Pattaya Reports

Believe me, I am not trying to be a wise guy, just amazed at your analysis. Of course the beach road girls are going to want short time. Simple formula, boom boom x customer x bhat. Not rocket science.

I talked to one gal, rather heavy set, who told me she made an average of 2500 to 3000 bhat a night servicing primarily Indian customers. After we talked, got up to leave and guess who sat down next to her.

[QUOTE=Priamos;1409340]Perhaps someone can help me solve the following mystery. I've visited Patts a few times and, being a daytime monger, I prefer bars and the street to discotheques. In my experience, if you approach a bar girl (even a waitress in some places) in the late afternoon or early evening and ask if she's available long-time until the next morning, mostly she will jump into your arms and exclaim "YES, my big honey!". However, on the Beach Road, if you ask a girl the same question she will usually drop her shoulders and moan "Oh, bad luck. He wants LT." Has anybody else noticed this difference? And, if so, why is that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HenryV; 1409996]Believe me, I am not trying to be a wise guy, just amazed at your analysis. Of course the beach road girls are going to want short time. Simple formula, boom boom x customer x bhat. Not rocket science.

I talked to one gal, rather heavy set, who told me she made an average of 2500 to 3000 bhat a night servicing primarily Indian customers. After we talked, got up to leave and guess who sat down next to her.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure many, if not most, of the beach road girls go for days without customers. You are right regarding heavy women though. While I don't care for them, there are plenty of guys for which that is their type. I was talking to a bar owner about this. I asked why he had a fat dancer, because I figured she'd not get many customers. He said that she is one of the most popular in the club. Also, I remember this Korean guy from years ago. He was really in shape, not an ounce of fat and washboard abs. He loved fat women, and I'm not talking about thick either, I mean full on fat.

The better looking girls know there is a good chance they can get another customer when they go back to the street, but the lesser attractive know they won't. Sometimes, the girl wants to leave simply because they are hungry. After they got some cash in their pocket, they head for the noodle stand.

[QUOTE=RBDave;1410055]You are right regarding heavy women though. While I don't care for them, there are plenty of guys for which that is their type. I was talking to a bar owner about this. I asked why he had a fat dancer, because I figured she'd not get many customers. He said that she is one of the most popular in the club.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I assume this must be a Pattaya specific phenomenon? A classic supply-demand mismatch. I remember once in BKK (Soi Cowboy) when I got in a strange BBW-loving mood. I went into a gogo and sat down. After a while the mamasan asked me why I was not interested in her beautiful girls. I said quietly that I "prefer round girls". She beamed and yelled a command into the backroom. After 60 seconds I was surrounded by a handful of fat waitresses (several of whom I had not seen on the floor) , smiling and giggling and slobbering over me. I was clearly not the first client to ask that question, and they were ready to deliver. I have not come across that in Patts so, as I said, it must be a case of a certain demand and almost no supply.

ok, since you guys are the best friends i've ever had, will let you in a few of my secrets after spending over two months in pattaya.

two months is enough time. i do feel that it's time to leave; work hard, play hard. best to leave wanting more. spoke to one guy who despises pattaya. hates the girls, and hates everything about the place. he's lived there years, and now burned out. if he left the country after each two / three months, he may still love it. personally, can't wait to return.

ok, to the words of advice.

there are places which have smoothies at 40 to 65 baht. have them cut the fruit in front of you. no sugar! carry your own 7/11 water with you, and have them add it. the ice round, not chipped. personal favorite is a mix of pineapple and dragon fruit.

subway sandwich. they have a daily 69 baht special. all good, except for the chili chicken and ham / chicken. cheap and pretty nutritious.

those chicken stands which sell chicken thigh and drumstick for 40 baht. cheap. protein. and while there, grab some gal who is walking by. but be careful, one place literally had cockroaches crawling on the chicken. the woman cooking was completely unconcerned too. then again, this is a country which eats bugs as a snack. i've seen kitchens at even expensive restaurants in pattaya, and some are beyond words disgusting. always watch them preparing the food, if possible. and no pepper / salt / crap on the chicken; they completely drown it in that poison.

suitcases. recall it's either sio 12 or 14, north on 2nd road. there's a suitcase place at the corner. no, not that one. now go north a few stores. that one. always great prices there. then check everywhere else in pattaya, including the night bizarre (north on 2nd a bit opposite side of road). then return and buy. do not negotiate price since you're getting the correct price. they always give me great pries, but it could be since they know me, so ymmv.

scams: i sensed one gal tried to steal from me. i tossed her out immediately after the deed. one guy from india came to me. looked like some type of swami or something: 'you will live a long life. do you know why? ' popper: 'no. ' and walked away. twice, a farang (both times different people) approached me and wanted something or tried to drag me somewhere. sensed something wrong, and walked away. those of you who walk pattaya drunk are just begging for trouble, and you'll will find it.

girls: i would say that outside of that one, worst girl problem was a rare non-performer. most of the girls were amazingly nice. others just loved sex and very orgasmic. that said, always locked up valuables. personally i place things in the safe, and in the locked suitcase, ideally inside a locked closet.

health: had a rash, about an inch away from little popper. antibiotics cleared it up. also, got teeth cleaned (800 to 1400 baht) and corrected misc general health issues. health care in the usa is the most expensive in the world, perhaps by a factor of higher than ten. heck, that rash back in the states would have cost me over $200 between seeing a doctor, medication, etc. in thailand just asked the pharm, and total cost was 200 baht for cipro. gee i wonder which system is better.

total number of total bar fines: (ummm let me calculate. add five plus seven, times two, carry the three, to the third power. got it.) total number: zero. none. zippo. zilch. nix. bar fines are for fools. or are you proud to purchase snow in antarctica. not to mention the time wasted, overpriced drinks, lds, and mindnumbingly idiotic conversations ('whad you name', 'where you flom', 'you pray connect 4', 'how wrong you lib in pattaya', etc.)

price for st: 700 to 800, however last few nights after searching for over an hour i gave in and one time agreed to 900 and other 1000 baht. but those gals were super pretty, and damn i got lucky with them. absolute performers and keepers.

price for massages: 800 to 1000.

price for soi six / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (when they were open) /bliss, etc. 900 – 1200, and includes a room.

methodology: spot gal. eye contact. smile. hold out hand slightly. let her grab it. 'i love you' 'will you marry me' 'you're the love of my life' 'you're the girl of my dreams' etc. play with them. hold their hand and playfully swing back and forth. kiss their cheek. 'how much you want for short time. ' (always let her give the first price. if she says 2000 baht, counter with 20 baht and let her walk away. if she says 700 or less, accept, if you want her. if she says 1000) 'i love you 700 baht. ' play with them more. swing their hands more. play with their hair. gaze deep in their eyes. 'you see that bar over there. i buy it for you. ' 'you see that car over there. i buy it for you mama and papa. ' 'you see the ocean, i buy for you. ' if still resistance to 700 baht 'i love you 800 baht. '

number of times: 1. 5 gals a day. last two days increased to three gals each day. needed vit c to help out, esp at the end. have a friend back in the states, married. she was pretty cute back college, but after two kids weight tripled, and her tits, stomach, butt now as one. he is faithful and bangs three times a year, and if you saw her, you'd understand why. i had as many as, and more in a day than he, and many americans do in a year.

biggest lie told the girls. 'don't worry, i won't cum in your mouth. '

number of butt sex: three times. last time i stuck it partly in her butt. gal: 'how much you give me? ' popper '20 baht' and shoved little popper in (see the third picture of gal in shower with a nice rack). most gals reluctant to do butt sex.

funniest moment. saw this muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this st hotel with an obvious lady boy. it was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. hummmm. suspect many of those xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. but who am i to judge.

funniest bar girl line: gal: 'you give me tip' popper (while smiling) : 'i gave you three orgasms. that's your tip, and you owe me a tip for all your orgasms. ' gal: 'i only had two orgasms. the last one was faked. '

lesson learned. each trip i learn something different. this time, as soon as i walk in hotel room i say to gal 'you want to watch sexy movie. ' (now, i am certain that you are all just shocked, shocked, shocked that i have some porn.) just grab one w / a white male and asian f. the gal is often fascinated. keep in mind however that i do not know laws about carrying porn in us airports. tsa are thugs, criminals who have yet to capture even one terrorist, and never will. they harass the good, honest, americans over a pirate madonna song, carrying vit c, porn, cipro, any prescript medication for personal use bought abroad for a tenth of us prices, etc and if caught you may get detained for few hours and put on a list which will haunt you all your life.

telephone bar: never made it. if anyone makes it there, tell the owner that his fb map sucks.

now back leading the 'respectable life', whatever that is. thinking summer a manila / cebu or ac, or bali. uncertain. will make it back to pattaya.



--popper

[QUOTE=Popper1; 1410494]. Play with their hair.

Biggest lie told the girls. 'Don't worry, I won't cum in your mouth. '

I believe you must be very proud of your lies to the girls. Just hope she doesn't pay back by having a buttplug in her hands and she promises "don't worry, I will not insert it in you, I don't even have KY with me"

Number of butt sex: three times. Last time I stuck it partly in her butt. Gal: 'How much you give me? ' Popper '20 baht' and shoved Little Popper in (see the third picture of gal in shower with a nice rack). Most gals reluctant to do butt sex.

Funniest moment. Saw this Muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this ST hotel with an obvious lady boy. It was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. Hummmm. Suspect many of those Xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. But who am I to judge.

Funniest bar girl line: Gal: 'You give me tip' Popper (while smiling) : 'I gave you three orgasms. That's your tip, and you owe me a tip for all your orgasms. ' Gal: 'I only had two orgasms. The last one was faked. '

-Popper[/QUOTE]A big "no-no" in Thai culture is play with Thai girl hairs or head (unless in bed) , so that shows your expertize.

Forcing a girl into butt sex will help in generating their bad attitude against rude farangs: the mongering community thanks.

How do you know an Arab is automatically an ultra-fundamentalist? Better you do not judge, so far all "your" attempts to bring your democracy elsewhere where conducted without caring at democracy. You mainly fed the extremists.

Despite your "I am Mister Know All", you have been cheated on the number of orgasms you brought her to. Maybe she has been generous and didn't tell the truth: the orgasms maybe were none, but she knows how to titillate the ego of farangs like you.

[QUOTE=Popper1;1410494].Methodology: Spot gal. Eye contact. Smile. Hold out hand slightly. Let her grab it. 'I love you' 'Will you marry me' 'You're the love of my life' 'You're the girl of my dreams' etc. Play with them. Hold their hand and playfully swing back and forth. Kiss their cheek. 'How much you want for short time. ' (Always let her give the first price. If she says 2000 baht, counter with 20 baht and let her walk away. If she says 700 or less, accept, if you want her. If she says 1000) 'I love you 700 baht. ' Play with them more. Swing their hands more. Play with their hair. Gaze deep in their eyes. 'You see that bar over there. I buy it for you. ' 'You see that car over there. I buy it for you mama and papa. ' 'You see the ocean, I buy for you. ' If still resistance to 700 baht 'I love you 800 baht. ' .[/QUOTE]Nice read, and a LOT of info. Seriously, often read through several pages of posts and their combined actual useful information won't add up to the amount in this one post. In quoting I cut most of it out except for 1 section, as in it I appreciated hearing experience on what kinda game people throw at the TG's. Some may argue it's not needed, but p4p or not, women are women and knowing how to talk to them can definitely help get a better price / attitude / overall experience for sure.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1410541]How do you know an Arab is automatically an ultra-fundamentalist? Better you do not judge, so far all "your" attempts to bring your democracy elsewhere where conducted without caring at democracy. You mainly fed the extremists.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Popper1;1410494]Funniest moment. Saw this Muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this ST hotel with an obvious lady boy. It was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. Hummmm. Suspect many of those Xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. But who am I to judge.[/QUOTE]FYI, Muslims don't wear turbines. Did he also have a beard? He probably was a Sikh.

Sir, you are an embarrasment to your culture. A "turban" (bulle or dastar) is ordinarily worn by Sik. One of the most kindest and accepting groups I have ever met. You need to do more reading and less of pulling comments out of you ass.

[QUOTE=Popper1; 1410494]OK, since you guys are the best friends I've ever had, will let you in a few of my secrets after spending over two months in Pattaya.

Funniest moment. Saw this Muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this ST hotel with an obvious lady boy. It was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. Hummmm. Suspect many of those Xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. But who am I to judge.

Funniest bar girl line: Gal: 'You give me tip' Popper (while smiling) : 'I gave you three orgasms. That's your tip, and you owe me a tip for all your orgasms. ' Gal: 'I only had two orgasms. The last one was faked. '

Lesson learned. Each trip I learn something different. This time, as soon as I walk in hotel room I say to gal 'You want to watch sexy movie. ' (Now, I am certain that you are all just shocked, shocked, shocked that I have some porn.) Just grab one w / a White male and Asian F. The gal is often fascinated. Keep in mind however that I do not know laws about carrying porn in US airports. TSA are thugs, criminals who have yet to capture even one terrorist, and never will. They harass the good, honest, Americans over a pirate Madonna song, carrying Vit C, porn, Cipro, any prescript medication for personal use bought abroad for a tenth of US prices, etc and if caught you may get detained for few hours and put on a list which will haunt you all your life.

Telephone Bar: Never made it. If anyone makes it there, tell the owner that his FB map sucks.

Now back leading the 'respectable life', whatever that is. Thinking summer a Manila / Cebu or AC, or Bali. Uncertain. Will make it back to Pattaya.

-Popper[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1410619]FYI, Muslims don't wear turbines.[/QUOTE]Amazing, those miniaturized wearable turbines. Still, they must put quite a strain on the neck.

Back to the topic of sex and Pattaya, a quick report on Beach Road. After a few terrible months, it seems to have somewhat recovered lately. No crackdown, good number of girls, and 500 baht note still works fine (some may insist on more, but it's easy to move on). Quality is not amazing, as always, but there are diamonds in the rough.

Contrary to common experience, had a part-timer who's passing by, not a hardened hooker (I think she's a freelancer in Bangkok, sampling Pattaya). We settled on "short time for 500, and then let's see how it goes"... her newness showing in the "so 500 is the price here, huh" comment (in Thai). She ended up staying until 10 am the next day, very GFE. Gave her 1400, bit much, but I like them this way. Now, how do I get her to stop calling?

I love the occasional "maybe she's not really a hooker (although I know she is)" experience. Used to be quite common in both Bangkok and Pattaya only a few short years back, but these days it's not so common. Willful suspension of disbelief is getting harder too.

Guys, popper gave great reports, great advice and great information to the rest of us who read here. Why do people have to make issues about his observations or comments. WTF. We are all supposedly here to give information and help each other get what we wanted by joining this forum not making snide comments about someone telling us what is important to know. Get a life.

[QUOTE=Popper1; 1410494]. Total number of total bar fines: Total Number: ZERO. None. Zippo. Zilch. Nix. Bar fines are for fools. Or are you proud to purchase snow in Antarctica. Not to mention the time wasted, overpriced drinks, LDs, and mindnumbingly idiotic conversations ('whad you name', 'where you flom', 'you pray connect 4', 'how wrong you lib in Pattaya', etc.).

Price for ST: 700 to 800, however last few nights after searching for over an hour I gave in and one time agreed to 900 and other 1000 baht. But those gals were super pretty, and damn I got lucky with them. Absolute performers and keepers. Popper[/QUOTE]Hey Popper! Nice report! That's quite an achievement not having to pay any bar fines, which "are for fools" in your opinion. And I'm happy for you that you believe your conquests were "super pretty," but if your idea of super pretty is the type of girl in your photos, I don't think that many mongers here, especially fools like me, will agree, although sometimes on rare occasions a pretty young gem might be found on Beach Road. It is possible.

Sure you can get those types of street hookers all over Pattaya any time you like day or night for 500 baht ST or even less, but if you want anything approaching quality in the looks department, I. E. A really pretty girl, you just might have to pay a lot more than 500 and perhaps a bar fine from time to time, at least once to get to know the girl and get her phone number for future dates sans bar fine. Or you might find a really pretty girl on the street to play your game with, (I think your little game is a good idea, BTW) but believe me, she's going to want more than 500-800 baht.

Many times I get pretty girls in go-go bars to give me their cell numbers and agree to meet me before work which avoids bar fines, but I still have to pay them at least 1000 baht for short time, often more, but it's worth it.

Looks like Popper1, is all mixed up? Another redneck mentality calling others fools about not paying barfines and then clearly omitting he paid a Barfine and 900 at that! Can't tell a Muslim from a Sik, and most likely will visit the Phil and think he is in Thailand? One wonders from his reports what is true and what isn't?

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1410619]FYI, Muslims don't wear turbines.[/QUOTE]Popper probably did get mixed up there, but I have to be picky for a moment.

Some Muslims do wear a turban, albeit in various names / forms.

Granted, more of a Central Asia thing (Afghanistan, etc).

But on the Arabian Peninsula the Yemenis and Omanis have their own form and also clerics in Iran.

Anyway, back to to the Pussy!

[QUOTE=HenryV;1410653]Sir, you are an embarrasment to your culture. A "turban" (bulle or dastar) is ordinarily worn by Sik. One of the most kindest and accepting groups I have ever met. You need to do more reading and less of pulling comments out of you ass.[/QUOTE]Well, some Shia muslims, affiliated with religious orders, wear turbans. So do many of the Pashtuns in the tribal areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan. But, I agree, one would not expect to meet any of those in downtown Pattaya. 555!

I understand that some posters are riled by popper's condescending style, but I think you have misunderstood his mongering tactic. It's not about picking beach road girls (which could be done for 500B per pop) , but about picking 700B girls off the street. It looks to me like the girls he picks up a bar workers, who'd normally be for sale for 500B ST on a slow day. The barfine he saves is then shared with the girl in the form of a slight premium on her fee.

Will be visiting Pattaya in early June for first time since June 2009, and this time I am not stopping in Bangkok first. I am staying in Walking Street area, but I need to buy a prepaid sim card for my cell phone. I believe I used 1-2-call AIS last time in Pattaya. Is their service ok in Pattaya and Bangkok now for calls and text? If so, where is the best place near the baht bus line to buy a ppd 1-2-call sim?

I will be taveling very light coming to Thailand, so also wondering where to pick up decent shorts and golf shirts. I seem to remember lots of open market shops between 2nd and third streets around the soi 6 to soi 8 area that were ok for shopping, but I'd like to monger and shop at the same time. Any recommendations?

Cheers!