Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You don't know this place??? OMG it is a MUST Try in Thailand.

Basically, you go in and immediately get attacked by its Stench, but being a fighter, you make your way to a sofa/seat and girls Join you. You buy them cheap 60thb whisky and they will do anything you want, in the bar. HJ, BJ, FS...

After a few drinks, the place and its seediness grows on you and you can't help but feel more and more at home... a pair of tits in your face, a mouth on your dick and a sloppy Grin on your face. Think of Wild Country as a bigger version of the Naughty Boy Corner @ Afterskool in Cowboy.

Girls aren't that great looking but let's say an hour in this place with drinks for 2 ladies and tips can be about 1,000 thb. Cheap, cheap.[/QUOTE]Yeah that sums up the place fairly nicely!

Both times I have been there the girl who has gotten me off has been one of the younger, cuter ladies, with an old hag helping out from time to time.

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originally posted by bunky
it has been awhile since this topic was updated, so i thought i'd post a trip report. hopefully it will be of some use to future visitors arriving at bkk for the first time.

as your flight nears bangkok the airline will provide you with an immigration form to fill out. take your time and complete it neatly and correctly. (don't forget the back side.) government bureaucrats the world over hate sloppy paperwork.

when you get off the plane your first stop will be immigration. follow the signs, taking the moving walkways as needed. hint: try to get off the plane first, and walk fast. if you get to immigration early the lines will be much shorter.

when you approach the immigration checkpoint there is a confusing sign that says "visa on arrival 140 meters" with an arrow pointing in a direction that is away from the immigration checkpoint. at the bottom of this sign it says in small letters "aot." this is a company that offers high-priced car service, along with "special handling" through immigration. don't fall for this scam. follow the overhead signs to the official immigration checkpoint.

discussion of thailand immigration law is beyond the scope of this report. so do your research and make sure you know what will be required for entry. i am a united states citizen, so i qualified for a 30-day "visa on arrival." officially the thai authorities reserve the right to require proof of financial solvency and evidence that you've booked "onward travel." my inspector didn't ask about those things. in fact, he didn't say a word. he stamped my passport with a visa indicating i could stay for 30 days, and he stapled to one of the pages a form i'll hand in when i leave.

after you pass through the immigration checkpoint you'll be in the main baggage claim area. rep001tered among the carousels there are booths to change money. they all offer the same rate. you can get a better rate in town, so don't change too much. make sure to get some hundred baht notes so you can pay the taxi fare.

finding the correct baggage carousel can be tricky. there are monitors showing all the incoming flights, but instead of listing the flights by city of origin they are listed by arrival time. even more confusing, if the flight originated in, say, chicago and connected in tokyo the origin may be listed as chicago instead of tokyo. also, many airline flights these days are "code share," so a single flight may have three different airlines and flight numbers associated with it and the monitor displays all three in rotation. i had to stand there for a good five minutes, forcing my jet-lagged brain to figure it out.

while you wait for your luggage, read the signs explaining the customs rules. most travelers will qualify for the "nothing to declare" line. near the baggage carousels there are free carts. very nice. load up your stuff and make your way to the exit, which is located on the opposite side of the hall from where the immigration inspectors are located. if you have nothing to declare, look for the green signs. the authorities reserve the right to inspect your luggage for contraband, either by hand or via an x-ray machine. i was waived through. i've read elsewhere this is common for western travelers.

once you clear customs follow the signs for "public taxi." you'll pass numerous people who work for car services who will try to sell you an expensive ride into town. unless you're made of money they are generally a bad deal. if you arranged with one of the independent taxi services (mr. t or mr. toom, for example) for a ride to points distant (like pattaya) look for your driver in this crowd.

if you're just going into bangkok via public taxi, you'll have to descend to the lower level. they have these nifty moving ramps that are a cross between an escalator and a moving sidewalk. very handy if you have a heavy baggage cart. at the bottom of the ramps you'll see door number four.

exit through door four and you'll see the taxi dispatcher. you'll also see a sign explaining there is a 50 baht surcharge for airport pickups. once you tell the dispatcher where you are going she'll fill out a form. one part goes to the driver and you keep the other half. all the major hotels are well known, but if you're headed someplace off the beaten path now is the time to ensure that the driver knows where's he's going. my hotel e-mailed me a map with the streets labeled in thai, but the dispatcher and the driver said that was unnecessary.

most of the taxis are toyota corollas with the "limo" package. as far as i can tell, this adds room to the back seat at the cost of a smaller trunk. if you're traveling alone there will be plenty of room for you and your things. (i most definitely do not pack light, and i was fine.) but if you're in a group or you have tons of baggage you should probably tell the dispatcher so she can rustle up a large vehicle.

once you get started the cab driver will ask: "highway?" tell him yes. he'll use the toll road, which is much faster. there are two tolls between the airport and downtown and you have to pay both. at the first toll plaza give the driver a hundred baht note. he'll pay that toll and hold on to the change. at the second toll plaza he'll pay that toll and give you some coins back. if i recall correctly, the tolls were 80 baht in all. so the added cost to save time is well worth it.

i was staying at the grand millennium, which is located near the intersection of sukhumvit and asok. the fare on the meter was 315 baht. with the surcharge it was 365 baht. tipping is not expected, but i gave the driver 400 baht.

so all in the taxi from the airport to downtown bangkok cost 480 baht. at the current exchange rate that's about usd $16. that's definitely a bargain compared to the car services, which charge thousands and thousands of baht. and i'm proof that a first time visitor who doesn't speak a word of thai was easily hire a public taxi.

hope this was helpful.

bunky

[quote=jed wordsmith]great post and useful information, thanks. one additional tip: if you take the expressway as bunky suggests, when you get to the first toll booth (25 baht) the meter should read approximately bt141, give or take a couple of baht. if it's significantly higher than that (remember, at the *first* 25 bt booth, not the second 45bt one!) then the meter is rigged.[/quote]


let me share my experience with this.
i stayed many times in soi 19 (one roaad next to the grand millennium who is at soi 21).
if the car driver takes the earlier exit (i believe exit asoke, the opposite way of the grand mercure / shopping mall fortune) you can be on your place within 25 minutes and just for around 250 thb including the first highway tol gate. he has to know this because he has to go earlier from the highway. later if you see the big purple grand mercure building on your right side driving on the highway you are too late and have to take the sukhumvit exit.

i always take a cab from the departure zone (one level up from arrivals). two reasons for that. first you can choose the cab you like (and let the older pass away) and you only pay the starting (standard) fee of 35 thb.

when leaving soi 19 i had many times cab drivers who drove into the direction of the grand mercure/asoke/fortune shopping mall and who take the (lower) parallel way instead of the higher highway.
this route is even faster (off course depending on the time of the day) and cheaper.
some cab drivers told me they take this road because its quicker and cheaper. i remember once that i had to pay just over 200 thb.
as all thais i guess they expect that you give them a nice tip because they serviced you correctly:).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You don't know this place??? OMG it is a MUST Try in Thailand. [/QUOTE]
I can think of some other MUSTs that I've had the pleasure of avoiding. :)

[QUOTE=Somewhere15]Some cab drivers told me they take this road because its quicker and cheaper. I remember once that I had to pay just over 200 THB.
As all Thais I guess they expect that you give them a nice tip because they serviced you correctly:).[/QUOTE]

of course ! and THEY expect to be tipped because they make YOU saving money and they want IT! :)

[QUOTE=Ozztraleearr]Yeah that sums up the place fairly nicely!

Both times I have been there the girl who has gotten me off has been one of the [b]younger[/b], cuter ladies, with an old hag helping out from time to time.[/QUOTE]

I thought the youngest was the 46 years old Bartender? LOL

Ok, only kidding! at night there are young ones coming to help out/

[b]Quote from the below article: but he said he has done his best to keep his wife and her family happy.[/b]

WTF??? isn't the woman supposed to make sure the man is happy? especially when she does not work and he brings all the dough.

What is the world coming down to?

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4[/url]

I’ve just been out for two days in Patong nightlife and it was really disappointing. I don’t find any girls worth shagging here. Is the situation different in Bangkok?

Perhaps all the really hot chicks go to other countries where they earn more? Or do the hot ones avoid the P2P scene because the worry about their marriage potential?

Well, I’m not giving up :-), but I’m kind of getting desperate here – does anyone have contacts of a “perfect 11” high-end model (looks are top priority, GFE not so important)? PM me and I’ll be happy to throw some rounds of beer (or better stuff) in return.

[QUOTE=Pussyheaven]does anyone have contacts of a “perfect 11” high-end model (looks are top priority, GFE not so important)[/QUOTE]
If looks are a Top Priority, then head back to Bangkok asap.... there is nothing for you in Phuket, seriously.

Try this website, register (FREE) and then browse all their girls... some places like The Lord, La Belle have some stunners.

[url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If looks are a Top Priority, then head back to Bangkok asap.... there is nothing for you in Phuket, seriously.

Try this website, register (FREE) and then browse all their girls... some places like The Lord, La Belle have some stunners.

[url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

Hm, after registering, getting a thai-only error message. Nice of them.

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Not sure what it says in Thai, but nothing showed up in my Yahoo mail inbox. I went back and clicked a link on the site to have the activation email resent. Same result, nothing. Bogus website attempting to collect email and phone number data?

[QUOTE=Wendella]Hm, after registering, getting a thai-only error message. Nice of them.

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Not sure what it says in Thai, but nothing showed up in my Yahoo mail inbox. I went back and clicked a link on the site to have the activation email resent. Same result, nothing. Bogus website attempting to collect email and phone number data?[/QUOTE]

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Wow!







I will write more when I recover from the best BBJ in my life, by a girl who is a solid 8, and is early 20s at the oldest.

FARK, I almost passed out.

[QUOTE=Wendella] Bogus website attempting to collect email and phone number data?[/QUOTE]

Works perfect for me... See:

[url]http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77093_1_123_345lo.jpg[/url]
[url]http://img249.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77094_2_123_244lo.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If looks are a Top Priority, then head back to Bangkok asap.... there is nothing for you in Phuket, seriously.

Try this website, register (FREE) and then browse all their girls... some places like The Lord, La Belle have some stunners. [url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

This is a great website. I get email updates from the site when new girls are added to the various parlors.

Right now, I am doing my homework for my next trip back to BKK in Feb. At present based on the pictures alone, I think Copa Cabana, Emmanuelle, La De'fense, Long Beach and La Belle have the hottest women. But you never know what you will find until you walk through the doors.

Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]This is a great website. I get email updates from the site when new girls are added to the various parlors.

Right now, I am doing my homework for my next trip back to BKK in Feb. At present based on the pictures alone, I think Copa Cabana, Emmanuelle, La De'fense, Long Beach and La Belle have the hottest women. But you never know what you will find until you walk through the doors.

Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?[/QUOTE]
No there isn't. Its simply a rule that Farangs pay more.
Utopia charge is ridiculous unless you have a very special girl there to make it worthwhile. But then you might just arrange to meet in private.

It you don't like it, go to a different place with no Farang charge or a lower Farang charge, e.g. Nataree.

[QUOTE]I stayed many times in Soi 19 (one road next to the Grand Millennium who is at Soi 21). If the driver takes the earlier exit (I believe exit Asoke, the opposite way of the Grand Mercure / Shopping Mall Fortune) you can be on your place within 25 minutes and just for around 250 THB including the first highway toll gate. [Second point re quickest route back to airport deleted to conserve space.][/QUOTE]Sounds like this gentlemen is *VERY* with Bangkok geography. I am the same way in my home town, where I know to the last tenth of a percent the quickest taxi route (in time or distance) between any two points.

In summary, if you are: (a) well versed in the Bangkok street grid, and (b) possessed of enough Thai to direct the driver to your preferred routing, you can save 200-250 baht compared to lining up with clueless newbie tourists like me at the cab stand outside exit four and letting the system work. For me, it's not worth the effort to save USD $6-8. As the old saw posits, the perfect is the enemy of the good.

But I recognize this type of advice is in the finest and best tradition of online forums, where the group strives to collect the absolute best information about any given topic, no matter how marginal the improvement one course of action has over another. (Recently read a massive thread on a board frequent by frequent fliers discussion the best airport lounges at Narita. Dozens of posts compared the quality of the free soap in the showers. Not really a concern for me. :-) But something that nevertheless contributes to the continuing discussion. So I appreciate all the followups to my original "airport taxi FAQ."

Bunky