General Reports

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4) There's quite a bit more pre-meeting work when punting on seekingarrangement. Emails back and forth, sending pics of yourself, getting some rejections. Some girls take a few days to even respond, and some won't respond at all. I've gotten some who will ask for a picture, and then go silent. I'm OK with that, no biggie.

With semi-pros / seekingarrangement ladies, there's no such mechanism for checks and balance. So if they flake out and don't show up, there's not much recourse for the punter.


1) Some girls out there do not have a good understanding of the "sugar" relationship. They either put out nothing essentially, and expect to be paid, some just to talk to them or even for the initial "meet and greet". Make sure to weed those out right away.


3) I am weary of 18-20 year olds. The maturity is usually not there. Of course you have to always watch out to make sure they are at least 18 years old!

4) You have to be an expert in evaluating photographs. Some end up much less attractive than their glamour shots they took 10 years ago. Some, however, have average pictures, but turn out to be very pretty in person!


7) We all like different things, but I tend to prefer college educated, or even ladies with higher education, graduate degrees. Just more in common, for me. For some of you, education level might not be a big deal.

8) When to discuss the money aspect of the arrangement. This has varied, but it has worked well both ways. Sometimes we get that agreement beforehand, even before we meet. Other times, we discuss in person only after dinner / drinks etc. When we both want to proceed with the arrangement.

9) If the sugarbaby LIKES you, you are GOLDEN For providers, almost all of them will proceed with the act and basically pretend (if they are skilled) to give you some affection and let you bang them. For the SB's who connect with you, WOW, they will be all over you, dripping wet pussy, tongue lashing, humping you like crazy in cowgirl, leg-shaking, multi-orgasmic events! It's unbelievable what can occur, and it would be highly unlikely to duplicate for professional providers, at least in my limited experience.

[/QUOTE]My earlier post was mainly directed as the HK / Asian experience with SA. You have a good handle on what goes on in the USA with SA. I actually went to one of the parties they put on in Las Vegas about 2 years ago and it was a disaster! They promoted it as a high end party with a lot of ladies that were seriously interested. In fact with the exception of about 8-10 guys the gents were at a private club they had rented at the Delano in golf shirts and Dockers. The steered the few real SB's to the tables were guys had paid a lot of money to reserve the table and had bottle service. I am sure they figured out about 48 hours before the party that it was going to be a sausage fest and sent out the word there was going to be a party with guys looking to "make a connection" and had money. There were a lot of "rental friends" in attendance that had no idea what the event was about, they were just looking to meet a client or two for a one hour romp.

The HK / Asian experience is much different to be sure and a lot less ladies involved and I am amazed at how many mainland girls put their info up and not in English. I don't know a lot of guys that are going to go across the border to meet a girl they cannot communicate with on an ongoing basis.

You are correct about college towns, Denver is teeming with Univ of Colorado gals, same for Orlando, Atlanta, etc. I suspect that most of the girls are receiving less than they tell their friends just because of the competition. I'm not very active, just because the whole purpose for me would be to meet someone to have an ongoing arrangement without all the work that goes into a full time relationship, my experience is the gals still want to be pursued and don't seem to get the dynamic, and then complain when they aren't taken seriously. I do pay them for showing up, as long as they dress and act like they are serious, even if we don't click, I think they deserve something for the effort. My success has been in the 28-35 range. They have some life experience and know how to show appreciation for being treated like a lady.

As I said, I did find a gem here in HK, but have not had the opportunity to reconnect, but need to "send up a flare soon" and see if we can enjoy another evening together.

Sky.

I've gleaned some helpful info here recently, and thought I'd post a report on my experiences as a first-time visitor to HK, for other folks like me landing on these pages.

Like others have mentioned, much of the action in HK seems to be centered around walk-up brothels and incall situations. I personally prefer a good outcall, and I'm happy to pay a premium for quality, convenience and reliability. I won't entertain stupid prices, but in general price is not high on my list of concerns -- it's about the quality of the experience, as I don't do this often, and I'm picky to a fault. And "free" options like Tinder or Skout or SA just require too much time and energy.

Smooci worked. The selection is thin in HK and the girl was not as attractive as the pictures but it was the same girl and she was on time and a good sport. I'd use it again if they had better selection. Price was higher than what you hear about for the incall options in HK but far from outrageous and it's fine by me because I get what I want and it's an outcall.

Next I tried a honeygirl. For fellow noobs, a honey girl, supposedly part-time SP from outside of HK (often the mainland) who is in town for a brief period and open for business. If you click the honeygirls link on Go141 you'll see they're often hot. Are they real? Can a foreigner do this? Well, I read here that you should go for one with a video, since videos are harder to fake. I found one, texted the number and had an appointment and address to go to within minutes. Easy. Too easy.

I said I much prefer outcalls but hey, I've never been to HK before and I'm up for an adventure. If this is actually real maybe I could get into this, I thought. Got to the address and then was given a room to go to via text. It was in a regular hotel with tourists and I tried to blend in and not look like a ham sup lo. Get to the room and the girl was most definitely not the one pictured. Similar age, but yeah not even close to the one in the video on the website. I came close to leaving but I had put all this energy into this and thought I'd see where it went. Maybe not the right move. Overall experience was depressing. Mechanical, awkward service with fake moaning, more or less resulting in self loathing Not something I'd do again. Thought about texting the guy behind the scenes again to give him a piece of my mind but why bother?

Next I thought I'd try one of the escort agencies you can find with a search. The girls on Smooci are generally from local agencies so maybe it's fine. Started to try and book one and then read on here about absurd prices from them ($7000+ HKD for 1 HR). Lame. Gave up on that.

The walk-up building thing is something I considered just for the adventure but after the honeygirl experience I doubt I'd be into it. I definitely don't want to be rubbing shoulders with other dudes in the hallway, etc.

So general take on HK: not my cup of tea I guess. Great city otherwise.

Hi,

What is the news re King Hing building? Still worth a visit? Still a mix of foreign and domestic workers + the Europeans?

Hello,

Not being too fussed about all the to and fros of trying various apps etc, I usually go to Kama Spa as an easy 'go to' place, it is central for me, offers more GFE than the cheaper more mechanical alternatives (E. G. K-Pressure. Although if you haven't been, do try it!

Visited Kama the other night, had a main lander available for HK $900 for an hour. Really decent firm massage, spent ages working out the knots after a long flight, then into the half way point, the tickling and kissing started. On the flip there was more all body kissing and stroking, before on go a flipsy piece of plastic and a BJ, followed by her mounting on top for vigorous outside rubbing action. This combined with more kissing got me over the edge, and the session was then completed with more massaging of head and shoulders.

It is pricier than what else you can get, but it is reliable and easy. I'm happy with that.

[QUOTE=MrRainman;2317622]Hello,

Not being too fussed about all the to and fros of trying various apps etc, I usually go to Kama Spa as an easy 'go to' place, it is central for me, offers more GFE than the cheaper more mechanical alternatives (E. G. K-Pressure. Although if you haven't been, do try it!

Visited Kama the other night, had a main lander available for HK $900 for an hour. Really decent firm massage, spent ages working out the knots after a long flight, then into the half way point, the tickling and kissing started. On the flip there was more all body kissing and stroking, before on go a flipsy piece of plastic and a BJ, followed by her mounting on top for vigorous outside rubbing action. This combined with more kissing got me over the edge, and the session was then completed with more massaging of head and shoulders.

It is pricier than what else you can get, but it is reliable and easy. I'm happy with that.[/QUOTE]Sounds fantastic. Very pleasurable experience.

[QUOTE=MrRainman;2317621]Hi,

What is the news re King Hing building? Still worth a visit? Still a mix of foreign and domestic workers + the Europeans?[/QUOTE]Went to check out KH in end-April. Not a single non-Asians in the building. Spent an hour climbing down and checking each alley.

[QUOTE=BearFoot;2318394]Many inda / paki by holiday inn tst. I not like never try.[/QUOTE]Is this in the Harry's Bar or outside? I have generally seen Indos and Blacks in Harry's Bar, Blacks outside the hotel near 7-11. But Indians / Pakis? Cannot recall seeing any WG. Or I did not realize they are guests of WG. At any given time, this Holiday Inn generally has at least 50% guest population from Indian subcontinent.

[QUOTE=FarEastTrader;2318910]Went to check out KH in end-April. Not a single non-Asians in the building. Spent an hour climbing down and checking each alley.[/QUOTE]Sad to hear, the Russian girls gave me the best service there.

Thanks for the report. I Googled and found Kama's website (located on Wyndham).

Question: Their website quotes 900 for 60 min in the VIP room, or 900 for 90 min in the Standard room -- the difference in rate being the naturist therapy feature. "What is the naturist therapy"?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MrRainman;2317622]Visited Kama the other night, had a main lander available for HK $900 for an hour. Really decent firm massage, spent ages working out the knots after a long flight, then into the half way point, the tickling and kissing started. On the flip there was more all body kissing and stroking, before on go a flipsy piece of plastic and a BJ, followed by her mounting on top for vigorous outside rubbing action. This combined with more kissing got me over the edge, and the session was then completed with more massaging of head and shoulders.[/QUOTE]

I was in a HK bar -- more to have a drink and listen to live music than anything else. I was approached by an overseas Filipina worker. She was attractive (just not to my personal liking). She was pleasant, and we chatted for a good while. Somewhere about the 15/20 min mark, she asked if I would buy her a shot of tequila. I asked her how much this lady drink would cost me; she replied HKD180. Having studied the menu when I arrived, I knew the listed price of a shot was HKD90. Under the bar, I slipped a HKD100 note into her hand. I leaned over and whispered into her ear (so the bartender wouldn't overhear) that I was giving her a HKD100 tip because I enjoyed chatting with her. She could keep the money for herself, or she could buy herself a tequila with that money -- it was her choice. She smiled; told me that she was going to the restroom, but would be back. I observed her go to the restroom. After emerging from the restroom, she purchased a shot for herself (at the opposite end of the bar, from where I was sitting); and returned.

I have done this on many occasions since. Some ladies take the money and buy themselves a drink; others keep the cash, admitting that their purpose was to earn money. I know they are there to earn money, and (personally) a small tip for their time is fair.

Thanks for all of those who post on this thread. The essays are most informative. But even the fragmented FRs pieced together can build a good picture.

[QUOTE=Qeast;2320568]Thanks for the report. I Googled and found Kama's website (located on Wyndham).

Question: Their website quotes 900 for 60 min in the VIP room, or 900 for 90 min in the Standard room -- the difference in rate being the naturist therapy feature. "What is the naturist therapy"?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Based on the photo, which shows a naked lady at the massage table, and the 'naturist' description, I'd suggest the extra HKD $300 is for the massage woman to strip off.