Bogota Reports

Wanted to follow up on this one and find out from you guys that go there regularly or have experience. I have about 4 nights coming up where I can potentially either get down to Bogota or go to my usual Tijuana. Tijuana's main draw is that it has HK and there are probably at least 15+ girls (40+ at nights) no matter what time of day you go but I find the sg scene lacking. Bogota was completely different though than I expected. The sg's were cute with a lot of young, cute, slim girls that ID be interested in. In the evenings I was hoping to then hit the clubs up. I'll be there likely on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday so potentially busy club nights.

I didn't make it into Atunes when there and it seems to be just a day club, secondly I didn't realize it but California looked interesting. I didn't go in there but there were some cute Sg's right outside it which I'm hoping means that same cute, slim non boob job type girls will be inside? I did reports on Paisas and Troya for both days when I went there between 4-7 pm'ish. The lineup of girls in both clubs was small with there only being 2 or 3 in Paisas on one of the days BUT I was there in the late afternoon. When does it start to get busy there and what would be a typical number of girls you could expect to see on a Fri / Sat night at those clubs?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2737195]All depends on when you go. I have walked in Troya plenty of nights and there were only 2 or 3 girls.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure woodman will chime in, but in my limited experience those clubs have double digits on the weekends. A few of them over 20 girls, maybe as many as 30 at Troya. I can't comment much on troya or lido, I only went to both of them one time and on a weeknight. They're expensive but the girls were pretty decent.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2738971]Wanted to follow up on this one and find out from you guys that go there regularly or have experience. I have about 4 nights coming up where I can potentially either get down to Bogota or go to my usual Tijuana. Tijuana's main draw is that it has HK and there are probably at least 15+ girls (40+ at nights) no matter what time of day you go but I find the sg scene lacking. Bogota was completely different though than I expected. The sg's were cute with a lot of young, cute, slim girls that ID be interested in. In the evenings I was hoping to then hit the clubs up. I'll be there likely on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday so potentially busy club nights.

I didn't make it into Atunes when there and it seems to be just a day club, secondly I didn't realize it but California looked interesting. I didn't go in there but there were some cute Sg's right outside it which I'm hoping means that same cute, slim non boob job type girls will be inside? I did reports on Paisas and Troya for both days when I went there between 4-7 pm'ish. The lineup of girls in both clubs was small with there only being 2 or 3 in Paisas on one of the days BUT I was there in the late afternoon. When does it start to get busy there and what would be a typical number of girls you could expect to see on a Fri / Sat night at those clubs?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2738971]Wanted to follow up on this one and find out from you guys that go there regularly or have experience. I have about 4 nights coming up where I can potentially either get down to Bogota or go to my usual Tijuana. Tijuana's main draw is that it has HK and there are probably at least 15+ girls (40+ at nights) no matter what time of day you go but I find the sg scene lacking. Bogota was completely different though than I expected. The sg's were cute with a lot of young, cute, slim girls that ID be interested in. In the evenings I was hoping to then hit the clubs up. I'll be there likely on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday so potentially busy club nights.

I didn't make it into Atunes when there and it seems to be just a day club, secondly I didn't realize it but California looked interesting. I didn't go in there but there were some cute Sg's right outside it which I'm hoping means that same cute, slim non boob job type girls will be inside? I did reports on Paisas and Troya for both days when I went there between 4-7 pm'ish. The lineup of girls in both clubs was small with there only being 2 or 3 in Paisas on one of the days BUT I was there in the late afternoon. When does it start to get busy there and what would be a typical number of girls you could expect to see on a Fri / Sat night at those clubs?[/QUOTE]You need to go later to the clubs like 9 pm-- There are 20-30 girls in those clubs you mentioned.

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[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2736234]I don't see a lot of reports for photoprepagos or other sites. Maybe because they come and go? I saw this chica at an apartment on Sunday. I think she qualifies as flaquita. What do you think? I think maybe 5'2". I did an hour for 100 plus 30 for bbj. Forgot to negotiate going down on her up front.

Another 30 in the moment. Pretty good experience and speaking Spanish would have amped the experience up. I went down on her for like 15 minutes and she was scratching my arms. Much more affectionate after that I'm going to revisit to see if things improve more since it's walking distance. Also a queen bed!

https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/chapinero/una-morena-sexy-con-nalgas-demasiado-bellas-id-c94gk[/QUOTE]I found plenty of pre paid, SA and on line escorts in Bogota. The Santa Fe scene is hit or miss but if you settle for a street girl, there are lots. Poor quality however. Medellin is better and a lot more expensive.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2738971]Tijuana's main draw is that it has HK and there are probably at least 15+ girls (40+ at nights)[/QUOTE]15 girls? WTF you talking about? Pre-annexation of Chavelas, HK used to regularly have 600 putas on a weekend. Now that they absorbed Las Chevelas and its chicas, and with the west wing expansion, I'd say HK features 900 chicas on a weekend. Weeknights maybe 250 putas. Sante Fe has only one advantage over Tijuana, and that is cost. Putas and drinks cost significantly less in Santa Fe. Tijuana has more chicas, better looking chicas, better food options, safer, and is more accessible for most USA mongers. But there is absolutely no comparison between Santa Fe clubs and Tijuana Clubs. It's like comparing a Maybach to a skateboard. HK by itself outperforms every Bogota club combined. Comfort-wise, the Bogota clubs are on par Hacienda, which is the worst, most disgusting club in Tijuana. And I hate Hong Kong.

Clam, I've seen your posts in the Tijuana section. Not doubting your experience and I Haven't been to HK post COVID so haven't seen the expansion but from everything I'm seeing on this board and other Tijuana boards it's good. I'm specifically looking to travel on the busier club nights of the week. There have been plenty of times during the day on sundays where the lineup in HK has been poor and yes sometimes there's been about 15-20 girls. I'm kinda ballparking it as I don't sit there and literally count the individual girls just as I'm assuming you're ballparking it by saying there's now 900 chicas on the weekend. Many of the chicas are repeats on Thu, Fri & Sat nights and I've never seen the club come anywhere close to 600 girls in a night? Not going to argue over specific numbers as it may be close to 100 but I sure as hell have not seen 600 chicas in 1 night at HK. What are you talking about lmao?

Again, if you read my post I am not looking for HK type girls. Colombia has them as well. I am more into spinner, or young, slim, small tits and ass type girls. HK rarely has this but when they do I scoop them up. Short, petite, young, innocent looking chicas typically started off in Tropical and for a little while Tropical was great. It's since declined with the odd one or two girls appearing. Same in HK, they'll have the odd one or two girls like this and an occasional almost too thin girl but it's not the norm. Those are the girls I like. As far as SG talent, I've been with all the sg's that fit that bill in Tijuana. Karina, Michelle, etc etc. So I'm on the lookout for new options. In addition, HK girls and for that matter most tropical girls start at $100 usd. I got a HK type girl in Troya for I think it was $65 usd which included cumming over her pretty, cute face and mouth. HK I'the be at $100 before even adding the cost of COF or CIM.

Secondly, I know what Tijuana will give me. I've been there numerous times, but like I said I was pleasantly surprised that the sg's in Santa Fe were not all "stereotypical" Colombians with fat butts and major curves. When I was there I saw quite a few girls that fit my cute, young, slim, short look. As noted in my posts as well, I was there on business so had limited time to visit Santa Fe except for early to late afternoons so not the best time to judge clubs by (including Tijuana clubs) but there were a few young girls that fit those exact needs in Paisas one afternoon specifically.

Thirdly, variety is the spice of life. Tijuana's great for a couple of days but after that I need something else to do to pass a few hours post and pre sport fucking. Places like CDMX and Bogota give me that. I can fuck as much as I want but then if I want to break away for a few hours I can sightsee, grab some amazing coffee / food, visit markets, etc. Tijuana doesn't give that unless I go back across the border or travel to the Tijuana beaches (which realistically aren't the best and take too long to get to).

So, again, if you've been to the clubs in Santa Fe then let's stick to the question which has now already been answered but. What's been your experience to the number of girls in the clubs there on a Friday, Saturday night?

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2739198]15 girls? WTF you talking about? Pre-annexation of Chavelas, HK used to regularly have 600 putas on a weekend. Now that they absorbed Las Chevelas and its chicas, and with the west wing expansion, I'd say HK features 900 chicas on a weekend. Weeknights maybe 250 putas. Sante Fe has only one advantage over Tijuana, and that is cost. Putas and drinks cost significantly less in Santa Fe. Tijuana has more chicas, better looking chicas, better food options, safer, and is more accessible for most USA mongers. But there is absolutely no comparison between Santa Fe clubs and Tijuana Clubs. It's like comparing a Maybach to a skateboard. HK by itself outperforms every Bogota club combined. Comfort-wise, the Bogota clubs are on par Hacienda, which is the worst, most disgusting club in Tijuana. And I hate Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2739340]Clam, I've seen your posts in the Tijuana section. Not doubting your experience and I Haven't been to HK post COVID so haven't seen the expansion but from everything I'm seeing on this board and other Tijuana boards it's good. I'm specifically looking to travel on the busier club nights of the week. There have been plenty of times during the day on sundays where the lineup in HK has been poor and yes sometimes there's been about 15-20 girls. I'm kinda ballparking it as I don't sit there and literally count the individual girls just as I'm assuming you're ballparking it by saying there's now 900 chicas on the weekend. Many of the chicas are repeats on Thu, Fri & Sat nights and I've never seen the club come anywhere close to 600 girls in a night? Not going to argue over specific numbers as it may be close to 100 but I sure as hell have not seen 600 chicas in 1 night at HK. What are you talking about lmao?

Again, if you read my post I am not looking for HK type girls. Colombia has them as well. I am more into spinner, or young, slim, small tits and ass type girls. HK rarely has this but when they do I scoop them up. Short, petite, young, innocent looking chicas typically started off in Tropical and for a little while Tropical was great. It's since declined with the odd one or two girls appearing. Same in HK, they'll have the odd one or two girls like this and an occasional almost too thin girl but it's not the norm. Those are the girls I like. As far as SG talent, I've been with all the sg's that fit that bill in Tijuana. Karina, Michelle, etc etc. So I'm on the lookout for new options. In addition, HK girls and for that matter most tropical girls start at $100 usd. I got a HK type girl in Troya for I think it was $65 usd which included cumming over her pretty, cute face and mouth. HK I'the be at $100 before even adding the cost of COF or CIM.

Secondly, I know what Tijuana will give me. I've been there numerous times, but like I said I was pleasantly surprised that the sg's in Santa Fe were not all "stereotypical" Colombians with fat butts and major curves. When I was there I saw quite a few girls that fit my cute, young, slim, short look. As noted in my posts as well, I was there on business so had limited time to visit Santa Fe except for early to late afternoons so not the best time to judge clubs by (including Tijuana clubs) but there were a few young girls that fit those exact needs in Paisas one afternoon specifically.

Thirdly, variety is the spice of life. Tijuana's great for a couple of days but after that I need something else to do to pass a few hours post and pre sport fucking. Places like CDMX and Bogota give me that. I can fuck as much as I want but then if I want to break away for a few hours I can sightsee, grab some amazing coffee / food, visit markets, etc. Tijuana doesn't give that unless I go back across the border or travel to the Tijuana beaches (which realistically aren't the best and take too long to get to).

So, again, if you've been to the clubs in Santa Fe then let's stick to the question which has now already been answered but. What's been your experience to the number of girls in the clubs there on a Friday, Saturday night?[/QUOTE]DaVinci, I actually agree with most of your points. Except for the chica count at HK. Pre-Covid, you know how it was. Fri / Sat nights were jam packed, wall to wall putas packed like sardines. HK has a mandatory policy of having chicas dance on the two main bars, two main stages, and the satellite stages. So just there, you have about 15 chicas. Miami room would always have around 25 chicas. 2nd floor north end would have 80 chicas sitting at the tables. South end would have around 50. The mini stairs on the first floor would be flanked on both sides by around 20 chicas. The area around the main stage would have 100 chicas. Alley stage another 80 chicas. Count all the chicas that you can't see, probably at least 75 in the locker rooms changing outfits and fixing their makeup. 30-40 in the bathrooms at at any given time. Probably at least 50 getting fucked in Cascadas. The deadest weekend night would have minimum 400 chicas. Sit upstairs, where the stairs are that lead to the locker rooms. You will see a steady stream of chicas coming down, literally non-stop. I mean, you will literally not see more than 3 seconds pass between chicas for hours and hours. Truly unbelievable! You are correct, my numbers are ballparked because there is no way possible to keep count that high. But it is an intelligent estimate based on my direct observations. You admit that you "ballparked" your estimate as well. But, that kind of defeats your own argument because there is no reason to ballpark a number that low. You can easily keep an accurate count of up to a maximum of 20 chicas. So your contention does not make sense.

Your taste is the same as mine. I go for the clean-looking, innocent-looking skinny natural ones. That's it. Big titted, even natural, doesn't appeal to me. I don't like tatts either but these days it's next to impossible to find a puta who isn't tatted.

And I agree that Bogota is much more economical than Tijuana. Tijuana shares a border with a wealthy American city, and LOS Angeles, San Francisco, Vegas and Phoenix a manageable drive away. The influx of gringo dollars has surely influenced market prices of putas in Tijuana. Bogota, due to its distance, has not been affected by gringo dollars at anywhere near the scale Tijuana has.

Also agreed is how variety is the spice of life. Frankly, I'm burned out by Tijuana and that's why I've been making recent trips to Bogota. If I had been mongering in Bogota for the past 10 years, I'm sure I'd be itching to visit Tijuana.

Street talent I have no interest in so I really have no comment on Santa Fe vs. Tijuana. 10 years ago, SG's were elbow to elbow in ZN and there were some stunners. Lately, it's thinned down quite a bit and looks-wise it's down as well.

As far as comfort of the clubs, I don't think anybody will argue that Santa Fe is even in the same ballpark as Tijuana. The main clubs in Tijuana feature an American level of comfort and amenities. I've been to all the Santa Fe bars and they are all miserable dumps. Even the lower tier Tijuana clubs such as Gold Palace / La Carreta / La Valentina / Dolce Gabbana / Playboy are all considerably nicer than the best Santa Fe clubs. La Hacienda across from MQ is the only Tijuana club shitty enough to be compared to Sante Fe clubs.

I don't even like Mexican food that much but it is still worlds better than Colombian food. You're saying that Bogota has better food than Tijuana? Coffee yes, but the food? No way man! I find it funny that Colombians and Venezuelans argue over which country invented the arepa. It's like, who the fuck wants to take credit for such horrible food? Colombia has arguably the worst food on the planet. The reason why Colombians eat so many hot dogs, ribs, wings, hamburgers and pizza is that their own food sucks ass. You ever seen a Colombian restaurant outside of Colombia? They don't exist because nobody wants to eat that shit.

Bogota is a much bigger city than Tijuana but the reality is, there isn't much to sightsee there. The danger level for gringos in the southern areas like Soacha, Bosa, Cuidad Bolivar is way too high to venture out. Usaquen, Chico Norte, Santa Barbara, North Chapinero, Parque 93 and Cedritos are nice and relatively safe. Considerably nicer than Tijuana I admit. I did see an Cartier boutique in Usaquen which surprised me. But outside of those areas, there is nothing to see in Bogota. Tijuana at least has the beach and Valle de Guadalupe a short drive away.

As far as the Santa Fe clubs on a weekend, I wouldn't know. I have no desire to ever go back there. It's too dangerous and I don't like the vibe there. Tijuana patrons are mostly Americans or normal locals going to drink and have a good time. Santa Fe has a whole different vibe. The clientele, I can just tell, many are violent criminals. I visited a few other clubs in Bogota like Mora Mora and I did not feel such a negative vibe. Felt like Tijuana, just normal guys going out to have a good time drinking. I don't know if you read my previous Bogota TR, but I was actually assaulted inside Fiebre on a Thursday night in late April. An attempted robbery but I managed to escape largely unscathed. So if you go, be extra careful. The Venezuelans there are desperate and just don't give a fuck about harming a foreigner for financial benefit.

[QUOTE=KoalaCola;2738612]Looking forward to the SF tour with woodman.

BTW: exch rate at the airport:

USDCOP: 4000. :8% worse than midmarket.

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Sim card at the airport shop after customs: $30 for 10 GB /7 days. I thought I saw it as "USD 30" rather than COP so I skipped. If I am mistaken, and it was COP 30 k, then ii guess its a reasonble markup for the convenience. If not, going to a phone shop yields much lower rates.[/QUOTE]Have you got a subscribtion? I paid for mine last week, emailed admin twice and still no answer.

Cheers Gents! How do I request for a tour with Woodman? Please forgive my ignorance if someone already posted about it.

I sent a DM to a user named woodman9 but did not receive a response. Any info here is appreciated.

[QUOTE=ManuelRamirez;2739513]Have you got a subscribtion? I paid for mine last week, emailed admin twice and still no answer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoverG;2739869]Cheers Gents! How do I request for a tour with Woodman? Please forgive my ignorance if someone already posted about it.

I sent a DM to a user named woodman9 but did not receive a response. Any info here is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Your message storage needs clearing. I could not reply to your PM.

I couldn't disagree with you more about Santa Fe. Hot chicas standing in front of every love motel and on every corner. Meseros couldn't be nicer to me, smiles on their faces every time I see them. I've spent almost 20 days in Bogota, I'm here currently. I've been down to Sante Fe both day and night. I've been solo, I've been with my Venezuelan born best friend from America. I've been on Woodmans tour. I haven't felt unsafe for even a moment. There are cops everywhere, there were armed military last night. There's good food at king swarma, there's good food at the bakery on Calle 23, I've had good street food down there too. I've gotten laid from a street girl for as low as $10 and from a club girl for as low as $15. Santa Fe is incredible.

As for the rest of Bogota, where the fuck have you been trying to eat? Who cares if you hate Colombian food, there are incredible restaurants everywhere in this city. Harry Sasson, Cacio & Pepe, La Brasserie, Di Lucca, La Bonga, La Tequeria, WOK, Storia, Astoria rooftop, Andres, home burgers, masa 81, Criterion, Conosur, casa del Rey, La Picaderia, El Tambor, crepes & waffles. If you're not eating some of the best food you've ever had at a fraction of the cost you could get it in the states, you've missed one of the absolute best things Bogota has to offer besides their sex workers. If the girls in Santa fe aren't your speed, maybe try out Lido, the club is nicer than most American strip clubs I've been to, and I've been to maybe 100. The lights are turned up and the music is turned down so that you can chat with the girls. The girls are stunners, dressed elegantly with their hair and make up done up perfect. They're expensive, $75-125 per hour. But so are your Tijuana girls.

It sounds like you've got a perspective issue. I hated Medellin when I was in parque Lleras, it was too Americanized for me personally. So I moved hotels to centro and found exactly what I was looking for in Botero Plaza and the surrounding brothels and strip clubs. I've stayed in 5 different neighborhoods in Bogota on my trip so that I could get multiple perspectives of each area and it's opened my eyes to a lot.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2739507]DaVinci, I actually agree with most of your points. Except for the chica count at HK. Pre-Covid, you know how it was. Fri / Sat nights were jam packed, wall to wall putas packed like sardines. HK has a mandatory policy of having chicas dance on the two main bars, two main stages, and the satellite stages. So just there, you have about 15 chicas. Miami room would always have around 25 chicas. 2nd floor north end would have 80 chicas sitting at the tables. South end would have around 50. The mini stairs on the first floor would be flanked on both sides by around 20 chicas. The area around the main stage would have 100 chicas. Alley stage another 80 chicas. Count all the chicas that you can't see, probably at least 75 in the locker rooms changing outfits and fixing their makeup. 30-40 in the bathrooms at at any given time. Probably at least 50 getting fucked in Cascadas. The deadest weekend night would have minimum 400 chicas. Sit upstairs, where the stairs are that lead to the locker rooms. You will see a steady stream of chicas coming down, literally non-stop. I mean, you will literally not see more than 3 seconds pass between chicas for hours and hours. Truly unbelievable! You are correct, my numbers are ballparked because there is no way possible to keep count that high. But it is an intelligent estimate based on my direct observations. You admit that you "ballparked" your estimate as well. But, that kind of defeats your own argument because there is no reason to ballpark a number that low. You can easily keep an accurate count of up to a maximum of 20 chicas. So your contention does not make sense..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FriskyFrank;2739943]I couldn't disagree with you more about Santa Fe. Hot chicas standing in front of every love motel and on every corner. Meseros couldn't be nicer to me, smiles on their faces every time I see them. I've spent almost 20 days in Bogota, I'm here currently. I've been down to Sante Fe both day and night. I've been solo, I've been with my Venezuelan born best friend from America. I've been on Woodmans tour. I haven't felt unsafe for even a moment. There are cops everywhere, there were armed military last night. There's good food at king swarma, there's good food at the bakery on Calle 23, I've had good street food down there too. I've gotten laid from a street girl for as low as $10 and from a club girl for as low as $15. Santa Fe is incredible.

As for the rest of Bogota, where the fuck have you been trying to eat? Who cares if you hate Colombian food, there are incredible restaurants everywhere in this city. Harry Sasson, Cacio & Pepe, La Brasserie, Di Lucca, La Bonga, La Tequeria, WOK, Storia, Astoria rooftop, Andres, home burgers, masa 81, Criterion, Conosur, casa del Rey, La Picaderia, El Tambor, crepes & waffles. If you're not eating some of the best food you've ever had at a fraction of the cost you could get it in the states, you've missed one of the absolute best things Bogota has to offer besides their sex workers. If the girls in Santa fe aren't your speed, maybe try out Lido, the club is nicer than most American strip clubs I've been to, and I've been to maybe 100. The lights are turned up and the music is turned down so that you can chat with the girls. The girls are stunners, dressed elegantly with their hair and make up done up perfect. They're expensive, $75-125 per hour. But so are your Tijuana girls.

It sounds like you've got a perspective issue. I hated Medellin when I was in parque Lleras, it was too Americanized for me personally. So I moved hotels to centro and found exactly what I was looking for in Botero Plaza and the surrounding brothels and strip clubs. I've stayed in 5 different neighborhoods in Bogota on my trip so that I could get multiple perspectives of each area and it's opened my eyes to a lot.[/QUOTE]For supper try, Amarte, T-Bone, Ushin, Madison. !

Hello,

Visiting Bogota for 1st time in a few days, wanted to get an advice whether to use your regular international number or get an eSIM for connecting with Chicas?

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2739340]Clam, I've seen your posts in the Tijuana section. Not doubting your experience and I Haven't been to HK post COVID so haven't seen the expansion but from everything I'm seeing on this board and other Tijuana boards it's good. I'm specifically looking to travel on the busier club nights of the week. There have been plenty of times during the day on sundays where the lineup in HK has been poor and yes sometimes there's been about 15-20 girls. I'm kinda ballparking it as I don't sit there and literally count the individual girls just as I'm assuming you're ballparking it by saying there's now 900 chicas on the weekend. Many of the chicas are repeats on Thu, Fri & Sat nights and I've never seen the club come anywhere close to 600 girls in a night? Not going to argue over specific numbers as it may be close to 100 but I sure as hell have not seen 600 chicas in 1 night at HK. What are you talking about lmao?

Again, if you read my post I am not looking for HK type girls. Colombia has them as well. I am more into spinner, or young, slim, small tits and ass type girls. HK rarely has this but when they do I scoop them up. Short, petite, young, innocent looking chicas typically started off in Tropical and for a little while Tropical was great. It's since declined with the odd one or two girls appearing. Same in HK, they'll have the odd one or two girls like this and an occasional almost too thin girl but it's not the norm. Those are the girls I like. As far as SG talent, I've been with all the sg's that fit that bill in Tijuana. Karina, Michelle, etc etc. So I'm on the lookout for new options. In addition, HK girls and for that matter most tropical girls start at $100 usd. I got a HK type girl in Troya for I think it was $65 usd which included cumming over her pretty, cute face and mouth. HK I'the be at $100 before even adding the cost of COF or CIM.

Secondly, I know what Tijuana will give me. I've been there numerous times, but like I said I was pleasantly surprised that the sg's in Santa Fe were not all "stereotypical" Colombians with fat butts and major curves. When I was there I saw quite a few girls that fit my cute, young, slim, short look. As noted in my posts as well, I was there on business so had limited time to visit Santa Fe except for early to late afternoons so not the best time to judge clubs by (including Tijuana clubs) but there were a few young girls that fit those exact needs in Paisas one afternoon specifically.

Thirdly, variety is the spice of life. Tijuana's great for a couple of days but after that I need something else to do to pass a few hours post and pre sport fucking. Places like CDMX and Bogota give me that. I can fuck as much as I want but then if I want to break away for a few hours I can sightsee, grab some amazing coffee / food, visit markets, etc. Tijuana doesn't give that unless I go back across the border or travel to the Tijuana beaches (which realistically aren't the best and take too long to get to).

So, again, if you've been to the clubs in Santa Fe then let's stick to the question which has now already been answered but. What's been your experience to the number of girls in the clubs there on a Friday, Saturday night?[/QUOTE]BOG. The costs of the SG's in Santa Fe are dirt cheap. The vibe is horrible. The rooms are mostly filthy. 15 min is standard. Hurry up and finish. Pay more, get more time (maybe) In the clubs the hottest girls (club girls) charge 150 COP +/ Take out costs 200+/- depending on time, girl and destination. Risky. I found 2/3 girls in 6 trips there that I wanted to do. The time spent searching for one was far more than in Tijuana.

I met a lot of SA girls in BOG, all 10's and semi expensive. $600 COP for 2 hours and sometimes dinners after. I would repeat with any of them. Great memories. So the price range is considerable as is the quality of your experience.

SF -Your MMV. If you are used to this area it means you have learned what to expect. Woodman can save you time. Bogota rooms outside of SF are much less expensive than in Tijuana, very nice with tons of choices.

Tijuana –costs to travel are under $100 for a flight or driving. HKTJ rooms and clean rooms nearby are $100/ night unless you go on Monday, Tuesday. SG's as low as $40. Club girls starting at $80 for 15/20 min in a nice, clean room. The short term rooms outside of HKTJ are slightly better than SF.

The VIBE. In Tijuana The ocean is 15 min away. Nicer beaches in Rosarito and south are 20-30 min away. Very nice. Rooms in hktj are very nice. Food nearby is horrible to decent. Away from the zona food is terrific.

Comparatively. BOG is a far better deal on rooms. It might cost you $600 usd for a flight that takes 10-12 hours plus time at airports. Same cost for Medellin unless you live in Miami. So you spend 2 days traveling. Personally I will go to SF and see what is available but I will already check with previous girls or look for new ones on SA or on agency sites before I get on the plane. Those girls will cost $70-$120 for 1 ½ - 2 hours. Most will be hotter than any Tijuana girl. Minimum to justify the trip is a week stay. In the past I stayed for a month and longer.

Medellin is a different world. So many guys visiting now. Not going to write about that here but it was terrific, beautiful city as is Colombia! (and expensive).

Bottom line (for me) going to Tijuana is affordable for 2 nights. I am very picky but the odds are I will find one or 2 girls. Cost a minimum of $600 USD and either leave for USA or head south for the Ocean.

Going to BOG means planning to stay at least 7 nights. Probably 10 so I can visit Medellin also. Airfare $600, plus room $300 +/ plus entertainment. $600 +/- plus meals $250+/- Total minimum trip - $1800. Alas I know I will probably meet a 10 somewhere and that will put me over budget. It is hard to pass up on the most beautiful women you will find anywhere. Then there is the rest of the country.

So (for me) Tijuana cost is 1/3 of Bog. Ambiance is OK and I usually go to the Ocean while I am there (used to live there) the TIME factor to visit BOG sucks but the quality of the WOMEN in Colombia is amazing. You need to treat them nice and see what happens. Unless you are in SF. They are cheap.