Istanbul

It seems to me that we are arguing a mute point and all of us are really on the same team in this respect. How much guys pay for sex is their own business. Thanks to ISG/WSG, we should all know what the market price is and as we know, the market price varies greatly due to a number of factors.

Normally we wouldnt care at all what others pay, but there are always the issues of general price increases in the market due to overpaying. I dont think this is the case here.

I know little about Istanbul beyond what our fellow posters have graciously posted, including Big Bro AJ and Priamos. Thanks to all of you for keeping this board active. Someday I will come to Istanbul and reread the posts here to gather info before my trip.

Since my name was mentioned however, I do feel I should state that as far as Moscow goes, Big Bro AJ is paying market prices, not more. He goes to expensive places and pays their normal prices. Its his choice to go there and its his money to spend as he pleases on whom he pleases.

It sounds like he has some great parties, so more power to him.

As mentioned before, Aksaray is by far not the sole place for mongering, just the most straightforward location for a limited span of time..

Overspending naively and/or exhibiting the lack of hitting the target after so much advice on this forum seems totally illogical..

If you wanna get away with the minimum charge free of tips and so on, certainly Serenda and Balance are the ideal places...:)

Vega,

Watch out.

Some claimed that I got commission from the girls and/or pimps. If my mind doesn’t play tricks some one also accused you getting commission from Serenda and Balance to mention their names.


Istanbul is the place where you may find girls from 40 YTL to 500YTL. All depends on what you are looking for and how much you’re willing to pay for it.


Carry and Iveta are in town on November 21-24, 2005. They ask 300 Euro. [url]http://www.escortchic.com/tours.html[/url] is the contact info.

And, Diane will be back on December 11-16,2005. [url]http://escorts.gnomick.com/Escorts_for_men/0044/Istanbul/index.html[/url]

Looking back at my postings these last few days I realise that I have lost my head, and almost certainly subjected BB AJ to unfair accusations. It is actually quite shameful for a man approaching mid-life to have committed a blunder common in young children: assuming that his perspective is THE perspective.

My misperception - I who come from West Europe as an infrequent visitor to Istanbul - was that the one and only reason to frequent the Istanbul mongering scene is the search for a price/quality ratio that is better than in alternative locations. Now, if one accepts this premise (and that is of course a huge "if"), then recommending girls and locations in Istanbul with prices at par with France and higher than in Central Europe is, at best, a waste of time, at worst, a sign that one is taking commissions from someone.

It was with this perspective in mind that I suggested last week that the (please read, THE) reason to indulge oneself in Istanbul is the strength of the middle segments of the markets. When BB AJ contested this point, I suspected ill will. But, again, I see now that this was an idiotic misunderstanding based on a different perspective on MY travel destination and someone ELSE's home. I too pay prices, sometimes, here in Paris that most of you might consider as insane.

Sorry for having wasted everyone's time. I can hardly ask BB AJ to forgive me for my rather acerbic attacks, but he may at least rest assured that I don't suspect him of having slept with my girlfriend. (Unless he knows something I don't???)

Now, that's a gentleman !

That is why I am reading this forum.

I have firends like yourselves (my word is not only to Priamos, but also to BB AJ, Jack Sparrow, master Vegamars and all other valuable GENTLEMEN here).

This example shows every other monger; HOW we settle arguments in Turkish Forum...

I felt proud...

Carpe Diem

[QUOTE=Priamos]
OK Apologies,

Looking back at my postings these last few days I realise that I have lost my head, and almost certainly subjected BB AJ to unfair accusations. It is actually quite shameful for a man approaching mid-life to have committed a blunder common in young children: assuming that his perspective is THE perspective.

My misperception - I who come from West Europe as an infrequent visitor to Istanbul - was that the one and only reason to frequent the Istanbul mongering scene is the search for a price/quality ratio that is better than in alternative locations. Now, if one accepts this premise (and that is of course a huge "if"), then recommending girls and locations in Istanbul with prices at par with France and higher than in Central Europe is, at best, a waste of time, at worst, a sign that one is taking commissions from someone.

It was with this perspective in mind that I suggested last week that the (please read, THE) reason to indulge oneself in Istanbul is the strength of the middle segments of the markets. When BB AJ contested this point, I suspected ill will. But, again, I see now that this was an idiotic misunderstanding based on a different perspective on MY travel destination and someone ELSE's home. I too pay prices, sometimes, here in Paris that most of you might consider as insane.

Sorry for having wasted everyone's time. I can hardly ask BB AJ to forgive me for my rather acerbic attacks, but he may at least rest assured that I don't suspect him of having slept with my girlfriend. (Unless he knows something I don't???)[/QUOTE]

I have been watching and observing the amount of will and input, art of due dilligence and creativity of all the intrinsic attributes which go into the lines on this part of the forum and do therefore would like to appreciate and admire those who have always been willing to share, and those who approach fluctuations with utmost flexibility and understanding.

Keep up the good work friends,

C U Soon

I do trust that Neyzééén has contributed a heck lot to the quality and the QUANTITY of the photo section especially with those puffy titties and the swollen labiatta majorette.

There were two small details which caught my attention which have always proven correct and they are;

Thin ankles ask for long long legs.

Long legs come with a taut tummy for free

Enjoy

Love bites

Hi there, pal.

Where the heck did you get that name? I tried to pronounce it, and it sounded like I was gargling my mouth with minty disinfectant ! (joking).

Anyway, you caught a very delicate point here : Thin Ankles !

That's the first thing I look at, when a woman walks by...Wow.

And, you have a delicate sense of perception, my friend. Thanks for also catching the point in many other issues...

Welcome.

Soccer nights such as last night are my favorite nights. Most of the local mongers focused on game. I called Olga for short session, she came to my place around 21:00 but left early in the morning.(All night cost me $100-special rate) I have known her since I moved to İstanbul. At first she was working for one of the famous mamushka; after several indecent incidents she decided to work alone.

“Fulya” is an interesting neighborhood. A kind of small CIS was established. Hundreds of girls from Belarus, Russia, Moldavia, Ukraine, Georgia, Lathvia and other states prefer to lease apartments alone or with other girl friends in this neighborhood.

And they have fixed prices. Short session (one or two pop-2 hours) $100, Long session (several pops but not more than three-3-4 hours) $150, all night long $150-200-250(max. 3 pop). You may find these girls at famous clubs//bars and 5 star hotel bars. When you see them at hotel bars, they usually ask 250-300 Euro for one pop.

They have never accepted mongers at their own houses. Lesbian and dildo shows are possible in-group sessions (threesome); BUT that cost you $200-250 per girl. They have to trust you otherwise they have never accepted it.

I know, after NT’s $50 innocent look babe, these rates may look high, but many mongers accept to pay these rates with their free wills. Of course, some lucky ones such as myself have special rates and hour options. All depends on reliable relations and how close you are. Cause all these independents talk about the customers. I may share some of the numbers with monger friends who contribute to İstanbul section.

I believe NT or his friend have that kind of special offer. According to my humble knowledge, 18 or 19 years old innocent look babe such as her can’t be seen for $50. For 18-19 years old girls, most of the mamushkas ask $100 at short sessions (max. 2 hours) and hardly accept all night. Several short sessions are always more profitable than all night long.

Therefore, I kindly raise hat to NT’s connections and babe.

Long live NT..



By the way, I love thin ankles; BUT I die for well cared feet, fishnet body, high heel boots(damn strippers); pierced nipples and belly buttons(and honey box), tattooed girls, red heads and D-DD cups….

Er... I'm now in the slightly unusual situation of having to agree with Big Bro. I also almost lost my teeth when I saw Neyzen Tevfik's latest "acquisition". You may, sometimes, come across that kind of a girl in a Muzikhol (typically a recent arrival from the FSU), but the price will be 30-50 per cent higher, there's no way she will stay 3 hours... and the chances are that 2 minutes into your conversation she'll drop the little-girl charm and turn veeery commercial. Getting all three - low price, good service and sweet teen - at the same time deserves a whole chestful of medals!!

I will be staying in Istanbul for 3 days at the beginning of Dec. Unfortunitly I have only limited time after meetings in the evening. It would be the easiest for me to pick up a girl from a hotel bar. Does anyone have recomendations or knows which hotel bar has the best choise.

I still didn't book my hotel and my company will book me in a 4-5 star hotel of my choise. Report will follow.

First of all, I must say that I do not want to raise a new discussion about how much SHOULD be paid and how to maintain market level, etc..

My personal opiino is that, everyone has his own values. It is naturally acceptable that, one may pay $150 to what another can pay only $50.

Therefore, there is no need to discuss IF a service is WORTH paying $50 or $100. according to me, it makes $50, but according to another firend, he is ready to pay $100 for that. That is free market economy, what we call, and if one can find the right customer, he/she can sell his/her item at the price that the customer is ready to pay, instead of its usual price.

Of course, this is not the case for common basic goods and services that HAS TO BE the same price everywhere. But, for sex? That's purely negotiable.

I do not always pay $50. Actually, I paid much more money to lousy hookers previously. I would never boast about paying so little or being so SMART to pay less than other monger friends and show off with my so-called expertise and other's so-called stupidness, because they are paying more. This would be nonsense, and it is totally out of my way of thinking.

The girl or mamushka tells me her price. Whether I accept to pay or not, depends on several things :

1.-) The level of my horny mood (if my testicles are about to explode, I can pay $100-150 for one pop)

2.-) The amount of money I have in my pocket/budget.

3.-) The beauty of the gal and whether that is an opportunity or it can be found elsewhere at a lower price, or I can buy better at the same price.

As for the last babe (18 y.o. Ms. K in the pictures), I just called the mamuska that I always deal with. I knew that her price is ALWAYS $50 for any girl she sends. I am her customer and she tells the same price to all of her customers. The only difference was that, the GIRL came out to be a babe from heaven this time...However, I paid the same price ($50) for worse girls she sent me before. This one was pure luck. The best thing is : I know the girl and the mamushka now. I can get it again ! But, I do not think I can get another young beauty at the same price again. That would be TOO MUCH luck !

The most important thing is : IF I KNEW that girl was SO beautiful and young, I would ACCEPT to pay $100 for 3 hours, if the mamushka would ask me to pay. But luckily, I even did not ask how much. I just told her to send me a girl, she told me to pick her up from somewhere. That's all... we did not even talk about money. That's how it happened.

It is such a pity that I cannot share the girl's contact info with contributing buddies here. But I can give one or two friends' name to the mamushka (for that, you will have to give me your phone number and name) and tell her that this friend will call her and he is my friend. However, this means you will also get my number and name, so that you can tell the mamushka that you are my friend. Because of discreetness principles, I cannot do that. Sorry...

The same situation happened to me. Booker CF gave the number of a girl. I called the girl and she asked me who gave her number to me. Since I did not know Booker CF's real name, I could not tell her. I also could not tell her that I got her number from the internet, because she might be mad about that. I just said, a close friend. She insisted on getting the name and I couldn't. She said she would come to me only if that friend would call her and tell her that he knows me. You got the point ?

However, I provided direct phone numbers of many girls in my database to many friends in this site. Those who got the numbers know me. I am not a guy who keeps phone numbers to himself, but writes in a web site where the purpose is sharing this kind of information.

Enough is enough, that's all I will tell about this whimsical unimportant detail. May GOD grant the same luck to all honest monger friends here...

Well done, luckily the times, when it was proper to stop someone on the street and ask for a cigarette, are over. Dignity and silence move together and forever...Isn't that why we have locks on our doors?

Have another good one

I have been planning to face with myself; but I have not been ready till last night.

Last night I had threesome with Olga and Eva. They stayed 5 hours. Lots of booze and tits. They left my place around 01:00 and went to another customer.

After they left, I went to Bebek, it was 02:00 and raining. I walked and walked…

Eva, Olga, Anastacia, Natalie, Alona, Karına,Yana, Marina, Maya, Masa, Lora, Natalya, Ani,Oxsana, Margarita, Eti, Tanya, Tali, Tatiana, Marya,Veronica, Zalina, Zina, Rita, Julia and many others.

It’s been 17 months since I moved to Istanbul. Let’s say 3 girls per week (I have seen 2-5 girls per week, even during the Ramadan), approximately I have had 204 sexual relations.

Moscow, Ankara, İzmir, Denizli, Antalya, Marmaris, Diyarbakır, Çorum, Bodrum, Çeşme, G.Magusa(N.Cyprus) and Konya are not included.

Fake smiles,fake names, fake interests, fake love, fake faces, fake kisses and fake relations…

I am not gone cry for the money I have spent, cause I spent it with joy and free will.

But, It’s time to make a break and slow down everything. I will be around and willing to share my database with contributor friends.

Long live WSG mongers….

Big Bro,

I am not a regular contributor to the Turkey thread. My travel has brought me only once to Istanbul, which, thanks to your and others' contributions, was an efficient visit in the sense that because of all the info here, I knew where to go to and where not.

However I regularly read the Istanbul info as this specific forum is of high quality due to the excellent reports by you and others.

In the last 15 years I have travelled all over the world and explored the local pro scene. Even though most of the time sexually satisfactory, mentally and intelectually quite often rather miserable experiences. There seems to be a constant battle between the animal within us and our moral and mental self. "balls vs. brains" basically.

Reflection on our behaviour is automatic therefore, and the balance sometimes tips to the "brains".

My remedy has been focussing on the non-pro's without getting into solid life committments. The hunt is less certain to succeed and therefore the challenge is greater. Competition is greater and success is not only great for the "balls" but also for the brain. In the long run, a man can not be happy participating in a game where the outcome is certain and the winner is clear from the start.

I do not know you well enough to give advise, it would be terribly arrogant on my part to give you any so I won't.

I recognised my own state of mind in your report, I am just sharing my way of dealing with it.

Whatever your next steps will be, thanks for this and other reports.

Pleasure