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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2472773]My favorite Soi 6 bar. Imo way better looking girls than other Soi 6 bars in the Good old Days of 2019 pre-COVID. Not for the faint of heart due to their non Soi 6 pricing.
BTW have pseudo gogo bar places like Tim's Bar Beer and Papagayo reopened?[/QUOTE]I think Tim is but Papagayo is still closed?
[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2472780]This post is probably more appropriate under the "Stupid shit in Thailand" thread, as I don't see much discussion of massage parlors.
Do not presume the political orientation of people who write stuff. Black Lives Matters peaceful demonstrators in the US do not wear masks, except to escape facial recognition. Many anarchists are against masks out of principle.
The "We are guests in their country" argument is correct. I wear masks only when and where I see 90% of the Thai wearing a mask. Essentially: shopping malls, taxi and BTS / MRT. It's still a bummer because I don't think that masks make any difference (except in a hospital setting), but I bow to social pressure.
I am just saying that nobody is wearing masks around the Phrom Phong oilies, and thank Buddha for that! It would be kind of a joke, given the level of physical intimacy we reach in the bedroom, no? I just find it funny that I get my temperature checked at the entrance of a supermarket but not as the entrance of a brothel.[/QUOTE]Hi Eric,
Agree, more appropriate in "Stupid shit in Thailand'.
"Do not presume the political orientation of people who write stuff". Don't know what exactly that means. I imagine it has something to do with what I said re "Trumpers" and mask wearing.
Don't see the connection between Black Lives Matter, anarchists and wearing masks although it sounds political.
Totally not with you and fair to say neither are most epidemiologists / healthcare professionals when it comes to whether wearing masks make a difference and in the US if I may say while again not presuming any political orientation the wearing of masks is totally politicized.
Agree P4P and mask wearing while possible and although I've done it it is admittedly somewhat incongruous if not a bummer turn off.
[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2472780]This post is probably more appropriate under the "Stupid shit in Thailand" thread, as I don't see much discussion of massage parlors.
Do not presume the political orientation of people who write stuff. Black Lives Matters peaceful demonstrators in the US do not wear masks, except to escape facial recognition. Many anarchists are against masks out of principle.
The "We are guests in their country" argument is correct. I wear masks only when and where I see 90% of the Thai wearing a mask. Essentially: shopping malls, taxi and BTS / MRT. It's still a bummer because I don't think that masks make any difference (except in a hospital setting), but I bow to social pressure.
I am just saying that nobody is wearing masks around the Phrom Phong oilies, and thank Buddha for that! It would be kind of a joke, given the level of physical intimacy we reach in the bedroom, no? I just find it funny that I get my temperature checked at the entrance of a supermarket but not as the entrance of a brothel.[/QUOTE]Don't worry Eric, I know exactly what you meant and I think any reasonable reader would also have known. Nobody is wearing a mask in the oilies. Franciscass is just totally and utterly obsessed with Donald Trump and feels the need to announce that at every possible opportunity on this forum even though nobody is at all interested in his hysterical rants. I appreciated your report.
[QUOTE=*****man;2472862]Don't worry Eric, I know exactly what you meant and I think any reasonable reader would also have known. Nobody is wearing a mask in the oilies. Franciscass is just totally and utterly obsessed with Donald Trump and feels the need to announce that at every possible opportunity on this forum even though nobody is at all interested in his hysterical rants. I appreciated your report.[/QUOTE]Hi *****man.
I'm sure Eric is more than capable explaining himself on mask wearing and with a little more restraint than your rant. Not sure which button I pushed to deserve such displeasure but I suspect it has more than a little to do with your own political sensibilities. You might try practicing a little civility when you disagree, personalizing differences of opinion only diminishes the merit of your position even when it has little merit to begin with.
Take care.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2473000]Hi *****man.
I'm sure Eric is more than capable explaining himself on mask wearing and with a little more restraint than your rant. Not sure which button I pushed to deserve such displeasure but I suspect it has more than a little to do with your own political sensibilities. You might try practicing a little civility when you disagree, personalizing differences of opinion only diminishes the merit of your position even when it has little merit to begin with.
Take care.[/QUOTE]This was an excellent response. I highly advise Admin to place this in bold block letters at the heading of each page so posters of questionable intellect can be aware. There are too many of them on this board. Very eloquently put sir!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2473395]This was an excellent response. I highly advise Admin to place this in bold block letters at the heading of each page so posters of questionable intellect can be aware. There are too many of them on this board. Very eloquently put sir![/QUOTE]So you and your wank buddy can talk about masks and Donald Trump. Meanwhile all the posters who actually contributed relevant reports have left because they're sick of that tedious shit. Well done.
[QUOTE=*****man;2473416]So you and your wank buddy can talk about masks and Donald Trump. Meanwhile all the posters who actually contributed relevant reports have left because they're sick of that tedious shit. Well done.[/QUOTE]Dear W*man,
Worshiping at the feet of false prophets has made you dark in your understanding and brought hardness to your heart but you are forgiven for you know not what you do.
Stay well and stay safe my friend.
[QUOTE=*****man;2473416]So you and your wank buddy can talk about masks and Donald Trump. Meanwhile all the posters who actually contributed relevant reports have left because they're sick of that tedious shit. Well done.[/QUOTE]And you 821 posts without one single trip report only jumping on guys who post reports or photos saying the girls are ugly when you never posted one photo. Stop cluttering this forum with your negativity. Don't you hear your mother calling you?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2473684]And you 821 posts without one single trip report only jumping on guys who post reports or photos saying the girls are ugly when you never posted one photo. Stop cluttering this forum with your negativity. Don't you hear your mother calling you?[/QUOTE]We have a number of disciples of the dear leader on the forum. What I find interesting is the extreme visceral nature of the reaction of some of them at even the most innocuous mention of their savior. They may even feel these heretics should be burnt at the stake or have a Fatwa issued against them or worse still horror of all horrors caste out and banished from the forum for life.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2474634]A friend of mine is in BKK right now. He tells me things are pretty amazing girl wise. For example, the other night he went to Baccara and Sharks on Cowboy. He had not been there for a long time. He saw a girl he once knew who used to work pre-Corona in Nana. Back then she was one of the most popular girls in Rainbow 4 and usually enjoyed 2 barfines per night. My friend had even barfined her a couple of times but then stopped because she was kind of cold and mechanical despite her hot looks. We all know the type: minimal DFK, no DATY, covered mish sex only, and in the bathroom cleaning up the second the session is over.
So he sees her over in a popular Cowboy Go Go, but does not call her over on account of his past experience with this one. There are maybe 5 or 6 other customers in the bar and it is a Saturday night - 10 pm. Eventually she wanders over to him and says Hello,. He offers her a drink for ol' times sake and she sits down, sips her drink and begins fooling around with his crotch under the table with her free hand. Long story short, he barfines her, takes her back to his apartment, and guess what? She is a different girl than the one he knew pre Corona: DFK and a BJ in the shower and another one on the bed. Then she moves up in between his legs and begins to mount him bareback. He gives her a surprised look and she responds, this OK, with a smile. Get the picture? And when it is all over she lays next to him on her side and caresses him. Later she asks if he wants to do it again. He says no not now and she says OK, but I can stay the night and we can boom boom in the morning, no extra charge if you want.[/QUOTE]You got it, it's a pure heaven on earth, total solar eclipse, blue moon once in a lifetime experience. To walk into a go go and have pretty much every chic there want to spend time with you is the stuff of dreams. I'm still expecting to wake up.
Too bad Natty you're sadly missing it. Knowing you're a go go habitue you of all people would appreciate the lack of competition for the top talent girls.
Whoops ink disappearing again.
You got it, it's a pure heaven on earth, total solar eclipse, blue moon once in a lifetime experience. To walk into a go go and have pretty much every chic there want to spend time with you is the stuff of dreams. I'm still expecting to wake up.
Too bad Natty you're sadly missing it. Knowing you're a go go habitue you of all people would appreciate the lack of competition for the top talent girls and how appreciative they are back in the room when you pick them.
Whoops got to go post becoming invisible again.
Bye Natty, stay safe.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2474634]A friend of mine is in BKK right now. He tells me things are pretty amazing girl wise. For example, the other night he went to Baccara and Sharks on Cowboy. He had not been there for a long time. He saw a girl he once knew who used to work pre-Corona in Nana. Back then she was one of the most popular girls in Rainbow 4 and usually enjoyed 2 barfines per night. My friend had even barfined her a couple of times but then stopped because she was kind of cold and mechanical despite her hot looks. We all know the type: minimal DFK, no DATY, covered mish sex only, and in the bathroom cleaning up the second the session is over.
So he sees her over in a popular Cowboy Go Go, but does not call her over on account of his past experience with this one. There are maybe 5 or 6 other customers in the bar and it is a Saturday night - 10 pm. Eventually she wanders over to him and says Hello,. He offers her a drink for ol' times sake and she sits down, sips her drink and begins fooling around with his crotch under the table with her free hand. Long story short, he barfines her, takes her back to his apartment, and guess what? She is a different girl than the one he knew pre Corona: DFK and a BJ in the shower and another one on the bed. Then she moves up in between his legs and begins to mount him bareback. He gives her a surprised look and she responds, this OK, with a smile. Get the picture? And when it is all over she lays next to him on her side and caresses him. Later she asks if he wants to do it again. He says no not now and she says OK, but I can stay the night and we can boom boom in the morning, no extra charge if you want.
This is the kind of attitude change I keep hearing more and more about from friends and fellow punters who are in BKK at the moment during the pandemic. It is like a golden era that happens once every 50 years or so. I wish I was in BKK right now! [/QUOTE]That is similar to my experiences now as well, but only with girls I have been with before. Same situation as what your friend told you. The girls I have been with before are contacting me, flagging me over in the bars and, when I session with them again, are treating me better than ever and asking for less.
But new girls are a completely different matter now. Finding one worth even considering to repeat is as elusive if not more elusive than ever. For me.
Monday night I made the rounds in 4 Nana Plaza go-go bars, a Soi 7 beer bar and passed by 1 attractive FL sitting alone outside Thermae. As desolate as the streets and nearly empty of customers as the bars are most times these days, Monday night would probably be the worst night. But the bars were packed with girls.
I bought drinks and experienced terrific in-bar chemistry with 5 better than average but not stunner girls in the bars and the good looking Thermae girl practically tackled me as I walked by.
Yet I still got six "NO" replies to BBFS in a row even though I offered 2,500 - 3,000 baht to the girl if she agreed to it (plus barfine in the venues that applied). I had gotten so many BBBJ+CIMs lately, that night I did not include it as an option. And I was actually curious to see what the state of the Bangkok scene was without my favorite mamasans bringing a suitable girl to me so I did not interact with them.
I went back to my apartment alone about 11:30pm that night with the designated 2,500 - 3,000 baht still in my pocket.
And, yep, I had to say "NO" to offers to come over from a half dozen fine regulars and repeats willing to walk through fire for me that night just to have a free night to get said "NO" to by six new girls instead. Lol
Originally Posted by Franciscass (View Original Post).
A) The point I was making was <snip girls who refused (BB) I believe felt there were associated health / pregnancy risks.
B) Girls say no but you say later most do bare body. If true why when they say no initially? You explanation which if true is sad reflection on our fellow mongers.
1)"Most punters who get bareback here get it after tying up her time, plying her with many drinks, leading up to crunch time in the room where if she doesn't watch her step she has every reason to believe she might be put out with little or no money for her whole night. That is, if she is sober enough to think much about it at all".
2)"manipulation techniques we read about on these threads from guys who apply them".
Invisible Man.
Still Invisible, but it's not important.
A) Sometimes the girls are risk averse and sometimes they have other reasons I have yet to fathom. Ha Ha. On several occasions in different countries I have started out in bareback, had good sex in multiple positions for 40 minutes or so and then decided I had had enough and pulled out. The girls inuires, " you finish?" I say, "yeah I finish. Everything good. " Then she inspects the condom, sees it is empty, is surprised and a little perplexed and the next think I know she is blowing me, getting me hard again, and before too long off we go into bareback land and I unload big in her vagina. Now if you ask me why these particular girls and I had to start off with a condom, couldn't tell you except to say maybe they were shy or suffering from peer pressure. Who knows? I am just here to report I can recall every one of those trysts. They were all memorable although they most certainly did not start out that way. Girls change their minds all the time.
B) Why do girls say no and later say yes. Who the hell knows. They are girls that's why. But when they say no you have to respect it. But later if they change there minds, great, you can respect that too.
1) Women and liquor (an other aphrodisiacs) go back in time to when the first farmers figured out fermented grape juice made you silly. Booze loosens things up for girls and boys. There is nothing wrong with partying and getting loose with a girl or girls as long as she / they are over 18 (the legal age of consent) and she consents. The red line is reached when something, anything is against her will or she as soon as she is not happy with it. Always be a gentleman, never be a sucker, a fool, or a rapist. Some assholes think slipping a girl a ruffie is a good idea. But without consent it is rape.
2) Other than that, what manipulation techniques are you talking about? I must have missed those posts. I mean most of us try to put our best foot forward and impress the girl in one way or another. I find genuinely liking the girls and treating them like girls and not working girls creates a good vibe that goes along way towards my goal of GFE and having a good time. It is all part of my approach or technique. So is flitting while buying them drinks and getting acquainted. My prospective bar girls always have their choice of drinks; tequila or sugar water. I am never in a rush to barfine. That is of my technique as well. And then back in my hotel room I usually have a bottle of quality Anejo Tequila waiting. I offer the girls a drink, but it is always up to them. I never drink alone.
And then when it starts getting sexual, once again the girl has free choice always. 1% to 2% of the time I get a bad one: No kissing, no fun in the shower, or only covered BJ. When this happens I just show her the door with taxi fare and a little more to make her go quietly and then I head out again. Roughly 25% to 30% of the time the girl and I bareback. I gather this stat is significantly lower than EihTooms, but that is ok with me. Tequila does improve my percentages. 555. Repeats have a much higher positive effect on my percentages. Roughly 75% of my Thai girls will bareback me on the 2nd or 3rd get together. National origin has a larger positive effect as well. My initial first time bareback percentages are higher in the PI, Phnom Penh, Yangon, and Jakarta an lower in Macau all else being equal.
I just thought I would throw in my personal stats for a comparison basis. I have no idea what the mean is on barebacking Thai hookers. The main point of this post was to ask and clarify what manipulation techniques you are referring to and to say that not all manipulation techniques designed to get a girl in bed passionately doing what you want are bad. I think girls want guys to want them and I think they also prefer guys that know how to do them and in a reasonable and satisfying way. If a girl likes you, yes even as a pro, she will do a lot more to make you happy.
On several occasions in different countries I have started out covered, had good sex in multiple positions for 40 minutes or so and then decided I had had enough and pulled out. The girls inquire, " you finish?" I say, "yeah I finish. Everything good. " Then she inspects the condom, sees it is empty, is surprised and a little perplexed and the next think I know she is blowing me, getting me hard again, and before too long off we go into bareback land and I unload in her vagina.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2475388]On several occasions in different countries I have started out covered, had good sex in multiple positions for 40 minutes or so and then decided I had had enough and pulled out. The girls inquire, " you finish?" I say, "yeah I finish. Everything good. " Then she inspects the condom, sees it is empty, is surprised and a little perplexed and the next think I know she is blowing me, getting me hard again, and before too long off we go into bareback land and I unload in her vagina.[/QUOTE]Well me each time I'm in Pattaya or in PP, I never ask about condoms! Usually I always lick their pussy first, they love that and then I directly fuck them and they never ask me to put a condom! Even when there are condoms on the bed! Only few girls ask me TIP when I fuck them without! And of course I give them money!
And I always come inside their pussy! I'm an addict of creampies. I think I barebacked about a hundred girls in Pattaya, and I think I fucked the most beautiful girls of Pattaya! I spend a lot of time in Pattaya or on facebook or Tinder to find sexy working girls! I always fuck girls 18/25.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2475875]Well me each time I'm in Pattaya or in PP, I never ask about condoms! Usually I always lick their pussy first, they love that and then I directly fuck them and they never ask me to put a condom! Even when there are condoms on the bed! [/QUOTE]Yeah, good one. I sometimes think DATY works better than Tequila, but it depends on the girl. I enjoy going down on girls too.