Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1537255]My report was just to give an example of how the Rio mongering is still good. The meaning of the post wasn't to have a rush of gringos going to have a threesome with the sisters.

I don't post any more updated privê lists. No reason to do that as the majority are lurkers who don't care about sharing new information. Also too many gringos might ruin the privê. However, this privê mentioned is one of those on my last privê list (from 2012?). It really would ruin the fun of searching if I told you which one. .

Many of the privê veterans guessed straight away which privê I talked about. Other members (those who like sharing) asked by PM and I gave them the address.[/QUOTE]For the record, if you check my posts, you will find I have shared plenty, although not necessarily very much about Rio, since I only go once a year. Also, I did not want to get the information just for myself by PMing you, but rather for everyone, which is why I asked in the forum. Further, I doubt that there are enough ISG members in Rio at any one time to inundate any prive.

In any event, thanks for the hint (by the way your last list was in 2011). I did not remember about this place when I was in Rio in November 2013. I am surprised that Nova (which I assume is the one you referred to) still charges only 50 reais for 30 minutes. I am even more surprised that A standard girls would work there for less than half the price of the girls next door at 185. I will have to check it out on my next trip to Rio. Thanks.

I am happy to support Sperto here, as he has already given more information on privê lists in Rio than everyone else put together. You can find his lists and maps if you dig a bit for them. Many are still current.

So why not just keep repeating the information whenever someone asks?

This is my experience and point of view. I am on quite a number of ISG boards and there is often country-specific etiquette. For instance, newbies come on and expect old-timers to pass on information in a country where a woman can be arrested and tortured for selling sex. Then they berate people for not 'sharing. ' That is [I]not[/I] The case in Rio; but the privê is not like the big termas. The latter cater very well for foreigners. But the privê can only cope with a smaller customer flow, and can lose its accommodation if people are indiscreet. For instance at the doorway (They are often located next to business premises are upmarket residential apartments, where everyone gets to know everything that goes on quite easily). I've also seen smaller locations ruined by people who have not absorbed Brasilian etiquette. For instance, arriving in a group, talking in a loud voice, or tipping and often tipping extravagantly. (Tipping is obligatory in the USA: it most definitely is [I]not[/I] In Brasil.) Instead of it being quite a personal, private experience, the atmosphere becomes jaded and on the lookout for how to screw tourists.

No rush of gringos? Well maybe not. But I think ISG is a primary source for gringos finding such places. I believe Sperto has passed on the address of the place he mentioned to everyone who PM'd him. And as he said, it is openly printed in his guide and map of Centro venues. Anyone who takes the time to RTFF and search for his list would find it. Anyone who PMs him would probably have it. But at least there is less of a rush that way. People making that effort are hopefully also the people who make an effort to learn a bit about Brasilian ways.

For someone who is new to Brasil, especally if you speak zilch Portuguese, the best options are the termas (high end and low end) and I suppose the walk-ups (like URU24). The information on these is very open. You can get similar prices whichever end you choose. And bear in mind that, even if you have shared a lot of info on another ISG forum, that is not a help to people on this one. I used to post a lot here, but my interest is paying a much lower pric than say 4x4, and it's the 4x4 price end (with the luxury accessories) that most people debate now, so I log on less often. Each forum is different, as I've found myself. There's a lot of very helpful people on the Brasil boards but quite a lot of people who never make an effort to give as much as they take. Information, after all, is voluntary. It's not a publicly funded tourist information board. To the helpful newbies visiting, please give the board a chance. Get to know Rio, get to know the posters, and try to show good faith by contributing something here when asking. PMs are good, but I have to admit I ignore them from people who ask very unspecific questions that simply show they haven't done any homework.

Happy hunting and good luck everyone. Enjoy Brasil while the prices are enjoyable!

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1537626]If football isn't a big interest for you then you should avoid coming here during the world cup.

Hotels, tickets etc will be very expensive.

Transportation is already really f*cked up. Specially the last week after they made Av Rio Branco working in both directions.[/QUOTE]Indeed, and ditto Sampa. Rather amusing that they have announced they have now just got nineteen new Metro trains. You can still rarely get a seat even now unless getting on at a very quiet time or at the start of the line. Sampa have, however, announced some dedicated trains to go to the main stadium (presumably if they finish the stadium!)

World Cup is mid-June to mid-July. You can practically tell the start / finish dates from the massive spike in airline prices. Instead of hotels, motels frequently offer great value. You have to find ones that offer 24hr bookings of course (many are by the hour or part-day; and if you don't know what a Brasilian motel is, just google "Brazil motel." Some will be on booking-dot-com etc as 'Adults only" but for others you need to search using the motel guides). But Rio has a shortage of hotels whenever things are busy. (Sampa just has a shortage of affordable ones.) Some hostels are currently charging the same for a dorm bed during World Cup as you would pay in Europe for a good private room ensuite. With motels for instance, one Centro Rio motel is currently charging £42 per night for April and £142 for the second half of June. More than three times the normal rate.

[QUOTE=Christopherd; 1537993]Indeed, and ditto Sampa. Rather amusing that they have announced they have now just got nineteen new Metro trains. You can still rarely get a seat even now unless getting on at a very quiet time or at the start of the line. Sampa have, however, announced some dedicated trains to go to the main stadium (presumably if they finish the stadium!)

World Cup is mid-June to mid-July. You can practically tell the start / finish dates from the massive spike in airline prices. Instead of hotels, motels frequently offer great value. You have to find ones that offer 24hr bookings of course (many are by the hour or part-day; and if you don't know what a Brasilian motel is, just google "Brazil motel." Some will be on booking-dot-com etc as 'Adults only" but for others you need to search using the motel guides). But Rio has a shortage of hotels whenever things are busy. (Sampa just has a shortage of affordable ones.) Some hostels are currently charging the same for a dorm bed during World Cup as you would pay in Europe for a good private room ensuite. With motels for instance, one Centro Rio motel is currently charging £42 per night for April and £142 for the second half of June. More than three times the normal rate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Yeah, seeing how things went in London, and following the news, I figured Rio might be chaotic and expensive. I remember last year trying to put together a Rio trip for Carnival about a month prior. I couldn't believe the prices for everything. It was potentially more expensive than anything I had ever encountered, and I have travelled alot.

I guess the time to go to Rio will be AFTER the World Cup, when most of the stuff has been completed, but without the crowds. Oh how I am getting anxious though! I have been wanting to visit Brazil FOREVER!

[QUOTE=Christopherd; 1537987]I am happy to support Sperto here, as he has already given more information on privê lists in Rio than everyone else put together. You can find his lists and maps if you dig a bit for them. Many are still current.

So why not just keep repeating the information whenever someone asks?

This is my experience and point of view. I am on quite a number of ISG boards and there is often country-specific etiquette. For instance, newbies come on and expect old-timers to pass on information in a country where a woman can be arrested and tortured for selling sex. Then they berate people for not 'sharing. ' That is [I]not[/I] The case in Rio; but the privê is not like the big termas. The latter cater very well for foreigners. But the privê can only cope with a smaller customer flow, and can lose its accommodation if people are indiscreet. For instance at the doorway (They are often located next to business premises are upmarket residential apartments, where everyone gets to know everything that goes on quite easily). I've also seen smaller locations ruined by people who have not absorbed Brasilian etiquette. For instance, arriving in a group, talking in a loud voice, or tipping and often tipping extravagantly. (Tipping is obligatory in the USA: it most definitely is [I]not[/I] In Brasil.) Instead of it being quite a personal, private experience, the atmosphere becomes jaded and on the lookout for how to screw tourists.

No rush of gringos? Well maybe not. But I think ISG is a primary source for gringos finding such places. I believe Sperto has passed on the address of the place he mentioned to everyone who PM'd him. And as he said, it is openly printed in his guide and map of Centro venues. Anyone who takes the time to RTFF and search for his list would find it. Anyone who PMs him would probably have it. But at least there is less of a rush that way. People making that effort are hopefully also the people who make an effort to learn a bit about Brasilian ways.

For someone who is new to Brasil, especally if you speak zilch Portuguese, the best options are the termas (high end and low end) and I suppose the walk-ups (like URU24). The information on these is very open. You can get similar prices whichever end you choose. And bear in mind that, even if you have shared a lot of info on another ISG forum, that is not a help to people on this one. I used to post a lot here, but my interest is paying a much lower pric than say 4x4, and it's the 4x4 price end (with the luxury accessories) that most people debate now, so I log on less often. Each forum is different, as I've found myself. There's a lot of very helpful people on the Brasil boards but quite a lot of people who never make an effort to give as much as they take. Information, after all, is voluntary. It's not a publicly funded tourist information board. To the helpful newbies visiting, please give the board a chance. Get to know Rio, get to know the posters, and try to show good faith by contributing something here when asking. PMs are good, but I have to admit I ignore them from people who ask very unspecific questions that simply show they haven't done any homework.

Happy hunting and good luck everyone. Enjoy Brasil while the prices are enjoyable![/QUOTE]I agree with everything you have posted on this topic Chris. As for myself, I just share info. With people that share info. And I just do it by pm Just 5 years ago, people were willing to share and write interesting posts actually related to Rio scene. Now, its mostly bickering and these idiots who claim to be rich, travel the world, and buy all sorts of buss. Investsments. Who gives a crap. Its all a lie anyways. Whatever. I will continue to share, but only for a select few who do the same. My 2 cents worth.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1538059]I agree with everything you have posted on this topic Chris. As for myself, I just share info. With people that share info. And I just do it by pm Just 5 years ago, people were willing to share and write interesting posts actually related to Rio scene. Now, its mostly bickering and these idiots who claim to be rich, travel the world, and buy all sorts of buss. Investsments. Who gives a crap. Its all a lie anyways. Whatever. I will continue to share, but only for a select few who do the same. My 2 cents worth.[/QUOTE]If you are only willing to share information by PM with those worthy of it, why do you bother with this forum? If someone doesn't want to share information on this forum, then he should just PM whomever he thinks is worthy of the information, and not taunt the rest of us with posts about the great times he had at great places that we can't know about because we are unworthy and will spoil them.

Link to Oglobos coverage of Sao Paulos Carnaval parades.

[url]http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/carnaval/2014/desfile-apuracao/cobertura/[/url]

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1538113]If you are only willing to share information by PM with those worthy of it, why do you bother with this forum? If someone doesn't want to share information on this forum, then he should just PM whomever he thinks is worthy of the information, and not taunt the rest of us with posts about the great times he had at great places that we can't know about because we are unworthy and will spoil them.[/QUOTE]Hey Jimmy, its very interesting how you interpret things. I never used the word "worthy", you did. I specifically said that I would SHARE with people who SHARE. You obviously have no clue as to how to anaylze and breakdown what you are reading. However, if thats your point of view on what I wrote, deal with it.

As for "taunting", nobody is taunting anyone. What a joke. Again, putting words in my mouth. You insult my intelligence buddy. Like if that is going to change my mind. These are exactly the examples as to why many experienced members are hesitant to share info.

I have been going to brazil for over 10 years, and I have used info. Shared by other senior members from this forum. That being said, I have walked many miles just within the city of Rio over the years, browsing, investigating, taking risks, and researching all sorts of streets, buildings, etc. It has taken plenty of time, effort, planning, luck and money to gain the knowledge that I have about this sport. Now, some newbies come to a forum, and ask where, when, how, etc. And expect meaningful and valuable answers asap, without themselves contributing a drop of info. Furthermore, as mentioned in an earlier post, the arrogant comments along with bickering totally turns me off to helping those who partake in that type of silliness. However, I will share with those who do actually share valuable info. Thats my right to do so.

When its all said and done, some people are pist because they are not getting the responses to info. requested. They want, and want asap. Too bad, so sad! Go to Rio, bust your ass learning about the city, culture, people, places, rules and laws (written and unwritten) , etc, then report back to this forum. Then you might actually get some members to share with others who do as well. Have a nice a day, and hopefully its in Rio.

The problem with that is that it says fuck you to guys that either have never been anywhere but have serious inquiries, or guys who are new to the site. And I do understand there are some trolls who come on and do nothing but ask questions in various threads and never post a field report.

I originally came to the forum to find information about Thailand. I asked a question in the Bangkok thread and was ripped into by Old Thai Hand telling me to read the fucking forum; which I took heed to. The information I needed was already laid out for me, but required some effort on my part. Doing as you say and only going quid pro quo through PM is not in the spirit of the forum.

I have mongered in over 100 countries and have posted field reports for each one accordingly. One year ago I was planning a trip to Vietnam, a country I had never been to. I looked to frequent posters of that particular thread for advice. Thankfully they did not give me the big "fuck you this is our little secret" because I did not yet have anything to attribute to that thread, seeing that I had never been to Vietnam!

First, its not "some", its "many" trolls in this forum. Aside from the posts, you can't even begin to magine the PM's I have received over the past year from TROLLS asking for personal information (I am sure I am not the only one who has gotten thses PM's). As though it were a service desk.

Secondly, I got my fair share of F* You's at first. I did not cry I like a little b**ch about it. I went about my buss. And and along the way, I shared and recieved great info. As well. Things turned out fine just for me.

Third, I will repeat again, I am willing to share, and on my own terms just like everyone out there. What is this? Communist Party principles. What is your is mine. That's not the way I think or operate. I have my right to choose and and give out whatever info. And the amount of info. I wish to give, just as everyone else in this forum has the same right.

Bottomline, this has to do more with being a troll than a newbie. The only one that should have issues with my right to share info. Is a troll. So if you are not a troll, don't worry about it, it won't effect you.

Lastly, all of this was a non-issue for many years until the last couple of years. Many trolls looking for info. Without themselves contributing anything meaningful, plus all of the anomosity, arguing, etc. Has caused changes in attitudes. Hence, there have been many members to leave and not participate in this forum. Members, who would contribute valid info. Luckily, there are still a few. I have not contributed to this negative situation as of late, but it is what it is for whatever reason. As a result, I have my right to share in my own way that I think is productive. If there is a secret society here, its some members who think they contribute valuable info. , but in reality, nothing but crap. Again, those that do truly share, will be rewarded by others who share as well. This is not rocket science, I am aware that the same applies to me.

Let me share one more thought-------Its all good. Have a coke, pepsi, agua de coco, or a beer and have a great day.

Oi Gente,

Just paid for my subscription. Looking forward to getting to know everyone on the page. I have shared in the Bogota and Buenos Aires forums and will share for Rio. Admittedly a newbie but I do speak fluent Portuguese and am usually in Brasil 3 or 4 times a year, along with the rest of South America. Will be in town second week of March.

Rio trip report.

I spend a few weeks in Rio over news years and had a great time – the reports of the death or decline of mongering in Rio are greatly exaggerated. But admittedly, it is more expensive and closure of Help has changed the scene quite a bit.

During most of the 00's I visited Rio a few times a year, but my last visit was in 2009 in part as it had become very expensive and in part because I felt like exploring ladies in other countries. But believe me the Brazilian ladies are number one so I decided a revisit was long overdue after 4 years absence. For most of my past trips I have been mainly focused on the termas and predominantly Centaurus. I love the terma setup as I am not a night person and prefer to sleep at night rather than going out to party.

Over my past trips I developed a very strong friendship with a lady from Centaurus, so strong that she is now a genuine friend and I do not have sex with her. But she is still great company and happy to hunt ladies for me when we go out. When I visited Rio she was working at Terma 65 so needless to say I went there a few times to say hi to her and to some drinking and partying. Terma 65 has really nice rooms – much better than Centaurus – but very few clients. I only sessioned there on a couple of occasions as more of the ladies were not to my taste. But still I enjoyed my drinking and partying time there a lot as I had half a dozen ladies with at any time. Just order a bottle of vodka and some redbulls and shared it will all the ladies, lots of lapdances, kissing and groping while getting drunk is a good way to spend my downtime between sessions.

I also visited Centaurus on many occasions. I know my regular poster on this board have mixed feelings about the place, but I still love it. They have the largest pool of doable ladies of any of the termas and all the regular staff from the barmen to the managers and front desk staff remembered me and treat me great. My sessions there were mostly good, a few great ones and a few forgettable ones. Especially two sessions were memorable.

I usually arrive shortly after they open do the locker thing, take a shower and head to the relax room to unwind before letting the ladies chase me. One afternoon while I was doing the locker thing I noticed that the manager was explaining the setup to a new girl – love new girls – so when I was in the relax room I had a quick chat with the manager, who told me that the lady was indeed having her first day at Centaurus and had just turned 18. Ding – I want her and to be her first customer. So the manager fetches her and makes the introduction. We chat briefly, make out a little bit and then I suggest that I show her the rooms upstairs. In the room she is a bit nervous but we manage to have a nice session. Great sex as she is tight and likes sex and cums a few times. Only letdown is no CIM (a few sessions later she does her first CIM with me). Got to love 18 years old girls anywhere in the world. Later the same day I am chatting with another customer and she sits down between us. He decides to let her go as she is not very conversational and he said he did not get a good feeling about her. I tell him that it is her first day here and she just turned 18 – he quickly changes his mind and upstairs they go.

During my visits to Centaurus I had noticed a tall, long legged stunning blonde lady who always seems very busy. So busy she always seems busy when I want to session. I sort of get the feeling that she is too professional and not really my thing, so I give her a pass. But then of the day I am going home she decides she wants me. I am lying down in the relax room shortly after I arrive and then she comes over and chats for a few seconds. Before she proceeds to give me the tongue experience of a lifetime, she has the best and longest tongue I think I have ever tried. So we make out like crazy in the relax room and soon we are heading upstairs. In the room she is horny as hell, does everything I want including Anal, facefucking, CIM. Everything. No wonder she is so popular. Damn, don't you just have it when you find the greatest girl on the day you are going home? Anyway, bye bye honey, I take a shower and head to the airport.

But, I have been saving the best part for last. My favorite lady on my last trip was a gorgeous 18 year old morena, who had just started a Centaurus. I was introduced to her by my long time friend who was at that time working at Centaurus. I had some very memorable times with her in 2009 and was hoping to see her again. Well, my good friend came through and set up a date for me. My gorgeous 18 year favorite is now 22 year old student and out of the game for good. She is just as stunning and a truly nice lady. We have a great afternoon together followed by some conversations on Whatsapp. Long story short, for the last two weeks of my trip she comes over every afternoon after school to take care of me. She really was the perfect GFE and I have already booked my return trip to see her.

Other tidbits.

I spend NYE in Copacabana which is a great party but too many people. Fireworks were great and easy to see because it is on the water. Apartment rentals are more expensive over NYE, ie. A minimum 10 day package at a higher rates.

My good friend wanted to go to Barbarella one Sunday night for a few drinks and to look at the ladies (she goes both ways). Aside from expensive drinks prices I thought the place was quite nice. Many ladies, some attractive some not, and then there were a few stunners. I could easily find some fun there. If you go as a single guy (s) the ladies will be all over you, but I had my 'date' so they did not chase me which was actually a really cool setup because I could sit and relax with my friend and whenever I saw a lady I liked my friend would go talk with them, bring them over and I would have a quick chat with them and get their numbers for some afternoon or early evening hook-up another day.

So in summary, I had a great time in Rio and just as much fun as I had in the 'good ol'days'.

[QUOTE=Junior; 1538502]Rio trip report.

The reports of the death or decline of mongering in Rio are greatly exaggerated.

So in summary, I had a great time in Rio and just as much fun as I had in the 'good ol'days'.[/QUOTE]Sure, you had great time because you seems to have lots of money (nothing wrong with that). If you have lots of money, you will have great time anywhere in the world.

For the rest, Rio is D-E-A-D. The obituary has already been typed. We ain't paying $2000$ for a ticket in cattle class and $250 / day for a 3 star hotel lousy stay; and then get a rushed $ 300 / session in Centaurus and most likely get assaulted on our way for a swim in the polluted beaches of Rio.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1538519]For the rest, Rio is D-E-A-D. The obituary has already been typed. We ain't paying $2000$ for a ticket in cattle class and $250 / day for a 3 star hotel lousy stay; and then get a rushed $ 300 / session in Centaurus and most likely get assaulted on our way for a swim in the polluted beaches of Rio.[/QUOTE]Not so. Prices have massively increased for the most part, but I travel there for a lot less, stay in cheaper places or motels that are less than half that, and my taste is not for overpriced top-end termas. It might be dead for you but not for everyone. Your "we" doesn't include all the visitors to Rio or to this board. But pleased you have found other places more to your taste.

Oglobo has a nice interactive guide for all the street carnavals, (Blocos.) Just enter the date and area, the guide will list all the blocos for that date, and show you their locations on Google map.

[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/carnaval/2014/blocos/programacao/[/url]