Moscow

Hey Steve9696,

I am a long time lurker and loved your reports about the 5 clubs. I was curious also, so I just went on the website and asked the "Club Administrator". I'm not sure how reliable that is or if it's even a person, but apparently they have been open since June from 9 pm to 6 am everyday. Again I don't know how reliable this is but it's coming from the horses mouth (if I was talking to a real person thru their website).

[QUOTE=AndrewNA;2553657]Thanks a lot! But I meant some escort agency, not a clubs. Because I don't drink alcohol so clubs is boring when you sober.[/QUOTE]Not sure how it could be boring! The clubs are strip clubs! And the girls come off stage and grind on you half naked for $3. Even sober guys like high contact with naked girls. You pick the one you like and go fuck on-site in luxe rooms. What's not to like?

Here was how I learned the Moscow scene several years ago. Many thanks to Axel who generously introduced me to the club scene. Hopefully I can introduce you!

Welcome to Russia. Escalation -- Zazhigalka, Golden Girls, and Korston.

My first time in Moscow, I didn't even know P4 P existed. My second time, I saw the light, but only via a new friend made from my glass-half-full optimism. I started out at a club that is just look and feel called Zazhigalka. As strip clubs go, it was very, very good and I had a blast. I arrived at 9, right when it opened, and I was the ONLY guy in the club. All eyes were on me! Probably 25 girls. Really sort of a 6-7 looks-rating kind of crowd -- no stunners, but some very pretty girls. Two girls hit me up (a 6 and an 8) and we had some great duo dances -- fully nude and no real restrictions on touching tits and ass or drinking while fully nude, unlike the US fully-nudes, which I find distinctly lame.

So I thought that was really good, but I clearly had no idea. The next night I went to a club called Golden Girls. It opens at 10 and I was there about 9:45. So being the outgoing guy I am, I start up a conversation with two guys at the door waiting to get in. (I can't emphasize enough how being friendly and unafraid is of great value when it comes to finding great venues for women and frankly life in general).

Well, one of the guys is a district sales manager for a large European company and the other is his local director of sales. We hit it off right away and he asks me to join them. He breezes us into the club with his VIP card and we immediately sit down and he orders hookah and drinks all around. I tried to pay a couple times, but he pretty much covered everything. Has girls coming and smoking hookah with us -- just one big party. He tells me his sales manager, who works for him, is forbidden to drink and will be our chauffeur! LOL. You see, he says, this club is the warm up club -- super pretty girls, but no sex. Then we will drive across town and go to the club with sex. Ok, I'm in!

We drink and hookah and ogle and take a girl to the back room from time to time and get quite worked up. They are SUPER pretty 8's and 9's, though a bit too Nordic for my taste mostly. Nonetheless I find one raven-haired beauty with the most perfect see cup tits that I sample extensively. After a couple hours of good clean fun, we pile into the Range Rover with our designated driver and head across town to Korston. Korston is small and considerably more lowbrow, but it's the traditional brothel-strip-club format I've since come to know and love.

The format is the following. Yes, it's a strip club, like you have in the US with a girl pole-dancing. What is different is, when she comes off stage she will go in turn to each guy and try to get a quick lap dance. The dance is only like 1-2 minutes right there on your chair, BUT you get full tit and ass hands-on action and you only tip $3! (some guys even do $1. 50 LOL). So you get to sample a TON of women. Generally, I try them all as they seem quite disappointed when you don't and at $3, why not? Of course the point of the dance is not the dance. She wants to seduce you and take you to the room and fuck you!

So we settle in at Korston and get some dances. But at some point, I can't find what I want and separate from the guys to go looking upstairs. Upstairs is a completely different thing with girls lounging about and relaxing. I happen upon an amazing little spinner with an apple bottom and the most dreamy brown eyes despite here platinum hair. I particularly recall her butt, because even with her limited English she says "My butt is like an I-phone -- it's an Apple".

Long story short, we have a really nice time, but when I go to find the guys they are long gone. I inquire about a bit and learn they had to leave, so I am on my own. It's 2 AM and I have a flight in 3 hours! No taxis handy, so I take a ride to my hotel with a random Russian dude the club grabbed for me (unwise in retrospect!) and shower and get straight on the plane! Whew, that was a bit nerve racking. But fortunately I had a lovely young lady in several positions and I now know the Russian strip club sex deal -- and so do you! It will serve me well on my next trip!

King of the World -- Aurora, Angels, Penthouse and More.

So my next time in Moscow, I know the drill. I read up a bit and find that other clubs like Aurora, Angels, the Loft, and Penthouse offer full sex like Korston, but are perhaps a notch higher up on the looks ladder. No need for a Golden Girls warmup because the girls are pretty AND fuck. I also try out Night Flight and Rasputin, two clubs with a reputation for being all that a decade ago, but perhaps past their prime.

Sure enough Night Flight is NOT what you see on the web. On the web it's this vibrant fun club. In person, it is small and dark, with a few ladies perhaps a bit past their prime, but attractive nonetheless. Probably more a late 20's and 30's crowd, than the young, fresh girls at a Golden Girls say. The unique thing about Night Flight is it is take out (thus the name). You pick your girl, pay a small barfine and off you go.

So in my traditional "go with the flow" mode, this is more of an adventure than planned. I sit down with a girl who is my type, but perhaps 5 years and 10 pounds beyond my usual taste. But I was in a hurry that night so we chat a bit, agree price and off we go. But the interesting part is she says "I drove to work, so we can just take my car" and of course I say "sure".

Well, this is where you all are going "oooh bad idea I can see where this is headed". Actually, no. It's just fine. She has a small compact hatchback which we walk to and we drive to my hotel uneventfully. We breeze past the front desk and have two solid rounds. She's quite the wizard on the BJ, since she insists on CBJ and yet we get it done both times. So I won't write off Night Flight for everyone -- it's just not as awesome as depicted on the web, but you can have a nice night with a pretty-enough girl who's maybe a 6-7.

Rasputin, on the other hand, gets one star! I can't remember all the details except it takes a long time to find a girl I would bother with and when we go private, she won't even let me touch her tits. I mean more lame than the US -- which is mega lame! Do not go to Rasputin.

Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse on the other hand are worth your time. I had a lovely young blond rocker from Angels after my Rasputin fiasco. Couldn't have been more than 19. Same drill as described for Korston above, but much prettier girls. After several girls gave me the (almost) free samples, I saw this girl coming down the bar line, hitting each guy and I knew when she got to me, I was going to take her. We quickly agreed price, paid the bar fine and hit the room. Super nice time with joint shower and sex with all the usual trimmings.

The next night I tried Aurora and didn't make a match, but I used their car service to go to Penthouse -- Angels, Aurora, Penthouse, and Loft are all owned by the same guy and they will take you from one to the other for free! The hostess at Penthouse was particularly helpful when she said "Of course the dancers are available. But also, all the waitresses and barmaids are available to take, as are the hostesses. Even me!" (wink) This is an amazing perk! I love "king of the world" experiences and being able to take ANY girl you see in the club is an amazing feeling. I don't know anywhere else worldwide with this particular offering.

I'm feeling a bit king-of-the-worldy, so I spring for a table for $30, which is very nice -- right up near the stage and it's a booth where girls can sit with you or ride you for a few minutes. After a few minutes, two barmaids make the approach and ask if they can sit with me. This is a paid service, which I recall was $20 for 10 minutes. So sure, sit with me babies! And they do. One is a taller Nordic-style girl but with really lovely eyes and real see cups. And the other is a super petite tawny-skinned spinner of either Indian or Thai descent, or perhaps both.

I really enjoyed their company, but let the time expire and continued to sample the strippers as they came off stage. After several rounds of this, I thought -- you know what -- I kinda like those two barmaid girls. So I have them back over for another 10 minutes to work up the deal. I remember, it was 28,000 rubles, not including the room, for both of them for an hour. OK, it's on!

The deal at these clubs (as distinct from Korston where we had sex in a room on a couch) is the rooms are separate from the club, for legal reasons. So the girls go off and get changed into street clothes and meet me back in the hotel lobby, which is all of 50 feet away from the club on its lower level. They look HOT AS FUCK!

We check into the hotel and it's about $20 more than planned, but that is because all they have left is a suite. And how sweet it is! Not only does it have a king size bed, it has a 8 x6 shower, and a full conference room with big screen TV and karaoke machine! The other nice perk, which I did not know about till this moment, is that the bar and restaurant above will deliver drinks and sushi any time you call! So we order a big platter of sushi and jack and cokes for all three of us and the party is ON!

I can't really describe how fun this was. The sex comes later and frankly was nothing to write home about -- good stuff, but "the usual". But the lead-up was absolutely spectacular. We start singing karaoke and drinking and eating like fiends. It is soooo much fun. Pretty soon they are bare chested and I am in my boxers and we are still singing but with plenty of hands on. Every 20 minutes or so, we call upstairs and the waitress brings us more sushi and jack and cokes. She seems completely unfazed by our semi-nakedness. OMG it is amongst the most fun I have ever had.

Eventually we do have sex, and I need to extend to two hours (pros!) but it is so worth it. Total bill for the night ends up around $1200 as I recall, but worth every penny. We must have drank a fuck of a lot of Jack, because we wrap at 4 AM and I go home and sleep a couple hours, but get a cab at 6:30 AM for my flight. In the cab, I am looking on my phone at my Visa bill because I unwisely charged some stuff on it that the wife might see. And I can't get my eyes to focus on the page. I literally cannot make my eyeballs work in coordination and read! Fuck I was still drunk as shit. Anyhow, one of the top experiences of my storied career, even today.

Steve,

BBBJ is very important for me, do these girls provide it if you pay extra?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2553858]King of the World -- Aurora, Angels, Penthouse and More.

So my next time in Moscow, I know the drill. I read up a bit and find that other clubs like Aurora, Angels, the Loft, and Penthouse offer full sex like Korston, but are perhaps a notch higher up on the looks ladder. No need for a Golden Girls warmup because the girls are pretty AND fuck. I also try out Night Flight and Rasputin, two clubs with a reputation for being all that a decade ago, but perhaps past their prime.

Sure enough Night Flight is NOT what you see on the web. On the web it's this vibrant fun club. In person, it is small and dark, with a few ladies perhaps a bit past their prime, but attractive nonetheless. Probably more a late 20's and 30's crowd, than the young, fresh girls at a Golden Girls say. The unique thing about Night Flight is it is take out (thus the name). You pick your girl, pay a small barfine and off you go.

So in my traditional "go with the flow" mode, this is more of an adventure than planned. I sit down with a girl who is my type, but perhaps 5 years and 10 pounds beyond my usual taste. But I was in a hurry that night so we chat a bit, agree price and off we go. But the interesting part is she says "I drove to work, so we can just take my car" and of course I say "sure".

Well, this is where you all are going "oooh bad idea I can see where this is headed". Actually, no. It's just fine. She has a small compact hatchback which we walk to and we drive to my hotel uneventfully. We breeze past the front desk and have two solid rounds. She's quite the wizard on the BJ, since she insists on CBJ and yet we get it done both times. So I won't write off Night Flight for everyone -- it's just not as awesome as depicted on the web, but you can have a nice night with a pretty-enough girl who's maybe a 6-7.[/QUOTE]How much were the girls and bar fines at Night Flights and Penthouse? (In USD).

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2553884]Steve,

BBBJ is very important for me, do these girls provide it if you pay extra?[/QUOTE]To answer both recent questions:

BBBJ has to be negotiated up front. My last time there (2019) I got covered BJ at Aurora and Penthouse and then went. Duh I need to cover that up front. At Angels, I had keyed into Google translate ahead of time "Lick your pussy and blowjob without condom" and she said Yes number 1 and No number 2. I said OK then I can't go to the room with you. She was taken aback. Thought a beat and said OK number 2. And she was a full on 9. 5. Often it's like this worldwide — if you are ready to walk they are persuaded.

Last time (not covered in the reports below) the Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse trifecta was completed! They were all price fixed at 18000 R for an hour including bar fine. That's $240 USD.

P.S. If you go to their website you can get a password for free entry. Saves about $30.

Again not sure how it is in 2021 so YMMV.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2553856]Here was how I learned the Moscow scene several years ago. Many thanks to Axel who generously introduced me to the club scene. Hopefully I can introduce you!

Welcome to Russia. Escalation -- Zazhigalka, Golden Girls, and Korston.

My first time in Moscow, I didn't even know P4 P existed. My second time, I saw the light, but only via a new friend made from my glass-half-full optimism. I started out at a club that is just look and feel called Zazhigalka. As strip clubs go, it was very, very good and I had a blast. I arrived at 9, right when it opened, and I was the ONLY guy in the club. All eyes were on me! Probably 25 girls. Really sort of a 6-7 looks-rating kind of crowd -- no stunners, but some very pretty girls. Two girls hit me up (a 6 and an 8) and we had some great duo dances -- fully nude and no real restrictions on touching tits and ass or drinking while fully nude, unlike the US fully-nudes, which I find distinctly lame.

So I thought that was really good, but I clearly had no idea. The next night I went to a club called Golden Girls. It opens at 10 and I was there about 9:45. So being the outgoing guy I am, I start up a conversation with two guys at the door waiting to get in. (I can't emphasize enough how being friendly and unafraid is of great value when it comes to finding great venues for women and frankly life in general)..[/QUOTE]Awesome story. I have many of the same stories in Kiev / Moscow. I am debating about going back to Moscow in November and December when work slows down. I miss Moscow, but the Night Life had been declining even Pre Covid. So I might try Belarus or Sau P. After a almost 2 years of Mexico I do need a change, but no complaints for me. (I love the girls I am meeting in Mexico), I have been to Rio and was extremely disappointed and would not go back. I love Mexico, but the Night Life is so much more fun in Russia / Europe as you know. Also MTY is very slow during the Holiday season, so weighing my options.

Steve,

Thanks. The forum is blessed with gems like you. Your contributions are not praised as much as they should be.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2553849]Not sure how it could be boring! The clubs are strip clubs! And the girls come off stage and grind on you half naked for $3. Even sober guys like high contact with naked girls. You pick the one you like and go fuck on-site in luxe rooms. What's not to like?[/QUOTE]Ohhh.

I thought you were talking about dancing clubs, etc.

Anyway, thanks man.

Hi there,

Share my first experience with an escort in Russia.

Checked the page of mentioned agency here - [URL]https://www.monicamoscow.com/.[/URL] There were a lot of doubts but I really loved some pictures of some girls. So it was agreed to meet via WhatsApp. I contacted the manager to ask for real pics of the girls. From what I know, there are a lot of fake photos on the website, same as it was on rusprostitute (I can't begin to fathom that awful day such a horrible and dirty monster came to me.).

I asked which of the girls is free and they sent me more than 20 pics of several varieties in WhatsApp chat. So I think that a pics on the site is trap? So I choose one girl from "gallery" – a slender brown-haired model. The manager said her name is Irina 22 yo. Actually what about management, I was promised that Irina would arrive in 30-40 minutes but I had to wait for almost an hour, although I stayed at the central Kempinsky Balchug hotel. Anyway, I was really amazed and delighted when she came in – it was exactly the girl from the photos! I was really glad. Sure, her look was a bit different than on the photo, but her facial features, smile and figure indicated that it was Irina herself. She was really stylish and cared-for-look, so I pretty liked it when she came. What about deficiencies, the website states that all girls speak English is 4 stars, which isn't true. She speaks English much worse, though it's common for Russia, I guess.

The service in Russia doesn't imply the included oral without and French kisses, for example. It means an hour of basic service includes classic sex, oral sex in a condom, and erotic massage. As a whole, I'm satisfied that the girl stayed with me for the whole hour, was friendly and provided a very some quality service, like in NY for example. Basically, the service rating is a strong 5.

P.S. A girl from front desk called me when Irena left. She called just to ask if I was okay. Wow. So I see that hotel Balchug are friendly attitude and care about guests.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2553858]King of the World -- Aurora, Angels, Penthouse and More.

So my next time in Moscow, I know the drill. I read up a bit and find that other clubs like Aurora, Angels, the Loft, and Penthouse offer full sex like Korston, but are perhaps a notch higher up on the looks ladder. No need for a Golden Girls warmup because the girls are pretty AND fuck. I also try out Night Flight and Rasputin, two clubs with a reputation for being all that a decade ago, but perhaps past their prime.

Sure enough Night Flight is NOT what you see on the web. On the web it's this vibrant fun club. In person, it is small and dark, with a few ladies perhaps a bit past their prime, but attractive nonetheless. Probably more a late 20's and 30's crowd, than the young, fresh girls at a Golden Girls say. The unique thing about Night Flight is it is take out (thus the name). You pick your girl, pay a small barfine and off you go.

So in my traditional "go with the flow" mode, this is more of an adventure than planned. I sit down with a girl who is my type, but perhaps 5 years and 10 pounds beyond my usual taste. But I was in a hurry that night so we chat a bit, agree price and off we go. But the interesting part is she says "I drove to work, so we can just take my car" and of course I say "sure".

Well, this is where you all are going "oooh bad idea I can see where this is headed". Actually, no. It's just fine. She has a small compact hatchback which we walk to and we drive to my hotel uneventfully. We breeze past the front desk and have two solid rounds. She's quite the wizard on the BJ, since she insists on CBJ and yet we get it done both times. So I won't write off Night Flight for everyone -- it's just not as awesome as depicted on the web, but you can have a nice night with a pretty-enough girl who's maybe a 6-7.

Rasputin, on the other hand, gets one star! I can't remember all the details except it takes a long time to find a girl I would bother with and when we go private, she won't even let me touch her tits. I mean more lame than the US -- which is mega lame! Do not go to Rasputin.

Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse on the other hand are worth your time. I had a lovely young blond rocker from Angels after my Rasputin fiasco. Couldn't have been more than 19. Same drill as described for Korston above, but much prettier girls. After several girls gave me the (almost) free samples, I saw this girl coming down the bar line, hitting each guy and I knew when she got to me, I was going to take her. We quickly agreed price, paid the bar fine and hit the room. Super nice time with joint shower and sex with all the usual trimmings.

The next night I tried Aurora and didn't make a match, but I used their car service to go to Penthouse -- Angels, Aurora, Penthouse, and Loft are all owned by the same guy and they will take you from one to the other for free! The hostess at Penthouse was particularly helpful when she said "Of course the dancers are available. But also, all the waitresses and barmaids are available to take, as are the hostesses. Even me!" (wink) This is an amazing perk! I love "king of the world" experiences and being able to take ANY girl you see in the club is an amazing feeling. I don't know anywhere else worldwide with this particular offering.

I'm feeling a bit king-of-the-worldy, so I spring for a table for $30, which is very nice -- right up near the stage and it's a booth where girls can sit with you or ride you for a few minutes. After a few minutes, two barmaids make the approach and ask if they can sit with me. This is a paid service, which I recall was $20 for 10 minutes. So sure, sit with me babies! And they do. One is a taller Nordic-style girl but with really lovely eyes and real see cups. And the other is a super petite tawny-skinned spinner of either Indian or Thai descent, or perhaps both.

I really enjoyed their company, but let the time expire and continued to sample the strippers as they came off stage. After several rounds of this, I thought -- you know what -- I kinda like those two barmaid girls. So I have them back over for another 10 minutes to work up the deal. I remember, it was 28,000 rubles, not including the room, for both of them for an hour. OK, it's on!

The deal at these clubs (as distinct from Korston where we had sex in a room on a couch) is the rooms are separate from the club, for legal reasons. So the girls go off and get changed into street clothes and meet me back in the hotel lobby, which is all of 50 feet away from the club on its lower level. They look HOT AS FUCK!

We check into the hotel and it's about $20 more than planned, but that is because all they have left is a suite. And how sweet it is! Not only does it have a king size bed, it has a 8 x6 shower, and a full conference room with big screen TV and karaoke machine! The other nice perk, which I did not know about till this moment, is that the bar and restaurant above will deliver drinks and sushi any time you call! So we order a big platter of sushi and jack and cokes for all three of us and the party is ON!

I can't really describe how fun this was. The sex comes later and frankly was nothing to write home about -- good stuff, but "the usual". But the lead-up was absolutely spectacular. We start singing karaoke and drinking and eating like fiends. It is soooo much fun. Pretty soon they are bare chested and I am in my boxers and we are still singing but with plenty of hands on. Every 20 minutes or so, we call upstairs and the waitress brings us more sushi and jack and cokes. She seems completely unfazed by our semi-nakedness. OMG it is amongst the most fun I have ever had.

Eventually we do have sex, and I need to extend to two hours (pros!) but it is so worth it. Total bill for the night ends up around $1200 as I recall, but worth every penny. We must have drank a fuck of a lot of Jack, because we wrap at 4 AM and I go home and sleep a couple hours, but get a cab at 6:30 AM for my flight. In the cab, I am looking on my phone at my Visa bill because I unwisely charged some stuff on it that the wife might see. And I can't get my eyes to focus on the page. I literally cannot make my eyeballs work in coordination and read! Fuck I was still drunk as shit. Anyhow, one of the top experiences of my storied career, even today.[/QUOTE]Wow great report man, and it looks like Russia is a MUST GO for me after seeing these recent reports.

Couple questions Steve.

What can you do during those $20 for 10 minute sessions the barmaids are in your booth for? Can you make out with them, grope them? Grab their kitties?

The jack and coke and sushi at that hotel, I might be foolish to ask, but each time they bring it to you, it costs money right? How much did the hotel and the sushi and drinks cost individually?

Thank you so much for the great report man! And I look forward to your reply!

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2555120]Wow great report man, and it looks like Russia is a MUST GO for me after seeing these recent reports.

Couple questions Steve.

What can you do during those $20 for 10 minute sessions the barmaids are in your booth for? Can you make out with them, grope them? Grab their kitties?

The jack and coke and sushi at that hotel, I might be foolish to ask, but each time they bring it to you, it costs money right? How much did the hotel and the sushi and drinks cost individually?

Thank you so much for the great report man! And I look forward to your reply![/QUOTE]On the groping I don't know. I would guess so? Never occurred to me to try. Really with dancers coming off stage every five minutes and riding you with roaming hands allowed for a few bucks I never felt the urge! And I don’t know about kitty grabbing on the dancers. Probably out of bounds since I never saw it but T and A is fine.

As far as prices you can go look at the menu at https://penthouseclubmoscow.com/menu_restoran# says a California roll is 850 R or $12 today - more like $15 back then. If you look the little P by the price is actually a Rho or R for Rubles. Drinks I remember are expensive because they charge the alcohol and mixer separately. Like $15 for the Jack and $10 for the Coke. That's a bit of a shocker. But all totally worth it if you have the coin.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2555185]On the groping I don't know. I would guess so? Never occurred to me to try. Really with dancers coming off stage every five minutes and riding you with roaming hands allowed for a few bucks I never felt the urge! And I dont know about kitty grabbing on the dancers. Probably out of bounds since I never saw it but T and A is fine.

As far as prices you can go look at the menu at https://penthouseclubmoscow.com/menu_restoran# says a California roll is 850 R or $12 today - more like $15 back then. If you look the little P by the price is actually a Rho or R for Rubles. Drinks I remember are expensive because they charge the alcohol and mixer separately. Like $15 for the Jack and $10 for the Coke. That's a bit of a shocker. But all totally worth it if you have the coin.[/QUOTE]Actually looking back the drinks aren't as high as I remembered. More like $10-15 for a cocktail. That's pretty standard everywhere these days.

[QUOTE=AndrewNA;2553501]Hi guys,

Do you have any recommendations? I've been in Moscow for a week. My experience with Rusdosug and Rusprostitute is not very pleasant. It's terrible to be precise. How can I find someone real and friendly in Moscow?[/QUOTE]Have you tried IntimCity?

[QUOTE=AndrewNA;2554725]Hi there,

Share my first experience with an escort in Russia.

Checked the page of mentioned agency here - [URL]https://www.monicamoscow.com/.[/URL] There were a lot of doubts but I really loved some pictures of some girls. So it was agreed to meet via WhatsApp. I contacted the manager to ask for real pics of the girls. From what I know, there are a lot of fake photos on the website, same as it was on rusprostitute (I can't begin to fathom that awful day such a horrible and dirty monster came to me.).

I asked which of the girls is free and they sent me more than 20 pics of several varieties in WhatsApp chat. So I think that a pics on the site is trap? So I choose one girl from "gallery" a slender brown-haired model. The manager said her name is Irina 22 yo. Actually what about management, I was promised that Irina would arrive in 30-40 minutes but I had to wait for almost an hour, although I stayed at the central Kempinsky Balchug hotel. Anyway, I was really amazed and delighted when she came in it was exactly the girl from the photos! I was really glad. Sure, her look was a bit different than on the photo, but her facial features, smile and figure indicated that it was Irina herself. She was really stylish and cared-for-look, so I pretty liked it when she came. What about deficiencies, the website states that all girls speak English is 4 stars, which isn't true. She speaks English much worse, though it's common for Russia, I guess.

The service in Russia doesn't imply the included oral without and French kisses, for example. It means an hour of basic service includes classic sex, oral sex in a condom, and erotic massage. As a whole, I'm satisfied that the girl stayed with me for the whole hour, was friendly and provided a very some quality service, like in NY for example. Basically, the service rating is a strong 5..[/QUOTE]Great reports. Are things back to normal in Moscow, night clubs and restaurants fully open no restrictions?

Admittedly I have not kept up with the forum since I don't know when I can travel to Moscow. Has the visa appication process opened back up yet? How long does it take to get approval to enter the country?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2555951]Admittedly I have not kept up with the forum since I don't know when I can travel to Moscow. Has the visa appication process opened back up yet? How long does it take to get approval to enter the country?[/QUOTE]As far as today the visa application for "normal" categories (Tourist, Business, etc.) is closed at least up to June 15th. So far as I know.

IT.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2553856]Here was how I learned the Moscow scene several years ago. Many thanks to Axel who generously introduced me to the club scene. Hopefully I can introduce you!

Welcome to Russia. Escalation -- Zazhigalka, Golden Girls, and Korston.

My first time in Moscow, I didn't even know P4 P existed. My second time, I saw the light, but only via a new friend made from my glass-half-full optimism. I started out at a club that is just look and feel called Zazhigalka. As strip clubs go, it was very, very good and I had a blast. I arrived at 9, right when it opened, and I was the ONLY guy in the club. All eyes were on me! Probably 25 girls. Really sort of a 6-7 looks-rating kind of crowd -- no stunners, but some very pretty girls. Two girls hit me up (a 6 and an 8) and we had some great duo dances -- fully nude and no real restrictions on touching tits and ass or drinking while fully nude, unlike the US fully-nudes, which I find distinctly lame.

So I thought that was really good, but I clearly had no idea. The next night I went to a club called Golden Girls. It opens at 10 and I was there about 9:45. So being the outgoing guy I am, I start up a conversation with two guys at the door waiting to get in. (I can't emphasize enough how being friendly and unafraid is of great value when it comes to finding great venues for women and frankly life in general).

Well, one of the guys is a district sales manager for a large European company and the other is his local director of sales. We hit it off right away and he asks me to join them. He breezes us into the club with his VIP card and we immediately sit down and he orders hookah and drinks all around. I tried to pay a couple times, but he pretty much covered everything. Has girls coming and smoking hookah with us -- just one big party. He tells me his sales manager, who works for him, is forbidden to drink and will be our chauffeur! LOL. You see, he says, this club is the warm up club -- super pretty girls, but no sex. Then we will drive across town and go to the club with sex. Ok, I'm in![/QUOTE]Awesome report. But can you mention which month / year it's all happened? As I see the heading as first time but not year / month specific. Just asking to know whether it's been recent trip or pre covid trip.

[QUOTE=Bittencock;2377823]As I started searching for a website linking to hookers in Russia I discovered that one: [URL]https://rusprostitute.com/I[/URL]'d like to know from the veterans out here if they know that one and if it's really legit? It actually seems to good to be true. Almost all profiles are absolute hotties. But if it is, Russia might just be paradise. I'm planning to go to Moscow at the beginning of 2020 so I'm trying to figure out a plan and whatnot.[/QUOTE]I love Moscow! The girls are hot there.

Very interesting site. I didn't imagine it was legit. A lot of similar sites around. All fakes.

But I believe your report.

Did somebody try that Rebecca one?

She looks great.

[QUOTE=AndrewNA;2554725]Hi there,

Share my first experience with an escort in Russia.

Checked the page of mentioned agency here - [URL]https://www.monicamoscow.com/.[/URL] There were a lot of doubts but I really loved some pictures of some girls. So it was agreed to meet via WhatsApp. I contacted the manager to ask for real pics of the girls. From what I know, there are a lot of fake photos on the website, same as it was on rusprostitute (I can't begin to fathom that awful day such a horrible and dirty monster came to me.).

I asked which of the girls is free and they sent me more than 20 pics of several varieties in WhatsApp chat. So I think that a pics on the site is trap? So I choose one girl from "gallery" a slender brown-haired model. The manager said her name is Irina 22 yo. Actually what about management, I was promised that Irina would arrive in 30-40 minutes but I had to wait for almost an hour, although I stayed at the central Kempinsky Balchug hotel. Anyway, I was really amazed and delighted when she came in it was exactly the girl from the photos! I was really glad. Sure, her look was a bit different than on the photo, but her facial features, smile and figure indicated that it was Irina herself. She was really stylish and cared-for-look, so I pretty liked it when she came. What about deficiencies, the website states that all girls speak English is 4 stars, which isn't true. She speaks English much worse, though it's common for Russia, I guess..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BonMonger;2560096]Awesome report. But can you mention which month / year it's all happened? As I see the heading as first time but not year / month specific. Just asking to know whether it's been recent trip or pre covid trip.[/QUOTE]That Penthouse report was 2018. Not sure the month. I went again in September 2019 and it was the same. I pulled a true trifecta of Penthouse Angels and Aurora. Have no post Covid knowledge. Sorry.

Since it's kinda quiet in here, let's liven things up with my FR from 2019. Enjoy.

Moscow Trifecta -- Aurora, Angels, Penthouse.

The next time I was back in Moscow and by now I have the drill down pat. Aurora, Penthouse, and Angels are all super similar and inside the city loop or nearly so, so these are easiest to get to. I call this the Moscow Trifecta. Last time I had visited the Trifecta, but had not done the Trifecta, having failed to pull an Aurora girl. This time, I thought I'the give a fully consummated Trifecta a shot. I was not disappointed.

Oh before I get any farther a few important pro tips. First, if you go on their website there is a free entry code. You simply say it to the hostess and Bam you save the R2000 ($30 ish) entry. Did this all three nights — they did not change the code — and saved nearly $100. Sweet!

Second, apparently rooms are discounted 50% - R3000 ($40+) before 10 PM, which is not small change either. They open at nine. I did not know about this discount, nor expect to session before 10 but when you read encounter 3, you will see that I did and for good reason.

Third, like anywhere else, you can negotiate services with the girl. For some reason, this didn't occur to me till I had two CBJs; but it proved epically important in encounter three.

Aurora. JLo Look-alike Inga.

OK back to Aurora. I rolled in around 11, said "Brandy" (the passcode) to the hostess and was given free entry and a seat at the bar. Be forewarned that mixers and spirits are priced separately. So Jack is R650 and coke R500. It adds up over an evening. I settle in and scan the action. It was not explicitly stated, but when I have come in the past, the barmaids, waitresses and hostesses are equally available. So I scan all three in addition to the gogo hotties.

Of course I am sampling the dancers as they come by to offer me the lap dance, that I am tipping an apparently generous $3 for. And after a couple hours of this, I ended up getting danced on by a girl named Inga. Her face looks like Jennifer Lopez but super skinny and with a thinner, high cheekbones face. Clearly 30 ish but a ton of fun and good English. I tell her to come see me later and sure enough she is back later in a sexy black dress. She joins me and we talk quite a bit. Eventually we discuss price, which is R12000 for the girl and R6000 for the room. This appears to be standard, because it's exactly what all three girls at the three different clubs offered.

So I pay the waitress 6000 (this you could put on a card it seems) and she takes our drinks on a little tray and takes us to the room. I would say of the three clubs the Aurora room was the least nice, but still very nice. Generally high end and well mirrored with the bathroom down a notch from the other two. Still, nicer than 90% of the rooms you might come across in your career.

The in-room experience was about as expected with a very experienced girl. The CBJ surprised me a bit but I didn't protest (probably could have). And she is otherwise a wildcat. It was really all about fucking a whole lot and in various positions. A new one for me was me on knees, her legs over my shoulders and her fucking the hell out of me from the bottom.

Possibly the most interesting part of the visit was pillow talk and discussing her condoms vs mine. I'the brought Skyn which are not bad for a US brand. She'the brought purple-package Durex and had insisted on those. Afterwards she said that she and these other girls had executed a test of 8 different brands using the best blowjobber in the group and several guys and found that one to be best. We busted open one of hers and one of mine and compared and sure enough hers felt thinner / better (I was too spent for a dick-based test).

All in all a nice first experience this time in Russia. But each one was successively better.

Penthouse. Mid-eastern Hottie Anastasia.

The next night it was Penthouse. Penthouse is in a real toney part of the city with a nice bar / restaurant next door that was still hopping when I exited at 2 AM.

Arrived 10:30 or eleven I suppose. And again said "Brandy" and went straight in for free. I decided to get a couch and table at R3000 which was really nice. Actually got same one as two years ago! Got a Jack and Coke and settled in.

Of course the usual parade of girls grinding on me for R200 each. The couch is really nice for this or for other girls who may approach to chat. Worth the R3000 I'the say. Now in addition to the Gogo dancers and waitresses I notice other beautiful ladies in short tight cocktail dress roaming. I think these are dancers with a wait for their shift. Anyhow they look super nice.

There is one lovely Asian girl in a sparkly black dress but I never seem to catch her eye. I even stalk her to the back bar area but she is always engaged with some Asian dude. (I think I was literally the only round eye in the place — not sure what was going on that night). I see another gorgeous girl in a beige / silver sparkle dress and have my eye on her.

I forgot to mention that at the top of the hour they do a girl parade, up on stage, of all the girls. And immediately following that, they put on a slow song and the girls look for dance partners. I'the done this at Aurora and nothing beats slow dancing with a pretty girl (if you must have your clothes on that is). Well Anastasia (beige sparkle) tries two guys but no go. As she is walking away from my area and trying to snag another guy, I literally chase her down and make her my girl. She seems VERY pleased and pulls in close. Lovely tight slow dance with her face buried in my neck. I am a complete sap for this kind of romance. Sigh. So lovely.

I can't recall why but I don't have the sense to drag her to my table but I continue to keep an eye on her all night. Lots of hotties I consider going with, but really having an epic time at $3/ pop and enjoying the vibe.

As it nears 1 AM, I start to think I'the better grab a hottie and there is Anastasia just over on a couch all alone. Just wallflowering it — no active game at all. So I go grab her hand and escort her back to my couch. We sit and cuddle and she is very affectionate but almost zero English. But wow. Solid 9 for sure. So we agree the same R18000, including room, as I had at Aurora. Here the format is that you separate and meet at the hotel downstairs in 5 minutes.

This is the same venue where I did my epic Sushi and Jack duo two years ago and the rooms are the nicest of the three venues. Best feature is a 8 feet by 8 feet shower that has a clear glass wall to the bedroom.

So after some nice light kiss and cuddle I head to the shower. And I can see she's now naked on the bed. I give her the "come on in" finger gesture and sure enough she joins me. Nice! She helps a bit with the soap up and I soap her tits and touch her pussy lightly. It's very nice but not passionate. Still, showering with a hot girl never sucks!

In the bed this is one hot and bothered girl! Again CBJ, which I don't love, but then I roll her over to work on her some. I spend a lot of time just kissing and licking her neck and tits. I discovered with Carolina (Casarao. Brazil) last year that some small-titted girls (she is a soft bee-cup) like their tits deeply sucked. And Anastasia is no exception. I suck each tit fully into my mouth and she moans and writhes. Although I lick my way down to her belly button I am surprised when she covers her pussy with her hand — no DATY. I respect that. Her loss, but she will make it back later!

So we fuck in all the usual positions and she has no problem with FIV which I adore. She is plenty worked up and sloppy from giving the BJ and has great pussy feel in all three positions. She is truly lovely in cowgirl — a ten for that view. After some serious doggie pounding I don't think I can make it go in the condom. So I pull out and roll her over and put her hand on her pussy.

She gets the message and starts working herself and I am of course working myself and enjoying the view. She prefers finger fucking which tends to cover the view but she is working to a REAL O which is very sexy. So I eventually drop my load on the sheets but she is still going. Never seen this before. She is totally lost in it and goes another solid ten minutes till she hits a shattering O. I just kind of hold her or work her tits a bit. But it's thrilling to watch.

A nice joint shower wind-down and off we go. Back in the club, I decide to just sit and enjoy it a bit rather than hit the hay. To my surprise, Anastasia, in full sparkle, comes to sit with me and cuddle. I order her another drink and we spend another companionable 15 or so minutes together snuggling. It is a really nice wind-down and then alas I must go.

I get her WhatsApp and contact her the next day. I inquire as to whether she will BBBJ and she declines. I kick myself a bit because I am pretty certain with the initial R12,000 dangling in front of her she would have said yes. Fortunately I am smarter by night three -- read on!

Angels. A True 9. 5 Tatyana.

Having a flight the next morning I decide to go a bit earlier. I am tempted to repeat with Anastasia—what a doll — but the guaranteed CBJ sends me packing. So Angels and a true Moscow Trifecta it shall be!

I arrive Angels around 935 or 940 (completely unaware of the room special). Again "Brandy" gets me in for free. I am thinking I might go for two rounds as this is my last night for a while and have the funds to do it. So I am drinking Red Bull Vodka to get me ready for the assault!

As usual, I have a seat at the bar. I am surprised by how LAZY the girls are here. There must be only 3 or 4 guys and probably 12-15 girls but they are all just laying around on the couches to the left. No one makes any move to approach the fresh new meat just placed before them at the bar.

So I am content to sip and watch the show. After maybe 10 minutes, a girl approaches — Tatyana. And whoa is she my type. I had been with a full-on 9. 5 at Scandallo in Brazil in July named Andressa. Andressa sent me 15 model pics after our night together so I have studied every curve and perfect imperfection. This girl Tatyana could have been her twin! She even had the pronounced bikini lines of a Brasileira come to find out.

Well she asks if I want a lap dance and I say sure. And it is sexy with lots of tit squeezing and considerably longer than normal. Despite this, I vow to try to resist going to the room. I've only been there 12 minutes!

She asks if I want to go to the room — while stroking my cock in full view of the rest of the girls — and it is hard to say no; but again, I just got there. When I say "no" she says baby I don't understand? And then says oh rooms are half off till ten. Well that got my attention. I mean who doesn't like saving $50 and all I have to do is cave to this 9. 5!

So, having learned my lesson earlier I had already keyed into Google translate: "Blowjob without a condom and I lick your pussy. OK?. " She reads the Russian translation and says yes number 2 but no number 1. Damn!

So I say I am sorry baby but I really can't go then. Pregnant pause. She says— OK we do number 1. Let's go! And, after paying only R3000 for the room, we head up two flights of stairs with our waitress carrying our drinks for us. It's good to be the king.

Before we go farther, pause and take in how easy it was to get BJ no condom -- I simply had to make it a deal breaker. I was prepared to walk and she caved in literally seconds. That's not to say this will happen every time, but often, if you are truly prepared to walk, the negotiation will go your way. This is true worldwide -- make clear what you want, be prepared to walk, and you will often get it.

In the room, what a sweetheart. No hard feelings over negotiation. No rushing. No cheating. Great girl. First we kiss and cuddle and then she helps me undress (love that) and then leads me by the hand to the shower. She then does full on bath prep like I've only had in Japan. I am not to do anything but enjoy, as she soaps me up, including armpits, dick, balls and taint. She gets me super clean and I soap her some too. Gives a nice preview blowjob too. I hope that is not the limit of her BBBJ though and oh my -- definitely not!

Back in the bed she puts me on my back. Now to be fair she is a careful girl and douses me in alcohol before proceeding. Totally worth it. She embarks on a top five BBBJ. She knows just how to do it -- lovely BLS, followed by shaft licking. Tongue tapping under the head. Full mouth for some pumps and then. Rinse repeat. OMFG. At least 20 minutes of this. It is pure heaven. She is a magician!

I consider finishing like this but decide to fuck her for a while. We start in cowgirl where she is extremely vocal but I totally believe her. Very sexy. I even think I might cum there. We switch to mish. Same thing. Very vocal. Great feeling. Might cum but don't. Doggie is a little disappointing lacking feeling.

Lose the condom and after enduring a re-alcoholing (brrrr) we do more BBBJ. It remains spectacular but even more so after fucking. We probably go another 10 minutes at this. In the end I finish by hand while she licks and sucks my balls. Lovely.

When I cum she seems a bit exasperated. And I wonder if I got some on her face or mouth or what. But pretty quickly she says "I'm sorry" indicating she failed me by my needing to use my own hand. What a sweetheart. I tell her it's fine and how beautiful she is about ten times and all is good.

Final shower is just as good as prep -- she fully cleans me and my johnson and the boys. What a wonderful attentive girl.

I give her a $40 tip. What a trooper BBBJing for nearly the whole session and shower before and after. What a keeper. Got her WhatsApp! And she sent a pic the next day (most girls will) and no beer goggles at work here — she is a real cutie.

Hello everyone,

I am planning a trip in Moscow soon and I would like to book some girls from intimcity. NL but they are asking for prepaid on phone.

How does this work?

How can I prepay them?

Are there cards to buy from Moscow and they have credit on them like 10000 rubles, 20000 rubles etc.

Please enlighten me.

[QUOTE=VorteXz;2566473]Hello everyone,
I am planning a trip in Moscow soon and I would like to book some girls from intimcity. NL but they are asking for prepaid on phone.

How does this work? How can I prepay them? Are there cards to buy from Moscow and they have credit on them like 10000 rubles, 20000 rubles etc. Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Never prepay a girl. Not in Moscow, not in any other place. Asking for a prepayment and never actually showing up is one of the most common scams.

[QUOTE=VorteXz;2566473]
How does this work?
Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]I will explain how this works for you:

Example 1.

Step 1 - The girl asks for pre-payment.

Step 2 - You make the payment as agreed.

Step 3 - Girl blocks your phone number.

Step 4 - You learn the lesson not to ever pre pay for sex.

Example 2.

Step 1 - The girl asks for pre-payment.

Step 2 - You laugh in her face and move on to the next profile.

[QUOTE=Kaappo22;2566765]Never prepay a girl. Not in Moscow, not in any other place. Asking for a prepayment and never actually showing up is one of the most common scams.[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting me know.

The problem is all of the girls I have contacted for outcall at my hotel room asked for prepaid.

LOL.

[QUOTE=VorteXz;2567103]Thanks for letting me know.

The problem is all of the girls I have contacted for outcall at my hotel room asked for prepaid.

LOL.[/QUOTE]Be smart.

They are asking for prepayment either to scam you or in this case it could be to avoid "being scammed" themselves. In order to get a girl to agree to an outcall you'll need to build trust. I would recommend that you offer to book and arrange the taxi from her place to yours. Use an app similar to Uber and make the booking so that she knows that you are serious and a genuine customer. This is how I have managed to get girls to agree to outcalls without prepayment on previous occasions.

Hi all,

I am visiting Moscow for the first ever time in about 2 weeks. I have had a look around the forum and have some general understanding which strip clubs I'll be visiting. My question for my friends here is whether the ongoing spike in cases in Moscow has lead to any kind of restrictions on strip clubs? Are there reduced hours? Have services been fundamentally changed?

On an unrelated note, does anyone know what the situation is generally? While I am going primarily to see the lovely ladies of Russia, I would also like to go see some of the museums. I appreciate any guidance! I know that first time posters aren't usually greeted warmly, but a guy has got to start somewhere, right?

[QUOTE=Eyeshield21;2574416]Hi all,

I am visiting Moscow for the first ever time in about 2 weeks. I have had a look around the forum and have some general understanding which strip clubs I'll be visiting. My question for my friends here is whether the ongoing spike in cases in Moscow has lead to any kind of restrictions on strip clubs? Are there reduced hours? Have services been fundamentally changed?

On an unrelated note, does anyone know what the situation is generally? While I am going primarily to see the lovely ladies of Russia, I would also like to go see some of the museums. I appreciate any guidance! I know that first time posters aren't usually greeted warmly, but a guy has got to start somewhere, right?[/QUOTE]Dude, your timing is not the best.

[URL]https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/06/29/moscows-qr-code-system-for-restaurant-access-explained-a74373[/URL]

I'm planning on visiting Moscow later this year, hopefully just before Christmas. When I have been travelling in the Ukraine, I have booked local apartments using Dobovo. Is there a russian equivalent of AirBnB similar to Dobovo, or does everyone use AirBnB and Booking for short stay apartments?

I'd like to have outcalls as much as time allows, which is why I want an apartment. I'm hoping to avoid questions and "taxes" from receptionists and security.

How does it work in Moscow? Am I just better off with a hotel? Is there anything I should look out for when selecting an apartment?

Thanks in advance for any input.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2574916]I'm planning on visiting Moscow later this year, hopefully just before Christmas. When I have been travelling in the Ukraine, I have booked local apartments using Dobovo. Is there a russian equivalent of AirBnB similar to Dobovo, or does everyone use AirBnB and Booking for short stay apartments?

I'd like to have outcalls as much as time allows, which is why I want an apartment. I'm hoping to avoid questions and "taxes" from receptionists and security.

How does it work in Moscow? Am I just better off with a hotel? Is there anything I should look out for when selecting an apartment?

Thanks in advance for any input.[/QUOTE]Example: [URL]https://www.cian.ru/snyat-kvartiru-posutochno/[/URL].

Stay within the inner Boulevard Circle and walking distance to metro in a modern building or an historic pre-1956 building.

Nothing wrong with a proper hotel. Outcalls will charge you extra.

[QUOTE=Questner;2575099]Outcalls will charge you extra.[/QUOTE]This is good advice, thank you.

I noticed that for many escorts charge almost 3 x the incall rate for visits and in some cases Taxi fees are on top. Is this the actual pricing, or do they list it that way to discourage time wasters and idiots?

[QUOTE=VinDici;2575172]This is good advice, thank you.

I noticed that for many escorts charge almost 3 x the incall rate for visits and in some cases Taxi fees are on top. Is this the actual pricing, or do they list it that way to discourage time wasters and idiots?[/QUOTE]Time is money and yes, drivers have to get paid. Nonsense won't be tolerated. Best deals are are for 2 hours when you can enjoy the conversation, the foreplay, etc. Rates are within 150 to 400 euro.

Dear Friends,

I would like to get Russian tourist or Evisa. Today I checked Russian Government site and unfortunately all kind of tourist visas were suspended by government. Does anyone has any idea is there a possibility to obtain a tourist visa for Russia?

[QUOTE=MNetherlands;2575689]Dear Friends,

I would like to get Russian tourist or Evisa. Today I checked Russian Government site and unfortunately all kind of tourist visas were suspended by government. Does anyone has any idea is there a possibility to obtain a tourist visa for Russia?[/QUOTE]Well, if the Russian Government suspended all kind of tourist visas, then unfortunately you will not be able to obtain it. The problem now IMHO is the Delta variants which are deadlier than the normal virus. Some restaurants you can't enter without your vaccination code and in Krasnodar even a beach is now only accessible for vaccinated people or those with certified proof of the antibodies. It doesn't look good at the moment.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2576639]Well, if the Russian Government suspended all kind of tourist visas, then unfortunately you will not be able to obtain it. The problem now IMHO is the Delta variants which are deadlier than the normal virus. Some restaurants you can't enter without your vaccination code and in Krasnodar even a beach is now only accessible for vaccinated people or those with certified proof of the antibodies. It doesn't look good at the moment.[/QUOTE]For some countries it has been giving visas.

Belgium.

Bulgaria.

Jordan.

Italy.

Ireland.

Cyprus.

Macedonia.

USA.

Turkey.

Switzerland.

Egypt.

UAE.

You can get a tourist visa if citizen of these countries.

Anyway,

Steve's FR's are outstanding, based on his report I will be doing the exact same thing. Angels, penthouse, aurora & korston.

However, how can one find normal independent workers with real photos? Is there a website for general ads where there is also "women seeking men" section where all the independent prostitutes have posted an ad with photos and other information? Like for example in Bulgaria, there is a big classifieds website called "alo. Bg" and there is a section for 18+ and pretty much all the independents use that website and there are thousands of ads with high quality photos and good descriptions and stats. Height, age etc.

I am looking to explore a variety of appearances while visiting so would love to have that possibility to find independents in Moscow or St Petersburg.

[QUOTE=EuroHero;2577245]However, how can one find normal independent workers with real photos? Is there a website for general ads where there is also "women seeking men" section where all the independent prostitutes have posted an ad with photos and other information?[/QUOTE]Intimcity NL.

Rusdosug com.

Google it.

Is it hard to get Russian escorts and SA girls to go bare, assuming I have a recent clean test do you think some girls will allow it.

[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2583716]Is it hard to get Russian escorts and SA girls to go bare, assuming I have a recent clean test do you think some girls will allow it.[/QUOTE]Not all WGs in Russia speak English, so do you have this in English? There is a company call invitro in almost any district of Moscow, you can make a test there, so the results will be in Russian. But IMHO I don't think it's a good idea to go bareback with a WG. But this is just my opinion, not judging you. I think it depends also a lot of what kind of WG. Those who use drugs, and those who are clean, etc.

Talking about drugs, I noticed in recent times that there is a drug going around called "mif" aka "meow", a kind of synthetic stuff. Just for the record: I don't take any kind of drugs. According to a friend of mine monger (who bangs also many freebies from dating apps), some girls like to take it before sex. He also doesn't take drugs, but he knows when the girl took it by the smell and behavior (the girl becomes wilder in bed) and some tell him that they take it very openly. As for me on my end prefer girls who are clean.

[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2583716]Is it hard to get Russian escorts and SA girls to go bare, assuming I have a recent clean test do you think some girls will allow it.[/QUOTE]Look for ads with 'MBP' in the text (meaning BBBJ). Some will charge more, some won't do it.

Addendum to Steve 9696's excellent strip club report:

1) Aurora no longer has a free entry password. However they do offer a free private dance if you give them your cell number on their website (2000 rub value so it's equivalent to the entry fee).

2) Sunday night talent wasn't great, but maybe two I would waste money on.

3) From 9-10 pm drinks and food are half off. So that 500 beer is now 250. Not bad.

4) Apparently there's a free taxi between Aurora, Penthouse, Hunters, Loft and Angels.

Club-aurora. Ru.

Club-hunters. Ru.

Clubangels. Ru.

Penthouseclubmoscow com.

Loftclub. Ru.

If anyone is in town this week and wants company visiting the clubs, drop me a PM.

RtW.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2564663]Since it's kinda quiet in here, let's liven things up with my FR from 2019. Enjoy.

Moscow Trifecta -- Aurora, Angels, Penthouse.

The next time I was back in Moscow and by now I have the drill down pat. Aurora, Penthouse, and Angels are all super similar and inside the city loop or nearly so, so these are easiest to get to. I call this the Moscow Trifecta. Last time I had visited the Trifecta, but had not done the Trifecta, having failed to pull an Aurora girl. This time, I thought I'the give a fully consummated Trifecta a shot. I was not disappointed.

Oh before I get any farther a few important pro tips. First, if you go on their website there is a free entry code. You simply say it to the hostess and Bam you save the R2000 ($30 ish) entry. Did this all three nights they did not change the code and saved nearly $100. Sweet!

Second, apparently rooms are discounted 50% - R3000 ($40+) before 10 PM, which is not small change either. They open at nine. I did not know about this discount, nor expect to session before 10 but when you read encounter 3, you will see that I did and for good reason.

Third, like anywhere else, you can negotiate services with the girl. For some reason, this didn't occur to me till I had two CBJs; but it proved epically important in encounter three.

Aurora. JLo Look-alike Inga.

OK back to Aurora. I rolled in around 11, said "Brandy" (the passcode) to the hostess and was given free entry and a seat at the bar. Be forewarned that mixers and spirits are priced separately. So Jack is R650 and coke R500. It adds up over an evening. I settle in and scan the action. It was not explicitly stated, but when I have come in the past, the barmaids, waitresses and hostesses are equally available. So I scan all three in addition to the gogo hotties.

Of course I am sampling the dancers as they come by to offer me the lap dance, that I am tipping an apparently generous $3 for. And after a couple hours of this, I ended up getting danced on by a girl named Inga. Her face looks like Jennifer Lopez but super skinny and with a thinner, high cheekbones face. Clearly 30 ish but a ton of fun and good English. I tell her to come see me later and sure enough she is back later in a sexy black dress. She joins me and we talk quite a bit. Eventually we discuss price, which is R12000 for the girl and R6000 for the room. This appears to be standard, because it's exactly what all three girls at the three different clubs offered.

So I pay the waitress 6000 (this you could put on a card it seems) and she takes our drinks on a little tray and takes us to the room. I would say of the three clubs the Aurora room was the least nice, but still very nice. Generally high end and well mirrored with the bathroom down a notch from the other two. Still, nicer than 90% of the rooms you might come across in your career.

The in-room experience was about as expected with a very experienced girl. The CBJ surprised me a bit but I didn't protest (probably could have). And she is otherwise a wildcat. It was really all about fucking a whole lot and in various positions. A new one for me was me on knees, her legs over my shoulders and her fucking the hell out of me from the bottom.

Possibly the most interesting part of the visit was pillow talk and discussing her condoms vs mine. I'the brought Skyn which are not bad for a US brand. She'the brought purple-package Durex and had insisted on those. Afterwards she said that she and these other girls had executed a test of 8 different brands using the best blowjobber in the group and several guys and found that one to be best. We busted open one of hers and one of mine and compared and sure enough hers felt thinner / better (I was too spent for a dick-based test).

All in all a nice first experience this time in Russia. But each one was successively better.

Penthouse. Mid-eastern Hottie Anastasia.

The next night it was Penthouse. Penthouse is in a real toney part of the city with a nice bar / restaurant next door that was still hopping when I exited at 2 AM.

Arrived 10:30 or eleven I suppose. And again said "Brandy" and went straight in for free. I decided to get a couch and table at R3000 which was really nice. Actually got same one as two years ago! Got a Jack and Coke and settled in.

Of course the usual parade of girls grinding on me for R200 each. The couch is really nice for this or for other girls who may approach to chat. Worth the R3000 I'the say. Now in addition to the Gogo dancers and waitresses I notice other beautiful ladies in short tight cocktail dress roaming. I think these are dancers with a wait for their shift. Anyhow they look super nice.

There is one lovely Asian girl in a sparkly black dress but I never seem to catch her eye. I even stalk her to the back bar area but she is always engaged with some Asian dude. (I think I was literally the only round eye in the place not sure what was going on that night). I see another gorgeous girl in a beige / silver sparkle dress and have my eye on her.

I forgot to mention that at the top of the hour they do a girl parade, up on stage, of all the girls. And immediately following that, they put on a slow song and the girls look for dance partners. I'the done this at Aurora and nothing beats slow dancing with a pretty girl (if you must have your clothes on that is). Well Anastasia (beige sparkle) tries two guys but no go. As she is walking away from my area and trying to snag another guy, I literally chase her down and make her my girl. She seems VERY pleased and pulls in close. Lovely tight slow dance with her face buried in my neck. I am a complete sap for this kind of romance. Sigh. So lovely.

I can't recall why but I don't have the sense to drag her to my table but I continue to keep an eye on her all night. Lots of hotties I consider going with, but really having an epic time at $3/ pop and enjoying the vibe.

As it nears 1 AM, I start to think I'the better grab a hottie and there is Anastasia just over on a couch all alone. Just wallflowering it no active game at all. So I go grab her hand and escort her back to my couch. We sit and cuddle and she is very affectionate but almost zero English. But wow. Solid 9 for sure. So we agree the same R18000, including room, as I had at Aurora. Here the format is that you separate and meet at the hotel downstairs in 5 minutes.

This is the same venue where I did my epic Sushi and Jack duo two years ago and the rooms are the nicest of the three venues. Best feature is a 8 feet by 8 feet shower that has a clear glass wall to the bedroom.

So after some nice light kiss and cuddle I head to the shower. And I can see she's now naked on the bed. I give her the "come on in" finger gesture and sure enough she joins me. Nice! She helps a bit with the soap up and I soap her tits and touch her pussy lightly. It's very nice but not passionate. Still, showering with a hot girl never sucks!

In the bed this is one hot and bothered girl! Again CBJ, which I don't love, but then I roll her over to work on her some. I spend a lot of time just kissing and licking her neck and tits. I discovered with Carolina (Casarao. Brazil) last year that some small-titted girls (she is a soft bee-cup) like their tits deeply sucked. And Anastasia is no exception. I suck each tit fully into my mouth and she moans and writhes. Although I lick my way down to her belly button I am surprised when she covers her pussy with her hand no DATY. I respect that. Her loss, but she will make it back later!

So we fuck in all the usual positions and she has no problem with FIV which I adore. She is plenty worked up and sloppy from giving the BJ and has great pussy feel in all three positions. She is truly lovely in cowgirl a ten for that view. After some serious doggie pounding I don't think I can make it go in the condom. So I pull out and roll her over and put her hand on her pussy.

She gets the message and starts working herself and I am of course working myself and enjoying the view. She prefers finger fucking which tends to cover the view but she is working to a REAL O which is very sexy. So I eventually drop my load on the sheets but she is still going. Never seen this before. She is totally lost in it and goes another solid ten minutes till she hits a shattering O. I just kind of hold her or work her tits a bit. But it's thrilling to watch.

A nice joint shower wind-down and off we go. Back in the club, I decide to just sit and enjoy it a bit rather than hit the hay. To my surprise, Anastasia, in full sparkle, comes to sit with me and cuddle. I order her another drink and we spend another companionable 15 or so minutes together snuggling. It is a really nice wind-down and then alas I must go.

I get her WhatsApp and contact her the next day. I inquire as to whether she will BBBJ and she declines. I kick myself a bit because I am pretty certain with the initial R12,000 dangling in front of her she would have said yes. Fortunately I am smarter by night three -- read on!

Angels. A True 9. 5 Tatyana.

Having a flight the next morning I decide to go a bit earlier. I am tempted to repeat with Anastasiawhat a doll but the guaranteed CBJ sends me packing. So Angels and a true Moscow Trifecta it shall be!

I arrive Angels around 935 or 940 (completely unaware of the room special). Again "Brandy" gets me in for free. I am thinking I might go for two rounds as this is my last night for a while and have the funds to do it. So I am drinking Red Bull Vodka to get me ready for the assault!

As usual, I have a seat at the bar. I am surprised by how LAZY the girls are here. There must be only 3 or 4 guys and probably 12-15 girls but they are all just laying around on the couches to the left. No one makes any move to approach the fresh new meat just placed before them at the bar.

So I am content to sip and watch the show. After maybe 10 minutes, a girl approaches Tatyana. And whoa is she my type. I had been with a full-on 9. 5 at Scandallo in Brazil in July named Andressa. Andressa sent me 15 model pics after our night together so I have studied every curve and perfect imperfection. This girl Tatyana could have been her twin! She even had the pronounced bikini lines of a Brasileira come to find out.

Well she asks if I want a lap dance and I say sure. And it is sexy with lots of tit squeezing and considerably longer than normal. Despite this, I vow to try to resist going to the room. I've only been there 12 minutes!

She asks if I want to go to the room while stroking my cock in full view of the rest of the girls and it is hard to say no; but again, I just got there. When I say "no" she says baby I don't understand? And then says oh rooms are half off till ten. Well that got my attention. I mean who doesn't like saving $50 and all I have to do is cave to this 9. 5!

So, having learned my lesson earlier I had already keyed into Google translate: "Blowjob without a condom and I lick your pussy. OK?. " She reads the Russian translation and says yes number 2 but no number 1. Damn!

So I say I am sorry baby but I really can't go then. Pregnant pause. She says OK we do number 1. Let's go! And, after paying only R3000 for the room, we head up two flights of stairs with our waitress carrying our drinks for us. It's good to be the king.

Before we go farther, pause and take in how easy it was to get BJ no condom -- I simply had to make it a deal breaker. I was prepared to walk and she caved in literally seconds. That's not to say this will happen every time, but often, if you are truly prepared to walk, the negotiation will go your way. This is true worldwide -- make clear what you want, be prepared to walk, and you will often get it.

In the room, what a sweetheart. No hard feelings over negotiation. No rushing. No cheating. Great girl. First we kiss and cuddle and then she helps me undress (love that) and then leads me by the hand to the shower. She then does full on bath prep like I've only had in Japan. I am not to do anything but enjoy, as she soaps me up, including armpits, dick, balls and taint. She gets me super clean and I soap her some too. Gives a nice preview blowjob too. I hope that is not the limit of her BBBJ though and oh my -- definitely not!

Back in the bed she puts me on my back. Now to be fair she is a careful girl and douses me in alcohol before proceeding. Totally worth it. She embarks on a top five BBBJ. She knows just how to do it -- lovely BLS, followed by shaft licking. Tongue tapping under the head. Full mouth for some pumps and then. Rinse repeat. OMFG. At least 20 minutes of this. It is pure heaven. She is a magician!

I consider finishing like this but decide to fuck her for a while. We start in cowgirl where she is extremely vocal but I totally believe her. Very sexy. I even think I might cum there. We switch to mish. Same thing. Very vocal. Great feeling. Might cum but don't. Doggie is a little disappointing lacking feeling.

Lose the condom and after enduring a re-alcoholing (brrrr) we do more BBBJ. It remains spectacular but even more so after fucking. We probably go another 10 minutes at this. In the end I finish by hand while she licks and sucks my balls. Lovely.

When I cum she seems a bit exasperated. And I wonder if I got some on her face or mouth or what. But pretty quickly she says "I'm sorry" indicating she failed me by my needing to use my own hand. What a sweetheart. I tell her it's fine and how beautiful she is about ten times and all is good.

Final shower is just as good as prep -- she fully cleans me and my johnson and the boys. What a wonderful attentive girl.

I give her a $40 tip. What a trooper BBBJing for nearly the whole session and shower before and after. What a keeper. Got her WhatsApp! And she sent a pic the next day (most girls will) and no beer goggles at work here she is a real cutie.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VorteXz;2567103]Thanks for letting me know.

The problem is all of the girls I have contacted for outcall at my hotel room asked for prepaid.

LOL.[/QUOTE]It looks like most of the girls asked for prepay but they asked for a smaller amount. These girls have good reviews in both dosug. NL and intimcity. NL. I adon't know how trustworthy they are. Long time ago, I used to pick up girls at clubs like night flight, chesterfield etc. Are there any such places?

[QUOTE=Jes007;2589254]It looks like most of the girls asked for prepay but they asked for a smaller amount. [/QUOTE]My monger friend paid 2000 are in advance via smartphone and the girl did not show up. He complained on her telegram (girls who don't want to give her phone number, it's already a red flag, small flag, but red), she then deleted the chat and blocked him. The money is gone. There is absolutely nothing he can do now.

[QUOTE=Jes007;2589254] Long time ago, I used to pick up girls at clubs like night flight, chesterfield etc. Are there any such places?[/QUOTE]Freebies on NF? Interesting. Or you are talking about WGs? I heard that they closed BTW.

Chesterfield still exists, but it's rather a obychno night club, not a brothel nor strip club. During the day it's just a restaurant, among many others at New Arbat. Sometimes local companies book it for 'Korporativ'.

Many freebies there at the ladies' night thou (used to be on Wednesdays, now Idk).

I received a question about travel to Russia so I thought I would provide the answer for public benefit too.

July 28,2021 the Russian Federation opened to travel for travelers carrying certain passports AND traveling from certain countries.

In my case, I have a passport from one of the approved countries with a 3 year visa I acquired in 2019.

But I made the mistake of trying to fly thru a country not on the accepted travel countries. I tried to fly via Latvia on AirBaltic. At customs in moscow, I was not allowed to enter. I ended up buying a ticket to / from Istanbul (which is on the approved list) for the next morning. Later that day after flying 8 hours to Turkey and back, I was finally admitted into the Russian Federation.

Hope this saves some of you some hassle.

RTW.

I am in Moscow for another week; been trying to find WG to visit my hotel.

Checked out intimcity and rusodog, either no response or they keep stalling.

Seems a lot of scammers, even after agreeing to everything, the girl just doesn't show up!

I was watching a you tube video of someone who was dealing with a Russian prostitute.

Everyone was saying that Russian girls come across very direct and not nice and that is just how girls in Russia are due to their culture.

I am actually attracted to girls who are basically WG. I don't know why I'm attracted to girls like this, but I like them direct, kind of like I'm annoying to them and I am wasting their time, etc.

Would you say Russia is a good place for me if I want the girls to be direct and kind of like WG, or would there be even a better country in Europe?

Thanks.

Post the link of the video, so that we can see it as well.

IHMO to answer your question I can tell 2 things: most girls are nice. But yes, if you go to one for bla bla they can become annoyed of you, as you know time is money. But I think WGs in any country don't want to waste their time for nothing. Yes, they are direct, it's due to the culture. No fake simile, basically WYSIWYG. But concerning their, well 'profession' they are not very open and direct, and they should not be very open and direct about this because it is still man illegal profession. So, it's rare that they will openly admit they are a Pro. Once I went to one with a lot of mileage (recommended by a friend, but I didn't tell this to her), prior we had a small talk on telegram and when I asked what is her usual procedure, she wrote "I don't know, I am doing this for the first time", too funny. But maybe it's the way she found to protect herself.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2593084] Would you say Russia is a good place for me if I want the girls to be direct and kind of like WG, or would there be even a better country in Europe?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Any country where Prostitution is allowed would be better for you. Germany for example. So that you can focus on the fuck and not on 'how not to get arrested.'

[QUOTE=HydLover;2592605]I am in Moscow for another week; been trying to find WG to visit my hotel.

Checked out intimcity and rusodog, either no response or they keep stalling.

Seems a lot of scammers, even after agreeing to everything, the girl just doesn't show up![/QUOTE]Did you make phone call to them, or short messages, what'sapp, viber wrote in Russian or English.

Try to change position you go to their place what would respond.

Make sure you get a russian number +79 and then search intimcity for girls near your metro stop who respond via Whatsapp. I had more responses than I could see.

I wound up seeing a tall brunette from Kazan at my hotel 6000 rub, a 20 well reviewed blonde at her apt walking distance from my hotel 10.000 rub, an 18 blonde from Arkangelsk at my hotel 10.000 rub. All were BBBJ, CIF or CIM and each surprised me with how friendly and nice service they offered. Maybe because they were not Moscow natives.

RtW.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2593568]Did you make phone call to them, or short messages, what'sapp, viber wrote in Russian or English.

Try to change position you go to their place what would respond.[/QUOTE]

Fellows,

Can any fellow mongers who have good knowledge of the Moscow scene kindly offer some salon recommendations please.

I have read the forum back 20 pages but couldn't see much info. I will be in Moscow for a week and keen on visiting salon's where it's possible to choose from a lineup. I will be staying near Chekovska within the garden ring but can travel to other areas.

Criteria is:

- Ok to spend 6000/7000 roubles each visit (can pay a bit more for good quality).

- Girls looks should be around 7+.

- Salons with about 6+ girls available to choose from is the sort of place I like. But smaller salons should be ok as well, of course much depends on day of week and time of day.

- Any established salons with good reputations?

I saw on rusdosug a number of salons listed but not sure if the pictures of the girls are actually real at all.

Third time in Moscow but haven't tried p4 p there as previously I was with Russian GF 24/7. I will of course be trying out some of the indy's as well.

I like the salon concept as you can just turn up when you want and there should be a girl that's good quality, no waiting hours for her not to turn up, no feeling the bait and switch, no taxi fares etc.

Thanks fellows. Will definitely will report back.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2613498]It seems Russia has such hot girls when looking at the higher class escorts.

Am I basically right that Russia will probably offer me the hottest girls anywhere if I'm into white girls?

I'm looking for quality over quantity here.[/QUOTE]Yep, Moscow is amazing. I wish I had more time to travel, but my work has changed. Making great money, but I have very little time for International Trips. I will have to stick with Mexico.

If you have the time and the budget, Russian chicks are by far the most Beautiful. $200-400 you can have models, all day long, real ones. Not the crap that some of these other guys claim in other destinations. They are every where in Moscow. They are a little crazy and most hate working. They love Holidays.

I am sure they are hurting for money now with Covid, so you should have no problem finding some Great Girls. Good luck.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2613625]Yep, Moscow is amazing. I wish I had more time to travel, but my work has changed. Making great money, but I have very little time for International Trips. I will have to stick with Mexico.

If you have the time and the budget, Russian chicks are by far the most Beautiful. $200-400 you can have models, all day long, real ones. Not the crap that some of these other guys claim in other destinations. They are every where in Moscow. They are a little crazy and most hate working. They love Holidays.

I am sure they are hurting for money now with Covid, so you should have no problem finding some Great Girls. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Hi DramaFree,

Do you have any recommendations where to look for model type girls in Russia? I'm not a regular contrubutor in this forum but I am very active in the Tijuana Forum, I've always wanted to visit Russia for the white girls, I'm mexican and latin girls have always been available to me, but like any new traveler to a new country were you don't even know the language I would like a few pointers first.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2615590]Hi DramaFree,

Do you have any recommendations where to look for model type girls in Russia? I'm not a regular contrubutor in this forum but I am very active in the Tijuana Forum, I've always wanted to visit Russia for the white girls, I'm mexican and latin girls have always been available to me, but like any new traveler to a new country were you don't even know the language I would like a few pointers first.[/QUOTE]Easiest route if you have money is the strip clubs. There are a set with onsite sex rooms. Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse. Do a search for "trifecta" and you should find my report on 2019 and hitting all three clubs and the basics of how it's played. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2615599]Easiest route if you have money is the strip clubs. There are a set with onsite sex rooms. Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse. Do a search for "trifecta" and you should find my report on 2019 and hitting all three clubs and the basics of how it's played. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Wow, I am jealous. I wish I could go to Moscow. My work situation as changed, making crazy money, but zero time. 70-80 work weeks and no relief in the near future.

I would have to agree with Steve. You can find some real hot girls at the Strip Bars. I would also use SA and other online dating sites. You can try the Escort Agency I was using, I do not remember the name, but you can find the name in my old posts. Night clubs are fun, but people stop going out as much. They are only real good on the weekends.

Have a great trip, unfortunately there is no golden ticket. Hard work, some game, time and money is the only way to find some Hot Chicks.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2615609]Wow, I am jealous. I wish I could go to Moscow. My work situation as changed, making crazy money, but zero time. 70-80 work weeks and no relief in the near future.

I would have to agree with Steve. You can find some real hot girls at the Strip Bars. I would also use SA and other online dating sites. You can try the Escort Agency I was using, I do not remember the name, but you can find the name in my old posts. Night clubs are fun, but people stop going out as much. They are only real good on the weekends.

Have a great trip, unfortunately there is no golden ticket. Hard work, some game, time and money is the only way to find some Hot Chicks.[/QUOTE]DramaFree and I agree that Moscow is awesome. Soooo many hot chicks. But I need to clarify that the "hard work, some game" aspect doesn't apply to the strip clubs. That's why it costs more. DF has had amazing "in the wild" experiences like I do in the USA with Seeking. But if you have money the clubs mentioned are your surest way with no hard work or game. They will literally come to you and grind on you naked and you just decide who you want to take. In 2019 it was 18000 R for bar fine and girl. Doesn't include cover, drinks, or room. Totally worth it to me but it all depends on your budget.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2615787]DramaFree and I agree that Moscow is awesome. Soooo many hot chicks. But I need to clarify that the "hard work, some game" aspect doesn't apply to the strip clubs. That's why it costs more. DF has had amazing "in the wild" experiences like I do in the USA with Seeking. But if you have money the clubs mentioned are your surest way with no hard work or game. They will literally come to you and grind on you naked and you just decide who you want to take. In 2019 it was 18000 R for bar fine and girl. Doesn't include cover, drinks, or room. Totally worth it to me but it all depends on your budget.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. Especially short term. Moscow was not expensive at all when I was there, very reasonable, if you use common sense.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2615787]DramaFree and I agree that Moscow is awesome. Soooo many hot chicks. But I need to clarify that the "hard work, some game" aspect doesn't apply to the strip clubs. That's why it costs more. DF has had amazing "in the wild" experiences like I do in the USA with Seeking. But if you have money the clubs mentioned are your surest way with no hard work or game. They will literally come to you and grind on you naked and you just decide who you want to take. In 2019 it was 18000 R for bar fine and girl. Doesn't include cover, drinks, or room. Totally worth it to me but it all depends on your budget.[/QUOTE]How does Scandallo / Bomboa compare to the Russian clubs wrt talent?

[QUOTE=Rextor;2616703]How does Scandallo / Bomboa compare to the Russian clubs wrt talent?[/QUOTE]Hey Rextor! Welcome to Moscow. To answer your specific question at the high end clubs like Aurora, Penthouse, and Angels the girls are all pretty. Russian not Brasilian but I would say mostly a 7 and 8's crowd with outliers both directions. The girls at Golden Girls are even prettier but it's hands on tits only. The three I just mentioned are full sex on site like Scandallo and Bomboa.

As far as performance there is no one that can match a Brasileira for making you feel like their boyfriend but I've had solid GFE from a sex standpoint from several Moscow club girls.

In a lot of ways it's like Scandallo. Not quite as lux but still very classy. And quite expensive compared to most places. But you get what you pay for. The big difference is Scandallo is a nightclub and these places are strip clubs. There are two great parts of the stripclub approach though. The first is that every girl who comes off stage goes to all the guys in the club and grinds naked on your lap. They allow T and A grabbing and only expect a $3 tip — because they are trying to seal the deal. You can of course decline but they seem rather sad and it's only $3 for fuck sake.

The second nice thing is every hour they do a full parade on stage in evening dresses. Then each girl finds a guy to slow dance with. This is also super nice and can lead to a real connection.

So if you like strip clubs notionally but hate they are generally no sex in the states and you like the Scandallo vibe you will like Moscow. Plus it's a great city. Feels like Paris more than anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2616713]Hey Rextor! Welcome to Moscow. To answer your specific question at the high end clubs like Aurora, Penthouse, and Angels the girls are all pretty. Russian not Brasilian but I would say mostly a 7 and 8's crowd with outliers both directions. The girls at Golden Girls are even prettier but it's hands on tits only. The three I just mentioned are full sex on site like Scandallo and Bomboa.

As far as performance there is no one that can match a Brasileira for making you feel like their boyfriend but I've had solid GFE from a sex standpoint from several Moscow club girls.

In a lot of ways it's like Scandallo. Not quite as lux but still very classy. And quite expensive compared to most places. But you get what you pay for. The big difference is Scandallo is a nightclub and these places are strip clubs. There are two great parts of the stripclub approach though. The first is that every girl who comes off stage goes to all the guys in the club and grinds naked on your lap. They allow T and A grabbing and only expect a $3 tip because they are trying to seal the deal. You can of course decline but they seem rather sad and it's only $3 for fuck sake.

The second nice thing is every hour they do a full parade on stage in evening dresses. Then each girl finds a guy to slow dance with. This is also super nice and can lead to a real connection.

So if you like strip clubs notionally but hate they are generally no sex in the states and you like the Scandallo vibe you will like Moscow. Plus it's a great city. Feels like Paris more than anywhere else.[/QUOTE]Oh the other great thing about these clubs — they are all owned by the same guy so same format at each — is that ALL girls are on offer. The hostess greeters, the waitresses, and the bar maids. I had an epic duo with two bar maids from Penthouse and there is just something about being king and being able to pick any girl you see that is just an amazing feeling.

Nice! Good to know. I love me some snow white girls, which Moscow I'm sure is chock full of. There's just so many barriers to going to Russia though. Language, time zone, visa, being put on another list by the government, etc. Maybe some day.

Hi everyone,

My friend has travelled to Moscow recently for some fun and partying. Unfortunately, due to current lockdown situation, all the clubs and spas are closed. Can anyone share the contact of individuals girls, who can invite him in her apartment or come to his hotel.

I would appreciate any contacts.

I plan to visit Russia some time. No exact plans yet, it will wait until lockdowns and Covid are over. From reading here, it sounds like strip clubs (with sex on site) are the best way to go? Are they similar to FKK clubs or go-go bars? I usually try to stay away from strip clubs for mongering because it's the easiest place to get robbed or scammed. The old "$200 drink" scam or something similar. Does this not happen here?

Back to the hobbyist.

I used Mamba. Ru back then, to hunt for a part-time escort girls. It was pretty effective and lots of fun before the Pandemic.

Does anyone recently visit Moscow, using similar tool. Mamba. Ru to get scores?

Mamba. Ru now asks to verify your photo with a real photo.

If you don't verify, you can't even message hot girls who verified their photos.

This is pretty annoying but I hope there should be some trick.

Share yours with me, then I will help with my knowledge as well.

This is very annoying. Mamba now requires the user to verify their photo with a specific posture.

If you don't verify, you can't even talk to a girl who verified their photos.

Any ideas?

Hi dudes,

I am planning a trip to Moscow. Already tried the strip clubs, the massage parlors. I wish to find a real club with girls who are here for that. Any tips at this end of 2021? The world is spinning and the clubbing scene as well.

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2629329]Hi dudes,

I am planning a trip to Moscow. Already tried the strip clubs, the massage parlors. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Strip clubs, massage parlors are easy to find.

They are mostly official establishments. That said, they try to play by the law: no penetration, no sex. Well at least in theory. Penthouse for example is right at New Arbat, shining like fcking Vegas.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2629329]Hi dudes,I wish to find a real club with girls who are here for that.[/QUOTE]For "that" you mean good old "sex"? If yes: In Russia this kind of venue is called "salon". They are mostly not official establishments. That said, they try to keep a low profile (which makes them not so easy to find, specially if you don't speak Russian). Some are located backyards, old houses in suburb (or sometimes in saunas but this is now more rare).

Such salons are more pragmatic but they come and go very fast; this fluctuation is because of the cops (Russians call them musor). St. Petersburg has more saloni than Moscow.

I personally have nothing against strip clubs, but I prefer saloni for practical reasons as I have lack of time and cash.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2633313]Strip clubs, massage parlors are easy to find.

They are mostly official establishments. That said, they try to play by the law: no penetration, no sex. Well at least in theory. Penthouse for example is right at New Arbat, shining like fcking Vegas.

.[/QUOTE]Sorry but this is just wrong. Penthouse, the Loft, Aurora, and Angels are all designed straight up for sex and penetration. Not in the club of course but they have attached hotel and you pay the bar fine to take the girl to the hotel. At Aurora and Angels they actually have the waitress carry your drinks to the room and there is no checkin as it's all one thing. Penthouse you leave the club go downstairs and checkin to the hotel where the girls meet you.

Not cheap. Expect to pay R18000 for the girl and barfine. But super excellent experience. I have posted on this before if you search for Aurora or Penthouse.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2633313]Strip clubs, massage parlors are easy to find.

They are mostly official establishments. That said, they try to play by the law: no penetration, no sex. Well at least in theory. Penthouse for example is right at New Arbat, shining like fcking Vegas.

For "that" you mean good old "sex"? If yes: In Russia this kind of venue is called "salon". They are mostly not official establishments. That said, they try to keep a low profile (which makes them not so easy to find, specially if you don't speak Russian). Some are located backyards, old houses in suburb (or sometimes in saunas but this is now more rare).

Such salons are more pragmatic but they come and go very fast; this fluctuation is because of the cops (Russians call them musor). St. Petersburg has more saloni than Moscow.

I personally have nothing against strip clubs, but I prefer saloni for practical reasons as I have lack of time and cash.[/QUOTE]Grazie dottore. I was much more looking not at a salon but places like Night Flight or a normal disco where students or 30's girls are not against going out with someone for money. The only places I know are not affordable or are places where you cannot get in without a Rolex and a platinum.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2634932] are not against going out with someone for money.[/QUOTE]Well, as for me I don't want go nowhere with a pro or semi pro. Even for free, even if she is hot. Because I have GF, who expects a lot of my quality time.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2634932] places where you cannot get in without a Rolex and a platinum.[/QUOTE]Wow, they still practice those exaggerated face control for discos in Moscow? Even in times of omicron, inflation and sanctions? Very interesting. One more reason for me not to go there.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2633572]Sorry but this is just wrong. Penthouse, the Loft, Aurora, and Angels are all designed straight up for sex and penetration.[/QUOTE]Sounds cool. But for me 18 k is still a bit over my budget for p4 p, unfortunately, specially considering the fact that I don't drink and prefer to play during the afternoon of weekdays. Nah, I am not a nishchebrod, ha ha, just have other priorities for now. Still a monger thou. I guess. But one without Rolex and platinum.

I don't need a hotel, I don't need a bottle of whiskey nor a private dance.

But if somebody know a good salon, where their only (or at least main) product is the good old sex, please post here, I will got there with pleasure.

I have travelled to Moscow a few times but resisted the allure of the clubs until now because the price seemed to be rather high. This time, maybe because of Covid or because of a general clean up that seems to be in progress I bit the bullet and tried out Aurora, Hunters and Angels over a period of 10 days.

All three (and I assume others in the group) are clones of each other. 2000 R entry, coat check and somewhat bored looking hostesses. All three clubs were fairly empty, once again probably because of Covid. 25-odd girls, they take turns to do a strip show and then come to all the patrons one by one to grind on you for a few minutes. You can stick a few hundred in their garter if you like, you can also turn them away (though I think no reason to not partake). Most girls proposition you for a private dance, I am not sure what that entails as I did not accept. There are some food and drinks available at high prices, I tried a few things but would not recommend as all was sub par quality.

Sex if you want is 14000 R for the girl and 6000 for the room, I believe it has gone up from previous rates. The waitresses are topless and can also be taken to the room. The hostesses wear gowns, ditto for them. If you want to take a girl out of the club you pay some ridiculous amount like 15000 or 30000 R. All places have a hotel adjacent or on the upper floors, rooms are OK enough though I found Aurora to be a little older and seedier than the others and Hunters to be the nicest. On all three occasions I found the girls to be very, very well trained, they all had absolutely great attitude and seemed to be clearly instructed to achieve a very high satisfaction level both in the sex as well as in the pre and post talk. On two occasions the girls did not want to any kissing, third one lots. On two occasions the girls without insistence did some crazy ball licking, third occasion not. Overall service was super, with many similarities that showed good training of the girls but still some variations.

All three girls spoke English and engaged in a lot of talk before, during and after- once again it seemed that they made this part of the overall experience.

I think this overall experience is great, it is debatable whether it is worth the high price of 20000 R minimum or more if you take a few extras. The girls are very pretty and frankly, there is nothing to complain about. Maybe this is why I am not 100% sure whether I would repeat often, because it is too much like a "formula" that is applied every time and there is a little less excitement than some other mongering opportunities. Still, nothing to beat the sheer convenience and quality.

[QUOTE=CuttySark;2640310]

Sex if you want is 14000 R for the girl and 6000 for the room, I believe it has gone up from previous rates. The waitresses are topless and can also be taken to the room. The hostesses wear gowns, ditto for them. If you want to take a girl out of the club you pay some ridiculous amount like 15000 or 30000 R. All places have a hotel adjacent or on the upper floors, rooms are OK enough though I found Aurora to be a little older and seedier than the others and Hunters to be the nicest. On all three occasions I found the girls to be very, very well trained, they all had absolutely great attitude and seemed to be clearly instructed to achieve a very high satisfaction level both in the sex as well as in the pre and post talk. On two occasions the girls did not want to any kissing, third one lots. On two occasions the girls without insistence did some crazy ball licking, third occasion not. Overall service was super, with many similarities that showed good training of the girls but still some variations.

[/QUOTE]So, 2000 entry + 14000 are for the girl + 6000 for the room = 22000 Rubles or around $300 minimum for a session. Not including tips for the dances and drinks. How long were these sessions? A flat hour or a few hours with a couple pops?

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2640369]So, 2000 entry + 14000 are for the girl + 6000 for the room = 22000 Rubles or around $300 minimum for a session. Not including tips for the dances and drinks. How long were these sessions? A flat hour or a few hours with a couple pops?[/QUOTE]Flat hour. The management calls the room after 1 hour and asks that the girl and you clear out. Though on all occasions, the girls were not in a hurry and utilized the full hour.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2635364]But if somebody know a good salon, where their only (or at least main) product is the good old sex, please post here, I will got there with pleasure.[/QUOTE]You will need good Russian skills to navigate to such salons as they have discreet entrances and it can get challenging to access these doors / gates without proper communication skills. You can take the help of taxi driver to get there though who are mostly central Asians.

Was in Moscow for 5 days back in October 21. Stayed in 5-star hotel on Tverskaya. Plan was to visit salons choose from a line up. In these days texted about 20 Salons and Indy's (in Russian) but mostly got no reply. Started to wonder why so many ads on rusdosug etc if the women aren't responding. If there was a reply they send pics of girls who look nothing like the ads and not worth it for the prices quoted which are around 8000/ hour straight sex. Extras cost more. Did go to one apartment near Arbat, on the phone she lied and said 5 young girls available. But when I turned up just one skinny Stan girl only skin and bones looking unhealthy so didn't do any business.

Moscow didn't live up to p4 p expectations. Thankfully had made contact with a classy MILF age in her 30's prior to my arrival. Non-pro woman with a normal job. She picked me up at the airport, showed me around the city, stayed with me about 3 nights so got enough bedroom action with her. BBBJ, anal, CIM the lot all freebie (well, I paid for all her meals and drinks). Even went to her house outside Moscow and fucked her ass off whilst her teen daughter was upstairs and could probably hear mummy being fucked senseless. That was satisfying. It was only when she was at work I tried to p4 p for variety but no luck.

Left Moscow for SP by myself. A bit better for p4 p but not much (see my SP report).

Returned to Moscow to fly back. But had a date with a girl 20 years younger which went well. Cancelled flight stayed a few more days with new girl. 8 hours non-stop sex first night with whisky and room service. Loads more sex next two nights. BBBJ, CIM, uncovered anal. Free. Yes I took her to top restaurants and bars. Satisfying to get this from a local non-pro in her mid 20's.

MILF worked out I was seeing someone else and went crazy on the phone. Do I give a fuck? No! As if these women don’t use men every day for free meals and social life going around having dozens of dates. Refused to meet the MILF in case she goes ballistic in public. Well, what can you do but manage the situation!

So p4 p didn't work for me in Moscow but was lucky to get two locals for free. Nice city but too cold for me this time of year.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2657511]Thankfully had made contact with a classy MILF age in her 30's prior to my arrival. Non-pro woman with a normal job. She picked me up at the airport, showed me around the city, stayed with me about 3 nights so got enough bedroom action with her. BBBJ, anal, CIM the lot all freebie (well, I paid for all her meals and drinks). Even went to her house outside Moscow and fucked her ass off whilst her teen daughter was upstairs and could probably hear mummy being fucked senseless. That was satisfying. It was only when she was at work I tried to p4 p for variety but no luck.[/QUOTE]That is very interesting, how did you found her?

[QUOTE=AluHut;2657525]That is very interesting, how did you found her?[/QUOTE]Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.

The recommendations I can make are:

- Spend time to get to know who writes. There a mix between agencies, independent escort, serious women (looking for husband) and easygoing girls (with support).

The border between escort and girl with support is tiny but clearly exists on Mamba.

- Escort: not a big deal, from 8 K rbls per hour to 50 K, it is a market place where you find what you want.

- Easy-going girl with support: AMOF Russian women like being treated like Princess. They like beautiful places, champagne, good dinner, flowers. If you give this, you will get hot sex in return. But sometimes it is borderline as the same easy going girl will ask 15 K rbl for a dinner with you. She is not an escort but she likes to meet with sugar daddy who will invite AND give her money to buy things. Do not treat her as an escort, or be ready to forget the after dinner part.

If others have other opinion, interesting to cross.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2658012]Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.[/QUOTE]I haven't used it in ages, but I remember it was quite a trash place where you had to spend hours, or even days to find someone real. Is it still the case? Also, do you communicate in English? I speak quite decent Russian, but my gut feeling tells me I will get better results but not trying to pretend as local.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2657525]That is very interesting, how did you found her?[/QUOTE]Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2658546]Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.[/QUOTE]LOL, some things never change. You got really lucky with her, too bad she reacted like this.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2658546]Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.[/QUOTE]I the like to second Rugga. I extensively used mamba and tinder and came to the same conclusion. The worst gold diggers are on tinder and mamba. (Same in Ukraine). These two apps attract all the scammers as well. This means that some women look like pros according to their photos but it does not mean they actually fuck. They want your money and they don't want to do anything in return. Tinder has been marketed by some US media as a casual sex app. This is BS. This is just a manipulation. You don't know who hides behind these girls. I think that the women of tinder and Mamba are even worse than the gold diggers you find in night clubs of Moscow. In general, all the predators are online. This means, asexual women who want to make money out of men but will never have sex. Lesbian women also who pretend to have sex with you and total psychotic women as well. They all have something in common. They are all sexually deceptive. They make you believe that you are going to have sex and in the end, you get nothing. Also, don't believe you are going to meet a semi pro on these apps. Today, I think that the best Russian women never join Tinder and Mamba. That's it.

Don't be lured by photos on Tinder and Mamba. You are going to waste your time and money. Forget it.

Guys don't waste your time with these apps. Visit websites where you can find pros in Russian, agencies, and places where you can find prostitutes (nightclubs, bars, restaurants):

Example: a restaurant in Moscow with prostitutes:

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserReviews-g298484-d2405766-r358908435-Night_Flight-Moscow_Central_Russia.html[/URL]

For your information, I met women who were on mamba in the local population. I understood that you find on tinder and mamba all the women that nobody wants to fuck. It is plain and simple. By the way, I think the problem is worldwide with Tinder. I think this app is incredibly overrated and I think it is a scam.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2658745]Example: a restaurant in Moscow with prostitutes:

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserReviews-g298484-d2405766-r358908435-Night_Flight-Moscow_Central_Russia.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Russian reviews are hilarious, thanks I had a good laugh.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2658012]Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.

The recommendations I can make are:

- Spend time to get to know who writes. There a mix between agencies, independent escort, serious women (looking for husband) and easygoing girls (with support).

The border between escort and girl with support is tiny but clearly exists on Mamba.

- Escort: not a big deal, from 8 K rbls per hour to 50 K, it is a market place where you find what you want.

- Easy-going girl with support: AMOF Russian women like being treated like Princess. They like beautiful places, champagne, good dinner, flowers. If you give this, you will get hot sex in return. But sometimes it is borderline as the same easy going girl will ask 15 K rbl for a dinner with you. She is not an escort but she likes to meet with sugar daddy who will invite AND give her money to buy things. Do not treat her as an escort, or be ready to forget the after dinner part..[/QUOTE]Yes all this is true. I would like to add that the Russian men only treat women like princess till the women reach 30. In Russia women is considered old after 30 and the local men just upgrade and get new 'devoshka', also after this age the ladies enter the international dating / scam market wherein some are looking for long term but most are looking to extract revenge for previous failed relationships. My friend lost thousands of dollars to multiple ladies on sites such as pay per letter scam sites, fake meetings based in high end restaurants, money for visa & passport for a meeting that never materializes, green-card girls and so on. Rich Russian guys have single wife but couple of mistresses, few escorts and few sugar babies on rotation in month and this is the model they have suggested me to go forward with if you are in Russia for prolong periods of time.

Just FYI. It's either "devushka" (young woman) or "devochka" (literally small girl, but used colloquially for young female lovers, or as affectionate).

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2659423]Yes all this is true. I would like to add that the Russian men only treat women like princess till the women reach 30. In Russia women is considered old after 30 and the local men just upgrade and get new 'devoshka', also after this age the ladies enter the international dating / scam market wherein some are looking for long term but most are looking to extract revenge for previous failed relationships. My friend lost thousands of dollars to multiple ladies on sites such as pay per letter scam sites, fake meetings based in high end restaurants, money for visa & passport for a meeting that never materializes, green-card girls and so on. Rich Russian guys have single wife but couple of mistresses, few escorts and few sugar babies on rotation in month and this is the model they have suggested me to go forward with if you are in Russia for prolong periods of time.[/QUOTE]I want to second you. After 30 years old, former pros join tinder, mamba, a camgirl website or a dating agency. They claim they worked as a makeup artist and travelled the world. They claimed they studied finance, management, medicine. The profile of these Russian scammers is always the same. The goal is to find a nice blue pilled simp who will accept to financially support her. I have also noticed that Rich Russian guys had several mistresses. However, I have never noticed that they behaved like sugar daddies. Those girls are only pros. They accept sex in exchange for money. Once you get out of this scheme, you take the risk of being scams because in Eastern Europe, there are also many fake escorts. These women behave like escorts, they get dressed like escorts but they never have sex. They just want the man to pay. Thus, you must be very straight forward with Russian woman. If you get into chit chat and sentimental relationship you take the risk of being scammed.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2657511]Plan was to visit salons choose from a line up. In these days texted about 20 Salons and Indy's (in Russian) but mostly got no reply. Started to wonder why so many ads on rusdosug etc if the women aren't responding.[/QUOTE]I also ask myself why to bother in setting up an ad in such site, if you don't pick the phone and don't reply to sms. Either 1-she has found a sugar dad / boyfriend who is consuming all of her time, or 2- she changed the profession and left the ad there. Well, the 3rd possibility would be something liker she got caught by undercover cop playing the client and they confiscated her phone (where she used to answer calls / messages), but I guess it's rather one of the first 2 options. Nothing against you dorogaya, be happy, but maybe you could delete your ad and phone number from the directory. The mongers thank you.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2660734]I want to second you. After 30 years old, former pros join tinder, mamba, a camgirl website or a dating agency. They claim they worked as a makeup artist and travelled the world. They claimed they studied finance, management, medicine. The profile of these Russian scammers is always the same. The goal is to find a nice blue pilled simp who will accept to financially support her. I have also noticed that Rich Russian guys had several mistresses. However, I have never noticed that they behaved like sugar daddies. Those girls are only pros. They accept sex in exchange for money. Once you get out of this scheme, you take the risk of being scams because in Eastern Europe, there are also many fake escorts. These women behave like escorts, they get dressed like escorts but they never have sex. They just want the man to pay. Thus, you must be very straight forward with Russian woman. If you get into chit chat and sentimental relationship you take the risk of being scammed.[/QUOTE]And permit me to second YOU HD. Very well explained. If you think about it, agreeing to have sex for money is pretty straight forward. But to string a man along and slowly extract money from him in the form of gifts, expensive dinners, cash and travel WITHOUT sex in exchange, that takes a bit of talent!!

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2662329]I also ask myself why to bother in setting up an ad in such site, if you don't pick the phone and don't reply to sms. Either 1-she has found a sugar dad / boyfriend who is consuming all of her time, or 2- she changed the profession and left the ad there. Well, the 3rd possibility would be something liker she got caught by undercover cop playing the client and they confiscated her phone (where she used to answer calls / messages), but I guess it's rather one of the first 2 options. Nothing against you dorogaya, be happy, but maybe you could delete your ad and phone number from the directory. The mongers thank you.[/QUOTE]There are lot of fake ads on the various sites due to the following reasons- some of the independent ladies only meet with high value Slavic men who speak Russian fluently and who would support them on monthly basis so as soon as they find couple of men the number goes silent for few months. Also some Russian women hire small time detectives to catch their cheating partners who in turn place ads on these sites so that they can trace the phone number of these men if they had called earlier to book any of escorts / service providers. Local men tend to avoid this by buying sim from local central Asian flea market.

Corruption is rife in most cities in Russia and local police take commission from local salon / bordellos on daily / weekly basis. It is not uncommon to see police car stationed few hundred meters from salon / bordello to monitor the customers from that place. Police do indeed target such salons after receiving complaints from locals but only after informing the salon owners and the girls. They also post ads to look for known criminals who use this kind of services as some ladies ask for face calls before meetings. There are also software marketers who post these ads on telegram groups and other online sites who work on monthly contract but fail to update the number even though the number stopped working few weeks ago.

Some years ago, I used to meet pros and semi pros in the nightclubs of Moscow. I had to spend a significant amount of money going out. Then, during the covid19, I extensively used camgirl websites. I collected instagram and whatsapp accounts of Russian camgirls.

Advantages:

= What you see is what you get. No photoshopped pictures.

= You find fresh semi pros or non pros. This is very exciting.

= You can choose your type.

= you can chat with her beforehand.

Disadvantages:

= This is the most expensive solution to find escorts because you must pay before you meet the woman. First you may pay during a private chat session or several chat session, you may pay to obtain the whatsapp or instagram of the model.

= Because of the international market, There is a tendency for camgirls to ask for high prices when it is time to meet in the real world.

= Camgirl may live far away from Moscow. Russia is a big country. You would have to pay her the trip to Moscow. Once again, a new expense!

My try:

Met a camgirl online, She sold her whatsapp for 80 euros. I spent 100 euros in chat. I had to pay for the trip to Moscow. I don't remember how much I paid. Then, we met at an AirBNB in Moscow, covered Blowjob. Doggystyle. It was ok. It cost me 150 euros which is the gringo price not the local price.

Conclusion:

Meeting Camgirls isn't the best solution. This leads to many expenses for an uncertain outcome. Conversely, if you find a semi pros in a nightclub or a restaurant, which will be possible after the covid19, you will be able to save a substantial amount of money while being able to chat with the woman beforehand.

Advice if you choose this technique:

Please guys don't mention any names of any camgirl website on internationalsexguide so that our activities remain unnoticed by the camgirl websites. Share this message to other guys in case you decide to share your review about it.

Don't chit chat online, be straightforward. If you speak Russian, ask for a mongering offer via audio. If you don't speak Russian, use google translate and copy paste your offer in Russian. Don't say "I want sex against money" in the private chat session because someone from the website can read this.

Give her a hint during a chat. Tell her something like:

We could have fun in real life against a gift.

Don't mention any price. I discover I was tempted to offer an above market offer.

If you must create an instagram, snapshat, don't be dumb don't share your real name in the nickname.

Thanks for the insights.

I just wonder how can she knows if I or other monger is a high value Slavic sugar man who speaks Russian fluently if she 1-does not pick the phone and 2-does not read the sms (which was written in perfect Russian)? My second phone (where I deal with WGs has no avatar photo, and my messengers there don't have profile photo either). For the record: I don't want be a sugar person, I just want fun and then goodbye. No strings attached. Just my opinion as I know a Russian guy who in deed has a soderzhanka on the side, and seems to be happy with that, and according to him she does not have other men.

About corruption, yes I also heard about that, actually it's impossible for the police for not knowing the salonis in Peter for example, as the city in full of them. In Moscow it's a different story, they are more hidden from the public eye, it looks there is still some kind of fear of law enforcement, but I am talking about old school sex salonis with girls v ocheredi, not gentlemen strip clubs.

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2662658] There are also software marketers who post these ads on telegram groups and other online sites who work on monthly contract but fail to update the number even though the number stopped working few weeks ago.[/QUOTE]Yes, some of the numbers seem to be just dead. It's not a question of her picking up or not.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2663766]
My try:

Met a camgirl online, She sold her whatsapp for 80 euros. I spent 100 euros in chat. I had to pay for the trip to Moscow. I don't remember how much I paid. Then, we met at an AirBNB in Moscow, covered Blowjob. Doggystyle. It was ok. It cost me 150 euros which is the gringo price not the local price.
[/QUOTE]Good post. Although I'm amazed that she came there, could have just kept the money she already got. I wonder if this financial question or about being raised to be honest, to be obliged to fulfill one's own words in agreements? I ask this because I would like to learn if Russian women trustworthy in this regard. Mamba girls for example.

Expect a low success rate = 5%.

In send a private message, I start in English, I start speaking about porn and then I switch to Russia and make a suggestion. I do this so that if a third party reads the chat without understanding Russian, he will think we speak about something else by reading the sentences in English.

It is very difficult to formulate. You must avoid speaking about money but she must understand you.

So, at the beginning, I said I am looking for a woman who would like to accompany me and have fun. I'd pay for this service. Still, I am not satisfied with this technique. When the woman said no, I always left my social media account that matched with her.

For instance, if she said no, I answered:

Thank you I don't bother you anymore, if you change your mind, my instagram / snapshat / telegram is.

Sometimes camgirls sell their snap, instagram, whatsapp. You can buy a social media account but then, it could be a pure sunk cost if after sending a PM on a social media, the woman say no, I m not interested in escorting.

Also some women work for a studio, they can't say they are interested because they are monitored.

Then, we should share either instagram, snap. Or a phone number for telegram or whatsapp. When you are on instagram, snap, telegram, whatsapp you can be straightforward; not before. Except twitter, no social media accounts are managed by a studio of a camgirl. Studios don't invest into smartphones and phone number.

The disadvantages of the technique:

I I think it is very important to make her understand that she will benefit from the deal. If you don't speak about money, they would be no benefits. She may tell you she is not interested because she does not see any benefit.

Advice:

Be as precise as you can, mention that you live in a neighborhood of Moscow, and look for company to make her understand that it is possible.

I am sorry it is a work in progress.

[QUOTE=Desin;2664031]Good post. Although I'm amazed that she came there, could have just kept the money she already got. I wonder if this financial question or about being raised to be honest, to be obliged to fulfill one's own words in agreements? I ask this because I would like to learn if Russian women trustworthy in this regard. Mamba girls for example.[/QUOTE]Trust is a big issue in Russia.

I didn't pay everything upfront, I paid equivalent of 75 euros first and then 75 euros upon arrival. But still you are right I could have lost 75 euros. But in general this is the same on camgirl websites. You can spend a lot of money without getting anything in return.

To me the Mamba girls are the least trustworthy women in Russia. You find on this website, lazy women who want to make money by doing nothing. They look for a sugar daddy relationship in which they will give nothing in return. On camgirl websites, at least, they perform sex shows. They do something.

I think that in Russia all scammers are on Tinder and Mamba. I call them the fake pros. The fake prostitutes. Fake prostitutes wear fit dresses, they have big lips, they have a lot of makeup but they do nothing. They refuse to escort men and you must be extremely careful. These women claim that they are pros, they conn you into paying first. Then, you get nothing in return.

On mamba, you find the woman who want to go to the restaurant for free. The psychologically twisted women that nobody wants to date. The undercover lesbians. The most common one, the women who are looking for a financial provider coming from a western country. It is now the same on tinder.

Mamba and Tinder are overrated. They are scams to me.

I have collected contacts in Mamba, but the difference is that the women you describe are the ones I avoid. I don't like their looks.

That method of yours considering camgirls is nice. Do you specifically target new girls, or more seasoned ones?

[QUOTE=Desin;2664527]I have collected contacts in Mamba, but the difference is that the women you describe are the ones I avoid. I don't like their looks.

That method of yours considering camgirls is nice. Do you specifically target new girls, or more seasoned ones?[/QUOTE]There are no rules from this point of view. You can really be surprised. For instance, an experienced camgirl may be totally reluctant to meet you while a fresh 20-year old is very motivated.

Apart from this, I have several things to say about camgirls and especially social medias.

I think that Instagram, Telegram and snapshat are gold mines. Twitter isn't because when a camgirl works for a studio, her twitter account is managed by the studio. Facebook is packed with fake pros or men who impersonate women, stay away from facebook. No pros are on Vk as well.

The social medias of the first group allows you to send private messages without risks. These social medias maximize your chances of success let me explain you why. They are all linked to the smartphone phone number of a girl. The smartphone is a personal thing. So, you can be sure that nobody else will read your messages. With hindsight, I tell myself that we should not be too pushy when we chat on camgirl websites. Employees these camgirl websites can read us. They could stop accepting people to exchange instagram, close your account, suspend the camgirl account, remove the link to an instagram account. Also, the least you chat on camgirl websites and the cheaper it costs you. Some websites allow you to send a PM to the camgirl on the website against a tip. So, then, you can get her instagram and then, from the instagram, you make your offer.

For your information, I have two phones. One for kinky things with instagram, snapshat account with pros with and one for official things. I just found it handy. By the way, the suggestions on instagram are maybe a gold mine too. However, Most of these women have private profiles and they must accept your friend request first.

So, once you are on her list and once you can send her a message, that's it, you can make her a detailed offer. I have several things to add about it. Camgirls are not like regular pros. They are often paranoid. So, you may likely need to meet her in a neutral place like a mall or a coffee shop first. Suggest to meet her in a coffee shop or a mall first because she may never met a customer before in real life. On Russian websites, some liars tell scammer stories or horror stories to Russian girls and you should make her feel comfortable.

So, you should not chit chat. Personally I am always polite on instagram in a PM, I say thing like: "Hello, I hope you had a nice day" and then I go straight to the point because I know these women need work. Usually, these women don't make an offer. So don't burn your wings, be aware of the prices. If she does not want, did you suggest to meet in a neutral place first? Tell her that you don't want to bother her everything would be find, that she would be paid on the spot.

Some girls don't live in Moscow. They may live around Moscow or further. It is always easier to visit them than visiting you. However, I always check one thing for safety matter. I always check if the camgirl has a boyfriend or husband. If she has one, I stay away from it because I know that Russian couples are the first to mastermind a plan to scam you. In general, I check if there are other people out of sight who interact with the camgirl. If there are it is a big no because it could be a trap. So, for instance, I check if I can see the hands of the camgirl when she types because somebody out of sight may chat with you while the camgirl is doing her show.

It is quite easy to stay away from toxic people because you can assess the situation before meeting the girl. Also, you can stop communicating with a girl whenever you want.

I like the fact that unlike regular pros from classified ads, you are never face a fait accompli. Let me explain. When you visit a pro staying in a hotel room, you may not have seen her before. You don't know her at all. You don't know what she thinks what she agrees to do. With camgirls you can chat with her beforehand.

To me it is still a work in progress.

I want to continue this thread because I have a lot of things to say. Some times ago, I found a blog where they described how to get in touch with camgirls for little money. I will try to find the link and post it again.

Experienced camgirls vs non experienced camgirls: Some young camgirls sound very greedy and arrogant, they may ask you for more money than experienced camgirls.

I don't think it is a good thing to talk about your offer on a cam website. It is always better to talk about it once you interact with her on a social media. There are many reasons why a camgirl will not tell you that she agrees on sex against money during a cam show on a camgirl website. Their chatrooms can be monitored by 1/ studio employees and 2/ website employees (possibly via team viewer). She does not want to take the risk of losing her camgirl job because this is her revenue. Explain your offer once you are on a social media.

Also, some camgirl websites retain text messages for a long time.

Don't believe in their rich lifestyle:

Some camgirls pretend they make a lot of money. In fact, they get a small commission of their work. Don't forget that when you tip a camgirl, a part of it goes to tax, a part of it may go to a studio, a part of it goes to the website, The remaining share is paid to the camgirl. I have been able to assess the purchasing power of these camgirls. First around Moscow, the rentals are not so high. They always live in small studios. They have few furniture.

Making an offer:

Since these women aren't pro, you must make an offer. It is important not to spoil the woman. I made this mistake. I overpaid.

So, I suggest you to visit the local websites for locals in Russian. You will see.

[URL]https://msk17.dosug-gid.net/f/cena_za_chas_ot=1000[/URL], cena_za_chas__do=7000/.

[URL]http://w.intim-city.nl/[/URL]

Don't expect the woman to take any decision, have a plan in mind. For instance, if she lives in a remote town around Moscow. You may need to visit her or she must visit you. So, don't ask her which option she wants. If you prefer to see her in Moscow, pay for the train. That's it. Let's sum up, you should have a plan in place. You must know how you will meet her, you know how much time you will spend with her. You will tell her what you want from her. You know how much money you want to give her. Beforehand, tell her your plan in details so that she just has to say yes or no. If she says no, you can ask her why. And then, you can modify your plan. The payment method should be part of your plan. Bitcoin is the best because it requires the smallest number of administrative tasks. I already paid a girl via western union online but there were a lot of painful tasks to do. One of my credit card was denied several times. With Webmoney, they monitor you and it is a really bad idea. I never used Yandex money though. I think that online payments are a great trap because they conn you into thinking that they provide the easiest way to pay. Then, they freeze your payment and they ask you to provide supporting documents. This is an issue that I never had with Western Union and moneygram.

So for instance, a woman was ok to meet me. She didn't want to have sex with me. She didn't want any penetration. I told her that she could give me a blowjob for a smaller price.

It is important to bring her all guarantees that everything is safe for her.

Convince her:

I have learned to decode what women told me. If a woman told me: "it is not going to happen" "it will not happen". You can answer have a nice day. There will be nothing you will be able to do.

In the contrary, if she says: "I don't meet people from here". This is another story. This means she may work as a pro in the real world.

I never use the word prostitute or escort when I communicate with a woman.

In fact, I use the following arguments to convince her (you don't need to use all of them, they work depending on the situation).

= if she would have to move to Germany, Duba or Thailand to make money in a club, she would have to leave far away from her home city.

= God knows what type of problems she can face in a foreign country in a club.

= She will get 100% of the money while she usually has to pay huge commissions to third partiers like studios or websites or escort agency.

= If she has any question, if she wants to know me better, I tell her than she can talk to me.

= pay a down payment to her. I paid until now, half of the money, but I think that it could be too much. Maybe it would be better to pay 1 third when you schedule the meeting, 1 third just before the meeting, 1 third when you meet via your smartphone. Camgirls asked me to pay via Bitcoins and western unions.

= If she is concerned about her reputation, tell her that you are a foreigner, you don't know anybody in Russia.

= Nobody will know. On the other hand, if she would work as a pornstar, everybody would know.

Shy women:

Shy women prefer to meet you in a neutral place first and then, they will agree to meet you in a hotel room or in your apartment.

You need more time to trust women:

It is slightly more expensive but before meeting a woman, I had a snapshat conversation with her. If you do this, you will be able to identify the scammers and the good girls.

I like the way you put yourself into this.

At which point do you mention the amount of money you are willing to pay for a meeting?

[QUOTE=Desin;2665176]I like the way you put yourself into this.

At which point do you mention the amount of money you are willing to pay for a meeting?[/QUOTE]Once you are subscribed to her Instagram, snapchat, telegram. It is the time to send your price offer.

I discourage people to send a price offer on a camgirl website because the camgirl knows somebody else can read this price offer. For instance an employee of a camgirl website or a studio employee can read the private messages exchanged between a camgirl and a user. On the other hand, the private messages of Instagram, snap are safe.

I want to add something. The pictures of a camgirl shared on her instagram account also helps to see if she is a good option or not. For example, I saw that a woman shared picture where she flirted with another woman. I think she was an undercover lesbo. So, I unsubscribe. When I feel that something is wrong with a woman, I also take her out from my instagram account. Look for quality not quantity.

Some Russian women are from Siberia. It is worst buying them a flight ticket to Moscow.

So, because of the war in Ukraine, I guess that no one will post here for some time.

In a past thread, I promised I would provide a link to a blog article with camgirl websites that allow you to buy or get the instagram, snap, whatsapp of a camgirl.

Here we go:

[URL]https://venusa.day/social-media-camgirl-account/[/URL]

I'd like to add something, there is nothing better than an email address to exchange private information. So, if you make an offer to a camgirl on Instagram, also provide a disposable email address in the message.

Here is the full process:

Get the social media from the camgirl = you send her the offer on the social media = she answers you yes or no = if she says no: you end the message by saying: "OK, bb if you change your mind send me a message here (email)."

Emails are really great because it is better than a notification.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2670345]So, because of the war in Ukraine, I guess that no one will post here for some time.

In a past thread, I promised I would provide a link to a blog article with camgirl websites that allow you to buy or get the instagram, snap, whatsapp of a camgirl.

Here we go:

[URL]https://venusa.day/social-media-camgirl-account/[/URL]

I'd like to add something, there is nothing better than an email address to exchange private information. So, if you make an offer to a camgirl on Instagram, also provide a disposable email address in the message.

Here is the full process:

Get the social media from the camgirl = you send her the offer on the social media = she answers you yes or no = if she says no: you end the message by saying: "OK, bb if you change your mind send me a message here (email).".[/QUOTE]Are the Moscow strip clubs all open? Any price changes yet?

The night flight club is permanently closed.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2658745]Guys don't waste your time with these apps. Visit websites where you can find pros in Russian, agencies, and places where you can find prostitutes (nightclubs, bars, restaurants):

Example: a restaurant in Moscow with prostitutes:

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserReviews-g298484-d2405766-r358908435-Night_Flight-Moscow_Central_Russia.html[/URL]

For your information, I met women who were on mamba in the local population. I understood that you find on tinder and mamba all the women that nobody wants to fuck. It is plain and simple. By the way, I think the problem is worldwide with Tinder. I think this app is incredibly overrated and I think it is a scam.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WadPro;2675173]The night flight club is permanently closed.[/QUOTE]Why is it closed? How about Aorora?

Firstly, I visited 6-strip network (Loft, Hunters, Penthouse, Aurora, Notch, Angels) at my first two nights. There are some common things about these clubs.

First, all girls are dancing fully naked contrary to the strip clubs in Ukraine. All the girls have shaved pussy, I wish there were some girls with a little hairy pussy by the way.

Second, private dance is 3.000 rubles, it includes only 1 song, but if you wait for a parade show when all the girls come together on the stage you can have private dance for 2 songs for the same price.

Third, having sex with girls is approximately 19.000-20.000 rubles including room fees. But you should bargain whether the girl will accept condomless blowjob, some girls never accept it whereas some others do it for extra money.

Most of the girls are rotating between the clubs, so sometimes the location of the beautiful girls might change night by night.

Saturday nights are horrible, every club is crowd on Saturdays. Try to go to the clubs weekdays.

Let me give you some brief info about these clubs.

Loft: Crowded with mostly local customers and the girls were average. I left after 1 hour without having a private dance.

Hunters: It doesn't look like an ordinary strip club, it looks like a huge bar, it's very bright place not dark as a regular strip club. But I liked the design of the club, there's a Harley Davidson on the stage but it was also crowded with local guys, I had a private dance with a busty girl with natural tits, but I didn't have sex with her because she refused to give me condomless blowjob despite I offered extra money as tip.

Angels: Comparatively small club with 30 average girls approximately, I didn't take any girl and left after half an hour.

Aurora: I think it's the best club among the network clubs. I saw a very young blonde girl with charming face and cute nose. I invited her then had sex with her in three different positions. There was a shower in the room and I was very satisfied. Then I went to the notch.

Notch: There were maybe 40 girls, most of them were average and they were really pushy like vultures, I saw a few hot girls, then I took 2 girls at the same time and they did lesbo show for me in a hotel room upstairs, they kissed each other in the lips, then sucked their boobs and licked their pussies. It was like a live porn show. While I was sucking one girl's boobs, the other one was sucking my cock without condom. Then they gave me blowjob together, while one was licking my balls the other one was sucking my dick. They even tried to fist each other (my fantasy) by using some lubricant but they did it partially. I really liked it. Then I went back to the club, and after 2 hours and I took another girl to my hotel. After having sex with three girls, I was really tired and I could fuck her only once And she left the hotel as soon as I slept. My advice don't pay so much money ($500) to take the girl out, just fuck them in the club.

Penthouse: Mostly average girls but I saw two really beautiful girls and I had a private dance with her.

Zazhigalka is a low class place and not good for tourists. Private dance is cheaper (2.000) but I didn't like the environment. One more thing, when I said "Zazhigalka" to the taxi driver he offered me cigarette and lighter. I guess it means cigarette or lighter in Russian. Keep in mind that.

Golden Girls is an upscale place and the girls were mostly beautiful. Entrance is 6. 000 and it covers two private dances. I knew that they don't provide sex services like the 6-strip network clubs but the problem was the girls didn't even allow me to kiss their tits. I insisted on but she said "the rules" as soon as I heard this I said "I'm leaving" canceled the dance and left the club. And before leaving I asked them "how will you compete with the other clubs by not allowing customers to kiss tits whereas the other clubs offer sex. And I was the only customer in the club at 11 pm.

All my business trips to Russia have been cancelled again for obvious reasons.

Are there any foreigners there right now? How are you handling money given the restrictions on banking there?

Has anyone entered after the sanctions, and if so, what did you bring in terms of cold hard cash?

I will likely try to visit after the summer when things are more stable, but want to make preparations in the meantime.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2677021]All my business trips to Russia have been cancelled again for obvious reasons.

Are there any foreigners there right now? How are you handling money given the restrictions on banking there?

Has anyone entered after the sanctions, and if so, what did you bring in terms of cold hard cash?

I will likely try to visit after the summer when things are more stable, but want to make preparations in the meantime.[/QUOTE]I was in Moscow just a few days ago. I visited 8 strip clubs and 3 restaurants. I saw just a few foreigners like me during my 3-day trip.

Foreign credit cards do not work. So you have to bring cash (USD or EUR) then exchange it.

Hotels and restaurants never accept foreign currencies, but strip clubs do.

Duty free stores accept USD & EUR.

I heard that Russian cyberbank issues nameless debit cards for foreigners especially for those who don't want to go around with considerable amount of cash.

And if you run out of your money, there will be no chance to transfer money to Russia. Therefore, you should bring much more money than you expect to spend. The max amount you may bring is 10 K USD.

You need to bring the small white immigration paper with you when you go to an exchange office. Otherwise they exchange money up to $400 only.

[QUOTE=WadPro;2677614]I was in Moscow just a few days ago. I visited 8 strip clubs and 3 restaurants. I saw just a few foreigners like me during my 3-day trip.[/QUOTE]What is attitude toward Americans at this time in Moscow? Are we the enemy who is destroying the Russian economy or it's not a problem?

I'm curious because the US State Department is advising Americans not to go to Russia and if you are already there, leave immediately.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2678456]What is attitude toward Americans at this time in Moscow? Are we the enemy who is destroying the Russian economy or it's not a problem?

I'm curious because the US State Department is advising Americans not to go to Russia and if you are already there, leave immediately.[/QUOTE]Screw what the state department says! We just want to have sex with the finest Russian pussy whether in the strip clubs or salons. Putin did say they have the best hookers in the world remember?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2679292]Screw what the state department says! We just want to have sex with the finest Russian pussy whether in the strip clubs or salons. Putin did say they have the best hookers in the world remember?[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I'm not going to talk politics. I'm not going to start a revolution. I just want to spend time with a few very friendly barely legal blonde girls. My question is however: When people hear the American accent am I going to get hit on the head with a bottle of vodka? Or is everything still OK?

Looks like this will be an academic discussion, Lavrov is saying that Putin will close access to "unfriendly" countries. : (.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2679726]Looks like this will be an academic discussion, Lavrov is saying that Putin will close access to "unfriendly" countries.[/QUOTE]I'm living in Israel with dual Israeli / US citizenship. I think Israel may not be included as unfriendly, although, weirdly, we are banned at this time due to COVID. There are currently flights from Tel Aviv to Moscow via Istanbul with Turkish Airlines for normal prices.

I'd like to travel as soon as possible. Perhaps I can take advantage of the weak ruble. How are Muscovites treating Westerners especially Americans? As I understand it, before the war, there was a generally positive attitude.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2679830]I'm living in Israel with dual Israeli / US citizenship. I think Israel may not be included as unfriendly, although, weirdly, we are banned at this time due to COVID. There are currently flights from Tel Aviv to Moscow via Istanbul with Turkish Airlines for normal prices.

I'd like to travel as soon as possible. Perhaps I can take advantage of the weak ruble. How are Muscovites treating Westerners especially Americans? As I understand it, before the war, there was a generally positive attitude.[/QUOTE]I love Moscow, it was my favorite city in the world, but it is just not a good idea at the moment. Let things calm down then go.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2679854]I love Moscow, it was my favorite city in the world, but it is just not a good idea at the moment. Let things calm down then go.[/QUOTE]Things have calmed down if you really look at it.

I live in Moscow for now. I'm not American, but I look quite foreigner / Western.

There are different opinions. I asked a WG recently about her opinion about the current military operation (don't use the term "war" if you are in Russia, it can bring you legal problems), she said that she has relatives in Donbass. These have been terrorized by the Neonazis of the Azov Regiment for almost 8 tears, so she is 100% pro Z.

Last summer the New York Yankees caps were Very Popular in Russia. Trendy. Last week was sunny, so I went to a grocery store with the cap. The cashier looked at my cap and then noticed my accent (it was a issue with card), then she behaved unfriendly. I didn't understand why. Some days later I went to the same grocery store. This time wearing no cap, 100% she didn't remember me, when she asked for "Paket nuzhno" I just nicked. No sound from my mouth, her behavior was much better. If it's connected to the current political situation I don't know.

The US Embassy posted this waring:

"Do not travel to Russia due to the unprovoked and unjustified invasion of Ukraine by Russian military forces, the potential for harassment against USA Citizens by Russian government security officials, the singling out of USA Citizens in Russia by Russian government security officials including for detention, the arbitrary enforcement of local law, limited flights into and out of Russia, the Embassy's limited ability to assist USA Citizens in Russia, COVID-19 and related entry restrictions, and terrorism. USA Citizens residing or traveling in Russia should depart Russia immediately."

[URL]https://ru.usembassy.gov/travel-advisory-u-s-embassy-moscow-russia/[/URL]

The fact that the president's son (also a monger like us BTW) was 'allegedly' involved in financing biolabs in Ukraine, which could be used to produce bio weapons doesn't give the US a good name at the moment.

Does anyone know if you can enter Russia from the Latvian border without having problems regarding covid? I'm asking because as far as I know you can only enter by air but because of the special operation in Ukraine finding a flight directly from London is impossible.

[QUOTE=AlanXL;2680949]Does anyone know if you can enter Russia from the Latvian border without having problems regarding covid? I'm asking because as far as I know you can only enter by air but because of the special operation in Ukraine finding a flight directly from London is impossible.[/QUOTE]I can't answer your question, but I think due to the current situation with Ukraine, Covid seems to one least problem at the moment.

Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2680608]…The fact that the president's son (also a monger like us BTW) was 'allegedly' involved in financing biolabs in Ukraine, which could be used to produce bio weapons doesn't give the US a good name at the moment.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you've lived there too long. This is a Russian lie. This is Russian disinformation. This is Russian trash.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2680608]The fact that the president's son (also a monger like us BTW) was 'allegedly' involved in financing biolabs in Ukraine, which could be used to produce bio weapons doesn't give the US a good name at the moment.[/QUOTE]Better leave Russia before Hunter releases the bioweapons.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2681009]Perhaps you've lived there too long. This is a Russian lie. This is Russian disinformation. This is Russian trash.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you have been watching too much CNN and MSNBC.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2681399]Perhaps you have been watching too much CNN and MSNBC.[/QUOTE]Please provide evidence of US sponsored bio labs in Ukraine. There is none.

[QUOTE=AlanXL;2680949]Does anyone know if you can enter Russia from the Latvian border without having problems regarding covid? I'm asking because as far as I know you can only enter by air but because of the special operation in Ukraine finding a flight directly from London is impossible.[/QUOTE]This webpage should help.

[URL]https://tourism.gov.ru/en/contents/turistam/who-can-travel-to-russia-in-2021[/URL]

Must be dismal in Moscow with the economy about to collapse in ruins, dunno how you would change money or get a meal, with shelves empty ans that's before you get there overland;;aircraft have no insurance or cert o airworthyness so you risk your life flying by Russian planes.

I didn't understand what was the hype with sugar. I saw on western tv people hamster buying package of sugar last week (the same craze like the toilet paper under Covid lockdown). I think the last time I bough a package of sugar, hmm 2 or 3 years ago. Because my ex at that time wanted to bake me a cake. But she didn't use all the package. After that I moved to a new flat, where there was a full package of, well, sugar. If you use Russian Airbnb or similar services there are always some stuff the flats already have when you arrive: tea, sugar, salt. If you are lucky some old Nescafé from the previous guest. And it is still there in the kitchen standing tall. I hardly touch that, only when sometimes a guest or GF wants sugar to her coffee. My coffee or tea always without sugar. Other than I don't remember if I ever used that poison. Going back to the western narrative of empty shelf: This week the things calmed down (or it was a hoax right from the beginning). The sugar corner in the supermarket is calm again, like it used to be. Only some pensionerka babushka buying it. Shelves are full with sugar packages of different brands (local brands thou), no 'defitsit' like the Russians call it.

About leaving the country, nah, how can I leave these sexy gems here, specially now in time of need. It's like when Biden asked India to join the sanctions craze. Modi said, "What kind of friend would let the other friend down when that friend is in difficulties? We don't".

Biolabs, hmm I don't know if it's true, we will see. NY Post thinks it's true ([URL]https://nypost.com/2022/03/26/hunter-biden-played-role-in-funding-us-bio-labs-contractor-in-ukraine-e-mails/[/URL]). For the sake of all Western mongers in Russia I pray that it's Not true. Anyway the feds after already analyzing the "laptop from hell" not in connection with biological weapons, but in connection with tax fraud etc. Against Joe Biden himself (aka Big Guy) and his son. Hunter will be indicted soon (at least according to fox news).

Have a nice week guys!

Russia is still accessible by Turkey, Emirates, Serbian Air, Chinese. Visa is, of course, YMMV.

My problem or, rather, the non proverbial friend, is to get money out, not in to Russia. Though I have Chinese and Middle Eastern links to do that (with great trouble and huge commissions), does anyone know of a way to pass it to one of those countries before moving it on / collecting it.

This is for someone else, not for me, a family who needs the money.

On Paysend, for example, Russia is only linked to China and two minnows who depend on Russian remittances. I am surprised Serbia, Turkey etc are not on that drop down menu.

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[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2680608]I live in Moscow for now. I'm not American, but I look quite foreigner / Western.

There are different opinions. I asked a WG recently about her opinion about the current military operation (don't use the term "war" if you are in Russia, it can bring you legal problems), she said that she has relatives in Donbass. These have been terrorized by the Neonazis of the Azov Regiment for almost 8 tears, so she is 100% pro Z.
The fact that the president's son (also a monger like us BTW) was 'allegedly' involved in financing biolabs in Ukraine, which could be used to produce bio weapons doesn't give the US a good name at the moment.[/QUOTE]It is still not easy to get a visa to Russia. For many of you out there it is impossible. Stay away as long as the war rages. The American president's son is troubled, unwise and in some ways corrupted. As a father, honest Joe can do little about it. No father is proud of this kind of nepotism. Honest Joe (Biden) started in politics when he was 28 and was ranked the least wealthy among 100 senators for that very reason. (Ketchup Heinz Kerry was the richest, and Mitt Romney is also up there. I do not mind others being rich. But I mind if people do not see the nobility in Honest Joe's humility). Don't quote this biolabs-stuff-implying-weapons-nonsense. Disinformation. If Hunter Biden invested in farm seeds or other bio stuff in Ukraine, so be it. I have no idea whether he did.

When in Russia, call it a military operation. My lovers in Russia have varying opinions on the matter. I met them all when they were 18 or 19 yo, some through saloons, others through recommendation. The less priviledged, more ad hoc girls without university education are against the war. No loyalty to their president. 20/20 vision that this juvenile sado maso massacre costs them dearly at the shopping mall or the food store. They also like tourists and a little Western flair in their life, and be it that McDonald's experience, which has now vanished. The English speakers I know are all against the war, be they WG or be they just friends. The non-English speaking college educated ones see the matter more like their president. Quotes: "The Ukrainians bombed their own for 8 years". "I have relatives in Donbass and they were treated badly by Azov types". It is not wise to confront these Russians head-on with the facts. Better keep it general like "war is bad for all". Or "let us hope for peace soon". As for the facts: Neither the free elections in Ukraine nor the refugee flows suggest that Ukrainians wish Russian meddling in their country. Ukrainians are not waiting for Putin as their savior. 1. 1% of the Ukrainian population fled to Russia acc. To UNHCR. 11% fled to Western countries. 12% of the Ukrainian population is on the run within Ukraine. Russia baselessly inflated refugee-to-Russia figures, even though UNHCR is active in Russia. The Ukrainian pro-Russia opposition platform "Pro Life" has published a resolution against the war, condemning Russia's aggression. ("Pro Life" in Ukraine has nothing to do with a stance on fetal abortion.) "Pro Life's" leader was behind this resolution against Russia. Another of their leaders spoke out in favor of the Russian invasion and was voted out of office in early March. The Russian foreign secret service paid "Pro-Lifers" to rise against Selensky after the onset of the invasion. The Russians fully expected this to happen. It did not. Several heads of the Russian foreign secret service were placed under house arrest in March 2022 after their bluff was exposed. Russian money was likely syphoned off without getting any results. A third figure head of "Pro Life" is Mr Medvechuk, a rich man, a media tycoon, whose daughter is somehow godfathered by the Russian president. He was under house arrest in Ukraine for various acts of treason when the war broke out. Four days into the war he went into hiding and was recently captured by Ukraine's police. He is the guy shown on TV in handcuffs. Pro Life has been dissolved and has also dissolved itself. Native Russian speakers with grievances against Kiev are gathering in new political formations. But they are small and all against the Russian invasion. Do not buy Russian propaganda. Despite Russia's occupation of parts of Ukraine, the number of civilian casualties due to exchange of bullets / ordnance in Donbass has been on the decline for years. Since at least 2019 the level of civilian casualties had been on par with that along the Berlin wall / East / West German fence! Not entirely peaceful but mostly. This war is unprovoked and illegal under international law. It is also unwinnable for Russia, but certainly losable for Russia, because the West will supply Ukraine with potent weapons as long as Ukraine wants to put up a fight. The Ukrainians are Slavs and will not cede their territory by a stroke of the pen unless they are defeated on the battlefield. Will not happen. Russians on the other hand can be swayed. No civilized Russian man or boy wants to fight there. There are many Chechens, Syrians, mercenaries, conscripts and incel losers fighting for Russia. Poor young men. There are also career soldiers who know nothing else but obedience. But make no mistake: The vast majority of Russians fighting this travesty do not want to be there and their poor results prove it. The general Russian public will follow their leaders. To give civilized Russia a chance, this invasion must be beat back to the Russian border. I hope the Ukrainians are wise enough not to invade Crimea. That might end badly. All young WG in Russia are either disenfranchised, confused or unsure about their self esteem. Most speak no English. Among Russian non-English speakers, you will find more opponents to the war among the disenfranchised than among the enfranchised.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2687857]Russia is still accessible by Turkey, Emirates, Serbian Air, Chinese. Visa is, of course, YMMV.
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It would be challenging to visit Russia anytime soon for most people from EU nations but if you are there I want to warn against person / entity that operates on Telegram channel that helps securing contact details of ladies although after payment of few thousand rubles. Although it is small amount the contact details never work and this amount for membership is apparently refunded when you complain which never arrives back to your account. The channel operates under the name of Individual Ladies of Moscow or some other similar acronym but it is big scam. This channel has apparently tens of thousands of fake members subscribed to make it look legitimate.

Visiting is Russia is dangerous and foolish for the foreseeable future. You can bet the FSB is looking for opportunity to hold a American hostage on some trumped up charge. Putin is looking for any opportunity blackmail & intimidate the west.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2687967]It is still not easy to get a visa to Russia. For many of you out there it is impossible. Stay away as long as the war rages. The American president's son is troubled, unwise and in some ways corrupted. As a father, honest Joe can do little about it. No father is proud of this kind of nepotism. Honest Joe (Biden) started in politics when he was 28 and was ranked the least wealthy among 100 senators for that very reason. (Ketchup Heinz Kerry was the richest, and Mitt Romney is also up there. I do not mind others being rich. But I mind if people do not see the nobility in Honest Joe's humility). Don't quote this biolabs-stuff-implying-weapons-nonsense. Disinformation. If Hunter Biden invested in farm seeds or other bio stuff in Ukraine, so be it. I have no idea whether he did.

When in Russia, call it a military operation. My lovers in Russia have varying opinions on the matter. I met them all when they were 18 or 19 yo, some through saloons, others through recommendation. The less priviledged, more ad hoc girls without university education are against the war. No loyalty to their president. 20/20 vision that this juvenile sado maso massacre costs them dearly at the shopping mall or the food store. They also like tourists and a little Western flair in their life, and be it that McDonald's experience, which has now vanished. The English speakers I know are all against the war, be they WG or be they just friends. The non-English speaking college educated ones see the matter more like their president. Quotes: "The Ukrainians bombed their own for 8 years". "I have relatives in Donbass and they were treated badly by Azov types". It is not wise to confront these Russians head-on with the facts. Better keep it general like "war is bad for all". Or "let us hope for peace soon". As for the facts: Neither the free elections in Ukraine nor the refugee flows suggest that Ukrainians wish Russian meddling in their country. Ukrainians are not waiting for Putin as their savior. 1. 1% of the Ukrainian population fled to Russia acc. To UNHCR. 11% fled to Western countries. 12% of the Ukrainian population is on the run within Ukraine. Russia baselessly inflated refugee-to-Russia figures, even though UNHCR is active in Russia. The Ukrainian pro-Russia opposition platform "Pro Life" has published a resolution against the war, condemning Russia's aggression. ("Pro Life" in Ukraine has nothing to do with a stance on fetal abortion.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2692300]Visiting is Russia is dangerous and foolish for the foreseeable future. You can bet the FSB is looking for opportunity to hold a American hostage on some trumped up charge. Putin is looking for any opportunity blackmail & intimidate the west.[/QUOTE]Not everyone is American.

I will be visiting Moscow this month for a work related trip for 4 days. Kindly suggest some must go places where I can I can get some good Russian food or some contacts would be highly appreciated. Have heard a lot about Penthouse.

Thanks.

Roger.

Have searched and my understanding is that with the exception of some nationalities like Serbians most tourists are not allowed in Russia. You can enter only by an airport and you have to be a resident of the county that airport belongs and only direct flights are allowed. That rule will exclude all of the western countries as there is no direct connection with Russia anymore. It's a shame as I booked a really good hotel 2 months back when the ruble was at the lowest. I can't believe that has strength that much to pre war figures.

Several yrs I have travelled to Moscow.

I am fluent Russian speaker which is a bonus. But it is not biggie if you don't speak. Here are the most trusted ways to fuck hot girls as without being double -crossed. Social media: 90% scammers specially for non-Russian speakers. Your first message should be specific offer. Hot chicks start from 10 000 roubles up to 30 000. Beyond that range only famous bloggers or models with half million subscribers may claim. Below 10 000 don't expect quality. Instagram is not best place because response rate is low. 2-3 responses out of 100 private messages sent. Don't waste time in Instagram. Mamba is good old place but high-end talents became rare after Instagram and other social media tools got popularity. Most beautiful women I found was in Atolin. Ru.

This are many semi &pros in that site looking for quick hookups for money. Subscription fee is high but it worth to try. Clubs, restaurants, cafes are great place for sex-hunters. But be careful of high risk rip-off. Before ordering anything, make sure you have a bargain. Russian women like straight arrows. Don't be shy to tell what's in your mind. And agree whole details of sex. Never contact girls professional sites like intimcity or dosug. Ru. They are fake and risky. Before trip, I always send standard messages with specific price and date of my arrival not to lose time in Moscow with hunting. I will be in Moscow on 15 July. I will share more on-site report about places and prices.

Nice report.

Atolin, hmm never heard about it. But I am willing to try it.

I agree that the risk of rip-off is high in clubs.

In restaurant and cafs I don't hunt, too static location IMO. So I can say nothing about it.

About famous bloggers, models, ballets dancers: from the perspective of a foreign tourist, we don't know who they are, so the "I banged a celeb"-factor does not count. I can give you a concrete example: I fucked a girl I met on tinder, I don't know how she did it, but only foreign men could contact her (I guess she didn't want be recognized), she told me. I didn't know nothing about her. But then, after meeting a couple of times, I was always impressed with her six packs, and one day she told me she is a famous sportswoman, showed me her medals and instagram. This very fact didn't make me like her more or less. But I know some guys -who you can call "male groupies"- who could get attracted to such famous women. Once in mamba I chatted with a girl, she wrote after some messages "And you really don't know who am I?" I said "No", she react kind of angry. After making some yandex search I understood that she is a TV celeb, but at the end I didn't meet her in real life anyway, so it could be a fake as well.

My take on intimcity and dosug: in my personal experience, dosug has less fake profiles than intimcity. The advantage of such WG portals is that you can save a lot of time (meaning you can go down to business right away) if compared to mamba, badoo, tinder, etc. Where you have to talk a lot with a girl before it comes to a real meeting. Specially if we are talking about freebies, and the first meeting in Russia is usually in a café and just to get acquainted (except if she is in her ovulation period, just kidding).

[QUOTE=Jey007;2716722]Several yrs I have travelled to Moscow.

I am fluent Russian speaker which is a bonus. But it is not biggie if you don't speak. Here are the most trusted ways to fuck hot girls as without being double -crossed. Social media: 90% scammers specially for non-Russian speakers. Your first message should be specific offer. Hot chicks start from 10 000 roubles up to 30 000. Beyond that range only famous bloggers or models with half million subscribers may claim. Below 10 000 don't expect quality. Instagram is not best place because response rate is low. 2-3 responses out of 100 private messages sent. Don't waste time in Instagram. Mamba is good old place but high-end talents became rare after Instagram and other social media tools got popularity. Most beautiful women I found was in Atolin. Ru.

This are many semi &pros in that site looking for quick hookups for money. Subscription fee is high but it worth to try. Clubs, restaurants, cafes are great place for sex-hunters. But be careful of high risk rip-off. Before ordering anything, make sure you have a bargain. Russian women like straight arrows. Don't be shy to tell what's in your mind. And agree whole details of sex. Never contact girls professional sites like intimcity or dosug. Ru. They are fake and risky. Before trip, I always send standard messages with specific price and date of my arrival not to lose time in Moscow with hunting. I will be in Moscow on 15 July. I will share more on-site report about places and prices.[/QUOTE]

This last day of my 6 day trip to Moscow. I am writing right sitting in the airport while memories are fresh. I will cover my mongering experience from social platforms to strip clubs.

I arrived on 15 July and checked in Marriotte hotel in Noviy Arbat 32. Great location in the heart of city where there are plenty of cafes, walking distance to Krasniy Ploshad and Moscow City is 3,5 km. Friendly personnel and great breakfast. There is New York steak cafe inside hotel and Japan restaurant.

At passport control, officer even did not look into my PCR test but it is still mandatory upon arrival.

Dollar's exchange rate varied between 61-63 roubles as it was before pandemic.

War mood: you can hear about war only in local news outlets. No single word or discussion in public places. Sanctions have not hit hard. Rouble is at same rate as used to be 3 yrs ago, services, food prices have not changed much. Only barrier I faced was unavailability of my Visa / Master card payments. I dropped by Sberbank to get Mir card to use non-cash payments. It took 15 minutes to issue card. It is useful to use for taxi fees if you tie with mob number.

Mamba. Ru experience.

It used to be great place. I found a lot of upscale top babies just 2 yrs ago. This time things were different. Many scammers and pimps. They post fake pictures and claim belongs to her but when you get in touch in telegram it appears this was just call center girl and starts to send pictures of girls which is below average. I guess salons and bordellos made their ways into Mamba. Only positive experience I got was psychology student 175 cm height 22 old.

I paid 15 000 roubles. 99% of respondents were fake, not independent girls but pimps.

Atolin. Ru has replaced old mamba I guess. There are authentic profiles and high-end girls. 3 day subscription is around 1800 roubles and could be paid with Qiwi. Top girls in atolin starts from 20 000 roubles. You need at least one week beforehand register and start arrange things.

Summer is not best season to travel. Students which are huge pipeline for mongers have returned in homes in other towns. Local Moscow top talents leave for warm countries. I guess cold season is right for mongering activity.

I will write about strip clubs experience later.

Time to take off.

[QUOTE=Jey007;2722345]This last day of my 6 day trip to Moscow. I am writing right sitting in the airport while memories are fresh.[/QUOTE]How did you enter? Fly from Turkey or Serbia? If you are from the EU, did you have any trouble getting a visa?

I live on visa-free country and flew from Baku.

Ok let us get down to strip-clubs.

They are most right places to enjoy your time without being damaged financially and touch beautiful naked bodies for a little money. From start I did not plan to pay more than 300 $ and don't think pussy has to correlation with oil or gas prices. I told them rouble vs dollar exchange rate remains as before so I am not going to adjust old pricelist.

I will wait for sanctions to take deeper impact on Russian economy before I will arrange my next trip. It is still same overpriced Moscow yet.

Penthouse- located nearby famous Chaihona cafe in Noviy Arbat which was 300 meters from Marriotte hotel I stayed. I visited this club 3 times during my stay. Everytime you can see new faces. Girls are between 165-175 heights to carry high heels comfortably. Hostesses were also new and sexy. I did not take my in-house fuck chance because my target was 178+ Irina Sheyk type girls. But there were girls between 6-7 scale still untanned, snow-white. Rules have not changed which is good news. Entrance 2000 roubles, in-house sex 20 000 roubles (14 000 to girls, 6000 for room). Corona extra costs 750 roubles. Girls approach and ask permission for dance on your laps or before you. You can touch asses, thighs, tits for 200 roubles. You can also invite hostesses to your table for 15 minutes for 2000 roubles. Private dance is 3000 roubles under one song but the clubs run promotions several times to dance under 2 songs for 3000 roubles with dancers or waitresses. In last night I saw new baby with sand-clock shape body and immediately invited her to my table. She was 18 yr old horny local Moscow girl and she said it was her first day. I bought her fresh orange juice for 800 and we chatted around 15 mins. I did not want to waste money on site sex but rather invite her to my hotel room. But there was not time for that to take her away during working hours so I passed my chance. Overall experience is great with this club since 100% guaranteed that you will get laid. This club was also most cozy and spacious one among other 3 clubs I attended.

Aurora- not far from Kremlin area. 3,5 km from Penthouse.

Not big like Penthouse and 15 girls with look of 5-6 point in scale. But they are friendly. The same rules and the prices are applicable. I did not sit long enough to see all talents.

Loft- it was lower quality place located in an old building. Girls and waitresses are not the same quality as in Penthouse and Aurora. The same rules and the same prices applicable.

Golden Dolls- waste of money and time. Entrance 6000 roubles and the hostess give you 2 chips in a small envelope yo use for 2 private dances. The catch is selling private dances in advance and they don't return money if you don't use them. Security inside was rude. Audience were Russians mainly. Small bar and deposit required couches. I liked 2 girls but one with arrogant face said she is busy and disappeared then for the rest of night, another tall blonde was sticked to a bald Russian man in the couch and even did not listen to what I said. Other girls approached for private dance but they were all low quality and I preferred to keep chips and throw away rather than wasting them on vultures. Rules of the club are different. No touches unlike other clubs, no sex, no take away. I did not get why this club is promoted like elite club because there is nothing enjoyable neither comfort within this club. Not right choose for mongers.

Other scenes for mongering are expensive restaurants like Oblaka, Erwin, Soho room and etc. Psychology student I fucked advised Erwin saying girls frequent this place for hookup with rich daddies. I went in around 20:00 pm. The restaurant is famous for sea food. I saw beautiful slim girls dressed well as for date. They were coming in pairs or alone. I did not make my move looking into menu prices. I paid for 4500 roubles for sushi and Kareleya salmon. If you want to make moves be ready to pay at least 10 000 roubles for meal with these ladies and this is not guaranteed happy ending. Minimum prices are 20 000 in such expensive restaurants to take away girls.

One weird thing I heard from my old contacts whom I fucked for 200-300 $ that cost of living is soaring up and their prices have gone up. But I gave second thought to meet them again. 300 $ is benchmark used by strip clubs and other hookers should be aware of this competition.

Just how risky is it to visit Russia / Moscow right now?

So I'm to totally aware that life in Russia is completely normal with everyday life right now.

I am also aware that VISA / Mastercard doesn't work etc. And the need to carry enough cash, flights are expensive and limited and they can close borders at anytime.

However, has anyone from the UK / US or any "Western Country" been to Russia for purely leisure purposes since the war started and returned back to their home countries with no issues at immigration going in / coming back?

I live in the UK but however have a passport that allows for visa free access to Russia.

My main concerns are having a Russian stamp on my passport being seen as a red flag in other countries?

Feedback and discussion would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2723010]Just how risky is it to visit Russia / Moscow right now?

So I'm to totally aware that life in Russia is completely normal with everyday life right now.

I am also aware that VISA / Mastercard doesn't work etc. And the need to carry enough cash, flights are expensive and limited and they can close borders at anytime.

However, has anyone from the UK / US or any "Western Country" been to Russia for purely leisure purposes since the war started and returned back to their home countries with no issues at immigration going in / coming back?

I live in the UK but however have a passport that allows for visa free access to Russia.

My main concerns are having a Russian stamp on my passport being seen as a red flag in other countries?

Feedback and discussion would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I live in one of the countries of interest to Russia and was questioned for over 2 hours by different members of immigration and plain clothes police at domodedovo airport on arrival. This is just before the war / military operation started. I would strongly advise against travelling there atleast till the conflict is over. If you cannot speak russian this would become even more problematic as the state news has been demonising 'panengleeshki' people for good few months now and threat of serious violence and / or arrest for fabricated charges against you cannot be ruled out.

P.S.- I have been to both Ukraine and Russia and I'm sad to see the current situation. Hope this gets resolved soon.

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2723385]I live in one of the countries of interest to Russia and was questioned for over 2 hours by different members of immigration and plain clothes police at domodedovo airport on arrival. This is just before the war / military operation started. I would strongly advise against travelling there atleast till the conflict is over. If you cannot speak russian this would become even more problematic as the state news has been demonising 'panengleeshki' people for good few months now and threat of serious violence and / or arrest for fabricated charges against you cannot be ruled out.

P.S.- I have been to both Ukraine and Russia and I'm sad to see the current situation. Hope this gets resolved soon.[/QUOTE]Why is it so hard to understand that any Western traveler to Russia is a potential hostage right now? You think what happened to Greener can't happen to you?

I mean, to me supporting a fascist state with my euro / dollars, a state that's waging an aggressive, unprovoked war against its neighbor would be a deterrent enough, but if it's not -- how about your own ass?

I am a silent reader of this forum. Was in Moscow sometime back and had decent fun, I don't go for WG's or regular pros. I like normal and semi pros only, not professionals. Managed to get in touch with a Russian girl online. Chatted her up for a few weeks and clearly told her 'I like you and want you in room' when I visit Moscow next. She said looks difficult but we'll see. Landed in Moscow early morning and called my regular girl who is my go to girl for the city. She is 50 but has a body of a 35-37 year old. She is as fit as one can get, blonde small hair and cycles daily. Reason for her beautiful ass. Allows me everything including anal and bareback (never did though) finished in mouth with swallow to the last drop. She doesn't ask for money but I do gift her a perfume / dress / lingerie or some $. Couldn't sleep so was drinking Gin the whole day. I was really tired by the evening so messaged my internet chick to meet me some other day. She insisted on meeting up as it was a Saturday and places would be happening. Well she came to my hotel and we met in the lobby she looked very decent, greeted her with a nice gift. She spoke excellent English as was in admin of an international company. Weather was tough and she was layered up nicely, we went for a coffee across the street. Chatted up for an hour, weather became decent and asked if we could take a walk by the water body / river and she had a big smile and agree instantly. Had a very nice conversation with her for another hour. It was almost 9 and so I asked her if we should grab a bite in my hotel and she agreed on the condition we will not go to the room. My hotel had a really nice bar on the terrace floor. I called in for a few whiskey shots while she was sipping her green tea. I became horny and started my moves, kissed her and the next moment my hands were in her dress. Asked if she was comfortable for the room and she said ok. Next moment we are inside the room and she was impressed by the standard. Goes for a quick shower and comes into the room in a bathrobe. Slips in the duvet with me and the action started. She had a nice face and her ass was to die for, beautiful shape, the right curve and it was really clean. She herself asked for 69 and it was truly magical. Must have banged her for good 35-40 minutes in all positions before I convinced for her first anal session. I played it nicely and made sure she liked it, finished in her mouth and we cuddled for a bit. She liked me but did complain however and tell me that I was not her type. She smiled in the elevator and said 'I am not virgin' anymore. We both laughed and said good night to each other. Next day I messaged her again and it was a a repeat of the same in the evening before she said 'she doesn't want to see me again.'

Face 7/10.

Body 8/10.

Small tits and a beautiful ass, nice waist. Beautiful eyes.

Excellent attitude.

[QUOTE=RookieCookie;2734865] she agreed on the condition we will not go to the room. .[/QUOTE]Oh I know such cases too. Regarding non working girls on tinder, IMO many wannabe conservative girls write "NO ONS", but surprisingly end up fucking on the first meeting. On the other extreme, there is hotties from 'pure' whose profile photos looks like they will bang everything that moves, then in the real world it turned out to be shy cats, and even after 3 dates nothing happens. I hope you had a nice time in Russia.

Hey wing F,

It was a decent trip. I banged her and we both had excellent fun and it was her first ever anal scene. Surprisingly she confided that it was way better than the other hole and she was a little scared to begin with. The next day I went all guns blazing and because of that she never wanted to see me ever again, well her loss really. I make it a point on the chat I want to be in bed with them so they know if they show up for a coffee scene they will end up in room. No qualms from both sides I guess. Taking a break from Russia now. Baku here I come, LOL.

[QUOTE=WingForwing;2735692]Oh I know such cases too. Regarding non working girls on tinder, IMO many wannabe conservative girls write "NO ONS", but surprisingly end up fucking on the first meeting. On the other extreme, there is hotties from 'pure' whose profile photos looks like they will bang everything that moves, then in the real world it turned out to be shy cats, and even after 3 dates nothing happens. I hope you had a nice time in Russia.[/QUOTE]

Having traveled the world extensively, Moscow and Russia as a whole emphatically ticked all the boxes as a perfect leisure destination. World class, comfortable cities with amazing public spaces and amenities, cheap prices, extremely favourable exchange rates, great nightlife and beautiful, elegant feminine girls that love foreigners. Easy to pickup regular girls and a well established P4P scene. And being a massage guy, premium massage salons with young, student type girls.

From what it seems like, Russia is just going to be more isolated and increasingly difficult to visit as a foreigner, and just highly impractical regarding everything. It's a real shame that the place where it was possible to live like a king at the because of nothing is now inaccessible.

I know that there are plenty of Russian girls now in Dubai, Turkey etc. But they are just not the same as the local experience.

Tried destinations like Prague to replace Russia, but it just doesn't come close.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2754359]Having traveled the world extensively, Moscow and Russia as a whole emphatically ticked all the boxes as a perfect leisure destination. World class, comfortable cities with amazing public spaces and amenities, cheap prices, extremely favourable exchange rates, great nightlife and beautiful, elegant feminine girls that love foreigners. Easy to pickup regular girls and a well established P4P scene. And being a massage guy, premium massage salons with young, student type girls.

From what it seems like, Russia is just going to be more isolated and increasingly difficult to visit as a foreigner, and just highly impractical regarding everything. It's a real shame that the place where it was possible to live like a king at the because of nothing is now inaccessible.

I know that there are plenty of Russian girls now in Dubai, Turkey etc. But they are just not the same as the local experience.

Tried destinations like Prague to replace Russia, but it just doesn't come close.[/QUOTE]IMO Difficult, yes. Inaccessible, not. I know some Westerners who managed to visit the country. And after enjoying the summer they went back to their countries. But I agree that one need balls to do that as Westerner. Specially if you are from a so called "unfriendly country". The said list has approx. 40 countries. The planet Earth has 195 countries. But again, I know some from the 40 countries who managed to 'penetrate' anyway. Even in the Soviet times many Westerners (including, yes, many Americans, hell even mongers) managed to travel to the CCCP, and back then, the same: difficult, yes. Inaccessible, not. Watch the movie Intergirl.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2754634]IMO Difficult, yes. Inaccessible, not. I know some Westerners who managed to visit the country. And after enjoying the summer they went back to their countries. But I agree that one need balls to do that as Westerner. Specially if you are from a so called "unfriendly country". The said list has approx. 40 countries. The planet Earth has 195 countries. But again, I know some from the 40 countries who managed to 'penetrate' anyway. Even in the Soviet times many Westerners (including, yes, many Americans, hell even mongers) managed to travel to the CCCP, and back then, the same: difficult, yes. Inaccessible, not. Watch the movie Intergirl.[/QUOTE]Yes, totally understand your sentiment. I would definitely take the risk as it would be worth the value I'the get out of it. Biggest obstacle and deterrence is the inability to access funds from there and bank cards not working. In the rare event of getting stuck there, you're totally screwed and stranded. Also the exchange rate is not as extremely favourable as it was.

Not to get too political or anything but just a general comment in passing. Moscow was voted best city in the world to live in in 2022 by UN pre-war. It's extremely impressive how they've cleaned and developed it from what it was 20-30 years ago. Seems crazy that they're willing to throw all of that progress down the drain.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2754647] Also the exchange rate is not as extremely favourable as it was.
[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree, this sucked when I was there.

And about risks, I also agree with you: so generally speaking, if one is from the list I wrote in the post, you have to think twice, before you take a decision. Maybe better to wait until the conflict is over, and let's hope it will be over ASAP. Oh BTW, there is a British guy who lives in Russia, iEarlGrey, just in case you want find out how the situation there really is by now. Well, from his perspective of course. I think he has / had a YT channel, can't find it right now, but I think he is still videoblogging somewhere in some platform.

So I'm an American who's been in and out Russia for most of the year. I'm currently in and staying in a smaller city. Just wanted to chime in about whether or not it's safe to visit.

Overall, yes. It's safe. Moscow is clean and the people are friendly, even if you're from an unfriendly country. In general, it's more about how you act than where you're from.

That being said, there are some downsides. Such as an unfavorable exchange rate, being limited to what you can bring in (max $10 k), and language barriers. Having friends in the city helps a ton.

I'll answer any questions if that helps.

[QUOTE=SmoothOpz;2757492]

Overall, yes. It's safe. Moscow is clean and the people are friendly, even if you're from an unfriendly country. In general, it's more about how you act than where you're from.

[/QUOTE]There is massive difference between ordinary Russians and the communist Govt of Russia. A lot of people are waiting to visit Russia once the conflict is over and flights start from EU. Hope this happens soon.

Somebody knows what is happening with Intimcity?

IT.

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2765644]There is massive difference between ordinary Russians and the communist Govt of Russia. A lot of people are waiting to visit Russia once the conflict is over and flights start from EU. Hope this happens soon.[/QUOTE]There is no communist government in Russia since 1991.

IT.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2765783]

There is no communist government in Russia since 1991.

[/QUOTE]Communist not in the literal sense but hybrid way. To be more precise it could be classed as dictatorship totalitarian communist party. There are many similarities with communist ideologies such as most of the companies are state owned, media controlled by the state and strong censorship. By the way the largest party after the Vlad's party is communist party.

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2765802]Communist not in the literal sense but hybrid way. To be more precise it could be classed as dictatorship totalitarian communist party. There are many similarities with communist ideologies such as most of the companies are state owned, media controlled by the state and strong censorship. By the way the largest party after the Vlad's party is communist party.[/QUOTE]Communist is Just a word the Yankees (west) made up to give to their enemies.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2765832]Communist is Just a word the Yankees (west) made up to give to their enemies.[/QUOTE]No, we did not create such a word exclusively for our red enemies. But what we did make up for the most hated of red enemies is "pinko commie" haha! And "Yankee" refers only to Americans, and not the whole western world. And it's far more complicated than that. You see, to a foreigner a "Yankee" is an American. But to an American a Yankee is somebody from the northern United States. For someone from the northern United States a Yankee is somebody from the northeastern United States. For someone from the northeastern United States a Yankee is someone from Vermont. And for someone from Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pot pie for breakfast hahaha! I forgive you for loosely throwing around words without a full understanding of American history and culture LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2765858]No, we did not create such a word exclusively for our red enemies. But what we did make up for the most hated of red enemies is "pinko commie" haha! And "Yankee" refers only to Americans, and not the whole western world. And it's far more complicated than that. You see, to a foreigner a "Yankee" is an American. But to an American a Yankee is somebody from the northern United States. For someone from the northern United States a Yankee is somebody from the northeastern United States. For someone from the northeastern United States a Yankee is someone from Vermont. And for someone from Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pot pie for breakfast hahaha! I forgive you for loosely throwing around words without a full understanding of American history and culture LOL![/QUOTE]Oh Yess my friend. And communists I knew (in CCCP) are something very different from actual Russia. Somebody thinks that if state controls some important media, owns important industries etc etc they are communists. It's not so otherwise France and UK should have been communist countries. Italy too. Of course there are a lot of nuances. Soviet Union has never been a dictator system like Italy, Germany, Spain or South American Countries. It was very different. Totalitarian of course, but different and it has nothing to do with today's Russia. I have been there so many times in the last 40 years, searching pink holes (The Cane you know.) so I know: ". It's far more complicated than that. ".

Just my two cents.

IT.

Isn't it interesting how this thread has completely "dried up" in recent months? With the special action that we don't really need to refer to by name, I suppose it is understandable. To any of you ISG members who are left in Moscow, I would certainly be interested to know what's going on. I suspect that there are still a few expats still living in Moscow keeping their heads down. But what about the sex scene in Moscow? Has there been an evolution? I suppose I should not be so lazy and check for myself on [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL].

For any ISG's still left in Moskva, please let's hear from you!

All the best.

Jake993 (formerly of Moscow).

I know an expat monger who lives in Moscow. But he can not post here, because he is a basic member. He knows a lot about the scene, but has no rights yet to post anything here. Since the exit of FB from Russia, there has been increasing activity / offers going on on VK and mamba. But again, be careful with the black sheeps. And yes, the community sextalk seems to be legit.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2813298]Isn't it interesting how this thread has completely "dried up" in recent months? With the special action that we don't really need to refer to by name, I suppose it is understandable. To any of you ISG members who are left in Moscow, I would certainly be interested to know what's going on. I suspect that there are still a few expats still living in Moscow keeping their heads down. But what about the sex scene in Moscow? Has there been an evolution? I suppose I should not be so lazy and check for myself on [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL].

For any ISG's still left in Moskva, please let's hear from you!

All the best.

Jake993 (formerly of Moscow).[/QUOTE]

Visited Moscow last month after 3 and half years, tried Vanilia, Soho and Imperium for nuru massage, ladies were gorgeous as before. 12 k for 60 minutes nuru plus bonus 30 minutes classic massage for regular customers. I was hinted FS is now allowed with extra charges but I didn't try as I do enjoy the feeling of being nuru massaged by stunning Russian ladies.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2816365]I know an expat monger who lives in Moscow. But he can not post here, because he is a basic member. He knows a lot about the scene, but has no rights yet to post anything here. Since the exit of FB from Russia, there has been increasing activity / offers going on on VK and mamba. But again, be careful with the black sheeps. And yes, the community sextalk seems to be legit.[/QUOTE]Judging from the posts on [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL] prices certainly don't seem to have dropped much. Mind you, with international travel options being more limited, there are probably a lot of local boys with a little extra cash to spend so I suppose this should be expected. We will have to monitor the situation to see if conditions return to the 90's level where regular office girls were supplementing their income turning tricks. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course. No disrespect to our Russian monger brothers but, those were certainly the heydays of Moscow mongering. I am certain that you have all heard the stories. Rather than risk offending anyone, I will leave the details to your imagination. And for any of you who were in Mow-town from the mid 90's to the early 2,000's, you know what I am referring to.

I am not Russian, but many times I heard the stories about the 90's. Good and bad ones. IMO It will never be 100% like that anymore, but maybe something similar, hell, maybe even better (regarding to us foreign guests). As for now, Due to the difficulties in logistics and visa etc. It's more difficult for Westerners now to reach the land in question. But, as my local Russian source said recently, it looks like mongers from India, Turkey, Emirates are more than happy to fill any and each empty gap left. We will see how the situation will develop. Just like you I am very impressed that the "valuta' situation stayed stable. Nobody in the collective West expected that. And it's over one year now.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2820918]But, as my local Russian source said recently, it looks like mongers from India, Turkey, Emirates are more than happy to fill any and each empty gap left.[/QUOTE]This is a really good point. I had not even considered that!

I abhor war and aggression, will have none of the unnecessary and counter-to-Russia's-national-interest escalation of 22/23. But the simply truth is that wars are disruptors and impoverishers and thus have always led to mongering opportunities. Male labor is in high demand right now in Russia. But unskilled 18 yo female labor. Lots of excess capacity there. Among the ten 10's I had the priviledge to spend paid love time with, 7 are russians and ukrainians. Beautiful slim young petite horny-in-need sponsorettes. Russia and Ukraine deprived their youth of opportunity, so these birds seized upon the opportunities their fine bodies offered them. And have no doubt, the imperial nonsense spouting out of Moscow is the driver of the lack of opportunity for young females. Treat them nicely, ge generous and they will reciprocate. And stop the chatter about "the olden heydays". That is only a manifest of the writer being old & tired.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2820986]This is a really good point. I had not even considered that![/QUOTE]Yep, my immediate question to him was: and what about Chinese? I heard they are the main ones helping to run the Russian economy now, if I not mistaking. The answer: "Not really, I didn't heard of any Chinese men ordering girls to hotel or visiting the parlores. I don't know why, maybe this is not in their culture. " For now not, it's what the girls said to him. We will see how the situation will develop.

The girl I ordered to my place last time I was in Russia. I asked her by then if she had ANY foreign man at all in her salon recently. She said one was from Italy and one from Turkey.

Would be really interesting to know what's the market like considering such a large base of middle / upper class Russians have migrated and plenty of the women able to have moved to Dubai or do short stints there because it's so lucrative. The Russian recruiting network for the industry must be so much higher in Dubai since all of this started. And Russian women in Dubai / abroad are just not the same as the ones that stay local. Whole different attitude and outlook. Probably due to their high demand abroad.

I absolutely loved the premium and plentiful massage salons in Russia. Clean, professional and so sensual with young, fresh student hotties that are of a much higher quality than girls who offer FH. The best I've ever come across was in Kazan. Student city with lots of students working as masseuses and proper GFE without FH.

I've considered visiting again but just too impractical with no access to bank cards etc. I've resorted to Prague now which is the closest set up to Russian salons and a few of them are Russian owned and Russian style. Plenty of Russian, Ukrainian and Kazakh hotties working in these salons too. It helps that Prague as a city is much cheaper than the rest of Europe too.

But I really do miss Russia. The girls and the wonderful cities equally.

IMHO it's a misconception to think that a large part of the upper class Russians have migrated. In Russia local riches are still getting richer and while the economy is still stable despite sanctions (as opposed to for example Germany which is officially in recession and the US which almost went default), the market is slowly growing. Yes many Russians migrated, but it was in all classes of the society, specially the lower class who used the chance of the momentum to say "-Hey Western country, here I am, a political refugee, give me some refugee status, financial help etc. !" who definitively will not work as a WG, on the contrary. Now if he / she was really opposing the government, it's another question, well it's her / his right, but he / she maybe understood the heat of the moment is now to fulfill that old dream (of migration to the West, which dates back some years). Opportunistic chess players, possible, but I don't blame them. Everyone has the right to achieve his goals in life. Good luck to them.

Russian diaspora goes back to the Soviet Times and even before. And will continue after the end of the SMO. About the rest of your post I can not comment, as I don't know what FH is.

Some Russian artists, including icon Pugachova (who was one of the most influential celebrities in Russia) left Russia last year because of the situation and SMO. Meanwhile some surprisingly already came back, but those who became too vocal like Zemfira was put in a list of "Foreign Agents" (under a law that also exists in the USA BTW), which means, if she decides to return, the welcoming will not be so bright. We will see how the situation will develop. There are direct flights to Georgia (country, not state) now as far as I understand.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2822467]Would be really interesting to know what's the market like considering such a large base of middle / upper class Russians have migrated and plenty of the women able to have moved to Dubai or do short stints there because it's so lucrative. The Russian recruiting network for the industry must be so much higher in Dubai since all of this started. And Russian women in Dubai / abroad are just not the same as the ones that stay local. Whole different attitude and outlook. Probably due to their high demand abroad.

I absolutely loved the premium and plentiful massage salons in Russia. Clean, professional and so sensual with young, fresh student hotties that are of a much higher quality than girls who offer FH. The best I've ever come across was in Kazan. Student city with lots of students working as masseuses and proper GFE without FH.

I've considered visiting again but just too impractical with no access to bank cards etc. I've resorted to Prague now which is the closest set up to Russian salons and a few of them are Russian owned and Russian style. Plenty of Russian, Ukrainian and Kazakh hotties working in these salons too. It helps that Prague as a city is much cheaper than the rest of Europe too.

But I really do miss Russia. The girls and the wonderful cities equally.[/QUOTE]

Are the prices at clubs and salons the same or is there a price reduction? I miss visiting Russia.

I think the best source to find p4 p is Tinder, it really works wonders in Russia. I got a shit ton of matches while in other countries I barely got any. I could not even meet all the girls I matched with, there were so many. Any Russian girl would love to date a gringo, you often don't even have to pay anything, they will fuck you free of charge if you are half decent looking and a gentleman.

[QUOTE=James006;2833351]Are the prices at clubs and salons the same or is there a price reduction? I miss visiting Russia.[/QUOTE]It depends on what do you mean with clubs.

Regarding the saloni, they are not so common in Moscow. Piter has more saloni. Prices can vary from salon to salon starting at 3 k rub for 1/2 hour incl. Protected BJ, and going up in principle there is no limit; but in average I would say 10 k for 1 hour incl. BBBJ with a decent girl, this seems to be the benchmark.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2833367]I think the best source to find p4 p is Tinder, it really works wonders in Russia. I got a shit ton of matches while in other countries I barely got any. I could not even meet all the girls I matched with, there were so many. Any Russian girl would love to date a gringo, you often don't even have to pay anything, they will fuck you free of charge if you are half decent looking and a gentleman.[/QUOTE]That maybe. But in reality tinder decided to leave Russia soon. But there is alternatives like mamba, badoo (these are for dating). And pure (a more sexual app).

Actually the prices are up if we are talking RUB. In St. Petersburg the average would be around 6000 Rub and up nowadays. However, the seems to be a crackdown on salons, so many of them closed / switched to outcall only / working descretely with mongers they already know from before. Also many services that used to be included in the main price if the girls like you (like kissing, DATY) now are paid extras. Things just seem to be getting worse nowadays.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2833591]I
Regarding the saloni, they are not so common in Moscow. Piter has more saloni. Prices can vary from salon to salon starting at 3 k rub for 1/2 hour incl. Protected BJ, and going up in principle there is no limit; but in average I would say 10 k for 1 hour incl. BBBJ with a decent girl, this seems to be the benchmark.[/QUOTE]

My local source (who lives in Piter) didn't inform me about police crakdowns recently, old school chains like FrauM, Modeli and Pride are still active, like they have been for years. But a while ago he said something about few salons which closed, I don't remember that exact reason but he thinks that the owners didn't pay the vzyatka to their respective krishas, which is suicidal for any business. About Moscow I don't know, I did not visit salons there for years. As a side note: the EUR is quite high at the moment, around 100 rub. Oh, and regarding kissing, hmm, I myself didn't want to french kiss most of the girls, but those who were extremely sweet I kissed, and she did not charge extra, but again, this already over one year ago. Maybe things has changed.

Does anyone have news about the price level in Russia and whether it is unchanged?

Especially related to ladies.

Did somebody tried intimstory. Com aka Moscow Devushka? I am planning a trip to Russian capital, and it looks like this one has some gems on it (if they are real). The other resources are all in Russian, so this one is what I need with my upper miserable Russian. From the design it looks pretty much like the old intimcity, maybe it's the same site.

I texted (in Russian) 3 girls there already who gave their whatsapp number. Until now no answer, so basically the same old problem from intimcity: preghosting. Damn, I will have to go after Russian sites again.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2851165]Did somebody tried intimstory. Com aka Moscow Devushka? I am planning a trip to Russian capital, and it looks like this one has some gems on it (if they are real). The other resources are all in Russian, so this one is what I need with my upper miserable Russian. From the design it looks pretty much like the old intimcity, maybe it's the same site.

I texted (in Russian) 3 girls there already who gave their whatsapp number. Until now no answer, so basically the same old problem from intimcity: preghosting. Damn, I will have to go after Russian sites again.[/QUOTE]I was in Moscowthis year July, For five days. No luck. Those girls are choose， Who use Telegram or what's app No one replies. Only ugly replies. Every day I'm calling for 20 numbers from intimstory website. 15 calls No one answers. 5 calls sounds like they are shout at me. I can speak basic Russian languages, but my Russian listening is very very bad. In the end, I try 2 Average girl， One ugly and old girl, I feel so angry I head to Saintpetersburg, The citie of salons. Then everything goes well.

Oh, man. What a pity. Your experience does not encourage me to keep my traveling plans. Yes, I agree that things in Piter are much easier, despite of the fact that the WGs usually don't speak a foreign language as well. Tinder also left, I tried to trick it with VPN, but it did not work. It was a good alternative to find freebies in my last trip to Moscow, it worked. Now only the usual suspects available. Mamba (many fakers), badoo (this is the closest thing to tinder I would say, but I didnt use it for over 2 years now) and pure (more sexual dating app, but only de facto active in Moscow and Piter). But tinder was IMO better than all of these 3 to find gems ready to close the deal without too much drama.

My local buddy chases the girls directly in instagram (vpn works here). He doesn't care that this is not a dating app. And got some success.
But coming back to the topic, Moscow, quite honestly, the capital was never good in keeping decent and affordable salons. Even before the pandemy it was the same problem. Old school mongers praise the wild 90ies as the prime of the city. For now the good times are not back yet.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2852123]I was in Moscow...[/QUOTE]

Try the Pure app = lots of russian action on there. Believe me. I was getting matches in Sochi and it's unresricted.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2852136]Oh, man. What a pity. Your experience does not encourage me to keep my traveling plans. Yes, I agree that things in Piter are much easier, despite of the fact that the WGs usually don't speak a foreign language as well. Tinder also left, I tried to trick it with VPN, but it did not work. It was a good alternative to find freebies in my last trip to Moscow, it worked. Now only the usual suspects available. Mamba (many fakers), badoo (this is the closest thing to tinder I would say, but I didnt use it for over 2 years now) and pure (more sexual dating app, but only de facto active in Moscow and Piter). But tinder was IMO better than all of these 3 to find gems ready to close the deal without too much drama.

My local buddy chases the girls directly in instagram (vpn works here). He doesn't care that this is not a dating app. And got some success.
But coming back to the topic, Moscow, quite honestly, the capital was never good in keeping decent and affordable salons. Even before the pandemy it was the same problem. Old school mongers praise the wild 90ies as the prime of the city. For now the good times are not back yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cynicalist;2853063]Try the Pure app = lots of russian action on there. Believe me. I was getting matches in Sochi and it's unresricted.[/QUOTE]Cool. So did you manage to meet somebody from that app for real? They even have some couples there, ha ha looking for a bull.

Is this site real? I mean prices are cheaper as compared to others [URL]https://msk27.dosug-gid.net/[/URL].

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2665152]I want to continue this thread because I have a lot of things to say. Some times ago, I found a blog where they described how to get in touch with camgirls for little money. I will try to find the link and post it again.

Experienced camgirls vs non experienced camgirls: Some young camgirls sound very greedy and arrogant, they may ask you for more money than experienced camgirls.

I don't think it is a good thing to talk about your offer on a cam website. It is always better to talk about it once you interact with her on a social media. There are many reasons why a camgirl will not tell you that she agrees on sex against money during a cam show on a camgirl website. Their chatrooms can be monitored by 1/ studio employees and 2/ website employees (possibly via team viewer). She does not want to take the risk of losing her camgirl job because this is her revenue. Explain your offer once you are on a social media.

Also, some camgirl websites retain text messages for a long time.

Don't believe in their rich lifestyle:

Some camgirls pretend they make a lot of money. In fact, they get a small commission of their work. Don't forget that when you tip a camgirl, a part of it goes to tax, a part of it may go to a studio, a part of it goes to the website, The remaining share is paid to the camgirl. I have been able to assess the purchasing power of these camgirls. First around Moscow, the rentals are not so high. They always live in small studios. They have few furniture.

Making an offer:

Since these women aren't pro, you must make an offer. It is important not to spoil the woman. I made this mistake. I overpaid.

So, I suggest you to visit the local websites for locals in Russian. You will see.

[URL]https://msk17.dosug-gid.net/f/cena_za_chas_ot=1000[/URL], cena_za_chas__do=7000/.

[URL]http://w.intim-city.nl/[/URL]

Don't expect the woman to take any decision, have a plan in mind. For instance, if she lives in a remote town around Moscow. You may need to visit her or she must visit you. So, don't ask her which option she wants. If you prefer to see her in Moscow, pay for the train. That's it. Let's sum up, you should have a plan in place. You must know how you will meet her, you know how much time you will spend with her. You will tell her what you want from her. You know how much money you want to give her. Beforehand, tell her your plan in details so that she just has to say yes or no. If she says no, you can ask her why. And then, you can modify your plan. The payment method should be part of your plan. Bitcoin is the best because it requires the smallest number of administrative tasks. I already paid a girl via western union online but there were a lot of painful tasks to do. One of my credit card was denied several times. With Webmoney, they monitor you and it is a really bad idea. I never used Yandex money though. I think that online payments are a great trap because they conn you into thinking that they provide the easiest way to pay. Then, they freeze your payment and they ask you to provide supporting documents. This is an issue that I never had with Western Union and moneygram.

So for instance, a woman was ok to meet me. She didn't want to have sex with me. She didn't want any penetration. I told her that she could give me a blowjob for a smaller price.

It is important to bring her all guarantees that everything is safe for her.

Convince her:

I have learned to decode what women told me. If a woman told me: "it is not going to happen" "it will not happen". You can answer have a nice day. There will be nothing you will be able to do.

In the contrary, if she says: "I don't meet people from here". This is another story. This means she may work as a pro in the real world.

I never use the word prostitute or escort when I communicate with a woman.

In fact, I use the following arguments to convince her (you don't need to use all of them, they work depending on the situation).

= if she would have to move to Germany, Duba or Thailand to make money in a club, she would have to leave far away from her home city.

= God knows what type of problems she can face in a foreign country in a club.

= She will get 100% of the money while she usually has to pay huge commissions to third partiers like studios or websites or escort agency.

= If she has any question, if she wants to know me better, I tell her than she can talk to me.

= pay a down payment to her. I paid until now, half of the money, but I think that it could be too much. Maybe it would be better to pay 1 third when you schedule the meeting, 1 third just before the meeting, 1 third when you meet via your smartphone. Camgirls asked me to pay via Bitcoins and western unions.

= If she is concerned about her reputation, tell her that you are a foreigner, you don't know anybody in Russia.

= Nobody will know. On the other hand, if she would work as a pornstar, everybody would know.

Shy women:

Shy women prefer to meet you in a neutral place first and then, they will agree to meet you in a hotel room or in your apartment.

You need more time to trust women:

It is slightly more expensive but before meeting a woman, I had a snapshat conversation with her. If you do this, you will be able to identify the scammers and the good girls.[/QUOTE]

So my love for Russian girls being without limit and being tired of Dubai and the cost of everything in winter, I decided to head to Russia for 2 weeks with the new e-visa.

And I have no words. This is not my first time in Russia but wow, I don't know if something changed or it's just I'm getting hornier by the day, but every other girl walking in Moscow or Sochi is a bombshell.

It was DIFC but on steroids, and with so many different body types, breasts size, hair color, height, . So so many incredibly beautiful young girls, pure heaven. And they way they dress is always a sight to behold, and I'm not just talking about the slutty ones showing T&A, but it was just so stylish.

Of course I was there not just to look and I had prepared beforehand. I went with one or two different girl each day and the possibilities are "endless". At any time there are probably close to 2 k girls you can pick from, which, while not huge considering the size of Moscow, is way more than enough to choose from. At least in Moscow, in Sochi were only a few girls and only one answered and I managed to meet her. In Moscow, I went with a lot of different body-types girls, from the tiny amateur petite to the pro sport-girl with a huge ass to the BDSM ones. Very few fake tits from what I saw.

Prices are all over the place, starting at 30 euros all the way up to 700€ per hour at current Eur / Rub. But these are extremes that are useless. But surprisingly, at 60 euros you can already find some gems, including the last one I went to which had the most amazing natural tits on her 20 yo body. Unbelievable. Most of the "good" girls I would say are in the 100-150 euros bracket and there are a ton to choose from. The other higher end tier is between 200-250 for "elite girls" and you have some girls with absolutely unbelievable hot tits and ass. Then comes the 300 euros one for a few pro elite girls. That's a very affordable price for the really great talent they have. Pics and ads are 90% real, you're more likely to be a little bit surprised on the lower end. There was a tiny petite I was interested in for 70 euros / h. When I arrived there, the girl was different face wise but still pretty and the body matched the one from the other and the written "parameters" so I still enjoyed it and came back another day. Age specified can be exactly the one written or no more than 4-5 years more. Actually the admins of one major site have banned girls that were cheating, writing exactly that they shouldn't put more than 5 years younger.

Height wise, Russian girls are freaking tall. If you're looking for tiny petite, you'll have maybe the choice between 4-5 girls but if you're looking for super tall girls, no problem whatsoever.

Most of the time you'll be talking to a manager but they're not as stupid as the viet ones in Dubai so you will get what you asked for. The manager is not necessarily a handler, just someone they outsource the waste of time that is talking to client and trying to weed out the fake or dangerous ones.

The girls mostly either live next to the super convenient and cheap metro or they rent together an empty appartment they will direct you to. I've been many times in the same two commie-blocks LOL.

All in all, I'm already planning my next trip but for longer, unfortunately I won't be able to just enjoy girl-watch during the day as it's getting already super cold.

I'm attaching the pics of some girls I went with and their insanely hot bodies. These are directly from the websites so it's not me who took them.

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2860123]So my love for Russian girls being without limit and being tired of Dubai and the cost of everything in winter, I decided to head to Russia for 2 weeks with the new e-visa.

I'm attaching the pics of some girls I went with and their insanely hot bodies. These are directly from the websites so it's not me who took them.[/QUOTE]Very encouraging report. I'm also based in DXB and planning a trip here.

Some ads are real, some not. For the experiment I made whatsapp contact to 5 different girls, 2 answered (I was expecting that none would answer). From these 2 girls, surprisingly one was ready to meet. And she is super hot. And those 3 who did not answer had something in common (apart to the fact that they are also hot, at least in the pics): they didn't have any review on their profile. The 2 girls who answered actually had review / comments (Otzyvy) on her "wall". So, I understand that the chances for girl to be real if her wall is empty is quite low.

[QUOTE=Visal;2856384]Is this site real? I mean prices are cheaper as compared to others [URL]https://msk27.dosug-gid.net/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Hey guys, I'm planning to go back this December / January. Anyone there willing to join me?

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2868449]Hey guys, I'm planning to go back this December / January. Anyone there willing to join me?[/QUOTE]You are lucky to be traveling to Moscow, back in the day when I was hanging out in Moscow, I would be there during the winter months, what great times. Now I can not break away for long periods, so I stick with Mexico. I do not miss the flight, but I miss Moscow, what an amazing place.

Moscow has some great strip clubs like LE Rouge and Rasputin. Lots of girls on stage at the same time and even amazing food and drinks to make all encompassing.

What I'm wondering though is if there are any erotic massage parlours here with additional endings like BBBJ? The ones I've been to so far only have handjob ending. Would be great to hear thoughts.

[QUOTE=Raymando;2871163]Moscow has some great strip clubs like LE Rouge and Rasputin. Lots of girls on stage at the same time and even amazing food and drinks to make all encompassing.

What I'm wondering though is if there are any erotic massage parlours here with additional endings like BBBJ? The ones I've been to so far only have handjob ending. Would be great to hear thoughts.[/QUOTE]First I have to disagree on Rasputin. Imo a terrible club. I saw very few attractive girls and the one I went private with wouldn't even let me touch her tits. Wtf? For strip and basic hands on Golden Girls is 5 x better.

But if you are after BBBJ why not go to the real deal? Aurora, Penthouse, Angels and the Loft all have strip with on-site rooms for fucking the girls. If you want to stick to BBBJ you can of course. Just be clear up front. But def high recommend on these clubs (pre COVID / Ukraine). Angels Aurora and Penthouse are all inside the city loop and same guy owns them so you can take his car service between them.

Oh cool. I'm pretty new here but I was meaning to try Golden Girls. Yeah LE Rouge was a lot better than Rasputin. Is Goden Girls fully nude on the public stages or only in private? I'the definitely like to visit some more strip clubs if you know any where they are fully nude on the public stages.

Point taken about the strip clubs with rooms. But prices tend to be pretty high that way don't they? Like renting the room and stripper? I've found massage places to be a lot more cost effective and intimate I don't need full-on sex but of course need to release- nothing better than a BBBJ. But I like it fairly regularly so that's why I'the prefer something more cost effective than strip club and a bit safer than girl who is regularly doing everything.

Any ideas on massage parlours that give that happy ending here? Or another cost effective alternative?

Time here is amazing for everything for enjoyment Cheers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2871508]First I have to disagree on Rasputin. Imo a terrible club. I saw very few attractive girls and the one I went private with wouldn't even let me touch her tits. Wtf? For strip and basic hands on Golden Girls is 5 x better.

But if you are after BBBJ why not go to the real deal? Aurora, Penthouse, Angels and the Loft all have strip with on-site rooms for fucking the girls. If you want to stick to BBBJ you can of course. Just be clear up front. But def high recommend on these clubs (pre COVID / Ukraine). Angels Aurora and Penthouse are all inside the city loop and same guy owns them so you can take his car service between them.[/QUOTE]

I had shared a strip club report report 1,5 years ago here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=2677614&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2677614.

I noticed that some guys shared good reviews about the LE Rouge which I hadn't been before. After seeing those reviews I was surprised and thought "is there really a good strip club that I haven't visited in Moscow?

So I decided to begin my strip club tour with LE Rouge. The location of the club is unusual. It's on a backstreet. Secondly it's very small club with only one stage. Third they wanted to charge me 13,000 rubles at the entrance first, then they changed their minds and charged me 8,000 (3,000 for entrance+5,000 minimum deposit).

The girls were below than average and pushy. They were asking for tips in a disturbing way. I left the club after 15 minutes.

Thanks for the report man. Wow 13 k for, well basically watching girls. With this money theoretically it's possible to have sex with 2 different girls in 2 different salons. No need to pay for lap dance, deposit, entrance, drinks etc. I have the feeling that guys know exactly about it, they maybe some don't want sex at all, just the lapdance, the talking, the atmosphere of the strip club. Others just want the massage in a massage parlor, here too no sex. To each his own.
I remember once I was in a Russian salon (disguised as real sate agency) and finished too early. But I paid for one hour, and I never leave before the time is up, never ever, but just talking was boring so I asked if she can make a massage. She agreed (it's not her obligation, but if you are a nice guest and ask kindly most will do, specially if you did not fuck her yet). She was a blond one called Luda (or Liuda, I don't remember well). For my surprise the massage was so good that I got hard again and banged her again. And we are talking about a premise where there was no gorillas at the door looking down on you, in fact most salons don't have any security guy inside. I never saw one. Some times I saw one or 2 guys sitting in their car in front of the salons doing nothing (this was a bit strange), I don't know if it's connected. But I will wear my tin foil hat now: maybe they are there standby, just in case of something happens and the administrator pushes the panic button (if there is one). The last thing I want is to have a trouble with such types.

Last year I was in a salon called "Pride" and their primadona, Vika, very friendly girl came came to the room, brought her own small kolonka turned it own and just started to dance, without me even asking her to do so. It was so sexy. Basically a hot lapdance I didn't order but got it anyway. The sex was very nice that day, I even started to think to go to one of the strip clubs in town, but nah. By the way. One year on and my local buddy has been to her recently. She got some weight, but still hot as hell. But if you don't like mysterious tattoos, don't go to her. She's full of it. But she has the talent to be a stripper.

Oh nice, your prices sound decent Do you have any recommendations for any salons in Moscow?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2874478]Thanks for the report man. Wow 13 k for, well basically watching girls. With this money theoretically it's possible to have sex with 2 different girls in 2 different salons. No need to pay for lap dance, deposit, entrance, drinks etc. I have the feeling that guys know exactly about it, they maybe some don't want sex at all, just the lapdance, the talking, the atmosphere of the strip club. Others just want the massage in a massage parlor, here too no sex. To each his own.
I remember once I was in a Russian salon (disguised as real sate agency) and finished too early. But I paid for one hour, and I never leave before the time is up, never ever, but just talking was boring so I asked if she can make a massage. She agreed (it's not her obligation, but if you are a nice guest and ask kindly most will do, specially if you did not fuck her yet). She was a blond one called Luda (or Liuda, I don't remember well). For my surprise the massage was so good that I got hard again and banged her again. And we are talking about a premise where there was no gorillas at the door looking down on you, in fact most salons don't have any security guy inside. I never saw one. Some times I saw one or 2 guys sitting in their car in front of the salons doing nothing (this was a bit strange), I don't know if it's connected. But I will wear my tin foil hat now: maybe they are there standby, just in case of something happens and the administrator pushes the panic button (if there is one). The last thing I want is to have a trouble with such types..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Putologist;2874478]Thanks for the report man. Wow 13 k for, well basically watching girls. With this money theoretically it's possible to have sex with 2 different girls in 2 different salons. No need to pay for lap dance, deposit, entrance, drinks etc. I have the feeling that guys know exactly about it, they maybe some don't want sex at all, just the lapdance, the talking, the atmosphere of the strip club. Others just want the massage in a massage parlor, here too no sex. To each his own.
I remember once I was in a Russian salon (disguised as real sate agency) and finished too early. But I paid for one hour, and I never leave before the time is up, never ever, but just talking was boring so I asked if she can make a massage. She agreed (it's not her obligation, but if you are a nice guest and ask kindly most will do, specially if you did not fuck her yet). She was a blond one called Luda (or Liuda, I don't remember well). For my surprise the massage was so good that I got hard again and banged her again. And we are talking about a premise where there was no gorillas at the door looking down on you, in fact most salons don't have any security guy inside. I never saw one. Some times I saw one or 2 guys sitting in their car in front of the salons doing nothing (this was a bit strange), I don't know if it's connected. But I will wear my tin foil hat now: maybe they are there standby, just in case of something happens and the administrator pushes the panic button (if there is one). The last thing I want is to have a trouble with such types.

Last year I was in a salon called "Pride" and their primadona, Vika, very friendly girl came came to the room, brought her own small kolonka turned it own and just started to dance, without me even asking her to do so. It was so sexy. Basically a hot lapdance I didn't order but got it anyway. The sex was very nice that day, I even started to think to go to one of the strip clubs in town, but nah. By the way. One year on and my local buddy has been to her recently. She got some weight, but still hot as hell. But if you don't like mysterious tattoos, don't go to her. She's full of it. But she has the talent to be a stripper.[/QUOTE]Where is this Pride' Salon located?

Hi Everyone, Since I have benefited from this forum I also want to share my experiences. I have been in 2 strip clubs. Aurorara 911. Last time I was there I think 10 years ago. When I first enter there I was thinking that I am in a wrong place. It changed a lot. Priv. Dance 3000 rubles. I took 2 girls. Entrance 2500 rubles. Their performance was mediocre. No tit kissing. Touching allowed. Then I have figured out Virgins on Marksistkaya Street. It was amazing. 2500 rubles entrance fee. I have been there 2 times. Priv. Dance is 2500 Ruble for normal strippers and for student strippers 2000 ruble. Tit kissing DFK all possible in private room. All waitress and staff was very friendly. We have been there second time with 2 other friends. We reserved a nice table for 6000 deposit. We eat very nice foods. Nice strippers. Vodka. All amazing. After I returned my friends went to Notch. And they say the girls there was better. I also tried Vanilla Massage. (All can be found in google maps.) I was not happy there. The description of service isn't enough and the girl was not good. Maybe I picked the wrong girl. I don't know. GPS is a real problem. And we had a big difficulty in excnahge money since it was holiday. After a few days we figured out there are open exchange shops in Shopping centers till 10 pm. Try the underground shopping center near Red Square. Good rates. Hotel was really expensive we have changed 3 hotels due to price. Get ready for real freezing weather and provide all necessary equipment before you arrive. -31 see. It is not joke. One of my friend had a real danger because he finished all his money and had to wait outside with summer shoes. Also be carefull with Russian Airlines. They are very strict about hand luggage. Especially pabeda. I was in Gypsy club all pack with men. Freebie issue isn't easy. Russian girls are not as easy as you think. One night stand hard to hit. Play the dating game.

So I've been back for several weeks in Moscow.

Weather was a mix of really cool snow and beautiful decorations and miserable gray cloud with ice cold air and slush everywhere.

The quality of escorts in Moscow is the best on the planet (for me), no competition whatsoever. Whereelse can you fuck at 19-21 yo beuatiful gal for 60-100 euros? There are a ton of choices, and a ton of different prices, up to 400-500 euros if you wish so. And those girls are extra hot but so are the 50-100 girls. Max I paid was 150 and I never had to go higher.

I'm a very horny guy and I was fucking basically one to two girls each day for several weeks. I repeated some very hot girls 2-3 times but no more. I even went for a threesome two times for two very fit young slim "teenies" and I was pounding at them hard, for 160 euros. Damn.

There are a ton of choices in all categories, if you like bimbos with duck lips, giant ass, big fake boobs, tall to very tiny teeny natural miniature girls. Some of these tiny girls (1 m50-60,40-50 kg) had some of the most amazing tits I've handled and more than decent ass. I've nutted more times than I can count but I still want more. Most girls do outcall for a slighter bigger price but they almost all have deals to use some shared apartment (as in they book it for a certain time) so you end up going to two / three places very often. Other girls invite you to their home.

This time I did have several weird encounters, so it was not all smooth sailing but I'd say it was 5 or 6 times at most so just a blip on the radar. In the end, it's only 60-100 euros so I just let go when things were going weird. Fucking so much, sometimes I just couldn't get hard but again, at that price point, it wasn't such a big deal. It would have been if it was the 300-400 euros gals obviously.

Some of the girls never replies if you have a foreign number so it's a bit annoying when you're trying to meet a really beautiful one. I've only had one girl flak on me but they're not always on time. But they all and I mean all use a timer so there is that. Also a lot of them are clean freaks which is good in a way but can be a bit annoying.

This time I was almost never asked for prepayments. I did had two bad experiences. One was a girl who asked for prepayment of 50 euros (half) but then 2 min before the meet, pretended she couldn't meet but then stopped writing and didn't return the money. I contacted the support and they banned her immediately. Another girl agreed on meeting early afternoon but then kept pushing back the time to later at night. And then she reminded me that later at night was more expensive. I told her I didn't agree to that and she was the one who pushed it back to that time and she went full bonkers that I was dumb as a kid and whatnot. These little girls are something else. Still she returned the money so I don't care too much.

All in all, an amazing time.

Hi Guys!

This is my first time in Moscow and I'd love for the experienced members here to give me some guidance.

How do I find some hot English speaking girls? It' going to be a short 4 day work trip. Please help!

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2889103]So I've been back for several weeks in Moscow.

Weather was a mix of really cool snow and beautiful decorations and miserable gray cloud with ice cold air and slush everywhere.

The quality of escorts in Moscow is the best on the planet (for me), no competition whatsoever. Whereelse can you fuck at 19-21 yo beuatiful gal for 60-100 euros? There are a ton of choices, and a ton of different prices, up to 400-500 euros if you wish so. And those girls are extra hot but so are the 50-100 girls. Max I paid was 150 and I never had to go higher.

I'm a very horny guy and I was fucking basically one to two girls each day for several weeks. I repeated some very hot girls 2-3 times but no more. I even went for a threesome two times for two very fit young slim "teenies" and I was pounding at them hard, for 160 euros. Damn.

There are a ton of choices in all categories, if you like bimbos with duck lips, giant ass, big fake boobs, tall to very tiny teeny natural miniature girls. Some of these tiny girls (1 m50-60,40-50 kg) had some of the most amazing tits I've handled and more than decent ass. I've nutted more times than I can count but I still want more. Most girls do outcall for a slighter bigger price but they almost all have deals to use some shared apartment (as in they book it for a certain time) so you end up going to two / three places very often. Other girls invite you to their home.

This time I did have several weird encounters, so it was not all smooth sailing but I'd say it was 5 or 6 times at most so just a blip on the radar. In the end, it's only 60-100 euros so I just let go when things were going weird. Fucking so much, sometimes I just couldn't get hard but again, at that price point, it wasn't such a big deal. It would have been if it was the 300-400 euros gals obviously.

Some of the girls never replies if you have a foreign number so it's a bit annoying when you're trying to meet a really beautiful one. I've only had one girl flak on me but they're not always on time. But they all and I mean all use a timer so there is that. Also a lot of them are clean freaks which is good in a way but can be a bit annoying.

This time I was almost never asked for prepayments. I did had two bad experiences. One was a girl who asked for prepayment of 50 euros (half) but then 2 min before the meet, pretended she couldn't meet but then stopped writing and didn't return the money. I contacted the support and they banned her immediately. Another girl agreed on meeting early afternoon but then kept pushing back the time to later at night. And then she reminded me that later at night was more expensive. I told her I didn't agree to that and she was the one who pushed it back to that time and she went full bonkers that I was dumb as a kid and whatnot. These little girls are something else. Still she returned the money so I don't care too much.

All in all, an amazing time.[/QUOTE]Sounds amazing. What website / agency were you using to find these girls?

Feedback would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2889103]One was a girl who asked for prepayment of 50 euros (half) but then 2 min before the meet, pretended she couldn't meet but then stopped writing and didn't return the money. I contacted the support and they banned her immediately. Another girl agreed on meeting early afternoon but then kept pushing back the time to later at night. And then she reminded me that later at night was more expensive. I told her I didn't agree to that and she was the one who pushed it back to that time and she went full bonkers that I was dumb as a kid and whatnot. These little girls are something else. Still she returned the money so I don't care too much.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the nice report. In my experience a lot of the hottest girls do ask for prepayment, and for outcall they at least expect you to pay for their taxi in advance by ordering it, but currently non-Russian cards don't work at all in Russia, so how did you manage to transfer them money? Also, it would be very helpful for everyone if you would add some links to the profiles of the girls, or at least tell us which site you found them on.

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2889103]So I've been back for several weeks in Moscow.

Weather was a mix of really cool snow and beautiful decorations and miserable gray cloud with ice cold air and slush everywhere.

The quality of escorts in Moscow is the best on the planet (for me), no competition whatsoever. Whereelse can you fuck at 19-21 yo beuatiful gal for 60-100 euros? There are a ton of choices, and a ton of different prices, up to 400-500 euros if you wish so. And those girls are extra hot but so are the 50-100 girls. Max I paid was 150 and I never had to go higher.

I'm a very horny guy and I was fucking basically one to two girls each day for several weeks. I repeated some very hot girls 2-3 times but no more. I even went for a threesome two times for two very fit young slim "teenies" and I was pounding at them hard, for 160 euros. Damn.

There are a ton of choices in all categories, if you like bimbos with duck lips, giant ass, big fake boobs, tall to very tiny teeny natural miniature girls. Some of these tiny girls (1 m50-60,40-50 kg) had some of the most amazing tits I've handled and more than decent ass. I've nutted more times than I can count but I still want more. Most girls do outcall for a slighter bigger price but they almost all have deals to use some shared apartment (as in they book it for a certain time) so you end up going to two / three places very often. Other girls invite you to their home.

This time I did have several weird encounters, so it was not all smooth sailing but I'd say it was 5 or 6 times at most so just a blip on the radar. In the end, it's only 60-100 euros so I just let go when things were going weird. Fucking so much, sometimes I just couldn't get hard but again, at that price point, it wasn't such a big deal. It would have been if it was the 300-400 euros gals obviously.

Some of the girls never replies if you have a foreign number so it's a bit annoying when you're trying to meet a really beautiful one. I've only had one girl flak on me but they're not always on time. But they all and I mean all use a timer so there is that. Also a lot of them are clean freaks which is good in a way but can be a bit annoying.

This time I was almost never asked for prepayments. I did had two bad experiences. One was a girl who asked for prepayment of 50 euros (half) but then 2 min before the meet, pretended she couldn't meet but then stopped writing and didn't return the money. I contacted the support and they banned her immediately. Another girl agreed on meeting early afternoon but then kept pushing back the time to later at night. And then she reminded me that later at night was more expensive. I told her I didn't agree to that and she was the one who pushed it back to that time and she went full bonkers that I was dumb as a kid and whatnot. These little girls are something else. Still she returned the money so I don't care too much.

All in all, an amazing time.[/QUOTE]Trying to PM you but your inbox is full (understandably so). Please clear your inbox so that I can reach out to you.

Regards,

SC.

[QUOTE=Ragnaros;2889781]Thank you for the nice report. In my experience a lot of the hottest girls do ask for prepayment, and for outcall they at least expect you to pay for their taxi in advance by ordering it, but currently non-Russian cards don't work at all in Russia, so how did you manage to transfer them money? Also, it would be very helpful for everyone if you would add some links to the profiles of the girls, or at least tell us which site you found them on.[/QUOTE]I'm not sharing the link here as they're having a lot of downtime from attacks and webhoster taking them down. I'll hapilly share by MP.

Yes the "higher end" girls ask for prepayment, sometimes even the whole amount but I'm perfectly happy with the 5000-15000 rubles girls as they are as hot as the other one, just further away / less marketed. And these usually don't necessarily ask.

You couldn't even do it before as it's a Russian internal thing anyway so this never worked with foreign cards. For some reason, Tinkoff allows foreign tourists to get a Russian card. It's pretty easy no hassle and they have good english speaking staff. But since it got sanctionned you can't transfer from abroad but you can still deposit cash in a Tinkoff ATM which are plenty enough.

I have contact details for one salon based in central Moscow which I used when I was there before the war. It has selection of very talented girls working there. I can share details with contributing members on PM. Regards.

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2895234]I have contact details for one salon based in central Moscow which I used when I was there before the war. It has selection of very talented girls working there. I can share details with contributing members on PM. Regards.[/QUOTE]What's the name of this salon? Prices? Does it have a website to see the girls?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2895680]What's the name of this salon? Prices? Does it have a website to see the girls?[/QUOTE]Most salons, brothels, agencies, etc have moved away from websites. Now they mostly share pictures on TG or Whatsapp, which is much better as you get the real ones and because it's less publicly available, they can provide pictures with faces and even videos.

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2889103]So I've been back for several weeks in Moscow.

Weather was a mix of really cool snow and beautiful decorations and miserable gray cloud with ice cold air and slush everywhere.

The quality of escorts in Moscow is the best on the planet (for me), no competition whatsoever. Whereelse can you fuck at 19-21 yo beuatiful gal for 60-100 euros? There are a ton of choices, and a ton of different prices, up to 400-500 euros if you wish so. And those girls are extra hot but so are the 50-100 girls. Max I paid was 150 and I never had to go higher..[/QUOTE]Hello very good report I'm traveling next week can I have where did you find those girl sorry for my English.

I have a general question. One of my life's dreams is sex with a beautiful blonde and apparently Russia is the prime location for that.

However my question is: How passionate are Russian sex workers? For me passion is half the experience, the other half being her looks.

I've had some amazing experiences with South American girls. Regarding Eastern Europe, I met one nice 21 year old Ukrainian girl in Athens. Her attitude was ok, however nothing exciting.

I have the impression that in certain societies age gap relationships are more commonplace while in other cultures such as Eastern Europe it's not acceptable.

I am 63, handsome for my age but nevertheless old. My goal is a beautiful blonde 18 to 25.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2897688]I have a general question. One of my life's dreams is sex with a beautiful blonde and apparently Russia is the prime location for that.

However my question is: How passionate are Russian sex workers? For me passion is half the experience, the other half being her looks.

I've had some amazing experiences with South American girls. Regarding Eastern Europe, I met one nice 21 year old Ukrainian girl in Athens. Her attitude was ok, however nothing exciting.

I have the impression that in certain societies age gap relationships are more commonplace while in other cultures such as Eastern Europe it's not acceptable.

I am 63, handsome for my age but nevertheless old. My goal is a beautiful blonde 18 to 25.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/DI44EnaJVx8?si=MmLEHQqpDSGmWzwv[/URL]

That's a toss. Your personality, sense of humor, some gifts and cash do their magic. You should not be perceived as stingy bu as a gentleman that would part with every earthly possession for a night with her. I would add maybe three years to your age bracket.

But it all depends on your chemistry. If you plan on a hit and run I'd say don't expect much. If you have the time / money to see a girl several times and can convince her you're worth some emotion then maybe. Don't box yourself in, Russians are slavs. Head west to Czech Republic and Poland inclusive and any countries between all have slav girls just as hot as anything I've seen in Moscow or St Petersburg.

I've got a slav fetish and I consider myself a bit of an expert by now. All you need is time and money and they all come around sooner or later. I was in Lviv, Ukraine and saw a drop dead gorgeous 20 something holdings hands with a 55+ Japanese or Korean gentleman. This was in the middle of the day so he didn't just pick her up at a club or off some corner. When I saw that I knew all things are possible. I didn't have any luck in Lviv (didn't have the time) but I had plenty in Kyiv. I'd say age is irrelevant if you're reasonably presentable to attractive.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2897688]I have a general question. One of my life's dreams is sex with a beautiful blonde and apparently Russia is the prime location for that.

However my question is: How passionate are Russian sex workers? For me passion is half the experience, the other half being her looks.

I've had some amazing experiences with South American girls. Regarding Eastern Europe, I met one nice 21 year old Ukrainian girl in Athens. Her attitude was ok, however nothing exciting.

I have the impression that in certain societies age gap relationships are more commonplace while in other cultures such as Eastern Europe it's not acceptable.

I am 63, handsome for my age but nevertheless old. My goal is a beautiful blonde 18 to 25.[/QUOTE]

Thank you so much for the feedback!

Even though I have my blonde fantasy, I think I might try the Philippines for my next vacation. I have a limited budget. It sounds like a filipina might be 25% less beautiful than an eastern European (obviously that's just my personal taste; everybody has their own thing) but 100% more passionate, meaning on the balance filipinas might be a better deal for me. Depending on how well or not well the Philippines works out, I will give eastern or central Europe a shot the next time around.

By the way, of course there is no way to read a woman's mind or even to know for sure if she orgasmed, however by "passion" I mean that I am convinced that she really liked the sex. She might be just a great actress but that's good enough for me.

I have been to Ukraine 3 times and so I have 3 stamps of Ukraine visits on my passport. I heard some tourists were deported or rejected entry into Russia as they had visited Ukraine once. I am planning to visit Russia now and so a bit worried if I will face such issue.

How is the mongering scene now after sanctions? Ofcourse the ATMs will give some trouble.

Also, I heard Russia now lets everyone open a bank account as Visa and Mastercard are not working in Russia after the sanctions. Can you transfer funds to that newly opened Russian bank account?

IMO mongering in general did not change much under sanctions. I saw less Westerners, but more Asian / Latin / African tourists. So, it's more or less the same, just the origins are different. Covid had more impact in people's life.

About banking: I don't think it's possible to transfer Western funds to a Russian Visa / Mastercard / Mir account. It's not connected to SWIFT anymore as far as I remember.

Canadian homie of mine did like this: he brought US $ , changed into RUB upon arrival in Russia and made deposit into this "debit bank account for tourists" that you are referring to. This way he had a fully functioning payment card to use in Russia. Why is this a big deal: In some cities when you enter the bus / trolley / tram they have the terminal that only accepts contact less payment, as far as I remember, later the ticket inspector comes with her device and check in the system if you paid by scanning your card. But sometimes she does not show up.

To enter the metro, you can also use your Russian bank card (better than to stay in line at Kassa for a paper ticket).

[QUOTE=Visal;2901970]I have been to Ukraine 3 times and so I have 3 stamps of Ukraine visits on my passport. I heard some tourists were deported or rejected entry into Russia as they had visited Ukraine once. I am planning to visit Russia now and so a bit worried if I will face such issue.

How is the mongering scene now after sanctions? Ofcourse the ATMs will give some trouble.

Also, I heard Russia now lets everyone open a bank account as Visa and Mastercard are not working in Russia after the sanctions. Can you transfer funds to that newly opened Russian bank account?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Visal;2901970]I have been to Ukraine 3 times and so I have 3 stamps of Ukraine visits on my passport. I heard some tourists were deported or rejected entry into Russia as they had visited Ukraine once. I am planning to visit Russia now and so a bit worried if I will face such issue.
[/QUOTE]This will depend on when did you go there, the passport you hold as well as what was the purpose and length of your stay in Ukraine. Did you go on business / company visa or tourist / entry on arrival visa. Get your story straight before you land there. They gave me lot of headache when I landed there few months before this ongoing war / smo.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2902016]IMO mongering in general did not change much under sanctions. I saw less Westerners, but more Asian / Latin / African tourists. So, it's more or less the same, just the origins are different. Covid had more impact in people's life.

About banking: I don't think it's possible to transfer Western funds to a Russian Visa / Mastercard / Mir account. It's not connected to SWIFT anymore as far as I remember.

Canadian homie of mine did like this: he brought US $ , changed into RUB upon arrival in Russia and made deposit into this "debit bank account for tourists" that you are referring to. This way he had a fully functioning payment card to use in Russia. Why is this a big deal: In some cities when you enter the bus / trolley / tram they have the terminal that only accepts contact less payment, as far as I remember, later the ticket inspector comes with her device and check in the system if you paid by scanning your card. But sometimes she does not show up.

To enter the metro, you can also use your Russian bank card (better than to stay in line at Kassa for a paper ticket).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!

Can you tell me the average prices for girls in Moscow? Any top website to check the prices and girls?

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2902262]This will depend on when did you go there, the passport you hold as well as what was the purpose and length of your stay in Ukraine. Did you go on business / company visa or tourist / entry on arrival visa. Get your story straight before you land there. They gave me lot of headache when I landed there few months before this ongoing war / smo.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!

Can you tell me the average prices for girls in Moscow? Any top website to check the prices and girls?

I know that in India some of us have met russian working girls and experiences tend to be mixed but I'm just curious if anyone of us has ever been to Russia and mongered there.

How was your overall experience? What was your budget? Were the working girls prettier and much younger than the russian ones you typically find in India? Did the communication barrier made it significantly difficult to meet them or are they reluctant to meet Indians? How was their behaviour with an Indian and overall did you find the experience with the working girls there to be positive and safe?

Would be great if experienced mongers who have been there could share their insight.

[QUOTE=Visal;2906279]Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!

Can you tell me the average prices for girls in Moscow? Any top website to check the prices and girls?[/QUOTE]I paid around 100 $/ HR few years back, all girls have different prices at the salon. I'm not aware of current prices but at Putologist can update you on that and with some telegram channels. But what I would like to mention is that I didn't see any 'original fake' women in Moscow or for that matter any other cities including St P. Most women were 100 % natural born female! This experience is vastly different to some EU cities these days unfortunately.

Moscow field report. April 2024 (6 days of exploring).

I have seen many debate the status of Moscow as a mongering destination. Some praising it to the point of utopia. Some stating its mid or even mediocre. Since I am an avid CIS seeker, I finally decided to pull the trigger and observe the scene with my own eyes.

If I have to categorize Mongering scene in Moscow it will be something along this line.

-Indie local sites such as intimicity.

-Escort agencies.

-Strip clubs.

-Erotic message spas.

-Dating / sugar daddying via apps.

-Finding a nonpro hookup from a bar / club / cafe.

Since I didn't attempt the latter two, I can't comment on the scene.

Indie local websites:

I didn't do major research in this field. Did attempt some watsapp / telegram messages. Mostly no response, or ghosting after saying Hi or asking for pre-payment. I was using a foreigner number probably that didn't help. I regret I didn't do further attempts, but that's for the next visit, I'm sure mongering in Moscow is elevated to excellent level from those sites.

WG via Agency:

I came across multiple agencies that promote ladies, most of them agreed for no pre-payment after understanding bank card situation (sanctions etc.), I was only asking for outcalls for 2 hours, prices are around 25 k-40 k (+1 to 2 k for taxi) for that duration, with few outliers both ways. I was using google translate, but I am sure most will respond to English. Services include protected sex, OWO, kissing (DFK), DATY, most allow COB with basic price. Extra are to be found. The girls were within good standerds optic / service wise. Only once faced bait and switch, otherwise you get what you ask for. Most of them work in telegram, and having channels to promote the ladies working with prices up front. Most agencies that I contacted shared similar WG with other agencies around 60-70% so that mildly hindered the selection, overall what was available was more than enough but still a larger selection would be appreciated further, and probably many agencies I didn't even come across, so imo agencies by themselves can be more than enough if you seek once or twice meetup / day. And the 25-30 k WG is similar in price to most good looking indies, so I think it was a fair price. I stayed in one of the Radisson, it was green allowing me to invite however number of WG as long as I pick the ladies from reception (without asking for ID for the guest).

Stripclubs:

I ventured into Angel / Haunters / Notch.

As stated prior. They are owned by the same businessman so prices / structure is the same in all of them, with difference in decoration / setup only and the talents ofcourse. ID say its a good time if you don't mind wasting some rubles. Very safe, controlled enviroment. Sex can be had, but I never asked for it, and I was never pressured for private dance or sex. I tipped with 200 when a stripper shakes her barebutt on me for half a minute, and never noticed a bad look, and always was thanked and they move on, and many come back later for another dance. Tried shisha at haunters and tbh it was super, really enjoyed it, and since the ladies arent allowed to smoke cig / vape in the main area (only allowed to smoke in private premises like the changing room), so you can gather many ladies on you to smoke shisha as its the only allowed method to smoke for the ladies in the strip club, and they came like hoards LOL. It might be YMMV, but I found the bar ladies / waitress in general to have better optics than strippers. Did enjoy the company of bar ladies for 2 k fee for 15 min, they chat and you can touch, and after they leave they serve you later on with a happy smile. Other crazy menu stuff are to be offered but didn't entice me. Overall its worth visiting as its unique in a way, its one of the few strip clubs in the world with almost zero scams, sex can be had if you are willing to pay, and if sex wasnt your thing (like me) the atmosphere is fun to rest between rounds from indies / escorts.

Erotic spa:

I checked out Vanilia / Soho (both same management) and Malvina. Vanilia / Soho were much more elegant and looks luxury compared to Malvina. All 3 erotic spa offered good service. The beauty standards of erotic spa is way better than strip clubs (again it might YMMV) but what I saw there is no competition. Anyways I tried some erotic message, with sakura, imitation of oral, shower with lady, didn't try urological (not my cup of tea), and handjob is offered (?tangem) but I declined it as I thought releasing from handjob is a waste of cum. The ladies were elegant, they truly act like lady-like, soft, tender, and really trying to make you leave with a good memory, non rushed service. The managers respond via telegram for appointment and to guide you to location and they were all professionals. Also they inform you who is working and send you some pics to help you decide. When I arrive I see at least around 8 WG and probably there is more if I ask for others. Since I visited 3 times their establishment I got offered free vodka shots as a thank you. I spent 8 k / hour. Malvina wasn't bad too, but yeah the former 2 were more elite.

The city was a scene to be had, walking around in the city and getting lost in it and just walking for hours was enjoyable. The traffic is shit tho. Yandex does miracle for taxi prices, always go yandex. Stopping a taxi the old way will probably lead to 10 x inflated price. The internet sometimes goes crazy in the center of the city which can lead to significant malfunction of yandex maps / google maps. Never had any issue with safety. Airports easy to get into and out of, didn't face big lines, or difficulty in navigating the airport.

Tldr. Mongering first time for a non-Russian speaking person like myself isn't hard. There are plenty of choice for mongering. I wouldn't say its utopia, nor it was bad. Its good worth trying maybe once or twice a year me. Its more worth it if you want to stay for long term to explore indies and non-pro. But for a tourist like myself interested for a short trip which is 6 h away from Moscow by airplane, I have many options near me that can do the job.

Will I repeat Moscow? Definitely yes even though it wasn't as perfect as I thought it would have been.

[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2908964]Moscow field report. April 2024 (6 days of exploring).

I have seen many debate the status of Moscow as a mongering destination. Some praising it to the point of utopia. Some stating its mid or even mediocre. Since I am an avid CIS seeker, I finally decided to pull the trigger and observe the scene with my own eyes.

If I have to categorize Mongering scene in Moscow it will be something along this line.

-Indie local sites such as intimicity.

-Escort agencies.

-Strip clubs.

-Erotic message spas.

-Dating / sugar daddying via apps.

-Finding a nonpro hookup from a bar / club / cafe.

Since I didn't attempt the latter two, I can't comment on the scene.

Indie local websites[/QUOTE]Wow! Sounds like fun! I miss Moscow so much, Moscow was paradise for me! I am not sure if I will ever go back, I am having too much fun in CDMX and MTY, but I miss the Moscow night life.

Just curious, how much were you paying for girls?

I am jealous, great report.

Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2909134]Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.[/QUOTE]Does "relief" mean sex or handjob?

Were the girls Russian?

Nice report, thanks!

The restaurant you mean is "BRON" at patriki by the Novikov Group?! Nice restaurant, they opened few years ago. For my pocket it's quite expensive. In the weekend is always full, specially in the evening. A small place. So, often people wait outside ha ha 'so where is the fucking crisis? I ask myself'. But the food is good. by the way Novikov has some good restaurants all over Russia. For chasing freebies the entire Patriki area is perfect, I think only New Arbat can beat it. But you have to dress up, it's high end area like Iceberg wrote. Or just seat on the grass at the pounds after lunch and watch the white swans playing, while drinking a cup of coffee. Priceless. There is BTW a place right across the street called Keanu- There are some low-key WGs there after 23:00. Enter, smile around, and the girls who smile back is either wg or you got the freebie jackpot (if she is top ofc) ha ha just kidding. I went there just for drink and flirting. Before that I ate at Belarusskaya International Eat Market, where the prices are cheaper and you have more options of food, plus not overcrowded like the pounds. But the Patriki is superb, and I think this summer it will be more popular due to the movie "master and Margarita". It will be a hot summer. Trivia: It's not "bro" like brother. It's because it's at Malaya Bro-nnaya street (as mentioned by Bulgakov).

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2909134]Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Putologist;2909214]Nice report, thanks!

The restaurant you mean is "BRON" at patriki by the Novikov Group?! Nice restaurant, they opened few years ago. For my pocket it's quite expensive. In the weekend is always full, specially in the evening. A small place. So, often people wait outside ha ha 'so where is the fucking crisis? I ask myself'. But the food is good. by the way Novikov has some good restaurants all over Russia. For chasing freebies the entire Patriki area is perfect, I think only New Arbat can beat it. But you have to dress up, it's high end area like Iceberg wrote. Or just seat on the grass at the pounds after lunch and watch the white swans playing, while drinking a cup of coffee. Priceless. There is BTW a place right across the street called Keanu- There are some low-key WGs there after 23:00. Enter, smile around, and the girls who smile back is either wg or you got the freebie jackpot (if she is top ofc) ha ha just kidding. I went there just for drink and flirting. Before that I ate at Belarusskaya International Eat Market, where the prices are cheaper and you have more options of food, plus not overcrowded like the pounds. But the Patriki is superb, and I think this summer it will be more popular due to the movie "master and Margarita". It will be a hot summer. Trivia: It's not "bro" like brother. It's because it's at Malaya Bro-nnaya street (as mentioned by Bulgakov).[/QUOTE]My pleasure. It is BRO&. First letter of Nebraska. Automatic correction is a real trouble. They have several brances around the city. Always crowded. I have enjoyed patricki very well. Also Keanu and others. Understand you very well. I am really sad I couldn't spend so much time for WGs. I believe that there are very nice choices for 50-100 Eur band. When you go standard way you usually get 150-200 USD per hour which is the average all around the world.

Oh I thought it's BRON because the name of the street, sorry my bad. Yes, it's a nice place (but personally I only know this one at Patriki), I went there with a date once, ate pizza and drank red wine. In Russia we guys are supposed to pay, there is no alternative, so I was impressed with the bill, but played cool, which paid off later ha ha. But still lower than Aist which is some meters down the street. But also a nice place. Both inside the "Garden Ring" like the entire Patriki. But by crossing over to the other side, in general the prices go down a bit (as far as I remember), specially restaurants and shops. In the Barrikadnya area (which is already off the ring) also a place to visit, it's the area of the zoo, planetarium etc. The old school expats remember a club there called "the real mccoy". Legendary place, I heard some hot stories about it. But they closed long time ago. The times changed. There is however a club called "Plan be" which used to be "Tikki bar", also a lot of freebies there, free entrance but face control (like in almost all clubs in Moscow) , just wear a decent outfit and you are free to go. Moscow is a nice city to visit.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2909312]My pleasure. It is BRO&. First letter of Nebraska. Automatic correction is a real trouble. They have several brances around the city. Always crowded. I have enjoyed patricki very well. Also Keanu and others. Understand you very well. I am really sad I couldn't spend so much time for WGs. I believe that there are very nice choices for 50-100 Eur band. When you go standard way you usually get 150-200 USD per hour which is the average all around the world.[/QUOTE]

Oh I forgot to mention "Margarita" right in front of Bron. Sometimes there is live music there, but it is in fact just a restaurant. Not a bad place, but small too (as usual in the Patriki), so sometimes quite crowded, at least when I was there last time. But this can also be a good sign, showing that it is popular. The food was great.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2909330]Oh I thought it's BRON because the name of the street, sorry my bad. Yes, it's a nice place (but personally I only know this one at Patriki), I went there with a date once, ate pizza and drank red wine. In Russia we guys are supposed to pay, there is no alternative, so I was impressed with the bill, but played cool, which paid off later ha ha. But still lower than Aist which is some meters down the street. But also a nice place. Both inside the "Garden Ring" like the entire Patriki. But by crossing over to the other side, in general the prices go down a bit (as far as I remember), specially restaurants and shops. In the Barrikadnya area (which is already off the ring) also a place to visit, it's the area of the zoo, planetarium etc. The old school expats remember a club there called "the real mccoy". Legendary place, I heard some hot stories about it. But they closed long time ago. The times changed. There is however a club called "Plan be" which used to be "Tikki bar", also a lot of freebies there, free entrance but face control (like in almost all clubs in Moscow) , just wear a decent outfit and you are free to go. Moscow is a nice city to visit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2909209]Does "relief" mean sex or handjob?

Were the girls Russian?[/QUOTE]Handjob. Girl was russian. You can see nice videos of girls in their telegram channel.

I see a lot of websites with "massage" services in Moscow and the girls in the photos are in sexy lingerie and I wonder if these are massage-only salons or salons with sexual services (brothels) like the salons we find in St Petersburg. Does anybody now?

Thank you.

Officially they are not allowed to offer "more" than massage. Moscow is more monitored by the police than Piter for obvious reasons. Now, I know for a fact that some of these massage places also offer unofficial hand and blow jobs. Penetrations however I was never offered (and didn't ask for), but who knows. I mean, if you speak some Russian and are willing to negotiate (Davayte dogovorimsya).

What happens within these four walls, nobody knows (in principle). If you like her and she likes you, just ask. But IMO this will be an expensive additional service that will have to be paid in cash.

Maybe somebody here in the forum made this experience, and can report.

[QUOTE=Savsiem;2911574]I see a lot of websites with "massage" services in Moscow and the girls in the photos are in sexy lingerie and I wonder if these are massage-only salons or salons with sexual services (brothels) like the salons we find in St Petersburg. Does anybody now?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Putologist;2912205]Officially they are not allowed to offer "more" than massage. Moscow is more monitored by the police than Piter for obvious reasons. Now, I know for a fact that some of these massage places also offer unofficial hand and blow jobs. Penetrations however I was never offered (and didn't ask for), but who knows. I mean, if you speak some Russian and are willing to negotiate (Davayte dogovorimsya).

What happens within these four walls, nobody knows (in principle). If you like her and she likes you, just ask. But IMO this will be an expensive additional service that will have to be paid in cash.

Maybe somebody here in the forum made this experience, and can report.[/QUOTE]Thank you, sir, for the answer. Greatly appreciated.

Exactly as I thought it would be. I do speak some basic russian, but the thing is that I do not want to ask for things that they were not intended to do. If I find myself there, I will make some calls and if it is clear from their answers that they do it, I will go, if not, I will not.

That difference between Piter and Moscow makes me always choose Piter in the end.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2909134]Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.[/QUOTE]IS that you Tucker? Glad you did more than visit Auchan and interview Putin. LOL. JK Bro. Glad you had a good time.

Hi guys,

Moscow is an amazing city with lots of beautiful women just about everywhere.

One thing that I'm not sure is so common here is just to be able to pay for a BBBJ, or even better a massage with a BBBJ ending. This really makes the experience for me, but in strip clubs, or other places it seems that a BBBJ will only come at the same price as full sex, even if you don't want the full sex.

Any thoughts on where they just do a BBBJ, or an erotic massage with a BBBJ ending would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

Hi,

I am planning to visit Moscow and St Petersburg in August for purpose of mongering. I need guide for first couple of days to show us mongering spots or least help us on phone.

Please recommend me guide.

[QUOTE=Jay1221;2925228]Hi,

I am planning to visit Moscow and St Petersburg in August for purpose of mongering. I need guide for first couple of days to show us mongering spots or least help us on phone.

Please recommend me guide.[/QUOTE]Did you get your guide. Please share what you have and PM me, I will give you the link of a guide I found online. I am also doing the same research for my trip.

Disclaimer: This visit was pre-Covid so not positive all three clubs are still open or quality of girls. But I def suggest you checkout Angels Aurora Penthouse strip clubs. Moscow is unique that strip club and brothel are basically combined. It's amazing. Here's how it went down a few years back.

Moscow Trifecta -- Aurora, Angels, Penthouse.

A couple years later I was back in Moscow and by now I have the drill down pat. Aurora, Penthouse, and Angels are all super similar and inside the city loop or nearly so, so these are easiest to get to. I call this the Moscow Trifecta. Last time I had visited the Trifecta, but had not done the Trifecta, having failed to pull an Aurora girl. This time, I thought I'the give a fully consummated Trifecta a shot. I was not disappointed.

Oh before I get any farther a few important pro tips. First, if you go on their website there is a free entry code. You simply say it to the hostess and bam, you save the R2000 ($30 ish) entry. Did this all three nights — they did not change the code — and saved nearly $100. Sweet!

Second, apparently rooms are discounted 50% - R3000 ($40+) before 10 PM, which is not small change either. They open at nine. I did not know about this discount, nor expect to session before 10 but when you read encounter 3, you will see that I did and for good reason.

Third, like anywhere else, you can negotiate services with the girl. For some reason, this didn't occur to me till I had two CBJs; but it proved epically important in encounter three.

Aurora. JLo Look-alike Inga.

OK back to Aurora. I rolled in around 11, said "Brandy" (the passcode) to the hostess and was given free entry and a seat at the bar. Be forewarned that mixers and spirits are priced separately. So Jack is R650 and coke R500. It adds up over an evening. I settle in and scan the action. It was not explicitly stated, but when I have come in the past, the barmaids, waitresses and hostesses are equally available. So I scan all three in addition to the gogo hotties.

Of course I am sampling the dancers as they come by to offer me the lap dance, that I am tipping an apparently generous $3 for. And after a couple hours of this, I ended up getting danced on by a girl named Inga. Her face looks like Jennifer Lopez but super skinny and with a thinner, high cheekbones face. Clearly 30 ish but a ton of fun and good English. I tell her to come see me later and sure enough she is back later in a sexy black dress. She joins me and we talk quite a bit. Eventually we discuss price, which is R12000 for the girl and R6000 for the room. This appears to be standard, because it's exactly what all three girls at the three different clubs offered.

So I pay the waitress 6000 (this you could put on a card it seems) and she takes our drinks on a little tray and takes us to the room. I would say of the three clubs the Aurora room was the least nice, but still very nice. Generally high end and well mirrored with the bathroom down a notch from the other two. Still, nicer than 90% of the rooms you might come across in your career.

The in-room experience was about as expected with a very experienced girl. The CBJ surprised me a bit but I didn't protest (probably could have). And she is otherwise a wildcat. It was really all about fucking a whole lot and in various positions. A new one for me was me on knees, her legs over my shoulders and her fucking the hell out of me from the bottom.

Possibly the most interesting part of the visit was pillow talk and discussing her condoms vs mine. I'the brought Skyn which are not bad for a US brand. She'the brought purple-package Durex and had insisted on those. Afterwards she said that she and these other girls had executed a test of 8 different brands using the best blowjobber in the group and several guys and found that one to be best. We busted open one of hers and one of mine and compared and sure enough hers felt thinner / better (I was too spent for a dick-based test).

All in all a nice first experience this time in Russia. But each one was successively better.

Penthouse. Mid-eastern Hottie Anastasia.

The next night it was Penthouse. Penthouse is in a real toney part of the city with a nice bar / restaurant next door that was still hopping when I exited at 2 AM.

Arrived 10:30 or eleven I suppose. And again said "Brandy" and went straight in for free. I decided to get a couch and table at R3000 which was really nice. Actually got same one as two years ago! Got a Jack and Coke and settled in.

Of course the usual parade of girls grinding on me for R200 each. The couch is really nice for this or for other girls who may approach to chat. Worth the R3000 I'the say. Now in addition to the Gogo dancers and waitresses I notice other beautiful ladies in short tight cocktail dress roaming. I think these are dancers with a wait for their shift. Anyhow they look super nice.

There is one lovely Asian girl in a sparkly black dress but I never seem to catch her eye. I even stalk her to the back bar area but she is always engaged with some Asian dude. (I think I was literally the only round eye in the place — not sure what was going on that night). I see another gorgeous girl in a beige / silver sparkle dress and have my eye on her.

I forgot to mention that at the top of the hour they do a girl parade, up on stage, of all the girls. And immediately following that, they put on a slow song and the girls look for dance partners. I'the done this at Aurora and nothing beats slow dancing with a pretty girl (if you must have your clothes on that is). Well Anastasia (beige sparkle) tries two guys but no go. As she is walking away from my area and trying to snag another guy, I literally chase her down and make her my girl. She seems VERY pleased and pulls in close. Lovely tight slow dance with her face buried in my neck. I am a complete sap for this kind of romance. Sigh. So lovely.

I can't recall why but I don't have the sense to drag her to my table but I continue to keep an eye on her all night. Lots of hotties I consider going with, but really having an epic time at $3/ pop and enjoying the vibe.

As it nears 1 AM, I start to think I'the better grab a hottie and there is Anastasia just over on a couch all alone. Just wallflowering it — no active game at all. So I go grab her hand and escort her back to my couch. We sit and cuddle and she is very affectionate but almost zero English. But wow. Solid 9 for sure. So we agree the same R18000, including room, as I had at Aurora. Here the format is that you separate and meet at the hotel downstairs in 5 minutes.

This is the same venue where I did my epic sushi and Jack duo two years ago and the rooms are the nicest of the three venues. Best feature is a 8 feet by 8 feet shower that has a clear glass wall to the bedroom.

So after some nice light kiss and cuddle I head to the shower, where through the glass separating it from the bedroom, I can see she's now naked on the bed. I give her the "come on in" finger gesture and sure enough she joins me. Nice! She helps a bit with the soap up and I soap her tits and touch her pussy lightly. It's very nice but not passionate. Still, showering with a hot girl never sucks!

In the bed this is one hot and bothered girl! Again CBJ, which I don't love, but then I roll her over to work on her some. I spend a lot of time just kissing and licking her neck and tits. I discovered with Carolina (Casarao. Brazil) last year that some small-titted girls (she is a soft bee-cup) like their tits deeply sucked. And Anastasia is no exception. I suck each tit fully into my mouth and she moans and writhes. Although I lick my way down to her belly button I am surprised when she covers her pussy with her hand — no DATY. I respect that. Her loss, but she will make it back later!

So we fuck in all the usual positions and she has no problem with FIV which I adore. She is plenty worked up and sloppy from giving the BJ and has great pussy feel in all three positions. She is truly lovely in cowgirl — a ten for that view. After some serious doggie pounding I don't think I can make it go in the condom. So I pull out and roll her over and put her hand on her pussy.

She gets the message and starts working herself and I am of course working myself and enjoying the view. She prefers finger fucking which tends to cover the view but she is working to a REAL O which is very sexy. So I eventually drop my load on the sheets but she is still going. Never seen this before. She is totally lost in it and goes another solid ten minutes till she hits a shattering O. I just kind of hold her or work her tits a bit. But it's thrilling to watch.

A nice joint shower wind-down and off we go. Back in the club, I decide to just sit and enjoy it a bit rather than hit the hay. To my surprise, Anastasia, in full sparkle, comes to sit with me and cuddle. I order her another drink and we spend another companionable 15 or so minutes together snuggling. It is a really nice wind-down and then alas I must go.

I get her WhatsApp and contact her the next day. I inquire as to whether she will BBBJ and she declines. I kick myself a bit because I am pretty certain with the initial R12,000 dangling in front of her she would have said yes. Fortunately I am smarter by night three -- read on!

Angels. A True 9. 5 - Tatyana.

Having a flight the next morning I decide to go to the club a bit earlier. I am tempted to repeat with Anastasia—what a doll — but the guaranteed CBJ sends me packing. So Angels and a true Moscow Trifecta it shall be!

I arrive Angels around 935 or 940 (completely unaware of the room special). Again "Brandy" gets me in for free. I am thinking I might go for two rounds as this is my last night for a while and have the funds to do it. So I am drinking Red Bull and Vodka to get me ready for the assault!

As usual, I have a seat at the bar. I am surprised by how LAZY the girls are here. There must be only 3 or 4 guys and probably 12-15 girls but they are all just laying around on the couches to the left. No one makes any move to approach the fresh new meat just placed before them at the bar.

So I am content to sip and watch the show. After maybe 10 minutes, a girl approaches — Tatyana. And whoa is she my type. I had been with a full-on 9. 5 at Scandallo in Brazil in July named Andressa. Andressa sent me 15 model pics after our night together so I have studied every curve and perfect imperfection. This girl Tatyana could have been her twin! She even had the pronounced bikini lines of a Brasileira, come to find out.

Well she asks if I want a lap dance and I say sure. And it is sexy with lots of tit squeezing and considerably longer than normal. Despite this, I vow to try to resist going to the room. I've only been there 12 minutes!

She asks if I want to go to the room — while stroking my cock in full view of the rest of the girls — and it is hard to say no; but again, I just got there. When I say "no" she says baby I don't understand? And then says, oh rooms are half off till ten. Well that got my attention. I mean who doesn't like saving $50 and all I have to do is cave to this 9. 5!

So, having learned my lesson earlier I had already keyed into Google translate: "Blowjob without a condom and I lick your pussy. OK?. " She reads the Russian translation and says yes number 2 but no number 1. Damn!

So I say I am sorry baby but I really can't go then. Pregnant pause. She says— OK we do number 1. Let's go! And, after paying only R3000 for the room, we head up two flights of stairs with our waitress carrying our drinks for us. It's good to be the king.

Before we go farther, pause and take in how easy it was to get BJ no condom -- I simply had to make it a deal breaker. I was prepared to walk and she caved in literally seconds. That's not to say this will happen every time, but often, if you are truly prepared to walk, the negotiation will go your way. This is true worldwide -- make clear what you want, be prepared to walk, and you will often get it.

In the room, what a sweetheart. No hard feelings over negotiation. No rushing. No cheating. Great girl. First we kiss and cuddle and then she helps me undress (love that) and then leads me by the hand to the shower. She then does full on bath prep like I've only had in Japan. I am not to do anything but enjoy, as she soaps me up, including armpits, dick, balls and taint. She gets me super clean and I soap her some too. Gives a nice preview blowjob too. I hope that is not the limit of her BBBJ though and oh my -- definitely not!

Back in the bed she puts me on my back. Now to be fair she is a careful girl and douses me in alcohol before proceeding. Chilling! Totally worth it. She embarks on a top five BBBJ. She knows just how to do it -- lovely BLS, followed by shaft licking. Tongue tapping under the head. Full mouth for some pumps and then. Rinse repeat. OMFG. At least 20 minutes of this. It is pure heaven. She is a magician!

I consider finishing like this but decide to fuck her for a while. We start in cowgirl where she is extremely vocal but I totally believe her. Very sexy. I even think I might cum there. We switch to mish. Same thing. Very vocal. Great feeling. Might cum but don't. Doggie is a little disappointing lacking feeling.

Lose the condom and after enduring a re-alcoholing (brrrr) we do more BBBJ. It remains spectacular but even more so after fucking. We probably go another 10 minutes at this. In the end I finish by hand while she licks and sucks my balls. Lovely.

When I cum she seems a bit exasperated. And I wonder if I got some on her face or mouth or what. But pretty quickly she says "I'm sorry" indicating she failed me by my needing to use my own hand. What a sweetheart. I tell her it's fine and how beautiful she is about ten times and all is good.

Final shower is just as good as prep -- she fully cleans me and my johnson and the boys. What a wonderful attentive girl.

I give her a $40 tip. What a trooper BBBJing for nearly the whole session and shower before and after. What a keeper. Got her WhatsApp! And she sent a pic the next day (most girls will) and no beer goggles at work here — she is a real cutie.

My first visit to Aurora was on a Friday. The place was hopping. The restaurant tables outside the club were mostly occupied. First thing you go through a metal detector and then get wanded and patted down. Then you go by a front desk, where a hostess takes your 2500 Ruble cover charge, seats you and returns with your change, if any. You order a drink from a waitress, and can either run a tab or pay by the drink. Prices I paid ran from 775 Rubles for a Corona to 1150 for a cocktail.

The hostess sat me at a counter facing the stage. Given this was a busy night, the location sucked. Women were circulating behind me, mostly headed to tables in the back of the club where presumably the high rollers were. I grabbed a "10" who walked by who said she'd come back but never did. I was frustrated because the women I talked with didn't know much English, and my Russian is close to "0". One of the women who took pity on my failure to communicate called over Dasha, an excellent English speaker. She wore an evening dress, which I thought might be a red flag, that she was trying to cover something up. But I was getting tired of the scene, and just wanted to get laid and go back to the hotel. So I plunked down 6000 Rubles for a room and agreed to pay her 16,000 and away we went. That was for an hour in the room.

We showered first. When her clothes came off she was more attractive than I thought she would be, and she was a good performer for my tastes, except the kissing was closed-mouthed. She was interesting to talk with. We got a call about 10 minutes before the hour was up.

That night there were some very attractive women in the club, maybe three I'd rate at a 9, and some 8's.

I returned on a Sunday night. There were maybe twenty-five women and four men. The 9's were gone. So were the 8's, except for a couple of waitresses, who I bet would go to the rooms along with the dancers and the bartenders, if you so fancied.

I fucked up before, getting seated at the counter, so I asked to go the bar. Also, given I didn't get the attention I so richly deserve my first time in, I dressed up a bit. One or the other strategy paid off, as I got a lot of attention. The 1000 Rubles I tipped the women the first couple of times they came by and danced in my lap probably helped too. That's what one of them told me I should pay. I wised up later and cut that back, as they appeared to be getting lots of 200 bills. So I'd guess that amount, previously reported by Steve, is what most people were paying them. That indeed was a lot of fun, the lap dances, although I wasn't as enamored with the slow dancing. Paraphrasing Paul Simon, this time, my lack of Russian didn't hurt me none. I felt comfortable interacting with all the women.

One of the bartenders, a 20 year old, appeared to have the hots for me. So I went with it. After I committed to go to the room with her, she seemed absolutely giddy, jumping up and down, like you see some of the younger Thai bargirls do. Her English wasn't as good as Dasha's the night before, but she made up for it with passion. We really had a good time. The room charge was 8,000 this time, and it was like a Suite, much nicer than the 6,000 room. I gave her another 16,000.

The following night, Monday, was a repeat, except that the quality of the dancers was definitely up. One woman I'd rate at an 8 or 9 was there. Still, the A-team wasn't attending (I. E. The handful of world class hotties from Friday night.).

In summary, here are Tiny's rules for Aurora:

1. Do not sit at the counter. Tell them you want to sit at the bar.

2. Do not go on a Friday or Saturday unless you like crowds, sausage fests and model-quality women. Ok, I am giving a mixed message here.

3. Do not go on a Sunday if you want to bang a true hottie.

4. Do not be a goober and tip the women 1000 Rubles for dances. 200 Rubles is probably enough and 500 will make you look like a champ.

5. Do not pay for private table dances. They cost 3000 Rubles and are very bad value.

6. Shell out 8,000 Rubles and get the nicer room.

7. Read Steve's report immediately below mine. Steve is one of the most gifted writers on ISG, and combines the best attributes of Penthouse Letters and Lonely Planet Travel Guidebooks in his works.

I went in fairly early each time, about 10:00 PM to 11:00 PM. The club is open from 9:00 PM to 6:00 AM on weekdays, and until 7:00 AM on Friday and Saturday. At 10:00 PM or 11:00 PM all the women appeared to have arrived. I understand they're fined for tardiness, so maybe that's why.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2909134]Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.[/QUOTE]Great info on the Raiffesen card. They are such a great bank. General question: What's the latest on the visa issue? I know some Americans and Brits who travel in and out but under very specific circumstances. Are tourist visas being issued again to Westerners? Or is that still verboten? I so miss Moscow and reading reports are making me pine for a return trip to Candy land.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2935122]Great info on the Raiffesen card. They are such a great bank. General question: What's the latest on the visa issue? I know some Americans and Brits who travel in and out but under very specific circumstances. Are tourist visas being issued again to Westerners? Or is that still verboten? I so miss Moscow and reading reports are making me pine for a return trip to Candy land.[/QUOTE]Hi Jake, As communicated I don't think the visa is an issue, for USA Citizens at least.

Tinkoff is another good option for a bank card. You can apply online, and they'll even deliver the card to your hotel, although it may be somewhat problematic getting money into the account without visiting a branch with cash.

Getting a UnionPay card in the country where you live may be another option, although I didn't try it. They're supposed to work in Russia, while Visa, Mastercard and American Express don't. But I'm not sure about that, so it would be a good idea to take lots of cash even if you have a Union Pay card. You can take 10,000 Euros or dollars, I'm not sure which, without declaring it.

The hotels I stayed in had services you could use where they sent you a link and you could pay with a western credit card. The services add on about 5% to 10% to the bill though.

As to exchanging dollars or Euros it's better to use one of the currency exchange shops around town. Maybe ask the concierge in your hotel where one is. I tried to find several with Google Maps and they weren't open any longer. The currency exchange places would give you a better forex rate than the banks and you didn't have to wait in a long line.

Russians are the ones who are having problems getting visas. One person there told me it's very hard or impossible to get a Schenghen area (European) visa. And the U.S. has quit issuing tourist visas to Russians entirely. I'm not sure what good that's going to do. Sanctimonious, arrogant Western governments should realize that restrictions like these and sanctions only hurt ordinary people and embitter the population. A lot of good they've done in Iran and Cuba. But I guess that's a subject for a different forum.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2935122]Great info on the Raiffesen card. They are such a great bank. General question: What's the latest on the visa issue? I know some Americans and Brits who travel in and out but under very specific circumstances. Are tourist visas being issued again to Westerners? Or is that still verboten? I so miss Moscow and reading reports are making me pine for a return trip to Candy land.[/QUOTE]I am Turkish and get an electronic visa for 16 days easily from the website. One of my friend got 3 months through a Turkish agent.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2935194]Hi Jake, As communicated I don't think the visa is an issue, for USA Citizens at least.

Tinkoff is another good option for a bank card. You can apply online, and they'll even deliver the card to your hotel, although it may be somewhat problematic getting money into the account without visiting a branch with cash.

.[/QUOTE]One of my friend got the Tinkoff and it is a pain in the. He tried to get Raiffesen many times because he wasnt happy with Tinkoff. They are charging 200-300 ruble whenever they want for the simcard they send. And I think it is not safe. Raiffesen is plain and simple. For exchanges I have heard there are better ratios as online but my simple and plain way was to get it Okhodny Ryad Shopping Center near Kremlin. Always good rates. Rates in shopping centers are usually good and they are open till 10 pm.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2934639]My first visit to Aurora was on a Friday. The place was hopping. The restaurant tables outside the club were mostly occupied. First thing you go through a metal detector and then get wanded and patted down. Then you go by a front desk, where a hostess takes your 2500 Ruble cover charge, seats you and returns with your change, if any. You order a drink from a waitress, and can either run a tab or pay by the drink. Prices I paid ran from 775 Rubles for a Corona to 1150 for a cocktail.

The hostess sat me at a counter facing the stage. Given this was a busy night, the location sucked. Women were circulating behind me, mostly headed to tables in the back of the club where presumably the high rollers were. I grabbed a "10" who walked by who said she'd come back but never did. I was frustrated because the women I talked with didn't know much English, and my Russian is close to "0". One of the women who took pity on my failure to communicate called over Dasha, an excellent English speaker. She wore an evening dress, which I thought might be a red flag, that she was trying to cover something up. But I was getting tired of the scene, and just wanted to get laid and go back to the hotel. So I plunked down 6000 Rubles for a room and agreed to pay her 16,000 and away we went. That was for an hour in the room.

We showered first. When her clothes came off she was more attractive than I thought she would be, and she was a good performer for my tastes, except the kissing was closed-mouthed. She was interesting to talk with. We got a call about 10 minutes before the hour was up.

That night there were some very attractive women in the club, maybe three I'd rate at a 9, and some 8's.

I returned on a Sunday night. There were maybe twenty-five women and four men. The 9's were gone. So were the 8's, except for a couple of waitresses, who I bet would go to the rooms along with the dancers and the bartenders, if you so fancied.

I fucked up before, getting seated at the counter, so I asked to go the bar. Also, given I didn't get the attention I so richly deserve my first time in, I dressed up a bit. One or the other strategy paid off, as I got a lot of attention. The 1000 Rubles I tipped the women the first couple of times they came by and danced in my lap probably helped too. That's what one of them told me I should pay. I wised up later and cut that back, as they appeared to be getting lots of 200 bills. So I'd guess that amount, previously reported by Steve, is what most people were paying them. That indeed was a lot of fun, the lap dances, although I wasn't as enamored with the slow dancing. Paraphrasing Paul Simon, this time, my lack of Russian didn't hurt me none. I felt comfortable interacting with all the women.

One of the bartenders, a 20 year old, appeared to have the hots for me. So I went with it. After I committed to go to the room with her, she seemed absolutely giddy, jumping up and down, like you see some of the younger Thai bargirls do. Her English wasn't as good as Dasha's the night before, but she made up for it with passion. We really had a good time. The room charge was 8,000 this time, and it was like a Suite, much nicer than the 6,000 room. I gave her another 16,000.

The following night, Monday, was a repeat, except that the quality of the dancers was definitely up. One woman I'd rate at an 8 or 9 was there. Still, the A-team wasn't attending (I. E. The handful of world class hotties from Friday night.).

In summary, here are Tiny's rules for Aurora:

1. Do not sit at the counter. Tell them you want to sit at the bar.

2. Do not go on a Friday or Saturday unless you like crowds, sausage fests and model-quality women. Ok, I am giving a mixed message here.

3. Do not go on a Sunday if you want to bang a true hottie.

4. Do not be a goober and tip the women 1000 Rubles for dances. 200 Rubles is probably enough and 500 will make you look like a champ.

5. Do not pay for private table dances. They cost 3000 Rubles and are very bad value.

6. Shell out 8,000 Rubles and get the nicer room.

7. Read Steve's report immediately below mine. Steve is one of the most gifted writers on ISG, and combines the best attributes of Penthouse Letters and Lonely Planet Travel Guidebooks in his works.

I went in fairly early each time, about 10:00 PM to 11:00 PM. The club is open from 9:00 PM to 6:00 AM on weekdays, and until 7:00 AM on Friday and Saturday. At 10:00 PM or 11:00 PM all the women appeared to have arrived. I understand they're fined for tardiness, so maybe that's why.[/QUOTE]So they beds for sex inside the club?

Hi guys,

The stripclub scene is really good. I went to Aurora, Virgins and Rasputin, and have to say the first two were amazing. Girls in Virgins were particularly hot.

I was hoping though to be able to find a place that just offers an uncovered blowjob or, even better, an erotic massage with blowjob. The prices in the stripclubs are too high for just those activities, probably because they are more oriented towards full on sex. Can also take a little while to get down to business in the stripclubs. Which is why I'd just prefer an erotic massage place that has a BBBJ ending or, failing that, just some place that offers a BBBJ without the additional cost / effort of strip clubs. If anyone has any ideas would be much appreciated, and we can still keep such places in business during these times.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2936122]So they beds for sex inside the club?[/QUOTE]Yes, for sure. Very nice private rooms with showers and toilets. First class facilities in Angels. Aurora is pretty good and Penthouse used to have a "hotel" connected to the club for sex.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2935751]I am Turkish and get an electronic visa for 16 days easily from the website. One of my friend got 3 months through a Turkish agent.

One of my friend got the Tinkoff and it is a pain in the. He tried to get Raiffesen many times because he wasnt happy with Tinkoff. They are charging 200-300 ruble whenever they want for the simcard they send. And I think it is not safe. Raiffesen is plain and simple. For exchanges I have heard there are better ratios as online but my simple and plain way was to get it Okhodny Ryad Shopping Center near Kremlin. Always good rates. Rates in shopping centers are usually good and they are open till 10 pm.[/QUOTE]A friend of mine who lives in Moscow has a Tinkoff account and he has had some real problems with them. And I too have heard good things about Raiffeisen. I thought it was easiest to get a debit card with Tinkoff if you don't live in Russia. But reading your report below it sounds pretty easy to get a Raiffeisen card too.

I saw a forex location in Google Maps in Okhodny Ryad shopping center, and looked on every floor and never found it. Do you know if it's still open and where it is within the center? I asked a couple of people and they told me to go to a bank kind of close to the food court. I didn't want to wait in line though, and the rate wasn't as good as the forex places.

You probably already know this, but it came in really handy for me. You don't need a card to use the Yandex app to get taxis. There's an option in the app to pay with cash.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2936122]So they beds for sex inside the club?[/QUOTE]Ditto what Jake said. The 8,000 Ruble room at Aurora was very nice, more like a hotel suite than a hotel room.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2939554]Ditto what Jake said. The 8,000 Ruble room at Aurora was very nice, more like a hotel suite than a hotel room.[/QUOTE]Thanks planning to go on winter with the snow bunnies.

I visited Penthouse on Thursday September 19th, arrived around 11 pm and left at 2:30 am with a feeling of disappointment. First you go through a metal detector and get frisked, then up the stairs where ladies in dresses wait to charge you the 3000 entry fee and bring you inside. None of them were particularly attractive, only one of them understood basic English so she was the one who took me inside. Seeing as it was obvious it was my first time there she should have explained how things work, but she didn't really explain anything, if I was not a member of this fine forum I wouldn't even know that sex is possible, I would just think that it's a mediocre strip club. All she said was that I can either sit at the bar, or pay an extra 2000 to sit at a table looking at the stage, I chose the bar based on Iceberg27's advice and that is definitely good advice, if you don't sit at the bar you miss most of the action (such as it is). Plus there were not very many guys when I was there and I could have sat down at a table looking at the stage later if I wanted, nobody is checking when there are many empty tables. Ordered a drink from the bored looking topless bartender, paid for it immediately, settled in to observe, and was quite disappointed by the optics. I spotted about 20 girls including the waitresses, most of which were in the 6-7 range, definitely below average for Moscow, you can step out onto New Arbat street, take a 10 minute walk and you will see 20 hotter girls than the ones working in Penthouse. There were only 3 girls that I would consider for a session, one young cute Kazakh girl with decent English, and 2 hot Russian girls that I would put in the 8-9 range (but again by Moscow standards they are nothing to write home about). Naturally, the 9 was busy entertaining some high rollers in the VIP section. Every 30 minutes or so the girls will go around and offer a 1 minute dance where you can touch them and talk to them up close in exchange for a small tip. I was tipping them 1000 since I only had 1000 bills, but that is way over the top, the expected tip is 100 and they won't even notice that you gave more so it is a waste of money, I suggest you go there with 100 bills. I managed to talk to the 8 when she came to offer a dance, her English was near zero but with the help of Google translate she agreed to go to a room with me, price per hour was 16 k for her and 8 k for the room, but then she said that there is a long queue to get a room since they are all occupied. She promised to come back but never did so I approached her about an hour later and she said there is no room available and that she is still waiting, she disappeared from the club after that probably because when a room became available she grabbed the nearest man instead of trying to find me. Afterwards I spoke to the Kazakh when she approached for a dance and I wanted to go to a room with her, but she said she already has a bunch of sessions scheduled and she has been waiting for a room for 2 hours. The way it works is you agree on a session with a girl, she will go and put her name in the queue for a room and then when a room is free she will go there with whichever of the men who asked for a session with her is close at the time. She explained that the reason for this long wait time is because some of the rooms were being renovated so there weren't enough, and when men book the rooms and keep extending their stay, everyone else has to wait. She did offer to go to my hotel instead, but for her to leave the club I would have to pay a 50.000 ruble bar fine on top of what I would pay her, which is crazy expensive.

I suppose I was just unlucky, but even ignoring the shortage of rooms, the atmosphere in the club was just boring. Pole dancing was mediocre, quality of the girls is bad by Russian standards, there were also some older tired looking girls with bad plastic surgery desperately trying to get money from dances who I had to reject over and over, the topless bartenders were so bored that one of them literally leaned over the bar and looked like she is asleep. The icing on the cake was when a couple hours after I had already paid for my drinks a different bartender came to charge me for them, and when I told her I already paid she had to shake the sleeping girl awake to confirm that I did.

I spent almost 3 hours there waiting for a room to become available, and finally had enough around 2:30 am. As I was walking out with an obvious face of disappointment, the hostesses at the entrance completely ignored me, half asleep, they didn't even ask how it was or say bye. I saw it mentioned in this thread that this is part of a chain of clubs and that they offer a free taxi ride between them, but I saw no indication of that at the club itself and nobody offered it. Maybe I was just unlucky and / or Thursday is a bad day to go, but Penthouse was a complete waste of time and money, no better than some German FKKs, at least there you don't have to wait to get a room.

Yeah I recently went to Penthouse and pretty much agree with what you've mentioned. So far I've mostly be going for the views. Penthouse left me disappointed as it was difficult to see clearly from the bar area given the fairly dark lighting. I also used the token that penthouse had on its website to get a free dance. But the dancer didn't allow kissing her chest even though she said I could before I agreed the dance with her.

I actually think Loft is best for views as there are girls dancing on poles opposite the main stage so you can get more close up views.

I also went to Virgins and Golden Girls but their main public dances only go topless which isn't great (although their private dances take off everything and are pretty good).

Would love to hear other People's thoughts on which clubs have the best views (most close-ups that are fully nude)? Spreading on the public stages would be a bonus, but that doesn't seem to be too common here?

[QUOTE=Ragnaros;2951871]I visited Penthouse on Thursday September 19th, arrived around 11 pm and left at 2:30 am with a feeling of disappointment. First you go through a metal detector and get frisked, then up the stairs where ladies in dresses wait to charge you the 3000 entry fee and bring you inside. None of them were particularly attractive, only one of them understood basic English so she was the one who took me inside. Seeing as it was obvious it was my first time there she should have explained how things work, but she didn't really explain anything, if I was not a member of this fine forum I wouldn't even know that sex is possible, I would just think that it's a mediocre strip club. All she said was that I can either sit at the bar, or pay an extra 2000 to sit at a table looking at the stage, I chose the bar based on Iceberg27's advice and that is definitely good advice, if you don't sit at the bar you miss most of the action (such as it is). Plus there were not very many guys when I was there and I could have sat down at a table looking at the stage later if I wanted, nobody is checking when there are many empty tables. Ordered a drink from the bored looking topless bartender, paid for it immediately, settled in to observe, and was quite disappointed by the optics. I spotted about 20 girls including the waitresses, most of which were in the 6-7 range, definitely below average for Moscow, you can step out onto New Arbat street, take a 10 minute walk and you will see 20 hotter girls than the ones working in Penthouse. There were only 3 girls that I would consider for a session, one young cute Kazakh girl with decent English, and 2 hot Russian girls that I would put in the 8-9 range (but again by Moscow standards they are nothing to write home about). Naturally, the 9 was busy entertaining some high rollers in the VIP section. Every 30 minutes or so the girls will go around and offer a 1 minute dance where you can touch them and talk to them up close in exchange for a small tip. I was tipping them 1000 since I only had 1000 bills, but that is way over the top, the expected tip is 100 and they won't even notice that you gave more so it is a waste of money, I suggest you go there with 100 bills. I managed to talk to the 8 when she came to offer a dance, her English was near zero but with the help of Google translate she agreed to go to a room with me, price per hour was 16 k for her and 8 k for the room, but then she said that there is a long queue to get a room since they are all occupied. She promised to come back but never did so I approached her about an hour later and she said there is no room available and that she is still waiting, she disappeared from the club after that probably because when a room became available she grabbed the nearest man instead of trying to find me. Afterwards I spoke to the Kazakh when she approached for a dance and I wanted to go to a room with her, but she said she already has a bunch of sessions scheduled and she has been waiting for a room for 2 hours. The way it works is you agree on a session with a girl, she will go and put her name in the queue for a room and then when a room is free she will go there with whichever of the men who asked for a session with her is close at the time. She explained that the reason for this long wait time is because some of the rooms were being renovated so there weren't enough, and when men book the rooms and keep extending their stay, everyone else has to wait. She did offer to go to my hotel instead, but for her to leave the club I would have to pay a 50.000 ruble bar fine on top of what I would pay her, which is crazy expensive.

I suppose I was just unlucky, but even ignoring the shortage of rooms, the atmosphere in the club was just boring. Pole dancing was mediocre, quality of the girls is bad by Russian standards, there were also some older tired looking girls with bad plastic surgery desperately trying to get money from dances who I had to reject over and over, the topless bartenders were so bored that one of them literally leaned over the bar and looked like she is asleep. The icing on the cake was when a couple hours after I had already paid for my drinks a different bartender came to charge me for them, and when I told her I already paid she had to shake the sleeping girl awake to confirm that I did.

I spent almost 3 hours there waiting for a room to become available, and finally had enough around 2:30 am. As I was walking out with an obvious face of disappointment, the hostesses at the entrance completely ignored me, half asleep, they didn't even ask how it was or say bye. I saw it mentioned in this thread that this is part of a chain of clubs and that they offer a free taxi ride between them, but I saw no indication of that at the club itself and nobody offered it. Maybe I was just unlucky and / or Thursday is a bad day to go, but Penthouse was a complete waste of time and money, no better than some German FKKs, at least there you don't have to wait to get a room.[/QUOTE]

Hi gentlemen,

I haven't been to Russia since Feb 2022 and I'm interested on your opinions on the war's effects on the mongering scene in Moscow (or in Russia in general). Has it become better, or worse? Or no significant changes?

Hi guys I wanted to share with you the Russian escort site Ashoo which I believe has not been mentioned here. Ashoo is geared more towards 18-25 model GFE types. I've attached some pictures of Russian cuties I came across after 15 minutes of browsing the site.

[URL]https://myg.ashoo.live/elitnye/moskva[/URL]

I would say the site seems pretty popular in Moscow, St Petersburg, and other cities in Russia too. Of course you can translate everything via Google web page translator. A lot of the girls list their WhatsApp / Telegram on their profiles for contact. Some even have their Instagram written in their bio so you can vet them. If you look at their profiles, a lot of them are passport-ready for fmty type arrangements as well; as of today, I'm pretty sure Dubai and Istanbul still operate flights to / from Moscow, so that is an option.

IntimCity is also quite popular, but in my opinion maybe not as high quality as Ashoo.

[URL]https://pa.intimcity.lol/[/URL]

Good luck.

Hey guys.

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any stripclubs with more explicit views on the public stages / poles? Like where the girls will be properly spreading open? I've been to several clubs here- Rasputin, LE Rouge, Golden Girls, Angels, Virgins, Loft, Penthouse etc. Whilst the set-up / shows are very professional, the girls typically don't spread. You can often see them nude, but you won't see them open their pussies etc.

If anyone knows of clubs with more explicit views I'the love to hear!

Cheers.

Moscow report from a few months back. As an Indian I was skeptical on the hospitality I would receive by Russian girls but to my surprise it was a wonderful experience.

Had a budget of 2 k USD for 7 days which was very plenty enough. Day 1 went to a brothel / salon in Moscow. 6 K for 1 hour, liked only one girl in the line-up Shower, BBBJ and fuck 2 pops.

Unlike in other places the cost is decided by the hour and not shots, so if you can do more than 2 in an hour they don't mind.

Day 2, pinged a manager from a telegram channel 15 k per hour, 1 k for taxi, super cute stunner same deed, shower, BBBJ and 2 pops.

As I stayed in 5* property the girls were able to directly walk to my room. Day 3 different manager but 20 k, same deed nothing to more to share. YMMV but to me she was a 9.

The so-called girls which we get in India are not actual Russian but from nearby Russian speaking countries.

These Slavic beauties which I saw in Moscow were so beautiful you would consider the ones who you see in Delhi can be rated just 2 or 3, mostly milfs.

Day 4 moved to SPB, will report there. Almost all links are published in ISG, just need to RTTF and get the escort websites.

[QUOTE=Raymando;2963681]Hey guys.

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any stripclubs with more explicit views on the public stages / poles? Like where the girls will be properly spreading open? I've been to several clubs here- Rasputin, LE Rouge, Golden Girls, Angels, Virgins, Loft, Penthouse etc. Whilst the set-up / shows are very professional, the girls typically don't spread. You can often see them nude, but you won't see them open their pussies etc.

If anyone knows of clubs with more explicit views I'the love to hear!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]To me this is a very odd question to ask for Moscow, when you simply have to call a girl down and take her to the room and fuck her. The point of strip clubs in Moscow is only to preview the merch and then go fuck. At least that is the way the good ones work. Rasputin just sucks period. Golden Girls is great but like a US strip club cock tease. Why go to Moscow for that. But others like Loft Penthouse Angels and Aurora are full on fucking in nice rooms. No need to try to catch some quick snatch view on stage. The whole thing is there for the taking.

Sometimes I prefer to use the strip clubs for viewing only, to build up images in my mind to make having sex with my wife all the easier Otherwise things can be a bit boring at home. A lot of western countries only allow viewing in their clubs, or private dances. But they typically are more explicit on the public stages / poles, maybe to make up for the lack of extras.

I don't mind viewing only, and I especially prefer viewing in Moscow as the girls are so much nicer than most other countries. Although if there were some clubs with more explicit views I'the love to know.

The other thing that seems to be more difficult to find here is an erotic massage with an uncovered blowjob ending as standard? Seems like you'll have to negotiate that and after negotiation might not get it, or have to pay full sex prices to have it? Whereas in a number of other countries the price is normally of a massage with a little extra for an uncovered blowjob ending. Unless I'm missing something and that is offered as standard somewhere in Moscow I don't know of?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2963807]To me this is a very odd question to ask for Moscow, when you simply have to call a girl down and take her to the room and fuck her. The point of strip clubs in Moscow is only to preview the merch and then go fuck. At least that is the way the good ones work. Rasputin just sucks period. Golden Girls is great but like a US strip club cock tease. Why go to Moscow for that. But others like Loft Penthouse Angels and Aurora are full on fucking in nice rooms. No need to try to catch some quick snatch view on stage. The whole thing is there for the taking.[/QUOTE]

Can anyone recommend a WG-friendly hotel not far from city center at a reasonable price? Would appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2931174]Disclaimer: This visit was pre-Covid so not positive all three clubs are still open or quality of girls. But I def suggest you checkout Angels Aurora Penthouse strip clubs. Moscow is unique that strip club and brothel are basically combined. It's amazing. Here's how it went down a few years back.

Moscow Trifecta -- Aurora, Angels, Penthouse.

A couple years later I was back in Moscow and by now I have the drill down pat. Aurora, Penthouse, and Angels are all super similar and inside the city loop or nearly so, so these are easiest to get to. I call this the Moscow Trifecta. Last time I had visited the Trifecta, but had not done the Trifecta, having failed to pull an Aurora girl. This time, I thought I'the give a fully consummated Trifecta a shot. I was not disappointed.

Oh before I get any farther a few important pro tips. First, if you go on their website there is a free entry code. You simply say it to the hostess and bam, you save the R2000 ($30 ish) entry. Did this all three nights they did not change the code and saved nearly $100. Sweet!

Second, apparently rooms are discounted 50% - R3000 ($40+) before 10 PM, which is not small change either. They open at nine. I did not know about this discount, nor expect to session before 10 but when you read encounter 3, you will see that I did and for good reason.

Third, like anywhere else, you can negotiate services with the girl. For some reason, this didn't occur to me till I had two CBJs; but it proved epically important in encounter three..[/QUOTE]Went to virgins instead, nice girls, always took a 9.5 or higher. Free entry code, couch, room all sounds similar. But was never offered or asked for sex. Got HJ while lap dance and BJ in room. No point missing out on fun, wish had joined ISG earlier.

Nice report from BulletWalebaba on Virgins. I didn't realise they do things like blowjobs in the private dance room, is that standard there? How much is it and is it uncovered?

Sounds like you had a good experience there. Would love to hear if other people had simile experiences there.

[QUOTE=Raymando;2968283]Nice report from BulletWalebaba on Virgins. I didn't realise they do things like blowjobs in the private dance room, is that standard there? How much is it and is it uncovered?

Sounds like you had a good experience there. Would love to hear if other people had simile experiences there.[/QUOTE]First trip was just after covid. You got to belive got HJ in regular curtain enclosure. Had taken a pair of girls in during double time offer (they ring a bell to announce offer time).

That day came to know reaching early and taking a couch / room with full bottle of liquor is cheaper.

Next time took couch, other than being close to stage, no fun. You get a iPad to choose any girl you want as addon.

Last trip took private room, paid a girl for an hour, that included two lap dances. Paid for her two drinks and then was offered BJ. That day total damage was 20 k. Too expensive for me.

But somehow I find girls at Virgins to be too good to resist.

Long ago, first time in moscow, just started to understand and use yandex maps. Searched for erotic massge, went to location near Belaruskiya station. Couldn't find the damn spa. With lot of struggle located it in one basement. 9 k rouble was damage for 2 hours. All the girls were 7 plus. Russian was poor then, was alone, didn't knew what exactly will the girl offer. She refused sex even with extra tip. But nonetheless two hours were amazing. She cleaned me in shower. Did a wonderful massage, then sucked till last drop. Followed by b2 b. I ate her like a ripe passion fruit in 69. Flawless body with pink pussy. Took a break. Smoked. Chatted over translater app. One more session, this time she rubber her pussy and butt cheeks and finished with HJ cum on her chest. Bathed together. Kissed at exit. Later tried every possible way to get laid in Moscow unpaid to paid. It becomes easier with knowledge of land and language. And yet there's so much to learn from ISG. Next time will definitely visit gentlemen club.

[QUOTE=BulletWalebaba;2968970]Long ago, first time in moscow, just started to understand and use yandex maps. Searched for erotic massge, went to location near Belaruskiya station. Couldn't find the damn spa. With lot of struggle located it in one basement. 9 k rouble was damage for 2 hours. All the girls were 7 plus. Russian was poor then, was alone, didn't knew what exactly will the girl offer. She refused sex even with extra tip. But nonetheless two hours were amazing. She cleaned me in shower. Did a wonderful massage, then sucked till last drop. Followed by b2 b. I ate her like a ripe passion fruit in 69. Flawless body with pink pussy. Took a break. Smoked. Chatted over translater app. One more session, this time she rubber her pussy and butt cheeks and finished with HJ cum on her chest. Bathed together. Kissed at exit. Later tried every possible way to get laid in Moscow unpaid to paid. It becomes easier with knowledge of land and language. And yet there's so much to learn from ISG. Next time will definitely visit gentlemen club.[/QUOTE]Sounds great that you found an erotic massage place that offers BJ ending, that's exactly what I've been looking for. Can you remember what it was called? Or the name of street near Belorusskaya that it was on?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=WarmBlankets;2957772]Hi guys I wanted to share with you the Russian escort site Ashoo which I believe has not been mentioned here. Ashoo is geared more towards 18-25 model GFE types. I've attached some pictures of Russian cuties I came across after 15 minutes of browsing the site.

[URL]https://myg.ashoo.live/elitnye/moskva[/URL]

I would say the site seems pretty popular in Moscow, St Petersburg, and other cities in Russia too. Of course you can translate everything via Google web page translator. A lot of the girls list their WhatsApp / Telegram on their profiles for contact. Some even have their Instagram written in their bio so you can vet them. If you look at their profiles, a lot of them are passport-ready for fmty type arrangements as well; as of today, I'm pretty sure Dubai and Istanbul still operate flights to / from Moscow, so that is an option.

IntimCity is also quite popular, but in my opinion maybe not as high quality as Ashoo.

[URL]https://pa.intimcity.lol/[/URL]

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Am I reading that right? 15,000 ruble for some girls? That's not bad.

There seem to be some nice looking women in Moscow, as always. But, I thought there was an economic boycott of Russia since the invasion of Ukraine. Is it legal for Americans and Europeans to travel there for tourism?

Just a warning to friends from abroad. My Australian buddy was denied entry to the USA to attend an international conference because he had an Iranian visa stamp in his passport. He is an immunologist, and is not involved in secret research.

If you visit Russia, and your passport gets stamped there, the same thing might happen to you. Who knows if this might change with the Trump administration? (although Russia might come off the list of countries that are forbidden, Iran is unlikely to become an American ally).

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2970751]There seem to be some nice looking women in Moscow, as always. But, I thought there was an economic boycott of Russia since the invasion of Ukraine. Is it legal for Americans and Europeans to travel there for tourism?

Just a warning to friends from abroad. My Australian buddy was denied entry to the USA to attend an international conference because he had an Iranian visa stamp in his passport. He is an immunologist, and is not involved in secret research.

If you visit Russia, and your passport gets stamped there, the same thing might happen to you. Who knows if this might change with the Trump administration? (although Russia might come off the list of countries that are forbidden, Iran is unlikely to become an American ally).[/QUOTE]Yeah, that is good advice.

Whoever travels to Russia these days with a passport of a Western country runs the risk of getting taken hostage by Putins regime which uses many different ways to gain leverage, imprisoning random people is one of them.

[QUOTE=TeFab456;2970803]Whoever travels to Russia these days with a passport of a Western country runs the risk of getting taken hostage by Putins regime which uses many different ways to gain leverage, imprisoning random people is one of them.[/QUOTE]Guantanamo prison is full of random people. Which Western traveler was recently imprisoned in Russia for no reason? You are spreading nonsense.

It's individual decision of each traveler to travel or not to travel. Read you government's foreign affairs warning, evaluate your insurance, get a visa and stay less than 3 months, avoid the regions affected by the conflict.

Hey there.

So I'm back in Moscow and looking for something interesting. I came across one website, and it turned out to be an agency. I've had good experiences with agencies in the past, so I wasn't surprised. But here's the thing: when I picked one girl from the gallery and then another, they told me that they were temporarily unavailable. They offered me some other options and sent me pictures in the chat. I can't say there weren't any beautiful or interesting choices, but I'm just curious — am I going to get scammed when I finally invite one of their girls over? Has anyone had any experiences with them? [URL]https://realtopmodels.ru/[/URL].

I did not find any of the pics on reverse search, it's a good sign. Plus the way the girls are dressed, seems to be rather recent photos, as many in Moscow (and Piter) try to keep up with the trends. I remember for example some years ago the trend was to wear ponchos. But it totally disappeared now. Also, the prices are not cheap in my opinion, much on the contrary. Fake sites usually lure guys with attractive prices, blinded by very low prices some may risk and impulsively pay in advance (which means the money is gone forever and there will be no girl waiting for him). And the site you posted they don't even try to ask for avans.

But these are no guarantee that the site is legit. It would be nice to know if somebody have tried them. They look nice, a pity they are so expensive. It reminds me of Frau M, the pics were too good to be true: But when you get there you understand it is true, despite of the fact that they used filters/corrections (like all sites thou).

[QUOTE=AndrewNA;2978947]Hey there.

So I'm back in Moscow and looking for something interesting. I came across one website, and it turned out to be an agency. I've had good experiences with agencies in the past, so I wasn't surprised. But here's the thing: when I picked one girl from the gallery and then another, they told me that they were temporarily unavailable. They offered me some other options and sent me pictures in the chat. I can't say there weren't any beautiful or interesting choices, but I'm just curious am I going to get scammed when I finally invite one of their girls over? Has anyone had any experiences with them? [URL]https://realtopmodels.ru/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Putologist;2979517]I did not find any of the pics on reverse search, it's a good sign. Plus the way the girls are dressed, seems to be rather recent photos, as many in Moscow (and Piter) try to keep up with the trends. I remember for example some years ago the trend was to wear ponchos. But it totally disappeared now. Also, the prices are not cheap in my opinion, much on the contrary. Fake sites usually lure guys with attractive prices, blinded by very low prices some may risk and impulsively pay in advance (which means the money is gone forever and there will be no girl waiting for him). And the site you posted they don't even try to ask for avans.

But these are no guarantee that the site is legit. It would be nice to know if somebody have tried them. They look nice, a pity they are so expensive. It reminds me of Frau M, the pics were too good to be true: But when you get there you understand it is true, despite of the fact that they used filters/corrections (like all sites thou).[/QUOTE]20 k per hour as starting price. Seems. Excessive no? Genuinely confused how these prices come to be. Especially when there is a major war going on. Am I missing something here?

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2982402]20 k per hour as starting price. Seems. Excessive no? Genuinely confused how these prices come to be. Especially when there is a major war going on. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Moscow will always be expensive.

Better prices in St Petersburg and many other cities.

For example:

[URL]https://a.dosugnovosib1.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://a.nb-nnovgorod.info/[/URL]

[URL]https://prost1.velikiynovgorodsm.com/[/URL]

Although some seem too good to be true.

So, let me tell. It turned out to be simpler than I thought)).

Pics on this site are probably fakes, because no one girl I asked was available that day. Maybe it's true. After all, can all 100 girls be working every day? Or maybe I just happened to ask about those who were on vacation. Either way, I was told that other girls were available and they sent me about 10 mini-profiles of those working today. I can't remember if any of the profiles were from the site. One girl caught my attention — blonde named Alice. She definitely isn't on the site!! I don't know if I can post photos here, but what I want to say is that the pictures sent to me in the WhatsApp chat were real. Alice arrived on time, she looked exactly like her pictures, and she provided excellent service! I'm not joking, I was so surprised that for the first time in my life I felt awkward for not having any extra cash to tip her! She might be very young (about 20 yo), and that's why she tries hard, Idk, but the fact is that this was my best experience with escort girls.

What conclusion can I draw? There's a 50% chance that the pictures of the girls on the site are just to lure you in and aren't real. On the other hand, they send real photos on WA, and you get what you choose. Is this deception? Idk. But I was satisfied after my meeting with Alice.

[QUOTE=AndrewNA;2978947]Hey there.

So I'm back in Moscow and looking for something interesting. I came across one website, and it turned out to be an agency. I've had good experiences with agencies in the past, so I wasn't surprised. But here's the thing: when I picked one girl from the gallery and then another, they told me that they were temporarily unavailable. They offered me some other options and sent me pictures in the chat. I can't say there weren't any beautiful or interesting choices, but I'm just curious am I going to get scammed when I finally invite one of their girls over? Has anyone had any experiences with them? [URL]https://realtopmodels.ru/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2982402]20 k per hour as starting price. Seems. Excessive no? Genuinely confused how these prices come to be. Especially when there is a major war going on. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]That's right.

Essentially, it's the same 200 usd per hour that I was paying back in 2017 when I first came to Moscow. But if you live here permanently, it might be considered expensive.

Even in Far East city Vladivostok, where I am right now, you have to expect to pay 15 k to get a decent looking girl. Not difficult to imagine the situation in Moscow. This inflation is going crazy in entire Russia.

Ten years ago I could get a really hot girl in provincial Russia for like 70 USD. Nowadays this money can only get you old and ugly ones, if it can get you anyone at all.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2982402]20 k per hour as starting price. Seems. Excessive no? Genuinely confused how these prices come to be. Especially when there is a major war going on. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Wars actually stimulate the economy. Many people think Russian people are poor because of the war, and woman are desperate for men because their men are drafted to the army. They are wrong.

[QUOTE=AndrewNA;2983301]That's right.

Essentially, it's the same 200 usd per hour that I was paying back in 2017 when I first came to Moscow. But if you live here permanently, it might be considered expensive.[/QUOTE]Respectfully. That is expensive by any standard except maybe the American, Luxemburg and Switzerland. 200 usd is a lot of money for a 1 hour session even for most western "rich" countries (just look at the average gross wage in Europe for example).

In any case this kind of destroys my dreams of trying out a bunch of attractive Russian girls on a 10day trip.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2987014]Respectfully. That is expensive by any standard except maybe the American, Luxemburg and Switzerland. 200 usd is a lot of money for a 1 hour session even for most western "rich" countries (just look at the average gross wage in Europe for example).

In any case this kind of destroys my dreams of trying out a bunch of attractive Russian girls on a 10day trip.[/QUOTE]Having realistic expectation is the first key to success. Russia is no longer in 90's when a super model would fuck you for a few bucks enough to buy a bread, but it still has many to offer.

IMHO, the level of women you can get with 200 usd in Russia is far better than those you can get in the west with this amount of money. Sometimes if you are lucky you can get real gems, which are rare in countries like US or Switzerland.

Most people in the west think Russians live a miserable life because of the war and are desperate for money, but it's just not the case. Yesterday I chatted with my erotic masseuse during our session and we somehow arrive on political topics and started to talk about Trump, Vance and other clowns. When asked about the possibility of ending of sanctions on Russia, she said: "Fuck 'them (the west). They think they could easily destroy our life, but they failed and want to beg us. We are now better off and can live well without them". Most girls I met recently share the same opinion. It seems indeed Russians become a lot more patriotic since the start of the war.

Not a Putin bootlicker but what they said is not totally wrong. They are not poor, at least not as poor as many westerners think. The hurt of sanctions can hardly be felt in daily life.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2987014]just look at the average gross wage in Europe for example[/QUOTE]Average is not the deciding factor here. Supply and demand are. The same reason why in some underdeveloped African countries where people typically make like $1 per day, a decent hotel can cost you a lot more than in developed countries.

And $200 is not that unreasonable anyway. In China, where I come from, that is only the starting price to get paid sex in first-tier cities. Not to mention the levels of girls you can get does not compete with what you can get in Russia at all.

If I only wanted low price, I would just visited Laos, but I'm not into SEA women. Slavic countries are still my favorite destinations.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2986474]Even in Far East city Vladivostok, where I am right now, you have to expect to pay 15 k to get a decent looking girl. Not difficult to imagine the situation in Moscow. This inflation is going crazy in entire Russia.

Ten years ago I could get a really hot girl in provincial Russia for like 70 USD. Nowadays this money can only get you old and ugly ones, if it can get you anyone at all.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report sir.

That means that all these websites about prostitutes in Vladivostok are actually fake? Have you tried any of them?

[URL]https://girls.vlputanu.com/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.gr%2F[/URL]

[URL]https://love.intim25.vip/[/URL]

[URL]https://prost4.vladivostoksm.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://sex6.prostitutkivladivostokastop.info/[/URL]

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2987040]Having realistic expectation is the first key to success. Russia is no longer in 90's when a super model would fuck you for a few bucks enough to buy a bread, but it still has many to offer.

IMHO, the level of women you can get with 200 usd in Russia is far better than those you can get in the west with this amount of money. Sometimes if you are lucky you can get real gems, which are rare in countries like US or Switzerland.

Most people in the west think Russians live a miserable life because of the war and are desperate for money, but it's just not the case. Yesterday I chatted with my erotic masseuse during our session and we somehow arrive on political topics and started to talk about Trump, Vance and other clowns. When asked about the possibility of ending of sanctions on Russia, she said: "Fuck 'them (the west). They think they could easily destroy our life, but they failed and want to beg us. We are now better off and can live well without them". Most girls I met recently share the same opinion. It seems indeed Russians become a lot more patriotic since the start of the war.

Not a Putin bootlicker but what they said is not totally wrong. They are not poor, at least not as poor as many westerners think. The hurt of sanctions can hardly be felt in daily life.[/QUOTE]Yes, Russians are very nationalist, but Putin is a criminal, prosecuted by international law, so he can t even freely travel now and even crazy Trump didn t welcome him in USA, when receiving Zelensky. Criminal Putin attacked his brothers Ukrainians with so many mixed families. Out of Mockba and Peter or touristic cities, millions of Russians are more and more poor under war, when potatoes increased 95% and they can t eat caviar like Putin who treat them just like meat. Funny, what was offered to mothers of dead. Russians are really very blind, when they could have a much better life without their dictator killing all those who dare to oppose. Pity for beautiful Russia.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2987014]Respectfully. That is expensive by any standard except maybe the American, Luxemburg and Switzerland. 200 usd is a lot of money for a 1 hour session even for most western "rich" countries (just look at the average gross wage in Europe for example).

In any case this kind of destroys my dreams of trying out a bunch of attractive Russian girls on a 10day trip.[/QUOTE]Germany is less expensive, if You don't play tourist.

[QUOTE=Savsiem;2987780]Thank you for your report sir.

That means that all these websites about prostitutes in Vladivostok are actually fake? Have you tried any of them?

[URL]https://girls.vlputanu.com/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.gr%2F[/URL]

[URL]https://love.intim25.vip/[/URL]

[URL]https://prost4.vladivostoksm.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://sex6.prostitutkivladivostokastop.info/[/URL][/QUOTE]Most photos showing face are fake. Those that blur face could still be fake, but less likely. Never trust anything you see on those sites.

You could just ask salons to send multiple girls to your place by car for you to choose.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2988221]
You could just ask salons to send multiple girls to your place by car for you to choose.[/QUOTE]And how do you find the phone numbers of the salons? You just call any number you see in these websites until someone answers?

[QUOTE=Savsiem;2988577]And how do you find the phone numbers of the salons? You just call any number you see in these websites until someone answers?[/QUOTE]You add the number on WhatsApp. If it's a salon answering, they will send you pics of girls available.

I don't care much about price increase which is also crazy, but it seems things have changed overall to the worse side over recent years. Many girls started to ask for prepayments. Even for incalls! This is shocking to me. When I was in Vladivostok, prepayments were rare even of outcalls. Never seen this in pre-pandemic Moscow as well. How has this shit become acceptable?

A girl was asking 5000 RUB prepayment, and I kindly declined, explaining to her I don't have a Russian bank card to make the transfer. She agreed to meet without prepayment, but raised her rate by 5000, making it 25000.

Sad attack on Mockba, but Putin is responsible for 3 dead, when he attacked Ukraine, not respecting what he signed in Minsk.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2988796]I don't care much about price increase which is also crazy, but it seems things have changed overall to the worse side over recent years. Many girls started to ask for prepayments. Even for incalls! This is shocking to me. When I was in Vladivostok, prepayments were rare even of outcalls. Never seen this in pre-pandemic Moscow as well. How has this shit become acceptable?

A girl was asking 5000 RUB prepayment, and I kindly declined, explaining to her I don't have a Russian bank card to make the transfer. She agreed to meet without prepayment, but raised her rate by 5000, making it 25000.[/QUOTE]I been Moscow this January, some girls ask for 10000 per hour in 2024 this year 12000 rubles. In Peter salon girl 5000 rubles in 2024,this year 7000.

AntonySun1996, Please check your private messages.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2994316]I been Moscow this January, some girls ask for 10000 per hour in 2024 this year 12000 rubles. In Peter salon girl 5000 rubles in 2024,this year 7000.

AntonySun1996, Please check your private messages.[/QUOTE]How did you find the quality of the girls in SP salons sir?

How many on average where there?

[QUOTE=Savsiem;2994359]How did you find the quality of the girls in SP salons sir?

How many on average where there?[/QUOTE]Old salons have significantly increased their prices, there are fewer girls to choose from than before, and a large number of additional service charges have appeared, all of which started in 2023.

Just got a message from the mama-san of a salon that I frequently visit. Seems one of my favourites is gone from this profession forever (or just moved to another salon which I'm unaware of, who knows). Was hoping to visit her in my upcoming trip. Have to find alternatives now.

She worked under the name Esenia, originally from Novosibirsk IIRC. Does anyone know where she works now?

I know pretty ones come and go fast in this market, but this is still quite hard to swallow.

Day ruined.

Hi comrades of the pleasure.

I haven't being to Russia yet, but I'm very very interested since tiktok is showing me lots of russian exotic dancers. Super talented and hot ones. You only have to look for them with the hashtag #highheels #dance.

I have already booked and f*cked some great ones from other countries, but I see the russians are super talented. So my question is. Do exotic dancers do shows in gents clubs? Are they commonly escorts or very few ones?

Thanks for the info. I share pics of some of the exotic dancers I booked for my private pleasure.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2996966]Just got a message from the mama-san of a salon that I frequently visit. Seems one of my favourites is gone from this profession forever (or just moved to another salon which I'm unaware of, who knows). Was hoping to visit her in my upcoming trip. Have to find alternatives now.

She worked under the name Esenia, originally from Novosibirsk IIRC. Does anyone know where she works now?

I know pretty ones come and go fast in this market, but this is still quite hard to swallow.

Day ruined.[/QUOTE]Please tell me how did you find the salon?

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2997933]Hi comrades of the pleasure.

I haven't being to Russia yet, but I'm very very interested since tiktok is showing me lots of russian exotic dancers. Super talented and hot ones. You only have to look for them with the hashtag #highheels #dance.
I have already booked and f*cked some great ones from other countries, but I see the russians are super talented.[/QUOTE]Have been to Moscow 4 times and St. Pete 2 times on the weekend men's social vacation tours. Russian women are very beautiful, attractive, blue eyes and blonde, and as secretive and cold as ice. I brought one back from St. Pete, but she was lazy and did not want to get out of bed in the morning, just wanted to buy cosmetics and get her hair dyed, and ran off within the first year, thank God. I met another one in Moscow, but she was into herself and not wife material, had a 6 year old daughter and would have been problems.

If you want passion, try a Latina. If you want looks, try a Russian girl.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3000526]Have been to Moscow 4 times and St. Pete 2 times on the weekend men's social vacation tours. Russian women are very beautiful, attractive, blue eyes and blonde, and as secretive and cold as ice. I brought one back from St. Pete, but she was lazy and did not want to get out of bed in the morning, just wanted to buy cosmetics and get her hair dyed, and ran off within the first year, thank God. I met another one in Moscow, but she was into herself and not wife material, had a 6 year old daughter and would have been problems.

If you want passion, try a Latina. If you want looks, try a Russian girl.[/QUOTE]This is the most relevant description! Absolutely agree.

Hi, thanks for the reply and description of women there. South America is my home area, so plenty latinas on my list. Of course I love them.

Maybe I should try a bit of the frozen russian beauties, I'm a visual producer myself as you can see and I love fashion style faces and bodies.

What about those exotic russian dancers? Sample pics attached.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3000526]Have been to Moscow 4 times and St. Pete 2 times on the weekend men's social vacation tours. Russian women are very beautiful, attractive, blue eyes and blonde, and as secretive and cold as ice. I brought one back from St. Pete, but she was lazy and did not want to get out of bed in the morning, just wanted to buy cosmetics and get her hair dyed, and ran off within the first year, thank God. I met another one in Moscow, but she was into herself and not wife material, had a 6 year old daughter and would have been problems.

If you want passion, try a Latina. If you want looks, try a Russian girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;3000972]What about those exotic russian dancers? Sample pics attached.[/QUOTE]Try Intimcity. You can even find girls that do gymnastics.

Thanks, will try it. Time to start learning the basic russian grammar.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;3001262]Try Intimcity. You can even find girls that do gymnastics.[/QUOTE]

On Intimcity I see a lot of beautiful girls who seem to be reasonably priced and have good reviews. I am curious: How do these girls work? In Saint Petersburg there is the salon system and half a dozen girls are working in an apartment with a few bedrooms and they have a manager who communicates with you, who updates the salon telegram channel with information about who is working during which hours and so on. Is Moscow like that or are these just totally random, independent women who live in an apartment alone and decide to try their luck and throw some ads up on the internet and see what happens?

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3002610] Is Moscow like that or are these just totally random, independent women who live in an apartment alone and decide to try their luck and throw some ads up on the internet and see what happens?[/QUOTE]A combination of both in my experience. I've had some good experience with Moscow salons during my recent visits, and they work exactly the way you wrote about SP salons. However I haven't tried many independents, as the hot ones often demand prepayments, which I usually decline.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;3003010]A combination of both in my experience. I've had some good experience with Moscow salons during my recent visits, and they work exactly the way you wrote about SP salons. However I haven't tried many independents, as the hot ones often demand prepayments, which I usually decline.[/QUOTE]Interesting. However I don't see any way of knowing which girls work for a salon or which salon. In SP a salon will have a telegram channel and if you find a consistently well reviewed salon you can feel pretty confident about using them.
For example this list of salons seems to be very good.
https://amurside.com/index.php?showforum=255

Perhaps in Moscow they have to be more secretive?

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3003087]Interesting. However I don't see any way of knowing which girls work for a salon or which salon. In SP a salon will have a telegram channel and if you find a consistently well reviewed salon you can feel pretty confident about using them.
For example this list of salons seems to be very good.
https://amurside.com/index.php?showforum=255..[/QUOTE]It's easy. On Intimcity you can search the attached phone number of an ad, and if you see multiple ads with the same phone number, it's likely a salon.

Otherwise just write the number directly on WhatsApp and ask them if they are salon or indie. Salons in Moscow usually have TG channels as well.

The intimcity site has real pics, and it helps greatly if you speak some Russian, or just use the google translator. I've dated a pageant winner among other beauties expensive but worth it.

My question for other hobbiest in Moscow is this. The Club Night Flight was closed in 2022, my heart almost sunk when I saw the news, it was a treasure trove for me. Go there have dinner, pick a normal hot model girl to have fun. I met realtor girls, other normal girls that just did for some fun and extra cash. Are there any other clubs open in Moscow where you can go to pick up hot girls like night flight? Not strip clubs. You can just walk to them and offer some cash for fun and not get slapped in the face In other words, everyone knows why they are there.

[QUOTE=Super6stud9;3003878]The intimcity site has real pics, and it helps greatly if you speak some Russian, or just use the google translator. I've dated a pageant winner among other beauties expensive but worth it.

My question for other hobbiest in Moscow is this. The Club Night Flight was closed in 2022, my heart almost sunk when I saw the news, it was a treasure trove for me. Go there have dinner, pick a normal hot model girl to have fun. I met realtor girls, other normal girls that just did for some fun and extra cash. Are there any other clubs open in Moscow where you can go to pick up hot girls like night flight? Not strip clubs. You can just walk to them and offer some cash for fun and not get slapped in the face In other words, everyone knows why they are there.[/QUOTE]Many fond memories from Night Flight. Aka. The Swedish Embassy!

Hi guys.

Did anyone contact this Moscow escort agency.

[URL]https://realtopmodels.ru/[/URL]

And these also look interesting.

[URL]https://mollyescort.ru/[/URL]

[URL]https://moscowescortclub.com/[/URL]

Hello,

My dear friends and comrades on the Moscow section of the forum.

Pleace accept my sincere greetings.

I am an old comrade myself who visited Moscow a number of times between 2016-18. Can't believe it's been almost a decade now as I reflect back on those fond memories, and it is still hard for me to believe how much the world has changed since then, and even more so how much Russia and its relations with other countries have changed.

Anyway, having learned the wisdom to act in times of uncertainty, I booked my trip to Moscow decisively which will be next month.

Appreciate any help with the following:

- Did Vanilia massage relocate to Kitay-Gorod from its old location on Arbat? Same services?

- I can vividly remember a wonderful agency called beauty-students, are they still operating? Couldn't find their website anymore?

- Will UnionPay cards work?

- I am sure some new establishments have emerged and some old ones have closed. Give me some updates given my last visit was in 2018.

About stripclubs, in my previous visits I went to Aurora and Loft on both occasions I simply sat along the bar and waited for girls to come to me. Tipped the girls who came, and accepted the deal who offered me sex. I felt like I simply did not take full advantage of the opportunity. Ordering private dance, using google translate to negotiate I wasn't doing any of that LOL. I assume this was because I did not speak any Russian and no one explained it to me how things worked there. Anyone with more experience mind helping me out?

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;3049032]Hello,

My dear friends and comrades on the Moscow section of the forum.

Pleace accept my sincere greetings.

I am an old comrade myself who visited Moscow a number of times between 2016-18. Can't believe it's been almost a decade now as I reflect back on those fond memories, and it is still hard for me to believe how much the world has changed since then, and even more so how much Russia and its relations with other countries have changed.

Anyway, having learned the wisdom to act in times of uncertainty, I booked my trip to Moscow decisively which will be next month.

Appreciate any help with the following:

- Did Vanilia massage relocate to Kitay-Gorod from its old location on Arbat? Same services?

- I can vividly remember a wonderful agency called beauty-students, are they still operating? Couldn't find their website anymore?

- Will UnionPay cards work?

- I am sure some new establishments have emerged and some old ones have closed. Give me some updates given my last visit was in 2018.

About stripclubs, in my previous visits I went to Aurora and Loft on both occasions I simply sat along the bar and waited for girls to come to me. Tipped the girls who came, and accepted the deal who offered me sex. I felt like I simply did not take full advantage of the opportunity. Ordering private dance, using google translate to negotiate I wasn't doing any of that LOL. I assume this was because I did not speak any Russian and no one explained it to me how things worked there. Anyone with more experience mind helping me out?[/QUOTE]I will try to reply shortly. Talisman is the trending MP now. Check their telegram account. I think aurora isn't like in the old days. Virgins is the far best strip club. Unionpay cards won't work. I recommend go to raiffeisen bank close to arbat street. Open an account. Get a debit card. And put some rubles to your account and you will be able to use yandex services. Taxi, delivery. Etc. If you can't succeed on that go oxodny ryad shopping center. Best rates there. Usually there are exchange shops in shopping centers. Use yandex maps instead of google maps etc. Before you go get an proper working vpn app.

Visited Moscow again after almost a decade. I see some improvements, also some drawbacks. I had huge disappointment at Vanilia. Price went up but the quality of girls went down by a lot not to mention both manager and girls can be pushy salesmen. Talisman was certainly a lot better service than Vanilia but the 8's and 9's are just not there anymore. I would say strip clubs remained the same only the prices have gone up a little, 3 k entry 8 k room and 17 k for the girl. I say Angels is the best one.

I was very extremely happy and satisfied with Intimcity and a TG agency. On both occasions I did not pre pay and I advise you not to agree to any prepayment either.

Intimcity girl 23 yo / 173 cm slender firm body, pleasant face and just really good service. 17 k for an hour it was really good but I would suggest you search the website carefully and really put some effort into it. Before I arrived in Moscow I was in contact with a TG agency who claim to be in the higher end segment. I previously inquired about 3 girls from their channel whose price ranged from 40 k, 50 k to 100 k for 2 hours. So on my last night I asked them if the 40 k and 50 k girls were available. They said the 50 k girl wasn't available but can send the 40 k girl over to my hotel without any pre-payment. About 2 hours later an elite looking girl arrived at my door. Wow how pleasantly surprised I was, she was not the same girl in the photo but looked very similar and looked actually a lot better than the girl in the photo. Easily a 9 in the face department. I immediately think she is going to be the highlight of my trip. Well-groomed, well-dressed in addition to that smell so nice, no tattoos, skin smooth and firm like luxury silk. Matching all conditions of what elite segment should be. From all my encounters I think she is easily in the top 3. If I met her from Day 1 I would have repeated with her every night.

Contrary to what I read on the internet, Moscow was really nice, everything was smooth at the border. If anything, I felt safer walking around, and more people spoke English. Seeing the decline at Vanilia saddened me quite a bit but nonetheless a nice trip overall.

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;3054702]Visited Moscow again after almost a decade. I see some improvements, also some drawbacks. I had huge disappointment at Vanilia. Price went up but the quality of girls went down by a lot not to mention both manager and girls can be pushy salesmen. Talisman was certainly a lot better service than Vanilia but the 8's and 9's are just not there anymore. I would say strip clubs remained the same only the prices have gone up a little, 3 k entry 8 k room and 17 k for the girl. I say Angels is the best one.

I was very extremely happy and satisfied with Intimcity and a TG agency. On both occasions I did not pre pay and I advise you not to agree to any prepayment either.

Intimcity girl 23 yo / 173 cm slender firm body, pleasant face and just really good service. 17 k for an hour it was really good but I would suggest you search the website carefully and really put some effort into it. Before I arrived in Moscow I was in contact with a TG agency who claim to be in the higher end segment. I previously inquired about 3 girls from their channel whose price ranged from 40 k, 50 k to 100 k for 2 hours. So on my last night I asked them if the 40 k and 50 k girls were available. They said the 50 k girl wasn't available but can send the 40 k girl over to my hotel without any pre-payment. About 2 hours later an elite looking girl arrived at my door. Wow how pleasantly surprised I was, she was not the same girl in the photo but looked very similar and looked actually a lot better than the girl in the photo..[/QUOTE]Yes intimcity is good. Girls there are often even more good-looking in person. Bait-and-switch level is low, compared to similar sites in other countries. Go with verified profiles with decent reviews, and they rarely disappoint.

Planning to visit Moscow in some time and possibly monger. Will be using intimcity for girls. I just have a question how are these girls in terms of behavior. For example in general as most people would have noticed that Thai or Filipino girls tend to be warm and friendly and provide GFE.

Can we expect that from girls from intimcity or does it feel like transactional or at the very best they get the job done and leave? I understand language also plays a role but still a lot of thai girls can't speak English yet they can still have a very friendly and warm attitude during the session.

Would love to know other people's experience / insight who have met Russian working girls from intimcity?

[QUOTE=OldJack;3060375]Planning to visit Moscow in some time and possibly monger. Will be using intimcity for girls. I just have a question how are these girls in terms of behavior. For example in general as most people would have noticed that Thai or Filipino girls tend to be warm and friendly and provide GFE.

Can we expect that from girls from intimcity or does it feel like transactional or at the very best they get the job done and leave? I understand language also plays a role but still a lot of thai girls can't speak English yet they can still have a very friendly and warm attitude during the session.

Would love to know other people's experience / insight who have met Russian working girls from intimcity?[/QUOTE]My experience with Moscow girls is positive in general, but do remember Russians can be very straightforward if they don't like you, so be nice on your part and the girls will treat you will in most cases.

Don't expect too much regarding English. Russia is very different from Thailand or Philipines. I've met a few with somewhat fluent English but they often charge more. I've learned Russian specifically for mongering and the girls love it.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;3060815]My experience with Moscow girls is positive in general, but do remember Russians can be very straightforward if they don't like you, so be nice on your part and the girls will treat you will in most cases.

Don't expect too much regarding English. Russia is very different from Thailand or Philipines. I've met a few with somewhat fluent English but they often charge more. I've learned Russian specifically for mongering and the girls love it.[/QUOTE]Have you tried St peter always heard it is better for mongering.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3061117]Have you tried St peter always heard it is better for mongering.[/QUOTE]Was in Peter a few times and it didn't impress, but it was almost a decade ago and may there's more fun now.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3061117]Have you tried St peter always heard it is better for mongering.[/QUOTE]IMHO, St Peter is better by miles both for mongering and for being beautiful city. Moscow ladies tend to be quite snobbish -spoilt by extremely wealthy clients! Now they have all run away but will be back as soon as war finishes.

St Peter has lot of ladies from Republics as well so you can have good convo if you can speak russian just like them as second language.

I visited Moscow in March and April and honestly was disappointed. First problem credit cards do not work and it is a real torture for tourist. You have to pay everything in cash. Secondly, the girls in strip clubs are not beautiful. In the past, whenever I visit a strip club I always used to see at least several beautiful girls. Now I can see only one or two beautiful girls and sometimes even zero. Because all clubs are full of cheap working girls. In addition to chubby and dark skinned ones, most of girls have tattoos and fake boobs. I also noticed something, in most strip clubs private dance is 3000 but when you the girl 5000 she does not bring you change. When you asked for your change they bring your change with an angry face.

[QUOTE=WadPro;3063482]I visited Moscow in March and April and honestly was disappointed. First problem credit cards do not work and it is a real torture for tourist. You have to pay everything in cash. Secondly, the girls in strip clubs are not beautiful. In the past, whenever I visit a strip club I always used to see at least several beautiful girls. Now I can see only one or two beautiful girls and sometimes even zero. Because all clubs are full of cheap working girls. In addition to chubby and dark skinned ones, most of girls have tattoos and fake boobs. I also noticed something, in most strip clubs private dance is 3000 but when you the girl 5000 she does not bring you change. When you asked for your change they bring your change with an angry face.[/QUOTE]Which strip clubs did you go to?

I can agree with this sentiment on the whole regarding the scene in Russia. It just doesn't seem like what it used to be. Massage parlours like Vanilia etc. Used to be flooded with amazingly hot girl next door types. Strip clubs too. And I just feel like the average girl on the street used to be more beautiful. I've seen this downward trend in Moscow, Saint Petersburg and Kazan. Kazan is a big university city, and had a huge student population in the massage parlours. I can't understand why these student no longer work there.

Since the advent of remote working, influencer jobs, and post-war, I feel like most above average girls ply their trade in Dubai, Bali, Thailand etc. So many Russian girls working in this trade, or as influencers, fitness instructors, real estate agents etc. Or even just semi-pro sugar babies.

And a lot of average Russian girls working in Dubai getting rates 5 x what they'the get in Moscow.

Sad state of affairs.

"Moscow nightlife is not attractive anymore".

It is attractive, but not for inexperienced sex tourists. If you speak Russian and know the game, Moscow is one of the best places on earth, if not the best.

Moscow is not about strip clubs. Scroll through the profiles on Intimcity, make some calls, meet the girls, build relationship with reliable salons and find some girlfriends over time. Only sky is the limit. You can encounter really hot beauties this way. Forget about strip clubs. They are just waste of time and money like in any other country in the world.

Visiting Russia as a foreigner at this time is tough for foreigners with internet block and other shits. I can't imagine anyone would overcome all these difficulties of visiting Russia, just to waste your time and money on strip clubs that even sucked before the war. Just learn Rusky and go for real pussies.

How do you work around internet blocking? (I would never bring my own phone to Russia to start with).

Anyone been to Moscow recently or is planning a trip soon? Experienced Russia monger here, would love to share some intel, links, contacts with like-minded mongers, especially as online info is so hard to find for the country currently.

US dollar fell to 71 Rubles today which is lower then it was before the war. It was great opportunity to visit Russia when 1 Dollar was above 100 Rubles. Unfortunately going to Moscow from London is quite difficult these days.

Been lurking here for years and finally have something worth sharing. This is a bit of a long one, so grab a drink.

I fly into Moscow every few months for work, usually stay somewhere near the center, and I've done the strip-club circuit plenty of times (Aurora and Penthouse both get my nod). But this trip I decided to finally cross something off the bucket list — a proper threesome with two girls at once. Never done it before, always been a little intimidated by the logistics of it, honestly. This time I said screw it, I'm doing it right.

Instead of the clubs I went the agency route. Found a site called [URL]https://moscow-luxkatalog.com/[/URL] that a couple of guys had mentioned in passing, and spent an evening in my hotel just browsing profiles with a whiskey. What sold me over the usual sites: the photos actually looked like real shoots, not the recycled model pics you see copy-pasted across ten different agencies. I'm paranoid about bait-and-switch after getting burned in Bangkok years ago, so I did my homework — reverse-searched a few of the images, checked they weren't floating around elsewhere, and they came back clean. Prices were listed right on each profile too, no "message for rates" nonsense, which I appreciate.

I ended up locking onto two of them:

Kardi — 20, dark-haired, this smoldering Eastern look. Listed at 20,000 for the hour / 30,000 for two hours.

Lina — early twenties, quieter and more elegant type, and importantly her profile said fluent English, which mattered because I wanted at least one of them to be easy to talk to. Her rate ran a touch higher, in the 30 k / 50 k range for the longer booking.

Two very different vibes, which was exactly the contrast I was after.

The booking. I messaged the agency over WhatsApp. Fair warning — the manager's English is not great, clearly running things through translate on his end, and there were a couple of funny mix-ups. But I have to give the guy credit: he was genuinely friendly, patient, and helpful the whole way through. Never pushy, answered every dumb question I had, and when I asked him point-blank to confirm the photos were current and that the prices matched what was on the site, he confirmed both without any hedging — and he was telling the truth, which I'll get to. Broken English but zero games. I'll take that over slick-talking every time.

The one real hurdle was scheduling. Getting two girls free at the same window turned out to be the tricky part — they each had their own availability, and the times didn't line up with my original plan. I ended up shifting a work dinner and pushing a meeting to the next morning so I could grab the one evening slot where both of them were confirmed and on call. The manager coordinated it patiently over about a day of back-and-forth. Worth the hassle.

The evening. They arrived at my hotel within about fifteen minutes of each other, both dressed sharp, and — this is the part I was nervous about — both looked exactly like their photos. Not "close enough," exactly. Kardi in person has this presence that the pictures actually undersell, and Lina's English was as good as advertised, which broke the ice fast and made the whole thing feel relaxed instead of transactional. The rates were precisely what the site listed and what the manager quoted — no surprise "extras," no renegotiation at the door. That alone puts this place ahead of half the agencies I've dealt with.

I won't turn this into a Penthouse Letters submission, but the short version: for a first threesome it could not have gone smoother. The two of them clearly had an easy rapport with each other, which takes all the awkwardness out of it — nobody's standing around not knowing what to do. Drinks first, a lot of laughing, and they basically took the lead and made a nervous first-timer feel like he'd done this a hundred times. Kardi brings the fire, Lina brings the finesse, and together it just worked. Time absolutely flew and I ran well over what I'd planned to.

Ratings: Kardi a solid 9 on looks, Lina a 9 on the whole package with the English being a genuine bonus. Communication with the agency a 7 (points off only for the language barrier, which the friendliness more than made up for). Photo / price accuracy a 10 — everything was exactly as listed.

Bottom line: if you're thinking about a duo in Moscow and you're the paranoid type like me about real photos and honest pricing, [URL]https://moscow-luxkatalog.com/[/URL] delivered on both. Do yourself a favor and sort the scheduling a day ahead so you can line up two girls at once — that was the only friction, and it was on me for booking last-minute. First threesome, no regrets, already thinking about who to book next trip.

Cheers, and stay safe out there!

Question: Are there still any native Russian speakers on this forum?

I spent the better part of 10 years in Russia. The first 5 traveling in and out for business and the last 5 living and working there. I had a Russian language teacher who came to my office every week and so my language skills were respectable. I worked with a lot of local Russians so I could lapse into the informal "Te" when out with the boys having beers and I could even ask a girl (politely) if she wanted to have sex with me.

But in all that time I never could figure out how to talk dirty to a girl or even speak in a sexual manner. I mean, I could ask, "would you like to have sex with me?" But I had no idea how to tell a girl that I wanted to "fuck her brains out". I just did not have the vocabulary. The ability to conduct sexy pillow talk was just not there.

So if any native Russian speakers would be so kind as to offer some instruction or some useful phrases, I am sure that I am not the only one who would be grateful!

Bolshoi Spaceebo!

Hi comrades,

Been back on the Moscow Strip clubs and massage parlours. Favourites for views is Penthouse as they do a lot of fully naked dances on the public stages. Heard that Burlesque and Angels also do but haven't been to either so would be glad if someone can confirm, or if they know any others that have fully naked public dances (a lot of clubs do fully naked only in private)?

Vanilla and Your Dolls are my fave massage parlours, although have to negotiate for add-ONS.

Wondering if there are any massage parlours that have blowjob ending as a standard add-on / fixed price option to an erotic massage without having to negotiate?

And would also love to hear other people's recommendations for strip club with best views- ie fully nude on public stages?

Lot of fun to be had here!

[QUOTE=Raymando;3086560]Hi comrades,

Been back on the Moscow Strip clubs and massage parlours. Favourites for views is Penthouse as they do a lot of fully naked dances on the public stages. Heard that Burlesque and Angels also do but haven't been to either so would be glad if someone can confirm, or if they know any others that have fully naked public dances (a lot of clubs do fully naked only in private)?

Vanilla and Your Dolls are my fave massage parlours, although have to negotiate for add-ONS.

Wondering if there are any massage parlours that have blowjob ending as a standard add-on / fixed price option to an erotic massage without having to negotiate?

And would also love to hear other people's recommendations for strip club with best views- ie fully nude on public stages?

Lot of fun to be had here![/QUOTE]With the caveat that I haven't been since Covid, the same guy owns Penthouse Angels Aurora and the Loft. And the format is identical. Used to also have a car to take you between them which I did once or twice. I've done the inside the loop trifecta of penthouse angels aurora but never made it as far as Loft.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3086588]With the caveat that I haven't been since Covid, the same guy owns Penthouse Angels Aurora and the Loft. And the format is identical. Used to also have a car to take you between them which I did once or twice. I've done the inside the loop trifecta of penthouse angels aurora but never made it as far as Loft.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I heard about that group of strip clubs owned by the same guy and have been to a few of them. They're all pretty good and similar as you mentioned. Is it just that group with public fully nude dances or are there any other clubs not in that group also with public fully nude?

Cheers.