Jakarta

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2147780]I have always said the service at Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel sucks. Where did I say it was good? **snip**
Malioboro has better service, but is more expensive. If you want really good service, free lancers around town in places like BATS or CJs or even Tinder are better options.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ABCinLA;2148162]General to a great degree especially for the last few trips the service I've had at both has gotten better and better. At Maliboro I generally get girls from the spa or at the cheaper price small bar with a live band across the stairways. I must say girl service at Maliboro overall from my experience is a cut below. Now when I go to Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel I use my trusty Google Translate to let them know what I expect and I won't take them if their not agreeable. I generally will be frisky / groping them a bit to get a handle on their accomodative nature plus whether or not the clothing is hiding something I might not like. This seems to work for me and they don't seem to mind. I find Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel girls pretty honest so they won't agreed to something they won't do (unlike the prior KTV girls from Chong Ping who will say anything). Of course every once in awhile I'm seduced by a huge rack leading me to take a leap of faith. Lastly, I don't need or care for deep french kissing but I understand others might.[/QUOTE]I have agree with Smoothy here. I got one of the most mechanical and rushed service in my mongering career in Classic. And a really great service at Malioboro from the bar the with live band. For newbies I would recommend: "Always bet on Malio. " Classic would cost 330 k without tips and Maliboro bar would cost 620 k (420 k + 200 k tip). 290 k more expensive compared to Classic but worth the decent service I guess.

I have been stopped road check about 5-6 times in Jakarta. My first time I had a phone passport photo and Polis refuse and would bring me to station if no pay money. After I carry my passport or APEC business card and they never ask money or take me in. One time I was accompany two Qatari colleagues who not carry passport for business dinner and the Police bring them to station for a few hours before release. I am not sure if they paid money for release or no. My Office had always advise me to carry proper ID in Jakarta as safety especially around holidays and Ramadan, but people here can choose up to them, but if they get caught they will face some issues.

I do not use this website much because I am busy working in Jakarta or back home I don't care. But even before I can see the environment is toxic, this website not for friendly exchange information, it is a few bullys who control everything and judge everyone, and care more about being right than helping people. I just try add my simple advice and I don't know why you need to research my history or discredit people. It is very disfunctional and I have better thing to do than that. Cheers.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2149021] Classic would cost 330 k without tips and Maliboro bar would cost 620 k (420 k + 200 k tip). 290 k more expensive compared to Classic but worth the decent service I guess.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the total newbie question but I thought Malioboro girls were much more than "620 k (420 k + 200 k tip)". I definitely didn't get quoted that amount albeit my girl was from Malio Club. Will write more when I get some time to do a full FR. small correction, Classic is now 365k.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2148713]We are living in our cocoon in Jakarta so we don't realise how quickly the rest of the country is changing, but go out to Central and West Java and look at the girls and women dressed from top to toe in very conservative Islamic dress in a way that was simply unimaginable 20 years ago but which is now taken for granted. Try to buy a beer in these places where once it was freely available in corner shops and supermarkets.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. I was living in Indonesia up until about 1 year ago, working on a project about 3 hours from Bandung. Every woman in the village wore conservative clothes. We very rarely saw anyone in anything but a Hijib. Even in Bandung you can't buy alcohol at supermarkets or 7-eleven's, you have to go to beer outlets like the ones around Jalan Braga. We didn't even take alcohol back to our camp as we thought the locals may get upset when they saw the empty bottles and cans. Different world to Jakarta.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2149151]Sorry for the total newbie question but I thought Malioboro girls were much more than "620 k (420 k + 200 k tip)". I definitely didn't get quoted that amount albeit my girl was from Malio Club. Will write more when I get some time to do a full FR. small correction, Classic is now 365k.[/QUOTE]If you go up to the 2nd floor (the floor with the big room where the girls sit). Enter that big room, then Exit that room using the far right doors. Walk straight across to the little room where there is live music. (the room to the right of the elevators) The girls in that room are 425 k. And I think they are just as good as the girls in the big room.

Is that the room named M Club or M Bar or something like that? That's the room where I saw the girls I preferred in Malio Hotel. Problem was my buddy doesn't prefer the younger petite ones and didn't want to stay in the tiny bar.

Thanks Smoothy. That's where I head back to first next time in Malio Hotel.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2149265]If you go up to the 2nd floor (the floor with the big room where the girls sit). Enter that big room, then Exit that room using the far right doors. Walk straight across to the little room where there is live music. (the room to the right of the elevators) The girls in that room are 425 k. And I think they are just as good as the girls in the big room.[/QUOTE]As they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I found the girls in the big room more attractive for my taste than the ones in the little room. The ones in the big room were taller for one. However, if my memory serves me right I got better service from the girls in the little room.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2149291]As they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I found the girls in the big room more attractive for my taste than the ones in the little room. The ones in the big room were taller for one. However, if my memory serves me right I got better service from the girls in the little room.[/QUOTE]They are taller and whiter in the big room. They throw the darker skinned shorter ones in the small room. (for the most part) But there are some gems in that small room. The problem is that the gems are normally busy as hell, so getting a session with the top girls in the small room is hit or miss. Many times they have bookings with 3 guys already waiting in line for them. I also have found that the girls in the small room give better service. The girls in the big room can be prima donnas (especially if the locals are going crazy over them since they are tall with white skin).

What is the best time to get there, Smoothy? I don't care about skin color, only tit size, small frame.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2149296]The problem is that the gems are normally busy as hell, The girls in the big room can be prima donnas (especially if the locals are going crazy over them since they are tall with white skin).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2149214]Completely agree. I was living in Indonesia up until about 1 year ago, working on a project about 3 hours from Bandung. Every woman in the village wore conservative clothes. We very rarely saw anyone in anything but a Hijib. Even in Bandung you can't buy alcohol at supermarkets or 7-eleven's, you have to go to beer outlets like the ones around Jalan Braga. We didn't even take alcohol back to our camp as we thought the locals may get upset when they saw the empty bottles and cans. Different world to Jakarta.[/QUOTE]I can't comment specifically on Bandung, but I can say one thing for sure about West Java girls. It doesn't matter what they are told to wear on their heads or how to behave in those kampoengs. Once they have worked out how to unzip a man's flies they jump on a bus to Jakarta or another big city.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1938013]I think Auustralia is the only country since last year that has to have a visa. There is no love lost between the two countries and maybe because the Australians are loud also! Haha.[/QUOTE]30 day free on arrival.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2149151]Sorry for the total newbie question but I thought Malioboro girls were much more than "620 k (420 k + 200 k tip)". I definitely didn't get quoted that amount albeit my girl was from Malio Club. Will write more when I get some time to do a full FR. small correction, Classic is now 365k.[/QUOTE]I guess in Malio club you would have been quoted above 3 million IDR for the dancers and 1.2 million for the regular girls. 620 k is for the girls from Malio bar. Quoting Dirk67 for the directions on how to reach Malio bar.

[QUOTE]From the main entrance (by the driveway, south side) if you press 2 on the elevator, you end up at Malio bar and lounge. The elevators open and there's the charge counter. The left side is the live music area that is smaller and has tables of girls sitting around and you can order food and drink. I only noticed a few other customers there and about 15 girls looking bored. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1938013]I think Auustralia is the only country since last year that has to have a visa. There is no love lost between the two countries and maybe because the Australians are loud also! Haha.[/QUOTE]As an Aussie (and I speak here only for myself but am sure many will agree) in 2002 88 Australians were killed in a Bali nightclub. This will never be forgotten. Yes I know Terrorism can happen anywhere, even in Australia.

In the Indonesian press the bombers were called heroes. "On 25 October 2008, Communications and Information Minister asked the Indonesian media to stop calling the three "heroes". ".

There have been other loss of life too in 2005.

We, as Aussies, will be loud and stand up and be counted against this form of barbaric ideological bullshit that plagues our world.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2149265]If you go up to the 2nd floor (the floor with the big room where the girls sit). Enter that big room, then Exit that room using the far right doors. Walk straight across to the little room where there is live music. (the room to the right of the elevators) The girls in that room are 425 k. And I think they are just as good as the girls in the big room.[/QUOTE]Having RTFF, an booked into Harris Vertu as per recommendation, what is smoothy's top 5 as of 2018? Even better if it is not too far from Harris hotel. I have been to almost everywhere else in S E Asia but never Indonesia. I am on my way in May.

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;2149492]Having RTFF, an booked into Harris Vertu as per recommendation, what is smoothy's top 5 as of 2018? Even better if it is not too far from Harris hotel. I have been to almost everywhere else in S E Asia but never Indonesia. I am on my way in May.[/QUOTE]Note that Ramadan starts on May 15 this year and last for a month. If you are traveling to Jakarta in May during that period, your selections will be very limited and night life will be duller than usual, and some may not even be opened.