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[QUOTE=Duniawala]Last time I was there, about eight months ago, the ST wa 1200-1500 and LT was 2000-2500B (i.e. LT was 24 hrs long). Have the rates really gone up that much or are the newbies paying too much?[/QUOTE]
Since when was long time 24 hours ????????????????
I am not saying it is impossible however don't take it for granted that the girl will stay for 24 hours.
Many "Nana" girls expect to leave at 7am so it is a good idea to check first, never assume anything.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Since when was long time 24 hours ????????????????
I am not saying it is impossible however don't take it for granted that the girl will stay for 24 hours.
Many "Nana" girls expect to leave at 7am so it is a good idea to check first, never assume anything.[/QUOTE]
For me it is either an ST or if I like someone and get along well then I like to keep her for a few days. So far I have given a min. of 2K and max of 2.5 K. Of course all incidentals are taken care of like food, beer and fucking.:)
BTW, AT2 I did get those rates (1500LT) from a Soi 33 bar. In fact 2 of them. I'm not being a cheap charlie, but I negotiated the rates in all fairness beforehand. But I treated them to good dinner and wines though.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]For me it is either an ST or if I like someone and get along well then I like to keep her for a few days. So far I have given a min. of 2K and max of 2.5 K. Of course all incidentals are taken care of like food, beer and fucking.:)
BTW, AT2 I did get those rates (1500LT) from a Soi 33 bar. In fact 2 of them. I'm not being a cheap charlie, but I negotiated the rates in all fairness beforehand. But I treated them to good dinner and wines though.[/QUOTE]
Duni,
Good to hear that the Soi 33 girls will go down to 1,500LT and no, I would never consider you a cheap charlie. The Barfines on that Soi still bother me. Out of line with the general quality of the girls, since they are not in general 2 to 3 times more attractive. An occasional stunner yes, but in general no.
If you are staying at Livingstones, I can understand that it would be convenient.
AT2
Thanks Meal Soy, Tansak, Will, Etoin, Mick and AT2, great advice there. Good to know the rates a bit more.
Re: what I'm looking for - I tend to go for at least 8+, which means white skinned, model quality, stunning face. Most girls therefore are already ruled out, in fact walking down Soi Cowboy or nana I rarely see agirl I would pay, but there is certainly a supply in the right place. The girl I had yesterday on Soi Cowboy even according to my pal was easily the hottest girl on the entire street, but I think I definitely was overpaying at 2000 for ST. But she was definitely a hottie, a face of an angel 9 for an asian chick and a tight young bod. It was a pretty fast job though.
Today, we headed over to PatPong, which I know is not the best place to be. But we went there initally to do real shopping but what a rip off place. We did see a dance bar I think called King's something - where there were some absolutely stunning girls... I would say at least 3-4 8+s. Most almost looked Japanaese- very white skins, tall, slim etc. I had 2 sit with me for a very short while and wasted a few hundred on drinks, didn't go further, they were really asking for too much, between 2500-3000 for a couple of hours + BF of 500. I was very tempted because of the quality, but my gut just held back. I was very tempted by a couple - I think number 142 and another chick who claimed to be half french, gorgeous face IMO but maybe it's a personal taste. There are too many farangs there so I don't think they were really open for negotiation. Plus already went once today :)
I really want to get the high end girls which based on advice I assume is tougher somewhere like beer garden and Nana, and more supply somewhere like Soi 33? I would like them to come back to the hotel for say 4 hours, so it's pretty much MT, with just a couple of pops. I did manage to arrange one session with a massage girl I had on Soi 22 today for 900 all in who said she can come for 2000 for a few hours, with multiple pops, but since going to Patpong which I know lots of people don't recommend and prices are waaay inflated. I would like to get the quality of girls like those at this King's something place we were at, if possible, for 1500 or less. :)
The concierge at our hotel suggested a couple of places:
Ratchada
Kao San
Pasa (?)
Are any of these good? I am also curious if there are any actual proper massage places that can give a good strong hard massage for a good price.
Thanks again guys, really appreciate it and will post up my findings later on :)
[QUOTE=Superman79]Anyone know where in Bangkok (preferably near Nana) where I can buy a power adapter/converter to convert from bkk wattage to US wattage? Last time in LOS I had to rough it and couldn't shave or cut my hair for 2 weeks!!!! PLEASE HELP!!!
Thanks,
Superman[/QUOTE]
First it is voltage not wattage. Wattage is a messure of power not voltage. Ie something that is 120 watts, is 120 watts regadless of weather it is 120volts or 240volts. The difference being 120watts at 120 volts is 1amp, 120 watts at 240volts is 0.5amps.
Anyway electronics lesson aside what you require is a step down transformer, I would go to any of the IT malls and have a look, but not sure of your chances though it wouldn't be a common type thing.
Now are you sure your shaver doesn't have a voltage switch. Most you buy in this day and age are either auto sensing or have a change switch.
Superman79,
You got to be kidding me! Your cutting your own hair and shaving too! Go to August Salon on Sukhumvit across from the Landmark Hotel. I get my groove everytime I'm in Bangkok at August, good haircut, I even get a shave even though I hardly have facial hair just to get close to the ladies breast. The last time I was there they seem all to have nice legs and big boobs.
For the price better than a converter!
LBM
[QUOTE=Superman79]Anyone know where in Bangkok (preferably near Nana) where I can buy a power adapter/converter to convert from bkk wattage to US wattage? Last time in LOS I had to rough it and couldn't shave or cut my hair for 2 weeks!!!! PLEASE HELP!!![/QUOTE]
A converter, a good one, costs more then a hair clipper. Go to a store in BKK and buy a local voltage clipper is my recommendation. If you are desperate to get one a converter google it on line as I do not remember seeing any in Pantip or MBK upstairs or such. You can also ebay it. But a good one, a portable one, will cost you more then a clipper will, I have two, one corded and one plug in. I think each was 30 USD and I got out of China. You can find clippers at MBK or Pantip for little money. Take the bts from nana to national stadium and look upstairs in MBK.
And I agree with JC373... every shaver I've seen works in either voltage. But no shaver ever cuts close enough and i still end up using a blade in BKK.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Superman79,
You got to be kidding me! Your cutting your own hair and shaving too! Go to August Salon on Sukhumvit across from the Landmark Hotel. I get my groove everytime I'm in Bangkok at August, good haircut, I even get a shave even though I hardly have facial hair just to get close to the ladies breast. The last time I was there they seem all to have nice legs and big boobs.
For the price better than a converter!
LBM[/QUOTE]Now THAT is an excellent recommendation!!
What you have to remember is that, although you would not think so, these girls have standards too. They will fuck nearly any man for money, some will be "allowed" to bargain cheaper (they like to be seen with nice looking guys), some will have to pay the full rate with no discount.
How long they stay with you will depend on whether they like you, how much your paying etc.
They do get embarassed walking around with Grandpa or Frankenstein on their arm, now if Grandpa/Frankenstein is paying big bucks, they will take it on the chin, but if Grandpa/Frankenstein is not paying big bucks they will not embarress themselves and will leave early in the morning.
Thai girls deem P4P as a job, they have to do it. There is no concern about what you look like (although they do prefer "handsome man")
Thai girls deem being seen around town with a farang a different proposal, and only if they like you, think you look ok, or know you are paying above average money will they do that, and not be departing and getting home a. S. A. P. For a good mornings sleep.
This is why its very important if you're not a great looking guy, to discuss what you are paying for, what time she will leave etc. So there is no misunderstanding. I find lots of guys are honestly too shy to talk about price, time etc. This is crazy, but its where many misunderstandings come from.
Open you mouth, discuss price, discuss time, discuss what she will do. Make a decision. And you'll not be disappointed.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]For me it is either an ST or if I like someone and get along well then I like to keep her for a few days. So far I have given a min. of 2K and max of 2.5 K. Of course all incidentals are taken care of like food, beer and fucking.:)
BTW, AT2 I did get those rates (1500LT) from a Soi 33 bar. In fact 2 of them. I'm not being a cheap charlie, but I negotiated the rates in all fairness beforehand. But I treated them to good dinner and wines though.[/QUOTE]
Its hard to find any appliances these days that weren't made in China or SEAsia, and most work fine with 120 or 240v. China uses US-style plugs, and a lot of SEAsia places are wired with outlets that will accept multiple plug styles. I carry a plug adaptor set but would never consider carrying a transformer.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]Its hard to find any appliances these days that weren't made in China or SEAsia, and most work fine with 120 or 240v. China uses US-style plugs, and a lot of SEAsia places are wired with outlets that will accept multiple plug styles. I carry a plug adaptor set but would never consider carrying a transformer.[/QUOTE]
I think the General thread is intended for non-mongering stuff.
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Re: what I'm looking for - I tend to go for at least 8+, which means white skinned, model quality, stunning face. Most girls therefore are already ruled out, in fact walking down Soi Cowboy or nana I rarely see agirl I would pay, but there is certainly a supply in the right place. The girl I had yesterday on Soi Cowboy even according to my pal was easily the hottest girl on the entire street, but I think I definitely was overpaying at 2000 for ST. But she was definitely a hottie, a face of an angel 9 for an asian chick and a tight young bod. It was a pretty fast job though.
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If you reckon you got the best girl in the street, then 2000 is not surprising, although you might have been able to negotiate less.
She is going to want a lot more than the average girl.
If you only got 15 mins, then O.K. it would be high.
I expect at least 1.5 Hrs for a ST.
If you come real quick, then you had better negotiate for 2 shots and a minimum time.
"Pasa?" that you mentioned could be "Plaza Entertainment" perhaps.
See Bangkok MPs thread.
Not sure why Khao San road was mentioned.
Its not usually discussed here as a good mongering place.
Since you are asking for pretty girls at bargain basement prices (1300-1500), I would suggest these soapies (not for a real massage): Bangkok Cozy, Nancy, Meree (they won't all be pretty but hopefully a few good lookers).
If willing to go to 2000+, try Long Beach or Copa Cabana, or maybe Nataree (some say they have pretty girls)
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=701191highlight=Soapy+Guide#post701191]Soapies Ref List & Guide[/url]
[QUOTE=Superman79]Anyone know where in Bangkok (preferably near Nana) where I can buy a power adapter/converter to convert from bkk wattage to US wattage? Last time in LOS I had to rough it and couldn't shave or cut my hair for 2 weeks!!!! PLEASE HELP!!!
Thanks,
Superman[/QUOTE]Really? That's so sad and pathetic. LOL.
I don't know about a converter, but I've found disposable razors and battery operated shavers in Seven Eleven stores on Soi 3 and 4 near NEP. The latter was only about $7. Aside from that there are tons of barber type services everywhere to get a shave or haircut for a lousy buck.
[QUOTE=Borat69]
I really want to get the high end girls which based on advice I assume is tougher somewhere like beer garden and Nana, and more supply somewhere like Soi 33? I would like them to come back to the hotel for say 4 hours, so it's pretty much MT, with just a couple of pops.
The concierge at our hotel suggested a couple of places:
[/QUOTE]
Borat,
For the Soapy Massage Parlors, check out Utopia, near the Huai Kwang MRT Station. You will need to take a cab from that station or you will not find it. They had some nice models when I was there in August. Fish Bowl to the left as you enter. Some girls lined up against the left wall and models on the 2nd floor in the bar area. I enjoyed the bar area, kicking back with a beer and checking out the model section. Be sure to check out Mick's Massage parlor posts in the Massage thread. He covers everything and don't forget some of these places have farang surcharges from 500B to 1,000B.
Mick's Utopia report:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=701173&highlight=utopia#post701173[/url]
Nataree, at Huai Kwang Station is very easy to find and has a good selection for between 2,000 baht to 3,300 baht. Smallish Fishbowl, with 15 or so "older" 30'ish girls in the fishbowl for 2,000 baht. Younger girls outside against the walls and in the small bar area. About 40 or more girls in all.
Mick's Nataree and Emmanuelle report:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=701177&highlight=nataree#post701177[/url]
There's an interesting Karaoke place, down the block past Emmanuelle, but just went in to take a quick look. Not sure what their system is, and most of the girls were average, but would be interested in any info someone else has of it. By the way, Emmanuelle is also worth a look, but was rather dead, when I visited back in August. Only about a dozen girls in the Fish Bowl. Gaudy "Vegas" type outside structure and a reasonable large setup.
For a Gentlemens Club, you can visit the Pent Executive for something different. It's not a Go-Go, where you barfine the girl. Nothing is guaranteed, so don't go there if you want a sure thing. You will spend about 2,000 baht, just for drinks. Why go? You meet the girls, collect some phone numbers, and arrange to meet them outside the club. Some of them are outstanding!
When you first go in, you will see a bar to the left and a stage to the right. There's a band playing all night long. Follow the bar on the left to the back, and there's another back bar area. You will pass a pool, which is used for parties. The back bar, has more girls mingling with the customers. Some of the girls there are hot! But be ready to pay, they are not cheap. Expect 2,000 baht or more for the evening and most likely that's short time, but there are exceptions. See Sasquatch stories ...
Pent 2 Part Story by Sasquatch73
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=618554&highlight=Pent#post618554[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=618555&highlight=Pent#post618555[/url]
The cards below have the address info if you are interested. Might help to have those cards handy for the taxi driver. Not for everyone, but just a suggestion.
AT2
[QUOTE=Borat69]
The concierge at our hotel suggested a couple of places:
Ratchada
Kao San
Pasa (?)
Are any of these good? I am also curious if there are any actual proper massage places that can give a good strong hard massage for a good price.
Thanks again guys, really appreciate it and will post up my findings later on :)[/QUOTE]
The Pasa could be Pasaya Party Massage. I have not tried them, but here's the rundown of what I have heard and read. It's run by the Lord Group (Long Beach, Copa-Cabana, Malibu, Victoria) and it's on Ratchadapisek near the Suthisan Station exit 4. I have seen the big Marilyn Monroe bill board fronting the place, above the entrance. Billed as an Eastern Spa, it looks like it's more an Oily than a Soapy. The menu reads like an oily.
I may need to add them to my list of places to visit this year.
AT2