Fortaleza

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1157873]Everyone is saying Wednesday nite is ho nite at Armazem in Fortaleza, so I guess it must be true. But it does seem the programa girls or semi-pros at Armazem are not as open about it as the girls at Zipi and Mambo and Cafe del Mar. Not much smiling or eye contact as in those other places. How come? Any comments? (Also, seems to be hard to talk to them with all the loud music.)

Also, what is the deal with that disco in Armazem. The one to the far left as you enter Armazem. The music is so incredibly loud in that disco it's impossible to talk to anyone, even if they knew English. Are there GDPs also in that superloud disco? If so, how do you pick them up with all that noise? [/QUOTE]Armazem has live music, forró, in the main area and a smaller disco to the far left playing techno or whatever. Loud music? Well, it's a disco. The girls in the disco are same as the girls in the main area, I. E GP's.

Your other questions are just the same as those you asked in January.

Hi guys,

Pardon for the delay but here is my report of a 2 weeks travel in fortaleza in January.

It was the second time in there and I must admit that situation now is not very good, a lot

Of girls were missing and the whole panorama was not so interesting very much has changed in two years,

First night I was in Mambo, I've never been there before, there were a lot of girls but most of them were.

Seven and there were 2 or 3 eight but no stunners at all! I waited for some girl to catch my attention there

Was one dark skinned very gook body I wanted to stay a night and after some discussions I told.

Here I would pay 80 she was interested in me and so we made it. In the room she was crazy we made sex 4 or 5 times I don't remember but that's not a new with brazilian girls. After some days I spotted a very good looking girl sitting in a table at beiramar, she wasn't looking at me so I blinked.

An eye to her friend which I finally discovered to be a trans, but no worries my target was the other.

To summarize this girls was engaged with an old italian lawyer that was in fortaleza but I didn't care. I went one day out with her but I didn't have sex because she was too strange and she used cocaine like a lot of girls there. After two nights I met at a table in beira mar the tranny with a lot of garotas de programa, one of them Renata was I very nice blondie that made me go crazy to nights before making lap dance she asked me if "quer namorar comigo" I said yes I so I spent two funny GFE days with her but after that I pissed her of

Because I fucking italian kept calling her telling her that he was definitely in love she went made and she told me her mind was away and she asked me 200 reals but for this shitty attitude I told her I only hed 100, I spoke with her on messenger some days ago and she told me she is pregnant now, what a waste she is 19!

Last two girls were Monica and Jaqueline, Monica is a fortaleza girl married with an italian to keep things short we fucked one day and she keeps telling me to go and find her in milan. The other girl was a blondie one like Renata, not soo attractive though, she made me do everything I wanted, I paid her 150 reals for 2 hours but I paid so much because she was a friend of Renata and I wanted to left her some kind of "go fuck yourself" message. To summarize I didn't have problems finding girls but I go in brazil to find stunners and for this reason I won't go again in fortaleza, not to mentions that thanks to italian suckers girls now feel important and they are very stupid.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1157956]Armazem has live music, forró, in the main area and a smaller disco to the far left playing techno or whatever. Loud music? Well, it's a disco. The girls in the disco are same as the girls in the main area, I. E GP's.

Your other questions are just the same as those you asked in January. [/QUOTE]Glad to see you are checking up on me. You must have lots of free time.

I didn't get my questions completely answered before so I was hoping for better luck this time.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1158303]Glad to see you are checking up on me. You must have lots of free time.
I didn't get my questions completely answered before so I was hoping for better luck this time. [/QUOTE]You seemed hopelessy lost so I just wanted to help out with some of your questions. I kinda felt sorry for you being rejected by the GP's at Armazem.
Checking up on you? Nope, I just saw the same questions 4 posts below.

The truth is that a lot of european men, italians in particular are.

Literally harvesting fortaleza, filling women with a lof of money,

Now women are overvalued there and that's why I don't think is a good place to go.

I was at armazem and women preferred to be alone but almost no one came near to me.

Which for fortaleza's standards was very unusual.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1157873]Everyone is saying Wednesday nite is ho nite at Armazem in Fortaleza, so I guess it must be true. But it does seem the programa girls or semi-pros at Armazem are not as open about it as the girls at Zipi and Mambo and Cafe del Mar. Not much smiling or eye contact as in those other places. How come? Any comments? (Also, seems to be hard to talk to them with all the loud music.)

Also, what is the deal with that disco in Armazem. The one to the far left as you enter Armazem. The music is so incredibly loud in that disco it's impossible to talk to anyone, even if they knew English. Are there GDPs also in that superloud disco? If so, how do you pick them up with all that noise? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Genio Della;1158654]The truth is that a lot of european men, italians in particular are.
Literally harvesting fortaleza, filling women with a lof of money,
Now women are overvalued there and that's why I don't think is a good place to go.
I was at armazem and women preferred to be alone but almost no one came near to me.
Which for fortaleza's standards was very unusual.[/QUOTE]
Fortaleza is one the most monger-visited cities in Brazil. The majority of the mongers going there are Italians. The rest are a mix of Dutch, German, Scandinavians etc. There are direct flights from Italy so the Italians comes in large numbers. They stay for a short time and spend their money happily, resulting in overpaying the GP's.

Some of the GP's speaks Italian and are very happy for taking Italians as customer. However Italians have a bad rumour amongst the GP's in Fortaleza, resulting in that many GP's avoids having Italians as customers or only accept them when overcharging heavily. I always find it a great advantage not being Italian when negotiating with GP's in Fortaleza.

In Mambo, Café del Mar, Armazem etc I've often seen beautiful GP's choosing old, fat, badly-dressed European (non-Italians) men instead of young well-dressed Italian guys. Being Italian in Fortaleza might be a disadvantage.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1158733]In Mambo, Café del Mar, Armazem etc I've often seen beautiful GP's choosing old, fat, badly-dressed European (non-Italians) men instead of young well-dressed Italian guys. Being Italian in Fortaleza might be a disadvantage.[/QUOTE]Poll the girls and see how many have been to Italy vs how many have been to USA (yeah, we all know why). As for age: young is 'more work' and less cash. No mystery in any of this; no need to take shots at the Italians here: they're in Forta to party. Now, if you want to compare notes on the Israelis, then there's something to talk about.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1158745]Poll the girls and see how many have been to Italy vs how many have been to USA (yeah, we all know why). As for age: young is 'more work' and less cash. No mystery in any of this; no need to take shots at the Italians here: they're in Forta to party. Now, if you want to compare notes on the Israelis, then there's something to talk about.[/QUOTE]I was not taking any shots. I have no problem at all with the Italians in Fortaleza. I just explained the situation.

BTW, the old Italians havn't more luck than the young ones, so it's not about "more work".

Actually I am italian and I have problem with italians,

There is one kind of italian that pours some good money and goes away another kind, and there are a lot,

That bring them in italy marry them, fill them with a lot of money and then girls come back to fortaleza alone.

For vacation to do "programa", these girls become rich. Italians did the same with italian girls so it's not too good to see that destroy brazilian fauna.

Ahhhaahahaha.

P. S.

I was in an apartment toward beira mar, one girl lived there all paid by a sweden man and she told me she has 5 boyfriend in total. Only 21 years old.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1158901]I was not taking any shots. I have no problem at all with the Italians in Fortaleza. I just explained the situation.

BTW, the old Italians havn't more luck than the young ones, so it's not about "more work". [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1158901]just explained the situation.

BTW, the old Italians havn't more luck than the young ones, so it's not about "more work". [/QUOTE]You have your worm's eye view of the situation, like everyone. The old story is young Italians don't want to pay, while the old one's overpay. Reality somewhere in between. Meanwhile at Casa Blanca at breakfast Italians are in there with their dates avery morning. Some girls prefer them, some don't.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1159021]You have your worm's eye view of the situation, like everyone. The old story is young Italians don't want to pay, while the old one's overpay.[/QUOTE]Wrong. The young ones are just as willing to pay as the old ones. They come to Fortaleza for a short period and spend happily. Well, the thread is about Fortaleza so this subject isn't very important.

Italians old or young are desperate if they have money they will give everything if they don't have it they try to trick

Girls, the point is now in fortaleza very beautiful girls totally disappeared and the other are overvalued.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1159220]Wrong. The young ones are just as willing to pay as the old ones. They come to Fortaleza for a short period and spend happily. Well, the thread is about Fortaleza so this subject isn't very important.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1159220]Wrong. The young ones are just as willing to pay as the old ones. They come to Fortaleza for a short period and spend happily. Well, the thread is about Fortaleza so this subject isn't very important.[/QUOTE]Thankfully, you are the runnerup to the frognik prosal as the king of picking bones.

For Armazem on Wednesday: have an old friend GdP help you sort them out. She'll I. D. One for you who's interested in playing on the 'night off'.

[QUOTE=Genio Della;1159241]Girls, the point is now in fortaleza very beautiful girls totally disappeared and the other are overvalued.[/QUOTE]Do you think they've gone to Europe (or elsewhere) for the summer?

I've heard from two who went over to work. One in Spain and the other in Italy. And were deported end of last year.

Actually there is a whole colony of fortaleza girls in Naple, Turin and Rome they don't work officially, they are mantained,

Plus in fortaleza there are a lot of GFE like girls that come in europe with their monthly boyfriend then once arrived they start to take a paid tour in all most famous Cities, so it's easy to miss them in fortaleza even if they live there officially.

[QUOTE=Golfinho; 1159263]Do you think they've gone to Europe (or elsewhere) for the summer?

I've heard from two who went over to work. One in Spain and the other in Italy. And were deported end of last year. [/QUOTE]