Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Aureliano16;2745156]I was on the south recently on a Friday night, in a date with a seeking girl. I wanted to go dancing and we went to a salsa club at 11 PM but it was totally empty. It was dissapointing. So we went out and saw a night club similar to those in SF and it had many working girls dancing with customers. Which seemed really fun, with a great vibe. I asked my date if she was ok going there and she said sure. Let's go inside!

The place name is Azafatas VIP and is located exactly here: [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/K2iXUcb6sQ3dwddt9[/URL].

My seeking date turned out to be a webcammer girl in the past. So she was not shy at all. She was very happy dancing together with the working girls and customers. Many men thought she worked there and kept asking for her rate. Everybody thought we were a couple.

Lap dance is 40.000. Sex for 15-20 minutes is 90.000.

There was one 22 yo, 170 cm tall, nice ass and natural tits venezuelan hottie who kept looking at us. I approached her and told her to come over and dance with us and she said she didn't want to because I was together with another girl. I told her she was not my girlfriend. She came when I bought her a Smirnoff beer (20.000). I also hired her for a lap dance. And in the end, fucked her. The rooms are very crappy I think SF rooms are a bit better.

After I fucked her I wanted to leave, it was already 3 AM but my seeking date didn't want to leave yet. So she called another working girl to come dance with me to keep me distracted. This was another level dance. And I ended up french kissing and tits / ass grabbing her while dancing and kissing. It worked well to keep me distracted to be honest.

We ended up staying until 6 AM when the place closed. It was great to see all the working girls in their regular clothes getting out to catch a bus to go home. I kissed goodbye to Jhoselyne, my venezuelan girl in her normal clothes and went home to sleep with the seeking girl.

Overall a great experience. In terms of quality of the girls and the rooms though, I think SF is a bit better. I only saw 2 working girls I'd pay to fuck. The club itself was much better than those in SF. And there were many more clubs in the same street, similar to SF too.[/QUOTE]That is a rather dangerous area to which many locals don't dear going. There have been plenty of reports in local news and local forums of people being drugged and robbed in those clubs. MO is similar: something is put on your drink that reduces your ability to say no. Is a tea or powder made with a local plant called borrachero (borracho=drunk) and the active ingredient is called escopolamina. Then anything can happen. There have been cases of people robbed of everything and left on the street or people taking on a trip to the ATM's or even a beating for not having much to be stolen from. Murders in the area are not uncommon.

Advice is: do not go alone, do not leave your drink unattended, do not bring expensive looking stuff.

You've clearly not thought about this or done any planning which is another reason why it will ultimately fail.

You mentioned previously that you want high end people (IE professionals with large disposable incomes) to frequent this "idea" but again how are you going to reach these people? Are you going round to their business and dropping of a card lmao? Are you sending them an email which will ultimately go to spam with your contact info? How actually are you going to come across these high end people without putting yourself in massive legal jeopardy? Are you buying their flight and getting their hotels? Are you expecting these people to just hand a complete stranger $$$ to arrange this? Do you regularly just hand over money to someone lmfao? Or wait. Did you plan to meet them to break the ice so they know you're a real person and you show up and get busted? When they're in Colombia are you meeting them there? So you're paying for your own flight down there too or are you charging these high income customers the cost of their flight and your flight? Or are you hiring someone to pick them up despite every common sense spidey alarm bell that goes off with every traveler when visiting Latin America of being told not to just go with a random guy that says I'm here to pick you up to take you to some girls. What if your "guy" doesn't show up to pick this customer up what are you going to do?? What happens when the flight gets delayed or cancelled? Who does the customer call?

What happens if you charge him all this money to arrange all that and he pays with a CC then to screw you over for doing something like this he disputes it for sex tourism and the CC company has your address and informs authorities? If he's down in Colombia and decides he doesn't like the trip and wants to cancel what you going to do? How much are you charging to even make this profitable? What's the benefit to someone just coming on here and buying airfare and hotel himself privately and anonymously to go on a sex trip that let's face it if it came out that your hypothetical dentist or doctor gets caught going to Colombia and paying your "tour company" his career is ruined.

All things to think about but Again, really dumb idea and it's clear you haven't put much thought into this or research and instead are hoping that others will do this for you. And kinda not wanting to be a jerk but it's clear you've not done much research of most things as you're on the Bogota forum asking how much girls are in Montreal when you only literally have to look at the 1st page of the Montreal forum here and you'll find loads of info. It's cool to ask questions but seriously take a bit of time to see if you can find an answer before asking dumb shit. I don't know why but that really pisses me off.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2745553]You are right, but to compline with the law. It's just a technical issue. 1) Tours to Bogota is one business. = security + woodman's excursions to SF, etc (but on high level scale). 2) The girls is another business. Example: the girls can be independent sellers on a website (as they work in SF or casas (no pimping).

Please comment, Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RyckII;2745813]That is a rather dangerous area to which many locals don't dear going. There have been plenty of reports in local news and local forums of people being drugged and robbed in those clubs. MO is similar: something is put on your drink that reduces your ability to say no. Is a tea or powder made with a local plant called borrachero (borracho=drunk) and the active ingredient is called escopolamina. Then anything can happen. There have been cases of people robbed of everything and left on the street or people taking on a trip to the ATM's or even a beating for not having much to be stolen from. Murders in the area are not uncommon.

Advice is: do not go alone, do not leave your drink unattended, do not bring expensive looking stuff.[/QUOTE]Most things I have ever heard about that place is negative from the druggings / robberies to the extortive touts-- I have never had any desire to go.

One reason probably is there is much less police presence than the downtown area.

Santa Fe has the same if not better girls.

And to the Dickhead who said grow a pair-- You Go-- Have Fun!!

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2745814]You've clearly not thought about this or done any planning which is another reason why it will ultimately fail.

You mentioned previously that you want high end people (IE professionals with large disposable incomes) to frequent this "idea" but again how are you going to reach these people? Are you going round to their business and dropping of a card lmao? Are you sending them an email which will ultimately go to spam with your contact info? How actually are you going to come across these high end people without putting yourself in massive legal jeopardy? Are you buying their flight and getting their hotels? Are you expecting these people to just hand a complete stranger $$$ to arrange this? Do you regularly just hand over money to someone lmfao? Or wait. Did you plan to meet them to break the ice so they know you're a real person and you show up and get busted? When they're in Colombia are you meeting them there? So you're paying for your own flight down there too or are you charging these high income customers the cost of their flight and your flight? Or are you hiring someone to pick them up despite every common sense spidey alarm bell that goes off with every traveler when visiting Latin America of being told not to just go with a random guy that says I'm here to pick you up to take you to some girls. What if your "guy" doesn't show up to pick this customer up what are you going to do?? What happens when the flight gets delayed or cancelled? Who does the customer call?

What happens if you charge him all this money to arrange all that and he pays with a CC then to screw you over for doing something like this he disputes it for sex tourism and the CC company has your address and informs authorities? If he's down in Colombia and decides he doesn't like the trip and wants to cancel what you going to do? How much are you charging to even make this profitable? What's the benefit to someone just coming on here and buying airfare and hotel himself privately and anonymously to go on a sex trip that let's face it if it came out that your hypothetical dentist or doctor gets caught going to Colombia and paying your "tour company" his career is ruined.

All things to think about but Again, really dumb idea and it's clear you haven't put much thought into this or research and instead are hoping that others will do this for you. And kinda not wanting to be a jerk but it's clear you've not done much research of most things as you're on the Bogota forum asking how much girls are in Montreal when you only literally have to look at the 1st page of the Montreal forum here and you'll find loads of info. It's cool to ask questions but seriously take a bit of time to see if you can find an answer before asking dumb shit. I don't know why but that really pisses me off.[/QUOTE]You are right. And I appreciate your post and your time. It's very helpful. I need your feedback. I need to know how Americans think because I am not one of them. Now I see that. Thanks to everyone who comment my post.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2745925]You are right. And I appreciate your post and your time. It's very helpful. I need your feedback. I need to know how Americans think because I am not one of them. Now I see that. Thanks to everyone who comment my post.[/QUOTE]Dude, it's not Americans you need to worry about. Every single post you make is like a 12 year old writing, which is why people prob shouldn't take you seriously. You just wrote a bunch of blogs about opening a biz in Colombia and now you're claiming you wanted to know how Americans think? You meant Colombians. And how Colombians think? Americans aren't the ones who's going to set you up, rob you or lock you up in Colombia LOL. Trolling or what?

See when people are full of crap they always get caught. There's a saying also that says when you lie you have to have a good memory, otherwise you soon slip up.

Busted! LMAOOOOOO.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2744722]Hi everyone,

I wonder, why people don't do something like " Bachelor trip" business"?

Considering:

1) The colombian prices for sex.

2) Girls attitude, low feminism level, age, etc. For a reasonable price you can see as many girls as you want.

3) I lived in Moscow, now in Toronto and well traveled. In my opinion, it's very hard to find colombian level of service in North America. If you need a quality girl+ age, her attitude, etc.

4) North America sites and casas: mostly high volume aged girls who look for local pappies with low expectations or the price is very high.

5) and by sex business I mean. , There are many professionals and self employed or business owners who are tiered to see their low quality feminist wives.

6) As we understand, some reach people can get more life / girl / sex experience in Santa Fe or around the city (3-5 days) than in their entire life. As soon as they get that eye opening experience some of them could become = long term clients.

7) Toronto, New York are long trips 6 hrs + trip to airport. 1000 $+ round trip, etc. But there is Miami, and south US cities. It's close and cheap flights. They have the same problems with good girls as everywhere in North America.

8) The trip could be organized as any business trip. For example; Seminar for dentist, realtors, etc + sex or tourist program. The clients can motivate their trip (family) and + its business expenses.

What is your opinion? Please text me to my PM.

And what do you think about locals and local authorities considering this type of business.

Please comment or send me your opinion on the mater.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Google that in Medellin. You will find at least a dozen companies. The tourists there have much more $ to spend then guys on ISG would. However NO ONE will mention sex tours. Woodman is so low profile he doesn't seem to attract any attention. Which IMHO means the Colombian morality police do not care about ISG in Bogota. Tours is a totally different subject. Licensed or freelance tour guides HATE having guys ask about sex tours in BOG. LOL.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2746159]Google that in Medellin. You will find at least a dozen companies. The tourists there have much more $ to spend then guys on ISG would. However NO ONE will mention sex tours. Woodman is so low profile he doesn't seem to attract any attention. Which IMHO means the Colombian morality police do not care about ISG in Bogota. Tours is a totally different subject. Licensed or freelance tour guides HATE having guys ask about sex tours in BOG. LOL.[/QUOTE]Almost forgot about Woodman on this one, nah he's fine in fact his type of tour isn't really consider a biz, it's like a friend w his hobby showing you around. No one would get in trouble for that, sex tour or not LOL this is nothing what he does.

Colombia and those types of countries only care when you open a brothel, posting and promoting on social media anything related to exploiting girls or sneaky pimping or tarnishing their country's name as a sex destination.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2746159]Google that in Medellin. You will find at least a dozen companies. The tourists there have much more $ to spend then guys on ISG would. However NO ONE will mention sex tours. Woodman is so low profile he doesn't seem to attract any attention. Which IMHO means the Colombian morality police do not care about ISG in Bogota. Tours is a totally different subject. Licensed or freelance tour guides HATE having guys ask about sex tours in BOG. LOL.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I have a Good knowledge of the downtown area and sometimes we will walk through the Santa Fe area as a point of interest.

-- I also do tours of the federal and colonial areas. There are great places to find bargains on collectibles and leather goods. I Do Not promote prostitution.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2745995]Dude, it's not Americans you need to worry about. Every single post you make is like a 12 year old writing, which is why people prob shouldn't take you seriously. You just wrote a bunch of blogs about opening a biz in Colombia and now you're claiming you wanted to know how Americans think? You meant Colombians. And how Colombians think? Americans aren't the ones who's going to set you up, rob you or lock you up in Colombia LOL. Trolling or what?

See when people are full of crap they always get caught. There's a saying also that says when you lie you have to have a good memory, otherwise you soon slip up.

Busted! LMAOOOOOO.[/QUOTE]Good point, but please explain "How I can benefit from my "LIES"? I wish but have no idea. Please your input, I hope it will increase my income. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2746302]Good point, but please explain "How I can benefit from my "LIES"? I wish but have no idea. Please your input, I hope it will increase my income. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
The sex tours he seems to want start would be considered Pimping in Colombia and although Prostitution is legal, Pimping is not! It's a fine line you don't want to cross in Colombia and most Latin American countries for that matter. You don't want to be the one they grab and want to make an example of.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2746240]Just to clarify, I have a Good knowledge of the downtown area and sometimes we will walk through the Santa Fe area as a point of interest.

-- I also do tours of the federal and colonial areas. There are great places to find bargains on collectibles and leather goods. I Do Not promote prostitution.[/QUOTE]And knowledge of best coffee! Still the best I have had in Bogota.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2744728]"I know I'll go there once in my life" usually ends up being "I wish I had gone. ".


2. Atlanta to Bogota on Delta is a great flight. If I lived in Atlanta I'd be making the trip monthly, even though I prefer Medellin. Flights to Medellin are cheap, frequent and less than 1 hour. (More like a 3 hour flight, do not use Avianca!)

3. There are multiple clubs in the north of Bogota. They are expensive, especially for takeout, but they should meet your needs, if you're ready to spend $200-$300.

t.[/QUOTE]Are these North clubs on World T. Map? Because every time I looked. All I found was sub par talent. On SA I found very good looking / friendly girls for 600 cop after a lot of conversations. But there is nothing like La Isla in Bogota? Correct me if I am wrong. The escort sites do have hot girls but again it's a lot of work weeding thru the scams.

So I've seen in a few street concealed vids on YouTube the midget and I'm sure some ISG'er must've sessioned with her. Part of me is curious and part of me is thinking no way. But does anyone have any reports?

Happened to me the second time I went. The mistake I made was going alone.

[QUOTE=RyckII;2745813]That is a rather dangerous area to which many locals don't dear going. There have been plenty of reports in local news and local forums of people being drugged and robbed in those clubs. MO is similar: something is put on your drink that reduces your ability to say no. Is a tea or powder made with a local plant called borrachero (borracho=drunk) and the active ingredient is called escopolamina. Then anything can happen. There have been cases of people robbed of everything and left on the street or people taking on a trip to the ATM's or even a beating for not having much to be stolen from. Murders in the area are not uncommon.

Advice is: do not go alone, do not leave your drink unattended, do not bring expensive looking stuff.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2746990]So I've seen in a few street concealed vids on YouTube the midget and I'm sure some ISG'er must've sessioned with her. Part of me is curious and part of me is thinking no way. But does anyone have any reports?[/QUOTE]I have seen 2-3+ midgets-- I have not sessioned with any-- Also there is a on legged girl in another stroll on Calle 18 I have seen.

Good Luck with your Midget Quest.