who might have recent knowledge: which is better taking into consideration distances, fun, governance, danger, freedoms, chicas, infrastructure, visa regulations, local health care, local health insurance, quality of life, etc, which is better for a us citizen, Thailand or Brazil and where specifically in each?

In all these categories above Colombia has gone to hell to the point I would not recommend anyone move here.

I have narrowed down my next move to either Brazil or Thailand and I will be renting an apartment long term where I decide to settle next. Any specific ideas? Place must be fairly new and have hot water, a real nice pool and good modern air conditioning. No third world shit.

Brazil or Thailand? I am leaning towards Brazil.

Which is cooler in temperature, Rio or S. P. ? Or your suggestion?

Tell me, tell us, your experiences.

And to make a positive contribution to this forum for anyone who just has to move to Medellin and buy an apartment my advice is to buy in el centro on the uphill side of Avenida Oriental where there are some nice places or over by Villanueva.

Choose your favorite. It is still better than sex prison.

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2848740]Are there two Tantra's in medellin? I only know of one on ave 80.[/QUOTE]I was responding assuming he was talking about Tantra Spa in Bogota since that is on Calle 72. Tantra bar is right next door to it.

It's amazing how some Westerners will go to developing countries, try to mooch off the locals, getting free rides and stuff, and brag about it as if some great accomplishment. Parasitism comes in many forms. In contrast, the Venezuelans arrive at host coutries with nothing but clothes on their back, work hard selling empanadas in the street, plus whoring, etc.

I talked to a Venezuelan working gal the other day, she claims she want to go the United States. She has friends who are currently crossing the Darien jungle gap, hoping to make it to Mexico then seek asylum in the US if they can make it to Ciudad Juarez. It seems this is the new trend among Venezuelans, to aim for the big time, the fabled US-of-A. News reports indicate that in the last year there has been a massive surge in Venezuelans (as well as Cubans) entering Mexico (as well as the US to lesser extent). Those who are able get to the US tend to go to Florida. Many Venezuelans not able to stay in the US are are settling in Mexico City. Perhaps we will not have to go all the way to Colombia to romance these Venezuelan cuties, Mexico City is shorter hop from the States.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2848826]It's amazing how some Westerners will go to developing countries, try to mooch off the locals, getting free rides and stuff, and brag about it as if some great accomplishment. Parasitism comes in many forms.[/QUOTE]It is really sad for someone to go around in life not being able to experience genuine generosity, kindness, and affection from others. The world is not all about money and not everyone needs or wants your money.

Time for more bragging. When I was in Egypt during Ramadan at the time to break fast random people invited me and my friends inside of their homes to eat with them. We do not speak Arabic and they did not speak English. We were just walking down a random street and a bell started ringing around 6 pm and people came out dragging us inside. The other day I took my pants for a minor repair here in Thailand and the lady said it would be FREE!

Yes I have been talking about random acts of kindness that people have done for me. I have never felt a need to talk about random acts of kindness that I do for other people. So maybe that is seen as mooching. Nevermind the border patrol agents I saw at the McDonald's at the Tijuana border. While other mfs are always angry and showing disdain towards them, gentlemen thanks for everything you do. Your food is on me.

Recently saw a guy with a weird haircut in line to pay at a barbecue restaurant. Hey man what branch? Army. Thanks for serving. Your money is no good here. Put his on my card. Seen five young airport workers buying ice cream at the Dairy Queen in the Hat Yai airport 2 days ago. Hey thanks for your hard work. That is on me!

What about the guy in Manila I saw living up against a building. He had carved out a little nook for himself. He had flowers in pots and everything. What caught my attention was that he was sweeping around his place trying to keep it clean. Here dude here is $20 to buy something for yourself. Good goes around. It is not a one-way street. Why do some Westerners feel they need to buy everybody or that life must be quid pro quo? Everybody is not a hooker that you must give money to in exchange for sex and that does not give 2 shits about you other than your money. Get out and live and get to know people and you will soon realize this.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2848814]Brazil or Thailand?

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?

We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.

Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.

Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.

Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.

It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.

Things change. That's just how it is.

Those days are just a legend now. You guys coming to Colombia today are just chasing a legend.

Today if coming for the first time I would decide not to live here (I have lived here for the last twenty years.).

Yeah it has been a good ride but it is over and time to move on.[/QUOTE]People aren't afraid to come to Colombia anymore. That's why it was so great 20 years ago. My first time in Medellin was great. Second time was okay and third time, two years ago, sucked. If Colombians are allowed to come to America without major issues, then it's definitely over. These girls will see their worth after one day walking around Vegas Miami or LOS Angeles.

Brazil will always be a top destination. You can always count on their government being incompetent and screwing up everything. Copa will always be full of energy in the daytime, nice waves to boogie board or surf, cheap fruit drinks. Medellin is so boring in comparison. I will probably start going out there one month at a time in late 2024.

Stud,

Brazilians are harsh, no fun, life is plain, food average, too much crimes in most cities.

Thais are genuinely kind, easy-going, more fun, food is diverse, creative and delish, cities are much safer. From BKK you can fly very cheap to many destinations in Asia with interesting and unique cultures.

Thailand wins.

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2848982]Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?[/QUOTE]Damn I am finally agreeing with Solo on something. I moved from Brazil to Thailand 14 years ago because things went downhill when they announced the Olympics and World Cup. I still visit Brazil often but I would not want to live there. Thailand is way cheaper too. My rent has been the same $125/ month for the last 14 years.

From Sao Paulo to Rio they play games with the price on that 50 minute flight making you pay $300 and $400 on some bullshit. In Thailand at anytime you can go online to Nok Air and get a $50 flight anywhere in the country. Spur of the moment me and this chick decided we wanted to take a trip the next day. Ticket was way cheap. Also cheap 3 hour flight from here to the Philippines if that place floats your boat.

I really like how it is service oriented here as well. Problem with my computer I can take it right up to the shop and they will be like we will call you back in 1 hour. Then it will cost like $10. Something wrong with my motorbike I can drive it up to the shop and they can fix damn near anything on it quick and fast and it will be like $6. Once I stood there 45 minutes while they damn near took the whole thing apart and put it back together.

Today I went and got a 3 hour real massage for $15. I also fucked the girl and with her tip for the massage portion was an extra $24. I will usually tip $1. 50 to $3 for each hour of massage. I sent that shit to her in a bank transfer too. That is another thing I like about here. Anywhere you go you can just scan with the bank app to pay. Then Lazada is like the Amazon of Thailand. Things I order arrive in like 2 days (unless it is coming from China) and in most cases it is 1/3 or less of the price of Amazon and it will be the exact same product.

Also here in Pattaya is full of expats so if you need advice or help or just want to hang out then there are thousands of people from all over the world.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2848814]Brazil or Thailand?

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?

We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.

Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.

Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.

Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.b

It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.

Choose your favorite. It is still better than sex prison.[/QUOTE]I think Brasil is the best country in the World for our hobby. That said, for living somewhere (especially if you're say over 50), I'd probably go with Thailand. Brasil, like most of Latin America, is just too dangerous. While I've never been a victim, I've had some close calls. In both Brasil and Colombia. And the older one gets, the harder it is to dodge dangerous situations.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2848982]Stud,

Brazilians are harsh, no fun, life is plain, food average, too much crimes in most cities.

Thais are genuinely kind, easy-going, more fun, food is diverse, creative and delish, cities are much safer. From BKK you can fly very cheap to many destinations in Asia with interesting and unique cultures.

Thailand wins.

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?[/QUOTE]I live in Thailand, but spend January in Brazil every year.

I am thinking of switching my holiday to Medellin next January, but the reports are very sketchy.

At StudPlayer: Have you considered moving out of Meddy into another location in Colombia? If you like latinas, how are you attracted to thai girls? Brazil is a higher cost and much higher reward country in my view compared to Thailand. Thailand has falling births, oppressive climate, serious political risks, dubious legal system, limitations to real estate ownership, banking, etc. It will be much easier to learn Portuguese and adapt to local culture than learn Thai. The sex scene in Brazil is top notch in all areas imagined.

[QUOTE=Combo;2849124]I think Brasil is the best country in the World for our hobby. That said, for living somewhere (especially if you're say over 50), I'd probably go with Thailand. Brasil, like most of Latin America, is just too dangerous. While I've never been a victim, I've had some close calls. In both Brasil and Colombia. And the older one gets, the harder it is to dodge dangerous situations.[/QUOTE]Take cabs door to door from clubs and termas. Try not to walk much at night in Brazil. Uber is cheaper, but it takes longer while you're sitting outside with your phone. Do that and you should be safe.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2848867]...Yes I have been talking about random acts of kindness that people have done for me. I .....[/QUOTE]I took the wrong bus in Salvador around 9 PM from the central station in Lapa, I did not know it was one of the most dangerous cities. I hopped on the bus in a hurry while it was leaving without checking carefully where it was actually going. I knew something was wrong when it started to go up and down the hills. LOL. The general direction was correct but the final stop was on a hill near a favela type neighborhood. I told the conductor where I wanted to go and asked if they could drop me off anywhere safe on their way back so I could get a taxi or Uber. They took me to a major street, then the conductor told me to get off and he ran to the middle of road to stop another bus that was going to my destination. I was amazed what they did for me. Another time I had to go from low city to high city and the elevator required a toll of are $0. 1. I had are $20 and I was dreaded to take the elevator because I did not bring change. They just waved me thru without paying. When I just arrived, occasionally I got a thumb up gesture from random people who cross my path. The first time I was thinking what he wants from me. LOL. Then I got used to the friendliness.

I went to a famous speakeasy bar around Recoleta, Buenos Aires. I was asked to sit on outside table and wasn't allowed enter the bar for whatever reason. I am not a drinker and I just wanted to checkout inside so I left stopped a short distance away to text a friend There was a homeless guy begging outside but no one gave him anything. I pull out a huge stack of bills and pull a few to give to him. Next thing I knew, some guy from the bar chased me down and invited me into the bar. He talked to the bouncer for a while then I was in. I am still wondering if it is related to that I gave money to the homeless because it's not the first time I tried to get into this bar.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2848982]Stud,

Brazilians are harsh, no fun, life is plain, food average, too much crimes in most cities.

Thais are genuinely kind, easy-going, more fun, food is diverse, creative and delish, cities are much safer. From BKK you can fly very cheap to many destinations in Asia with interesting and unique cultures.

Thailand wins.

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?[/QUOTE]Brazil taxes your worldwide income at 33% if you become a resident (over 183 days per year in the country).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2849103]Damn I am finally agreeing with Solo on something. I moved from Brazil to Thailand 14 years ago because things went downhill when they announced the Olympics and World Cup. I still visit Brazil often but I would not want to live there. Thailand is way cheaper too. My rent has been the same $125/ month for the last 14 years.

From Sao Paulo to Rio they play games with the price on that 50 minute flight making you pay $300 and $400 on some bullshit. In Thailand at anytime you can go online to Nok Air and get a $50 flight anywhere in the country. Spur of the moment me and this chick decided we wanted to take a trip the next day. Ticket was way cheap. Also cheap 3 hour flight from here to the Philippines if that place floats your boat.

I really like how it is service oriented here as well. Problem with my computer I can take it right up to the shop and they will be like we will call you back in 1 hour. Then it will cost like $10. Something wrong with my motorbike I can drive it up to the shop and they can fix damn near anything on it quick and fast and it will be like $6. Once I stood there 45 minutes while they damn near took the whole thing apart and put it back together.

Today I went and got a 3 hour real massage for $15. I also fucked the girl and with her tip for the massage portion was an extra $24. I will usually tip $1. 50 to $3 for each hour of massage. I sent that shit to her in a bank transfer too. That is another thing I like about here. Anywhere you go you can just scan with the bank app to pay. Then Lazada is like the Amazon of Thailand. Things I order arrive in like 2 days (unless it is coming from China) and in most cases it is 1/3 or less of the price of Amazon and it will be the exact same product.

Also here in Pattaya is full of expats so if you need advice or help or just want to hang out then there are thousands of people from all over the world.[/QUOTE]Crime is a real issue in Brazil (as it is in his beloved Tijuana I note). I would say that if one likes Thai girls as much or more than Brasilieras (I don't) and / or if the cost of living would be an issue for you (Thailand is so much cheaper), then yes choose Thailand. But if those little flat chested, flat ass Thai girls just aren't going to do it for you (yeah, yeah I know what you say Mr. E but my experience tells me different) and if you're not mackin' on a tight budget, then go with Brazil! You can deal with the crime just by using some basic common sense and by being "street smart". I mean it's not that bad to where it's simply not manageable. It also helps me that I can easily pass for being Brazilian, which helps to fly under the radar a lot.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2810502]They are insanely flakey.

I've had many flake on me but some how I always end up matching with their friend in one of their group photos they had on their profile and when their friend video call them and sees me in the background they get super salty and all of a sudden want to meet me, and I just decline and keep the friend jajaja.

Good you had a great encounter. Very risky meeting 2 girls by yourself. I wouldn't do that with new girls at all especially when solo.

Be careful out there and enjoy your time.[/QUOTE]I forgot to check this after returning back home. Ill say I had a good time in Colombia for my first time solo traveling. I was in Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena, and Cucuta. As I said I had a prepago in Medellin and met up with one of the cam girls I wanted to meet. The rest of the cities I ended up with another cam girl that I flew out to Bogota and accompanied me through out my whole trip and went back to her place in Cucuta. Lmao I'm a crazy SOB for trusting that girl that much but luckily she meant well and we had fun she even took me to some clubs in Cucuta and met her friends and met some girls on the streets as well. I had so much punani it was insane. Luckily since the girl I met that lives in Cucuta is pretty much an actual friend now, I have someone I can crash with if anything and who doesn't mind following me around while I meet other girls. I only had one bad encounter and it was with cops in Cucuta mfs were being rude luckily they let me go. I'm kinda glad I invested in some cam girls. I've still yet to go to Cali to meet a few other cam girls hopefully for the holidays ill be in Colombia again.

[QUOTE=XXL;2850940]Brazil taxes your worldwide income at 33% if you become a resident (over 183 days per year in the country).[/QUOTE]Colombia does that too.

After three marriages, many girlfriends and 15 plus trips to Colombia, IMHO, this is a very precise and balanced view.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2848108]It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.

I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!

Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.

And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.

Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.[/QUOTE]

Arrived in Bogota and as usual did not fill out the check mig. Nobody said anything about it. Went down to pick up my bag and go to the Colpatria ATM as usual. Saw the sign on the exchange place. 3,900 pesos for $1. Looked at my Schwab for the 920,000 I just took out and it was minus $219.94. So exchange of 4182.95 for using the ATM.

On the other side of that exchange booth was a Claro SIM card booth. First the guy was not there but left some phones and SIMs. I came back after getting my bag and checked the prices. 60 K for a SIM for 1 week. With 12 gb, unlimited social media, and unlimited calls in Colombia. I told him damn that is expensive. I bought mine for 10 K. He started laughing like you know the deal.

This trip I did not receive a "WELCOME TO Colombia" message from Google FI. Within 2 weeks I could not use my Mobile Data. There was a "No SIM Card" message. "Emergency calls only" message. Super rare for a SIM to go bad. Had a new SIM shipped to friend in USA and then to Colombia. This SIM lasted about 3 weeks. My guess is that Colombian cell phone towers and Google FI no longer have an agreement and thus killing FI's connections. Looks like I will have to get a local SIM is the answer.

I know there are other Google FI users here. Any problems? How did you fix?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2857923] Saw the sign on the exchange place. 3,900 pesos for $1. Looked at my Schwab for the 920,000 I just took out and it was minus $219.94. So exchange of 4182.95 for using the ATM.[/QUOTE]Where? In the Airport? Of course the worst rates and prices occur there. But thanks for the confirmation of what everyone already knows. Speaking only on behalf of myself, I appreciate it. LOL!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2861100]This trip I did not receive a "WELCOME TO Colombia" message from Google FI. Within 2 weeks I could not use my Mobile Data. There was a "No SIM Card" message. "Emergency calls only" message. Super rare for a SIM to go bad. Had a new SIM shipped to friend in USA and then to Colombia. This SIM lasted about 3 weeks. My guess is that Colombian cell phone towers and Google FI no longer have an agreement and thus killing FI's connections. Looks like I will have to get a local SIM is the answer.

I know there are other Google FI users here. Any problems? How did you fix?[/QUOTE]Basically what happened is that Google sees that you're in Colombia and they're not competing against the Colombian Cell Phone carriers.

If you need to call back to the states use Skype.

It's cheaper to boot.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2861100]This trip I did not receive a "WELCOME TO Colombia" message from Google FI. Within 2 weeks I could not use my Mobile Data. There was a "No SIM Card" message. "Emergency calls only" message. Super rare for a SIM to go bad. Had a new SIM shipped to friend in USA and then to Colombia. This SIM lasted about 3 weeks. My guess is that Colombian cell phone towers and Google FI no longer have an agreement and thus killing FI's connections. Looks like I will have to get a local SIM is the answer.

I know there are other Google FI users here. Any problems? How did you fix?[/QUOTE]What you wrote doesn't make sense.

Haven't read about Google FI cancelling their roaming agreement with the providers in any of the 200+ countries. Why would the service work for 2, then 3 weeks, before going bad. Logically, the only reason I can think of with the facts you wrote is that the SIM slot of your phone is going bad.

The "No SIM Card" message would be displayed when the phone cannot find a SIM in its slot. Don't know why it would display that message if Google FI/Claro did stop its service.

I'm thinking of changing my service from T-Mobile to Google FI (Mainly because you get fast data in 200+ countries already priced in). But the problem is that I need 4 Google FI lines to drop the price to what I am paying now with T-Mobile. I hate have slow data when I get off the airplane. And I hate going to Andino Mall to recharge; I couldn't recharge using the Claro App on my phone. It rejected my credit card.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2861274]What you wrote doesn't make sense.

Haven't read about Google FI cancelling their roaming agreement with the providers in any of the 200+ countries. Why would the service work for 2, then 3 weeks, before going bad. Logically, the only reason I can think of with the facts you wrote is that the SIM slot of your phone is going bad.

The "No SIM Card" message would be displayed when the phone cannot find a SIM in its slot. Don't know why it would display that message if Google FI/Claro did stop its service.

I'm thinking of changing my service from T-Mobile to Google FI (Mainly because you get fast data in 200+ countries already priced in). But the problem is that I need 4 Google FI lines to drop the price to what I am paying now with T-Mobile. I hate have slow data when I get off the airplane. And I hate going to Andino Mall to recharge; I couldn't recharge using the Claro App on my phone. It rejected my credit card.[/QUOTE]You can use this third party app called ding to recharge claro or Tigo with a US credit or debit card. You just want to make sure you recharge before you completely run out of data. (If that happens you will need to use Wi-Fi to recharge or recharge with cash at a gana or many of the papeleria shops).

I have a dual Sim phone with a telcel sim from Mexico and and a Tigo sim from Colombia. I use Ding to recharge my Tigo line before I step foot on the Wingo plane in Cancun and when I arrive in Medellin I switch over to my Tigo sim for data sms and calls and I have service before I even get off of the airplane.

I don't know what fast means to you guys but when I download movies from piratebay / utorrent I get speeds of up to 10 mbps thru the data. And I also get 39 gb of data for 31 k COP (but they give you less if you haven't been with Tigo for at least 12 months).

My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims. Please review the Apple website for more information on that. I have multiple e-sims in multiple countries. T-mobile offers excellent plans, one of which use. So, I am quite comfortable in my international travel using my US based number. I have nothing to hide. I do not live in Colombia. I visit Colombia to attend to my business and girl friend that I have there.

[URL]https://www.t-mobile.com/plan-details[/URL]

So that is the how now let us dress the why for those who need education on telecommunication issues.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2861527][b]Oh and if you are from the Dominican Republic why do you have a Las Vegas phone number?[/b][/QUOTE]Well the short answer is: because I can! LOL! I happen to like Las Vegas a lot. It is my favorite city in the (Dis) United States of America. I do not see the need to set my international operations up for anyone other than for me. I have a system that works.

[B]I am not FROM the Dominican Republic.[/B] Maybe some did not get the memo because they are not on my distribution list? All you have do if you want to know my country of origin is to read my extensive body of posts over the years. Very easy to figure out where I am from and where I currently live. I have nothing to hide. Nor do I need to hide behind my keyboard. I have met / meet my fellow ISG brothers who are not afraid to come out from behind their keyboards all over the world. And I maintain contact with them through WhatsApp and Line.

WhatsApp is the standard for Northern, Central, and the Southern Americas. Line is standard for many countries in East Asia. That is how I communicate. I rarely make a regular phone call or text. Line is a very cool program. If you meet a girl and want to exchange contact information she can show your her QR Code on the spot, you take a picture of it and you receive her Line ID directly. Keeps yours and her phone number private.

In this day an age all you need is a persons country code and their phone number in WhatsApp. If you have internet you can communicate. For more information, please review the attached thumbnail. I get one of those messages each time I have wheels down in a country. All those questioning my bonafides please note this on just one of the many I have received when I arrived in Colombia.

I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.

I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?

[QUOTE=Tumeric1;2861876]I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.

I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?[/QUOTE]My longest day walking in Colombia was 26 miles in Bogota. I've exceeded 20 miles a few times in Medellin. I've walked from Parque Lleras to Envigado at 4 am, and several times between midnight and 2 am. I've walked from Laureles to El Centro and Poblado. I've walked around Bello, Belen, Envigado, Sabaneta, Itagui and many of the less reputable barrios. I'm currently 61 years old and have probably walked over 2,000 miles in Colombia, mostly Medellin.

Is it safe? No. Can it be done safely? Yes.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2861782]My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims. Please review the Apple website for more information on that. I have multiple e-sims in multiple countries. T-mobile offers excellent plans, one of which use. So, I am quite comfortable in my international travel using my US based number. I have nothing to hide. I do not live in Colombia. I visit Colombia to attend to my business and girl friend that I have there.

[URL]https://www.t-mobile.com/plan-details[/URL]

So that is the how now let us dress the why for those who need education on telecommunication issues.

Well the short answer is: because I can! LOL! I happen to like Las Vegas a lot. It is my favorite city in the (Dis) United States of America. I do not see the need to set my international operations up for anyone other than for me. I have a system that works.

[B]I am not FROM the Dominican Republic.[/B] Maybe some did not get the memo because they are not on my distribution list? All you have do if you want to know my country of origin is to read my extensive body of posts over the years. Very easy to figure out where I am from and where I currently live. I have nothing to hide. Nor do I need to hide behind my keyboard. I have met / meet my fellow ISG brothers who are not afraid to come out from behind their keyboards all over the world. And I maintain contact with them through WhatsApp and Line.

WhatsApp is the standard for Northern, Central, and the Southern Americas. Line is standard for many countries in East Asia. That is how I communicate. I rarely make a regular phone call or text. Line is a very cool program. If you meet a girl and want to exchange contact information she can show your her QR Code on the spot, you take a picture of it and you receive her Line ID directly. Keeps yours and her phone number private.

In this day an age all you need is a persons country code and their phone number in WhatsApp. If you have internet you can communicate. For more information, please review the attached thumbnail. I get one of those messages each time I have wheels down in a country. All those questioning my bonafides please note this on just one of the many I have received when I arrived in Colombia.[/QUOTE]LOL you really love to brag about everything. Anyways it makes more sense to have a +57 phone number while you are here. If you use your +1 number then the girls you contact are going to charge you more. By using a +57 WhatsApp and typing in Spanish you get better prices. Plus it just looks more normal to have a +57 number in your daily interactions with people. But I guess for a guy like you (with an IPhone 15 pro max with 512 gb of almacenamiento and what like 16 gigs of RAM) you don't care if you're getting ripped off. You have that "fuck you" money and all the arrogance that goes along with it.

Hope you have a great day.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Tumeric1;2861876]I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.

I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?[/QUOTE]I've been all over Colombia and walking around in public during daytime hours I have never had a problem, other than homeless people asking for change but that happens everywhere. Bogota especially around the Carrera Septima area is real nice to walk around with some good restaurants and bars and lots of people out and about. The weather is cooler so you might want a light jacket. Medellin is warmer but currently we are in the rainy season so pack an umbrella if un will he outside any length of time especially in the afternoons.

I recommend you try Alitas Colombianas and BBC (Bogota Beer Company).

And in Medellin California Buffet near the Ayura metro station in Envigado for an excellent selection of food including sushi, Chinese, and all you can eat grilled to order steaks for about 60 k COP drink included.

A nice day trip from medellin that no one here ever mentions is the town of Caldas, Antioquia (take the metro linea A as far south as possible to estacion La Estrella) then from there look for busses that say "metro caldas" and if you pay with your same civica card as you used on the metro then you get a discount on the bus. Last time I went I got a bottle a Ron de Caldas at a local store there and sat down in their little plaza there under the gazebo drinking my rum and enjoying the scenery (drinking in public is legal here). I felt very safe the entire time and even ran into one of my regular girls who happened to be there confitiando and we ended up going to get a bite to eat and then came back to my place.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Tumeric1;2861876]I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.

I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?[/QUOTE]First thing, is don't look like a target, don't look like a tourist. Wear jeans and a dark t-shirt or polo shirt and you blend in as a local or as a resident gringo, no one bats an eye. Leave the dress shirts, dress shoes, dress belt, shinny watch, etc. At home. You want to blend in as a local resident Gringo living off a pension or such without money. Second, carry just your credit card (and have more than one in case you need to replace it) and cash for the day. My license / passport / etc. I have photos in my cell phone. Carry your wallet and cell phone in front pocket. If you carry your backpack (like when I carry my laptop to a co-working place), carry a generic one over a shoulder and all is good. If it gets crowded, packed, metro, or in el centro, then it is ok to sling backpack on front and protect it with your arms (so no one can open a zipper). Same rules as Barcelona, Paris, or London (where pickpockets are MUCH more active).

Next, and this applies to ANYWHERE in the world. Like NYC, 'walk with purpose', don't wander in circles or let yourself look lost or like a target. Look like you know where you are and where you are going. Even if you don't know, just walk towards shops / lights / businesses and then find a good place to reference your phone. If you need to look at your phone, not a problem, just make sure it is a safe spot not right in front of strangers or at the corner of a street near the street (where guys in a moto could ride up, grab your phone, and go). I usually stop mid-block, then can safely look at my phone. Learn to ask "Habla Ingles?" and if they don't and you need to inquire further; it's ok to use Google Translate. They are used to it.

If strangers approach too closely (more than one especially) expect it to be a standard pickpocket scheme. Shove your hands into those two front pockets to protect your belongings and walk away saying "no gracias" and just walk away. They won't stop you, they were just looking for an easy target.

That's it, people will pretty much leave you alone. People are very friendly (at least pretend to be), so you will smile lots and even not having great Spanish is fun and can endear folks. Treat them all with respect, say "hola" lots, and smile. You will love it.

The only other thing I do, is I do bring a backup cheap Amazon unlocked android phone. My email, WhatsApp, etc. Are synced to it and while it only works on WIFI, it gives me easy portability for backup. When I stay longer than a week I get a local sim for it and use that instead of my main phone (especially if out really late at night).

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2861782]I do not live in Colombia. I visit Colombia to attend to my business and girl friend that I have there.[/QUOTE]I meet a girl in person. Negotiate the price on the spot. And then do the deed. How is that going to get a person charged more for sexual services? Exactly what part did you miss about multiple e-sim capability of my iPhone? How difficult is it to have a +57 country code? Especially when my phone allows for dual sims to be active. Oh, I am not getting ripped off my jealous ISG Brother with a phone he may or may not be proud of. Because I travel to Colombia on Business and to see my girlfriend. And unlike your friend, I get my ass licked without having to ask (I just mentioned that I liked it) or without having to spend a lot of money while I am there. And she does not care one bit about the country code I am using on my phone. And it should be noted, when you are primarily worried about the price of the pussy you are paying for and mostly doing business like I do, a country code of +1 does not hurt me one bit. But now you wouldn't know that would you considering who you are.

Enjoy your busy days in Colombia. When I am in Colombia I am in chill mode. I mostly read reports, have meetings where I set the times, and fuck.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2862062]LOL you really love to brag about everything. Anyways it makes more sense to have a +57 phone number while you are here. If you use your +1 number then the girls you contact are going to charge you more. By using a +57 WhatsApp and typing in Spanish you get better prices. Plus it just looks more normal to have a +57 number in your daily interactions with people. But I guess for a guy like you (with an IPhone 15 pro max with 512 gb of almacenamiento and what like 16 gigs of RAM) you don't care if you're getting ripped off. You have that "fuck you" money and all the arrogance that goes along with it.

Hope you have a great day.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tumeric1;2861876]I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.

I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?[/QUOTE]I've been coming to Colombia for a number of years, doing a lot of walking around mostly, I don't take that many cabs. Been to Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena and lately mostly Cali and Pereira. Never been robbed. I do most of my walking in the daytime or early evening. If I see some bad boys, I cross the street or go the other way.

One time many years ago in Medellin, some dude stuck his hand in my left pocket. He got nothing, because my dinero is in my right pocket. Keep your wits and stay out of the bad nieghborhoods.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2861782]My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims. Please review the Apple website for more information on that. [/QUOTE]OMG! I am hard as a rock. Is this what you tell all the girls when you first meet them about your phone? They must get so wet they nearly drowned themselves. Can you please tell me more? If you posted some pictures I think I would fall in love. I do not think you meant to impress anyone with that information, but you sure have. I want to be you when I grow up.

[I]Its not bragging if you can back it up.[/I] ― Muhammed Ali.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2862217]OMG! I am hard as a rock. Is this what you tell all the girls when you first meet them about your phone? They must get so wet they nearly drowned themselves. Can you please tell me more? If you posted some pictures I think I would fall in love. I do not think you meant to impress anyone with that information, but you sure have. I want to be you when I grow up.[/QUOTE]I will take your post in jest as I should. [B]LOL![/B].

[B]Hope you are having a great day my ISG Brother. Because I am![/B]

Do you have anything to add about telecommunication issues? Because that is what my original post was about. Do you find that having a +57 country code is an advantage for you? Do you get better prices on the prostitutes you hire? Are there any other advantages?

The girls that I have hired all around the world as my prostitutes have not mentioned to me. Is Colombia special? Do they have a special hate for those with country codes different from them? I have found that in Colombia they do not engage in imposing the "gringo" tax like they do in a country that I have extensive experience in like the Dominican Republic. And that after the local businesses that I frequent say me on a repeated basis, became much more friendly, complemented me on my Spanish and even remember my usual orders.

Keep practicing your comic routine. You have good material. But your delivery needs a little work. [B]ROTFLMAO![/B].

Because I fail to see the importance of having a +57 country code for short term visits. [U]I do not live in Colombia.[/U] I travel all around the world with my +1 country code. I am uncertain that anyone pays attention to it other than those on ISG. In fact this guy is the first person that mentioned it to me:

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2861527][b]Oh and if you are from the Dominican Republic why do you have a Las Vegas phone number?[/b][/QUOTE]He asked the question and I answered him.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2861782]My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims.[/QUOTE]Don't be a hater. If you want one just buy one. It is an amazing model I do not recommend that individuals buy a iPhone 15 if they already have a iPhone 14. I upgraded to the phone that I have from a iPhone XR. The XR still works perfectly. But I ran out of memory. One of the downsides of iPhones. Fixed memory. Advantage for these who use Android OS is that memory on those phones can usually be upgraded by just adding a bigger memory card. And memory cards are a great value these days. Especially if you catch a sale on one.

[B]There is no reason to be jealous or to fall in love with material items. Money is worthless. Last time I checked you cannot take it with you. Stop tripping and get a grip.[/B]

Dear All.

If I can only pick one city, which one should I do my tour?

Bogota seems get better price, but Medellin seems get hotter girls.

The goal of my tour is to BBFS as many girls as possible.

Thanks for all the guidance.

Yours Truly.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2862237][I]Its not bragging if you can back it up.[/I] ― Muhammed Ali.

I will take your post in jest as I should. [B]LOL![/B].

[B]Hope you are having a great day my ISG Brother. Because I am![/B]

Do you have anything to add about telecommunication issues? Because that is what my original post was about. Do you find that having a +57 country code is an advantage for you? Do you get better prices on the prostitutes you hire? Are there any other advantages?

The girls that I have hired all around the world as my prostitutes have not mentioned to me. Is Colombia special? Do they have a special hate for those with country codes different from them? I have found that in Colombia they do not engage in imposing the "gringo" tax like they do in a country that I have extensive experience in like the Dominican Republic. And that after the local businesses that I frequent say me on a repeated basis, became much more friendly, complemented me on my Spanish and even remember my usual orders.

Keep practicing your comic routine. You have good material. But your delivery needs a little work. [B]ROTFLMAO![/B].

Because I fail to see the importance of having a +57 country code for short term visits. [U]I do not live in Colombia.[/U] I travel all around the world with my +1 country code. I am uncertain that anyone pays attention to it other than those on ISG. In fact this guy is the first person that mentioned it to me:

He asked the question and I answered him.

Don't be a hater. If you want one just buy one. It is an amazing model I do not recommend that individuals buy a iPhone 15 if they already have a iPhone 14. I upgraded to the phone that I have from a iPhone XR. The XR still works perfectly. But I ran out of memory. One of the downsides of iPhones. Fixed memory. Advantage for these who use Android OS is that memory on those phones can usually be upgraded by just adding a bigger memory card. And memory cards are a great value these days. Especially if you catch a sale on one.

[B]There is no reason to be jealous or to fall in love with material items. Money is worthless. Last time I checked you cannot take it with you. Stop tripping and get a grip.[/B][/QUOTE]I've always used my +1 number in Colombia, including during the year I lived there. When I needed to replace my phone, I purchased a dual SIM model and ran my TMobile SIM with a Claro SIM, only using Claro data if I couldn't get a connection with TMobile.

I can't say that having a +1 number affected any prices. It's quite obvious I'm not a native Colombian, my failure to use colloquialisms, especially diminutives, guaranteed nobody would think I'm from Medellin. Besides, I have no need to lie to the girls.

Personally I'm in the android camp. For me a good phone is worth splurging on. I've got a cheap Samsung as an emergency backup, but it takes forever to do anything and the camera is crap. TMobile is probably the best option for frequent travelers, although due to coverage issues I switched to Verizon years ago.

Bogota and Medellin are both good.

Medellin is better weather, unless you get lucky in Bogota, which is unlikely. Easily 10-12 F colder in Bogota, all the time, night and day, which can be annoying.

Provenza, Parque Llleras and surrounding areas of Medellin have much more in terms of nice restaurants, bars, regular clubs, etc. , in addition to the girls in the clubs and on the streets, so if it's not a trip focused 100% on sex, I'd definitely go with Medellin.

That said, if you're just trying to hit as many girls as possible, I think Santa Fe Bogota is easier as there are so many options in a small area.

[QUOTE=MahaSiddha;2862503]Dear All.

If I can only pick one city, which one should I do my tour?

Bogota seems get better price, but Medellin seems get hotter girls.

The goal of my tour is to BBFS as many girls as possible.

Thanks for all the guidance.

Yours Truly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MahaSiddha;2862503]Dear All.

If I can only pick one city, which one should I do my tour?

Bogota seems get better price, but Medellin seems get hotter girls.

The goal of my tour is to BBFS as many girls as possible.

Thanks for all the guidance.

Yours Truly.[/QUOTE]Bogota is the best. Go to [URL]prepagos.com[/URL] and look how many girls in Bogota via Medellin. Pics are fake. Don't look at the photos it's bulshit. Pusy is pusy even on the moon. Fanta Fe is #1.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2862544]I've always used my +1 number in Colombia, including during the year I lived there. When I needed to replace my phone, I purchased a dual SIM model and ran my TMobile SIM with a Claro SIM, only using Claro data if I couldn't get a connection with TMobile.

I can't say that having a +1 number affected any prices. It's quite obvious I'm not a native Colombian, my failure to use colloquialisms, especially diminutives, guaranteed nobody would think I'm from Medellin. Besides, I have no need to lie to the girls.

Personally I'm in the android camp. For me a good phone is worth splurging on. I've got a cheap Samsung as an emergency backup, but it takes forever to do anything and the camera is crap. TMobile is probably the best option for frequent travelers, although due to coverage issues I switched to Verizon years ago.[/QUOTE]Qué Chimba.

I don't know what it's about certain people, especially a subset of Americans using neutral language so as to not offend people, who believe that they can go to another country and flash whatever. Then they get whacked and everyone is like OMG what has the world come to stop it just stop! Especially when these are the same characters that criticize Ecuador as not safe this is unbelievable.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Te5mpbpIEjc?si=1dxdfsRVTes4dpYh[/URL]

Online registration with the Colombian government still required by Spirit Airlines before letting you board? What's the website, if still required?

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2862992]I don't know what it's about certain people, especially a subset of Americans using neutral language so as to not offend people, who believe that they can go to another country and flash whatever. Then they get whacked and everyone is like OMG what has the world come to stop it just stop! Especially when these are the same characters that criticize Ecuador as not safe this is unbelievable.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Te5mpbpIEjc?si=1dxdfsRVTes4dpYh[/URL][/QUOTE]They think that because they grew up in the hood in Atlanta or Oakland or South Side Chicago or wherever, that they can act the same way in the hoods here in Colombia. They come down here without any Spanish skills flexing and flossing their gold chains thinking if they can do it in Atlanta they can do it in Cartagena. However what they don't realize is that down here (especially if it's a Venezuelan that's robbing you) they often shoot first and then jack you after you are down.

Its not worth your life over a gold chain or an iPhone. You shouldn't even bring those things to Colombia. They don't realize that there are people here who will do anything necessary to get food for themselves and their families, even if it means killing a tourist to steal his gold chain.

But you know what, maybe the guy didn't die in vain, maybe some other idiots will see what happened and decide not to floss their gold chains down here. So he's actually a martyr to the other idiots.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2863032]They think that because they grew up in the hood in Atlanta or Oakland or South Side Chicago or wherever, that they can act the same way in the hoods here in Colombia. They come down here without any Spanish skills flexing and flossing their gold chains thinking if they can do it in Atlanta they can do it in Cartagena. [/QUOTE]Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.

Colombian congress is considering a bill that, if passed, will give sex workers, including prostitutes and webcam models, all benefits of an employee of any company including "the right to vacations, maternity and paternity leaves, bereavement leaves, service premiums, family day, family compensation funds and other benefits that come with a formal job in the country. "

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/promueven-ley-para-que-la-prostitucion-sea-un-trabajo-formal-OG22715478[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2863055]Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.[/QUOTE]Well obviously you're not the "hip hop" generation I was referring to. For one you speak Spanish and for two you're not flashing any gold chains in Cartagena.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2863055]Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.[/QUOTE]And don't think I'm referring to just black people because there's dumbass whiteboys doing the same stupid shit, look at Post Malone for example. If Post Malone were to come to Colombia he would probably get fucking murked and then they'd pull his teeth out.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2863069]Colombian congress is considering a bill that, if passed, will give sex workers, including prostitutes and webcam models, all benefits of an employee of any company including "the right to vacations, maternity and paternity leaves, bereavement leaves, service premiums, family day, family compensation funds and other benefits that come with a formal job in the country. "

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/promueven-ley-para-que-la-prostitucion-sea-un-trabajo-formal-OG22715478[/URL][/QUOTE]This was tried in Ecuador it failed, Colombia, Ecuador, Panama most Latin American countries with exceptions have extra salaries, profit sharing, and even higher social safety net than in the US more akin to European countries, one problem and most businesses are in the business of making the most amount of profit for the least amount of cost this is true in all business, for example in Ecuador when they tried that they made the sex workers independent contractors back in the day if you found a SW she would usually stay in that town, in that exact same club, and perhaps working the same hours so her patrons would gravitate there, now clubs do not tell a girl what time to come in, they don't tell a girl what to wear, they really only tell them to bring their health ministry check up and she can work and leave as she pleases. From a business point of view, it is chaotic, try running a supermarket that way, but for the sex industry, it limits liability so, in essence, SW at least in Ecuador is more like an "independent contractor" situation and the girls move, the go-to different club's different cities they are doing that anyway now they will just do it more often plus Colombia has several wealthier countries on their border Panama, Ecuador, Costa Rica, that have larger per capita incomes. Trust me nothing will change unless they are willing to change the prices in that case whatever attractiveness Colombia has will go down as other countries offer the same service for less.

Doom out.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2863069]Colombian congress is considering a bill that, if passed, will give sex workers, including prostitutes and webcam models, all benefits of an employee of any company including "the right to vacations, maternity and paternity leaves, bereavement leaves, service premiums, family day, family compensation funds and other benefits that come with a formal job in the country. "

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/promueven-ley-para-que-la-prostitucion-sea-un-trabajo-formal-OG22715478[/URL][/QUOTE]There's also some other strange stuff in there. How about this: "Furthermore, the articles are clear regarding the rules that will be imposed on clients, understood as people of legal age who pay for sexual services, such as periodic checks for sexually transmitted infections, the use of permanent condoms, the payment of agreed values and prohibit any type of violence or abuse. " What is a permanent condom? If that were to become law, would we have to show results of a recent STD test when entering the country?

Also, since profiting from another person performing sexual activities (pimping) is illegal, who will be responsible for providing the benefits?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2863110]There's also some other strange stuff in there. How about this: "Furthermore, the articles are clear regarding the rules that will be imposed on clients, understood as people of legal age who pay for sexual services, such as periodic checks for sexually transmitted infections, the use of permanent condoms, the payment of agreed values and prohibit any type of violence or abuse. " What is a permanent condom? If that were to become law, would we have to show results of a recent STD test when entering the country?

Also, since profiting from another person performing sexual activities (pimping) is illegal, who will be responsible for providing the benefits?[/QUOTE]It most likely will not become law. Even if it didx it would be unenforceable.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2863110]There's also some other strange stuff in there. How about this: "Furthermore, the articles are clear regarding the rules that will be imposed on clients, understood as people of legal age who pay for sexual services, such as periodic checks for sexually transmitted infections, the use of permanent condoms, the payment of agreed values and prohibit any type of violence or abuse. " What is a permanent condom? If that were to become law, would we have to show results of a recent STD test when entering the country?

Also, since profiting from another person performing sexual activities (pimping) is illegal, who will be responsible for providing the benefits?[/QUOTE]Maybe it's strange due to a translation issue? Google Translate is not the answer to everything. It doesn't know ser from estar, for example.

[URL]https://www.msn.com/es-co/noticias/nacional/macabro-este-es-el-veh%C3%ADculo-del-horror-donde-hac%C3%ADan-paseos-millonarios-a-extranjeros-en-medell%C3%ADn-encontraron-nueve-tipos-de-sangre/ar-AA1j0maV?cvid=7c14d18f15f24df089e9cf2f31b4f8bf&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=13[/URL]

As you can read in the article, it would be difficult to have as good a vacation anything like this anywhere except Colombia. For reference, this article is specific to medellin but it could be anywhere in Colombia. By the way, did anyone read about the family of luis diaz, the soccer player. You go ahead and google that one on your own.

These days now that Colombia has been become infested with foreigners, if you want colombianas for the legend of the sexy colombianas, almost anywhere in the world is a better place to find them now than in Colombia.

Have a great vacation and welcome to Colombia gringo. Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Claro que si. Un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.

I suspect the medellin board has died along with many of its most ardent contributors.

Where else did everyone go? Dead is where.

And one final piece of advice, if you are in Colombia for chicas and you are talking to a man, any man, you have fucked up and you are figuratively fucked and literally not fucked.

Colombia is not for chillen. The first guy portrayed in the article is a tough young israeli and they got him bad.

Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Fui un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.

Roflmao.

Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I have heard a lot of great things about Medellin though and would love to come there to p4 p after I've had experiences in other places. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2864107][URL]https://www.msn.com/es-co/noticias/nacional/macabro-este-es-el-veh%C3%ADculo-del-horror-donde-hac%C3%ADan-paseos-millonarios-a-extranjeros-en-medell%C3%ADn-encontraron-nueve-tipos-de-sangre/ar-AA1j0maV?cvid=7c14d18f15f24df089e9cf2f31b4f8bf&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=13[/URL][/QUOTE][I]After obtaining the loot, the network would spend the money on electronic parties, pink cocaine, orgies, liquor, gold and high-value household appliances and then resell it when they ran out of money, after having squandered it on the unbridled life of crime they led.[/I] LOL.

[I]Then, they reviewed the profiles of their victims, usually men between 30 and 50 years of age whose photos showed gold chains, expensive watches or trips to different countries, that is, who demonstrated a good purchasing power.[/I]

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;2864157]Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I have heard a lot of great things about Medellin though and would love to come there to p4 p after I've had experiences in other places. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.[/QUOTE]I would probably start in Tijuana and the Hong Kong club and then go deeper from there.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2863257]Maybe it's strange due to a translation issue? Google Translate is not the answer to everything. It doesn't know ser from estar, for example.[/QUOTE]Look at the original Spanish version: "Además, el articulado es claro en cuanto a las reglas que se van a imponer a los clientes, entendidos como personas mayores de edad que pagan por servicios sexuales, como controles periódicos de infecciones de transmisión sexual, el uso de condón permanente, el pago de los valores pactados y prohibir cualquier tipo de violencia o maltrato.".

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2864190]Look at the original Spanish version: "Adems, el articulado es claro en cuanto a las reglas que se van a imponer a los clientes, entendidos como personas mayores de edad que pagan por servicios sexuales, como controles peridicos de infecciones de transmisin sexual, el uso de condn permanente, el pago de los valores pactados y prohibir cualquier tipo de violencia o maltrato.".[/QUOTE]'Permanente' also translates as "all the time. "

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2864107][URL]https://www.msn.com/es-co/noticias/nacional/macabro-este-es-el-veh%C3%ADculo-del-horror-donde-hac%C3%ADan-paseos-millonarios-a-extranjeros-en-medell%C3%ADn-encontraron-nueve-tipos-de-sangre/ar-AA1j0maV?cvid=7c14d18f15f24df089e9cf2f31b4f8bf&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=13[/URL]

As you can read in the article, it would be difficult to have as good a vacation anything like this anywhere except Colombia. For reference, this article is specific to medellin but it could be anywhere in Colombia. By the way, did anyone read about the family of luis diaz, the soccer player. You go ahead and google that one on your own.

These days now that Colombia has been become infested with foreigners, if you want colombianas for the legend of the sexy colombianas, almost anywhere in the world is a better place to find them now than in Colombia.

Have a great vacation and welcome to Colombia gringo. Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Claro que si. Un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.

I suspect the medellin board has died along with many of its most ardent contributors.

Where else did everyone go? Dead is where.

And one final piece of advice, if you are in Colombia for chicas and you are talking to a man, any man, you have fucked up and you are figuratively fucked and literally not fucked.

Colombia is not for chillen. The first guy portrayed in the article is a tough young israeli and they got him bad.

Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Fui un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.

Roflmao.[/QUOTE]But "it's no more dangerous than the US ", "I went once and nothing happened to me".

Colombia to charge Canadians a reciprocity fee of 256,000 COP on entry into the country starting November 14,2023.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/en-pocos-dias-los-viajeros-canadienses-deberan-pagar-su-ingreso-a-colombia/1516839/[/URL]#google_vignett.

So the other day a video on YouTube piked my interest about someone dying in a hotel in Poblado after coming into the hotel with 2 ladies of Venezuelan origin, the investigators had done their job he clearly died of an overdose of scopolamine and then an Aussie got shot for resisting arrest, so the question becomes is it worth it to go to Colombia anymore. ?

[URL]https://youtu.be/pCeBTBkTzlM?si=FtqnF4fJ_wPdjFTr[/URL]

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;2864157]Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I have heard a lot of great things about Medellin though and would love to come there to p4 p after I've had experiences in other places. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. [b]One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.[/b][/QUOTE][B]Dominican Republic.[/B]

Sosua is very newbie friendly. The Dominican Republic cares about tourists. The Colombian GOV simply does not give a fuck about them. Lets them get killed and makes not investigative effort to solve the crime. If a US tourist or any tourist gets killed in the Dominican Republic it is a national RED BALL and the crime gets solved. And the perpetrators goto jail. Not that it helps the victim. But is does give the bad guys pause. Please post an article about the last tourist that was SCOPED in Sousa (and wound up robbed or dead).

And for those who are going to question my information, please go read my body of posts during my time in the Dominican Republic Just stay focused on the deal and not the girl. No need to pay weekend millionaire prices just because there are others that do. [B]No FOMO![/B].

Make judgments for yourself. There is not need to listen to people who have axes to grind for as [B]Trip D[/B] (our local Cali expert would say) [I]"reasons"[/I]. And please do not worry about using a 1 country code in Colombia or the Dominican Republic. A SIM card in the Dominican Republic costs between 100 - 200 DOP. I don't know exactly. I have not bought one for years.

[URL]https://youtu.be/1iZz1sSs92k?si=66aIVTjGXR7qJbYl[/URL]

Watch the entire video for context or you can goto time stamp 15:00 and pick it up from there. [B]A man has to have a purpose.[/B] Chasing pussy is an activity. Awareness of what is happening in the world is also important.

So, much for those who question my business investments into Colombia. I also see great potential investment wise. Of course, the guerrillas could run up on me with that AK-47 and they get what they want. Those promoting Colombia as safe are doing a disservice to new people. Irresponsible at best, criminally negligent at worst.

Gabacho, you made a good choice when it comes to quality of life with reasonable costs. [B]Much respect to you my ISG Brother.[/B] It's all good!

[URL]https://youtu.be/MrkA_OapfPU?si=dOAW_OA5H-CqfoRZ[/URL]

Security Alert: USA Embassy Bogota – Cartagena Independence Day Festivities 2023.

Location: Cartagena.

Event: The Embassy advises USA Citizens to maintain a high level of security awareness and take extra safety precautions while transiting the city throughout the November 9-12 Independence Day festivities.

An increase in petty theft is expected, along with the potential for ad hoc non-police checkpoints and confrontations for money and / or valuables.

The Embassy recommends that USA Citizen avoid areas / neighborhoods east of Centro Commercial Caribe Plaza. Pay extra precaution if you need to drive through these areas as many illegal road blockages can be found on the streets to ask for money. Stay on main routes only, avoid large crowds, and avoid confrontations with festival participants. There have been reports of individuals manning blockades and throwing paint or rocks at vehicles who do not contribute coins as they pass.

The Embassy reminds USA Citizens visiting Colombia of the potential for interaction with criminals using scopolamine or other drugs to temporarily incapacitate unsuspecting victims and then rob or assault them. Victims of scopolamine-related crimes are often targeted in bars, night clubs, or through dating apps. Avoid leaving food or drinks unattended at a bar or restaurant, and refuse offers of something to eat or drink from a stranger.

The Embassy also reminds USA Citizens visiting Colombia that USA Government employees are prohibited from hailing taxis on the street due to the risk of assault or robbery. USA Citizens have been killed during robberies while using taxis. Use a dispatch service or cell phone app whenever possible.

The USA Department of State advises citizens to reconsider travel to Colombia due to crime, terrorism, and COVID-19 and to exercise increased caution in Colombia due to civil unrest and kidnapping.

Geez I came on here to check out the latest on Medellin as I am contemplating a trip next Month. I was torn between here and Tijuana which I know oh so well.

I have been to Medellin a few times but with a group of guys for a long weekend. This time it would be solo. This recent talk of danger has me second guessing things and might just go back to my old faithful Tijuana.

Tijuana just has lost some of the spark for me, and when I was in parque Lleras partying with so many hot women, it gave me the rush I had in Tijuana 8 years ago.

Now I just keep thinking being solo the dangers are magnified ten fold. Especially since I was planning a week long trip this time.

Someone walk me off the ledge or confirm I need to keep my ass in Tijuana!

[QUOTE=SlickVick0303;2866859]Geez I came on here to check out the latest on Medellin as I am contemplating a trip next Month. I was torn between here and Tijuana which I know oh so well.

I have been to Medellin a few times but with a group of guys for a long weekend. This time it would be solo. This recent talk of danger has me second guessing things and might just go back to my old faithful Tijuana.

Tijuana just has lost some of the spark for me, and when I was in parque Lleras partying with so many hot women, it gave me the rush I had in Tijuana 8 years ago.

Now I just keep thinking being solo the dangers are magnified ten fold. Especially since I was planning a week long trip this time.

Someone walk me off the ledge or confirm I need to keep my ass in Tijuana![/QUOTE]Just use common sense and you will be fine. Don't bring two unknown venezuelan girls back to your hotel room or Airbnb for starters. Don't go out late at night. Don't carry around your iPhone 15 pro max and pull it out in front of everyone. Dress casual (no gold chains).

Basically read up in here RTFF and read news from Colombia. Watch YouTube videos from this dude DCBornRob, and basically all the idiots who have gotten killed here in the last I'd say 3 years, don't do the stupid shit that they did. A little common sense will go a long way.

I myself have made some mistakes along the way; thank God I didn't get scoped or killed, but I once had a laptop stolen. I learned from the experience and it made me change the way I was doing things, it made me be more sharp and alerted especially when I have anyone over to my place, and it made me see venezuelans for whom they really are.

My advice is to stay in Centro and fuck the girls in the Botero / Veracruz church area and use the short time hotels. You will be fine.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2863055]Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.[/QUOTE]Did you know Wayne Wlliams?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2866978]Just use common sense and you will be fine. Don't bring two unknown venezuelan girls back to your hotel room or Airbnb for starters. Don't go out late at night. Don't carry around your iPhone 15 pro max and pull it out in front of everyone. Dress casual (no gold chains).

Basically read up in here RTFF and read news from Colombia. Watch YouTube videos from this dude DCBornRob, and basically all the idiots who have gotten killed here in the last I'd say 3 years, don't do the stupid shit that they did. A little common sense will go a long way.

I myself have made some mistakes along the way; thank God I didn't get scoped or killed, but I once had a laptop stolen. I learned from the experience and it made me change the way I was doing things, it made me be more sharp and alerted especially when I have anyone over to my place, and it made me see venezuelans for whom they really are.

My advice is to stay in Centro and fuck the girls in the Botero / Veracruz church area and use the short time hotels. You will be fine.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gabacho. I am a low key guy by nature so has never really been an issue on that front. I am from a high crime diverse city so keeping a low profile and street smarts has just become normal for me at this point. Of course that isn't to compare inner city US to a whole other country, but I keep my wits and know that trusting anyone is a no no.

Thanks for the advice on those YouTube vids, spent time watching those and def just adds to the caution on my end.

I am pretty fluent in spanish at this point I would say 80% even. Working in Mexico for so long I have that type of accent and know the lingo. Doesn't keep me from standing out as a tourist in Medellin though as their dialect and phrases differ quite a bit, but at least I can communicate anything. As far as standing out. I am white white LOL. But with dark hair and dark facial hair, I suppose I can somewhat blend in from the 6'2 blonde surfer wearing flip flops and shorts.

As mentioned. In my previous visits I have gone with 3-5 other guys and all in the same airbnb so wasn't much of an issue as we always traveled together. But first time solo and my passion for partying and privacy has me thinking twice. If I go it is with the lure of parque lleras. I know there is lots of mixed feelings here on that area, but I love it. It's my type of scene and I am honest with the fact that it's where I would want to be. I don't see my self finding something on the street but would see myself at Gusto, Montecarlo or Glow and taking a girl back.

I would never take 2 women back at the same time and if I find a Venezuelan even a bigger of a no go. I like airbnb because I like privacy, where most want a hotel with security. I don't like that BS. The worrying of checking in then taking the walk of shame or just simply the hassle of trying to find a hotel to take them is such a pain in the ass.

So my fear is going alone to the 3 clubs among others alone and after a few days of frequenting these spots I am sure it will become obvious I am solo and become a target. I suppose I can switch it up, but still.

I might have have to look into Centro. But tbh I am not much into the street girl scene which is why I like the club scene much much more.

Might just do a Vegas / Tijuana trip if I get cold feet. Even thought the flight cost is actually cheaper for Medellin.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867020]Did you know Wayne Wlliams?[/QUOTE]I know of him, but I did not know him. I was 8 at the time. His house was close to 2 of my great aunts. That summer my cousin won a trip to Guadeloupe from our recreation center because of those events. That mf was always lucky.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2867744]Leave the rides at the amusement park gentlemen.

A Bethel Park police lieutenant pleaded guilty to transporting an 18-year-old Venezuelan woman he met while she was working as a prostitute in Colombia into the United States, prosecutors said.

BB, 59, pleaded guilty to one count of transporting an illegal alien within the United States, the Department of Justice announced on Wednesday.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/pittsburgh/news/bethel-park-police-lieutenant-pleads-guilty-transporting-18-year-old-woman-into-united-states/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey I aint mad at the guy. He was able to do the impossible and actually get his own personal amusement park snuck back into his country. What I'm curious to know is who ratted on him. I sure hope he wasnt a dumbass to himself by using his own personal phone and / or work phone to exchange text message with the girl.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2867721]I know of him, but I did not know him. I was 8 at the time. His house was close to 2 of my great aunts. That summer my cousin won a trip to Guadeloupe from our recreation center because of those events. That mf was always lucky.[/QUOTE]You were about the age he targeted. Why was he able to kill so many kids without anyone noticing who it was. He killed close to 30.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2825880]I don't agree with second part of point 4 and I did not review the other points. I would say Norte Americano is better.[/QUOTE]I'm going to show you two examples that support the second part of point 4. To save you the trouble of looking up point 4, here it is again:

4) "Americano" in Spanish can refer to people from the continent of America (with an accent over the e) or it can refer to people from the United States of America, depending on the context and the speaker.

Since America refers to a continent in Romance language countries, "americano" should mean a person from the continent of America. However, I have found that native Spanish-speakers do sometimes use term "americano" to refer to a person from the United States of America. Other terms in Spanish that can be used to refer to a person from the United States of America: estadounidense, gringo, and norteamericano.

Here are two examples from reddit:

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/159dd0g/mujeres_con_novio_americano/[/URL]

"Sienten ustedes que los hombres americanos son muy distantes emocionalmente? Incluso cuando hacen el delicioso?"

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/17sb09e/comment/k8p4vbx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3[/URL]

"Claro que debo decir que se asocia la palabra mas con los blancos dado que el estereotipo de un americano es una persona blanca."

Personally, I avoid using the term "americano" in Spanish because it can also mean someone from the continent of America.

[QUOTE=XXL;2825676]That's why Spanish speakers will refer to "los gringos" if they want to be more precise. The discussion is made more complicated by the fact that the Spanish language likes plurals, even when no plurality is meant:

Las Americas (SA + NA)
Feliz navidades ("Merry Christmas", plural though only one Christmas is meant)
Buenos dias
Buenas tardes

Interestingly, no such thing in Portuguese, except maybe for "as americas" in the historical sense.
Feliz natal
Bom dia
Boa tarde[/QUOTE]Spanish also has "buen día" I use it often as a synonym for Chao usually at a grocery store after paying for my groceries, I'll say "gracias, buen theía" unless if it is in the evening then I'll replace it with "Feliz noche".

Also "feliz navidades" is incorrect because you pluralized the navidades but not the feliz, it would be "felices navidades" however in my experience I haven't heard that used, I always hear "Feliz Navidad" but for Easter I have heard "felices pascuas" used quite often.

Las Américas is plural because it refers to both North and South America there are two and that is why it is Las Americas. Some countries do teach that the whole of north and south America is one continent tho but I think it's still broken up into sub regions such as North Central and South.

[QUOTE=Trim1;2870744]I'm going to show you two examples that support the second part of point 4. To save you the trouble of looking up point 4, here it is again:

4) "Americano" in Spanish can refer to people from the continent of America (with an accent over the e) or it can refer to people from the United States of America, depending on the context and the speaker.

Since America refers to a continent in Romance language countries, "americano" should mean a person from the continent of America. However, I have found that native Spanish-speakers do sometimes use term "americano" to refer to a person from the United States of America. Other terms in Spanish that can be used to refer to a person from the United States of America: estadounidense, gringo, and norteamericano.

Here are two examples from reddit:

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/159dd0g/mujeres_con_novio_americano/[/URL]

"Sienten ustedes que los hombres americanos son muy distantes emocionalmente? Incluso cuando hacen el delicioso?"

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/17sb09e/comment/k8p4vbx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3[/URL]

"Claro que debo decir que se asocia la palabra mas con los blancos dado que el estereotipo de un americano es una persona blanca."

Personally, I avoid using the term "americano" in Spanish because it can also mean someone from the continent of America.[/QUOTE]When a person in Colombia says to me 'de donde' I reply, 'de California. ' End of conversation. They know what that means.

[QUOTE=Trim1;2870744]Personally, I avoid using the term "americano" in Spanish because it can also mean someone from the continent of America.[/QUOTE]I always use estadounidense from referring to the US of A. Even saying you are from the US is not good because of México, which is 'LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos' and thus also the US.

You are technically right but I've never heard a Mexican call himself an Americano.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2871344]I always use estadounidense from referring to the US of A. Even saying you are from the US is not good because of Mxico, which is 'LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos' and thus also the US.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2870838]When a person in Colombia says to me 'de donde' I reply, 'de California. ' End of conversation. They know what that means.[/QUOTE]For sure, except there are a couple of little towns in Colombia named California -- one near Bucuramanga. I go with estadounidense. I have never heard a Mexican call themself that. Gringo is generally understood and means any foreigner. (Gringo in Mexico mostly means estadounidenses, but is also used for Canadians there.).

Between Christmas and New Years, which is better in terms of available street girls? Cucuta or Medellin? One way I think the Cucuta girls will all return to Venezuela for the holidays. Then I think many will stay for the money or not have enough money to return. Blah blah blah. I only need to hear from the guys that have actually been in Cucuta at Christmas and New Years. What the rest of us think does not matter.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2871459]Between Christmas and New Years, which is better in terms of available street girls? Cucuta or Medellin? One way I think the Cucuta girls will all return to Venezuela for the holidays. Then I think many will stay for the money or not have enough money to return. Blah blah blah. I only need to hear from the guys that have actually been in Cucuta at Christmas and New Years. What the rest of us think does not matter.[/QUOTE]Cucuta sounds fun I haven't been in like a year. Maybe I'll go for new years and report what it's like.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2871350]You are technically right but I've never heard a Mexican call himself an Americano.[/QUOTE]Neither have I, but due to the onerous nature of the Treaty of Guadlupe Hidalgo, by which quisling Santa Anna donated almost half his country to the Yew Ess, I err on the side of caution. I haven't heard a méxican [B]refer[/B] to themselves as americano, yet I have seen instances where mexicanos mildly rebuked and informed estadounidenses about what we just discussed. A couple of times over the years. It's not a real hot button.

Splitting hairs at this point.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2871637]Neither have I, but due to the onerous nature of the Treaty of Guadlupe Hidalgo, by which quisling Santa Anna donated almost half his country to the Yew Ess, I err on the side of caution. I haven't heard a mxican [B]refer[/B] to themselves as americano, yet I have seen instances where mexicanos mildly rebuked and informed estadounidenses about what we just discussed. A couple of times over the years. It's not a real hot button.[/QUOTE]

[I]According to the statistics, the Prosecutor General's Office successfully prosecuted 11,816 criminals in 2022, which is 0. 7% of the 1,648,388 crimes reported by citizens. [/I]

So it seems that a criminal has about 99% chance of not being prosecuted.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/colombias-prosecution-all-but-collapsed-statistics-suggest/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2872592][I]According to the statistics, the Prosecutor General's Office successfully prosecuted 11,816 criminals in 2022, which is 0. 7% of the 1,648,388 crimes reported by citizens. [/I]

So it seems that a criminal has about 99% chance of not being prosecuted.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/colombias-prosecution-all-but-collapsed-statistics-suggest/[/URL][/QUOTE]They don't catch many of them.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2872592][I]According to the statistics, the Prosecutor General's Office successfully prosecuted 11,816 criminals in 2022, which is 0. 7% of the 1,648,388 crimes reported by citizens. [/I]

So it seems that a criminal has about 99% chance of not being prosecuted.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/colombias-prosecution-all-but-collapsed-statistics-suggest/[/URL][/QUOTE]Your statistics are flawed. You stated that 11,816 criminals were prosecuted (that means 11,816 people were arrested and prosecuted, not 11,816 criminal acts being prosecuted). Then you go on to say that there were 1,648,388 criminal acts reported and do some simple math to come up with and percentage (0. 7%) prosecution rate.

However you fail to take into account that many of the 1,648,388 criminal acts that were reported were most likely committed by the same people committing multiple crimes. It's not like its one crime per one person, then they just stop. I'm willing to bet that there are groups of people committing many crimes per person before they get caught and prosecuted and if that is the case then the percentage of people commiting the crimes in respect to the total amount of crimes being reported would be a different percentage than the 0. 7% that you stated.

Also what about crimes that go unreported in the first place?

What about organized crime syndicates that have the police in their pockets?

What about police themselves who are committing crimes?

As you can see the issue is not as cut and dry as you suggested.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2872684]Your statistics are flawed. You stated that 11,816 criminals were prosecuted (that means 11,816 people were arrested and prosecuted, not 11,816 criminal acts being prosecuted). Then you go on to say that there were 1,648,388 criminal acts reported and do some simple math to come up with and percentage (0. 7%) prosecution rate.

However you fail to take into account that many of the 1,648,388 criminal acts that were reported were most likely committed by the same people committing multiple crimes. It's not like its one crime per one person, then they just stop. I'm willing to bet that there are groups of people committing many crimes per person before they get caught and prosecuted and if that is the case then the percentage of people commiting the crimes in respect to the total amount of crimes being reported would be a different percentage than the 0. 7% that you stated.

Also what about crimes that go unreported in the first place?

What about organized crime syndicates that have the police in their pockets?

What about police themselves who are committing crimes?

As you can see the issue is not as cut and dry as you suggested.[/QUOTE]True, all valid points. The statistic doesn't say how many of the reported crimes were 11,816 prosecuted criminals responsible for, which would be better info.

In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the [URL]XE.com[/URL] rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878157]In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the [URL]XE.com[/URL] rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.[/QUOTE]Davivienda doesn't charge any ATM fees. If they did charge an ATM fee they would have to explicitly state that there is a fee and how much the fee is and give you the option to decline or accept the fee as do all atms that charge fees.

What you experienced is the exchange rate being applied to your transaction being slightly different than the exchange rate you saw online. I don't use XE or Visa exchange rates but I will look up "usd to cop" on Google and this will show an exchange rate for the current day as well as previous days.

Usually if you take the Google rate from the previous day or 2 days before, this is what you will get from Davivienda ATM machines, however sometimes it's about 50 COP per dollar higher and sometimes it's about 50 COP lower than what Google says (a negligible difference considering it currently takes 4000 to make one dollar, or 3960 LOL).

I have noticed that when the Google rate tends to be going up higher for the past cpl days before using the ATM then Davivienda will give about 50 cop per dollar over Google and when usd / cop is trending down Davivienda will give about 50 cop under Google.

The only logical explanation is that Davivienda uses a different exchange rate. It's not a fee because they legally have to ask you to accept it if it is a fee.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878157]In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the [URL]XE.com[/URL] rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.[/QUOTE]It is weird though how you got 2 different rates on the same day unless if the first withdraw was before they updated the daily rate and the second withdraw was after they updated it. I think around 3 pm each day they change the rate except for on weekends and Mondays.

You can also try using Banco Caja Social but they only let you withdraw 300 mil at a time (but you can do as many fee-free withdrawals as need be) and have a bad habit of giving out 100 mil notes.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878157]In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the [URL]XE.com[/URL] rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.[/QUOTE]Also the exchange rate (according to Google) hasn't been 3999 at all this week since atleast Monday.

See attached screenshots.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878157]In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the [URL]XE.com[/URL] rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.[/QUOTE]I've suspected this myself, and usually use Servibanca for that reason.

Please let us know at the end of the month whether Schwab refunds it or not.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2878188]Also the exchange rate (according to Google) hasn't been 3999 at all this week since atleast Monday.

See attached screenshots.[/QUOTE]Looking at [URL]XE.com[/URL], at 3 pm on Wednesday, it was 3999.43.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878226]Looking at [URL]XE.com[/URL], at 3 pm on Wednesday, it was 3999.43.[/QUOTE]Intraday rates mean nothing though. The way it works is at the end of each day whatever the closing rate is when the market closes, that will determine the ATM rate for the next business day (and it may be one business day behind).

If you look on Google (or I assume XE as well) you will notice the exchange rates start going up and down starting around 8 am (on business days) and it can peak and dip through out the day until around 5 pm. But those peaks and dips are called Intraday and mean nothing, only when it stops moving for the day around 5 pm that is the rate that will affect the ATM rate in the days that follow.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878226]Looking at [URL]XE.com[/URL], at 3 pm on Wednesday, it was 3999.43.[/QUOTE]Let's say for the sake of argument that you are correct and Davivienda is charging a fee of 15 mil pesos per withdrawal. Legally wouldn't they have to disclose the fact that they are charging a 15 mil fee and ask the user to accept or decline it?

Every other ATM that charges a fee such as Bancolombia and the others all disclose their fee and give the option to decline or accept it. If it wasn't required to disclose it, I'm sure the other banks wouldn't ask they would just hide the fee too. So how do you explain that Davivienda could legally hide a fee in their exchange rate and the other banks can't?

Furthermore, after doing some research I found that the exchange rate isn't even determined by the ATM owner, it is determined by either visa or mastercard (depending on the logo on your debit card) and it is based off of something called the midmarket exchange rate at 5:30 pm UTC time from two business days prior.

So with that being the case how exactly would Davivienda be able to sneak a 15 k hidden fee into the exchange rate if they aren't even able to control the exchange rate?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878157]In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the [URL]XE.com[/URL] rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.[/QUOTE]Your problems start with "ATM exchange rate". Decline the bank's exchange rate and let your credit card or US bank handle the exchange via their commercial rate.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2878309]Your problems start with "ATM exchange rate". Decline the bank's exchange rate and let your credit card or US bank handle the exchange via their commercial rate.[/QUOTE]You didn't see this in my report "declining the bank exchange rate each time"?

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2878309]Your problems start with "ATM exchange rate". Decline the bank's exchange rate and let your credit card or US bank handle the exchange via their commercial rate.[/QUOTE]I don't think that he's that stupid.

I think he is declining the Davivienda exchange rate and he is trying to say that Davivienda is somehow sneaking a 15 k COP into the mid-market rate calculated by visa or mastercard. This is evidenced by his original post when he stated he was charged 2 different rates of 3969 per dollar and then 3960 per dollar. What in fact happened is that each day during the week the rate changes at the ATM at around 3 pm and his firdt withdraw was before they changed for that day and his second withdraw (even if it was back to back) was most likely right after the rate had been changed for the day.

If you look at the screen shots I posted the closing rate on Wednesday was at 3970 per dollar and the day after that it closed around 3960.

Yes, Davivienda started charging 15 k fee somewhere at the beginning of this month.

What's fucked up is they don't put any warning at the ATM and paper receipt says fee equals 0.

I have Visa debit card and I see the fee on my ATM statement in the app (Revolut).

Other people reported this too, check Medellin Expats FB group.

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2878352]Yes, Davivienda started charging 15 k fee somewhere at the beginning of this month.

What's fucked up is they don't put any warning at the ATM and paper receipt says fee equals 0.

I have Visa debit card and I see the fee on my ATM statement in the app (Revolut).

Other people reported this too, check Medellin Expats FB group.[/QUOTE]Not sure what card you are using but I use Capital One with a mastercard logo and the maximum I can withdrawl us 2,000,000 COP per transaction and it doesn't charge me any 15 k fee. And when doing the math, the rate I receive is in line with that of Google.

I last used the ATM on Dec 4th and will be using it again this coming Monday and will report back here what happens.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2878290]Furthermore, after doing some research I found that the exchange rate isn't even determined by the ATM owner, it is determined by either visa or mastercard (depending on the logo on your debit card) and it is based off of something called the midmarket exchange rate at 5:30 pm UTC time from two business days prior.[/QUOTE]Assuming your time quote is correct, the exchange rate at 5:30 pm on Wednesday was 3993.37. I only used the 3 pm time because you previously stated that the rate had not been 3999 all week. At one point Wednesday, it was 4001. XE states on their web site that they use midmarket rates. All of my references to rates, except the Visa rate, are from XE.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2878290]So with that being the case how exactly would Davivienda be able to sneak a 15 k hidden fee into the exchange rate if they aren't even able to control the exchange rate?[/QUOTE]The same way that the banks which disclose the fee do it, they add the fee to the amount requested and submit that amount to the clearing house (either Visa or MasterCard). As to your question about disclosing the fee, I don't know the banking laws in Colombia. I have no idea if it's a requirement to disclose the fees. I understand your reasoning of why do banks do it if not required.

I did the two withdrawals at 1:15:53 pm and 1:17:47 pm, local time (6:15:53 pm UTC). So the exchange rate should have been the same for both. I was charged $503.82 for one transaction. Using the Visa exchange rate (3999.43), I should have received 2,014,922.82, or 2,015,000 rounded. I received 2,000,000. $383.81 for the other transaction, which should be 1,535,021.23, or 1,535,000 rounded. I received 1,520,000. That is how I deciphered that there was a 15,000 fee. I'm fairly certain the exchange rate from Visa didn't change between the two transactions.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878360]Assuming your time quote is correct, the exchange rate at 5:30 pm on Wednesday was 3993.37. I only used the 3 pm time because you previously stated that the rate had not been 3999 all week. At one point Wednesday, it was 4001. XE states on their web site that they use midmarket rates. All of my references to rates, except the Visa rate, are from XE.

The same way that the banks which disclose the fee do it, they add the fee to the amount requested and submit that amount to the clearing house (either Visa or MasterCard). As to your question about disclosing the fee, I don't know the banking laws in Colombia. I have no idea if it's a requirement to disclose the fees. I understand your reasoning of why do banks do it if not required.

I did the two withdrawals at 1:15:53 pm and 1:17:47 pm, local time (6:15:53 pm UTC). So the exchange rate should have been the same for both. I was charged $503.82 for one transaction. Using the Visa exchange rate (3999.43), I should have received 2,014,922.82, or 2,015,000 rounded. I received 2,000,000. $383.81 for the other transaction, which should be 1,535,021.23, or 1,535,000 rounded. I received 1,520,000. That is how I deciphered that there was a 15,000 fee. I'm fairly certain the exchange rate from Visa didn't change between the two transactions.[/QUOTE]You might be right then. I still think they should have to disclose the fee and ask you to accept or decline it. Adding it into the exchange rate and not asking you to accept it should be illegal and grounds for a law suit. Now that I think about it the last time I made a withdrawal at Davivienda the amount I calculated that would work was declined and then I tried again for 10 mil less and it went through. Also I got a notification on my phone from capital one saying that I didn't have enough money in my account to cover the withdrawal of $XXX. XX and the amount shown was less than what my avaible balance was, which I thought was weird. If it happens again this Monday I'll take screen shots and post here.

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2878352]Yes, Davivienda started charging 15 k fee somewhere at the beginning of this month.

What's fucked up is they don't put any warning at the ATM and paper receipt says fee equals 0.

I have Visa debit card and I see the fee on my ATM statement in the app (Revolut).

Other people reported this too, check Medellin Expats FB group.[/QUOTE]Well if this is the case then we will off have to go back to using Caja Social and make like 7 withdrawals at a time and then take all the 100 mil notes inside the bank to have them changed for 50 mil notes.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2878221]I've suspected this myself, and usually use Servibanca for that reason.

Please let us know at the end of the month whether Schwab refunds it or not.[/QUOTE]So Servibanca is another one that doesn't charge any fees??

I walk past their atms whenever I go to terminal de norte and I used to always go right past them at the entrance there to go inside and use Davivienda, this was months ago tho.

I never knew they were also a fee-free ATM, I only knew about Davivienda and Caja Social and before March of this year BBVA.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2878406]So Servibanca is another one that doesn't charge any fees??

I walk past their atms whenever I go to terminal de norte and I used to always go right past them at the entrance there to go inside and use Davivienda, this was months ago tho.

I never knew they were also a fee-free ATM, I only knew about Davivienda and Caja Social and before March of this year BBVA.[/QUOTE]They ALL charge fees now, but Servibanca allows you to take up to 2 million at once. And if you have Schwab, those fees get refunded anyway.

What's up in the air is whether Davivienda's fees get refunded or not, since they appear not to appear as separate fees, or maybe they do.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2878359]Not sure what card you are using but I use Capital One with a mastercard logo and the maximum I can withdrawl us 2,000,000 COP per transaction and it doesn't charge me any 15 k fee. And when doing the math, the rate I receive is in line with that of Google.

I last used the ATM on Dec 4th and will be using it again this coming Monday and will report back here what happens.[/QUOTE]I withdrew on Dec 2nd mutiple times and they didn't charge the fee, then on Dec 7th they did. I always had limit of 400 k in Davivienda for some reason, so 15 k is expensive for that now.

Colpatria used to be free but is 18.5 k for up to 900 k, since like half a year ago.

Banco de Bogota reportedly up to 1500 k for 18.5 k fee.

Banco Pichincha had no fee but they closed up the branch in centro, the is another ATM and branch in Poblado apparently but a bit is too far away for me to travel just for that.

Caja Social gives me up to 300 k option, no fee, but unspecified error when withdrawing on both Visa and Mastercard, so it doesn't work.

BBVA 600 k for around 20 mil fee if I remember correctly.

So at the moment for me Servibanca comes as the cheapest and most convenient with up to 2000 k withdrawal for 22.5 k fee (and it works).

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2878492]They ALL charge fees now, but Servibanca allows you to take up to 2 million at once. And if you have Schwab, those fees get refunded anyway.

What's up in the air is whether Davivienda's fees get refunded or not, since they appear not to appear as separate fees, or maybe they do.[/QUOTE]In all of these discussions it seems like people are claiming that they get the mid-market rate somehow, whether it was from closing 2 business days back or whatever. Through the Visa or Mastercard clearing systems. What about the currency conversion cost? Visa and Mastercard supposedly charge 1%. So people say that gets refunded by Shwab or whoever, but I don't get how you can look at your bank statement and not see that?

In my case it is 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent and my bank (and all other Canadian banks) charge that. And in the past they did not use Visa or Mastercard for clearing, but now some do I think, but the minimum is 2. 5%. Anyway.

So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house.

All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2878571]I withdrew on Dec 2nd mutiple times and they didn't charge the fee, then on Dec 7th they did. I always had limit of 400 k in Davivienda for some reason, so 15 k is expensive for that now.

Colpatria used to be free but is 18.5 k for up to 900 k, since like half a year ago.

Banco de Bogota reportedly up to 1500 k for 18.5 k fee, but I didn't try personally.

Banco de Pichincha had no fee but they closed up the branch in centro, the is another ATM and branch in Poblado apparently but a bit is too far away for me to travel just for that.

Caja Social gives me up to 300 k option, no fee, but unspecified error when withdrawing on both Visa and Mastercard, so it doesn't work.

BBVA 600 k for around 20 mil fee if I remember correctly.

So at the moment for me Servibanca comes as the cheapest and most convenient with up to 2000 k withdrawal for 22.5 k fee (and it works).[/QUOTE]OK so we are having very different results in respect to limits and fees. This ID the breakdown for me using mastercard from Capital One.

Davivienda 2'000'000 - never used to be a fee (possibly a hidden 15 k now).

BBVA 300'000 - no fee until March of 2023 (18 k fee since March 2023).

Caja Social - 300'000 - no fee whatsoever and does work.

Colpatria / Scotiabank. Has never worked for me.

Banco de Bogota. Rarely used I don't remember limit. I think 18 k fee.

Banco de Pinchicha. Never used it.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2878574]So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house. All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.[/QUOTE]I have both Schwab and E-Trade. E-Trade the refund of the fee is instant and shown separately. Schwab, neither the withdrawal nor the refund show up until the next business day but again is shown separately. This has been true no matter what country I'm in. Others say they don't get their Schwab fees refunded until the end of the month; these people may have a slightly different type of account? IDK.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2878574]In all of these discussions it seems like people are claiming that they get the mid-market rate somehow, whether it was from closing 2 business days back or whatever. Through the Visa or Mastercard clearing systems. What about the currency conversion cost? Visa and Mastercard supposedly charge 1%. So people say that gets refunded by Shwab or whoever, but I don't get how you can look at your bank statement and not see that?

In my case it is 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent and my bank (and all other Canadian banks) charge that. And in the past they did not use Visa or Mastercard for clearing, but now some do I think, but the minimum is 2. 5%. Anyway.

So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house.

All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.[/QUOTE]There is no currency conversion costs. The amount is charged to your card in COP but when you check your app to see transactions it will show the amount in USD.

When you do the math and take the amount you withdrew in COP and divide it by the amount your app shows for the transaction in USD then that will give you a number around 4000 and you can then compare that number to what Google says the exchange rate is (mid-market rate).

Used to always be spot on (within 50 COP) of what Google stated.

Now I'm not so sure after reading FunLover's report and my latest experience with Davivienda where I felt like they were stealing 10 mil pesos from me according to what I should have been able to pull out.

And it may sound like complaining about 10 mil or 15 mil is stupid but these days everything is getting more expensive and we've been constantly getting less and less pesos for our dollars. When I first moved into my apartment and was buying my furniture and appliances I was getting 5,000 COP per dollar; now I'm fighting for 4,000 per dollar.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2878574]In all of these discussions it seems like people are claiming that they get the mid-market rate somehow, whether it was from closing 2 business days back or whatever. Through the Visa or Mastercard clearing systems. What about the currency conversion cost? Visa and Mastercard supposedly charge 1%. So people say that gets refunded by Shwab or whoever, but I don't get how you can look at your bank statement and not see that?

In my case it is 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent and my bank (and all other Canadian banks) charge that. And in the past they did not use Visa or Mastercard for clearing, but now some do I think, but the minimum is 2. 5%. Anyway.

So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house.

All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.[/QUOTE]I actually do get the mid-market rate with my Schwab card and with my Capital One credit cards. Sometimes a little bit less, sometimes even better than mid market, but always within 1% or so, and it tracks very closely in all cases. I've been watching it for years now.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2878580]I have both Schwab and E-Trade. E-Trade the refund of the fee is instant and shown separately. Schwab, neither the withdrawal nor the refund show up until the next business day but again is shown separately. This has been true no matter what country I'm in. Others say they don't get their Schwab fees refunded until the end of the month; these people may have a slightly different type of account? IDK.[/QUOTE]Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly. After making a withdrawal, it shows in my account by the time I get back to my apartment. Until Friday, I hadn't made a withdrawal that charged a fee for years. I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.

I've had a Schwab checking account tied to a brokerage account for probably ten years. I don't keep any money in the brokerage account.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878684]Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly. After making a withdrawal, it shows in my account by the time I get back to my apartment. Until Friday, I hadn't made a withdrawal that charged a fee for years. I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.

I've had a Schwab checking account tied to a brokerage account for probably ten years. I don't keep any money in the brokerage account.[/QUOTE]I've had mine for more like 25 years and I do have mid-five figures in the brokerage account. E-Trade, BTW, does charge (me) a 1% foreign transaction fee, and they do this even in Panamá where the USD is used. So, I use Schwab when traveling and E-Trade at home, since I like seeing the transaction instantly. Having both is not a bad idea IMO.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878684]Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly.[/QUOTE]The money is subtracted from your account immediately. What might confuse some people is that sometimes the transaction doesn't show up in the history buffer immediately, but your "balance available" will be subtracted instantaneously. No way Schwab will allow us to "double dip".

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878684]I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.[/QUOTE]The refund is given to you at the end of the month.

The refund fee is given in a separate lump sum. That irritates me. Since it's given in a lump sum, you don't know which ATM charges, and the amount. Takes too much work for me if I want to calculate.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2878749]The money is subtracted from your account immediately. What might confuse some people is that sometimes the transaction doesn't show up in the history buffer immediately, but your "balance available" will be subtracted instantaneously.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's true.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2878684]Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly. After making a withdrawal, it shows in my account by the time I get back to my apartment. Until Friday, I hadn't made a withdrawal that charged a fee for years. I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.

I've had a Schwab checking account tied to a brokerage account for probably ten years. I don't keep any money in the brokerage account.[/QUOTE]FunLuvr you were absolutely correct bro. My apologies for doubting you. It is in fact true that Davivienda is now charging a hidden fee of 15 mil without asking us to decline or accept it. I did some digging around and found this showing the transaction amount to and ATM fee (see the attached screen shots). One is from November without any fee and one of from December showing the fee.

Cargo de ATM $3.72 (15 mil COP) as of December 2023.

I had an interview with a passport bro about the current batch of guys who are going to Colombia.

[URL]https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=zHMKj1cAclEGDuiT[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2880902]I had an interview with a passport bro about the current batch of guys who are going to Colombia.

[URL]https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=zHMKj1cAclEGDuiT[/URL][/QUOTE]Great interview Doom. So the passport bros know that they are a problem. That is good. Recognizing the problem is the first step to correcting it.

I have an Ecuador question for you bro. Are the street girls working in Salinas / La dieciocho are they mainly ecuatoriana women or are they Venezolanas?

-Gabacho.

The ATMs of Davivienda are having a (reported and known) problem with international cards. Anyone know of a good alternative, meaning either high withdrawal limit or low charges?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2886452]The ATMs of Davivienda are having a (reported and known) problem with international cards. Anyone know of a good alternative, meaning either high withdrawal limit or low charges?[/QUOTE]I remember bsngo cheto mentioned that he uses Servibanca and it also has a 2 million COP withdrawal limit. Not sure what the fee is though.

How long is this problem expected to last?

Hello.

I remember last time I travel to Colombia 2022, I had someone at airport ask me about filling out a form before arriving in Colombia. I don't know if that still the case.

[QUOTE=Butch145;2886494]Hello.

I remember last time I travel to Colombia 2022, I had someone at airport ask me about filling out a form before arriving in Colombia. I don't know if that still the case.[/QUOTE]Search Colombia checkmig. It's free so don't fall for a scam service site that has you pay a fee, just use the government site. Once completed it's in their computer system and likely it'll never be mentioned again. Same process when you leave Colombia.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2886452]The ATMs of Davivienda are having a (reported and known) problem with international cards. Anyone know of a good alternative, meaning either high withdrawal limit or low charges?[/QUOTE]I just made a withdrawal at Davivienda this morning and it worked fine.

All of the above and some cubanas!

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2880915]Great interview Doom. So the passport bros know that they are a problem. That is good. Recognizing the problem is the first step to correcting it.

I have an Ecuador question for you bro. Are the street girls working in Salinas / La dieciocho are they mainly ecuatoriana women or are they Venezolanas?

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I'm I've been living in Medellin for the past 4 months and my spanish is decent. I came here looking for a girlfriend. Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls and I joined salsa clubs, roller skating clubs and went to language exchanges yet it seems like in Medellin many (not all) local normal non working girls look down on dating foreigner guys, but when I first went to Medellin in 2017, so many local girls wanted to know who I was, where I was coming from and had so many questions about why I am in Colombia.

Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her. My friend says Santa Marta or Cali would be where I can get the attention I got in medellin in 2017. What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2886916] I've been living in Medellin for the past 4 months and my spanish is decent. I came here looking for a girlfriend. Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls [/QUOTE]I have the same experience.

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2886916]Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her.[/QUOTE]Bogota, Cali, and Barranquilla for me.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2886688]I just made a withdrawal at Davivienda this morning and it worked fine.[/QUOTE]Yeah I just ried today following your comment and it looks like issue over. Thanks for the servibanco suggestion too.

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2886916]Hi,

I'm I've been living in Medellin for the past 4 months and my spanish is decent. I came here looking for a girlfriend. Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls and I joined salsa clubs, roller skating clubs and went to language exchanges yet it seems like in Medellin many (not all) local normal non working girls look down on dating foreigner guys, but when I first went to Medellin in 2017, so many local girls wanted to know who I was, where I was coming from and had so many questions about why I am in Colombia.

Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her. My friend says Santa Marta or Cali would be where I can get the attention I got in medellin in 2017. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I made a post a while back about this. Most attractive girls in Medellin are hookers and the ones that aren't don't want to be seen with an American because her peers will think she is a ho. Good luck finding a regular girl in Colombia. The place is one big brothel like Rio. A hooker there told me 80% of girls there are hookers. Pretty soon with marriage rates collapsing in America all attractive girls here will be hos.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2887010]Good luck finding a regular girl in Colombia. The place is one big brothel like Rio. A hooker there told me 80% of girls there are hookers.[/QUOTE]You believe that shit until you start to meet and mix with normal people. That is just like hanging out with a junkie and them saying 80% of the people in the country are users. Ridiculous.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2880902]I had an interview with a passport bro about the current batch of guys who are going to Colombia.

[URL]https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=zHMKj1cAclEGDuiT[/URL][/QUOTE]But your last question is kind of misleading for the subject matter. Everyone knows that the people are traveling to fuck with hookers. When someone is traveling to these places having learned the language, not hanging out on "the strip," and looking for a relationship with a person who is not a hooker then is the time to ask about what you can find (eg. Submissiveness and the likes). Until then all that needs to be asked is how much is it going to cost for you to stay this long and do this, that, and the other. I can not believe guys are still fooling themselves into believing hookers are not hookers.

It was the same thing with that old Rio interview that was done years ago. These are hookers that go to the club to find men for money every night. These are not people that have been to school and are working a 9 to 5 job everyday.

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2886916]Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls and I joined salsa clubs, roller skating clubs and went to language exchanges yet it seems like in Medellin many (not all) local normal non working girls look down on dating foreigner guys, but when I first went to Medellin in 2017, so many local girls wanted to know who I was, where I was coming from and had so many questions about why I am in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I think that is the price of so many mongers in Medellin. If a woman is seen with a gringo in Medellin, she looks like a hooker.

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2886916]Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her. My friend says Santa Marta or Cali would be where I can get the attention I got in medellin in 2017. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Spinner types are tough to find in Cali. If you like black women or women with curves, it is great. I think Bogota is best. Barranquilla would be second for me. If you want to dive deeper, I would look at the cities few go to in the coffee triangle: Armenia, Manizales, and Pereira. My gal just got back from visiting a GF of hers in Pereira, and she had a good time seeing the sites. There was more to do there than I imagined.

For as often as I am in Cartagena, I rarely see women who are head turners. It happens just not like in Medellin. The places where I have seen them is North of Bogota. When I have left Bogota, it was first through Chia and then Zipaquira where the salt castle is. There are lots of tourists there so there might be a stigma to meeting the women there. Ubate is the first town where you feel like you have left Bogota and they have arepas to die for there.

It is the cities further down the road: Susa, Simijaca, Chiquinquira, and Villa De Leyva that I was like holy fuck. The town squares are literally filled with beauty after beauty. Granted, the women often look similar: their skin is naturally tanned like so many Caucasian women strive to be, high cheek bones, thinner posteriors than the Paisas, and trim waists. Outside of a few in Villa De Leyva, you will not see tourists.

When in Barranquilla, I stayed at a hotel and in the lobby saw women glammed up and dressed to the nines meeting their dates for dinner. Maybe it was just dumb luck, I saw at least half a dozen stunners.

In the other cities I mentioned, the women were less sophisticated and more pure. They would be wearing cut off t-shirts showing rock hard abs and tight jeans with that special wiggle. The churches seemed to dominate the social scenes so I would guess volunteering or showing up at their functions, services, and festivals would be the way to meet the ladies there. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2887116]I think that is the price of so many mongers in Medellin. If a woman is seen with a gringo in Medellin, she looks like a hooker.

Spinner types are tough to find in Cali. If you like black women or women with curves, it is great. I think Bogota is best. Barranquilla would be second for me. If you want to dive deeper, I would look at the cities few go to in the coffee triangle: Armenia, Manizales, and Pereira. My gal just got back from visiting a GF of hers in Pereira, and she had a good time seeing the sites. There was more to do there than I imagined.

For as often as I am in Cartagena, I rarely see women who are head turners. It happens just not like in Medellin. The places where I have seen them is North of Bogota. When I have left Bogota, it was first through Chia and then Zipaquira where the salt castle is. There are lots of tourists there so there might be a stigma to meeting the women there. Ubate is the first town where you feel like you have left Bogota and they have arepas to die for there.

It is the cities further down the road: Susa, Simijaca, Chiquinquira, and Villa De Leyva that I was like holy fuck. The town squares are literally filled with beauty after beauty. Granted, the women often look similar: their skin is naturally tanned like so many Caucasian women strive to be, high cheek bones, thinner posteriors than the Paisas, and trim waists. Outside of a few in Villa De Leyva, you will not see tourists.

When in Barranquilla, I stayed at a hotel and in the lobby saw women glammed up and dressed to the nines meeting their dates for dinner. Maybe it was just dumb luck, I saw at least half a dozen stunners.

In the other cities I mentioned, the women were less sophisticated and more pure. They would be wearing cut off t-shirts showing rock hard abs and tight jeans with that special wiggle. The churches seemed to dominate the social scenes so I would guess volunteering or showing up at their functions, services, and festivals would be the way to meet the ladies there. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]I want to discover the areas north of Bogota. A city called Tunja comes to mind. A lot of indigenous people up there in the mountains with a cooler climate.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2886486]I remember bsngo cheto mentioned that he uses Servibanca and it also has a 2 million COP withdrawal limit. Not sure what the fee is though.

How long is this problem expected to last?[/QUOTE]Fee is 22500.

Gentlemen, I'm planning on flying into Colombia from Mexico. My passport is from the US. Other than Check Mig, are there any other requirements that we don't need when flying in from the US?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2889135]Gentlemen, I'm planning on flying into Colombia from Mexico. My passport is from the US. Other than Check Mig, are there any other requirements that we don't need when flying in from the US?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I always fly in from Mexico as it's way cheaper that way. You just have to have your passport and check mig and give your valid FMM card to the airline people at the gate (you'll get a new one for 180 days for free when you return). I think if you're going through Cancun they don't do the FMM there anymore so you don't even have to worry about it.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2889260]I always fly in from Mexico as it's way cheaper that way. You just have to have your passport and check mig and give your valid FMM card to the airline people at the gate (you'll get a new one for 180 days for free when you return). I think if you're going through Cancun they don't do the FMM there anymore so you don't even have to worry about it.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the info. Long story short, I might not have an FMM. I'll be entering Tijuana as a pedestrian and flying out of TIJ. Half of the time I walk across, they don't issue an FMM and just wave me through. But, I've never flown out of Tijuana before. So I'll just mention that to the migration official and hope it doesn't cost me $35. LOL.

So those sneaky bastards at Davivienda are indeed charging an undisclosed $15 k mil fee but the good news is Schwab told me they can see the fee and it will be refunded like any other fee.

Can withdraw $1 millóand vs only about $600 k from Bancolombia. The fee for the latter is a ridiculous $27 mil almost. I don't even understand how Schwab affords to reimburse all the fees but I guess they figure they make more in managing your investments.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2889322]Appreciate the info. Long story short, I might not have an FMM. I'll be entering Tijuana as a pedestrian and flying out of TIJ. Half of the time I walk across, they don't issue an FMM and just wave me through. But, I've never flown out of Tijuana before. So I'll just mention that to the migration official and hope it doesn't cost me $35. LOL.[/QUOTE]There's a kiosk inside the Tijuana airport (or atleast there used to be) on the right had side (when you walk in from the street) where you can get the FMM, and yes I believe it costs about $30 or $35 usd for the 180 day one. The 7 day one you get for free at the border will not work for boarding an international flight out of Mexico.

Now if you were just flying domestically within Mexico like Tijuana to CDMX or Tijuana to Cancun, etc. I've never ever been asked for the FMM or even my passport I've been able to fly all over Mexico with just a California ID card. But when you go to board the flight that leaves Mexico and lands in BOG or MDE in my experience they will deny you boarding unless you have a valid FMM. This may have changed though as I know in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport which acts as the FMM but I'm not sure if that's now at every airport or just at cancun.

Also one time I was denied boarding on a wingo flight from cancun to Bogota because my FMM had a car stamp instead of an airplane stamp (means it was issued at a land port of entry not an international airport). The wingo lady told me she couldn't accept it because of the car stamp and that I had to go to the INM office and get another stamp on the back side then she could accept it.

So literally like 20 mins before boarding I had to run through the cancun T2 airport all the way back thru the security checkpoint to the INM office there behind that guacamole restaurant where the bathrooms and ATMs are and they gave me the stamp on the back of the FMM card which is an exit stamp then I had to go back through security and back to the gate and I literally ran there all out of breath but I made it and the lady then accepted my FMM and boarding had already started so I just walked onto the plane at the at point.

I would advise you to pay the $35 and buy the FMM at the Tijuana airport or at the border crossing and hold onto it along with the separate receipt showing you paid for it. And when you get to the final airport where you will be boarding your flight to Colombia go up to the counter where you check your luggage and ask them if you need the exit stamp on the back or not (and go get that if you need it) then proceed through security and to your gate.

And if you didn't need the FMM at all I guess you're out $35 bucks but that's alot better than missing your flight if you did need it.

Actually you know what, now that I think about it, this last time I came through in August of last year, I had a brand new passport as I had just renewed in July and my FMM stamp was in the old passport from the last time I came back and I was just waived into Mexico like how you mentioned. And when I boarded in cancun on a flight to Medellin I was not asked for the FMM and neither did they ask about my Mexico entry stamp which I didn't have in the new passport (it was literally blank) but I did have the old passport with the 2 holes punched in it with a valid FMM stamp from cancun still within the 180 days in case if I needed to show it but they never asked me for it. They just let me board the flight with the blank passport. So you may not need it. I'd still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it though, so your move.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2889403]So those sneaky bastards at Davivienda are indeed charging an undisclosed $15 k mil fee but the good news is Schwab told me they can see the fee and it will be refunded like any other fee.

Can withdraw $1 milland vs only about $600 k from Bancolombia. The fee for the latter is a ridiculous $27 mil almost. I don't even understand how Schwab affords to reimburse all the fees but I guess they figure they make more in managing your investments.[/QUOTE]What gets me is that they are not disclosing it on the ATM screen and asking us to accept or decline it like every other bank does. Also if you press yes to get a receipt on that printed receipt it shows "commission $0.00" which is an outright lie.

What if they were to decide to just raise the fee to say $50 mil COP out of the blue one day, like how would we even know until after we complete a withdrawal and then look at our accounts to see how much we were charged.

Also the withdrawal limit is $2 Million COP making the 15 mil fee like 0. 75% of the total withdrawal amount which is still the lowest fee of all the banks (except for maybe pinchicha but I don't know where that bank is) in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2889460] in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport [/QUOTE]Just a heads up for those who go to México: the 180 days is no longer automatic and it's at the discretion of the immigration officer.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2889460]There's a kiosk inside the Tijuana airport (or atleast there used to be) on the right had side (when you walk in from the street) where you can get the FMM, and yes I believe it costs about $30 or $35 usd for the 180 day one. The 7 day one you get for free at the border will not work for boarding an international flight out of Mexico.

Now if you were just flying domestically within Mexico like Tijuana to CDMX or Tijuana to Cancun, etc. I've never ever been asked for the FMM or even my passport I've been able to fly all over Mexico with just a California ID card. But when you go to board the flight that leaves Mexico and lands in BOG or MDE in my experience they will deny you boarding unless you have a valid FMM. This may have changed though as I know in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport which acts as the FMM but I'm not sure if that's now at every airport or just at cancun.

Also one time I was denied boarding on a wingo flight from cancun to Bogota because my FMM had a car stamp instead of an airplane stamp (means it was issued at a land port of entry not an international airport). The wingo lady told me she couldn't accept it because of the car stamp and that I had to go to the INM office and get another stamp on the back side then she could accept it.

So literally like 20 mins before boarding I had to run through the cancun T2 airport all the way back thru the security checkpoint to the INM office there behind that guacamole restaurant where the bathrooms and ATMs are and they gave me the stamp on the back of the FMM card which is an exit stamp then I had to go back through security and back to the gate and I literally ran there all out of breath but I made it and the lady then accepted my FMM and boarding had already started so I just walked onto the plane at the at point.

I would advise you to pay the $35 and buy the FMM at the Tijuana airport or at the border crossing and hold onto it along with the separate receipt showing you paid for it. And when you get to the final airport where you will be boarding your flight to Colombia go up to the counter where you check your luggage and ask them if you need the exit stamp on the back or not (and go get that if you need it) then proceed through security and to your gate.

And if you didn't need the FMM at all I guess you're out $35 bucks but that's alot better than missing your flight if you did need it.

Actually you know what, now that I think about it, this last time I came through in August of last year, I had a brand new passport as I had just renewed in July and my FMM stamp was in the old passport from the last time I came back and I was just waived into Mexico like how you mentioned. And when I boarded in cancun on a flight to Medellin I was not asked for the FMM and neither did they ask about my Mexico entry stamp which I didn't have in the new passport (it was literally blank) but I did have the old passport with the 2 holes punched in it with a valid FMM stamp from cancun still within the 180 days in case if I needed to show it but they never asked me for it. They just let me board the flight with the blank passport. So you may not need it. I'd still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it though, so your move.[/QUOTE]Again, I appreciate all of the information. I decided to go to Tijuana to make my upcoming trip a 2-city party. I'll plan on getting the FMM in Tijuana. I appreciate you sharing your experience.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2889491]Just a heads up for those who go to Mxico: the 180 days is no longer automatic and it's at the discretion of the immigration officer.[/QUOTE]It's Mexico. It's always at the officer's discretion. LOL This has been an issue for years now. Mexican immigration officers took advantage of the covid years. During those years, they were able to get away with their scam because technically, tourism was not a legal reason to enter. However, that's no longer the case and if I was traveling into Mexico for a 5-day stay, I'd tell the immigration officer pushing the 180 day fee to go get his supervisor. The laws are no longer on their side to force us to spend the $35.

This was such a hot topic on the Tijuana boards for years. Only once did I buy the 180 day FMM, and that was by choice. I was going there so frequently, it was nice to have the FMM so I could just walk in the Mexican line.

I am going to look at airfare again though. I still think the cost and timing of flying to MDE is better from Mexico than San Diego or LA.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2889549]
I am going to look at airfare again though. I still think the cost and timing of flying to MDE is better from Mexico than San Diego or LA.[/QUOTE]The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.

If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.

The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).

Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2889766]The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.

If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.

The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).

Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.[/QUOTE]Although I live in San Diego and it may be cheaper to fly through Mexico, I prefer to go through another country from sandiego or Lax; I had problems with the Mexican immigration sevices in the past that delayed my international flights.

I like a 2 days sto over in Panama city for instance.

I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2891277]I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing![/QUOTE]So you don't have to pay it?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2891277]I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing![/QUOTE]You should have just applied for the Permiso para Prorrogar permanencia they give you an extra 90 days. I came this time in August and I would have had to leave in Nov but I applied for the prorrogar in October and had to pay 125 mil or something like that at Banco de Occidente and then like 2 days later I got the permit in my email showing that I can stay until later in February.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2891277]I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing![/QUOTE]Also another thing you could have done would have been to registered for Spanish classes at some cheap school and then applied for a student visa before your 90 days had expired. That one is more expensive than the prorrogar but it is for like 1 or 2 years depending on how long you're enrolled in the Spanish classes.

Also the digital nomad visa would have worked too if you can prove that you have at least $650 usd of monthly income from a remote job.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2891277]I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing![/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure you won't be missed.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2891277]I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing![/QUOTE]So you knew that overstaying would cost you but you did it again. I guess the laws and rules shouldn't apply to you. Typical Ugly American attitude. Sounds similar to most politicians attitudes. I worked for a government and it was incredible to see that they would pass ordinances but not want to follow them themselves. The rules were for everyone else. Like someone else said, you won't be missed. I guess you don't love it there anymore.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2891277]I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466)[/QUOTE]Yep they increased the fines sometime ago.

[URL]https://expatgroup.co/english/news/fines-migracion-colombia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2889766]The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.

If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.

The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).

Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.[/QUOTE]I had a flight booked from SD to MDE on American for $189 with a 4 hour layover in Miami. One way ticket.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2891583]I had a flight booked from SD to MDE on American for $189 with a 4 hour layover in Miami. One way ticket.[/QUOTE]That's a super good deal. Did you buy it like a month in advance or something?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2891277]. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing![/QUOTE]If you like that, how about your tax dollars going to pay $5000 per month to migrants in NY! F the homeless veterans crazy from Agent Orange.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2892129]If you like that, how about your tax dollars going to pay $5000 per month to migrants in NY! F the homeless veterans crazy from Agent Orange.[/QUOTE]Yet nobody complains about the money that goes to chicks that have a bunch of illegitimate kids, Ukraine, or Israel. How is Brandon going to tell them to stop fighting then the next day give them money for more weapons?

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2891516]I worked for a government and it was incredible to see that they would pass ordinances but not want to follow them themselves. The rules were for everyone else.[/QUOTE]Girl I went to school with was responsible for passing a state law that you can not have a cell phone in your hand while driving. Guess who got caught by a trooper with a cell phone in their hand while driving a couple of months ago?

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2892129]If you like that, how about your tax dollars going to pay $5000 per month to migrants in NY! F the homeless veterans crazy from Agent Orange.[/QUOTE]Yea I just read an article about how they are now finding Venezuelan gang members from tren de aragua in El Paso, TX. And Biden is giving them free cell phones and gift cards loaded with money and flying them to NYC, Chicago, and Miami.

There was also another article about Venezuelan immigrants attacking police officers in New York recently. And I know numerous Venezolanas who made it to the US and are prostituting when they get there. Biden has made a mockery of the US immigration system.

I was calling this shit 6 months to a year ago and no one wanted to believe me. The only person who can fix this mess is Donald Trump.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2891629]That's a super good deal. Did you buy it like a month in advance or something?[/QUOTE]It was almost exactly a month in advance. I've since changed it since I cut Tijuana out of this trip. But I was shocked. I know I probably just opened the floodgates for our SoCal friends to infiltrate MDE. LOL But from what I was looking at, it looked like many of the flights were in that price range. As you point out, maybe a month out is the sweet spot.

1st thanks to all the users of this stie / forum. This will be my third MDE trip and all the posts, advice etc here have made the trips so much less stressful and more enjoyable.

Any recommended masseuses / massage services? (FS preferred but if massage is good not needed.).

Last 2 trips I found some massages off milerotico but they were so so. FS which was nice but the girls could have been better. The airbnb next to us had some AMAZING girls leaving but didn't get their info. I know better is to be had.

This trip like my previous are work trips (tradeshow in MDE) so somewhat busy, just trying to set some things up when we land.

Also best site for girls? Lacelestina has fallen off I think and although our best luck is getting bar girls or girls from Park Llearas club, its nice to have some fun a phonecall away.

Staying at Paris by Lleras Park so close to the fun and guest are no issue as we have security.

Lastly any chefs? Found some online but super expenive. Like $100's per meal. Last two time we just ate out but would be nice to have some breakfast at the suite.

TIA.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2891516]So you knew that overstaying would cost you but you did it again. I guess the laws and rules shouldn't apply to you. Typical Ugly American attitude. [/QUOTE]You missed the point stupid. I knew there would be a penalty. I just was not expecting it to be 4 times higher the second time. Just thought others would like to know.

I stayed 3 months and did another 3 month online extension. Then stayed 3 weeks past the 6 months allowed. I looked into the Spanish schools but it felt like work. 2 hours everyday, the cost, and all the work to enroll.

You are always crying about Americans. You really have a deep jealously of us.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2892577]You missed the point stupid. I knew there would be a penalty. I just was not expecting it to be 4 times higher the second time. Just thought others would like to know.

I stayed 3 months and did another 3 month online extension. Then stayed 3 weeks past the 6 months allowed. I looked into the Spanish schools but it felt like work. 2 hours everyday, the cost, and all the work to enroll.

You are always crying about Americans. You really have a deep jealously of us.[/QUOTE]I think it's fair to assume that the fees would have been the same as the first time or maybe just slightly higher but not 4 times more. It seems Colombia is becoming more of a ripoff than it used to be, whether from Banks like Davivienda and BBVA charging extra ATM fees or the government quadruplying their fees without notice, sounds like Colombia itself is just looking for ways to steal money.

For those of you who say Medellin isn't safe (I wouldn't know because I've never gone).

List the specific places that you believe are safer and are easy to pick up girls of quality. Also list their prices.

I just want to spend 20 to 80/100 max USD per girl for GFE and or BBFS.

So far, I've heard about Thailand. Don't know much about any other place.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2893206]For those of you who say Medellin isn't safe (I wouldn't know because I've never gone).

List the specific places that you believe are safer and are easy to pick up girls of quality. Also list their prices.

I just want to spend 20 to 80/100 max USD per girl for GFE and or BBFS.

So far, I've heard about Thailand. Don't know much about any other place.[/QUOTE]I have not been anyplace better for that than in the Philippines. It's the default, and prices are relatively low compared to mongering in other parts of the world. If you need bareback and like Asian girls, then the PI is in the place to be if you ask me!

Well right now, it's very easy to bareback girls everywhere. I just come back from Thailand Pattaya, and I did BBFS everyday! I was in Colombia few months ago in Medellin and I bareback girls 18 to 25 very easily. Just need to pay extra. But they're all OK. Only 1 didn't want.

In Cambodia and Philippines, they all do bareback!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2893413]I have not been anyplace better for that than in the Philippines. It's the default, and prices are relatively low compared to mongering in other parts of the world. If you need bareback and like Asian girls, then the PI is in the place to be if you ask me![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2893668]Well right now, it's very easy to bareback girls everywhere. I just come back from Thailand Pattaya, and I did BBFS everyday! I was in Colombia few months ago in Medellin and I bareback girls 18 to 25 very easily. Just need to pay extra. But they're all OK. Only 1 didn't want.

In Cambodia and Philippines, they all do bareback![/QUOTE]I agree with, this has been my experience so far as well.

[QUOTE=AddisDude;2894387]I agree with, this has been my experience so far as well.[/QUOTE]I don't think bareback is such a big deal these days. It's not like in the 90's where you got HIV and 2 or 3 years later you died.

Now a days even if you do get HIV you just have to take some pills or even injections you can get once every 2 or 3 months and you still live to be 80 years old. You can't even watch TV in the US without getting bombarded by all these commercials for drugs like Biktarvy and Cabenuva. The 20's probably has more in common with the 60's than it does with the 80's /90's in regard to unprotected sex.

And maybe with the exception of herpes, most other STDs are curable or have vaccines.

I've been traveling around Asia and Kenya, and I have a particular taste for girls with a natural, unshaven Bush. Is this common or even available in Colombia? I'm planning on visiting there next month.

RG.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2894403]I've been traveling around Asia and Kenya, and I have a particular taste for girls with a natural, unshaven Bush. Is this common or even available in Colombia? I'm planning on visiting there next month.

RG.[/QUOTE]I've never seen one there.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2894575]I've never seen one there.[/QUOTE]Me neither. Might need ask one the favorites to grow it for you, if you're staying for longer.

Other than Google Fi.

[URL]https://www.att.com/plans/unlimited-data-plans/roam-latin-america/[/URL]

Google had this weird deal where they were charging for me whatsapp calls, and you could never could get ahold of anyone there. I liked their service but customer support was not very good and outside of photos, pixel phones have gone downhill. I have not a big AT&T fan so so far so good. If you have a woman in Colombia and travel with her, this is a great plan for her.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2894403]I've been traveling around Asia and Kenya, and I have a particular taste for girls with a natural, unshaven Bush. Is this common or even available in Colombia? I'm planning on visiting there next month.

RG.[/QUOTE]Weird. I just got back from Kenya. The chicks I was with had minimal public hair. It did not appear they had shaved, but just like it does not grow there, the same as most of their heads. I think the hairy genes come from Europe, not Africa. There does not have to be a lot of it in order for it to be naturally unshaven.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2893413]I have not been anyplace better for that than in the Philippines. It's the default, and prices are relatively low compared to mongering in other parts of the world. If you need bareback and like Asian girls, then the PI is in the place to be if you ask me![/QUOTE]Hmmm, can't say I agree with that because the Phils is the only country I got drip, drip, drip-twice! So, send in your soldier at your own risk without his helmet.

Anyone here gotten dental work done here and have recommendations of orthodontics that speak english? Thinking it might be worth it to travel here for dental and grab a bite to eat of Colombian if you know what I mean afterwards every few months due to checkups. Specifically looking for braces, invisalign, veneers. Basic smile makeover.

Preferably in the Medellin area since the women are said to be better, however Bogota or Cartagena may be cheaper in flights.

First, my ultimate goal is to have as many true threesomes as possible. My fetish is girls being super lesbian before I get in the middle. Where in Colombia are the hotter girls (no streetwalking 5's or 6's. Looks matter for me) who tend to be bi? From what I gathered searching, it looks like Medellin is that spot. I don't mind what color the girls are. They just got to be 8 or higher. Which city likely has that, and in that city which club likely has that?

Second, my second goal is to do true threesomes with either beautiful bi negras (black girls) or mulatas (mixed girls). I don't mind doing it with non-negras. But I love me some South American chocolate. Where in Colombia can I find such beautiful negras? It seems like Cali would be it. But perhaps the coast is better? Can anyone with experience tell us?

I speak perfect Spanish so once I know where to go, I can get around. Anything I learn if I go, I will report here.

Hello,

I must say you are really experienced and I went through your SA response, which was detailed and really good. Can you please provide me with a few tips as I am planning to use SA and want to hook up with young, stunning girls and want to try bareback. Can you please provide a few information like how to kick off conversation, do I need to negotiate or talk about money in some point of conversation or what?

What are the red flags?

Thank you so much for your time.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2420852]I am in Medellin. I was just in Bogota and Barranquilla. I had a different girl every night in BAQ and found one that I will bang when I am there who is SB material and one keeper as purely sexual. I thought nowhere could top Bogota with SA but MDE has done so. First night here, I have had three dates, the most I have ever had at one time. Tomorrow, I am up to 4, and my inbox is flooded.

I don't get the hanging out all day. I tell them that I will meet them food or drink at my hotel and tell them to come upstairs. I was 3 for 3 on that tonight and in BAQ. I don't do all that shopping shit with any SA girl unless they are SB or GF material.

No, no, no! You never mention money. If a girl insists on, then she is a hooker. If you want to bang her and move on, feel free to do so, but you NEVER mention price unless they bring it up. Yes, you paste a simple message. Hi, how are you? I am in Medellin and would like to meet you, but that is it. Don't put price in the intro.

Uthred, I appreciate you doing the SA review, but you have to get what SA is. If you just want to fuck, go see the hookers. The best part of SA is for the college girl or professional with some money problems who is dipping her toe into the hooker pool but does not want to go all the way in. Sure, some will go all the way, but it is the place to go if you want to find the highest quality woman who provides.

In BAQ, it was sweet as could be with a 22 year old who wouldn't get with me the first night. She was stunning, long legs, thin waist, but didn't really show all that she had. But we repeated another night, and she said "Look, it has been eight months since I have had sex", as she s. L. o. W. l. Why put me inside of her. She was tight as hell, and the pussy was Clorox clean. I can't tell you what it feels like to have some 22 year old knockout coed who hasn't had it in months rocking on top of your dick, screaming with her many orgasms, and when she is done and I am done, puts her head in your arms like a long lost lover. She has already texted me multiple times saying that she misses me.

After that first night, she sent me a text saying, "I am so wet. I can't wait for you to fuck me tomorrow. ".

The other new BAQ chick I had was completely compliant. Five times, I said "Hey, I want you to suck my dick" and she did it. No question. Back massage. Anal. Bareback. She did it all. Her pussy was as clean as could be too, and she worked out five times per week. She even spent the night. All told I paid her 700 k for two full nights. Amazing.

Here in MDE, the response is so overwhelming I am not sure if I am going to see everyone I want to. I went for one girl who had been on the site for six days, and I was her first date. She was tall, thin, loose fitting dress, and I could not tell what her body was like. The clothes came off and shit, was it hot! Nice boobs. Tight body. Long legs. She just didn't know how to show it off. Again, she hadn't had sex for months, was an engineering student, and was totally compliant. BBBJ. Bareback. Pussy that smelled as clean as the wind. OMG, what a fuck! I gave her 200 k. Again, I gave her what I wanted to give her, not the other way around. I did two rounds with her and held off on shooting my load the second time because of what was to come.

The next one was another engineering student. Again, I am the first guy she has met on SA. About halfway through our drink, I am like, "You are smart as shit aren't you? You were top of your class in Bucaramanga (where she is from)", and she is "like Yeah, I was #1 in this school and this one. ". I got her upstairs and propositioned her. I told her I would pay her 50 k for the meet and her cab ride, but she was a no go on the sex the first night, but I was like, "Okay, we are doing it tomorrow". We are hanging out at the pool and this hot, super smart, engineering student who works three jobs will be riding me tomorrow. Yee HAA!! Again, I will set the price because none was mentioned.

Between BAQ and the first MDE girl, I was wore out and saw a third one. She was really cute in the face but had a belly. We had agreed on 50 k for the visit and 300 k if we did the deed, but between the BAQ women and my first SA girl, I wasn't paying 300 k for a girl who wasn't that hot and was hooker lite so I passed.

The first one starts at Oveido mall tomorrow at 10 AM and I will be seeing four more tomorrow. I hope that I can see them all.

Yes, SA is not cheap, but for me, it is the way to get the best pussy from the best women. If you just want to fuck, there is cheaper and easier out there for sure. You will send out at least 10 messages for every one you get back even in Colombia but when you get a keeper that is what makes it worth it.

I think the expense is more time than money, but I want to fuck someone who doesn't run for the door when we are done, who I like as a person, who I enjoy spending time with, and it is more than just about sex. Even the third date tonight, the hooker chick, was fun to talk to.

I am trying to set up a great fuck rotation of the highest quality in Colombia and so far I have one GF type in Bogota and one smoking hot fuck there, two in BAQ, and probably two in MDE in the first day!! Life is good.[/QUOTE]

I would recommend Cartagena.

It is not the Cheapest place to get laid.

But it could open your Eyes to the rest of the Country.

IMHO, CTG offers: sun, sin, wine, women and song. But the the kicker for me is the delicious ocean seafood. Hope you read up, and do your research. Buena suerte.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2906404]Go to Venezuela instead.[/QUOTE]Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernández to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2906514]Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernndez to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela.[/QUOTE]Too bad the US doesn't reciprocate and do the same thing that Venezuela did to Eyvin Hernández to all the venecos crossing illegally into Eagle Pass.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2906514]Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernndez to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela.[/QUOTE]Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernández to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela illegally.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2906515]Many of them, and also many business people in Colombia and Costa Rica, use an inverted theory of supply and demand. If supply stays the same and demand falls, then they have to charge more to make up for the loss of demand.[/QUOTE]LOL! These countries are unable to embrace capitalism.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2906615]Too bad the US doesn't reciprocate and do the same thing that Venezuela did to Eyvin Hernndez to all the venecos crossing illegally into Eagle Pass.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense. The poor immigrants that cross into the USA the Venezuelan government is going to care about? WTF?

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2906721]Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense. The poor immigrants that cross into the USA the Venezuelan government is going to care about? WTF?[/QUOTE]Illegally enter Venezuela and get wrongfully detained but a Venezuelan illegally enters the US and get free plane tickets to NYC or Miami, free hotel stays, and $500 prepaid debit cards LOL.

So the guy caught in the no tell motel in La Estrella with two very young girls is, I am willing to be green money, is Colombian. He has not so far been identified. The guy was caught because he got into a fight with the girls that was so loud the motel contacted the authorities. Punter 101 procedures call for handing over the money to make the girls go away. But that's for another post. The motel got shut down for the standard 10 day "time out. " The girls were picked up in San Diego. Truth be told, they are not an unusual demographic among those who cater to the San Diego night crawling punters. The incident took place at 2 am It's interesting to me how noticeably different this case is being treated in the news compared to the American guy who is now on Interpol's radar. The whole reason motel's like the place in La Estrella exists is for dates that would not be admitted in more mainstream settings. Anyway, this isn't especially useful information. It's more entertianment than anything else for our group.

That is different. Your previous posts suggested that the US hold Venezuelans illegals and demand money from the Venezuelan government. That makes no freakin sense.

And why would anyone want to enter Venezuela especially illegally? There has to be a motive there.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2906731]Illegally enter Venezuela and get wrongfully detained but a Venezuelan illegally enters the US and get free plane tickets to NYC or Miami, free hotel stays, and $500 prepaid debit cards LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2906731]Illegally enter Venezuela and get wrongfully detained but a Venezuelan illegally enters the US and get free plane tickets to NYC or Miami, free hotel stays, and $500 prepaid debit cards LOL.[/QUOTE]At the risk of starting a screaming match, I'm going to correct you.

If you illegally enter any country, and are detained, you haven't been wrongfully detained, because you entered the country illegally. Depending on the country, your detention could last for a few hours or a few years. Each country has the right to make their own laws and impose their own penalties.

The following information is 4 months old, but I received it directly from people who experienced it.

If you enter the United States illegally, for example by crossing the Rio Grande at Eagle Pass, Texas, and are detained by the US Customs and Border Control, you are placed in a detention center, where you will sit for 1 or more days, while a background check is ran. Except for your cell phone and identification, most of your belongings are thrown in a dumpster, including hairbrush, toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, almost everything except the clothes on your back. You also get to keep your money, provided you don't have too much. After a day or 2 you are released. Before being released, you must give a name, address and phone number of a responsible contact who is legally in the US, for example a citizen. The smart move is to immediately turn yourself in to immigration.

After release, there's a immigrant center run by a non-profit group which will give a meal and arrange for a $20 bus ride to the San Antonio Airport, provided you either have your own money to buy a ticket, or someone has bought you one. No shower facilities are provided at the detention center or immigrant center. You'll be getting on a plane after not bathing for 3 days, except for getting wet when you crossed the river. There is no free ticket, no free hotel stays, no $500 prepaid debit cards, you have to pay for your own bus ticket. There is only a requirement that you report to an immigration office within 2 months to arrange for an asylum hearing court date, where a federal judge will decide whether to grant you asylum, or send you back to your country of origin.

Because of a shortage of immigration judges, the wait for a hearing is 2 to 3 years. During that time you have no legal right to work, you receive no assistance of any kind from the federal government, although some states will allow you certain benefits. You are dependent on the charity of friends and finding whatever work you can, usually at a much lower pay, with zero benefits.

If you can find a job pimp (someone who provides a fake SSN and who gets paid by companies to provide undocumented labor) You'll be living in a crappy house, in a bad neighborhood, owned by the pimp, along with several other undocumented immigrants. Other than cheap mattresses thrown on the floor, or possibly on a couple of scavenged pallets, there's no furniture in the house. You will not have a bed to yourself. The rent and utilities will be just low enough to afford and it will be difficult to save enough money to improve your situation. The fake SSN grants you no benefits and it will only be accepted as identification by companies who are actively hiring undocumented immigrants to cut labor costs and avoid providing benefits.

All of the above is accurate for Colombians and I assume for all others from Central and South America. Perhaps when a Venezuelan arrives, a limousine shows up and whisks them off to a luxury suite where they will be granted their every wish and have their feet personally washed by Joe Biden himself. My Colombian friends did cross with some Venezuelans, and I assumed everyone received the same treatment. I'll ask them later.

After seeing the living conditions in the poorer sections of Medellin, learning of the crime and violence (which is much worse for the poor than for the gringos), and knowing it's nearly impossible for most to improve their situation, anyone who is willing to take the risks, endure the hardship and face the uphill struggle of establishing a good life in the US, has my sympathy.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2906858]--------------------

The following information is 4 months old, but I received it directly from people who experienced it.

If you enter the United States illegally, for example by crossing the Rio Grande at Eagle Pass, Texas, and are detained by the US Customs and Border Control, you are placed in a detention center, where you will sit for 1 or more days, while a background check is ran. Except for your cell phone and identification, most of your belongings are thrown in a dumpster, including hairbrush, toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, almost everything except the clothes on your back. You also get to keep your money, provided you don't have too much. After a day or 2 you are released. Before being released, you must give a name, address and phone number of a responsible contact who is legally in the US, for example a citizen. The smart move is to immediately turn yourself in to immigration.

After release, there's a immigrant center run by a non-profit group which will give a meal and arrange for a $20 bus ride to the San Antonio Airport, provided you either have your own money to buy a ticket, or someone has bought you one. No shower facilities are provided at the detention center or immigrant center. You'll be getting on a plane after not bathing for 3 days, except for getting wet when you crossed the river. There is no free ticket, no free hotel stays, no $500 prepaid debit cards, you have to pay for your own bus ticket. There is only a requirement that you report to an immigration office within 2 months to arrange for an asylum hearing court date, where a federal judge will decide whether to grant you asylum, or send you back to your country of origin.

Because of a shortage of immigration judges, the wait for a hearing is 2 to 3 years. During that time you have no legal right to work, you receive no assistance of any kind from the federal government, although some states will allow you certain benefits. You are dependent on the charity of friends and finding whatever work you can, usually at a much lower pay, with zero benefits.

If you can find a job pimp (someone who provides a fake SSN and who gets paid by companies to provide undocumented labor) You'll be living in a crappy house, in a bad neighborhood, owned by the pimp, along with several other undocumented immigrants. Other than cheap mattresses thrown on the floor, or possibly on a couple of scavenged pallets, there's no furniture in the house. You will not have a bed to yourself. The rent and utilities will be just low enough to afford and it will be difficult to save enough money to improve your situation. The fake SSN grants you no benefits and it will only be accepted as identification by companies who are actively hiring undocumented immigrants to cut labor costs and avoid providing benefits.
------------------[/QUOTE]Piggybacking on your post with information as current as last week. (a few of my Venezuelan chicas took the beast to Jaurez).

Pretty much sums it up it for the lucky ones who make it across. I know a few who were not allowed to enter and were turned over to Mexico Immagration who then held them anywhere from 1 week to 3 weeks then deport them down to Guatemala at the Tapachula crossing basically forcing them to start the journey through Mexico all over again. The ones who do make it in. After providing the information of where they are going, they are giving a GPS ankle monitor to make sure they get to their destination and are on house arrest until the date of the appointment where they see the Judge who removes the ankle monitor. Then its another wait for the asylum date which is years away. From what I'm seeing over here on the East Coast they are earning money however they can. Some fell into criminal activity such as stealing, grab and run brand, label merchandise from stores and they sell them over by Junction Bvld on the sidewalks, girls who want easy money are working the street over in 11368 on Rosevelt, some are "borrowing" other people SSN to create food delivery accounts for Uber or Grub Hub and doing food deliveries, also "borrowing" scooters to make the deliveries. The older women are selling candy on the subway similar to the young kids who were doing it 10 years ago, anyone who have taken the train here have heard the speech at least one "excuse me ladies and gentlemen I'm not her selling candy for no basketball team or charity I'm doing it for myself to have money in my pocket and stay out of trouble" its crazy over here but I've seen worse.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2907127]Piggybacking on your post with information as current as last week. (a few of my Venezuelan chicas took the beast to Jaurez).

Pretty much sums it up it for the lucky ones who make it across. I know a few who were not allowed to enter and were turned over to Mexico Immagration who then held them anywhere from 1 week to 3 weeks then deport them down to Guatemala at the Tapachula crossing basically forcing them to start the journey through Mexico all over again. The ones who do make it in. After providing the information of where they are going, they are giving a GPS ankle monitor to make sure they get to their destination and are on house arrest until the date of the appointment where they see the Judge who removes the ankle monitor. Then its another wait for the asylum date which is years away. From what I'm seeing over here on the East Coast they are earning money however they can. Some fell into criminal activity such as stealing, grab and run brand, label merchandise from stores and they sell them over by Junction Bvld on the sidewalks, girls who want easy money are working the street over in 11368 on Rosevelt, some are "borrowing" other people SSN to create food delivery accounts for Uber or Grub Hub and doing food deliveries, also "borrowing" scooters to make the deliveries. The older women are selling candy on the subway similar to the young kids who were doing it 10 years ago, anyone who have taken the train here have heard the speech at least one "excuse me ladies and gentlemen I'm not her selling candy for no basketball team or charity I'm doing it for myself to have money in my pocket and stay out of trouble" its crazy over here but I've seen worse.[/QUOTE]No ankle monitors here, but that's about it. There's usually a job that nobody is willing to do for them: cleaning houses, hauling laundry for a hotel, or working in a meat processing plant.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2907355]No ankle monitors here, but that's about it. There's usually a job that nobody is willing to do for them: cleaning houses, hauling laundry for a hotel, or working in a meat processing plant.[/QUOTE]All I can say is if they pay a living wage then the fucking lazy Gen Z, Millennials will maybe, just maybe, be able to pay off their Psychology degree loans that Uncle Joe is making me pay for, never mind I made my money in Kandahar and Iraq, then invested that wisely. I got to fucking pay for women that want to go to school.

Hi, can you provide your list of Casa's and clubs? I am planning a trip in the next couple of months and this would save me going through all the pages.

[QUOTE=KebabOperator;2909217]Greetings gentleman,

I have recently been relocated back to the American continent thanks to Brandon and his idiotic politics, and thus, I am within range of Columbia. I have decided to go to Medellin in May, but I have never been to this beautiful city and don't know the lay of the land yet.

Now, I am not new to the hobby; my primary playground used to be Kyiv, Odessa, Moscow, and St. Petersburg. However, as you can guess, for obvious reasons, my company no longer operates in those markets, and thus, I am back in the Estados Unidos (hard facepalm). I am not new to Colombianas, as I used to be a big fan of Camp in Curacao (during its glory days) and even St. Martin bars. Therefore, I know that I like this type of cake a lot, but my old pals either got married or are halfway around the world. (yes, I am looking at you "retired" in Thailand lads). Traitors smh.

Thus, I have come to humbly request your advice, companionship, and wisdom. I don't mind the lone wolf game, but I always had more fun with friends and made some amazing life long friends through these kinds of shenanigans over the years.

I will be more than happy to return the favor and take you on a tour of your lifetime in Slavic paradise once this BS dies down, as I know every fish market imaginable in those lands..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wkahddl2;2908958]Hello brothers around the world!

I'm a Korean planning a sex tour of Central and South America! I think I'll probably fly into Medellin next week!

So can you give me some tips and nightlife hotspots?

I've seen a lot of YouTube videos of women with huge asses wearing leggings and jeans in dense areas like squares. Can you point me to those areas? Are all women dressed in slutty clothes working girls? I want threesomes I also want information of threesomes girls with good teamwork.

Lastly, I'm Asian and in Asia we don't do waxing Is it true that waxing has been popularized in the West and especially in South America? Do chika hate it if you have hair? Do I have to go get waxed I don't want it to hurt meow.[/QUOTE]I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medellíand.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261[/URL]

From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.

Guys, am I fucked?

I am an Asian young man going to South America for the first time.

I have already booked a flight to Medellin via LA and I can't cancel this booking.

Fortunately, I haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once I land in Medellíand airport, should I head to Bogotá?

People in Colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in Colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't Colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?

Please. I had watched dozens and dozens of videos on YouTube of working girls with huge butts shaking their asses in jeans on the street and now I was on my way to South America to fulfill my dream.

Has sex trafficking definitely decreased? Or is it only affecting clubs and bars? I want to pick up a street hookerI want to pick up a girl with a big ass on a photogenic street! Please! Help me westerners!

I have been through hundreds of sex trafficking in Korea and Japan and I can tell you anything you want to know about sex trafficking in Korea and Japan. Please help me.

[QUOTE=Wkahddl2;2909500]I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medelland.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261[/URL]

From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.

Guys, am I fucked?[/QUOTE]Be careful. We have a lot going on here behind the scenes. Also do your research. There was an Asian dude killed not long ago.

[quote=wkahddl2;2909500]i wrote this post the other day and came across this today while googling for information on sex trafficking in medelland.

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261[/url]

from this article, it looks like the mayor of colombia has banned prostitution.

Guys, am i fucked?

I have already booked a flight to medellin via la and i can't cancel this booking.

Fortunately, i haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once i land in medelland airport, should i head to bogot?

People in colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?

Has sex trafficking definitely decreased? Or is it only affecting clubs and bars? I want to pick up a street hookeri want to pick up a girl with a big ass on a photogenic street! Please! Help me westerners! Please help me.[/quote]the ban is only for 6 months. Relax.

It is not even a ban. City Hall has no authority to impose a ban on constitutionally protected legal activity. There would have to be a series of legislative procedures for that to happen. City Hall does have the power to restrict other activities such as liquor sales, access to public spaces, and enforcement of established laws like late night noise. Those are facts. My opinion about the facts is all of the restrictions, posters, and police deployments are politically motivated responses to criticism City Hall has been getting about foreign pedos various other issues.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2909708]the ban is only for 6 months. Relax.[/QUOTE]

I am fascinated by the public messaging. The latest turn is a Chinese tourist was released from custody after being caught with a 14 year old because the kid had presented a cedula. The media coverage is the interesting bit for me. They are now reporting that authorities are investigating whether criminal gangs are using what they call a new technique by providing false cedulas. Since the courts ruled the foreigner can't be blamed, the mysterious criminal gangs become the scapegoat. I've yet to see anything beyond passing mention of the families of young locals, or the economic circumstances that are related to these events. The right wing media, led by local newspaper El Colombiano, in my opinion won't touch the subject because they would be criticizing their readership and their owners.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2909683]Be careful. We have a lot going on here behind the scenes. Also do your research. There was an Asian dude killed not long ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wkahddl2;2909500]I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medelland.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261[/URL]

From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.

Guys, am I fucked?

I am an Asian young man going to South America for the first time.

I have already booked a flight to Medellin via LA and I can't cancel this booking.

Fortunately, I haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once I land in Medelland airport, should I head to Bogot?

People in Colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in Colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't Colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?

Please. I had watched dozens and dozens of videos on YouTube of working girls with huge butts shaking their asses in jeans on the street and now I was on my way to South America to fulfill my dream.

[/QUOTE]First, it is the mayor of Medellin, not Colombia. And the ban, or whatever it is, applies only to a part of the city. Read back for more details if you want. The YouTube videos are probably not helping you. They paint a very distorted picture generally. And the sex trade in Colombia is not doomed, but the current moves may make it harder for foreigners as there have been actions taken in Cartagena and in Medellin to curb some of the real problems, plus some imaginary problems.

Bro. It seems highly likely that English may not be your primary language. Please note that the word "sex trafficking" has a significant negative meaning attached to it. We all know why you are coming to Medellin and let’s not call that “sex trafficking“. LOL.

By the way, there is no general ban on prostitution. Prostitution is almost a constitutional right in Columbia. No one can ban it. But cities are allowed to apply restrictions in certain areas for a maximum of six months. After that they have to either renew the restriction or drop it. That is the law.

Mayor, mainly under political pressure from opposition, decided to make these two restrictions. 1) street walking prostitution is not allowed in Parque Lleras and centro. 2) bars within the two blocks of lleras have to close by 1 AM. That is it. Rest of the life in all of Medellin is just as usual. Unless you were planning to come to the city exclusively for the street walkers in these two zones, there is no reason to be worried about the trip.

In my personal opinion, banning Street walking in the Gerace areas is a very good thing. I am strongly biased against street walking. Kind of like several of our other biological needs, I prefer all aspects of sex to be in private, including sourcing of it. Me personally, I would love to see Lleras go back to how it was six years ago. Please, nobody be upset with me. That is just purely a personal opinion. It is No judgment on people who feel differently.

[QUOTE=Wkahddl2;2909500]I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medelland.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261[/URL]

From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.

Guys, am I fucked?

I am an Asian young man going to South America for the first time.

I have already booked a flight to Medellin via LA and I can't cancel this booking.

Fortunately, I haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once I land in Medelland airport, should I head to Bogot?

People in Colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in Colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't Colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?

Please. I had watched dozens and dozens of videos on YouTube of working girls with huge butts shaking their asses in jeans on the street and now I was on my way to South America to fulfill my dream.

Has sex trafficking definitely decreased? Or is it only affecting clubs and bars? I want to pick up a street hookerI want to pick up a girl with a big ass on a photogenic street! Please! Help me westerners!

I have been through hundreds of sex trafficking in Korea and Japan and I can tell you anything you want to know about sex trafficking in Korea and Japan. Please help me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2909900]Bro. It seems highly likely that English may not be your primary language. Please note that the word "sex trafficking" has a significant negative meaning attached to it. We all know why you are coming to Medellin and lets not call that sex trafficking. LOL.

By the way, there is no general ban on prostitution. Prostitution is almost a constitutional right in Columbia. No one can ban it. But cities are allowed to apply restrictions in certain areas for a maximum of six months. After that they have to either renew the restriction or drop it. That is the law.

Mayor, mainly under political pressure from opposition, decided to make these two restrictions. 1) street walking prostitution is not allowed in Parque Lleras and centro. 2) bars within the two blocks of lleras have to close by 1 AM. That is it. Rest of the life in all of Medellin is just as usual. Unless you were planning to come to the city exclusively for the street walkers in these two zones, there is no reason to be worried about the trip.

In my personal opinion, banning Street walking in the Gerace areas is a very good thing. I am strongly biased against street walking. Kind of like several of our other biological needs, I prefer all aspects of sex to be in private, including sourcing of it. Me personally, I would love to see Lleras go back to how it was six years ago. Please, nobody be upset with me. That is just purely a personal opinion. It is No judgment on people who feel differently.[/QUOTE]Centro was not part of the decree. Only Poblado was mentioned in the decree and only a specific area outlined as a hexagonal area including parque lleras, parque poblado, parque presidential, and some other areas maybe Provenza or Calle 10.

Also according to reports here it is not even being enforced. The 1 am thing was being enforced for like 2 or 3 days and then it was changed to 3 am which is only 1 hour earlier than before the decree and I'm sure there are clandestine bars open even later.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2909900]In my personal opinion, banning Street walking in the Gerace areas is a very good thing. I am strongly biased against street walking. Kind of like several of our other biological needs, I prefer all aspects of sex to be in private, including sourcing of it. Me personally, I would love to see Lleras go back to how it was six years ago. Please, nobody be upset with me. That is just purely a personal opinion. It is No judgment on people who feel differently.[/QUOTE]I don't know that I agree that all aspects of sex should be private, but I do think that at the end of the day, streetwalking is not good for the hobby. It's too out in the open to the public to where it gives those who would like to ban all forms of prostitution altogether some easy ammunition to bolster their arguments for doing so. If we must err in one direction, then more discreet and low-key is definitely better overall.

You Don't like these?

Stay Home.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2910037]I don't know that I agree that all aspects of sex should be private, but I do think that at the end of the day, streetwalking is not good for the hobby. It's too out in the open to the public to where it gives those who would like to ban all forms of prostitution altogether some easy ammunition to bolster their arguments for doing so. If we must err in one direction, then more discreet and low-key is definitely better overall.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2910398]You Don't like these?[/QUOTE]I didn't say I didn't like them. I said that I didn't think it was good for the hobby. And no need for me to stay home. I have [B]plenty[/B] of other options amigo.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYVq5cjE24[/URL]

There are so many videos on YT warning against visiting Medellin. The sex scene is too dangerous with too many druggings that have led to a big rise in deaths of Western tourists. Can anyone with first hand experience comment?

How do you take girls back to your room if you know there is a high chance that you could get drugged and robbed? Any tips? Is it safe to take a girl back if you lock away your valuables and don't take your eyes off your drink?

[QUOTE=UKBadBoy;2910900][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYVq5cjE24[/URL]

There are so many videos on YT warning against visiting Medellin. The sex scene is too dangerous with too many druggings that have led to a big rise in deaths of Western tourists. Can anyone with first hand experience comment?

How do you take girls back to your room if you know there is a high chance that you could get drugged and robbed? Any tips? Is it safe to take a girl back if you lock away your valuables and don't take your eyes off your drink?[/QUOTE]Yes. If you use YouTube videos to get your information, Medellin is too dangerous to visit.

The same is true about scuba diving, if you use YouTube videos to learn to scuba dive, it's too dangerous.

Apparently there is a gross misunderstanding about YouTube. YouTube is an [B]Entertainment Platform.[/B] The people posting there hoping their videos will be entertaining enough to go viral and get them enough subscribers and viewers to make money. Videos stating 10,000 people visited, fucked to their heart's content and went home smiling and satisfied don't go viral. However, a video saying 1 person out of every 50,000 visitors had something bad happen might just do the trick.

Of course the videos never point out the vast majority who have no problems, only focusing on the 1, who usually ignored all the red flags.

Yes. Medellin is dangerous. It's a city of over 4 million people with a high population density and a high poverty rate. High population, high population density and high poverty rate are major factors in determining crime rate. Add in all the tourists who go for the combination of drugs and cheap pussy and it gets worse. Now toss in people who get all their information from YouTube and it's terrible.

Staying safe in Medellin is possible if you follow some common sense rules.

1. Get the fuck off YouTube. It's for cute cat videos and to watch fat women fighting in Walmart.

2. Stay sober.

3. Know where you are going. Study maps and have a plan.

4. Don't advertise. Leave your jewelry and all the expensive shit at home.

5. Carry only what you need. You don't need a wallet, 8 credit cards and $2,000 USD in cash. You need a phone, preferably 1 that isn't holding access to all your accounts. You need the cash (in pesos) you're going to spend plus 10-20%. You might need an ATM card, plus copies of your passport main page and entry stamp page.

6. Remember that you have no friends. Anyone offering to help you find girls, drugs, places to party or anything else, probably has an ulterior motive. Same goes for anyone offering drinks, or to take you somewhere.

7. Be wary of anyone offering drinks, or offering sex upon first meeting (unless you're meeting them specifically to pay for sex). Same is true for someone pushing to go to your apartment.

8. Don't leave hookers unattended with your stuff. Don't allow them to get you drinks or food.

[QUOTE=UKBadBoy;2910900][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYVq5cjE24[/URL]

There are so many videos on YT warning against visiting Medellin.......[/QUOTE]In 2023 thirty-one foreigners were murdered in Medellin while three hundred and sixty-one Colombians were killed there. I suppose there should be warnings to Colombians against visiting Medellin too.

I have visited Medellin about 20 times over the last 8 years with some trips lasting 3 months. I have even gotten functional in Spanish. If you are careful with who you invite and where you stay, there is not a 'high chance' you will get drugged and robbed with any girl you take back. But even if you are careful in how you screen your chicas, it is impossible to make it 'no chance'. A buddy of mine stayed in a building that is well known for great security and was drugged by a chica who had gotten in with a fake ID. I had to lend him money just to eat.

That people will post here saying they personally haven't had a problem is statistically insignificant.

I returned from a 6 week trip last month. It will be my last. I loved MDE. But for me MDE is over. The chicas are getting more mercenary. The locals are getting more angry and hostile. The street has gotten more dangerous. The influx of Nomads and tourists has made logging costs unreasonable. The Peso has gotten stronger making everything more expensive.

I'm heading back to Asia.

[QUOTE=UKBadBoy;2910900][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYVq5cjE24[/URL]

There are so many videos on YT warning against visiting Medellin. The sex scene is too dangerous with too many druggings that have led to a big rise in deaths of Western tourists. Can anyone with first hand experience comment?

How do you take girls back to your room if you know there is a high chance that you could get drugged and robbed? Any tips? Is it safe to take a girl back if you lock away your valuables and don't take your eyes off your drink?[/QUOTE]

We can always, always, always count on some asshole to mess it up for everybody!

[URL]https://youtu.be/CczQzgoBEhg?si=UyMQyx4AcB8RndB_[/URL]

I will be in MDE in a few weeks, staying at a female-friendly hotel and meeting the ladies from [URL]https://lacelestina.co/[/URL] for privacy and security purposes.

I am assuming these girls are not going to drug and rob me.

[QUOTE=UKBadBoy;2910900][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYVq5cjE24[/URL]

There are so many videos on YT warning against visiting Medellin. The sex scene is too dangerous with too many druggings that have led to a big rise in deaths of Western tourists. Can anyone with first hand experience comment?

How do you take girls back to your room if you know there is a high chance that you could get drugged and robbed? Any tips? Is it safe to take a girl back if you lock away your valuables and don't take your eyes off your drink?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2911126]In 2023 thirty-one foreigners were murdered in Medellin[/QUOTE]I would venture a guess, overwhelmingly most if not all of them were mongers of some sort. If you add up every murder of mongers around the world on all of this forums locales, I would doubt they total 1.

So that would make Medellin the most dangerous place to monger in the world, in fact more dangerous than all other locales combined, I am curious to know their clearance rate down there.

A 51 year old American was caught yesterday with an underage girl.

Also some crime statistics shown in the news report.

[URL]https://youtu.be/urctrD85mdQ?si=_B_y-V7YpYCvFjI-[/URL]

Follow Along.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2911175]I have visited Medellin about 20 times over the last 8 years with some trips lasting 3 months. I have even gotten functional in Spanish. If you are careful with who you invite and where you stay, there is not a 'high chance' you will get drugged and robbed with any girl you take back. But even if you are careful in how you screen your chicas, it is impossible to make it 'no chance'. A buddy of mine stayed in a building that is well known for great security and was drugged by a chica who had gotten in with a fake ID. I had to lend him money just to eat.

That people will post here saying they personally haven't had a problem is statistically insignificant.

I returned from a 6 week trip last month. It will be my last. I loved MDE. But for me MDE is over. The chicas are getting more mercenary. The locals are getting more angry and hostile. The street has gotten more dangerous..[/QUOTE]I get it. I had a woman in Barranquilla who was really sweet. We met in Medellin and she talked with her cousin who lived there. She became crazy aggressive and demanded more money. I dumped her because the sweet girl I liked had become this ruthless money machine. She had this crazy fixation on $200 and this was in 2021. I considered her a friendly acquaintance if not a friend but when she went into Medellin full hooker mode, I went into john mode and told her she was not worth that much. The greed spurred on by her Medellin cousin destroyed whatever we had. Even when she was back in Barranquilla, she still had the $200 price tag. I just shrugged my shoulders and told her if I wanted to get laid, I could get it for 10% of what she was asking. Medellin completely ruined her.

And it was not just her. The women in Medellin have an edge unlike women elsewhere in the country. It is like a game to see which sex can screw over the other sex first. So there was this defensiveness and shitty attitude towards men that I did not see elsewhere in the country. The irony is a few women went out of their way to show me that they were not the money grubbing, scamming hookers so characteristic of Medellin. So yeah, the beauties are here, but they come with an edge. My gal's daughter even made a comment when we were in Mexico when a bunch of Colombians came to swim in a pool we were in. She said, "Paisas! (people from Medellin) I hate paisas. " They have no use for Medellin at all, and they are not alone.

I have been to places in Colombia where beauties abound, the countryside is gorgeous, and people do not lock their doors. The women in Bogota are not as pretty but they are classier and friendlier. If you are into women with curves, Cali is tough to beat. Barranquilla is where the famed Colombian beauties like Shakira and Sofia Vergara are from and beauties abound in that tropical climate.

So yeah, go to Asia if your dollar stretches further, but most of Colombia is not like Medellin. Not at all.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2911212]A 51 year old American was caught yesterday with an underage girl.

Also some crime statistics shown in the news report.

[URL]https://youtu.be/urctrD85mdQ?si=_B_y-V7YpYCvFjI-[/URL]

Follow Along.[/QUOTE]This is bad. They don't even say how young/old the girl was. Could have been just minor for prostitution purposes, not even minor as per common law. And the guy gets arrested on camera like he was Bin Laden.

Colombia = foreign monger entrapment country number one now.

[QUOTE=XXL;2911399]This is bad. They don't even say how young/old the girl was. Could have been just minor for prostitution purposes, not even minor as per common law. And the guy gets arrested on camera like he was Bin Laden.

Colombia = foreign monger entrapment country number one now.[/QUOTE]Entrapment? Not likely. And what is a minor for prostitution purposes. I know the answer but in the US and other countries and in Colombia this aspect of law is the same. And what you refer to as a minor by common law is ridiculous. It is not common law, it is statute law, and it is no excuse to somehow think that it is less wrong to be with a minor sex worker. Whether some were unknowingly with someone under 18 in a prostitution situation. Yes that has happened, and is very unfortunate. But it is up to all that are part of this to be quite sure that you are not over this line.

And in Colombia you may get arrested in any manner they choose.

Anyway, I'm not a fan of the mayor or others implying that it is only the dirty gringos doing this. That is political and does nothing for the estimated several hundred thousand victims in the country. Hopefully that will be dealt with as well, even if it does not get the same publicity. There is awareness of the problem, and the internal look will come because many people there know it and can point it out.

Two things:

BBBJCIM great experience recently for 120,000 pesos. Prices are a bit higher now, but can't complain given the general inflation everywhere.

Guys still getting busted in Meddy for messing with minors. This American got caught the other day: [URL]https://youtu.be/rEWIXMaIcQ0?si=V3C_ZJ_D4-bGujK3[/URL].

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2911751]Guys still getting busted in Meddy for messing with minors. This American got caught the other day: [URL]https://youtu.be/rEWIXMaIcQ0?si=V3C_ZJ_D4-bGujK3[/URL].[/QUOTE]Good! I hope the wanker rots in a Colombian prison for a long miserable time.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2911175]I have visited Medellin about 20 times over the last 8 years with some trips lasting 3 months. I have even gotten functional in Spanish. If you are careful with who you invite and where you stay, there is not a 'high chance' you will get drugged and robbed with any girl you take back. But even if you are careful in how you screen your chicas, it is impossible to make it 'no chance'. A buddy of mine stayed in a building that is well known for great security and was drugged by a chica who had gotten in with a fake ID. I had to lend him money just to eat.

That people will post here saying they personally haven't had a problem is statistically insignificant.

I returned from a 6 week trip last month. It will be my last. I loved MDE. But for me MDE is over. The chicas are getting more mercenary. The locals are getting more angry and hostile. The street has gotten more dangerous. The influx of Nomads and tourists has made logging costs unreasonable. The Peso has gotten stronger making everything more expensive.

I'm heading back to Asia.[/QUOTE]Nothing against Venezuelans but its very well known the Venezuelans that have infiltrated Colombian cities are not buy scouts. They use women as weapons to prey on Foreigners and Medellin is one of their favorite places to target Ill-informed tourists. The girls attracted tourists, the tourists attract the Venezuelan gangs. Try learning Spanish and go to some of the other lesser known cities in Colombia. Cartagena, Bogota and Barranquilla not being one of them.

35 year old British citizen found dead yesterday in El Poblado. He makes the 29th foreign citizen to die in Medellin in 2024.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hl_BoZjCcFU?si=Xh-V9qzEAON5an34[/URL]

Follow Along.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2912119]35 year old British citizen found dead yesterday in El Poblado. He makes the 29th foreign citizen to die in Medellin in 2024.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hl_BoZjCcFU?si=Xh-V9qzEAON5an34[/URL]

Follow Along.[/QUOTE]Found in a hostel by his girlfriend, no signs of violence, empty medicine bottles, and obvious obesity-related health problems. Stop needlessly fear-mongering.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2911538]Entrapment? Not likely. And what is a minor for prostitution purposes. I know the answer but in the US and other countries and in Colombia this aspect of law is the same. And what you refer to as a minor by common law is ridiculous. It is not common law, it is statute law, and it is no excuse to somehow think that it is less wrong to be with a minor sex worker. Whether some were unknowingly with someone under 18 in a prostitution situation. Yes that has happened, and is very unfortunate. But it is up to all that are part of this to be quite sure that you are not over this line.

And in Colombia you may get arrested in any manner they choose.

Anyway, I'm not a fan of the mayor or others implying that it is only the dirty gringos doing this. That is political and does nothing for the estimated several hundred thousand victims in the country. Hopefully that will be dealt with as well, even if it does not get the same publicity. There is awareness of the problem, and the internal look will come because many people there know it and can point it out.[/QUOTE]Well, there's nothing to worry about then. All is well.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2912119]35 year old British citizen found dead yesterday in El Poblado. He makes the 29th foreign citizen to die in Medellin in 2024.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hl_BoZjCcFU?si=Xh-V9qzEAON5an34[/URL]

Follow Along.[/QUOTE]Let's see. 659,000 foreign visitors last year, roughly 1,800 per day. 120 days so far this year, or 216,000 visitors, with 29 deaths. That's 0. 013%.

Every year, around 5,000 US travelers die while traveling abroad.

Not sure why it's important to follow along, or follow a YouTube provider who apparently can't handle simple math.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2912119]35 year old British citizen found dead yesterday in El Poblado. He makes the 29th foreign citizen to die in Medellin in 2024.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hl_BoZjCcFU?si=Xh-V9qzEAON5an34[/URL]

Follow Along.[/QUOTE]Obese and on many medications. No foul play.

A 50 year old US citizen was found dead Tuesday April 30,2024 in the Trinidad barrio of Medellin.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Uh1YSeXB7Xc?si=sRV01nVx6WdFDrwC[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Gabacho;2912368]A 50 year old US citizen was found dead Tuesday April 30,2024 in the Trinidad barrio of Medellin.

Follow Along.[/QUOTE]He says he posts these videos as a news services for tourists. But then he records them accompanied by a 'crime scene' background. Couldn't possibly be that he is sensationalising each death from natural causes in order to generate clicks, could it?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2912452]He says he posts these videos as a news services for tourists. But then he records them accompanied by a 'crime scene' background. Couldn't possibly be that he is sensationalising each death from natural causes in order to generate clicks, could it?[/QUOTE]Yea the last 2 seem to be just obese guys who died from health issues. I actually posted the links before I watched the whole video.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2912453]Yea the last 2 seem to be just obese guys who died from health issues. I actually posted the links before I watched the whole video.[/QUOTE]That's what he expects people to do. His "content" is mostly crap. No fact checking, no reliable sources, and much of it is complete garbage.

Admins should block all posts with YouTube links. They are only harmful to the community (either through misinformation, or by bringing unwanted attention) and they represent someone attempting to use ISG for financial gain.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2912453]Yea the last 2 seem to be just obese guys who died from health issues. I actually posted the links before I watched the whole video.[/QUOTE]Most likely more victims from the Clot Shot -- So many Mysterious Deaths in 2023-24. I know the DickHeads who Still Believe in the propaganda that is put out by the BigPharma media working girls will be Triggered by this-- Wake the F up you idiots-- - (Capitalization is not random-- it ios for emphasis see link).

[URL]https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/133643/is-one-allowed-to-use-capitalization-for-emphasis[/URL]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2912498]Admins should block all posts with YouTube links. They are only harmful to the community (either through misinformation, or by bringing unwanted attention) and they represent someone attempting to use ISG for financial gain.[/QUOTE]This is one time I completely agree with you.

Man who killed DJ girlfriend got 42 years.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/john-poulos-american-42-years-femicide-colombia-suitcase/[/URL]

Colombia has a $7 billion deficit. What will that mean for the exchange rate?

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombia-facing-budget-shortfall-nearly-7-billion-2024-06-04/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2920378]Colombia has a $7 billion deficit. What will that mean for the exchange rate?

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombia-facing-budget-shortfall-nearly-7-billion-2024-06-04/[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bbvaresearch.com/en/publicaciones/colombia-economic-outlook-march-2024/[/URL]

BBVA is projecting the peso at 4300 next year.

I was pretty shocked to see Colombia at a much higher risk of default than Peru and even slightly higher than Brazil.

4300 sounds about right if there is no recession. I think we go back to 5000 or higher if the USA hits recession as people pile into the dollar like they did with Covid. As for why there will be one, this guy lays out the case for a USA recession.

[URL]https://mishtalk.com/economics/a-second-quarter-recession-this-year-looks-increasingly-likely/[/URL]

[URL]https://mishtalk.com/economics/i-expect-a-fed-rate-cut-in-july-despite-market-view-of-18-5-percent-chance/[/URL]

In general, data is weakening across the board. Real disposable income has been negative in two of the last there months.

The BEA mage a large negative revision to GDP and GDI.

Consumer spending took a dive in April and I expect it will stick this time.

Terrible reports from Target and Walmart on discretionary consumer spending.

There have been numerous negative revisions in most of the recent hard data.

Job openings are plunging.

The GDPNow forecast is plunging fast.

I finally expect rent to break the string of 32 consecutive months of rising at least 0. 4 percent.

The July meeting is nearly two months away, on July 31. There is plenty of time for further economic weakening and that is what I expect.

There is no meeting in August. If the Fed is at all concerned about slowing, but not wanting to risk being too late (not that it will matter, but that is how the Fed thinks), the Fed will find a reason for a July cut.

And usually you see a recession when you see people saying the stupidest shit going. Remember the liar loans right before the 2008 recession where it was cool to loan someone making minimum wage a million bucks to buy a house because housing never goes down?

Well, this was some of the stupidest shit I have read, and it was today, [URL]https://www.wsj.com/economy/americans-have-more-investment-income-than-ever-before-84b7a6c6[/URL].

Taken together, recent stock gains and bond income have put Hernandez in a better position to achieve his goals of retiring early and helping his two boys buy future homes.

"I'm not going to die and take the money with me," he said.

The income flowing to Americans such as Hernandez has sparked debate among some analysts as to whether higher interest rates might actually be stimulating the economy. End of link.

The USA is now paying $1. 2 trillion annually on interest on the debt. Over the last 10 years, that was $300 or $400 billion. And there are economists debating if that could be a good thing? That is some pretty fucking stupid shit.

Back to the article. Instead, hype around artificial intelligence has helped push major stock indexes near records by boosting shares in tech companies, chip makers and even utilities. End of link.

Yeah, that is what is keeping everything going, the hype of AI. The good part is on the hardware side where Nvidia has been selling enough of the chips to keep the AI hype going, but it is up to the software people to take those chips and do something useful with them. If you look at Microsoft and Google, there are extraordinary AI expected gains priced in their stocks right now. If they fall short, the market is done.

So the USA market has priced in the kid of productive gains for AI seen with the internet or railroads, but I have not seen anything affecting my life from AI yet. It was cute and cool to play with it, but that has been all so far. It is weird to say that the Colombian exchange rate comes down to if the hype of AI is met, but I believe it does.

Petro has claimed the health care system is bankrupt; it is nothing more than corruption. I know a nurse who has not been paid by the clinic she works at in more than 3 months. They went on strike for a day, but still have not received their back due pay. All but one of my friends want to get out. And the one who doesn't one to leave Colombia happens to be living in Europe at the moment; she hasn't seen her homeland in almost 12 months.

Obsessed retard John Poulos gets 42 years for killing Valentina Trespalacios, and Jesse Wiseman is still on the run.

[URL]https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/john-poulos-sentenced-to-42-years-for-murder-of-bogota-dj-valentina-trespalacios/[/URL]

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2921055]Petro has claimed the health care system is bankrupt; it is nothing more than corruption[/QUOTE]Yes its difficult after so many decades of right wing corruption. The new cabinet have much to fix and they xan only take baby steps for the fear of civil war. The rich and powerful do not want to pay their taxes, just like in all other countries that sold their souls to capitalism. Colombia is a democracy born in chains. Hopefully it will persist and then we can see substantive progress for the people.

Whoever was at parque lleras last night got to see the new wave of measures against mongers. So they have plain clothes officers arresting people if they are suspected for soliciting minors. 2 men were arrested and given how Colombia has been handling these cases, they will likely face serious sentences in a Colombian jail. Honestly, it's not easy to tell the difference between a 16 yr old Colombian who's had a hard life who tells you she just turned 20. This city is sick of male tourists in general. Add that to more and more gringos are getting drugged and killed, I simply can't justify it anymore. If I didn't have real estate in the city there's no way I would come back when there's other countries where I can happily monger in peace. The good days are over boys. It's honestly getting creepy.

Real estate prices are up, maybe this is a good time to sell? Anyway, I was not in Parque Lleras last night but I had a great time. I probably don't know what the good days were. Thanks for the heads up or warning or whatever this is. Keep us up to date on your progress. I follow the local news pretty regularly. I'm not aware of any local or foreigner who has been incarcerated for a serious sentence in the past year or so, are you?

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2923189]Whoever was at parque lleras last night got to see the new wave of measures against mongers. So they have plain clothes officers arresting people if they are suspected for soliciting minors. 2 men were arrested and given how Colombia has been handling these cases, they will likely face serious sentences in a Colombian jail. Honestly, it's not easy to tell the difference between a 16 yr old Colombian who's had a hard life who tells you she just turned 20. This city is sick of male tourists in general. Add that to more and more gringos are getting drugged and killed, I simply can't justify it anymore. If I didn't have real estate in the city there's no way I would come back when there's other countries where I can happily monger in peace. The good days are over boys. It's honestly getting creepy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2923189]Honestly, it's not easy to tell the difference between a 16 yr old Colombian who's had a hard life who tells you she just turned 20.[/QUOTE]It is actually very easy to tell. Look at the clothing and accessories for one. Maybe I better take that back since there are guys on this site that swear they can not even tell the difference between a woman and a dude dressed up as a woman.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2923189]Whoever was at parque lleras last night got to see the new wave of measures against mongers. So they have plain clothes officers arresting people if they are suspected for soliciting minors. 2 men were arrested and given how Colombia has been handling these cases, they will likely face serious sentences in a Colombian jail. Honestly, it's not easy to tell the difference between a 16 yr old Colombian who's had a hard life who tells you she just turned 20. This city is sick of male tourists in general. Add that to more and more gringos are getting drugged and killed, I simply can't justify it anymore. If I didn't have real estate in the city there's no way I would come back when there's other countries where I can happily monger in peace. The good days are over boys. It's honestly getting creepy.[/QUOTE]Post pandemic it's been like this.

This is Sosua 2. 0. The difference is Colombian government won't tolerate gringos making their country look like the Disney of brothels on YouTube or TikTok.

I expect a crash landing soon. I really think they're going to simply ban prostitution in Medellin soon just to legally arrest a ton of gringos and make them look bad.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2923189]Whoever was at parque lleras last night got to see the new wave of measures against mongers. ..[/QUOTE]Do you mean the underage girls are allowed inside the park, and there was no ID check at the gate?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2922802]You better bring a lot of stuff then. In Sosua a threesome means fucking one chick while her friend is stealing your stuff. Then fucking the other chick while the one you just finished fucking steals more of your stuff. And do not just think of stuff as valuables. Stuff can be cologne, toothpaste, whatever is in the fridge, anything. So if you want nonstop 3 somes, be sure to have nonstop stuff for them to steal.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2923132][B]Concerned about security in the room with the chicas[/B]?

1. Book a room in another hotel.

2. Goto a Cabana.

3. Stay at a hotel that keeps or records the cedula of your guest.

Lastly ignore the idiocy that is found in the post below. Enjoy![/QUOTE]All due respect, this is not an idiocy but common sense. A threesome is one of the most dangerous things for a solo newbie monger in Sosua. And not just a newbie. And not just in Sosua, but anywhere else for that matter.

But the danger specifically in Sosua is not a petty theft, IMHO. Things can get heated when a girl decides to change the terms midsession. Imagine when 2 of them gang up on you.

Not even mentioning that threesomes are ridiculously overrated unless the girls are really into each other AND you. But that's not a project on a virgin voyage.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2923189]Whoever was at parque lleras last night got to see the new wave of measures against mongers. So they have plain clothes officers arresting people if they are suspected for soliciting minors. 2 men were arrested and given how Colombia has been handling these cases, they will likely face serious sentences in a Colombian jail. Honestly, it's not easy to tell the difference between a 16 yr old Colombian who's had a hard life who tells you she just turned 20. This city is sick of male tourists in general. Add that to more and more gringos are getting drugged and killed, I simply can't justify it anymore. If I didn't have real estate in the city there's no way I would come back when there's other countries where I can happily monger in peace. The good days are over boys. It's honestly getting creepy.[/QUOTE]In your first forum post (April 2024), a rant against the current state of Medellin, you claim you've lived there for 7 years. Your second post, shortly after that, you claim you made your first trip to MDE in years. You were all but accosted by immigration. This is your third post. If your first posts were true and you are so alarmed or so worried, what are you doing in Parque Lleras? I'm not trying to be combative or argumentative. Your motivation is clear. It's just your three posts aren't adding up. Do you live there? Just visiting? Is your Lleras information first hand?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2921103]Yes its difficult after so many decades of right wing corruption. The new cabinet have much to fix and they xan only take baby steps for the fear of civil war. The rich and powerful do not want to pay their taxes, just like in all other countries that sold their souls to capitalism. Colombia is a democracy born in chains. Hopefully it will persist and then we can see substantive progress for the people.[/QUOTE]You pretty much hit it on the head. The right (whether it be the liberals or conservatives. Yes you US citizens, liberal does NOT mean left) has had Colombia for well over a century and has done everything possible to not invest in the people in a grand scale.

Colombia has people of various colors who are mostly loving and gracious people. Yet they have so many criminals and hustlers and criminal armed groups. Wonder why? The rich have done everything to make sure the wealth goes their way, and that there be NO huge investment in bettering the lives of the Colombian people. They just want to have Colombia live off exporting raw materials, and be consumers of mostly western products while never industrializing themselves (aka achieve a level of economic independence as much as possible within what they can achieve). That's a path to being forever an undeveloped country. Plenty of crime, hustlers, prostitution, with the rich people separated and protected from all that. Thankfully Petro represents a change of all that. But too many older people are still ignorant as shit. But Petro is a good start.

The problem is Colombia has a western electoral political system. That gives opportunity for the wealthy classes to interrupt any legitimate long term plans for development. "Western Democracy" doesn't work for poor countries whose legacy comes from colonialism. That's why Asia has been so successful. They didn't adopt this "western democracy" crap. They had de facto juntas that had long term development plans for their societies and today it has bore fruit. Am ranting a bit but food for thought.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2923319]All due respect, this is not an idiocy but common sense. A threesome is one of the most dangerous things for a solo newbie monger in Sosua. And not just a newbie. And not just in Sosua, but anywhere else for that matter.

But the danger specifically in Sosua is not a petty theft, IMHO. Things can get heated when a girl decides to change the terms midsession. Imagine when 2 of them gang up on you.

Not even mentioning that threesomes are ridiculously overrated unless the girls are really into each other AND you. But that's not a project on a virgin voyage.[/QUOTE]The risk for a newbie, is much the same as with a single session with any stranger off the street.

I've been a threesome fan all my life, and had some memorable sessions, all the way from roommate students on college campus in my home town, to hitch-hiking honeys in California in the good old days, to high end hookers from the Casinos of the Bahamas. Never had a problem except, a couple times they insisted I changed condoms every time I alternated from one to the other.

Except for the free after party stuff with friends, there's a bit of science and a bit of art, and a bit of money involved that makes it work for me. Not just two warm bodies. The golden rule of threesomes for me is to let your gal pick the third, and you both have to agree.

My regular is bi, so threesomes are not uncommon, especially as I get older.

CoolieHigh knows what I'm talking about, I've seen him in action. Maybe he will weigh in?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2923319]All due respect, this is not an idiocy but common sense.[/QUOTE]In my opinion the response was idiocy. Maybe written in sarcastic manner but I did not think it had any useful information for a new person hiring prostitutes in Sosua. We will have to agree to disagree.

[B]With all due respect on June 11, 2016 I posted the following[/B]:

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1892373]I've been in this game for years. It made me an animal. There's rules to this shit. I wrote me a manual. A step-by-step booklet for you to get your two balls drained while many pesos remain.

[b]Number nine[/b]: should been number one to me. Two chicas you don't know will bring you certain whoa. Threesome in your room is always a no go. Turn head for a minute you be left with nothing in it.[/QUOTE]Let me translate for you: These were instructions that I wrote to educate people on how to take care of themselves while hiring prostitutes in the Dominican Republic. Perhaps the fact that I did not write it in the Kings English made it more difficult for those who are less diverse or knowledgable about the colorful use of language to understand. But the principles are there and still applicable today for those who need them. Feel free to add to them if you feel I missed something.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2923319]A threesome is one of the most dangerous things for a solo newbie monger in Sosua. And not just a newbie. And not just in Sosua, but anywhere else for that matter.[/QUOTE]Dangerous is simply not a word I have ever associated with mongering in Sosua unless you are talking about [B]BBFS[/B]. My post that you quoted is a very practical step by step guide on how you handle issues of petty theft if you are concerned about it. You see when I write posts I provide information for the subject to use. Not commentary that even a used sense of humor purchased a 2nd hand store does not think is funny.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2923319]But the danger specifically in Sosua is not a petty theft, IMHO. Things can get heated when a girl decides to change the terms midsession. Imagine when 2 of them gang up on you.[/QUOTE]I have never had a conflict with a chica in Sosua. IMO these conflicts happen because people are too attached to that worthless fiat currency they bring with them to pay their prostitutes.

They get in the room. Something does not go exactly to their specifications and they get upset. When they could just end the session and send the chica on her way with her payment or less.

This has happened to me less than half a dozen times in Sosua. But it never resulted in a conflict. I don't even get upset. The chica has always left with (some) money and I just move on to the next prostitute. I can make more money. I cannot make more time.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2923319]Not even mentioning that threesomes are ridiculously overrated unless the girls are really into each other AND you. But that's not a project on a virgin voyage.[/QUOTE]Well this is your opinion. But the way you set up a good threesome is to let the girl that you are already comfortable with pick the other girl. That has worked for me, right in Sousa. They were bisexual and ate each others pussy while I watched. I fucked them doggy style while they ate each others pussy. Then they let me cum on their faces together while they kissed. It was an OUTSTANDING experience. But to each their own. I would like to add this threesome occurred in my room without a problem. Because I knew the girl that set the threesome up and she brought the third girl.

[B]Shout out to the amazing Mr. T. Your recommendations always deliver in a superior fashion[/B] You are a true gentleman among a bunch of critical mother fuckers up in here. Hat Tip!

Yes, I know not everyone cannot nor want to be me. But if you put the work in you can get what you want in Sosua. That is if you are not one of those broke, busted cheap mother fuckers that ain't got 2 DOP to rub together. If that is how you are rolling my brothers, stay at home and make some mother fucking money before you take your trip. [B]SHIT[/B].

[B]How you like me now[/B]?

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2923447]

Colombia has people of various colors who are mostly loving and gracious people. Yet they have so many criminals and hustlers and criminal armed groups. Wonder why? [/QUOTE]Colombia's leftists should get smart and ship whatever scum they have around off to the USA like everyone else. .

Quick reality check, even though this site isn't about Colombian law and politics, in the interest of sharing accurate and valid information it's worth considering that a prostitution ban would require a constitutional amendment and congressional ratification. Local and state politicians (governer and mayor) can issue temporary decrees like the one that banned prostitution and curtailed operating hours of certain businesses in and around Parque Lleras. That is not nearly the same thing as a legally enforceable ban. Even that temporary ban caused sex worker advocacy groups to mount noisy protests. So the prospect of a legal prohibition is highly unlikely at best. I think punters who have been in Lleras recently would back me up that there are girls and bars in action. Also, Colombia's reputation ship sailed years ago. Not many people around the world are going to be shocked to hear Colombia associated with drugs, crime, and putas. If anything, the recent politically motivated publicity campaigns reinforced the negative image and added the wrinkle of pedo activity. It is not unusual among the Colombian political class to act in its own short term interest this way without regard for future impact on the citizens. You see it in fiscal policy centered around constant borrowing against labor and taxes that will keep the majority poor for another century or more. The campaign is purely for domestic consumption. It does not exist outside of Colombia, neither does it exist in neighborhoods north of San Diego.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2923287]Post pandemic it's been like this.

This is Sosua 2. 0. The difference is Colombian government won't tolerate gringos making their country look like the Disney of brothels on YouTube or TikTok.

I expect a crash landing soon. I really think they're going to simply ban prostitution in Medellin soon just to legally arrest a ton of gringos and make them look bad.[/QUOTE]

I lived in the city for 7 years and then I decided to travel the world for a year, and I came back to continue my real estate investments in the country, which I do very well in. Theres no limit of guys who will pay high prices for AirBnB's to sleep with a couple 7's that rush them screaming "leche papi leche".

So last night I met an amazing spinner in El Poblado yesterday and we hung out all day and eventually she came back to my place and we did the deed. We had really good chemistry and she didn't want to leave my apartment. We decided to order some food and smoke weed. She started to ask me if I can help her with her studies aka school fees. I said no at first and she started to kiss me intensely. This is only possible because I'm in great shape and I'm fluent in Spanish to be honest. This would not be a common experience for even handsome guys with NO spanish. I give her 100 mil and what she proceeds to show me BLOWS my mind! She starts showing transactions that she's received from guys she's met on dating apps. $50, $100, $120 and even up $200 and she hasn't met any of them except one guy. She is smoking, hot, admittedly but why in the world would you give money to women you're not having sex with? THATS INSANE!! And the way that she talked about them, she didn't say it explicitly but it's clear she had very little respect for them. She even said that she has a picture of her buying groceries that she uses with all of them, but she actually buys clothes and the new iphone. She has a newer iPhone than me. I would never tell a man how to spend his money but man that is pathetic. She swallowed my kids 30 minutes ago and now she's making fun of the guys who give her money.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2925441]I lived in the city for 7 years and then I decided to travel the world for a year, and I came back to continue my real estate investments in the country, which I do very well in. Theres no limit of guys who will pay high prices for AirBnB's to sleep with a couple 7's that rush them screaming "leche papi leche".

So last night I met an amazing spinner in El Poblado yesterday and we hung out all day and eventually she came back to my place and we did the deed. We had really good chemistry and she didn't want to leave my apartment. We decided to order some food and smoke weed. She started to ask me if I can help her with her studies aka school fees. I said no at first and she started to kiss me intensely. This is only possible because I'm in great shape and I'm fluent in Spanish to be honest. This would not be a common experience for even handsome guys with NO spanish. I give her 100 mil and what she proceeds to show me BLOWS my mind! She starts showing transactions that she's received from guys she's met on dating apps. $50, $100, $120 and even up $200 and she hasn't met any of them except one guy. She is smoking, hot, admittedly but why in the world would you give money to women you're not having sex with? THATS INSANE!! And the way that she talked about them, she didn't say it explicitly but it's clear she had very little respect for them. She even said that she has a picture of her buying groceries that she uses with all of them, but she actually buys clothes and the new iphone. She has a newer iPhone than me. I would never tell a man how to spend his money but man that is pathetic. She swallowed my kids 30 minutes ago and now she's making fun of the guys who give her money.[/QUOTE]This so reminds me of an experience I had many years ago in Rio. I met a garota in Solarium and we got along well and hung out a few more times that trip. We kept in touch and next trip she suggested staying with her in her apartment in Copa. I stayed with her 10 days during which I fucked her and her friend day and night for nothing. I stayed at her apartment for free and only paid for some of our food and booze. She showed me messages from guys sending her money from the US and Europe and referred to them as "losers. ".

That was 22 years ago and I will never get the way she spoke of those guys out of my head. I will flat out never send a girl money nor will I pay obviously above-market prices for chicas. I don't expect to get freebies like I did when I was young, but I'm simply not going to pay more than necessary. I could afford to pay every chica I bone 1 or 2 million pesos (Colombia), but I know better.

[URL]https://www.elpais.com.co/judicial/encuentran-sin-vida-al-actor-alex-araya-en-un-apartamento-de-medellin-lo-habrian-drogado-y-robado-2521.html[/URL]

When you don't operate out of a safe house, at least take all precautions you can take.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2925441]She is smoking, hot, admittedly but why in the world would you give money to women you're not having sex with? THATS INSANE!![/QUOTE]Some may even say it is insane to give money to a chick just because you are having sex with her. So she begs you for school money, then shows you all the other guys that are sending her school money too. I guess everybody wants to see her educated.

Then too don't a lot of those girls do cam and sell pictures? The guys could be sending money for that.

Also several board members said they sent chicks money during covid who they had never met before. They did not seem to think it was insane and some of them even said it paid off when they were able to get back into the country. Maybe those guys are kind of prepaying in the same fashion.

It is nothing new for guys to give money to chicks for nothing. This has been going on since the beginning of time. A lot of guys have a soft spot like that. In the Thailand thread another poster just said how he watched some guy hand a chick a brand new iPhone in the gogo bar the other night. When he talked to the chick, she said she never asked for it. The guy just did it. I think he had just laid eyes on her 2 days before.

I wish I could find some pussy that makes me do things like that, but so far in my 52 years I guess I have only had regular old pussy.

One of my barrio chicas that lives in Santo Domingo just informed me that earlier this morning there was an accident on the metro cable línea k in which two cabins hit each other and then one of the cabins fell off the line.

I don't know if anyone was hurt or died.

I looked on minutos30 to confirm it and sure as shit there was an article about it just posted 3 hours ago.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/alcalde-de-medellin-anuncia-medidas-tras-la-caida-del-metrocable/1615477/[/URL]

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2925524]Some may even say it is insane to give money to a chick just because you are having sex with her.

It is nothing new for guys to give money to chicks for nothing. This has been going on since the beginning of time. .[/QUOTE]Big difference between giving her money for having sex with you and giving her money for nothing. I think everyone on here is fine with the first.

Be careful you guys. 29 dead tourists in 2024 alone.

I suspect most were drugged.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2024/06/27/world-news/chilean-actor-alex-araya-found-dead-in-colombia-after-tinder-date-with-two-women/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnnyDh;2925869]Be careful you guys. 29 dead tourists in 2024 alone.

I suspect most were drugged.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2024/06/27/world-news/chilean-actor-alex-araya-found-dead-in-colombia-after-tinder-date-with-two-women/[/URL][/QUOTE]We already know about it. In fact it was mentioned that it's on track to be like 65 per year if the current rate continues. Even this article mentions it as "one tourist per week" being killed in Medellin and over half of those are Americans. There were even 2 US border patrol officers who were drugged and killed in Medellin recently. Be safe out there guys.

[URL]https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-06-24/29-tourist-deaths-trigger-alarm-bells-in-medellin.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2926079]We already know about it. In fact it was mentioned that it's on track to be like 65 per year if the current rate continues. Even this article mentions it as "one tourist per week" being killed in Medellin and over half of those are Americans. There were even 2 US border patrol officers who were drugged and killed in Medellin recently. Be safe out there guys.

[URL]https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-06-24/29-tourist-deaths-trigger-alarm-bells-in-medellin.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't know why but this is such a fascinating topic to me. It's a point that has beaten to death. And most importantly we all have different risk tolerances. Understanding your own risk tolerance is so important because it's totally pointless to make a trip when you have to deal with fear.

My own personal take on these numbers: today, there are 10 flights arriving in MDE from the US. Undoubtedly this does not account for Americans connecting in Panama or other countries. But let's just look at those 10. In my experiences, I'd say that every flight I have made to MDE has at least 60 mongers. I'd say that's a very conservative estimate, based on converstaions I've had and overheard both on the plane and particuarly waiting on the immigration line. Extrapolate that out. If today is an average day, you have maybe 600 American mongers entering MDE daily. That's 219,000 a year. With 65 deaths a year, that means it impacts 0. 03% of mongers. I'm not trying to say there's no risk. Of course there is. But I think about my trips. And I watch American mongers in Parque Lleras or on the streets. What I am very confident of is that I'm not in the 0. 03% of mongers making themselves an easy target.

My point. Yes of course there are risks. And no, our hobby isn't worth your life. But with even just some minimal mitigation of risks, the chances you are going to be killed are very small. And you can argue with my math. But I'd also say that 65 per year deaths also includes some obvious non-monger deaths. They also aren't all Americans. I say that just to point out my calculations are fairly sound and fairly conservative.

I'm not trying to argue or stoke flames in a never ending debate. My only interest is that we make sound decisons. Know your own tolerance. Evaluate the situation. And we'll all make the right decisions for ourselves.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2926095]That's 219,000 a year. With 65 deaths a year, that means it impacts 0. 03% of mongers. I'm not trying to say there's no risk. Of course there is.

[/QUOTE]I haven't done the calculations but I wonder if it makes sense for USAns to go mongering in MDE to reduce their safety risk compared to being in the USA and exposed to mass murders, police beatings, incarceration, death-by-McDonalds-and-Pizza-Hut, lack of public healthcare etc. Any takers?

Is mongering only available in MDE? I don't think so. LOL. There are so many safe places in Colombia. I pick Colombia any day.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2926186]I haven't done the calculations but I wonder if it makes sense for USAns to go mongering in MDE to reduce their safety risk compared to being in the USA and exposed to mass murders, police beatings, incarceration, death-by-McDonalds-and-Pizza-Hut, lack of public healthcare etc. Any takers?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2926261]There are so many safe places in Colombia. [/QUOTE]Such as? Certainly not any of the major cities.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2926095]I don't know why but this is such a fascinating topic to me. It's a point that has beaten to death. And most importantly we all have different risk tolerances. Understanding your own risk tolerance is so important because it's totally pointless to make a trip when you have to deal with fear.

My own personal take on these numbers: today, there are 10 flights arriving in MDE from the US. Undoubtedly this does not account for Americans connecting in Panama or other countries. But let's just look at those 10. In my experiences, I'd say that every flight I have made to MDE has at least 60 mongers. I'd say that's a very conservative estimate, based on converstaions I've had and overheard both on the plane and particuarly waiting on the immigration line. Extrapolate that out. If today is an average day, you have maybe 600 American mongers entering MDE daily. That's 219,000 a year. With 65 deaths a year, that means it impacts 0. 03% of mongers. I'm not trying to say there's no risk. Of course there is. But I think about my trips. And I watch American mongers in Parque Lleras or on the streets. What I am very confident of is that I'm not in the 0. 03% of mongers making themselves an easy target.

My point. Yes of course there are risks. And no, our hobby isn't worth your life. But with even just some minimal mitigation of risks, the chances you are going to be killed are very small. And you can argue with my math. But I'd also say that 65 per year deaths also includes some obvious non-monger deaths. They also aren't all Americans. I say that just to point out my calculations are fairly sound and fairly conservative.

I'm not trying to argue or stoke flames in a never ending debate. My only interest is that we make sound decisons. Know your own tolerance. Evaluate the situation. And we'll all make the right decisions for ourselves.[/QUOTE]My take on risk in Medellin is based on my experiences there. I've had some minor crimes. Pickpocketed and extorted by "false" police. But neither of those were serious in terms of physical risk. But of the perhaps 50 people I have met that were either visiting there, or lived there, I would say at least half have been drugged, robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint, or been victims of some sort of crime. And these are not stupid weekend warriors, they include many that speak Spanish, are aware of their surroundings, etc. So to me it is a high risk place. None of these, to the best of my knowledge, have been murdered. But the murder stats are the tip of the iceberg, those are the robberies or druggings that have gone wrong generally. So the chances of someone trying something are, in my opinion, high. The chances of it injuring you may depend on how it goes. But of guys that have been drugged, in particular, many never report it because they don't want complications back home, or publicity, or they blame themselves and feel sheepish about it. So who knows what the real numbers are. But it stretches my comfort zone. Having said that the casas are pretty safe, strip clubs (when you are in them) pretty safe, and perhaps Facebook girls that you have had on as friends for a number of years who have regular looking Facebook accounts.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2926286]My take on risk in Medellin is based on my experiences there. I've had some minor crimes. Pickpocketed and extorted by "false" police. But neither of those were serious in terms of physical risk. But of the perhaps 50 people I have met that were either visiting there, or lived there, I would say at least half have been drugged, robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint, or been victims of some sort of crime. And these are not stupid weekend warriors, they include many that speak Spanish, are aware of their surroundings, etc. So to me it is a high risk place. None of these, to the best of my knowledge, have been murdered. But the murder stats are the tip of the iceberg, those are the robberies or druggings that have gone wrong generally. So the chances of someone trying something are, in my opinion, high. The chances of it injuring you may depend on how it goes. But of guys that have been drugged, in particular, many never report it because they don't want complications back home, or publicity, or they blame themselves and feel sheepish about it. So who knows what the real numbers are. But it stretches my comfort zone. Having said that the casas are pretty safe, strip clubs (when you are in them) pretty safe, and perhaps Facebook girls that you have had on as friends for a number of years who have regular looking Facebook accounts.[/QUOTE]Care to elaborate on the time you were extorted by "false" police?

Were these actual false police in the sense that they weren't police at all but just some random guys wearing a police uniforms and acting as if they were the police and then demanding money? Or were they real police officers who were corrupt and threatening you with jail unless if you paid them?

Find out for yourself papacito!!

[QUOTE=Huacho;2926271]Such as? Certainly not any of the major cities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2926261]Is mongering only available in MDE? I don't think so. LOL. There are so many safe places in Colombia. I pick Colombia any day.[/QUOTE]I'm discovering different cities in Colombia and getting off the beaten path sometimes. The midsized cities offer a more tranquil laid back feel and the people there are pretty good. One day I want to check out Monteria, Sincelejo, Tunja, Valledupar, Popayan, Pastor, Ibaque and other cities like that. So many people go to Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota over and over again and that's all they know. They have no idea what Colombia is all about and many are biased.

Now that's what I'm talking about. All people have to do go explore instead of simping these hoes.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2926427]I'm discovering different cities in Colombia and getting off the beaten path sometimes. The midsized cities offer a more tranquil laid back feel and the people there are pretty good. One day I want to check out Monteria, Sincelejo, Tunja, Valledupar, Popayan, Pastor, Ibaque and other cities like that. So many people go to Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota over and over again and that's all they know. They have no idea what Colombia is all about and many are biased.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2926621] All people have to do go explore instead of simping these hoes.[/QUOTE]Exactly bro! I recently have been discovering the Coffee Region of Colombia in the cities of Pereira, Manizales and Armenia. I love the change of pace and tranquility. It also is a very beautiful area of the country. The weather is almost perfect and the people are very friendly. For example, Valle de Cocora is a magnificent place along with the nearby pueblo of Salento. Anybody that says the smaller cities and towns are boring is because all they probably do is chase hoes and flush money down the toilet. Many guys, not all, don't give a damn about Colombian culture or traditions. They could care less. Their whole life is consumed with drugs, alcohol, women and bad decisions. If anyone takes offense to this post then I'm probably talking about you.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2926665]Exactly bro! I recently have been discovering the Coffee Region of Colombia in the cities of Pereira, Manizales and Armenia. I love the change of pace and tranquility. It also is a very beautiful area of the country. The weather is almost perfect and the people are very friendly. For example, Valle de Cocora is a magnificent place along with the nearby pueblo of Salento. Anybody that says the smaller cities and towns are boring is because all they probably do is chase hoes and flush money down the toilet. Many guys, not all, don't give a damn about Colombian culture or traditions. They could care less. Their whole life is consumed with drugs, alcohol, women and bad decisions. If anyone takes offense to this post then I'm probably talking about you.[/QUOTE]I agree w you. The last couple of years I've made Pereira my base of operations. It's a nice / friendly easy going / safe mid size town. And has a number of monger options as well. Plus the food. I also go to Cali for a couple of days as well. And lately I've been taking the bus to Armenia. Another friendly / safe mid size town w monger options as well. Never been to Manizales yet. I like the atmosphere in these places.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2926286]My take on risk in Medellin is based on my experiences there. I've had some minor crimes. Pickpocketed and extorted by "false" police. But neither of those were serious in terms of physical risk. But of the perhaps 50 people I have met that were either visiting there, or lived there, I would say at least half have been drugged, robbed at knifepoint or gunpoint, or been victims of some sort of crime. And these are not stupid weekend warriors, they include many that speak Spanish, are aware of their surroundings, etc. So to me it is a high risk place. None of these, to the best of my knowledge, have been murdered. But the murder stats are the tip of the iceberg, those are the robberies or druggings that have gone wrong generally. So the chances of someone trying something are, in my opinion, high. The chances of it injuring you may depend on how it goes. But of guys that have been drugged, in particular, many never report it because they don't want complications back home, or publicity, or they blame themselves and feel sheepish about it. So who knows what the real numbers are. But it stretches my comfort zone. Having said that the casas are pretty safe, strip clubs (when you are in them) pretty safe, and perhaps Facebook girls that you have had on as friends for a number of years who have regular looking Facebook accounts.[/QUOTE]This is a very fair counter argument. Especially the underreported aspect. But man, 50% of your known compatriots? I'm not doubting you! Like you, I can only rely on my own experiences. I guess in my 20+ trips to MDE, I'd say I've met and befriended 30-40 fellow mongers. At least friendly enough to share stories and discuss safety. I've only heard of one actual crime, and that was a pickpocketing. (And boy was that a story of what not to do. A girl pickpocketed his cell phone. He chased her down, confronted her, etc. But that's another story!

So am I biased towards the "safe" argument? Probably. And it is interesting how different our experiences are. As I said, my math is only valid for reported deaths. There are certainly undesirable fates less than death, so you have a fair argument. But I still think the numbers are HEAVILY in our favor with minimal mitigation steps.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2926290]Care to elaborate on the time you were extorted by "false" police?

Were these actual false police in the sense that they weren't police at all but just some random guys wearing a police uniforms and acting as if they were the police and then demanding money? Or were they real police officers who were corrupt and threatening you with jail unless if you paid them?[/QUOTE]I doubt they were actual police. But good actors. Chatting away with the one guy, talking about some construction across the street. Then he tells me he is undercover investigating something, and eventually that he wants to talk to me about it. Showed me some sort of ID, fake no doubt, and I started to get doubts when he was asking me about money. By then his buddy had come into the conversation, also with ID in his wallet. Anyway. So they had to see my money for some BS reason, and then the one guy just walked away with it. They had radios, etc. But when the guy started to walk I yelled, and the other guy ran a different direction. So they got a couple of hundred mil pesos and I felt pretty stupid about it after I talked to the real police.

And this all happened a block from Lleras and in one of the few areas that didn't have video camera coverage. According to the real police.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2926850]I agree w you. The last couple of years I've made Pereira my base of operations. It's a nice / friendly easy going / safe mid size town. And has a number of monger options as well. Plus the food. I also go to Cali for a couple of days as well. And lately I've been taking the bus to Armenia. Another friendly / safe mid size town w monger options as well. Never been to Manizales yet. I like the atmosphere in these places.[/QUOTE]All my local colombian friends tell me to avoid Cali.

I'm wondering now if its just like all the reports telling me to avoid medellin.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2926913]All my local colombian friends tell me to avoid Cali.

I'm wondering now if its just like all the reports telling me to avoid medellin.[/QUOTE]I've been to Cali 15 times. Never been robbed or hassled or anything bad. I usually stay in the Granada area most of the time. That's north of the Cali river, a more upscale part of town. Lots of restaurants around there. For sexo I go to the San Nicholas area. Usually to Bar La 20, and Son Sonero. And the streets around there.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2926913]All my local colombian friends tell me to avoid Cali.[/QUOTE]Why do they say to avoid Cali? I have been going there almost 20 years and do not really see a reason to avoid it. Unless maybe you do not speak Spanish and are looking for more of a tourist vacation spot.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2926910]I doubt they were actual police. But good actors. Chatting away with the one guy, talking about some construction across the street. Then he tells me he is undercover investigating something, and eventually that he wants to talk to me about it. Showed me some sort of ID, fake no doubt, and I started to get doubts when he was asking me about money. By then his buddy had come into the conversation, also with ID in his wallet...[/QUOTE]I had a very similar experience years ago in Patio Bonito. I was out for a morning walk when a guy stopped me. I spoke very, very little Spanish. He showed me some type of ID in his wallet that he said was police ID. Then his buddy showed up. They asked how much money I had. I reached in my pocket and pulled out all I had, coins and all, which was less than 10 mil. The buddy then opened his wallet and showed me a US bill, I think it was $50, and asked if I had any of those. I told him no. After some more discussion, they wrote an address on a piece of paper and said that was the police substation and I needed to report there later that day. I walked away and never went to that address. On another occasion, a guy stopped me near the Viva Exito in Laureles. He spoke some English. He started with just a conversation, then it turned to the same thing. As soon as he showed me the ID in his wallet, I told him I had things to do and walked away. All three of those wore plain clothes.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2926850]I agree w you. The last couple of years I've made Pereira my base of operations. It's a nice / friendly easy going / safe mid size town. And has a number of monger options as well. Plus the food. I also go to Cali for a couple of days as well. And lately I've been taking the bus to Armenia. Another friendly / safe mid size town w monger options as well. Never been to Manizales yet. I like the atmosphere in these places.[/QUOTE]I have also taken the bus from Pereira to Armenia a few times. I use the company called TransArmenia / TransportesArmenia. They will get you to Armenia for about 11 k COP. I also use the same bus company from Pereira to Manizales. When you get to the Main Terminal Transportes in Manizales you can take the cable car up the mountains to el centro. You can start out at nearby Parque Caldas and the Caldas Mall across the street. It's a pretty lively area with things to do and see.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2926932]I've been to Cali 15 times. Never been robbed or hassled or anything bad. I usually stay in the Granada area most of the time. That's north of the Cali river, a more upscale part of town. Lots of restaurants around there. For sexo I go to the San Nicholas area. Usually to Bar La 20, and Son Sonero. And the streets around there.[/QUOTE]When I was in Cali I also stayed in the Granada neighborhood on Avenida 9 right down from Container Park / Plazoleta de Comidas. It a complex with a lot of food choices inside. Pretty decent selection. Cali was the first place that I tried Chonta Duro con sal, limon why miel even though I had been seeing it in Colombia for years. I'm not a fan. It doesn't look like the way it taste. I didn't have any problems while in Cali and I walked around at night. Nobody ever warned me about the fangers of going to Cali but instead I was told about the many curvy morenas, darker skinned chicas and the love of Salsa dancing there.

[QUOTE=BayBoy]Why do they say to avoid Cali? I have been going there almost 20 years and do not really see a reason to avoid it. Unless maybe you do not speak Spanish and are looking for more of a tourist vacation spot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2926944]I've been to Cali 15 times. Never been robbed or hassled or anything bad. I usually stay in the Granada area most of the time. That's north of the Cali river, a more upscale part of town. Lots of restaurants around there. For sexo I go to the San Nicholas area. Usually to Bar La 20, and Son Sonero. And the streets around there.[/QUOTE]I don't speak spanish but they tell me its very dangerous with cartel activity. Actually my one friend's extended family who does work for home for a big tech company in america moved down to Cali (hes colombian) even he told me not to come to Cali and just go to medellin. I don't know if that's just a danger thing or what. Anyway. Now I feel like I should check out Cali.

Is Cali Bogota?

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2927184]I don't speak spanish but they tell me its very dangerous with cartel activity. Actually my one friend's extended family who does work for home for a big tech company in america moved down to Cali (hes colombian) even he told me not to come to Cali and just go to medellin. I don't know if that's just a danger thing or what. Anyway. Now I feel like I should check out Cali.

Is Cali Bogota?[/QUOTE]Is New York LOS Angeles?

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2927459]Is New York LOS Angeles?[/QUOTE]Oops I think the symbol didn't come out.

I meant to type.

Is Cali GREATER / better than bogata in your opinion (your being general forum opinion).

I guess Checkmig is a thing of the past. Last time I did not do it and nobody said anything. This time I tried to do it and it let me do a couple of screens of info before finally saying bad gateway. Did the same on my phone and laptop. Nobody said anything about it on either end. The immigration guy just said Hello, scanned my passport, stamped it, then gave it back.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2928819]I guess Checkmig is a thing of the past. Last time I did not do it and nobody said anything. This time I tried to do it and it let me do a couple of screens of info before finally saying bad gateway. Did the same on my phone and laptop. Nobody said anything about it on either end. The immigration guy just said Hello, scanned my passport, stamped it, then gave it back.[/QUOTE]The only way I have gotten Check-Mig to work is by putting in all the information in Spanish. If I use English or Frequent Traveler, I get the bad gateway message. They do collect the information because the last time I arrived, I offered the agent my local address and he said it was already in the system. I was staying at a different place, so the address had not been put in on a previous trip. Anyhow, less than 30 seconds with the agent.

CheckMig is working for me. I was able to log on just now.

I went to Medellin in late May on United Airlines from Newark and I was asked for the CheckMig form.

When you go thru immigration in Medellin, they will electronically see if you have registered when you hand over your passport.

On the way back in early June, I filled out the form but was not asked for it at the Medellin airport. I asked the flight check-in about that and she told me they now see it electronically.

Best to ask the airlines if there is any doubt and not make assumptions that you don't need it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2928819]I guess Checkmig is a thing of the past. Last time I did not do it and nobody said anything. This time I tried to do it and it let me do a couple of screens of info before finally saying bad gateway. Did the same on my phone and laptop. Nobody said anything about it on either end. The immigration guy just said Hello, scanned my passport, stamped it, then gave it back.[/QUOTE]

Apologies if I should be posting this somewhere else. I tried finding the information and couldn't.

1) Are they still checking phones in immigration?

2) has anyone used an eSIM? I am thinking of getting a SIM from the airport. Is there a waiting period for the SIM to be active?

3) I am going to stay in a hotel in Poblado. The plan is to get 2 girls to the room everyday. We are there for 3 days. When I booked the room, I booked it for 2 guests. Will the hotel create a stink if I am getting multiple people? The hotel is Hampton inn in Poblado.

4) At this point I have lined up a bunch of dates with girls I have met on seeking. I don't fuck SW's or escorts. Just my thing.

So today when I went through the immigration line, I asked the officer if Checkmig was no longer needed. He said that everyone still needs to complete it. Funny thing is that I do not remember the last time I did it. Definitely did not do it today.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2932470]So today when I went through the immigration line, I asked the officer if Checkmig was no longer needed. He said that everyone still needs to complete it. Funny thing is that I do not remember the last time I did it. Definitely did not do it today.[/QUOTE]I flew out of Colombia yesterday and it was the first time that I was not asked for it. I will continue to do it just because it takes five minutes to complete and I don't want to end up doing it on the fly using my phone on the chance that they do ask for it.

[QUOTE=Aaragon2022;2930131]Apologies if I should be posting this somewhere else. I tried finding the information and couldn't.

1) Are they still checking phones in immigration?

2) has anyone used an eSIM? I am thinking of getting a SIM from the airport. Is there a waiting period for the SIM to be active?

3) I am going to stay in a hotel in Poblado. The plan is to get 2 girls to the room everyday. We are there for 3 days. When I booked the room, I booked it for 2 guests. Will the hotel create a stink if I am getting multiple people? The hotel is Hampton inn in Poblado.

4) At this point I have lined up a bunch of dates with girls I have met on seeking. I don't fuck SW's or escorts. Just my thing.[/QUOTE]Checking phones? For what?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2932606]I flew out of Colombia yesterday and it was the first time that I was not asked for it. I will continue to do it just because it takes five minutes to complete and I don't want to end up doing it on the fly using my phone on the chance that they do ask for it.[/QUOTE]I've still been doing it as someone said to avoid scrambling to do it last minute. On my outbound flight from the states it seems to depend on the airline. Latam, never mentioned it, Delta just asked off and on if I did it and Spirit was adamant that I show them a completed Check mig. In.

My 6 trips this year no one in Bogota has even mentioned it.

This is really so simple. People keep saying that when at the airport in route to Colombia sometimes they ask for it and sometimes they don't. The truth is it does not matter what they say at the airport. You need the form completed and that is all you need to know. Because in Colombia if you did not do the form than you have a big problem.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2936993]This is really so simple. People keep saying that when at the airport in route to Colombia sometimes they ask for it and sometimes they don't. The truth is it does not matter what they say at the airport. You need the form completed and that is all you need to know. [b]Because in Colombia if you did not do the form than you have a big problem[/b].[/QUOTE]No you don't. They will just tell you to go to the side and fill it out. It is an immigration form. And like I said, I have not done it in a few visits and nobody has said anything. After not filling it out I even asked immigration if it was required. He said yes then stamped my passport and said see you next time.

Hi guys,

I have been to Medellin many times but this is the first time I do not have a ride from the airport to my hotel. Is there a recommended service to call for a airport pick up or should I just take one of the guys who hound you when you come out of customs. Generally when I have a ride I pay them 30-35 usd. Does anyone know the going rate for a airport taxi. I will be going to downtown Poblado to a Airbnb next to Santa Fe mall. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Skeif;2938765]Hi guys,

I have been to Medellin many times but this is the first time I do not have a ride from the airport to my hotel. Is there a recommended service to call for a airport pick up or should I just take one of the guys who hound you when you come out of customs. Generally when I have a ride I pay them 30-35 usd. Does anyone know the going rate for a airport taxi. I will be going to downtown Poblado to a Airbnb next to Santa Fe mall. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]110 K. Go to the ATM at the airport, and get pesos for the cab.

[QUOTE=Skeif;2938765]Hi guys,

I have been to Medellin many times but this is the first time I do not have a ride from the airport to my hotel. Is there a recommended service to call for a airport pick up or should I just take one of the guys who hound you when you come out of customs. Generally when I have a ride I pay them 30-35 usd. Does anyone know the going rate for a airport taxi. I will be going to downtown Poblado to a Airbnb next to Santa Fe mall. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I take the bus to San Diego mall and then a cab. Just make sure to take the San Diego minibus and not the one that goes to downtown by Nutibara. Even at night there are always cabs at San Diego mall, up to 9 PM / 21:00 or so.

For anyone in Colombia who uses dollars to get money from an ATM, today and tomorrow are good days to withdraw. The ATM rate today is 4285. It will be about the same tomorrow, then it will drop to about 4200 on the weekend and Monday.

Get it while it is hot!

Bogota, Sept 16 (Reuters) - Colombian startup Rappi, which is backed by Japan's SoftBank (9984. T), opens new tab, could be ready to launch an initial public offering on the New York Stock Exchange within 12 months, cofounder Simon Borrero said on Monday.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-rappi-could-be-ready-ipo-12-months-cofounder-says-2024-09-16/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2945646]Get it while it is hot!

Bogota, Sept 16 (Reuters) - Colombian startup Rappi, which is backed by Japan's SoftBank (9984. T), opens new tab, could be ready to launch an initial public offering on the New York Stock Exchange within 12 months, cofounder Simon Borrero said on Monday.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-rappi-could-be-ready-ipo-12-months-cofounder-says-2024-09-16/[/URL][/QUOTE]I gave up on Rappi as did my gal. We started using Didi for rides over Uber, and it was way faster. Then I tried Didi Food, and it too was way better than Rappi.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2946046]I gave up on Rappi as did my gal. We started using Didi for rides over Uber, and it was way faster. Then I tried Didi Food, and it too was way better than Rappi.[/QUOTE]Well hell, I have not been able to get my Rappi account to work for years and the help people are no help at all.

In two weeks four associates will travel into CTG airport and stay at an AirBnB within the walled city. Arrival time should be between 3:00 PM and 4:00 PM on Sunday. Any information from seasoned travelers to CTG will be appreciated.

1. It appears CTG airport is about four miles from the walled city, so does one take an Uber, Taxi, etc? (While in other countries, we have used a variety of services).

2. What is the cost for transportation from the airport to the walled city? Are there any hidden fees such as luggage fees like they try to charge in Thailand?

3. Where is a good money exchange located in the inner walls? Some members highly recommend exchanging some money in the airport to pay for the taxi, but in past experiences the airport vendors do NOT offer good exchange rates.

4. What would you recommend for daytime activities in the walled city? We are only there for a few days and can't go too far away.

Thanks for any information you provide.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2952574]It appears CTG airport is about four miles from the walled city, so does one take an Uber, Taxi, etc? (While in other countries, we have used a variety of services).

2. What is the cost for transportation from the airport to the walled city?[/QUOTE]Use the Indrive app. It should not be more than 10,000 pesos. It only cost me 12,000 to go to Laguito from the airport. But cars in Colombia are small, so it may be better to get 2 cars for 4 people with luggage.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2952574]Where is a good money exchange located in the inner walls? [/QUOTE]Why not use the ATM? Don't think I have ever exchanged money in Colombia in the last 20 years when there have been perfectly good ATMs around (besides BanColombia-don't use that one!

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2952574]In two weeks four associates will travel into CTG airport and stay at an AirBnB within the walled city. Arrival time should be between 3:00 PM and 4:00 PM on Sunday. Any information from seasoned travelers to CTG will be appreciated.

1. It appears CTG airport is about four miles from the walled city, so does one take an Uber, Taxi, etc? (While in other countries, we have used a variety of services).

2. What is the cost for transportation from the airport to the walled city? Are there any hidden fees such as luggage fees like they try to charge in Thailand?

3. Where is a good money exchange located in the inner walls? Some members highly recommend exchanging some money in the airport to pay for the taxi, but in past experiences the airport vendors do NOT offer good exchange rates.[/QUOTE]It would have been best to ask this in the CTG thread instead of the General thread since its CTG specific.

But to answer your questions:

1. Uber works just make sure the credit card on the account does not have foreign transaction fees. Apple Card does not work with Uber in CTG.

2. Cost of transportation will depend on size of vehicle. If all 4 of your associates and their luggage can fit into one of those small Taxis then its normal charge. I believe its 30 mil but I have not taken a taxi in a long time. I use Uber to avoid the nonsense of them not having change for 50 mil or 20 mil when its a 8 mil ride.

3. Never exchange at the Airport. Best place I've found to exchange money is in Getsemani. Here are 3 locations [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Fn59duK4NaFR4T169[/URL] . All places in Centro will give you less and there are many. Never exchange your money on the street, they will give you fake money.

4. There are little to no daytime activates inside the wall city unless you want to walk around and look at buildings or eat food. There is the castle right outside the walls for sightseeing, but I would suggest day trips to an island the trips are from 8 am - 4 pm. You can also visit the mud volcano. The beaches on the mainland at BocaGrande, El Laguito and Marbella are there but I would not recommend them unless you like constantly being harassed to buy things. Getsemani is there if you like street food or art but again you will be harassed.

The first day will be wasted so I would not even try to plan anything for the daytime because by the time your associates arrive to the AirBB and check in it will be about 4 or 5 pm and everyone will be hungry, tired or want to shower. Plan for night time activities on the first day. On the second day I would suggest a day tour of the wall city, they have segway, bile, scooter, and walking. Pick the best one that will show you everything including Getsemani and the Castle San Felepie. Then you can return to those areas on your own free time to explore more in the daytime.

Also looks like your associates are going to be there during or close to Halloween. I not going to bore you with the usual stuff of asking the price before ordering, take pictures of menus before ordering, keep track of what you ordered, etc.

Don't let them become another story of getting robbed or scoped. Have a safe trip, No dar Papaya.

Thanks for all your assistance; it's greatly appreciated. We will look into using ATM's in Colombia and ensure the banks know we are traveling there. I didn't realize a CTG thread exists, but plan to search it. Two of my fellow travelers like to scuba dive, but I told them they were responsible for finding all the information concerning scuba diving. One also asked if scooter rental is possible (he has an international and motorcycle license).

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2952836]Two of my fellow travelers like to scuba dive, but I told them they were responsible for finding all the information concerning scuba diving.[/QUOTE]I am a master scuba diver and got my first certification in Colombia. Taganga, Santa Marta. It is a good place for beginners and a good place to get certifications because it is so cheap. I would not go expecting to see many interesting things though. But to add it to your logbook then of course.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2952836]Thanks for all your assistance; it's greatly appreciated. We will look into using ATM's in Colombia and ensure the banks know we are traveling there. I didn't realize a CTG thread exists, but plan to search it. Two of my fellow travelers like to scuba dive, but I told them they were responsible for finding all the information concerning scuba diving. One also asked if scooter rental is possible (he has an international and motorcycle license).[/QUOTE]Is this your first trip to Colombia and / or Cartagena?

Scuba diving is best at the San Andres Island (requires flying). I've done it a few times, problem is the limitation of the danger flying within 12 hours before diving and within 12 after diving if your associates are only there for a few days it will be very tight timing to dive between arrival and departure.

Scooter rental is possible but I would highly advise against it. The roads are crowded, people drive worse than Bangkok, traffic is a nightmare. Roads are not that great as there are many potholes. Accidents are a thing as there are no traffic lights inside the walls, there are only traffic lights on the main roads outside the walls. Also I don't know if they are still doing Pico why Placa where you can only drive during peak hours on certain days if the plate number is even or odd. And the biggest issue will be parking.

It will be cheaper to take Uber, remember 50 mil is about $10 a ride anywhere from the wall city to El Laguito will be 10 mil in the day and up to 15 mil at night. Oh yea that's another thing, avoid yellow taxis, prices magically increase at nighttime, and they will set you up to get robbed by friends or extorted by the police.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2952886]Is this your first trip to Colombia and / or Cartagena?
... problem is the limitation of the danger flying within 12 hours before diving and within 12 after diving ... [/QUOTE]This is quite true, but even more dangerous is diving after spending some time in Bogota. The altitude / air pressure in Bogota (2640 masl / 75 kPa) is actually higher than most commerical flights cabin pressure (1,800 to 2,400 m / 800 kPa). Not just the absolute air pressure difference but your body can acclimatize to that altitude quickly. For me, I acclimatize to Bogota within 12 to 36 hours, but for some it can take 4 days or more. There are very few flights 12+ hours.

I don't know enough of Scuba / pressure, but it seems that would be a bigger danger.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2952851]I am a master scuba diver and got my first certification in Colombia. Taganga, Santa Marta. It is a good place for beginners and a good place to get certifications because it is so cheap. I would not go expecting to see many interesting things though. But to add it to your logbook then of course.[/QUOTE]I've been to Taganga. In 2021 I took this Venezuelan chick reina to Santa Marta and we stayed a week there and on one of the days we took the local bus to taganga and then the lancha to playa grande (which wasn't very grande). We had an excellent almuerzo there fried fish and rice with soup and some coco loco drinks. We also went swimming and the water was crystal clear you could see little tropical fish in the water and the weather was perfect too. I also bought some little indigenous hand carved stone statues from a local that was there selling them. I still have them in my apartment in Medellin. I'll never forget that experience it was amazing.

-Gabacho.

Thanks for the information on avoiding yellow taxis inside the walled city. In many places the yellow taxis seem to have questionable reputations, including Tijuana and Bangkok. Should we also avoid taxis from CTG airport to the walled city in favor of Uber?

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2954681]Should we also avoid taxis from CTG airport to the walled city in favor of Uber?[/QUOTE]I have already answered this for you a few posts down.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2954681]Thanks for the information on avoiding yellow taxis inside the walled city. In many places the yellow taxis seem to have questionable reputations, including Tijuana and Bangkok. Should we also avoid taxis from CTG airport to the walled city in favor of Uber?[/QUOTE]No, there is no reason in most cases. Take a printout with your rate to your destination within the city. The rates are regulated by the municipality and are very affordable. You can access and download the rates from the alcaldia (municipality). You can't take a yellow cab out of the city limits.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2954681]Thanks for the information on avoiding yellow taxis inside the walled city. In many places the yellow taxis seem to have questionable reputations, including Tijuana and Bangkok. Should we also avoid taxis from CTG airport to the walled city in favor of Uber?[/QUOTE]Use Uber or DiDi.

You do not want to be arguing over them not having change, getting lost, suddenly increasing the price, take you to a checkpoint to get extorted by the police, or worse taking you for the million-dollar ride where they stop somewhere, and others get in the taxi to rob you. They will make a wrong turn in Crespo and you will be relieved of your items. Crespo may look safe but its not, same as Marbella and Getsemani. The police presence is not there to deter opportunistic thieves.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2954681]Thanks for the information on avoiding yellow taxis inside the walled city. In many places the yellow taxis seem to have questionable reputations, including Tijuana and Bangkok. Should we also avoid taxis from CTG airport to the walled city in favor of Uber?[/QUOTE]If you are inside the walled city and going to somewhere in the walled city, it may be difficult to find an uber or didi. And even some yellow taxi may refuse the ride. It is probably a relatively short distance, just walk it. If you are going into or outside the walled city, then yes. Didi or Uber.

Yellow taxis are +95% safe. But 95% is still to high a risk for many, especially if you don't speak Spanish.

If you DO speak Spanish at all and find yourself in an uber / didi / cab that is even a little bit sketchy, call a friend (or pretend to) and tell them you are on the way now and will be there in x minutes, that you are in a (describe car) with plate number. And / or "I will share my location with you". It is a tactic used for security by many Colombians. Important to talk to your real or imaginary friend. It's the driver knowing that others know your wearabouts.

I think this is true for taxis / uber globally. CTG is driven by tourism much more so than any other city in Colombia. This has both more people doing scams and better police reaction if something goes wrong. The booths labeled "CAI" in parks and other public areas stand for Comando de Atención Inmediata (Immediate Attention Command). They are small police stations or booths used by the National Police of Colombia to provide quick responses to emergencies and offer security in various neighborhoods. CAIs are strategically located in parks, plazas, and busy public spaces to maintain a visible law enforcement presence and ensure public safety.

My brother and I are planning our first trip to Colombia in March. I wanted to do Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, but he doesn't like traveling a lot, so I have to pick one city. If you could only visit one, which would you choose?

Just withdrew some money and the receipt showed a 26000 COP Access fee. This fee was not disclosed before making the withdrawal. I no longer recommend them. I think they were the only ones to offer free withdrawals.

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2954925]My brother and I are planning our first trip to Colombia in March. I wanted to do Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, but he doesn't like traveling a lot, so I have to pick one city. If you could only visit one, which would you choose?[/QUOTE]What did your research tell you?

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2954925]My brother and I are planning our first trip to Colombia in March. I wanted to do Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, but he doesn't like traveling a lot, so I have to pick one city. If you could only visit one, which would you choose?[/QUOTE]What did your research come up with?

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2955352]Just withdrew some money and the receipt showed a 26000 COP Access fee. This fee was not disclosed before making the withdrawal. I no longer recommend them. I think they were the only ones to offer free withdrawals.[/QUOTE]Davienda has been charging a fee for almost a year, but it has been 15 mil per transaction. Most of their ATM's show the fee, but it's in an area I don't read closely. I think it's at the top of the screen that shows the exchange rate if you accept their rate.

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2954925]My brother and I are planning our first trip to Colombia in March. I wanted to do Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, but he doesn't like traveling a lot, so I have to pick one city. If you could only visit one, which would you choose?[/QUOTE]Bogotá never get warmer than 70 degrees, and can be chilly in the morning. Also the city is known for its rainfall.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955399]Davienda has been charging a fee for almost a year, but it has been 15 mil per transaction. Most of their ATM's show the fee, but it's in an area I don't read closely. I think it's at the top of the screen that shows the exchange rate if you accept their rate.[/QUOTE]Also depending in what bank issued his debit card, the fee charged csn be different than what others pay. Remember for the longest I wasn't getting a fee with BBVA with my capital one card while others with different cards were.

Also the limits csn be affected by which bank he had too. Davivienda would always let me take out up to 2 millones but some people report that they get a smaller limit around 400 k.

So I think it matters what bank your card is from and the fees as well as the withdrawal limits can be different amounts for different people.

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2954925]My brother and I are planning our first trip to Colombia in March. I wanted to do Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, but he doesn't like traveling a lot, so I have to pick one city. If you could only visit one, which would you choose?[/QUOTE]For me, Barranquilla, but that is not on your list. Next one I would pick is Bogota. But my motives may not be the same as yours. Nobody knows what you like, your goals, or objective. So asking someone which one they would chose, you may get an answer back which could be the last one you would choose.

I don't have an opinion but BOG is not very good weather, CTG is hot as fuck, MDE rains some but you have to deal with the rain making bruthas and shit.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955399]Davienda has been charging a fee for almost a year, but it has been 15 mil per transaction. Most of their ATM's show the fee, but it's in an area I don't read closely. I think it's at the top of the screen that shows the exchange rate if you accept their rate.[/QUOTE]They just changed it to 26 mil per transaction. Good thing to have Schwab or Fidelity or one of the card companies that reimburses the fees.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2955570]I don't have an opinion but BOG is not very good weather, CTG is hot as fuck, MDE rains some but you have to deal with the rain making bruthas and shit.[/QUOTE]What about the women (looks, prices, quantity, attitude, etc.) in these places?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2955576]They just changed it to 26 mil per transaction. Good thing to have Schwab or Fidelity or one of the card companies that reimburses the fees.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I wonder how long it will be until those card issuers stop reimbursing or put a limit on the amount. That's approximately $6 per transaction and I usually take about 10 withdrawals per month when I'm there.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955812]I wonder how long it will be until those card issuers stop reimbursing or put a limit on the amount. That's approximately $6 per transaction and I usually take about 10 withdrawals per month when I'm there.[/QUOTE]Why do you think they will stop? Schwab is a financial services company. I have been a customer for years. I use my card constantly around the world. They are not going to stop because Fun Luvr went to Colombia and all of a sudden made 10 withdrawals in 1 month.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2955844]Why do you think they will stop? Schwab is a financial services company. I have been a customer for years. I use my card constantly around the world. They are not going to stop because Fun Luvr went to Colombia and all of a sudden made 10 withdrawals in 1 month.[/QUOTE]Being a financial services company, one of their objectives is to generate revenue for themselves. If one part of their operation is not making money, or is losing money, they will look to change something in that part. They may make a little on the conversion of foreign currency, but very little if so. They can't maintain a loss leader forever. Why are you being so shallow? I stated what I do as an example. I'm sure there are many other people using their debit cards in a similar manner.

Why do you think all the banks in Medellin now charge a fee for using their ATM's? It's not because they want to stick it to their customers. It's because ATM's without fees were an expense to them.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955812]Thanks for the information. I wonder how long it will be until those card issuers stop reimbursing or put a limit on the amount. That's approximately $6 per transaction and I usually take about 10 withdrawals per month when I'm there.[/QUOTE]I don't have schwab but I have Fidelity (which also reimburses ATM fees. I've been using it since August in Thailand (where it was over $6 per withdrawal) and now Philippines too and they've reimbursed me over $500 so far in 3 months.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955812]Thanks for the information. I wonder how long it will be until those card issuers stop reimbursing or put a limit on the amount. That's approximately $6 per transaction and I usually take about 10 withdrawals per month when I'm there.[/QUOTE]I just made an ATM withdrawal here in Rio at a higher end hotel.

The fee was unbelievably, approximately $60.

I'm with Schwab, I always get reimbursed and I've being using the card for years.

I imagine that there's some sort of courtesy waiving of fees between banks.

I don't know that as a fact though.

It just makes sense.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955892]Being a financial services company, one of their objectives is to generate revenue for themselves. If one part of their operation is not making money, or is losing money, they will look to change something in that part. They may make a little on the conversion of foreign currency, but very little if so. They can't maintain a loss leader forever. Why are you being so shallow? I stated what I do as an example. I'm sure there are many other people using their debit cards in a similar manner.

Why do you think all the banks in Medellin now charge a fee for using their ATM's? It's not because they want to stick it to their customers. It's because ATM's without fees were an expense to them.[/QUOTE]You are right, of course, if the policy of reimbursing fees worldwide becomes an unprofitable policy it will likely be reviewed and potentially changed. But here is why they have that policy. They wish to incentivize people to have their financial assets held at Schwab. How does this benefit them? Well cash balances pay rates that are less than Schwab earns on its short term investments. But the real winner for Schwab (and others) is that stock and bond positions (mostly stocks) can be lent out to customers who are short or on margin and the margin rates Schwab charges are a big earner for them. So they love paying out less than $100 a month in ATM reimbursements to you Fun Luvr and to me and in return they are earnings high margin rates on securities they borrow from your account. I guess it depends on the size of your account. But even a very small account of around 100,000 should generate margin fees far in excess of the $100 a month they are reimbursing.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955892]Being a financial services company, one of their objectives is to generate revenue for themselves. If one part of their operation is not making money, or is losing money, they will look to change something in that part. They may make a little on the conversion of foreign currency, but very little if so. They can't maintain a loss leader forever. Why are you being so shallow? I stated what I do as an example. I'm sure there are many other people using their debit cards in a similar manner.

Why do you think all the banks in Medellin now charge a fee for using their ATM's? It's not because they want to stick it to their customers. It's because ATM's without fees were an expense to them.[/QUOTE]Since they've been doing for over 20 years, they have likely concluded that the goodwill is worth it. I know many people who opened Schwab accounts primarily for that reason.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2955892]Being a financial services company, one of their objectives is to generate revenue for themselves. If one part of their operation is not making money, or is losing money, they will look to change something in that part. [/QUOTE]Evidently they are making so much money in other areas that they are able to forego it as pertains to ATM fees. Another thing they did a couple of years ago was to stop charging on trading transactions. If I recall correctly, it used to be $8. 95 per transaction. I figure they are missing out on way more money not charging for trades than they would be for reimbursing ATM fees.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2955844]Why do you think they will stop? Schwab is a financial services company. I have been a customer for years. I use my card constantly around the world. They are not going to stop because Fun Luvr went to Colombia and all of a sudden made 10 withdrawals in 1 month.[/QUOTE]Since it is free you have guys that abuse it taking $10 out everyday for a month instead of $300 once a month. All that has to be tracked and documented. That is a cost that needs to be recouped somewhere. ATM fees keep going up and up because the machine needs filled with money, paper for receipts, and machine maintenance. Nothing free lasts forever. Think of more and more grocery stores doing away with bags (bring your own) and charging for bags. Some stores charge a quarter to use the shopping cart but the quarter is returned if you return the cart to the builing rather than leave it in the parking lot because the expense of paying a worker to round up cart all over the parking lot.

I would guess that the use of cards for overseas has increased by 5 times from 10 years ago as people learned about the few companies that offer fee free ATM cards.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2956076]Since it is free you have guys that abuse it taking $10 out everyday for a month instead of $300 once a month. [/QUOTE]I have never heard of anyone doing that, and it's silly and I doubt it's a widespread problem.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2956097]I have never heard of anyone doing that, and it's silly and I doubt it's a widespread problem.[/QUOTE]Exactlly, as a ATM user my complete is the local limits on the amount of currency you can pull out or the ATM each time.

Very first bank account I got in my life I received a ATM card. They were paying me per transaction to use the ATM. The reimbursement is not a loss for the companies that do it. Remember the ATM operator gets their fee. The company reimbursing their clients do not have to maintain a ATM network. It is a WIN / WIN / WIN and you can bet as many COP as you would like that very smart people within these companies have run the numbers and have made the decision based on what they saw.

Please don't believe the hype. Think like a capitalist, not a wage slave.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2952591]Use the Indrive app. It should not be more than 10,000 pesos. It only cost me 12,000 to go to Laguito from the airport. But cars in Colombia are small, so it may be better to get 2 cars for 4 people with luggage.

Why not use the ATM? Don't think I have ever exchanged money in Colombia in the last 20 years when there have been perfectly good ATMs around (besides BanColombia-don't use that one![/QUOTE]I downloaded the Indrive app as suggested. It will be a bit unique to offer a fee to go somewhere, but it's an adventure.

My friend is a bit old fashioned and takes cash everywhere. He may not even have an ATM card, seriously. Based on your information though, it looks as if US credit cards are accepted in Colombia. That's good news for dining options.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2956097]I have never heard of anyone doing that, and it's silly and I doubt it's a widespread problem.[/QUOTE]It was an exaggeration. Basically people making lots of tiny dollar amount of withdrawals. That is hard to believe? Try this. Think in reverse. Someone making lots of tiny purchases with their credit card. Retail companies got tired of that so now there are minimum purchase amounts because the credit card fees were killing any profit. Many banks charge for checks now. Many banks have a maximum amount of checks you can write per month now.

If a ton of guys keep opening accounts to get free ATM usage but deposit little money or do not put money in the brokerage accounts, Schwab will most likely drop the free ATM. That is common sense. Nothing free lasts forever.

With all the super stupid things you have read, heard, and seen in your life (especially lately), how can doubt anything?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2956250]Retail companies got tired of that so now there are minimum purchase amounts because the credit card fees were killing any profit. Many banks charge for checks now. Many banks have a maximum amount of checks you can write per month now.[/QUOTE]I use my credit card at the Dollar Tree for $1. 25 plus tax all the time before I go to the gym. No minimums. I think those are against the credit card companies' policies. Saw them a few times at Indian owned stores in Reno and Las Vegas. Been in this city two years, use the card for small amounts all the time. On the checking limits, that's required by law for "money market accounts" and some other types.

However, I did notice that E-Trade now has some requirements to get the rebates. You could get it a few ways, by keeping a minimum cash balance, by having minimum total assets, by having direct deposit, maybe some other stuff.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2956216]The reimbursement is not a loss for the companies that do it. Remember the ATM operator gets their fee. The company reimbursing their clients do not have to maintain a ATM network. It is a WIN / WIN / WIN [/QUOTE]Please explain how a company that issues the card is making money from an ATM withdrawal, and how much they make from each withdrawal. Ten years ago, almost all the ATM's in Colombia were fee free. Now, I think all of them have a fee. Is that because the banks got greedy? If your answer is that the banks have to maintain the ATM's, well, they also had to maintain them when they were fee free.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2956239]I downloaded the Indrive app as suggested. It will be a bit unique to offer a fee to go somewhere, but it's an adventure.[/QUOTE]Download the Uber and DiDi apps. Look at them for what they charge for your trip. Then offer InDriver something less than that.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2956393]Please explain how a company that issues the card is making money from an ATM withdrawal, and how much they make from each withdrawal. Ten years ago, almost all the ATM's in Colombia were fee free. Now, I think all of them have a fee. Is that because the banks got greedy? If your answer is that the banks have to maintain the ATM's, well, they also had to maintain them when they were fee free.[/QUOTE]You look at it in a very narrow way. I know they make money from me and the cash I have sitting in there can easily support 10 or even 100 others so for me I am losing money vs if I try to manage it better.

The Colombian banks have figured it out. Once they found out they don't lose business by charging a fee. They raise it. They pattern fits.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2956407]You look at it in a very narrow way. I know they make money from me and the cash I have sitting in there can easily support 10 or even 100 others so for me I am losing money vs if I try to manage it better.

The Colombian banks have figured it out. Once they found out they don't lose business by charging a fee. They raise it. They pattern fits.[/QUOTE]Fidelity and Schwab not making money on the ATM withdrawal itself, but as others have mentioned they make money off of their brokerage fees and the spread. Between buy and sell prices for securities that people purchase through their brokerage accounts.

As for traditional banks like Wells Fargo and Bank of America (who are also card issuers) they actually do make money on ATM withdrawals especially out of network or foreign ATM withdrawals. I know for a fact that wells fargo charges a set $5 usd fee per foreign withdrawal to its cardholders who make ATM withdrawals. This is on top of any fees the ATM itself charges. They also have been known to charge a 3% foreign conversion rate fee as well. So traditional banks definitely make money from ATM withdrawals as a card issuer.

Cash management / brokerage accounts such as Fidelity are not making anything off the ATM withdrawal but they are hoping you hold your securities portfolio with them and then they will make money off of your trades. They offer the ATM fee reimbursements as a perk.

I've been off in Thailand Philippines and soon to be in Indonesia and I've already been reimbursed $550 usd in ATM fees from Fidelity. And no I don't withdraw $10 at a time it's usually between $100-200 usd worth of local currency I withdraw at a time. I don't like doing the maximum as I don't feel comfortable with that much cash all at once and also I have had problems in Colombia where an ATM charged me for a withdrawal but never gave me my cash, so that is the main reason I don't do maximum.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE]Please explain how a company that issues the card is making money from an ATM withdrawal[/QUOTE]There is a concept that wage slaves do not understand that business owners are very familiar with. The concept is [B]Opportunity Costs[/B].

The bank that issues the card, they are paying the paying the reimbursement to their customer that is using a ATM network being maintaining by someone else. Period. Full Stop! They pay this fee in order so they do not have to maintain a ATM network of their own. These are the [B]Opportunity Costs[/B] that the issuing bank does not have to incur. Read my post previous to this one and others. The issuing bank has made a business decision to make the reimbursements. There are very smart people running the numbers. And over the last 32 years, Charles Schwab has reimbursed my ATM fees worldwide that I have incurred for my account. I have no reason whatsoever to believe that policy will change. Even if it is unprofitable it may be considered by them to be a loss leader in order to draw in more business.

Individuals need to learn the purpose of banks. Banks are not there to make individuals happy. They are there to facilitate transactions. Each transaction you make using said bank is a opportunity for them to charge a fee. They do this because they are [B]Businesses[/B]. Businesses need to earn a profit in order to stay in business. For the individual the ATM fee is the cost of doing transactions that benefit your personal financial situation. If a ATM fee has not value to you then you need find a way to minimize them or eliminate them.

Personally, I do not see the point of complaining about the price of something in a free market system. If the ATM fees are going to make or break someone then maybe that person should put in more work in their country of origin in order to earn the money you need, before you step onto the plane to become a [B]International Trick[/B]!

[B]The Defense Rests[/B]!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2956846]. And over the last 32 years, Charles Schwab has reimbursed my ATM fees worldwide that I have incurred for my account. I have no reason whatsoever to believe that policy will change. Even if it is unprofitable it may be considered by them to be a loss leader in order to draw in more business.[/QUOTE]In your previous post, you said "The reimbursement is not a loss for the companies that do it." You now say it may be unprofitable. I realize "unprofitable" and "loss" are not synonymous, but it's very difficult to maintain zero sum total with expenses that vary.

Last year, Schwab's bank deposit account balances decreased by 23% while the number of bank accounts increased by 7%. Those "smart people" who are seeing this may see some red flags.

I've never said Schwab will eliminate the reimbursements. I said I wonder, with increased expenses, how long it will be until they change the reimbursements.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2956941]I've never said Schwab will eliminate the reimbursements. [/QUOTE]It's really tough to deny things you've written and published. This is you on Oct. 25: "I wonder how long it will be until those card issuers stop reimbursing" Don't you just hate it when people go back and directly and unequivocally prove you're lying?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2956941]In your previous post, you said "The reimbursement is not a loss for the companies that do it." You now say it may be unprofitable. I realize "unprofitable" and "loss" are not synonymous, but it's very difficult to maintain zero sum total with expenses that vary.

Last year, Schwab's bank deposit account balances decreased by 23% while the number of bank accounts increased by 7%. Those "smart people" who are seeing this may see some red flags.

I've never said Schwab will eliminate the reimbursements. I said I wonder, with increased expenses, how long it will be until they change the reimbursements.[/QUOTE]Hard to say but for reference, Fidelity does the same thing.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2956955]It's really tough to deny things you've written and published. This is you on Oct. 25: "I wonder how long it will be until those card issuers stop reimbursing" Don't you just hate it when people go back and directly and unequivocally prove you're lying?[/QUOTE]Shrinkflation. Remember the size of a large pizza when you were a kid compared to today? I had my first Big Mac in many years and looked at the beef patty. It was so thin they must be using glue or used a hydraulic press to keep it together. The banks can not do the things that the food industry does. But nothing free lasts forever. That is common sense which very few possess nowadays. The free ATM cards will end in time. They will most likely start with limiting the number of withdrawals you can make per month and go from there.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2956955]It's really tough to deny things you've written and published. This is you on Oct. 25: "I wonder how long it will be until those card issuers stop reimbursing" Don't you just hate it when people go back and directly and unequivocally prove you're lying?[/QUOTE]You are the one lying. When I say I wonder about something happening does not say it will happen. Please learn to comprehend English before posting.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2954790]Use Uber or DiDi.

You do not want to be arguing over them not having change, getting lost, suddenly increasing the price, take you to a checkpoint to get extorted by the police, or worse taking you for the million-dollar ride where they stop somewhere, and others get in the taxi to rob you. They will make a wrong turn in Crespo and you will be relieved of your items. Crespo may look safe but its not, same as Marbella and Getsemani. The police presence is not there to deter opportunistic thieves.[/QUOTE]I guess the person in the article don't read the forums. I literary just said this about the million-dollar ride and they got got. SMH.

[URL]https://www.noticiascaracol.com/colombia/a-turista-hungaro-le-ofrecieron-carrera-en-cartagena-y-le-terminaron-robando-un-millon-de-pesos-rg10[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nypher;2957814]I guess the person in the article don't read the forums. I literary just said this about the million-dollar ride and they got got. SMH.

[URL]https://www.noticiascaracol.com/colombia/a-turista-hungaro-le-ofrecieron-carrera-en-cartagena-y-le-terminaron-robando-un-millon-de-pesos-rg10[/URL][/QUOTE]That is why I do not even acknowledge anyone who comes up out of nowhere talking to me. Nobody knows me so the only possible thing they could want is money. Nobody leaves their house saying let me go down here and help some strangers out. They will definitely leave it saying let me go down here and see what I can get from some strangers though.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2957814]I guess the person in the article don't read the forums. I literary just said this about the million-dollar ride and they got got. SMH.

[URL]https://www.noticiascaracol.com/colombia/a-turista-hungaro-le-ofrecieron-carrera-en-cartagena-y-le-terminaron-robando-un-millon-de-pesos-rg10[/URL][/QUOTE]Even the ladrones take debit / credit cards now.

Colombia is second in the world (behind Afghanistan) in heavily deployed land mines placed by dissident groups and rebels. 1 in 5 towns in Colombia are affected and civilians are the main casualties of death and injury. Every 48 hours 5 people are injured or killed by land mines in Colombia.

[URL]https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/landmines-impact-one-out-of-every-5-towns-in-colombia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2966981]Colombia is second in the world (behind Afghanistan) in heavily deployed land mines placed by dissident groups and rebels. 1 in 5 towns in Colombia are affected and civilians are the main casualties of death and injury. Every 48 hours 5 people are injured or killed by land mines in Colombia.

[URL]https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/landmines-impact-one-out-of-every-5-towns-in-colombia/[/URL][/QUOTE]You should probably stay home then.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2967217]You should probably stay home then.[/QUOTE]Stay home for what?

It was a Public Service Announcement, dummy.

I am a financially fortunate, 70 yo, Caucasian American Widower, who only speaks English. The dream is to find a GF's where the relationship is good on both sides of a closed door. Intelligent, NSA & English speakers are ideal. I don't expect this to be inexpensive. How / Where to find? All intel is most welcome.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2967667]I am a financially fortunate, 70 yo, Caucasian American Widower, who only speaks English. The dream is to find a GF's where the relationship is good on both sides of a closed door. Intelligent, NSA & English speakers are ideal. I don't expect this to be inexpensive. How / Where to find? All intel is most welcome.[/QUOTE]Colombia is a place worthy for you to visit and explore and, IMHO, better than most anywhere else for what you are looking for. Many Colombianas have a thing for older men of any origin, and wealthy gringos are especially appealing. Understand going into this that some will be more interested in your wallet than anything else. If you're after the physical and nothing else, understand that going in and be prepared for that dynamic else it can become expensive. But your wording suggets that isn't you.

You didn't explicitly state long term relationship or one date and done, but you did say "relationship" and "both sides of a closed door". My advice is to try a few avenues and see what's best to your liking. Most, but not all, advice on these forums are P4 P. If you want a good date including todo la noche (or amanecida) then with your desire for intelligence and English, I think you will be best with a good agency (like LaCelestina in BOG / MDE). Without experience in Colombia or Spanish, I don't think you'll find what you are looking for in [URL]Photoprepagos.com[/URL], Milleroticos, and certainly in casa, nor the zonas de tolerencias (Centro in MDE, Santa Fe in BOG, around Clocktower in CTG). You can try seeking or tinder, but my experience is there is more pros highly skilled at getting high prices there.

If you want non-pro, in Bogota visit Gringo Tuesdays -- a learning language bar only open on Tuesdays. You can either go to learn spanish or to teach english. Either at whatever level you want. For other non-pro and semi-pro, consider looking at Colombia Cupid. There are a LOT of lonely women, especially 40+, throughout the country and there are filters for education level, english, etc. On your profile, be careful what you state else you'll get catfish, gold diggers, and the like. I haven't used for a few years now, but it was an outstanding source. NONE of the women I met were pros, but all appreciated a good meal and whatever gifts I felt like giving. Quite a few refused to accept cash (though they needed it).

You will want to learn some Spanish and your future novia can help with that. If you refuse to learn spanish, the search will take longer or the price will go up. Learning about the culture will help you A LOT as well. I HIGHLY suggest the book Culture Smart: Colombia (it's a series available for many countries).

Happy hunting.

Wow! Thank you for taking the time & energy for this response. It is very useful information. I am looking for a mature woman, with an active libido, to have an ongoing relationship with. I have re-started my Spanish study and really appreciate the tip about Tuesday learning.

One important question: Is oral sex a positive thing among the non-pros?

[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2967933]Colombia is a place worthy for you to visit and explore and, IMHO, better than most anywhere else for what you are looking for. Many Colombianas have a thing for older men of any origin, and wealthy gringos are especially appealing. Understand going into this that some will be more interested in your wallet than anything else. If you're after the physical and nothing else, understand that going in and be prepared for that dynamic else it can become expensive. But your wording suggets that isn't you.

You didn't explicitly state long term relationship or one date and done, but you did say "relationship" and "both sides of a closed door". My advice is to try a few avenues and see what's best to your liking. Most, but not all, advice on these forums are P4 P. If you want a good date including todo la noche (or amanecida) then with your desire for intelligence and English, I think you will be best with a good agency (like LaCelestina in BOG / MDE). Without experience in Colombia or Spanish, I don't think you'll find what you are looking for in [URL]Photoprepagos.com[/URL], Milleroticos, and certainly in casa, nor the zonas de tolerencias (Centro in MDE, Santa Fe in BOG, around Clocktower in CTG). You can try seeking or tinder, but my experience is there is more pros highly skilled at getting high prices there.

If you want non-pro, in Bogota visit Gringo Tuesdays -- a learning language bar only open on Tuesdays. You can either go to learn spanish or to teach english. Either at whatever level you want. For other non-pro and semi-pro, consider looking at Colombia Cupid. There are a LOT of lonely women, especially 40+, throughout the country and there are filters for education level, english, etc. On your profile, be careful what you state else you'll get catfish, gold diggers, and the like. I haven't used for a few years now, but it was an outstanding source. NONE of the women I met were pros, but all appreciated a good meal and whatever gifts I felt like giving. Quite a few refused to accept cash (though they needed it).

You will want to learn some Spanish and your future novia can help with that. If you refuse to learn spanish, the search will take longer or the price will go up. Learning about the culture will help you A LOT as well. I HIGHLY suggest the book Culture Smart: Colombia (it's a series available for many countries).

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2968737]One important question: Is oral sex a positive thing among the non-pros?[/QUOTE]What do you mean is it a positive thing? It is just something normal people do in a relationship or when they have sex. That is like asking is it a positive thing to eat with a fork at a restaurant. Usually just something that comes with the territory.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2968737]I am looking for a mature woman, with an active libido, to have an ongoing relationship with. [/QUOTE]There are plenty to chose from. This is not a great forum though as it is dominated by P4 P and those seeking younger chichas. There are exceptions.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2968737] One important question: Is oral sex a positive thing among the non-pros?[/QUOTE]There is a whole spectrum of women available. Generally speaking, it's accepted as a normal part of a relationship. There are exceptions.

I may be flamed for this on this forum, but it is true. Colombia is a socially conservative country, particularly for middle and upper class. You will be well served to read the Culture Smart: Colombia book and what it says about family life and relationships.

Especially for a non-pro you are looking for a potentially long term relationship, you need to understand first about their family situation and then their income stability.

Family first in Colombia. This also can shape a lot of what the relationship could be like. Single mothers are the norm, in fact Colombia has one of the highest % of single mothers worldwide. It's normal for adult children to live with their adult mother, who is often responsible for the care of her parents. Knowing what her family situation is can impact what type of relationship she can have. How much time she could spend with you and if she could travel. Early on in the relationship, perhaps after a few weeks, you will be expected to meet the family. Don't take that lightly, it's a big deal and typically signals that she wants a serious relationship. Or maybe she just wants a free dinner for the family (if she invites you to go out to eat with them). While it may feel awkward for you, it's your opportunity to shine. Enjoy being the center of attention.

Knowing your GF's real economic situation is important as that can also shape the relationship. IMO, income level is not as important as income stability. The job market is incredibly difficult for mature single women unless they have been in a career or a job for a long time, so it is often the case that adult children, especially boys, support their mother financially.

You will want to know where she lives as well as that enters into the economic dynamic quickly. Often online you'll be told that they live in one area of the city when in fact they live someplace else, often a lower estrado. Don't hold that against them. If you're in a major city, offer to send an Uber for your first date and they'll share their address. You can use google street view to get a sense of the area. For some people, that's a make-or-break situation if they are from a lower class area. Others are more open minded.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2967667]I am a financially fortunate, 70 yo, Caucasian American Widower, who only speaks English. The dream is to find a GF's where the relationship is good on both sides of a closed door. Intelligent, NSA & English speakers are ideal. I don't expect this to be inexpensive. How / Where to find? All intel is most welcome.[/QUOTE]If money is not a concern, try Miami.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2968751]What do you mean is it a positive thing? It is just something normal people do in a relationship or when they have sex. That is like asking is it a positive thing to eat with a fork at a restaurant. Usually just something that comes with the territory.[/QUOTE]LOL. Thank you, Sir. I am old and was married a long time to a woman who didn't enjoy it, but loved receiving oral.

How would you say in Spanish "Jerk me off a little bit. "?

[QUOTE=VW1936;2969322]How would you say in Spanish "Jerk me off a little bit. "?[/QUOTE]The verb I know for masturbation is 'pajarse. ' So you could say, 'Pajame un poquito. ' Now that may not be valid in Colombia. But in Argentina, 'haciendo la paja' is masturbating and if a chica calls you a 'pajero,' that's not good!

I'm old but I'm free now and pondering what places to visit. I'm not a loud music & dancing fan but certainly not opposed to some partying. Ideally I would like to find some other hobbyist to hang with and learn the ropes. Your recommendations are most welcome.

[QUOTE=VW1936;2969322]How would you say in Spanish "Jerk me off a little bit. "?[/QUOTE]This is funny! Shit Jaja obvio knowing some Spanish would be beneficial but if not use hand language or.

Bebe, mueve mi polls un poquito.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2973443]I'm old but I'm free now and pondering what places to visit. I'm not a loud music & dancing fan but certainly not opposed to some partying. Ideally I would like to find some other hobbyist to hang with and learn the ropes. Your recommendations are most welcome.[/QUOTE]My mongering days are few and far between, age and a serious girlfriend has kept my hall passes to a minimum but I'll be back in Bogota this January 16 for 5 days if your around I can steer you to some good contacts. Pm me.

Once again. Arrived and was asked by immigration what I am doing here, how long I an staying, and where I am staying. Then I was given a stamp for 90 days. I have not filled out that check mig shit in at least 1 year.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2974062]Once again. Arrived and was asked by immigration what I am doing here, how long I an staying, and where I am staying. Then I was given a stamp for 90 days. I have not filled out that check mig shit in at least 1 year.[/QUOTE]I arrived in Colombia just 6 days ago and Immigration didn't mention anything about a Check Mig. Sometimes the airlines will send that requirement in an email as a pre check but the don't even check for it. It's also been over a year since I've actually seen it required or enforced.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2976947]I arrived in Colombia just 6 days ago and Immigration didn't mention anything about a Check Mig. Sometimes the airlines will send that requirement in an email as a pre check but the don't even check for it. It's also been over a year since I've actually seen it required or enforced.[/QUOTE]It was enforced in Medellin immigration 4 months ago.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977148]It was enforced in Medellin immigration 4 months ago.[/QUOTE]Me and Mr. E have recently been to Colombia this month (January 2025) and after multiple visits to Colombia we haven't seen anything enforced in a year or so. Maybe immigration was picking on you 4 months ago.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2977214]ArmnHammer: to answer your question directly, war, hot open warfare has returned to Colombia and it is affecting Medellin. Gangs and paramilitaries in the barrios have imposed a curfew and even though the police and military are out in force the locals know the massive police and army presence will eventually go away leaving them vulnerable if they break the curfew.

So now you know why the streets are quiet: the locals are scared, paraphrasing your post's title, to death.

In short, the "golden age of peace" in Colombia is over and the country is returning to its historically violent roots.

Caveat emptor. Proceed at your own risk.

Those who can leave have left or are preparing to leave.

If you don't believe me, ok. But you have been duly informed and forewarned.[/QUOTE]From my understanding, the violence is centered around the major drug trafficking areas at the Venezuelan border (e. G. Catatumbo) which is troublesome but not likely to spread to places like Medellin. Essentially, it's a drug war between competing factions and not a coup / rebellion which would be more likely to spread to urban regions. This will "most likely" stay contained to the drug trafficking regions. I have a few contacts in Medellin that have referenced the events but none of them are worried about a more dangerous spread to urban regions. Either way, as StudPlayer says, you should always review your own risk profile on whether you want to visit or not.

I linked an article to give others some frame of reference so they can do further research on their own. [URL]https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/americas/colombia-displaced-deadly-rebel-clashes-intl-latam/index.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=Ocdude714;2977397]Hello all,

Longtime user / poster in the USA portion. First time posting or requesting in the international. I am in Medellin for a week. I have done attempted to do my homework on the scene here, but it still seems a little overwhelming. I'm staying at a nice airbnb in parques llera which I learned at checkout today there will be a security guard checking ID and passport at the front. Visitors allowed but no "sex tourism". Well shit, one of the reasons why I got such a nice place so close-the add did not mention security or anything about sex tourism.[/QUOTE]Was this in your contract with Airbnb? "Due to recent events in Medellin, we want to remind you that Airbnb policy strictly prohibits the use of listings for sex work and sexual tourism". I think the owners of your Airbnb are making a business decision by telling you no sex tourism. If they allow visitors, how do they know what goes on in the apartment? If the guard asks why you have a lady with you, tell him you are going to have some drinks and listen to music. It's too late now, but you should have started making friends on Facebook before arriving. I have many friends on Facebook who are happy to visit me for 250 mil. I don't know what the streetwalker price is because I don't partake of that segment. As MongerHunger posted, there's lots of information on this site, but you have to read it.

Norte de Santander, the region surrounding Cucuta and the Venezuela border area, has been a red hot zone of armed resistance and drug wars since well before, all during, and now after the famous peace accords. It's flared up again because of unwise political posturing by the armed groups and the President. As always, the most vulnerable local residents are feeling most of the pain. None of this is having significant impact in Medellin than I can notice. As the saying goes, ymmv.

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2977626]From my understanding, the violence is centered around the major drug trafficking areas at the Venezuelan border (e. G. Catatumbo) which is troublesome but not likely to spread to places like Medellin. Essentially, it's a drug war between competing factions and not a coup / rebellion which would be more likely to spread to urban regions. This will "most likely" stay contained to the drug trafficking regions. I have a few contacts in Medellin that have referenced the events but none of them are worried about a more dangerous spread to urban regions. Either way, as StudPlayer says, you should always review your own risk profile on whether you want to visit or not.

I linked an article to give others some frame of reference so they can do further research on their own. [URL]https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/americas/colombia-displaced-deadly-rebel-clashes-intl-latam/index.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ocdude714;2977397]Hello all,

Longtime user / poster in the USA portion. First time posting or requesting in the international. I am in Medellin for a week. I have done attempted to do my homework on the scene here, but it still seems a little overwhelming. I'm staying at a nice airbnb in parques llera which I learned at checkout today there will be a security guard checking ID and passport at the front. Visitors allowed but no "sex tourism". Well shit, one of the reasons why I got such a nice place so close-the add did not mention security or anything about sex tourism.
[/QUOTE]The locals are fed up and the mayor has launched an all out campaign against sex tourism especially against Gringos and Europeans. They are trying to rid the city of prostitution at least when it comes foreigners. They don't really care if other Colombians do it. Airbnb occupancy have already been in decline for a year and more and more owners are not allowing working girls in for fear of the whole hotel being shut down or if a regular building being fined by police. This will severely hurt Medellin's economy as men look for other more safe and less hostile countries to monger. Additionally, gang violence is on the rise.

2 french guys were just arrested for being caught with minors a few days ago. The issue is that many young girls lie about their age and even have fake ID's. They'll tell you they are 19 or 20 and if you get caught the judges will treat you worse than Colombians who do the same. 15 years in a Colombian prison. Here's the article: [URL]https://www.ecuavisa.com/amp/mundo/dos-franceses-detenidos-en-colombia-por-explotacion-sexual-de-menores-AA8662031[/URL].

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2977626]From my understanding, the violence is centered around the major drug trafficking areas at the Venezuelan border (e. G. Catatumbo) which is troublesome but not likely to spread to places like Medellin. Essentially, it's a drug war between competing factions and not a coup / rebellion which would be more likely to spread to urban regions. This will "most likely" stay contained to the drug trafficking regions. I have a few contacts in Medellin that have referenced the events but none of them are worried about a more dangerous spread to urban regions. Either way, as StudPlayer says, you should always review your own risk profile on whether you want to visit or not.

I linked an article to give others some frame of reference so they can do further research on their own. [URL]https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/americas/colombia-displaced-deadly-rebel-clashes-intl-latam/index.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]I spoke to 2 of my Colombian friends in Medellin. They're not into the monger scene so can't speak to that but they said, this keeps happening in the border region which is far out, unfortunately it's bad there. In MDE, life is normal. They don't have any concern about that violence spreading into the big cities, even told me to come down whenever and hang out, we're safe. So as another commenter said, 'know your risk profile'. Just thought I'd share some feedback from them. Again, they can't speak on the chica situation.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2973443]I'm old but I'm free now and pondering what places to visit. I'm not a loud music & dancing fan but certainly not opposed to some partying. Ideally I would like to find some other hobbyist to hang with and learn the ropes. Your recommendations are most welcome.[/QUOTE]If money isn't an issue join [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and have a "mutual benefits" relationship. You have to have a little patience weeding through the BS but you will find what you are looking for but it won't be cheap in the USA But if you don't speak any other languages then this is your best bet. I've been doing it for years and have met some great gals and have three sugar babies presently.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2977641]Was this in your contract with Airbnb? "Due to recent events in Medellin, we want to remind you that Airbnb policy strictly prohibits the use of listings for sex work and sexual tourism". I think the owners of your Airbnb are making a business decision by telling you no sex tourism. If they allow visitors, how do they know what goes on in the apartment? If the guard asks why you have a lady with you, tell him you are going to have some drinks and listen to music. It's too late now, but you should have started making friends on Facebook before arriving. I have many friends on Facebook who are happy to visit me for 250 mil. I don't know what the streetwalker price is because I don't partake of that segment. As MongerHunger posted, there's lots of information on this site, but you have to read it.[/QUOTE]Hello,

All is good now. Thank you for the response.

Turns out, nothing a little propina (tip) to the guard doesn't fix. Though not even sure it was necessary as all they require is an ID. Spanish getting a little better and I'm getting a little savvier as the days go by.

I will write up a full report, but let's just say what's app is your friend with these girls and EVERYTHING is negotiable.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2977767]The locals are fed up and the mayor has launched an all out campaign against sex tourism especially against Gringos and Europeans. They are trying to rid the city of prostitution at least when it comes foreigners. They don't really care if other Colombians do it. Airbnb occupancy have already been in decline for a year and more and more owners are not allowing working girls in for fear of the whole hotel being shut down or if a regular building being fined by police. This will severely hurt Medellin's economy as men look for other more safe and less hostile countries to monger. Additionally, gang violence is on the rise.

2 french guys were just arrested for being caught with minors a few days ago. The issue is that many young girls lie about their age and even have fake ID's. They'll tell you they are 19 or 20 and if you get caught the judges will treat you worse than Colombians who do the same. 15 years in a Colombian prison. Here's the article: [URL]https://www.ecuavisa.com/amp/mundo/dos-franceses-detenidos-en-colombia-por-explotacion-sexual-de-menores-AA8662031[/URL].[/QUOTE]Well that's scary.

Luckily my security guard warned me about this and he has multiple ways of checking for real ID. The tip I give helps assure this. That being said, I am not ignorant. I understand there is a level of risk just being here, let alone partaking in the amenities.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2977767]The locals are fed up and the mayor has launched an all out campaign against sex tourism especially against Gringos and Europeans. They are trying to rid the city of prostitution at least when it comes foreigners. They don't really care if other Colombians do it. Airbnb occupancy have already been in decline for a year and more and more owners are not allowing working girls in for fear of the whole hotel being shut down or if a regular building being fined by police. This will severely hurt Medellin's economy as men look for other more safe and less hostile countries to monger. Additionally, gang violence is on the rise.[/QUOTE]I think it's a bit overblown. There is nothing "all-out" about the campaign; Parque Lleras is literally completely open for business. Prostitution in Medellin is here to stay. Many can argue it is now the lifeblood of tourism to that area, but there is a disturbing truth we need to understand; there are a lot of men who are coming to Medellin to engage in underage prostitution. For a long time, Medellin has been known for very lax standards in this area. There are many countries with vibrant, raucous sex tourism scenes that are much better at policing that sort of sick stuff and it is my belief that Medellin is going through the growing pain of trying to control all of that. We have seen countless times over the past decade about supposed crackdowns on prostitution that amount to nothing but a few arrests of mongers who are engaging in egregious underage prostitution. It's really not that different than places like Rio where you have girl-friendly hotels and ones that aren't. Attacking AirBnb is logical but I would also say that places like Energy Living have tons of listing that claim "no sex tourism" while allowing it because they have the guards checking IDs. Things are getting restricted, but it didn't really feel that crazy to me. I'd be more worried if you saw a long-term shut down of Lleras or other sex hubs that lasts longer than a month or two.

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2977870]I think it's a bit overblown. There is nothing "all-out" about the campaign;[/QUOTE]As someone who speak Spanish and talks to locals every day and watches the news I can tell you without a doubt that the hate people in Medellin have for tourists right now is at an all time high. In Thailand and the Philippines, the locals welcome you with open arms, and you don't have to be worried about getting drugged or robbed by locals who rejoice when gringos are murdered. Yes there are tolerated zones that are propped up because some businesses fought back but the general sentiment among local is disgust and resentment.

It's not just 'no sex tourists' signs at the airport or airbnbs. It's not just the mayor making speeches practically every week vowing to stop gringos. It is now a deep source of frustration for the locals who are blaming all of the gentrification on foreigners whether it has to do with them or not. The hatred that locals have for foreigners is what allows them to drug and kill tourists without remorse. I'm so tired of people on youtube who want you to sign up for their Patreon and others on these forms that completely downplay the negatives. Tell the truth, let people make their own informed decisions. If this form was honest, every other post would be a story about somebody getting robbed or drugged because it literally happens every day in this city.

2 major streamers just got drugged on stream and people only know about it because it happened on camera. Thats daily life in the city.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2977885]The hatred that locals have for foreigners is what allows them to drug and kill tourists without remorse.[/QUOTE]You talk as if it is the everyday citizen that is drugging and killing folks. We all know it is not and a tourist that is not picking up hookers has pretty much zero chance of being drugged. Every story of someone being drugged starts off with some chicks (99% strangers) and drinking (100%.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2977885]I'm so tired of people on youtube who want you to sign up for their Patreon and others on these forms that completely downplay the negatives.[/QUOTE]This begs the question why do you even keep watching it? You seem to already know everything anyway. I have lived in Pattaya for 16 years and something I have never watched is a youtuber talking about Pattaya. Maybe the youtubers that you say are downplaying the negatives are smart enough not to get entrapped in the negatives and figure their viewers are as well.

It seems unlikely any of us are acquainted with enough people and what they are thinking to know what the "locals point of view" is. In a city of more than 2 million people it's just not realistic and that doesn't even account for the factor of individual circumstances. My personal opinion is anyone who takes pleasure in the death or misfortune of other people has emotional struggles to overcome. My advice is to not spend time and energy getting caught up in it. Conduct yourself respectably, engage with women honorably exercise reasonable caution, and you will have done what you could and should do to ensure good times. It's a slippery slope to be focused on what ifs and what abouts.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2977894]If you know people that rejoice and have no remorse when foreigners are murdered then you should reconsider the company you keep. Also, you don't seem too concerned about it yourself. By your own statements, it's almost like you don't have any concerns about their actions and you don't even show a bit of sympathy towards the victims. It's like you understand the locals point of view. Just an observation Bud.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2978080]Conduct yourself respectably, engage with women honorably exercise reasonable caution, and you will have done what you could and should do to ensure good times.[/QUOTE]If I took your advice I would never get laid! My conduct is reprehensible, I engage with dishonorable **** women, and exercise whenever I can. Thank you for your advice, Father.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2978080]It seems unlikely any of us are acquainted with enough people and what they are thinking to know what the "locals point of view" is. In a city of more than 2 million people it's just not realistic and that doesn't even account for the factor of individual circumstances. My personal opinion is anyone who takes pleasure in the death or misfortune of other people has emotional struggles to overcome. My advice is to not spend time and energy getting caught up in it. Conduct yourself respectably, engage with women honorably exercise reasonable caution, and you will have done what you could and should do to ensure good times. It's a slippery slope to be focused on what ifs and what abouts.[/QUOTE]Fair enough Sir. Good point.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2978080]It seems unlikely any of us are acquainted with enough people and what they are thinking to know what the "locals point of view" is. In a city of more than 2 million people it's just not realistic and that doesn't even account for the factor of individual circumstances.[/QUOTE]This is not speculation. This is not what-ifs. I've assimilated into the community, and the recent campaign against gringos for the acts of a very, very tiny few has convinced many Colombians, and I would argue the majority of Paisas in Medellin that most men who come here are complete degenerate and are tuning their city. If you don't believe me, and are committed to self-denial, then just go on Twitter, and search the words, "gringos Colombia". And I guarantee you, within just a few minutes, you will see 100's, if not 1000's of tweets of Colombians calling gringos who visit Colombia the most despicable things you can call any human being. There is your proof, don't take my word for it. I suspect that since the mayor of Medellin has created such a nasty reputation of foreigners coming that the Colombians will retaliate in a pretty serious way soon.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2978319]This is not speculation. This is not what-ifs. I've assimilated into the community, and the recent campaign against gringos for the acts of a very, very tiny few has convinced many Colombians, and I would argue the majority of Paisas in Medellin that most men who come here are complete degenerate and are tuning their city. If you don't believe me, and are committed to self-denial, then just go on Twitter, and search the words, "gringos Colombia". And I guarantee you, within just a few minutes, you will see 100's, if not 1000's of tweets of Colombians calling gringos who visit Colombia the most despicable things you can call any human being. There is your proof, don't take my word for it. I suspect that since the mayor of Medellin has created such a nasty reputation of foreigners coming that the Colombians will retaliate in a pretty serious way soon.[/QUOTE]Is this going to get American gringos locked out.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2025/01/26/us-news/trump-announces-immediate-retaliation-against-colombia-after-socialist-president-turns-back-us-deportation-flights/?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp[/URL]

BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]According to this article the travel ban is essentially on Colombian government officials traveling to the United States and has nothing to do with gringos going to Colombia. Of course, who knows how Colombia might choose to respond or how things might shape up. I won't be surprised if Colombia backs down: [URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5107673-trump-tariffs-colombia-deportation-flights/amp/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]How do you come to that conclusion? Probably not until Colombia imposes paid visa requirement like the new president did with many other countries. But look at Brazil which is not looking too good and Brazil is a far larger and much more developed country.

I definitely do not know the city like you. Your circle of friends and Twitter are as definitive as sources you apparently need to draw your conclusions. I respect that. Assimilated or not, I will carry on doing what makes me happy here. I hope you will do the same.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2978319]This is not speculation. This is not what-ifs. I've assimilated into the community, and the recent campaign against gringos for the acts of a very, very tiny few has convinced many Colombians, and I would argue the majority of Paisas in Medellin that most men who come here are complete degenerate and are tuning their city. If you don't believe me, and are committed to self-denial, then just go on Twitter, and search the words, "gringos Colombia". And I guarantee you, within just a few minutes, you will see 100's, if not 1000's of tweets of Colombians calling gringos who visit Colombia the most despicable things you can call any human being. There is your proof, don't take my word for it. I suspect that since the mayor of Medellin has created such a nasty reputation of foreigners coming that the Colombians will retaliate in a pretty serious way soon.[/QUOTE]

No travel ban was imposed. Gustavo Petro since decided to send his military aircraft to pick up the deportees.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]Travel ban is for Colombian citizens, per CNN article.

I'm not going to pretend to understand the phenomenon. We've all seen it for years on this web site. There is a doom and gloom focused perspective that seems to lie in wait for any current events that can spike the fear factor. I feel like we are all responsible to help each other by reasoning with each other. I make an honest effort but I don't insist. I try to stick to the facts so we can make informed decisions for ourselves. Everyone be safe and have fun.

[QUOTE=HotSamosa;2977783]I spoke to 2 of my Colombian friends in Medellin. They're not into the monger scene so can't speak to that but they said, this keeps happening in the border region which is far out, unfortunately it's bad there. In MDE, life is normal. They don't have any concern about that violence spreading into the big cities, even told me to come down whenever and hang out, we're safe. So as another commenter said, 'know your risk profile'. Just thought I'd share some feedback from them. Again, they can't speak on the chica situation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]Everyone said the same thing during COVID. I never saw prices drop. Read that same BS about other countries for other reasons but never happened. P4 P prices never drop and you say plummet. Plummet? Have you ever been to Colombia? Local guys are majority of all customers.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]The travel ban is on Colombian officials coming to the US.

It's high unlikely that Trump would actually prohibit US citizens from traveling to Colombia.

Hobo3 (aka KZ I believe) you are totally right and everyone would be wise to heed your advice and perspective.

To the nice obviously well-to-do families one sees walking on calle 10, please heed good advice and go to Aruba.

Medellin is no place to bring your children or your pretty wife.

Anyone who has seen the cultured men populating calle 10 these days knows that elegant gringos have turned medellin into mierda (sxxt), just as Hobo alludes to.

Oh well, things go up and things go down. And for now things are going down down down much like the dollar exchange rate these last days.

Quite curious really in light of the fact hot open warfare in now enveloping the country and massive waves of refugees are on the streets and highways everywhere you look.

Anyone else been out and about recently these days?

Looks like syria, Afghanistan, ukraine and gaza all rolled into one.

People everywhere, foreigners and locals alike, are preparing for the worst.

There is palpable tension in the air of Colombia these last days and weeks.

A really sad state of affairs and a lot of human suffering not to mention loss of life happening now throughout all parts of Colombia.

So come on down now fine gentlemen, all this suffering means you will get your rocks off cheap with the few sub par chicas which still remain in Colombia.

And you might even live to tell about it.

Once again, I tell you, you now find the young good looking colombian chicas outside of Colombia.

Look for them in harems in dubai and other similarly wealthy countries.

There is even a mosque here recruiting chicas and flying them out daily.

That is why they got the daily flight from Bogota to dubai now.

And if you don't believe me, ok. Look at the flight schedule for yourself.

As always, be careful and make good decisions.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2978319]This is not speculation. This is not what-ifs. I've assimilated into the community, and the recent campaign against gringos for the acts of a very, very tiny few has convinced many Colombians, and I would argue the majority of Paisas in Medellin that most men who come here are complete degenerate and are tuning their city. If you don't believe me, and are committed to self-denial, then just go on Twitter, and search the words, "gringos Colombia". And I guarantee you, within just a few minutes, you will see 100's, if not 1000's of tweets of Colombians calling gringos who visit Colombia the most despicable things you can call any human being. There is your proof, don't take my word for it. I suspect that since the mayor of Medellin has created such a nasty reputation of foreigners coming that the Colombians will retaliate in a pretty serious way soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]The Colombian President has backed down and is accepting President Trump's demands. It's seems that Colombian President Petro does not want to "Fuck Around and Find Out".

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/colombian-president-caves-trump-dispute-213021159.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]Trump said he would put a travel ban on people coming from Colombia to the US, and place a 25% tariff on all products coming from Colombia, raising it to 50% after one week. Petro blinked and said he will send his Presidential plane to pick up the Colombians. He said the reason he refused entry of the planes was because the Colombians on board were mistreated.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2978429]Trump said he would put a travel ban on people coming from Colombia to the US, and place a 25% tariff on all products coming from Colombia, raising it to 50% after one week. Petro blinked and said he will send his Presidential plane to pick up the Colombians. He said the reason he refused entry of the planes was because the Colombians on board were mistreated.[/QUOTE]I wish it were only the allegation of Colombians being mistreated. [URL]https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/01/26/gustavo-petro-responds-to-trump-overthrow-methe-americas-and-humanity-will-respond/[/URL].

Here is what Petro said:

Trump, I don't like traveling to the USA Much, it's a bit boring, but I confess there are worthy things. I like to go to the Black neighborhoods of Washington. There, I saw a whole fight in the capital of the USA Between Blacks and Latinos, with barricades, which seemed to me like nonsense, because they should unite.

I confess that I like Walt Whitman, Paul Simon, Noam Chomsky, and Miller.

I confess that Sacco and Vanzetti, who have my blood, in the history of the USA, are memorable and I follow them. They were murdered for being labor leaders with the electric chair by the fascists who are inside the USA Just as they are in my country.

I don't like your oil, Trump, you are going to end the human species with greed. Maybe one day, along with a drink of whiskywhich I accept despite my gastritiswe can talk frankly about this, but it's difficult because you consider me an inferior race, and I am not, nor is any Colombian.

So if you are looking for a stubborn person, that's me, period. You can try to stage a coup with your economic power and arrogance, like you did with Allende. But I will die by my law, I withstood torture, and I resist you. I don't want slave owners on Colombia's side, we already had many and we freed ourselves. Who I want to be on Colombia's side are lovers of freedom. If you can't join me, I will go elsewhere. Colombia is the heart of the world, and you didn't understand it. This is the land of the yellow butterflies, the beauty of Remedios, but also of Colonel Aureliano Buenda, one of whom I am, perhaps the last.

You will kill me, but I will survive in my town, which came before yours, in the Americas. We are peoples of the winds, the mountains, the Caribbean Sea, and freedom.

You don't like our freedom, fine. I do not shake hands with white slave owners. I shake the hands of libertarian whites, heirs of Lincoln, and of the Black and white rural boys from the USA, in front of whose graves I cried and prayed on a battlefield, which I reached after walking through the mountains of Tuscany and after saving myself from COVID.

They are the US, and before them, I kneel, before no one else.

Overthrow me president, and the Americas and humanity will respond.

Colombia, now stop looking to the north, look to the world, our blood comes from the blood of the Caliphate of seerdoba, the civilization of that time, from the Roman Latins of the Mediterranean, the civilization of that time, who founded the republic, democracy in Athens; our blood carries the resistant Black people who were turned into slaves by you. In Colombia lies the first free territory of the Americas, before Washington, of all the Americas, I take refuge there in their African songs.

My land is of the goldsmiths that existed in the time of the Egyptian pharaohs, and of the first artists in the world in Chiribiquete.

You will never dominate us. The warrior who rode our lands, shouting freedom, and who is called Bolvar, opposes you.

Our peoples are somewhat fearful, somewhat shy, they are naive and kind, lovers, but they will know how to win back the Panama Canal, which you took from us with violence. Two hundred heroes from all over Latin America lie in Bocas del Toro, now Panama, before Colombia, whom you murdered.

I raise a flag, and as Gaitand said, even if I am alone, it will remain raised with Latin American dignity, which is the dignity of America, which your great-grandfather didn't know, but mine did, Mr. President, immigrant in the US.

Your blockade does not scare me because Colombia, in addition to being the country of beauty, is the heart of the world. I know you love beauty as I do, don't disrespect it, and it will offer you its sweetness.

Colombia FROM NOW ON FACES THE WHOLE WORLD, WITH OPEN ARMS, WE ARE BUILDERS OF FREEDOM, LIFE, AND HUMANITY.

I have been informed that you impose a 50% tariff on the fruit of our human labor to enter the US, I will do the same.

Let our people plant corn, which was discovered in Colombia, and feed the world.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2978429]Petro blinked and said he will send his Presidential plane to pick up the Colombians.[/QUOTE]This is from Trump on Truth Social:

Petro's denial of these flights has jeopardized the National Security and Public Safety of the United States, so I have directed my Administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures:

Emergency 25% tariffs on all goods coming into the United States. In one week, the 25% tariffs will be raised to 50%.

-A Travel Ban and immediate Visa Revocations on the Colombian Government Officials, and all Allies and Supporters.

-Visa Sanctions on all Party Members, Family Members, and Supporters of the Colombian Government.

-Enhanced Customs and Border Protection Inspections of all Colombian Nationals and Cargo on national security grounds.

-IEEPA Treasury, Banking and Financial Sanctions to be fully imposed.

These measures are just the beginning.

End of link.

So yeah, Petro has blinked. There is no doubt about that. There is no indication Trump has backed off though, and I am not sure after the way Petro mouthed off, he is going to.

I know we have Democrats here who hate Trump and no doubt love what Petro said and did. That is fine. You are Americans and entitled to your opinion. You are not president of Colombia and your job is not to put the interests of the Colombian people first like his is. How does Petro saying Trump is a slave owner help Colombia? How does telling Trump he is going to end the human species help Colombia?

So I hope that Trump lets this go. He has a lot on his plate. But OTOH, people have stated they think Trump is bluffing on tariffs, and he might want to make an example of Colombia, and part of Trump must be thinking am I going to let this Petro asshole get away with mouthing off like this?

And like I said, Trump has not rescinded the tariffs. And if Trump keeps them imposed, is Petro gong to retaliate with travel bans? I hope not.

And of all the hills to die on, Petro chose to stand up for a bunch of criminals. You cannot make this shit up.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2978429]Petro blinked and said he will send his Presidential plane to pick up the Colombians. He said the reason he refused entry of the planes was because the Colombians on board were mistreated.[/QUOTE]This is a case of the easy way versus the hard way. You can not be an uninvited guest in someone's house and complain about how they go about putting you out. I think it was the Brazilian minister saying something about dignity. Where was that speech when they were overstaying visas and paying the Mexican cartel $200/ person to let them pass? Now that your ass is busted, people are supposed to bend over backwards making things comfortable. If you would have left the easy way then maybe you could have expected comfort and dignity.

P.S. How would he have known how the people on board were treated if the plane had not even landed?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978354]BREAKING: President Trump said he is placing tariffs, a travel ban and other measures after the government rejected two planes carrying migrants, and the country's president said he would prohibit USA Deportation flights entry.

The Medellin authorities and residents will like this. No more gringos in Medellin. Puta prices will plummet.[/QUOTE]Much ado about nothing.

The politicians fixed it already.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2978429]Trump said he would put a travel ban on people coming from Colombia to the US, and place a 25% tariff on all products coming from Colombia, raising it to 50% after one week. Petro blinked and said he will send his Presidential plane to pick up the Colombians. He said the reason he refused entry of the planes was because the Colombians on board were mistreated.[/QUOTE]I thought it was the other way around. A ban on people coming from Colombia to the US makes no sense; Colombian tourists who travel to the US are mostly wealthy Colombians whose expenditure there contribute to the US economy. What would hurt Colombia more is a ban on American tourists going to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978530]I thought it was the other way around. A ban on people coming from Colombia to the US makes no sense; Colombian tourists who travel to the US are mostly wealthy Colombians whose expenditure there contribute to the US economy. What would hurt Colombia more is a ban on American tourists going to Colombia.[/QUOTE]The short-lived ban wasn't even on Colombian tourists per se. It was on Colombian government officials. And don't be fooled. Plenty of Colombians who can't be described as "wealthy" visit the United States and other countries. Often remaining illegally! In any event, no way can Colombia win a trade war with the States. They need us far more than we need them. I called this one right with a Colombian capitulation.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978530]I thought it was the other way around. A ban on people coming from Colombia to the US makes no sense; Colombian tourists who travel to the US are mostly wealthy Colombians whose expenditure there contribute to the US economy. What would hurt Colombia more is a ban on American tourists going to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Colombian presdent caved in. I was expecting copa would tank for our good. Definaely Colombian president faces the wrath of elites who invested heavily in Miami of freezing their assets and travel bans.. He wouldn't care about of common people of Colombia

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/26/world/americas/colombia-us-deportation-flights.html

Almost any bit of news involving Colombia gets hyped into an apocalyptic crisis on this website. The predictability of it is laughable.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2978497]Much ado about nothing.

The politicians fixed it already.[/QUOTE]

I thought Trump announced the visas of Petro and other Colombian government officials were pulled. That's not quite the same as banning travel across the board.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2978429]Trump said he would put a travel ban on people coming from Colombia to the US, and place a 25% tariff on all products coming from Colombia, raising it to 50% after one week. Petro blinked and said he will send his Presidential plane to pick up the Colombians. He said the reason he refused entry of the planes was because the Colombians on board were mistreated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2978497]Much ado about nothing.

The politicians fixed it already.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but I am not sure if it would have been if the American media had taken what Petro said and publicized it. In the past, they took every chance they could to demonize Trump, and it was nice to see them act responsibly. So kudos to them.

Trump drew up the paperwork of the sanctions he outlined against Colombia but did not sign them. So in essence, he is keeping a loaded gun at Petro's head. So things will be fine as long as Petro does not say or do anything stupid again and hopefully, he won't. I do not have much faith though that he will stay rational.

Petro tried to follow the Hugo Chavez way of controlling government. Unlike Chavez, his attempts to take over the Colombian Congress and Judiciary failed. In the past, Chavez would give like these three hour long speeches where all he would do is insult GW Bush.

I am a big Trump supporter but I will admit one of his issues is he is thin skinned though he seems to be getting better with that. I think he handled this situation beautifully, and I hope he continues to blow off what Petro says. Obviously, what he says should not be taken seriously.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2978403]Hobo3 (aka KZ I believe) you are totally right and everyone would be wise to heed your advice and perspective.

Once again, I tell you, you now find the young good looking colombian chicas outside of Colombia.

Look for them in harems in dubai and other similarly wealthy countries.

There is even a mosque here recruiting chicas and flying them out daily.

That is why they got the daily flight from Bogota to dubai now.

And if you don't believe me, ok. Look at the flight schedule for yourself. [/QUOTE]Thank you at least somebody's being honest. It's actually quite impressive the ignorance of many mongers. If there is political turmoil, massive killing, and starvation or a trade war the first thing on their mind is "will the working girls lower their prices?" There could be serial killers in Colombia hunting gringos and some of these clowns will say 'now's my chance!' The mayor of Medellin anti-gringo sentiments will eventually impact tourism and these new tensions with Trump will scare investors. The most beautiful Colombians get scooped up and offered jobs in Dubai and Europe as practical sex slaves. Add the consistent robberies and druggings, Medellín is on the decline no matter how many people come to tell you that everything is perfectly fine.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2978461]
I know we have Democrats here who hate Trump and no doubt love what Petro said and did. [/QUOTE]Nah, I hate Trump, but Petro has no good argument here. 'Our citizens were mistreated so we're going to force them to stay outside our country where they're being mistreated'? Not to mention the basic stance of not accepting the return of your own citizens who have illegally immigrated. I don't like hostility between the two nations though, definitely makes me less likely to visit as an obvious gringo due to skin color and limited Spanish.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;2978597]Nah, I hate Trump, but Petro has no good argument here. 'Our citizens were mistreated so we're going to force them to stay outside our country where they're being mistreated'? Not to mention the basic stance of not accepting the return of your own citizens who have illegally immigrated. I don't like hostility between the two nations though, definitely makes me less likely to visit as an obvious gringo due to skin color and limited Spanish.[/QUOTE]Yeah, what the guy said was nonsense. Not only that, he said "migrants aren't criminals". It's this kind of thinking that's part of the problem. You see because if a migrant breaks the laws of another nation, including the immigration laws, then that migrant is indeed a criminal! We need to get tougher on people (and the the countries they flow through) to stem the tide. Illegals want to act like they haven't done anything wrong, and words like Petro's do nothing to help the situation. People like Preto should spend more time creating solid economic opportunities for their people so they don't desire to leave their countries and illegally immigrate to mine.

Meanwhile nobody talk's about the daughter and her FEETZ.

I would lick them silly but you ain't heard that from me.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2978805]Meanwhile nobody talk's about the daughter and her FEETZ.

I would lick them silly but you ain't heard that from me.[/QUOTE]You said FEETZ but you show FACZ.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;2978597]Nah, I hate Trump, but Petro has no good argument here. 'Our citizens were mistreated so we're going to force them to stay outside our country where they're being mistreated'? Not to mention the basic stance of not accepting the return of your own citizens who have illegally immigrated. I don't like hostility between the two nations though, definitely makes me less likely to visit as an obvious gringo due to skin color and limited Spanish.[/QUOTE]Talked to my Colombian gal tonight. Apparently, Colombians are being put at the back of the line in Florida customs per her and being verbally grilled.

Some are saying Petro was drunk when he posted what he did. That would make sense.

It will be interesting to see what happens to guys entering Colombia now and how we are treated.

But it does look like the knives are coming out for him. Right after this incident, there are accusations about him having an affair with a trans woman. [URL]https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/colombia-president-gustavo-petros-controversial-love-life-affair-allegations-with-trans-woman-to-three-marriages/articleshow/117605992.cms[/URL].

I hope our trips to Colombia stay smooth.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2979469]Talked to my Colombian gal tonight. Apparently, Colombians are being put at the back of the line in Florida customs per her and being verbally grilled.

Some are saying Petro was drunk when he posted what he did. That would make sense.

It will be interesting to see what happens to guys entering Colombia now and how we are treated.

But it does look like the knives are coming out for him. Right after this incident, there are accusations about him having an affair with a trans woman. [URL]https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/colombia-president-gustavo-petros-controversial-love-life-affair-allegations-with-trans-woman-to-three-marriages/articleshow/117605992.cms[/URL].

I hope our trips to Colombia stay smooth.[/QUOTE]As you did I too have lived in Colombia with my Colombian girlfriend and family so we have an insight with current public opinion in current day Bogota. I knew from day one not to expect any co-operation from Petro, with the USA? He's a known FARC member, a socialist who dedicated his life to overthrow the Colombian government. Most of his ministers are past FARC members, Petro aligns his policies more with Venezuela and Cuba than with the USA.
I have had many conversations with Rolos. (University students not-withstanding they pretty much got Petro elected.) And almost 100% of them want Petro gone! If Petro continues to square up against the USA and it costs the country lots of help from the states it won't go over very well. As you know Colombians have no problem organizing large protests.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2979469]Talked to my Colombian gal tonight. Apparently, Colombians are being put at the back of the line in Florida customs per her and being verbally grilled.

Some are saying Petro was drunk when he posted what he did. That would make sense.

It will be interesting to see what happens to guys entering Colombia now and how we are treated.

But it does look like the knives are coming out for him. Right after this incident, there are accusations about him having an affair with a trans woman. [URL]https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/colombia-president-gustavo-petros-controversial-love-life-affair-allegations-with-trans-woman-to-three-marriages/articleshow/117605992.cms[/URL].

I hope our trips to Colombia stay smooth.[/QUOTE]I arrived Friday evening. The immigration officer was the same as always, very fast processing and no questions. The baggage inspection person was different. She asked if I was traveling alone, and I told her I was. She then asked "You have two bags for one person? I told her yes. She then asked how much money I was carrying. I told her I had pesos that equaled about 3 thousand USD. I had taken a chance with getting pesos during my last trip when the exchange rate was more than 4400/1. She then called to a guy and he took me to a little room and counted the pesos and filled out a form. Then they told me I could go, without even scanning my bags. That type of questioning had never happened before, and I have made many trips to Medellin.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2979738]She asked if I was traveling alone, and I told her I was. She then asked "You have two bags for one person? I told her yes. She then asked how much money I was carrying. That type of questioning had never happened before,[/QUOTE]Do you have all of your bags / How many bags do you have and how much money are you carrying are 2 normal customs questions in every country. They have been on paper customs forms since time immemorial. As a matter of fact, that is the main purpose of customs, to know what you are bringing into the country.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2979738]She asked if I was traveling alone, and I told her I was. She then asked "You have two bags for one person? I told her yes. She then asked how much money I was carrying. That type of questioning had never happened before,[/QUOTE]Do you have all of your bags / How many bags do you have and how much money are you carrying are 2 normal customs questions in every country. They have been on paper customs forms since time immemorial. As a matter of fact, that is the main purpose of customs, to know what you are bringing into the country.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2979738]She asked if I was traveling alone, and I told her I was. She then asked "You have two bags for one person? I told her yes. She then asked how much money I was carrying. That type of questioning had never happened before,[/QUOTE]Do you have all of your bags / How many bags do you have and how much money are you carrying are 2 normal customs questions in every country. They have been on paper customs forms since time immemorial. As a matter of fact, that is the main purpose of customs, to know what you are bringing into the country.

Not untypical. And in any society it would be out of the ordinary to carry 3 k in cash. Typically for non run of the mill cash amounts coming in the cash is quickly counted to ensure you're honest and not carrying more than $10 k and you're on your way.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2979738]I arrived Friday evening. The immigration officer was the same as always, very fast processing and no questions. The baggage inspection person was different. She asked if I was traveling alone, and I told her I was. She then asked "You have two bags for one person? I told her yes. She then asked how much money I was carrying. I told her I had pesos that equaled about 3 thousand USD. I had taken a chance with getting pesos during my last trip when the exchange rate was more than 4400/1. She then called to a guy and he took me to a little room and counted the pesos and filled out a form. Then they told me I could go, without even scanning my bags. That type of questioning had never happened before, and I have made many trips to Medellin.[/QUOTE]

Just flew back through Miami. No difference than usual. Colombians weren't being singled out and I think maybe your girl may have been exaggerating for some reason? There are 3 lines: global entry, us citizens and non citizens. No one was going through the non citizen line pulling people out, etc. There was also no line specifically for any target country. Additionally global entry is still available for Colombian citizens. Maybe something your girl may want to do if she visits regularly.

As for entering Colombia I also see no difference. You're either staying there for the allowed 90 days or whatever the number is or not and you either have cash funds to cover that stay or not and you have a return flight booked with a hotel or your accommodation address provided as done through checkmig. Not here to argue about the checkmig. I get it that some people don't do it. Get it that the website is glitchy af. I just do it anyways because why not. If you don't want to do it then good for you. No different than usual. In addition there are only 3 lines at immigration. Colombianos, non citizens and diplomats / flight crew and no lines singling out specific countries.

All in all to summarize. Business as usual.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2979469]Talked to my Colombian gal tonight. Apparently, Colombians are being put at the back of the line in Florida customs per her and being verbally grilled.
It will be interesting to see what happens to guys entering Colombia now and how we are treated.

I hope our trips to Colombia stay smooth.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2979793]Not untypical. And in any society it would be out of the ordinary to carry 3 k in cash. Typically for non run of the mill cash amounts coming in the cash is quickly counted to ensure you're honest and not carrying more than $10 k and you're on your way.[/QUOTE]It was untypical because in more than 50 times entering Colombian, I had never been asked either question. When they had the paper immigration form and now on the Check-mig form, there's a question asking if you are carrying more than $10,000 USD or equivalent. I had never been asked how much I was carrying. I had never been asked why I had a number of bags.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2979766]Do you have all of your bags / How many bags do you have and how much money are you carrying are 2 normal customs questions in every country. They have been on paper customs forms since time immemorial. As a matter of fact, that is the main purpose of customs, to know what you are bringing into the country.[/QUOTE]For 14 years that I've been going to Colombia, no form I filled out asked for the amount of money I was carrying. I can agree that the purpose of customs is to check what comes into a country, but those people didn't check my bags. They didn't even put my bags through the scanner. I don't recall ever being asked how much money I was carrying, only if I was carrying over a certain amount. I vaguely remember Costa Rican customs asking how much I planned to spend or how much I spent.

Please show a customs form that asks for the amount of amount you are carrying.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2979839]Please show a customs form that asks for the amount of amount you are carrying.[/QUOTE]You are splitting hairs. Are you carrying over a certain amount and how much are you carrying are pretty much the same question. One is open end and one is closed end. It is like if they asked you to write your last name first, you would argue but my last name is not my first name so it should not go first.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2979738]I arrived Friday evening. The immigration officer was the same as always, very fast processing and no questions. The baggage inspection person was different. She asked if I was traveling alone, and I told her I was. She then asked "You have two bags for one person? I told her yes. She then asked how much money I was carrying. I told her I had pesos that equaled about 3 thousand USD. I had taken a chance with getting pesos during my last trip when the exchange rate was more than 4400/1. She then called to a guy and he took me to a little room and counted the pesos and filled out a form. Then they told me I could go, without even scanning my bags. That type of questioning had never happened before, and I have made many trips to Medellin.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.fedagent.com/news/deas-civilian-airport-search-and-seizure-program-suspended-after-ig-advisory[/URL]

The issue was thrust into the public eye by a series of investigative reports from Atlanta News First which "uncovered how drug agents have been seizing anything over $5,000 if airline passengers can't prove on the spot that their own money didn't come from drug trafficking. ".

The program used civil asset forfeiture to allow DEA agents to seize cash if the passenger was suspected of carrying illicit funds tied to the drug trade. The onus was then put on the passenger to prove it was not drug money, to get the funds back.

In addition, most airport seizures did not result in criminal prosecutions. DEA even paid one airline employee tens of thousands of dollars in proceeds from cash seized as a result of tips.

End of link.

FL, in the future, I would not carry that much cash through. If you had more money on you, even a legal amount under $10,000, the agents may have kept it.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2979796]Just flew back through Miami. No difference than usual. Colombians weren't being singled out and I think maybe your girl may have been exaggerating for some reason?[/QUOTE]Or maybe it was just going on for a day or two. Whatever the reason, that is good news Davinci, and I am glad to hear it.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2979796]As for entering Colombia I also see no difference.[/QUOTE]That is more good news. Thanks for sharing!

I was really hoping that this would be a forgettable incident, and it looks like it was.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2979766]Do you have all of your bags / How many bags do you have and how much money are you carrying are 2 normal customs questions in every country. They have been on paper customs forms since time immemorial. As a matter of fact, that is the main purpose of customs, to know what you are bringing into the country.[/QUOTE]I cannot state with any accuracy how many times I have entered a foreign country and gone through customs but over a hundred for sure. It does not ask on the customs form how much money you are bringing in. We all know that's bullshit so why did you say that? It asks if you have more than $10 k US or its equivalent. And I personally have never, not once, ever been asked how much money I was carrying. Nor have I ever been taken to a little room. I've entered Colombia mmm 15 times? If you get that a lot it's because you're black ha ha.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2979857]I cannot state with any accuracy how many times I have entered a foreign country and gone through customs but over a hundred for sure. It does not ask on the customs form how much money you are bringing in. We all know that's bullshit so why did you say that? It asks if you have more than $10 k US or its equivalent. And I personally have never, not once, ever been asked how much money I was carrying.[/QUOTE]They do not have to ask you verbatim. There are different ways of asking the same question, just like a personality test. I have been asked many times how much money I was carrying. I even have friends who US Customs have made count their money in the jetway as they were leaving the country.

I have never lied on this site. I have been saying for over 1 year that it is not mandatory to do that checkmig. How many people have not done the checkmig since then and have had no problem entering Colombia? Give bullshit information is something that I do not do sir.

I also can not state with any accuracy how many times I have entered a foreign country and gone through Customs, but with 2 valid US passports (one that has only 4 pages left and is still valid until 2030), I can assure you that it is much more than 100 in only the last few years.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2979857]I cannot state with any accuracy how many times I have entered a foreign country and gone through customs but over a hundred for sure. It does not ask on the customs form how much money you are bringing in. We all know that's bullshit so why did you say that? It asks if you have more than $10 k US or its equivalent. And I personally have never, not once, ever been asked how much money I was carrying. Nor have I ever been taken to a little room. I've entered Colombia mmm 15 times? If you get that a lot it's because you're black ha ha.[/QUOTE]I'm white as hell. Been in and out of Bogota 20 times at least the last 3 years. I got asked how much money I had on me at the customs desk right before the exit one time 2 years ago. I don't understand ya'lls absolutes. Sometimes things just happen.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2979944]I'm white as hell. Been in and out of Bogota 20 times at least the last 3 years. I got asked how much money I had on me at the customs desk right before the exit one time 2 years ago. I don't understand ya'lls absolutes. Sometimes things just happen.[/QUOTE]Not dealing in any absolutes but merely relating my own experience. Not saying others haven't had different experiences. Just reporting cold, hard facts.

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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2979843]FL, in the future, I would not carry that much cash through. If you had more money on you, even a legal amount under $10,000, the agents may have kept it.[/QUOTE]All I can say is, you travel your way and I'll travel my way. This discussion started from you posting "It will be interesting to see what happens to guys entering Colombia now and how we are treated." I posted my experience which had never happened before. Some people on here are antagonists and are almost always proclaiming their way is the right way or finding faults with a post. I guess that's to be expected from an anonymous chat site.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2980021]All I can say is, you travel your way and I'll travel my way. This discussion started from you posting "It will be interesting to see what happens to guys entering Colombia now and how we are treated." I posted my experience which had never happened before. Some people on here are antagonists and are almost always proclaiming their way is the right way or finding faults with a post. I guess that's to be expected from an anonymous chat site.[/QUOTE]What happened to you has nothing to do with the recent incident in Colombia. I have been asked once or twice how much money I had on me way before any of this happened. And Jack Taggart has had it happen. And Mr. E says not only has it happened to him, he knows people in customs where it has happened.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2980021]Some people on here are antagonists and are almost always proclaiming their way is the right way or finding faults with a post. I guess that's to be expected from an anonymous chat site.[/QUOTE]It is not some people. It is one person, and his attempts at virtue signaling, customs likes me more than you all, are nothing new. Why you are virtue signaling at the same time you are talking about banging hookers and drinking like a fish is beyond me.

The reason I told you what I did is that I do not want your money taken from you or from anyone here. What was going on was theft, plain and simple. Charging your money with a potential crime is bullshit. Why the legislatures, Congress, and courts have allowed this to happen is beyond me. IMO it is clearly a 4th amendment violation.

The purpose of this forum, for most of us anyway, is to share information and avoid pitfalls. That is all I was doing.

I have been in and out of Colombia Gazillion times in the last 14 or so years. I can't remember ever being asked how much cash I have with me. On entry I am rarely directed to the x-ray machine of my bags. My girlfriend of Bogota is a very serious STEM major in the Nat'l University with a 4. 6 GPA. She quickly got approved for a 10 year visa and She never gets questioned and depending on the arrival airport she sometimes just breezes thru the Kiosk. One time I was bringing back a friend from Costa Rica who has a questionable past was sent to secondary.

My personable opinion is when they scan your passport on arrival to Colombia or on my return home in the States. Only basic questions, reason for travel, how many days and welcome home! When they scan your passport they ALREADY know 90 % about you. So never lie because they will know it.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2980091] My girlfriend of Bogota is a very serious STEM major in the Nat'l University with a 4. 6 GPA.[/QUOTE]How can she have a 4. 6 GPA when the maximum GPA is a 4. 0?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2980074]What happened to you has nothing to do with the recent incident in Colombia.[/QUOTE]How do you know that? Do you have an insight into the customs agents?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2980074]It is not some people. It is one person, and his attempts at virtue signaling, customs likes me more than you all, are nothing new. Why you are virtue signaling at the same time you are talking about banging hookers and drinking like a fish is beyond me.[/QUOTE]You know absolutely nothing about me. You have never met me, and I doubt you know anyone who has met me. Your generalities about me shows your character, or lack of character.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2980149]How can she have a 4. 6 GPA when the maximum GPA is a 4. 0?[/QUOTE]Your ethnocentricity is showing here. Most unis in Colombia use a 5 point scale where anything under 3 is failing. Some use a 10 point scale.

[URL]https://www.scholaro.com/db/countries/Colombia/Grading-System[/URL]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2980149]How can she have a 4. 6 GPA when the maximum GPA is a 4. 0?[/QUOTE]The maximum where? It depends on the place. Some people have grade ranges from 0 to 5. Maybe her system is on a 5 point scale.

Also, it has been a very long time, but I remember being in high school and the AP classes weighing more than the regular classes. So it was possible to have over a 4. 0 GPA.

I do have a girl in Bogota that is in school and she told me last year that their grading system is up to 5.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2980255]You know absolutely nothing about me. You have never met me, and I doubt you know anyone who has met me. Your generalities about me shows your character, or lack of character.[/QUOTE]Uh, I was not talking about you.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2980255]How do you know that? Do you have an insight into the customs agents?[/QUOTE]Because myself and others had this happen before this incident with Trump.

Remember when I said I did not wish for your money to be taken from you? I take that back. When you are carrying four figures of cash in your pocket, make sure to tell customs all about it and make sure you are honest about the reason for your being in Colombia and describe in vivid detail all the women you fucked. In fact, it is best if you show them pictures of all the women you banged in the most graphic of details because when it comes to talking to customs, honesty is the best policy.

And it is a crime to lie to customs so make sure that you tell them the truth, the whole truth.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2980347]The maximum where? It depends on the place. Some people have grade ranges from 0 to 5. Maybe her system is on a 5 point scale.

Also, it has been a very long time, but I remember being in high school and the AP classes weighing more than the regular classes. So it was possible to have over a 4. 0 GPA.

I do have a girl in Bogota that is in school and she told me last year that their grading system is up to 5.[/QUOTE]Maybe I spoke too soon Mr. E. Upon further research, the National University in Colombia uses a 5. 0 scale so I will backtrack with my comment and correct but most people on this forum wouldn't even admit that they were wrong. Those are the arrogant idiots to watch out for. Thanks for your insight Bro.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2980255]How do you know that? Do you have an insight into the customs agents?[/QUOTE]You can always ask questions when you go through Customs. I have even gone to the office before when I had a question and posted about it here.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2980149]How can she have a 4. 6 GPA when the maximum GPA is a 4. 0?[/QUOTE]IN Colombia they operate on a 5. 0 scale.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2980437]Maybe I spoke too soon Mr. E. Upon further research, the National University in Colombia uses a 5. 0 scale so I will backtrack with my comment and correct but most people on this forum wouldn't even admit that they were wrong. Those are the arrogant idiots to watch out for. Thanks for your insight Bro.[/QUOTE]I for one appreciate that you admit your mistake and would just ask that you learn further by realizing you made the mistake because it's all Yew Ess all the time in your mind. 4.0 vs 5.0 is just another example of the metric system's innate superiority, for example. As Celsius is superior to Fahrenheit, etc.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2979889]They do not have to ask you verbatim. There are different ways of asking the same question, just like a personality test. I have been asked many times how much money I was carrying. I even have friends who US Customs have made count their money in the jetway as they were leaving the country.

I have never lied on this site. I have been saying for over 1 year that it is not mandatory to do that checkmig. How many people have not done the checkmig since then and have had no problem entering Colombia? Give bullshit information is something that I do not do sir.

I also can not state with any accuracy how many times I have entered a foreign country and gone through Customs, but with 2 valid US passports (one that has only 4 pages left and is still valid until 2030), I can assure you that it is much more than 100 in only the last few years.[/QUOTE]I think at some point in the past it "might" have been mandatory to do the checkmig. My ex wife got refused to proceed with her check in (USA to MDE) a couple of years ago until she went online, did it and then showed the lady at the ticket counter. I lived there for 10 years and only remember doing checkmig after moving back to the states in 2021. She didn't do it for her last trip a few weeks ago and said it wasn't necessary anymore.

But a few trips ago she was still doing it and somehow she got on a semi scam website that just fills your info out and submits it to checkmig for x amount of dollars. Her CC got declined for some reason (should have taken that as a sign) so I used mine, then later found out the website wasn't affiliated with the gov of Colombia and that Colombia doesn't even charge for checkmig. Did a charge back and they didn't dispute it but also kind of my fault for not being more careful.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2979843][URL]https://www.fedagent.com/news/deas-civilian-airport-search-and-seizure-program-suspended-after-ig-advisory[/URL]The issue was thrust into the public eye by a series of investigative reports from Atlanta News First which "uncovered how drug agents have been seizing anything over $5,000 if airline passengers can't prove on the spot that their own money didn't come from drug trafficking. ".The program used civil asset forfeiture to allow DEA agents to seize cash if the passenger was suspected of carrying illicit funds tied to the drug trade. The onus was then put on the passenger to prove it was not drug money, to get the funds back.In addition, most airport seizures did not result in criminal prosecutions. DEA even paid one airline employee tens of thousands of dollars in proceeds from cash seized as a result of tips.End of link.FL, in the future, I would not carry that much cash through. If you had more money on you, even a legal amount under $10,000, the agents may have kept it.[/QUOTE]That report also highlighted that some of those LE were just regular cops, not DEA. The confiscated money went to sheriffs dept. 's, etc. I have to pay my friggin rent in cash in Cali! Nice building but it must be a big ole washer! I make sure I have my currency exchange receipt with me when I bring big money.

[QUOTE=Garrapata;2983957]I think at some point in the past it "might" have been mandatory to do the checkmig. My ex wife got refused to proceed with her check in (USA to MDE) a couple of years ago until she went online, did it and then showed the lady at the ticket counter. I lived there for 10 years and only remember doing checkmig after moving back to the states in 2021. She didn't do it for her last trip a few weeks ago and said it wasn't necessary anymore.

But a few trips ago she was still doing it and somehow she got on a semi scam website that just fills your info out and submits it to checkmig for x amount of dollars. Her CC got declined for some reason (should have taken that as a sign) so I used mine, then later found out the website wasn't affiliated with the gov of Colombia and that Colombia doesn't even charge for checkmig. Did a charge back and they didn't dispute it but also kind of my fault for not being more careful.[/QUOTE]I still do it because It only takes me 2 minutes to do it. But it depends on the Airline. Delta has asked me in the past did you do the Check-mig, say yes and your good to go. But I've been on some flights and the agent at check in wants to see it before they would proceed. However as time passes on its seems less and less important. It's been a few years since I've been asked for it on arrival in Colombia.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2984312]I still do it because It only takes me 2 minutes to do it. But it depends on the Airline. Delta has asked me in the past did you do the Check-mig, say yes and your good to go. But I've been on some flights and the agent at check in wants to see it before they would proceed. However as time passes on its seems less and less important. It's been a few years since I've been asked for it on arrival in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Well, it used to be an issue that I could not get a boarding pass on line before a flight because airline needed to see the check MIG. I think the last time I was asked for this by Colombian agents was like 2 years ago. It was like 6 to 9 months ago with the airlines. So if the airlines are willing to give me a boarding pass, I do not worry about the check MIG.

I had not flown back to the USA since Trump got in office until recently. I have Global Entry and it was different. The agent held my passport and told me to get in a long line. I asked another person in the line if he had been through this before, and he too said he had not. No one told us what was going on. You just waited in this line until eventually your name is called. I would guess I was in line for like 45 minutes. My name was called and I was put in a group of 4 and we were asked if we had anything to declare. After that, your carry on and regular suitcase were put through a scanner. Then the agents give you your passport back, and you are on your way.

I am hoping this is just a one time thing where border agents were told to make extra sure people are not illegally entering our country. I hope once you get through this enhanced investigation the old rules apply. The agents were nice and respectful as were all the people in line.

Still, though, until this is known, if you have global entry, I would give yourself an extra hour to factor in when you go through customs. I had five hours between connections so it was no big deal, but if it were two, it would have been cutting it really close.

Hey where did Colombia go?

No reports for many days now. What gives?

Did all the business people go bankrupt and stop churning the board?

I tried to tell everyone, earn dollars and spend pesos.

Did all the tourists get killed, scoped or scared of the erupting wars throughout the country?

You were all duly forewarned.

Did the exchange rate price everyone out of the country?

Or has everyone decided that yes Studplayer was right and the best Colombianas are in harems in the arab world now?

Gabacho is the last one left still all hyped up on Colombia with his videos.

Gabacho, you are way late to the party. Everyone has moved on.

What is really funny is in his videos promoting Colombia as party central, Gabacho is surrounded by men men men and he is diggin it.

Truly hilarious.

What happened? Like everything they touch, gringos ruined it.

Anyway, here is the latest news from Colombia: Colombia is passe, yesterday's flavor, over, kaput.

When you get the number of gringas coming down to Colombia like you now see, you know the game is over.

And you got to feel sorry for the young families with young kids who could have gone to Aruba and actually have seen a Colombiana.

Dad is looking for the young chicas which are nowhere to be found on the street anymore and Mom is looking for a nice sandy beach.

And here is a llittle extra insight for everyone: Colombia has become a major gay and lesbian destination.

If you open your eyes, alll you see are men men men everywhere on the streets and almost no chicas.

So here is a hint where is next:

Sayonara.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2985786]Hey where did Colombia go?

No reports for many days now. What gives?

Did all the business people go bankrupt and stop churning the board?

I tried to tell everyone, earn dollars and spend pesos.

Did all the tourists get killed, scoped or scared of the erupting wars throughout the country?

You were all duly forewarned.

Did the exchange rate price everyone out of the country?

Or has everyone decided that yes Studplayer was right and the best Colombianas are in harems in the arab world now?[/QUOTE]What the hell are you going on about?

Either you have me confused with someone else or someone else must be using my name because I don't make any videos at all, let alone video promoting Colombia as a "party central" and I'm not on YouTube or TikTok or any place else where you might have seen these videos.

And how was I way late to the party? I've been going to Colombia since 2018 when I started going to Bogota.

And I'm definitely not surrounded by men men men. Where the hell are you getting this from? LOL.

If you actually followed my posts you would know that I have spread my wings and started exploring new places. I have posted extensively about my new experiences in Thailand, Philippines, and Indonesia.

In fact I have a plethora of posts about a super brothel in Jakarta called Classic where I spent 2 months and probably about $3 k usd in the last 2 months of 2024. Matter of Fact Classic blows anything in Medellin out of the water by a mile. Not even your overpriced Loutron, Isla or Gustos can compare to Classic. Imagine one brothel with over 200+ Asian women 18-25 years old and you can bareback CIP them all (well most of them anyways) for like $30 usd a pop. Then you take the elevator upstairs to the 5th floor and there is a whole nother brothel with like 50+ more women same price. And this is all inside a hotel with multiple bars are restaurants too all enclosed and air conditioned. And that's just one place of which there are many places with a similar set up including Travel and Kotah Inda Complex and literally hundreds of smaller "casa" type places spread out in a Metropolitan area of more than 30 million people.

So I don't know whose videos you saw but they damn sure weren't mine.

Gabacho.

I arrived in Orlando from Medellin (through Panama) Sunday evening. Everything was as it was in previous trips at immigration, a few questions about the purpose of travel and what I was bringing back. Terminal C (where almost all international flights arrive) at the Orlando airport is the poorest design of almost any airport I've traveled through. It's approximately a one half mile walk from an arriving gate to baggage claim, almost all an uphill grade. There are no elevators or moving walkways. It was about 45 minutes from the time the plane was parked at the gate until bags started arriving at baggage claim. The irony is, that is a new terminal. It's only been open for about a year.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2987540]I arrived in Orlando from Medellin (through Panama) Sunday evening. Everything was as it was in previous trips at immigration, a few questions about the purpose of travel and what I was bringing back. Terminal C (where almost all international flights arrive) at the Orlando airport is the poorest design of almost any airport I've traveled through. It's approximately a one half mile walk from an arriving gate to baggage claim, almost all an uphill grade. There are no elevators or moving walkways. It was about 45 minutes from the time the plane was parked at the gate until bags started arriving at baggage claim. The irony is, that is a new terminal. It's only been open for about a year.[/QUOTE]Just got back from Bog thru FLL one of my least airports.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2984411]Well, it used to be an issue that I could not get a boarding pass on line before a flight because airline needed to see the check MIG. I think the last time I was asked for this by Colombian agents was like 2 years ago. It was like 6 to 9 months ago with the airlines. So if the airlines are willing to give me a boarding pass, I do not worry about the check MIG.

I had not flown back to the USA since Trump got in office until recently. I have Global Entry and it was different. The agent held my passport and told me to get in a long line. I asked another person in the line if he had been through this before, and he too said he had not. No one told us what was going on. You just waited in this line until eventually your name is called. I would guess I was in line for like 45 minutes. My name was called and I was put in a group of 4 and we were asked if we had anything to declare. After that, your carry on and regular suitcase were put through a scanner. Then the agents give you your passport back, and you are on your way.

I am hoping this is just a one time thing where border agents were told to make extra sure people are not illegally entering our country. I hope once you get through this enhanced investigation the old rules apply. The agents were nice and respectful as were all the people in line.

Still, though, until this is known, if you have global entry, I would give yourself an extra hour to factor in when you go through customs. I had five hours between connections so it was no big deal, but if it were two, it would have been cutting it really close.[/QUOTE]On the way.

Thursday, no one ask for the Check-mig going or coming. I sat next to an American woman back from Bogota and and she said last flight a month ago, entering FLL the entire plane was funneled into a room and every single person was subjected to secondary search. This trip. Nothing! Normal 3 questions and welcome back. I have around 30 plus Colombia stamps in my passport and it never seems to cause me any static. Just goes to show you, they already know everything about you before you arrive.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2988963]
Thursday, no one ask for the Check-mig going or coming. I sat next to an American woman back from Bogota and and she said last flight a month ago, entering FLL the entire plane was funneled into a room and every single person was subjected to secondary search. This trip. Nothing! Normal 3 questions and welcome back. I have around 30 plus Colombia stamps in my passport and it never seems to cause me any static. Just goes to show you, they already know everything about you before you arrive.[/QUOTE]That is good to know.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2987540]I arrived in Orlando from Medellin (through Panama) Sunday evening. Everything was as it was in previous trips at immigration, a few questions about the purpose of travel and what I was bringing back. Terminal C (where almost all international flights arrive) at the Orlando airport is the poorest design of almost any airport I've traveled through. It's approximately a one half mile walk from an arriving gate to baggage claim, almost all an uphill grade. There are no elevators or moving walkways. It was about 45 minutes from the time the plane was parked at the gate until bags started arriving at baggage claim. The irony is, that is a new terminal. It's only been open for about a year.[/QUOTE]I have never had that long of a walk, but I have never flown Copa to Orlando. I am gold on spirit and prefer Orlando to Lauderdale. The Lauderdale terminal that Spirit is in does not have that much in the way of amenities. Also, Lauderdale has at times been so overwhelmed with people that passengers have been forced to sit on the plane until the lines shrink. Longest time was 30 minutes, and that was a while ago.

It is not like the agents at Lauderdale are so bad. It is just that Orlando is such a tourist town I think the agents are forced to be a lot more welcoming. They are way more pleasant. The waiting time for bags IMO is about the same. Thing is when you have a layover Orlando has way more shops and restaurants open to all. The problem with the Miami and Lauderdale is some of the best restaurants and shops are in terminals you cannot get to, and Miami is the airport that is so big I had to walk seemingly forever.

LatAM has a nonstop to Cartagena through Atlanta. I may try them next time just to mix things up.

Just got back, JFK to CTG round trip.

There for no email about checkMIG, no one asked at bag drop or at the gate.

On arrival getting through immigration was a nightmare, 3 hours standing in the line. Apparently 2 planes landed in front of mine then 2 more behind mine. At first there were 5 agents working then down to 4. The line was so long it wrapped around all the way where they usually have the Cartagena ATV tour billboard sized AD back down to the bathroom, outside the airport and down the walkway. Once we cleared immigration mostly everyone was pissed, there was no Don Julio in Duty Free. Everyone was looking for it.

On the way back it took about an hour to get through the line. BioMIG and people failure to follow instructions!

They had 2 agents working the booth and I believe 4 agents working the bioMIG. I don't understand why people could not understand, scan the passport, wait, punch in the flight number, wait, move your face close enough so the camera can take a picture of your eyes (not your face, just the eyes), wait, then proceed when the gate opens. This shit was taking 10 minutes a person because they couldn't understand the picture of the eyes part. And what kills me is that they were on the line watching people do it making mistakes and they get up to the machines and repeat the same mistakes.

There was an email about contact tracing but I just ignored it.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2991317]Just got back, JFK to CTG round trip.

On the way back it took about an hour to get through the line. BioMIG and people failure to follow instructions!

They had 2 agents working the booth and I believe 4 agents working the bioMIG. I don't understand why people could not understand, scan the passport, wait, punch in the flight number, wait, move your face close enough so the camera can take a picture of your eyes (not your face, just the eyes), wait, then proceed when the gate opens.[/QUOTE]When I went through BioMIG in MDE, I tried getting close enough so only my eyes were inside the outlines on the camera. I was too close. An agent assisted me and told me to move further back from the camera. That worked, but I moved away after the first snap of the camera. That was not good. I had to go through the complete procedure again, and stayed in front of the camera until it turned green. The camera snapped two or three times.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2988963]On the way.

Thursday, no one ask for the Check-mig going or coming.[/QUOTE]Man for the past year I have been saying on here that I have not filled that checkmig out.

Spirit and United airlines will ask for it if you are flying out of Newark for sure. It takes less than 30 seconds to fill it out. What is the big deal?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991549]Man for the past year I have been saying on here that I have not filled that checkmig out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2991753]Spirit and United airlines will ask for it if you are flying out of Newark for sure. It takes less than 30 seconds to fill it out. What is the big deal?[/QUOTE]If the website worked consistently it wouldn't be such a big deal. About 30 percent of the time the website doesn't work. Colombian websites in general are just shit.

I travel to Medellin just about every 2 months for the past 6 years (except during the pandemic). There have been some outages but not to the extend some make it sound.

It takes me 20 seconds to fill it out once I have my flight info and passport at hand. I never had a situation where I could not access it before my flight.

Spirit and United will check and not let you board at least out of Newark, They asked me for it late January.

A child can fill it out, it is that simple.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2991776]If the website worked consistently it wouldn't be such a big deal. About 30 percent of the time the website doesn't work. Colombian websites in general are just shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2991783]I travel to Medellin just about every 2 months for the past 6 years (except during the pandemic). There have been some outages but not to the extend some make it sound.

It takes me 20 seconds to fill it out once I have my flight info and passport at hand. I never had a situation where I could not access it before my flight.

Spirit and United will check and not let you board at least out of Newark, They asked me for it late January.

A child can fill it out, it is that simple.[/QUOTE]Your experience is much different than mine. Good for you. Bad for me. I'm just happy that they don't ask anymore.

I take spirit all the time and they haven't asked me for a few years now. I fly them about 3 times a year to Bogota. Anpther data point. Take it for what you will.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2991783]I travel to Medellin just about every 2 months for the past 6 years (except during the pandemic). There have been some outages but not to the extend some make it sound.

It takes me 20 seconds to fill it out once I have my flight info and passport at hand. I never had a situation where I could not access it before my flight.

A child can fill it out, it is that simple.[/QUOTE]The problem was never with filling it out. The problem was it never working. And if this many people had problems with something that was supposed to be mandatory then there is no excuse. The reliability of the site is probably why they stopped making it mandatory. I go to Colombia often and more times than not I had to screenshot where it went wrong so I could show it was not me not filling it out, but the site that was on the fritz.

I can only tell you that Spirit and United require it coming out of Newark. If the readers don't want to take the 20 seconds to fill out the form, it is up to them. They can always tell the airline check-in that Mr. Enternational said it wasn't required.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991938]The problem was never with filling it out. The problem was it never working. And if this many people had problems with something that was supposed to be mandatory then there is no excuse. The reliability of the site is probably why they stopped making it mandatory. I go to Colombia often and more times than not I had to screenshot where it went wrong so I could show it was not me not filling it out, but the site that was on the fritz.[/QUOTE]

It appears Davivienda ATMs change the exchange rate at maybe 5 pm. Yesterday, I withdrew from the ATM at 5:17 pm and the exchange rate was 4387.94. That was strange because the Visa rate was 4374.53. Today I withdrew at 1:41 pm and the rate was the same as yesterday, 4387.94. Today's Visa rate is 4387.98. I'm guessing they change at 5 pm, but it may be some time before that.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2987540] Terminal C (where almost all international flights arrive) at the Orlando airport is the poorest design of almost any airport I've traveled through. It's approximately a one half mile walk from an arriving gate to baggage claim, almost all an uphill grade. There are no elevators or moving walkways. It was about 45 minutes from the time the plane was parked at the gate until bags started arriving at baggage claim. The irony is, that is a new terminal. It's only been open for about a year.[/QUOTE]The mayor there, "Flubby Tire" Dyer is on the airport committee and responsible for this terminal / concourse see. They want to see if you can walk the long distance without collapsing from drugs, prescription overdose, etc. Sometimes they have dogs along the way to sniff your baggage or your undies and smell if you have been a bad boy while out of the country. My Puerto Rican platoon sergeant in the army, whenever he came home, his wife made him pull out his penis, and she would sniff it, to smell if it had a women's pussy smell on it. True!

Coming back from Cali, Colombia, I once had my stomach x-rayed upon leaving, I must look or act like a drug mule. True!

You are in a sensitive zone, while in an airport. One complaint from you and you will be quickly suspected, snatched and transported to a maximum-security prison in El Salvador. True! Even if you are there falsely you may not be able to return.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2996428]My Puerto Rican platoon sergeant in the army, whenever he came home, his wife made him pull out his penis, and she would sniff it, to smell if it had a women's pussy smell on it. True![/QUOTE]When I was married I used to bathe in my car's exhaust before I went home.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2996428]Coming back from Cali, Colombia, I once had my stomach x-rayed upon leaving, I must look or act like a drug mule. True![/QUOTE]In the Medellin airport I was taken in a back room to do the same thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2996442]When I was married I used to bathe in my car's exhaust before I went home. [/QUOTE]Genius Mr. E. !

I had a fantastic experience in both Sao Paolo and Rio in 2024. However, I have always wanted to experience Colombia, but am afraid after reading up on the dangers. I have a stop in Bueno Saires and Bogota, but 14 days of free time in between. Would you who know Latin America advise me to immediately repeat Brazil or explore new areas in Colombia? I can't figure out where in Colombia it is best. I don't like to be afraid, but I'm not a complete wimp and I'm used to traveling. Since I have to go to Bogota for a few days and could stay there longer if I feel like it, would you drop Medellin, Cali, Cartagena? I'm looking for young spinners and don't spend money on older ladies I could get "for free" in Europe. I hope you with experience will give me some good advice. I know tastes are different, but I'm trying to make a plan. I haven't been to Bueno Saires in 10 years and I see from the reports that there have been big changes. In Brazil I always found something I liked every night. And unfortunately I am picky so the hunt is a challenge in places in the world where the really hot ladies are far apart. I have been to Tijuana and although anyone with money will succeed there, it is still the best I have experienced and I have never seen so many delicate girls gathered in one place. My experience in Mexico City was a letdown in comparison. Thanks for any good suggestions.

[QUOTE=James006;3025497]Since I have to go to Bogota for a few days and could stay there longer if I feel like it, would you drop Medellin, Cali, Cartagena?[/QUOTE]You have 14 days. Why not go to all of them?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3025506]You have 14 days. Why not go to all of them?[/QUOTE]Personally, Cartagena is much too hot for me. Big Gabriel García Marquéz fan but no.

I haven't been able to sign into the USA board for weeks. I keep getting this bad gateway era. Any thoughts as the board closed?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;3025875]I haven't been able to sign into the USA board for weeks. I keep getting this bad gateway era. Any thoughts as the board closed?[/QUOTE]Change https to http in website URL.

Any advice or suggestions for places that cater to couples? Is it strange to go to a brothel with your partner or is it no problem?

I also thought Tijuana was the best thing since sliced bread until I visited Medellin.

[QUOTE=James006;3025497]I had a fantastic experience in both Sao Paolo and Rio in 2024. However, I have always wanted to experience Colombia, but am afraid after reading up on the dangers. I have a stop in Bueno Saires and Bogota, but 14 days of free time in between. Would you who know Latin America advise me to immediately repeat Brazil or explore new areas in Colombia? I can't figure out where in Colombia it is best. I don't like to be afraid, but I'm not a complete wimp and I'm used to traveling. Since I have to go to Bogota for a few days and could stay there longer if I feel like it, would you drop Medellin, Cali, Cartagena? I'm looking for young spinners and don't spend money on older ladies I could get "for free" in Europe. I hope you with experience will give me some good advice. I know tastes are different, but I'm trying to make a plan. I haven't been to Bueno Saires in 10 years and I see from the reports that there have been big changes. In Brazil I always found something I liked every night. And unfortunately I am picky so the hunt is a challenge in places in the world where the really hot ladies are far apart. I have been to Tijuana and although anyone with money will succeed there, it is still the best I have experienced and I have never seen so many delicate girls gathered in one place. My experience in Mexico City was a letdown in comparison. Thanks for any good suggestions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Meliqua;3026852]Any advice or suggestions for places that cater to couples? Is it strange to go to a brothel with your partner or is it no problem?[/QUOTE]The former.

I'm sorry to ask this question but I have to. Please believe me I did try to search the form before. First time going.

Is it customary and Cartagena to pay before or after?

I'm apologizing on the front end because some people are going to respond with go read the forums and please believe me I did try searching for it. Thank you for the help guys.

[QUOTE=Meliqua;3026852]Any advice or suggestions for places that cater to couples? Is it strange to go to a brothel with your partner or is it no problem?[/QUOTE]In Medellin it's fairly common to see couples entering strip clubs and sitting / drinking with chicas. I don't have a good feel for whether it's typical for them to them to then head to a room on-site for a threesome.

[QUOTE=LightWorkB;3027847]I'm sorry to ask this question but I have to. Please believe me I did try to search the form before. First time going.

Is it customary and Cartagena to pay before or after?

I'm apologizing on the front end because some people are going to respond with go read the forums and please believe me I did try searching for it. Thank you for the help guys.[/QUOTE]Its never a good idea to pay first no matter where you are.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3027964]In Medellin it's fairly common to see couples entering strip clubs and sitting / drinking with chicas. I don't have a good feel for whether it's typical for them to them to then head to a room on-site for a threesome.[/QUOTE]Strip clubs. Not brothels.

[QUOTE=LightWorkB;3027847]Is it customary and Cartagena to pay before or after?[/QUOTE]Anywhere you go on this planet you pay a freelancer after, or you are begging to get ripped off. Only pay before if it is an organized establishment where it is known that you pay before.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;3027973]Its never a good idea to pay first no matter where you are.[/QUOTE]I live in Cali and that only happened to me once thus far. I gave her the money, but told her to GTFO. I only paid because I didn't want any further problems. She was recommended by a dude I know, but that only confirmed to me that he is a fuckin liar. Even if she does fuck, you have just given up total control, and she can lay stiff as a board.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;3028017]She was recommended by a dude I know, but that only confirmed to me that he is a fuckin liar.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. Remember YMMV. That is why I do not get the recommendation stuff. Show me where the chicks are and I will pick my own. I could only put up with my kid's mom for 2 years, but she has now been with her husband for 25 years. Maybe he is somewhere calling me a fuckin liar since his experience was not the same as mine.

[QUOTE=LightWorkB;3027847]I'm sorry to ask this question but I have to. Please believe me I did try to search the form before. First time going.

Is it customary and Cartagena to pay before or after?

I'm apologizing on the front end because some people are going to respond with go read the forums and please believe me I did try searching for it. Thank you for the help guys.[/QUOTE]Pay after, and pay them the agreed amount. Anything above the agreed amount is on you.

If you are asked for payment before, you kindly ask them to leave. Its up to you if you want to give them taxi money or walk them outside and pay the taxi directly. But to avoid an argument or a problem it is best to just pay the taxi.

I'm going to be visiting Colombia for the first time in a few weeks. I don't speak any Spanish.

I've travelled a lot (80+ countries) and have done plenty of mongering in Europe and Asia (and a couple of experiences in Paraguay) but I've never been to Colombia before.

Now, ordinarily, I'd look through these forums for info and advice but the Colombia boards seem to be full of a lot of general chit-chat and despite going back a bunch of pages on a few of the boards, I didn't really learn much.

I think I'm correct in believing Medellin is Colombia's best destination for the hobby. Is there a best area to stay in (from a general tourist perspective, not necessarily for girls.).

I like college-age spinners. What are the best websites to look at? I've been looking at mileroticos, but I'm a little dubious of it. A few girls that I've bookmarked have been swapped with someone completely different the next time I've gone to look.

I'm not into pick-up bars at all. I prefer to pick a girl online and make a booking, or go to a brothel and pick a girl from a line up.

Are there any alternative options?

How do cute cafe / shop workers respond to being chatted up if I'm very clearly only interested in fucking them? How likely is it for a random college-age girl to accept money for sex with a gringo?

How's the erotic massage scene in Colombia? Particularly for prostate massages.

And importantly, how safe is mongering in Colombia? I mean, I'm not an idiot but I feel that Colombia has a general reputation for being more dangerous than most places I've been to. Besides obvious stupidity, is there anything I should avoid doing when seeking sex?

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3030149]How do cute cafe / shop workers respond to being chatted up if I'm very clearly only interested in fucking them? [/QUOTE]Unfortunately, if you are not speaking Spanish then you are not going to be chatting anyone up. Paraguay is one of the two Latin American countries that I have not been to, but I assume it is the same there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3030154]Unfortunately, if you are not speaking Spanish then you are not going to be chatting anyone up. Paraguay is one of the two Latin American countries that I have not been to, but I assume it is the same there.[/QUOTE]You'd be surprised how easy it can be to chat people up without speaking a word of the language. Nevertheless, I feel too conspicuous going on "dates" with girls half my age and am really only interested in paying them for sex, in which case the language will likely be a barrier. But that's not a big deal providing there are other options.

Do you have any info on my other queries?

I read mention of a "map of casas" but it was for Bogota. Is there one for Medellin?

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3030185]You'd be surprised how easy it can be to chat people up without speaking a word of the language.[/QUOTE]I guess I would be because for one people are not just standing idly around like that for you to be going back and forth trying to translate things.

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3030185]Nevertheless, I feel too conspicuous going on "dates" with girls half my age and am really only interested in paying them for sex,[/QUOTE]I tend to date people for real. I am 53 and last night I went out with a chick who is 22. There was no conspicuousness about it. I told her mom on video that she would stay with me last night. Her mom said no but that I could come stay at their house. That is not unusual for me around here. Almost 20 years ago I had a girlfriend who just turned 18 and her parents used to like me to stay at their house.

If I just want to pay someone for sex then I go where I know I can easily pay for it.

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3030185]Do you have any info on my other queries?[/QUOTE]Throughout the Medellin thread you will see places like New Life, Barra Ejecutiva, Amigas Sexy, Zandalay, etc. Those are casas / brothels. Pretty much every place you see named except Gustos will be what you are looking for. Put casa in the search bar and the reports with those places should come up. I have had no problem with mileroticos. If you see the pictures have changed then it is more than likely because the ad and contact number is of a casa / brothel where there are multiple women.

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3030185]You'd be surprised how easy it can be to chat people up without speaking a word of the language.[/QUOTE]Yes, tremendously surprised. Neighborhood-wise, I would recommend Laureles.

Homicide news very close to Santa Fe clubs.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sUw74DoegeM[/URL]

No where is safe in SF.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3030197]I guess I would be because for one people are not just standing idly around like that for you to be going back and forth trying to translate things.[/QUOTE]I'm not claiming I can chat up any girl in any surroundings (far from it) but a lot of girls find it charming that you're making the effort to talk with them without knowing the language. Being willing to look a fool can go a long way.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3030197]I tend to date people for real. I am 53 and last night I went out with a chick who is 22. There was no conspicuousness about it. I told her mom on video that she would stay with me last night. Her mom said no but that I could come stay at their house. That is not unusual for me around here. Almost 20 years ago I had a girlfriend who just turned 18 and her parents used to like me to stay at their house.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to lie, fucking a girl less than half my age while her parents are in the next room sounds like a huge turn on, but I'm not really interested in "dating" anyone on this trip. I doubt many parents would be too keen on me popping over to drain myself inside their daughter and then leaving, never to see them again.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3030197]Throughout the Medellin thread you will see places like New Life, Barra Ejecutiva, Amigas Sexy, Zandalay, etc. Those are casas / brothels. Pretty much every place you see named except Gustos will be what you are looking for. Put casa in the search bar and the reports with those places should come up. I have had no problem with mileroticos. If you see the pictures have changed then it is more than likely because the ad and contact number is of a casa / brothel where there are multiple women.[/QUOTE]Cool. Thanks for the tips.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3030216]I would recommend Laureles.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'd read Laureles was nice but I was under the impression it was an expat area, rather than being especially convenient from a tourist perspective. Is that assumption incorrect?

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3030367]Yeah, I'd read Laureles was nice but I was under the impression it was an expat area, rather than being especially convenient from a tourist perspective. Is that assumption incorrect?[/QUOTE]I mostly stay downtown. Two times I have not stayed downtown, I have stayed in Laureles. There really isn't an expat area. Expats stay all over. The tourist area is Poblado. The only thing different about there is that there are tourist prices for accommodations and food. As far as anything being convenient from a tourist perspective, I would say they are all the same. The difference I would say is that if you are up in the hood somewhere it takes longer to get the rideshare to come amd of course there are less restaurants and stuff. But Laureles is just as good for tourists as Poblado.

[QUOTE=Jicks;3030286]Homicide news very close to Santa Fe clubs.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sUw74DoegeM[/URL]

No where is safe in SF.[/QUOTE]The guy was not just randomly killed. That is just like saying Utah Valley University is not safe because Charlie Kirk got killed there or The Ford Theater is not safe because President Lincoln got killed there. Those were targeted hits, not random acts of violence.

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3030367]Yeah, I'd read Laureles was nice but I was under the impression it was an expat area, rather than being especially convenient from a tourist perspective. Is that assumption incorrect?[/QUOTE]Yes, incorrect. It is a normal, somewhat upscale area populated 98% by Colombians. I recommend it because it is reasonably safe, reasonably central, and has good restaurants and shopping.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3030371]The guy was not just randomly killed. That is just like saying Utah Valley University is not safe because Charlie Kirk got killed there or The Ford Theater is not safe because President Lincoln got killed there. Those were targeted hits, not random acts of violence.[/QUOTE]Yep, I agree with you-- the clubs and probably everything else is cartels-- a club owner was hit while driving in SF a few yrs back.

[QUOTE=Jicks;3030286]Homicide news very close to Santa Fe clubs.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sUw74DoegeM[/URL]

No where is safe in SF.[/QUOTE]Basic safety: don't drink or drug with locals and girls, modest=old clothes, don't stand out from the crowd, don't attract attention. Don't think that you are the coolest guy, and forget about North American attitude that you can say whatever you want because the police are protecting you. One murder in the area doesn't mean anything, people die in car accidents more often. If you get robbed, it's not fatal either. Say thanks for the experience and go home and enjoy life.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3030404]Yes, incorrect. It is a normal, somewhat upscale area populated 98% by Colombians. I recommend it because it is reasonably safe, reasonably central, and has good restaurants and shopping.[/QUOTE]And some might prefer it because it's relatively flat which makes for easier walking. Which is unusual in Medellin.

Yo. I know we don't talk politics here, so just a brief note and check on what y'all think the current events. Which directly affects our travel to Col especially Mde. Is it safer to not take a trip there? Especially with the heavy headbutts happening between Prez Petro and Ours? Heck based on a YT vid, one of the guys held up and interrogated at the Airport was told by the officer that they're doing that bc of what our guy is doing in the WH to them. Like the crack down against dr. You GS or the cash subsidy being withheld. Even a US passport revocation of Prez Petro LOL. I mean he got to feel some kind of way that he can't travel to the US yet its citizens are still coming. Retaliation makes sense.

If you already live there, you prob don't gaf as I wouldn't. But what's the take and feel on those not on the ground right now?

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3033172]Yo. I know we don't talk politics here, so just a brief note and check on what y'all think the current events. Which directly affects our travel to Col especially Mde. Is it safer to not take a trip there? Especially with the heavy headbutts happening between Prez Petro and Ours? Heck based on a YT vid, one of the guys held up and interrogated at the Airport was told by the officer that they're doing that bc of what our guy is doing in the WH to them. Like the crack down against dr. You GS or the cash subsidy being withheld. Even a US passport revocation of Prez Petro LOL. I mean he got to feel some kind of way that he can't travel to the US yet its citizens are still coming. Retaliation makes sense.[/QUOTE]Regardless of what you hear in the news, there is still major economic trade between Colombia and the United States. So there is a lot of regular travel, not just for tourism, but also for business and even for families. The Colombian peso remains quite strong against the USA Dollar compared to how it was a year ago, and the current news haven't changed it much. There are always people pulled aside at customs who just don't feel or look right. And there are always custom officers who will claim whatever reason for it. I don't think that there is any current action happening directly because of the politics between both countries. And by the way, President Petro can travel to the USA In his role as President of Colombia. He cannot, however, travel as a private visitor, which he wasn't planning to do since he is President. In other words, the visa that they pulled was his personal travel visa, not his diplomatic one. When something real happens that actually affects the Colombian economy in a significant way, I think you will see it by a significant change in the exchange rate beyond the current small dips and rises.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3032930]Concerning Immigration at MDE, my next trip, I will enter Colombia via Bogot, not because of possible searches at MDE, but because MDE Immigration has multi-hour lines. Last time I went, there was only one person working Immigration at MDE.[/QUOTE]How long ago was that? Because recent reports indicate that they seem to have added extra people and the lines have gotten a lot shorter.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3033290]Regardless of what you hear in the news, there is still major economic trade between Colombia and the United States. So there is a lot of regular travel, not just for tourism, but also for business and even for families. The Colombian peso remains quite strong against the USA Dollar compared to how it was a year ago, and the current news haven't changed it much. There are always people pulled aside at customs who just don't feel or look right. And there are always custom officers who will claim whatever reason for it. I don't think that there is any current action happening directly because of the politics between both countries. And by the way, President Petro can travel to the USA In his role as President of Colombia. He cannot, however, travel as a private visitor, which he wasn't planning to do since he is President. In other words, the visa that they pulled was his personal travel visa, not his diplomatic one. When something real happens that actually affects the Colombian economy in a significant way, I think you will see it by a significant change in the exchange rate beyond the current small dips and rises.[/QUOTE]While I am indeed an optimist, I think you're downplaying this a bit. I wasn't sure if there was a diff in Petro's personal or Diplomatic visa now tht you mentioned it, and it's actually all his access that's revoked incl Diplomatic after I searched. Then the Col foreign minister also voluntarily renounced her visa, and Petro rebutted that he doesn't care and has Intl access to any UN base and that's that. You talk of trade, and you already know higher tariffs are next. Just like China and that's already in the works, per the devil's mouth himself. In January I lost a shitload amount in my investments in the market bc I was thinking like you, was nonchalant about the tariffs blah blah. Then market went to crap and incurred extremely huge losses. This dude in our WH doesn't play and shit is boiling w Colombia. Two days 10/19 he said prez Petro's an illegal drug dealer, already signed exec order to suspend funds, and also to increase trade tariffs. Hasn't taken effect yet and it's why the COL peso didn't tank yet. We about to have a disaster. Already in the works.

Just saying I'd have more of a watchful eye while I still hope your right and I can come spend another 6 Months as usual Come December.

Anyone knows where are these 2 places in Colombia, that PovMan uses for his porn movies?

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3033340]In January I lost a shitload amount in my investments in the market bc I was thinking like you, was nonchalant about the tariffs blah blah. Then market went to crap and incurred extremely huge losses.[/QUOTE]If you weren't invested in international funds, did you leave your investments as they were? The market has hit all time highs numerous times in the past month, much higher than they were in January / February. I'm disappointed I didn't invest during that downturn. I even mentioned to someone that I planned to invest.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3033705]If you weren't invested in international funds, did you leave your investments as they were? The market has hit all time highs numerous times in the past month, much higher than they were in January / February. I'm disappointed I didn't invest during that downturn. I even mentioned to someone that I planned to invest.[/QUOTE]All is well now for sure. I was referring to back in Jan when he took office, started talking about first actions being strict tariffs, trade wars, and many didn't take him seriously and then walstreet got hurt but Asian markets got crippled badly. Just saying to take the man to his words sometimes; Like what's happening now with the US, VZ and Col isn't just rumors, real crap is being boiled and Colombia's eco's about to go to sht, or serious retaliation could be in effect. So expats living there or US citizens traveling to Col should be careful.

There is a pharmacy in Laureles-Estadio that has two 50 MG tablets of sildenafil for 2 mil, about 25 cents a tablet. They work as well as any others for me. Name: Super Pharma, Calle 44 A #72-14. It's open from 8 am to 8 pm.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3033905]Like what's happening now with the US, VZ and Col isn't just rumors, real crap is being boiled and Colombia's eco's about to go to sht, or serious retaliation could be in effect. So expats living there or US citizens traveling to Col should be careful.[/QUOTE]Looks like you are a side of caution person. Myself, I am an only live once person. Just like during covid when folks were scared to go outside. Meanwhile I was in Santa Fe and downtown Medellin without a poke. My advice as always is to turn off the TV and internet and go see what folks are doing outside in the real world. I am in Bogota on my way to Cartagena and everything is the same as it always has been. Most people here would have no idea of what you are even talking about. Big difference between government shit and regular everyday people shit.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3033905]All is well now for sure. I was referring to back in Jan when he took office, started talking about first actions being strict tariffs, trade wars, and many didn't take him seriously and then walstreet got hurt but Asian markets got crippled badly. Just saying to take the man to his words sometimes; Like what's happening now with the US, VZ and Col isn't just rumors, real crap is being boiled and Colombia's eco's about to go to sht, or serious retaliation could be in effect. So expats living there or US citizens traveling to Col should be careful.[/QUOTE]LatAm has a very long history of hating the American government and loving Americans. Especially American dollars.

What is happening al sites in Colombia are down, the only one online is [URL]https://escortscolombia.com.co[/URL] the rest are all down any update?

[QUOTE=JS1991;3038133]What is happening al sites in Colombia are down, the only one online is [URL]https://escortscolombia.com.co[/URL] the rest are all down any update?[/QUOTE]Seems to be working fine on my end.

[QUOTE=JS1991;3038133]What is happening al sites in Colombia are down, the only one online is [URL]https://escortscolombia.com.co[/URL] the rest are all down any update?[/QUOTE]Naw. All the sites in Colombia are not down. Something is either wrong on your end or you are doing something wrong. Maybe you are just trying to push people to that site you just promoted, I mean posted.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3038137]Seems to be working fine on my end.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr E, out of the 5 total post on that person's profile, 4 of the post are promoting Escort Sites. He just wanted to post click bait and promote that Escort Site.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;3033511]Anyone knows where are these 2 places in Colombia, that PovMan uses for his porn movies?[/QUOTE]The one with the chick sunning herself on the net looks like the place I rented on the top of the hill, I think it was the honeymoon suite or the presidents room I for get but it was high in any case the one I was at was he villa Marie Tayrona. A great place to stay and the couple who run the hotel are great.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3033292]How long ago was that? Because recent reports indicate that they seem to have added extra people and the lines have gotten a lot shorter.[/QUOTE]I've been thru imagination 40 0 r 50 times at 3 or 4 different airports in Colombia Most thru Bogota. I've never been sent to secondary, anywhere in Colombia despite 6 7 times a year for a week at a time it's My personal feeling is when they scan your passport they already know everything about you. If you get yanked out of line its because there is something in you messages very rarely is it random.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;3038186]I've been thru imagination 40 0 r 50 times at 3 or 4 different airports in Colombia Most thru Bogota. I've never been sent to secondary, anywhere in Colombia despite 6 7 times a year for a week at a time it's My personal feeling is when they scan your passport they already know everything about you. If you get yanked out of line its because there is something in you messages very rarely is it random.[/QUOTE]I would like to agree with this statement. I also blame, and really hate Passport Bros!

I have only been to CTG once, and MDE twice, and I live in Cali. The dude that got turned away in MDE that was on DC Robs YT channel had some pills with no prescription and they were loosely in his luggage. Dude, WTF were you thinkin? "Well, I'm a PP Bro with a cam ready to get views to pay for my trip, daba, daba!

PP bros have ruined it for everyone by sticking cams in peoples faces (while thier eating of all fucking things!, - yes you dude, you know who you are!) Too stupid to get a job and take vacation. "I'm a just get a YT channel and film girls with big titties, daba, daba!

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;3038349]I would like to agree with this statement. I also blame, and really hate Passport Bros!

I have only been to CTG once, and MDE twice, and I live in Cali. The dude that got turned away in MDE that was on DC Robs YT channel had some pills with no prescription and they were loosely in his luggage. Dude, WTF were you thinkin? "Well, I'm a PP Bro with a cam ready to get views to pay for my trip, daba, daba!

PP bros have ruined it for everyone by sticking cams in peoples faces (while thier eating of all fucking things!, - yes you dude, you know who you are!) Too stupid to get a job and take vacation. "I'm a just get a YT channel and film girls with big titties, daba, daba![/QUOTE]People who are being denied entry are not being truthful. Many are flagged before the plane even lands, it's kinda fucked up that they lose the money on the flight and accommodations they already paid for but that's what happens when they want to be felons or play with little kids. Was that the same guy who had the 2 large boxes of condoms and the dick pills? Lmao such an idiot trying that in MDE.

Can't blame Passport Bros, blame the EBeggers who are constantly posting things on the internet, making crash out content and begging for money.

I wonder where all those people are who kept saying CTG and MDE was too big to mess up like Sosua. When idiots are given enough time and they can accomplish anything.

I don't know where to post this. I am thinking of canceling or postponing a 3 week trip in April for Bogota, Medellin & Cartagena. Because of the flooding and coastal disasters. It's still 7 weeks away. Weather projections do not sound good.

Scopaline, thieves and traffic don't worry me but constant rain (streets flooding etc. Makes me wonder if the girls, the outdoor tourism and sightseeing will be accessible. I have read that beaches are closed currently. What do you guys think about Medellin in April? Will the sun come out? I don't want bad experiences due to the weather.

I do not want to debate if the form is still needed or not. I just want to fill it out. I reach the point that they ask fur a valadation number, I give them the number and they say it is invalid. I done it many times with no luck, Help please.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;3059788]I do not want to debate if the form is still needed or not. I just want to fill it out. I reach the point that they ask fur a valadation number, I give them the number and they say it is invalid. I done it many times with no luck, Help please.[/QUOTE]I filled out the Check-mig form last week without a problem, using the code they emailed to me. I did it on a computer. If you're doing it on your phone, that may be the issue.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;3059788]I do not want to debate if the form is still needed or not. I just want to fill it out. I reach the point that they ask fur a valadation number, I give them the number and they say it is invalid. I done it many times with no luck, Help please.[/QUOTE]I was there last week and yes, I was asked to see the form when I entered. I used my desktop.

Returning, I filled out the form on my cell phone, but I was not ask to show the completed form.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3059832]I was there last week and yes, I was asked to see the form when I entered. I used my desktop.

Returning, I filled out the form on my cell phone, but I was not ask to show the completed form.[/QUOTE]It took forever but I got it done. As I am an old school guy I got the hard copy.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3038354]People who are being denied entry are not being truthful. Many are flagged before the plane even lands, it's kinda fucked up that they lose the money on the flight and accommodations they already paid for but that's what happens when they want to be felons or play with little kids. Was that the same guy who had the 2 large boxes of condoms and the dick pills? Lmao such an idiot trying that in MDE.

Can't blame Passport Bros, blame the EBeggers who are constantly posting things on the internet, making crash out content and begging for money.

I wonder where all those people are who kept saying CTG and MDE was too big to mess up like Sosua. When idiots are given enough time and they can accomplish anything.[/QUOTE]I think guys are being profiled before they even land. Guys (like me) who are seniors with ten thousand posts on ISG in every What's app andf telegram group in Colombia You think the government doesn't know who you are?

Actually even a senior poster who comes down and either goes straight to a casa or to their rotations built up over time ain't the problem it's the super kinky guys who act like they just got out of a lifetime sentence in a Sex Prison. Again you come down fuck in Casas or some selected semipros no harm no foul But guys obsessing chasing true non pros or living at the Clock Tower or Parque Llreas is the problem.

The Government knows who you are and if you have a thousand sex toys in your carryon you're making it way too easy to get singled out.

Just practice a ounce of discretion for your protection and you won't be in Migratcion Colombia's selection.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Just checking if I can post without being a paid member, trying to plan trip please msg with any good info will try to read forum.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3060200]I think guys are being profiled before they even land. Guys (like me) who are seniors with ten thousand posts on ISG in every What's app andf telegram group in Colombia You think the government doesn't know who you are?

Actually even a senior poster who comes down and either goes straight to a casa or to their rotations built up over time ain't the problem it's the super kinky guys who act like they just got out of a lifetime sentence in a Sex Prison. Again you come down fuck in Casas or some selected semipros no harm no foul But guys obsessing chasing true non pros or living at the Clock Tower or Parque Llreas is the problem.

The Government knows who you are and if you have a thousand sex toys in your carryon you're making it way too easy to get singled out..[/QUOTE]A good site to see which tourists are getting denied entry and why, and whose getting deported and why.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/migracioncol/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nypher;3062249]A good site to see which tourists are getting denied entry and why, and whose getting deported and why.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/migracioncol/[/URL][/QUOTE]I get it but basically they're profiling guys. I live here and even if I didn't I don't have working girls in my phone as cherished keepsakes to brag to the guys back home about my 15 minutes with a third world trollop.

That being said they're just pretending to ¨crackdown¨ because it plays well to the locals worried about cost of living. Again I do think that a guy who ca't answer a simple question on what brings him to Medellin without saying that they're going for the gusto in Gusto's probably should be turned around and pointed toward Sosua before they end of getting drugged and robbed.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3060200]Just practice an ounce of discretion for your protection and you won't be in Migratcion Colombia's selection.[/QUOTE]Would traveling with just a single box of condoms be discreet enough? Or, would you recommend not even doing that? What about massage oil? I already got rid of all of the naked pics on my phone. Still have pics of girls, but all clothed. Can just say they are friends and / or old girlfriends hehe!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3062514]Again I do think that a guy who ca't answer a simple question on what brings him to Medellin without saying that they're going for the gusto in Gusto's probably should be turned around and pointed toward Sosua before they end of getting drugged and robbed.[/QUOTE]I do not get it. For the 200 times that I have been to Colombia I just answer tourism. And people are talking about what they have in their bags, but remember you get your bag and scan it [B]after[/B] you have been let into the country.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3062514]I get it but basically they're profiling guys. I live here and even if I didn't I don't have working girls in my phone as cherished keepsakes to brag to the guys back home about my 15 minutes with a third world trollop.

That being said they're just pretending to crackdown because it plays well to the locals worried about cost of living. Again I do think that a guy who ca't answer a simple question on what brings him to Medellin without saying that they're going for the gusto in Gusto's probably should be turned around and pointed toward Sosua before they end of getting drugged and robbed..[/QUOTE]To be honest, after COVID the majority that ran out and started applying for passports which began mass to traveling to Brazil, Colombia, DR and Thailand wasn't the best and brightest. I actually love that they are denying, deporting and banning as some of these people should not be travelling at all.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3062517]Would traveling with just a single box of condoms be discreet enough? Or, would you recommend not even doing that? What about massage oil? I already got rid of all of the naked pics on my phone. Still have pics of girls, but all clothed. Can just say they are friends and / or old girlfriends hehe![/QUOTE]If I were going to bring High end condoms from home I'the remove them from the box and put them in my pockets. If you're bringing in enough to stock a small sex shop in the box in your luggage that might trigger questioning. I can't see how a small bottle of massage oil would be a problem just say it's for personal use if asked.

Personally I don't understand why guys have thousands of pictures of randoms in their phones but Standard Operatiing Procedure is to Log out of all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode and turn off wifi. They have the right to look at what they can see They generally don't have the right to make you open apps.

You could also lock yourself out of your phone during take off in the states meaning put in the wrong code enough times that your phone is completely disabled for a couple hours.

Finally everyone should have a burner phone that they travel with that doesn't have banking apps or weird what's app and telegram groups in it Use your home phone to look at that stuff before your trip.

Same thing for this website no google or chrome use something like Firefox, Brave or Duck Duck Go and erase all searches from your phone's brower. You fire up ISG while in line trying to get some last minite information and you're done.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3062519]I do not get it. For the 200 times that I have been to Colombia I just answer tourism. And people are talking about what they have in their bags, but remember you get your bag and scan it [B]after[/B] you have been let into the country.[/QUOTE]One thing that people can use is Trip it or Wanderlog apps. They give good information so that you could book a tour of Communa 13 that you'll never take. Some guys never had to worry about questioning form the authorities and never ¨Fit the description¨ Before.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

For the guys who asked again If I were going anywhere on a trip I'the get a cheap GSM unlocked droid or Google Pixel.

Why a droid? Because it's easier to create profiles that hide apps that you'the need an additional passcode to get into. This is not stopping any Law enforcement agency that wants to get into your phone this stops some criminals and bored Customs officials You'the want either Trip It or Wanderlog on the front facing profile so when they ask you why you're in Colombia you can book some fake tours. Obviously you need what's app but in the other profile you should have Signal not Whats app. WA is totally compromised nothing that you say is Encrypted in a way that any Cop can't easily crack in fact Meta will gladly allow access to any government official who asks. If you must save pictures you should run them through EXIF to scrub location data off the pictures and use Photon Drive They have a limited free option again not going to save you from a real investigation but if it's in a profile maybe a strong two factor passcode generated by vault warden It will get you pass a bored and busy Customs official who will just wave you through and focus on the guy bringing in 87 18 in dildos.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

They're going to Colombia more and more and more! For the uh "birds". Hehehe!

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/birding-paradise-flourishes-in-colombian-region-that-was-once-a-war-zone-60-minutes-transcript/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3064234]They're going to Colombia more and more and more! For the uh "birds". Hehehe!

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/birding-paradise-flourishes-in-colombian-region-that-was-once-a-war-zone-60-minutes-transcript/[/URL][/QUOTE]Colombia detains and deports 10 "birders" in a single day as part of Fico's War on birding enthusiasts. Upon inspecting the group's luggage, authorities found large quantities of birding equipment. The measures are a part of broader government efforts to curb wildlife trafficking and exploitation.

[URL]https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/colombia-bars-10-foreigners-in-single-day-crackdown-on-suspected-sex-tourism/[/URL]

From 5/28 to 5/31 I was getting lots of random alerts on my phone from my bank. It was telling me they were refunding charges that were made in February and March. Odd, I didn't pay it any mind until I noticed they then recharged me for the same transaction at a few cents higher.

When given the option I always select Pesos but I don't get why they are refunding transactions and recharging at a higher rate 2 months later.

Anyone else seeing this?

To reduce the risk of not being admitted to the country observe the following:

Avoid flying into Medellin, avoid traveling on a US passport, avoid looking like a sex-tourist, and importantly when questioned don't tell officials you intend to "select women to have sexual relations" in your home country.

Basically, look and talk like a normal person and you'll be fine, even if you bring a big box of condoms (to enjoy with your girlfriend, obviously). Remember, sex is legal in Colombia, even for foreigners.

Authorities have to be seen to be keeping the country safe, so they make an example every now and then. But 99.99% of tourists have no issue at the border and even 99.9% of sex tourists get in without a problem.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;3068761]To reduce the risk of not being admitted to the country observe the following:

Avoid flying into Medellin, avoid traveling on a US passport, avoid looking like a sex-tourist, and importantly when questioned don't tell officials you intend to "select women to have sexual relations" in your home country.

Basically, look and talk like a normal person and you'll be fine, even if you bring a big box of condoms (to enjoy with your girlfriend, obviously). Remember, sex is legal in Colombia, even for foreigners.

Authorities have to be seen to be keeping the country safe, so they make an example every now and then. But 99.99% of tourists have no issue at the border and even 99.9% of sex tourists get in without a problem.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there are always a lot of bum looking dudes and clear sex tourists that get through every time I'm there. It must be something the people getting caught are doing wrong, I can't imagine just a normal acting dude getting denied.

To be safe if just say put any prior pics of escorts into a secure folder and clear your chats.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3068685]From 5/28 to 5/31 I was getting lots of random alerts on my phone from my bank. It was telling me they were refunding charges that were made in February and March. Odd, I didn't pay it any mind until I noticed they then recharged me for the same transaction at a few cents higher.

When given the option I always select Pesos but I don't get why they are refunding transactions and recharging at a higher rate 2 months later.

Anyone else seeing this?[/QUOTE]Something similar. Or maybe the same exact thing.

I have Citibank Visa (Costco branded).

In March and April, I was "accidentally" charged in US dollars on 4 occasions.

I'm am looking at the charges right now on my internet site.

All those charges got re-posted in US dollars on May 22. Then I got a refund for the original peso amount re-posted on May 29. I got back 93%. Must be a glitch. Not complaining at all.

Hence, didn't we get the meal for virtually free? At 7% of the original cost?

Look at the charges sequentially. The first charge should be the US dollar amount. The waiters pressed the wrong button. I think that happened to you.

Then the next charge will be the refund for the peso amount.

That means overall, we were charged only 7% of the original amount.

Correct?

Backstory:

Yes, always ask to be charged in the local currency, or they will rip you off. But now, you have to do it yourself. The waiters are ignorant.

Those MFers changed something in the credit card charging system.

Note: It depends on how the owners / management sets up the credit card machine. It has the capability to automatically charge in pesos if they don't want to overcharge their foreign guest.

Previously, many machines would ask if you want to be charged in pesos or US dollars. You press either 1 or 2. If you press 1 or the green button (next), you would get ripped off. It was fairly easy to understand.

Now many places has this new system in which they ask you (a long question) if you want to decline or accept the charges, with a mention of the currency conversion. They charge 7% extra. I thought many years ago, it was around 4%.

But that question can get confusing. Initially I thought you had to accept it to get charged. But nope. Read it carefully. You have to decline to be charged in pesos (It doesn't clearly state this). What's more confusing is that sometimes they will ask if you want the menu / question to be in English or Spanish. If it's in Spanish, we will get confused. If it's in English, the waiter will get confused.

I'm very happy right now. If I knew, I would have charged everything to US dollars. I hope my bank / Visa doesn't catch the glitch and recharge me.

I'm guessing / speculating that our banks / Visa attempted (incorrectly) to either give us back our 7%, or rejected their attempt to rip us off.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;3068770]

In March and April, I was "accidentally" charged in US dollars on 4 occasions.

I'm am looking at the charges right now on my internet site.

All those charges got re-posted in US dollars on May 22. Then I got a refund for the original peso amount re-posted on May 29. I got back 93%. Must be a glitch. Not complaining at all.

Hence, didn't we get the meal for virtually free? At 7% of the original cost?[/QUOTE]I must be missing something in your expanation. You say you were charged in March and April, then the charges got "re-posted" on May 22. That says they were posted twice. You then say you got a refund for the original peso amount on May 29. You got charged twicw in USD and one refund in COP. That doesn't look like a good deal to me. If you got a refund in USD that's not in your report, then you did get a good deal.

I almost always use the Davivienda ATM's, so this report is about them. I don't know if it is the same with other banks. In the past, the ATM rate corresponded to the Visa Exchange Rate, maybe a few cents different. The Visa Exchange Rate lags the mid-market rate by one full day. Today, the dollar took a big hit against the COP, dropping 100 COP to the USD. I went to the ATM, thinking I will beat the drop. Before and after doing the transaction, I checked the VISA Exchange Rate and it was 3678 COP / USD. When I checked my bank account, I received 3560 COP / USD. I declined the bank conversion rate. Looking at today's rate history, the rate was 3560 around 7 am (noon UTC) and 3562 at 10 am (1500 UTC). Other times were vastly different. It appears I'm no longer able to watch the Visa Exchange Rate and get a good rate.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3068779]You say you were charged in March and April, then the charges got "re-posted" on May 22. That says they were posted twice.[/QUOTE]I charged it in March and April.

The charges are still listed in the March and April sequential list, but in the detail information, it states that the charge got posted on May 22. I did not get charged twice.

When I checked my current charges back in March and April, it did not show the refunds. It seems that my bank redid everything on May 22 and May 29.

I'm confused, but happy.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3068783]I almost always use the Davivienda ATM's, so this report is about them. I don't know if it is the same with other banks. In the past, the ATM rate corresponded to the Visa Exchange Rate, maybe a few cents different. The Visa Exchange Rate lags the mid-market rate by one full day. Today, the dollar took a big hit against the COP, dropping 100 COP to the USD. I went to the ATM, thinking I will beat the drop. Before and after doing the transaction, I checked the VISA Exchange Rate and it was 3678 COP / USD. When I checked my bank account, I received 3560 COP / USD. I declined the bank conversion rate. Looking at today's rate history, the rate was 3560 around 7 am (noon UTC) and 3562 at 10 am (1500 UTC). Other times were vastly different. It appears I'm no longer able to watch the Visa Exchange Rate and get a good rate.[/QUOTE]Did you include the ATM fees in your equation? I believe that bank charges the withdrawal fees.

The equation should be: (pesos taken out + pesos withdrawal fee) / amount your bank charges = exchange rate.

FYI, the exchange rate is determined by your bank. The exchange rate you get in one particular country using the same debit card will be exactly the same using any ATM in that country.

The exchange rate using Schwab is slightly better than Citigold in Colombia and Philippines. Citigold is slightly better in Spain and / or Portugal. The difference maybe was around / less than 0. 25%. It adds up if you take out a lot of cash. In Thailand, the exchange rate was virtually the same. Schwab was better by a few Baht.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;3068791]Did you include the ATM fees in your equation? I believe that bank charges the withdrawal fees.

The exchange rate using Schwab is slightly better than Citigold in Colombia and Philippines. [/QUOTE]I included the 26 mil Davivienda charges in the calculation. I use the Schwab card.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;3068787]I charged it in March and April.

The charges are still listed in the March and April sequential list, but in the detail information, it states that the charge got posted on May 22. I did not get charged twice.

When I checked my current charges back in March and April, it did not show the refunds. It seems that my bank redid everything on May 22 and May 29.

I'm confused, but happy.[/QUOTE]So after a bit of digging, it seems like it had something to do with Dynamic Currency Conversion and transactions that were processed in Pesos which allowed my bank to do the conversion were refunded then recharged in Dollars months later which allowed the Colombian bank to process the conversion rate for their benefit which then came out at a higher rate to the card holder.

Pretty sneaky as there was no notice from the bank to card holders and this was all automatically done.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;3068761]To reduce the risk of not being admitted to the country observe the following:

Avoid flying into Medellin, avoid traveling on a US passport, avoid looking like a sex-tourist, and importantly when questioned don't tell officials you intend to "select women to have sexual relations" in your home country.

Basically, look and talk like a normal person and you'll be fine, even if you bring a big box of condoms (to enjoy with your girlfriend, obviously). Remember, sex is legal in Colombia, even for foreigners.

Authorities have to be seen to be keeping the country safe, so they make an example every now and then. But 99.99% of tourists have no issue at the border and even 99.9% of sex tourists get in without a problem.[/QUOTE]JAJAJAA That's way too much.

Normal people are not getting denied.

The ones that are getting denied are flagged before they get on the plane or they are in some database in Colombia such as having reports filed against them.

Colombia can deny someone based on what's on their criminal record, so if guys were convicted of playing with minors, they are on that Angel Watch list and countries can decide if they want them Allot of these people who committed violations while in Colombia and now getting denied entry years later is lucky they were denied entry because Colombia could have allowed them in then arrest them and lock them up in Colombia.

Every time I enter they only ask where I'm staying and a phone number, in all my years they have never asked me any other question that would lead me to say anything about women.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3068926]So after a bit of digging, it seems like it had something to do with Dynamic Currency Conversion and transactions that were processed in Pesos which allowed my bank to do the conversion were refunded then recharged in Dollars months later which allowed the Colombian bank to process the conversion rate for their benefit which then came out at a higher rate to the card holder.

Pretty sneaky as there was no notice from the bank to card holders and this was all automatically done.[/QUOTE]Ya, you're right. I got confused.

What happened is that a few months ago, I was charged in pesos on my credit card bill, even though those waiters selected US dollar. I paid the credit card bill.

Then on this current statement, the banks did the charge and charge back to get their 7%.

This only happened for the charges in which the waiters selected US dollar conversion. Watch out and be careful, if you don't want to pay the extra 7%.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3068926]So after a bit of digging, it seems like it had something to do with Dynamic Currency Conversion and transactions that were processed in Pesos which allowed my bank to do the conversion were refunded then recharged in Dollars months later which allowed the Colombian bank to process the conversion rate for their benefit which then came out at a higher rate to the card holder.

Pretty sneaky as there was no notice from the bank to card holders and this was all automatically done.[/QUOTE]Same thing just happened to me.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3068926]So after a bit of digging, it seems like it had something to do with Dynamic Currency Conversion and transactions that were processed in Pesos which allowed my bank to do the conversion were refunded then recharged in Dollars months later which allowed the Colombian bank to process the conversion rate for their benefit which then came out at a higher rate to the card holder.

Pretty sneaky as there was no notice from the bank to card holders and this was all automatically done.[/QUOTE]I had the same thing happen to me with over 20 charges, I always tell cashiers to bill in pesos and watch to make sure that it is done that way. I called my CC company and they pointed their finger at the processing company. I told them that that was their problem and not mine, I pay YOU and the charges are posted by YOU on YOUR CC card. I disputed every one of the charges and demanded a written explanation to each charge individually. Some of these charges had already been paid for as I pay my CC bills weekly. I will take this up the ladder as far as I can just for the sport of it because it is not a lot of money. In the meantime it is cash only for me which sucks but not the end of the world.

Yeah, I noticed this change in many of the datafonos since I came back to Colombia in April, wasn't seeing this as recently as February so it seems to be very new. Some still use the older way of giving the option between paying in US dollars or COP pesos, sometimes displaying the country flags. But many of them are using this deceptively designed Decline or Accept screen now. Whoever designed this change in the software knew exactly what the fuck they were doing, to trick people into choosing the more expensive option so that the processor can get paid more. It's the same as what the ATMs do with the accept or decline conversion screens, but even more subtle if you don't know what to expect.

They got me the first few times, but now I am so paranoid about checking the screens and walking the cashiers / waiters through the process to make sure they decline the conversion. I have been trying to teach them and spread the word so that they don't unintentionally screw over other customers, but seems like almost nobody other than some tourists / expats knows about this.

Hopefully we can look forward to some sort of class action lawsuit about this in the future.

They were already doing political theatre on cracking down on sex tourism, but this shit may be the straw that break the camel's back to make them come down hard.

[URL]https://x.com/i/status/2066548191672012996[/URL]

Wondering why there are no gang wars here as in Santa Fe. Violence will reset everything.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3070560]They were already doing political theatre on cracking down on sex tourism, but this shit may be the straw that break the camel's back to make them come down hard.

[URL]https://x.com/i/status/2066548191672012996[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jicks;3070609]Wondering why there are no gang wars here as in Santa Fe. Violence will reset everything.[/QUOTE]What gang war? I have been to Santa Fe over 100 times, many times as late as 4 am, and never seen any gang war. Maybe I am so bad ass that they settle that shit down when they hear that I am coming.

Many clubs were closed for few weeks after the attack. Quality and number of girls in the clubs and overall santa fe are still pathetic.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3070704]What gang war? I have been to Santa Fe over 100 times, many times as late as 4 am, and never seen any gang war. Maybe I am so bad ass that they settle that shit down when they hear that I am coming.[/QUOTE].

Guys, I know its like beating a dead horse on this shit. Fill it out vs don't fill it out, etc.

On my last 3 trips I had filled it out and was never asked while bag dropping, boarding at JFK, or entering Colombia, well on my current trip I decided not to fill it out because the new website design sucks ass. Everyone's at the terminal, the gate agent calls group 1 and 2 to board and as they start lining up the woman decides to get on the loudspeaker and broadcast "Anyone boarding must have ChekMiG filled out, you will not board is you do not have it". Then keeps telling people "this is the immigration form, you have to fill it out to get into the country" Now keep in mind this was after I already did bag drop and was not asked for it, and I received no emails about filling it out like they used to send previously. Full flight, everyone scrambling to fill it out on their phone, Colombians are there showing the gate agent their Colombian and trying to explain to her that they don't need to do CheckMIG because they are Colombian but the gate agent don't speak Spanish and they don't speak English. Almost nobody can fill out the form on their phone because too much people is trying to access the site at one so the page won't load and it keeps trying to download something. Absolute chaos nonsense. She finally changed her mind and say just show that you started the form and finish it on the plane.

I started it, never made it past page 1 and just said fuck it. Arrived in CTG, and all they asked was purpose of visit and where I will be staying, then she stamps me through, nothing about CheckMIG.

I wish this miscommunication can be cleared up because clearly there is something missing between Jetblue, JFK, and Colombia.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3073753]Guys, I know its like beating a dead horse on this shit. Fill it out vs don't fill it out, etc...[/QUOTE]This is exactly why I still take the 10 minutes to fill out the CheckMIG form. If I encounter some random person on my trip that hasn't gotten the memo, I just flash the form and go on my way.

Ladies and gentlemen, hear this plain and clear. And yes ladies included also as Colombia has become a major gay and lesbian destination.

Those of you who like the Colombian experience, here are the rules to keep it fun for you:

Come to Colombia on a two way ticket for however long you have free, enjoy your time to the max and then.

Use your return ticket. Don't try to make more of your whoring than it is, they are not your girlfriends or boyfriends, it is a business for them.

And you should keep it a business for you.

Trust me on this and if you need any clarification, ask some other seniors here. At least the ones who are not in a graveyard.

So ends your expert advice for the day.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;3074690]Ladies and gentlemen...
Don't try to make more of your whoring than it is, they are not your girlfriends or boyfriends, it is a business for them.
And you should keep it a business for you.
Trust me on this and if you need any clarification, ask some other seniors here. At least the ones who are not in a graveyard.
So ends your expert advice for the day.[/QUOTE]I'm just going to add that your mileage may vary. I have been coming here since 2021, and I have made some excellent long-term friends. These are friends who are willing to come and hang out without charging anything or expecting anything. I continue to communicate with them, and they continue to keep me informed on how things are going with other friends and in the area. Some of them, when I'm in town, stop by to visit and have a drink and talk before they head off to "work. " These are human beings, and if you treat them as such, they usually tend to treat you back the same. It is one of the parts of the Colombia culture that I love. Some of the friendliest and nicest people you'll meet anywhere.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;3074690]Ladies and gentlemen, hear this plain and clear. And yes ladies included also as Colombia has become a major gay and lesbian destination.

Those of you who like the Colombian experience, here are the rules to keep it fun for you:

Come to Colombia on a two way ticket for however long you have free, enjoy your time to the max and then.

Use your return ticket. Don't try to make more of your whoring than it is, they are not your girlfriends or boyfriends, it is a business for them.

And you should keep it a business for you.

Trust me on this and if you need any clarification, ask some other seniors here. At least the ones who are not in a graveyard.

So ends your expert advice for the day.[/QUOTE]That holds very true with one caveat: you have only been around hookers. For folks that have been around people they do not have to pay, then this is horrible advice.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;3074690]Ladies and gentlemen, hear this plain and clear. And yes ladies included also as Colombia has become a major gay and lesbian destination.

Those of you who like the Colombian experience, here are the rules to keep it fun for you:

Come to Colombia on a two way ticket for however long you have free, enjoy your time to the max and then.

Use your return ticket. Don't try to make more of your whoring than it is, they are not your girlfriends or boyfriends, it is a business for them.

And you should keep it a business for you.

Trust me on this and if you need any clarification, ask some other seniors here. At least the ones who are not in a graveyard.

So ends your expert advice for the day.[/QUOTE]It would be best not to treat everyone from a country as "disposable" based on interactions with a specific subset of people from that country.

Treat people as humans and in turn they should treat you the same, will there be some to take advantage? Sure, but YMMV.

[URL]https://www.riotimesonline.com/medellin-us-task-force-feria-de-las-flores-2026/[/URL]

Colombia's Flower Festival Gets FBI Task Force Security.

Binational Security Operation.

Key Facts.

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The Task Force. Medellin and US agencies including the FBI launched Task Force Medellin 2026, operating from 28 July to 10 August.

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The Objective. The binational force targets transnational crime and the protection of children during Colombiamoda and the Feria de las Flores.

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The Tools. Officers will use US systems like Angel Watch and NCMEC to screen foreign nationals in real time at Medellin's airports.

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The Precedent. Arrests linked to sexual abuse and exploitation rose over 1,000% between the 2021-2023 and 2024-2026 periods under the task force model.

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The Local Complement. Over 2,700 national police officers will also deploy across the city for ground-level security during the festivities.

Medellin has integrated US federal agencies into its Feria de las Flores security plan, creating a binational task force to block transnational offenders during Colombia's peak tourism week.

[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3077069]Colombia's Flower Festival Gets FBI Task Force Security.[/QUOTE]That's a good thing. If they lock up the child molesters they find, there will be less of them traveling for that purpose. Maybe ones who were thinking of traveling to see minors will think twice before making those trip plans.

Perhaps of interest. A headline from today's NY Times: A USA Citizen Deleted His Phone's Data. Now he Faces a Felony Charge.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/28/us/duress-password-phone-wipe-charge.html[/URL]

Some excerpts from the linked Times article for those who can't open it:

Federal prosecutors charged a man returning to the United States with obstruction because he gave them a passcode that erased his smartphone during a customs search.

Federal prosecutors in Atlanta are bringing an obstruction charge against a USA Citizen who gave customs officers what is known as a duress passcode, which activated software that erased the contents of his phone.

The federal statute underlying the charge makes it a felony to destroy evidence or transfer assets to keep the government from seizing them, or to tip someone off about an upcoming search or wiretap. It carries a penalty of up to five years in federal prison, a fine, or both.

Agree but theyre turning back single men with condoms.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3077078]That's a good thing. If they lock up the child molesters they find, there will be less of them traveling for that purpose. Maybe ones who were thinking of traveling to see minors will think twice before making those trip plans.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3077089]Agree but theyre turning back single men with condoms.[/QUOTE]I still don't get their policy. Prostitution as an adult is legal, it's a business model and in LATAM even more cultural accepted and tolerated than in other parts of the world, and they deny people with a bunch of condoms the entry. I mean only in mileroticos Medellin are 7000 ads listed.

If you mean it, make it illegal (but they know it wouldn't work).

Where I live it's legal as well, one could arrive with an extra bag of dildos and another with condoms, customs concern would be more tax fraud when reselling than having dates with escorts and if proven it's for personal purpose, welcome and enjoy. Law is law.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3077078]That's a good thing. If they lock up the child molesters they find, there will be less of them traveling for that purpose. Maybe ones who were thinking of traveling to see minors will think twice before making those trip plans.[/QUOTE]Where haven't they locked them up? That still does not stop them from doing what they do.

That prosecution is going to fail because of one simple fact, the defendant didn't delete the data, the federal agent did.

Now the petty fascists are going to have to whine to a judge that they were outsmarted. Fucking nazis.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3077087]Perhaps of interest. A headline from today's NY Times: A USA Citizen Deleted His Phone's Data. Now he Faces a Felony Charge.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/28/us/duress-password-phone-wipe-charge.html[/URL]

Some excerpts from the linked Times article for those who can't open it:

Federal prosecutors charged a man returning to the United States with obstruction because he gave them a passcode that erased his smartphone during a customs search.

Federal prosecutors in Atlanta are bringing an obstruction charge against a USA Citizen who gave customs officers what is known as a duress passcode, which activated software that erased the contents of his phone.

The federal statute underlying the charge makes it a felony to destroy evidence or transfer assets to keep the government from seizing them, or to tip someone off about an upcoming search or wiretap. It carries a penalty of up to five years in federal prison, a fine, or both.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PSAddict;3077116]I still don't get their policy. Prostitution as an adult is legal, it's a business model and in LATAM even more cultural accepted and tolerated than in other parts of the world, and they deny people with a bunch of condoms the entry. I mean only in mileroticos Medellin are 7000 ads listed.

If you mean it, make it illegal (but they know it wouldn't work).

Where I live it's legal as well, one could arrive with an extra bag of dildos and another with condoms, customs concern would be more tax fraud when reselling than having dates with escorts and if proven it's for personal purpose, welcome and enjoy. Law is law.[/QUOTE]It's a political stunt. The Mayor of Medellin tried to run for president off the backs of sex tourists. The real thing people are mad about is the high cost of living and the gentrification. The Homes are owned primarily by Colombians so if they could get mongers scared then the Airbnb super hosts would have to lower prices and rent to locals.

The other reason is bad publicity. They can't stop mongers from getting scoped so better to get rid of the lowest hanging fruit mongers as they are the ones most likely to get scoped.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=PSAddict;3077116]I still don't get their policy. Prostitution as an adult is legal, it's a business model and in LATAM even more cultural accepted and tolerated than in other parts of the world, and they deny people with a bunch of condoms the entry.[/QUOTE]Again, condoms is not the reason for a person's denied entry. They are denied entry [B]before[/B] the bags are searched. You do not get your checked bag until after you are let into the country. All bags are put through a scanner after you are granted entry. In the event that you are denied entry, your bag may be searched. They do not know what is in your bag until it is put through the machine [B]after[/B] being granted or denied.

[QUOTE=PSAddict;3077116]I still don't get their policy. Prostitution as an adult is legal, it's a business model and in LATAM even more cultural accepted and tolerated than in other parts of the world, and they deny people with a bunch of condoms the entry. I mean only in mileroticos Medellin are 7000 ads listed.

If you mean it, make it illegal (but they know it wouldn't work).

Where I live it's legal as well, one could arrive with an extra bag of dildos and another with condoms, customs concern would be more tax fraud when reselling than having dates with escorts and if proven it's for personal purpose, welcome and enjoy. Law is law.[/QUOTE]It's completely for show. They don't like being known as a destination for foreign men "sex tourists," whether it's legal or not. The Colombians for the most aren't as obnoxiously visible when partaking in the world's oldest profession. But the foreigners are loud and very visible. Also they push up rents for the natives, which doesn't go over well with many Colombians.

I dare you to show up with a suitcase full of vibrators and lube and explain to the agents that you're not doing anything illegal.

[QUOTE=Combo;3077274]The Colombians for the most aren't as obnoxiously visible when partaking in the world's oldest profession. But the foreigners are loud and very visible. [/QUOTE]Ultimately that is the main reason!

[QUOTE=Combo;3077274]They don't like being known as a destination for foreign men "sex tourists," whether it's legal or not. The Colombians for the most aren't as obnoxiously visible when partaking in the world's oldest profession. But the foreigners are loud and very visible.[/QUOTE]I have listened to Colombians talking about it on YT and social media, and it seems that in addition to the single male tourists, they also have a problem with the chicas as well. They don't like the image of having swarms of obvious prepagos strolling and hanging around in upscale areas (Parque Lleras in Medellin, and Centro Historico in Cartagena) that are supposed to be night-life / tourism districts, turning them into redlight districts. Even though prostitution is legal and more culturally acceptable in Colombia, there are many there who would rather that it stay out of sight and out of mind (and others who wish that it didn't exist at all).

[URL]https://colombiaone.com/2026/07/30/dollar-colombia-fall-threatens-3000-peso-floor/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3077381]I have listened to Colombians talking about it on YT and social media, and it seems that in addition to the single male tourists, they also have a problem with the chicas as well. They don't like the image of having swarms of obvious prepagos strolling and hanging around in upscale areas (Parque Lleras in Medellin, and Centro Historico in Cartagena) that are supposed to be night-life / tourism districts, turning them into redlight districts. Even though prostitution is legal and more culturally acceptable in Colombia, there are many there who would rather that it stay out of sight and out of mind (and others who wish that it didn't exist at all).[/QUOTE]I don't blame them. It's one thing to make something legal that's been happening for thousands of years. It's a different thing if it's right in your face where you live or where you like to go out to eat.