[QUOTE=Prosal].Cow was a great blower though. [/QUOTE]
Isn't this often the case? A girl with less to work with makes up for it in other ways I have often found.
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[QUOTE=Prosal].Cow was a great blower though. [/QUOTE]
Isn't this often the case? A girl with less to work with makes up for it in other ways I have often found.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Isn't this often the case? A girl with less to work with makes up for it in other ways I have often found.[/QUOTE]
Can't say. I'm not really used to fuck cows, pigs, horses or medusas (and all in-between) .... at least never before having downed a good dozen of well-dosed Black Russians (vodka + kalhua) and a few long-neck Baltikas.
;)
BTW got my first heathquake last week. It lasted only 45 seconds maybe, but it was impressive indeed. A scale of 6,8 radio said later.
It scared the shit out of the girl I was suntanning and flirting with at the Radisson's pool. She said it was quite frequent here but this was the strongest she ever lived. She is only 19 yo though. :)
After almost five weeks here, I have to nuance a bit the remarks I made on the very first post I made after only four days in Tashkent.
[QUOTE=Prosal]I can t say that even if the city is nice, the nightlife quite good and the ratio of attractive women almost as good as in Moldova (with more diversity though) or in Romania, I am really over-impressed by Tashkent. [/QUOTE]
Was false. Franckly, without over-hyping the situation nor overdoing, I find that there is a higher density of hot women here in Tashkent than any other city I've been to or I can think of, Bucarest and Chisinau included. The more time I spend here and the more I realise that Tashkent (at least in the center and cosmopolitan bowels) carries an insane number of gorgeous women from all ethenicities (tatars/persians, russians, asians, ect, and all in between). Lethal creatures I'd even say.
Yet I am not totally objective perhaps as I have a fascination for persian/tatar looks combined with hot russian bodies, exactly the variety that abounds here. :)
[QUOTE=Prosal]First it is by NO MEANS a kind of "untouched secret garden" or even an "under-visited destination". The city is literally crawling with turkish and indian mongers. I mean crawling ...in the clubs, the cafes, the malls, they are everywhere, and in high numbers. I personally find it disturbing. [/QUOTE]
Was false. Turkish/arabs mongers are very concentrated in a few bars and clubs (essentially in Diplomat and in lower numbers in Sky and Juliano) and a mall (Mir). If you want to avoid them just leave those spots and go in places like JSmockers (my fav cafe), KTKomka, Basha, Niagara, ect. Some turkish guys seem to be pretty nice and classy fellows BTW, unfortunatly some others are disgusting pigs.Oh, there's also Indian and Paki mongers. Those suckers can't hold alcohol and are really annoying.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Also pros are plentiful and everywhere (and cheap) as stated in the previous posts, yet I wouldn t caracterise them nor of overly pretty (with some exceptions happily), nor of overly fresh and nor of overly friendly. I won t blame them though. Dealing all year-long with turk "gentlemen" is not the best way to be happy in life.[/QUOTE]
Was false. As Roger stated, 1/3 of the pros are unfuckable cows and pigs, 1/3 are relatively good looking but look like they've been working for too long and 1/3 are hot, wild and fun top-level beauties.
[QUOTE=Prosal]The good news is that the non-pro/freebie scene seems awesome, especially when you are a decent looking westerner (non-turk). Girls are more conservative than their slavic counterparts yet seem more eager to meet europeans/us guys (since four days I am here I never spotted only one westerner). [/QUOTE]
Was false. Even if there's very few westerners and if girls are obviously eager to meet europeans and americans, non-pros are much more difficult to approach and to bed than slavic girls. They are either very conventional (tatars-ethnics, uzbek-ethnics) either part of the "elite" crowd (russian-ethnics) and reluctant to be seen with a foreigner. Happily there's exceptions to every rules. 3/4 of my dates have leaded to nothing, for various reasons but princioally an annoying number of dates before shagging, yet it remains the other 1/4. :)
[QUOTE=Prosal]BTW it s 43 C currently and women wear next to nothing. :)[/QUOTE]
Was true. Now it's only 35 C and women still wear next to nothing. :)
Hope this help.
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Fly Guy II.
Sorry for didn't meet you. Hope you had a good time in Tashkent.
I wouldn't have been a good wingman this week anyway. I just recover from a cornea brisure from a brawl with some crazy drunken indian suckers Tuesday night and I spent half of the week with a bandage hiding my eye and covering half of my face and going twice a day to the eye-clinic in Yunusabad district (far), in mood for nothing (except for overposting on ISG though ;)), even for GFs.
Doctor just told me this afternoon that it was ok and that I don't need no more bandage. Tonight gonna be a night I tell you my friend. :)
Prosal. You say its your 5th week there. Is it possible to get a tourist visa for 3 months? If yes, how to go about it?
No.
Tourist visa is one month at max, and business visa (which I took) is two monthes at max.
Is It possible to go to neighboring Kyrgistan and then come back with another 2 monyh visa from Ouzbek ambassy in bishkek?
Prosal's salacious reports and my affinity for exotic babes with curvy bodies made me hop through infinite hoops to get to this unexplored Stan.
Just got in, but I think good times..real good times are ahead.
See the photo below to see what a 100 bucks looks like in som. How is man supposed to carry around so much loot...my wallet simply can't hold it all.
Lol
Yeah, those heaps of bills (for the guys who've never been in Uz : biggest bill is 1000 soums/$0.75) in pockets are VERY annoying !!
How Tashkent is treating you DD ?
The variety and beauty of the women in Tashkent is unparalleled. As a veteran mongerer of Latin America, Eastern Europe, and South East Asia this is my favorite place thus far for a few reasons:
1# The women here are incredibly diverse--there is an abundance of blond Slavs, Central Asians, Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, etc), Tartars, and just about everything in between. The ethnicities and the mixtures in Uzbekistan are truly exotic. Really, who the fuck in Buffalo, NY knows what a Tartars is? I don’t know either… but the ones I met are incredibly hot, sexual, and fun to be with.
At Basha yesterday, widely regarded as the best club in Tashkent, I sat a table with a 6ft tall blonde that could easily be a runway model in Paris, a smoking hot 5’11 Uzbek/Armenian mix whose features are indescribable, and a Korean with a face and chest that made me reassess my aversion to Asian women. The girls were all uber fun, spoke a conversation enabling level of English, and created an enjoyable atmosphere without overtly and classlessly draining my pocket; ie,, they didn’t do shit like order cigarettes (and stuff them in their purse for later) or drink 25 dollars cocktails that they would only order with a silly foreigner. The girls were cool with vodka, fruit, Baltica, and the occasional RedBull.
****Update, this is not entirely true. Just more so than in Moldova or Odessa. However, I don’t feel cheated here when I spend money on the girls. I have yet to not get what I wanted from them after spending money on bullshit for them****
2# The girls here are tall and curvy. The girls here are tall and curvy. Even the chicks with Asiatic features are taller, bustier, and more curvaceous than what one would normally identify with an Asian chick. The number of 6ftish tall blondes around here rivals Riga.
#3. The hookers here seem not to appear overly jaded…perhaps the most shocking of all. The Uzbek hookers in Dubai and Bangkok are just as cold blooded and morally spineless as one would expect from any hooker. But once they cross the border they seem to become “requanited” with their Islamic and Central Asian hospitality. I don’t know how to describe it but there is GENERALLY less bullshit here with prostitutes that I have encountered elsewhere. Yes, they ask for any take money for sex but they seem to care about the client as a person as opposed to just seeing him as a someone to take as much from in as little time as possible. A few examples: (1) I fucked a ***** from Diplomat last night for free. I just bought her drinks, entertained her, and fucked the shit out of her for three hours. She was there for business but was capable for abandoning her goal to have fun. I get the impression this type of experience here is more prevalent than one may think. (2) I took two sisters home from Diplomat that argued with the taxi driver for overcharging me 1500 som (about $1.20), fucked and sucked me silly for two nuts, washed and ironed my clothes, cleaned up my place, and recharged my mobile phone credit for me. I feel as if in addition to sex, my dollars purchase local hospitality and a temporary guardian for my immediate interests.
prosal is correct in saying that there are large numbers of non-western mongers here; however, there is not a pent up reservoir of short term sex tourists here without a short-term sex tourist infrastructure. in places where this exists, it creates an atmosphere which is devoid of any sense of honor or morality. a place where the spoken word means nothing—where the sex tourist lies and misrepresents himself from the moment he steps off the plane and where whatever the dyev says can be assumed to be patently false.
in tashkent, many of the non-westerners mongereers are people with business interests here and are totally capable and willing to sponsor/provide for a girl’s needs for 6 months, 12 months, and perhaps even longer. about 20-30 % (2 or 3) of the girls i met in diplomat had taken a john from a prostitution den, went back with him to a gulf state or turkey, and lived comfortably as a 2nd wife, mistress, or kept girlfriend. unfortunately, they all had a sob (but true) story of why they are back working again—man went bankrupt, man got sick of her and sent her home with 50 bucks, or man got sick of her and had her deported one am.
as culturally insensitive as this may sound, the unaviablty of pussy in the islamic world makes muslims much more prone to turn a hooe into a housewife. most dudes in indiana won’t pick up a chick from a massage parlor and propose to her before the hand job is over. some of these arabs not only utter the words but follow through with it!!
the downside of this is, from the photos i have seen, some of the arab and turks really spoil these girls—expensive vacations, nice apartments, designer shopping trips, cash for not only the girls but for the immediate family too. kinda weird…i don’t think that these guys even see the girls as humans, just barbie dolls capable of speech to be enjoyed until they are no longer amusing.
**** a former bristish ambassador to uzbekistan married a sometime $200 a date prostitute and full time exotic dancer that he met at the strip club fm. it created a big brougha in the english press. this type of behavior is not an anomaly in tashkent, thus it creates a more enjoyable experience for mongering. the women here are not just into doing as little as possible, for as little time as possible, for as much money as possible as 80% of the *****s in the world do. you can google “bristish ambassador, uzbekistan, stripper” if you want to read about this. seems like my kind of guy, solving the world’s problems by day and cavorting around in shady night clubs, visiting houses of ill repute , and banging strippers at night.****
it’s not easy for a westerner to get here; for americans it’s almost prohibitive. the number of hoops and expenses--letter of invitation, $300 somewhat arbitrary but unavoidable visa fee, crazy ass uzbekistan airways prices, etc--to get here are immense. currently, the situation here does not allow for much western investment (turks are in neck deep though) or engagement (the us military and supporting personnel were expelled here along with the peace corp volunteers and a sizable embassy contingent a few years ago when the president’s boiling (literally) of dissidents was protested by the usg.
political bs aside, what this means to me and you is that the westerner that comes here is not fucking around…the appearance of a many a westerner means the penultimate culmination of the internet marriage game. while the girls are aware that the bullshitters, fantasy seekers, and one handed posters who they exchange emails with from the many dating sights will often be done for naught, when the man actually gets on a plane to come to tashkent he more than likely will not be a single man when he departs. from what i gather, the man contacts an agency, the agency arranges between 5-10 girls to “view”, the man makes his selection, begins the paperwork for marriage, and a few months later his new bride joins him in his native land. one agency told me that about 75% of the men who come here looking for a wife close the deal in country
either i am becoming less judgmental and more tolerant or morphing into the man that i used to snicker at, but, i now admire the forthrightness of the whole process. i want a smart girl with big titties over 5’9 to marry with under 26 years of age. why waste time, fake ass smiles, and money combing the world for such a lady when i can have 5-10 of them appear in quick succession in front of me for around a grand?
the 4 girls i met so far in this process were “eager to win the game” and three slept with me the first date with little cajoling. i am not entirely convinced that these girls are all good girls, one said she was a model in dubai and knew the exact prices and guest policies of every hotel in tashkent, but sometimes bad girls on good behavior is a pretty cool thing. although i would have serious reservation about marrying a former prostitute for her obvious character flaws and likely psychological issues, there are tons of former sex workers here that appear to offer good behavior in exchange for stability.
this is a very marriage oritentaed society. in the villages the girls get married at 16 and in the capital a few years later…many of the men turn out to be abusive and poor providers so the girl does what she feels she must to support herself and her kids. i met many a 21 year old girl here with a five year old and a three year old now on the circuit.
marriage seems to be a very functional thing here. when people found out that i am single they arrange dates with their friend for me, and within three dates thereafter i receive an sms or phone call indicating that the girl “wants to marry with you, ok?” love doesn’t enter the marriage occasion in tashkent apparently. the primary consideration of the lady is how much money you have shortly followed by how much you drink.
i met a high class ($350 a night discounted rate in tashkent and $1500 a day outisde) call girl and partied with her for a few days. she used my memory stick to print out her business class flight and $600 a night hotel itinerary for a five day hooking trip to dubai. she also had a sheengen visa and told me that she would return from dubai with $10,000. i knew that she was telling the truth. this type of lifestyle and girl is certainly well beyond any of our means.
anyway, to make a long story short, she agreed that if i hired a housekeeper, didn’t talk too much, and bought her an x5 that she would “marry with” me because she is getting old (25) and is sick of going to dubai because it is too hot. no fucking joke. although i wasn’t as rich as she was used to she would sacrifice (presumably) a few hundred k because i was “handsome and made her laugh.” unbelievable: as bad as these girls may be, they still feel that marriage and children complete them as a woman.
finally, my experience has been slightly different than prosals in that i have not felt that girls here were ashamed to be seen with a foreigner. i suspect that this was mixture of the type of girls that i am cavorting with---prostitutes who have traveled abroad and done the walk of shame more times to remember and girls who were looking for a husband. they not only don’t mind being seen in my presence but give a good deal of pda too.
i will write more but am out of action for awhile as the central asian porcelin gods are making me pray to them.
The girls and bar employees say that the price is for 1-2 hours but the girls seem to stay later as they are all freelancers with little responsibilities.
1. Skybar, around the back of the Tata hotel. Was there for about ten minutes but left as it was a little down market for my taste. An Indian owner who was very polite and the girls seemed to be ok. The waitresses spoke excellent English. A black chick there that I have vowed to bone before I depart.
2. Rich Club, in Deademan hotel. A place soley for hookers for foreigners. Local men are not allowed to enter. Smallish with 8-15 girls. Rather hit or miss regarding the quality. $75-$150 bucks.
3. Diplomat. A few cuties, full of working girls (25-45), tall blond girls doing a floor show that I want to fuck ($200 I hear), the WGs there go for anywhere from free to $150. Not wow, drop dead gorgeous chicks, but some ok ones. Decent atmosphere. It should be noted that not all girls are working there.
4. Basha/Club 25 across from the Grand Mir next to the Fashion Bar and the all night Japanese restaurant. A normal disco but with a few working girls at the Bar and a group or two of high class escorts at the tables. The current “in-place” of Tashkent.
Nice Cafes & Bars:
All of the following are frequented by girls who have sold themselves for money but may be unapproachable without the right hook up. A few are obvious hookers but the really pretty ones are not.
1. J. Smokers. A nice place with a full menu and a great terrace. Expensive by local standards.
2. Chelsea Pub. Open til 0500 -0600. Screwed a blonde girl that had worked in Dubai for free from there. (well, not really as the bill for her and her friends was well over a 100 Euros) Lots of fancy cars outside. Obviously a place for the local elite.
3. Irish Pub. A place for expats, with the occasional good looking working girl visiting. Not a hooker bar by any means, and full of Western expats that have been abroad for too long, but a nice place to take a date.
Thanks DirkDingy for the interesting reports and perspectives.
[QUOTE=DirkDingy]The variety and beauty of the women in Tashkent is unparalleled.The women here are incredibly diverse--there is an abundance of blond Slavs, Central Asians, Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, etc), Tartars, and just about everything in between. The ethnicities and the mixtures in Uzbekistan are truly exotic.[/QUOTE]
Right. The variety of the women in Tashkent is truly unequalled. The beauty also IMHO. Gorgeous faces from all exotic ethnicities combined with hot russian bodies do create some lethal combinations, unseen elsewhere indeed.
[QUOTE=DirkDingy]Nice Cafes & Bars : 3. Irish Pub.[/QUOTE]
I know pretty well L***, the tall brasileira-look-alike barmaid there. I know her more than pretty well in fact. :)