East China - Shanghai

Had a good night at Judys on Sunday evening. Will do a separate report later. Today was different.

Been said before but always worth a reminder for newbies here.

The bar scam.

Connected with a beauty in Tantan. Alarm bells rang when she said meet straight away. Little chat but wanted to meet. Decided fuck it and went for it.

Taxi to Hyatt on Bund and met her in reception. Lucy was there with her 'sister' Vivian waiting for me.

Off we went to a bar. At this point my spider senses were in full alert. We walked around a few streets and headed to The Lucky Bar. As we approached she took keys from her bag and unlocked the bar door. This was when I decided for sure was a scam where they would get me inside and then demand money and credit card information or be beaten up.

I stopped and said I know what this is and turned around.

Lucy followed me proclaiming her innocence. I kept walking. She kept following. I turned and made it clear in no uncertain terms or language that if she followed me I would physically remove her from my side.

Luckily I'm a big guy and physically fit and a martial arts instructor so I'm confident in my capabilities of staying safe and controlling unsafe situations.

So for all the newbies in Shanghai. Beware the bar / tea shop scam.

Fucked off to Xiantiandi for dinner and then back to hotel.

Stay safe everyone.

[QUOTE=Canyon11;2155212]Tina was standing at the entrance inside of Manhattan looking a little bit lost, so could be a reason that she is not used to Manhattan but rahther Judys. She told me she has been here since 10 pm so I took care of her at Manhatten and later on she took care of me at my place over in Pudong.

LT for 2000 DT after shower, 3 pops and an outstanding BJ in the morning and real GFE.

C11.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a enjoyable evening. My kind of vacation.

[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2155239]Ladies in their mid thirties and under 5 ft height will certainly agree for 1000 rmb two pops in Manhattan. Sadly I was not interested in these both types and was looking for the most sexier and taller ones. That's why I was quoted higher prices.[/QUOTE]

Prince, EVERY TIME I mention a girl that went for less than your quoted prices you take this up and post it again. You seem to want to find a reason why I find girls at 1000 and you don't.

They took 1000 because they were 30, they took a 1000 because they were short (and 27 and very hot if you read the other reviews on Tina from midwestern and Canyon11). They took 1000 because they are not your type. Heck, I had a girl that had pictures in a magazine that agreed to 2 pops for 1000. She showed me the magazine pictures of her walking the beach in a Bikini.

I have had very pretty girls take a 1000 and very pretty girls want more. I am no stud and I have posted many times some girls will and some girls won't. This board is about understanding the going rate, the low and the high. It is not about knowing how high you can spend. In all my mongering, I have never had one girl say "oh that's too much, give me less".

The other problem is we talk apples and oranges. You are quoting LT, I only do ST but ask for 2 pops. Most time I get it. If I don't I either compromise or move on.

Maybe the problem isn't with the girls that are willing to take 1000. Maybe the problem is how many girls are willing to go with you for 1000.
Or is that your concern when I post these rates? Do you take this as some personal attack on you? No girl would ever want someone else for less than they want Prince... right? These girls aren't machines. They will go with anyone but some they would prefer to go with.....

If you want to know what's possible ( on what to pay based on how things go and how bad you want her and if she won't budge).then make your own decision... then , listen to Sam.

if you want to know how much money a girl will take from you.... Then read the board. you will find both


SAM OUT.

They have a 588 stress relief massage.

Pre-crackdown, it was a room with shower, and a pretty young gal would give a sensuous oil massage with lots of attention to the groin and ass, but you had to tip 300 for a release. I know 588+300 is a ripoff, but the massage was so sensuous that it was worth it once in a while.

During crackdown, you had to shower in a separate shower room, and an average looking gal would give a massage with NO OIL, and you had to wear top and bottom PAJAMAS, and they also put a towel on top of the pajamas, and then, at the very end, she would ask if you wanted a release, and for 300, she'd reach under the PJs and quickly jack you off.

Post-crackdown, you still have to shower in the shower room, but the paper blue underwear is back, and so is the oil. My provider was ugly, but had nice legs, gave a very sensuous massage, massaging my entire package while I am facing down and facing up, she even rips off the blue underwear entirely, but when she asked me how much I'd tip for a release, I said 200, and she scoffed at it with a laugh and said no, then I offered 300 and she said never mind, and she proceeded to massage my legs, also sensuously, and she was done. WTF? Why forgo an easy 300 for 3 minutes of work?

My guess is that Americans visiting China for the first time, staying at the Crowne, must be over-tipping. But still, it doesn't make sense.

In other news, I rode a ride around the Ronghua block in Gubei, and everything still looks shut. I did see one MP on Golden Street with a middle-aged woman behind the door wearing a short black dress though, but I was not tempted. I guess Gubei is nowhere near returning to its old self. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.

In the meantime, I will stick with Spring. I gave up on 76 Changshou. That place is not clean. I recently got sick immediately after a session.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2156211]They have a 588 stress relief massage.

Pwhen she asked me how much I'd tip for a release, I said 200, and she scoffed at it with a laugh and said no, then I offered 300 and she said never mind, and she proceeded to massage my legs, also sensuously, and she was done. WTF? Why forgo an easy 300 for 3 minutes of work?

.[/QUOTE]Its the nature of the 5 star hotels. I had a chinese girlfriend who worked at both western and chinese hotels. She would get 1000 RMB years ago for a hand job. (I know what you're thinking, that's what she told me). I believe this to be true. She was at the Raddison in Pudong. I stayed at the Marriot across the street and the hotel had a discount massage. She refused to do HJ for less than 900 tip as well.

At the Pudong airport hotel 7 years ago I was quoted 500 for BBBJ plus house fee for shitty non massage. I settled for he for 200.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2154587]
I used to love the hilton but this is so much better and you don't have to deal with Taxi gouging. There are stairs on the far side (from manhattans) that you can walk up as a short cut to going around front with your girl. You can find cheaper but not better for Mongering.

There are also mirrors around the bathtub in the bathroom in your room. ..... if you are so inclined to......... Uh....... You can figure it out.
It was Tina's idea actually.

SAM.[/QUOTE]Best sales pitch ever for the Portman!

Byebye Swissotel from now on.

[QUOTE=Paal8;2157239]Best sales pitch ever for the Portman!

Byebye Swissotel from now on.[/QUOTE]Staying at the Ritz Portman in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to this location. PM me if anyone wants to meet up on April 6th or 7th.

Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.

Just give us the place, I doubt Chinese police care much about MP with HJ right now.

[QUOTE=Paal8;2157633]Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.[/QUOTE]

Arrived Shanghai yesterday afternoon, came to the hotel for a quick shower and then off for German food for dinner.

Went to 148 Maoming Road Spring Massage, place didn't seem busy at all. Tipped the manager 50 RMB and told him I wanted a young girl with good service.

In walked a 38 KG spinner. Perfect for me. No English however. Gave a so so massage on the back and then went and propped my legs up on her legs and proceeded to tease the crap out of me.

Flip and the negotiations start. She wanted 300 to get naked, I countered with 300 for naked and BJ (I always get turned down here for extras like this), she countered with 500. I told her 500 for BJ and DATY. She told me through my translate app that she never allows that, but business must be slow as she settled on 300 for naked and DATY.

This girl was tiny! And perfect and tasted so fresh. 10 minutes and she was squirming all over the bed, as usual of a Chinese girl, no insertion of fingers, but when she got really excited I pushed one in and she exploded. She was so tight that a finger could barely fit.

She gave me her WeChat and we discussed her coming to my hotel on my day off. Of course she wants a fortune (5000 rmb) but we will see. She tells me business is very slow and she needs some money.

328 for the massage, and yes, the shower is still in the room.

Came back to the hotel to sleep and then headed to Judy's at 4:00 am, closing time and stood outside while the leftovers walked out. Tina and Lilly were two of the ones looking for a late night take-home. Tina offered 1000 rmb, but only one pop. I guess that being 400 am she didn't want to fuck until the afternoon. I really wasn't planning on taking anybody home unless the price and girl were right, so I talked to a few girls and one offered 500 rmb for a blow job, problem was when she smiled I feared for my little brother.

I headed back to the Swissotel and hung out out front smoking, it was 4:30 and saw a couple of gals leaving doing the walk of shame. One gal came over and got a cigarette, Lisa, 31 from HCMC, very pretty girl, maybe 50 kg of lust. She had a bad customer and just wanted to talk, I let her explain her situation and we chatted for about a half an hour. Never once did she pressure me to take her to my room or talk about money. She gave me her WeChat and I asked if she wanted to go to dinner and dancing tonight. She told me she had a German boyfriend that was back in Germany, and that she would like to go to dinner. She did say that no boom boom without pay, as that would be cheating on her boyfriend. These girls and the way they justify what they do. I told her dinner and dancing and then we would see, my bet is she doesn't follow through, but if she wants to go out for a normal night, I'll put the charm on and see what I can get.

Now it's so damn early, wish I knew of a 24 hour massage parlor close with happy ending.

Out of just trying to find a new spot in Jing'an, came across a MP that was probably a little too new at 491 Beijing Rd. Only 2 people recruited to work there so far, average / a little bit older for 8 or so rooms. The one I got. Not chosen, probably was based on taking turns. Didn't even have a routine really figured out yet, still trying to figure things out along the way. 298 for basic, 398 for nude, went with the hundred extra if only to avoid the awkwardness of her doing this for an hour in full winter get-up. Didn't seem to get much other benefit aside from body press (usually 'slide' would be the normal descriptor, but not quite apt in this case).

Might get better eventually with more people or a different one, hard to tell. Probably going to wait a bit before trying to find out.

[QUOTE=Paal8;2157633]Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.[/QUOTE]There's only 2 massage places near fumin lu. One is called Yili and the other is a Thai themed massage. Both are chains. You basically just tipped 2-300 for a HJ, It's just a HJ. Really don't think there's a need to pvt for info. If you want to help out others and share, especially since its just a location, then just share.

Happy Easter all!

K.

[QUOTE=Paal8;2157633]Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.[/QUOTE]You need to be a senior member to PM. You can just give the name of the chain here, and people can work on the locations for themselves, but honestly 600 RMB is a little high, even for 2 hours. The going rate at Spring or Fudi is 400 RMB for 90 minutes.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2156211]

In other news, I rode a ride around the Ronghua block in Gubei, and everything still looks shut. I did see one MP on Golden Street with a middle-aged woman behind the door wearing a short black dress though, but I was not tempted. I guess Gubei is nowhere near returning to its old self. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.[/QUOTE]What is Golden Street?