Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2750190]Another thing people have written here about the safety of cabs, uber, didi whatever:

1) they are friggin' cheap, fast. good and safe.

Also, side note, I would love to have one of those little yellow taxis back here. I wish we could import them -- I love little cars.[/QUOTE]Absolute madman. I have never been so scared in my life than in those little yellow taxis. The drivers are absolute maniacs, one time I just closed my eyes, I couldn't take it. Even if they are perfect drivers, all it takes is one idiot texting on their phone; those doors are just glorified Reynolds wrap, and I will blow myself if those things have side airbags; if you get t-boned you dead 100% for sure. God forbid if that thing rolls over, the roof will probably fold over itself like a pretzel.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2750198]True, my first loop was Thursday or Friday before lunch, and it was overcast and sad like I wrote. I did a loop over there Sunday afternoon on my rental bike and it was a lot sunnier and almost pleasant. Indeed, there were some younger women; however, I stand by my previous rating on the women there: 1) mostly fat 2) horrible tattoos 3) garish, sleazy, ill fitting "sexy" outfits 4) cellulite 5) fat. Also, the whole scene of loose paving, torn up streets, decay, torn garbage bags, stray dogs rooting through the garbage. It's not Soi Cowboy or Patpong, for sure.[/QUOTE]It's not Soi Cowboy or Patpong, for sure.

Not that I like like either of those places, but a hilarious comparison nonetheless.

I would say its more akin to Angeles City or Tijuana.

Many mongering hubs are human septic tanks.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2750190]This is such BS. I'm an old, old white man and, after waiting a few minutes too many for a cab last night, I walked from La Candelaria (near the Botero Museum) to my Airbnb in Santa Fe, mostly along la septima around 9. Biggest dangers are stepping in dogshit or a missing manhole cover. I am an obvious old, white foreigner. Maybe I am naive, but I feel no danger. Saying that, for sure I wouldn't walk around the zona de tolerancia late at night, but it would be mostly from fear of twisting my ankle on a loose paving stone or stepping in dogshit.

Another thing people have written here about the safety of cabs, uber, didi whatever:

1) they are friggin' cheap, fast. good and safe. A couple of times I looked at the taximetro and it said something like 77, so I pulled out $80 k thinking 'oh well that's like $17 US or something, and the taxista (amazingly honest) would say (shocked), "No! What are you doing. It's seven, Seven! (i.e., $1.70 US) " -- meaning I stupidly (on more than one occasion) tried to pay the guy 10 X too much and the honest taxista, who could have easily taken the money and driven off, saved me from my own stupidity.

2) If you're riding by yourself, sit in front -- especially if you're a big black man, no one is going to mess with you. I periodically read threads here about don't take taxis, take uber or whatever, but I found the taxistas I met were all super polite and humble. Also, side note, I would love to have one of those little yellow taxis back here. I wish we could import them -- I love little cars.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the advice. The internet at large would have me believe that Colombia is as bad a dangerous place. I have been having a hard time understanding why local gangs and such would target gringos so hard. This would ultimately lower the people that visit. For a country with so many of its poor people relying on tourism that seems dumb. It make far more sense for them to be in charge of the brothels or charge them for protection and things like that. Anything besides systemically scaring off as many gringos as possible by robbing them.

In your advice do you think going to prepagos house is also relatively safe? It seems it may be fun to had on that front, but I've previously disregarded the idea due to the perceived risk factors.

Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me with the altitude. Headaches, etc. By the time I get to Santa fe, i feel like I have vertigo, lol. Car shaking and streets going up and down.

Any suggestions for a Airbnb or guest friendly hotel would be nice thanks.

[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;2750177]Thanks! Lots of good info there it seems.

I've used SA successfully in other locations. I find it (and other similar apps) to be fun, but a lot of work. Sometimes that pays off, but it's also frequently nice to just order delivery rather than sitting there wondering if the bread I baked is going to rise.

At the very least there seem to be a ton of options around the city, so that's exciting.[/QUOTE]I can't comment on quality, dependability or price, bit there are several escort agencies in Bogota. Just search "agencia prepago Bogota.

The reason it's not reported on much here is because there's a big price difference. You can do 5 or more girls in Santa Fe for the price of one from an escort service. La Celestina has been reviewed favorably a few times.

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2750421]Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me .[/QUOTE]You know there are different parts of Chapinero right? For a 30 minute drive you must be staying at a part much farther from Santa Fe because they are actually right next to each other.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2750198]True, my first loop was Thursday or Friday before lunch, and it was overcast and sad like I wrote. I did a loop over there Sunday afternoon on my rental bike and it was a lot sunnier and almost pleasant. Indeed, there were some younger women; however, I stand by my previous rating on the women there: 1) mostly fat 2) horrible tattoos 3) garish, sleazy, ill fitting "sexy" outfits 4) cellulite 5) fat. Also, the whole scene of loose paving, torn up streets, decay, torn garbage bags, stray dogs rooting through the garbage. It's not Soi Cowboy or Patpong, for sure.[/QUOTE]We're interested in the quality of the girls, not the pavement. If you dislike tattoos and skimpy outfits that much, you are in the wrong neighborhood and perhaps the wrong lifestyle. Let's try to be a bit more objective in our appraisals and leave the bitter cynicism of old age out of it, so that others can have better information to use to plan their trips. When I was there there were a lot of ugly fat chicks but there were also quite a few hot ones. I don't care about the ratio of ugly to hot as long as there are some good options. It's like going to a buffet and getting pissed off about all the food you don't like instead of just finding something you do like. You said you saw one you liked, you should have just banged her and let everything else go. I'm sorry for being a dick but I just have no patience for "traditional values" on a goddamn hooker forum. Soy cowboy may be relatively clean (is it actually though?) but it also has its fair share of ugly girls, and Thailand as a whole is anything but clean. Their beaches are gross. I'm sorry that it's so unpleasant for you to be reminded that we live in a reality where stray dogs rummage through garbage, rather than being able to relax on a swept (road with hundreds of Thai girls who have no ass combined between all of them.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2628131]Gentlemen sit back and let me regale you with tales of hot Santa Fe pussy. As I sit here in the bakery trying to make sense of it all.....


I like girls that let me take over and drive-- girls I can dominate and they enjoy it-- I have met so many-- Girls that let me gag them with my johnson, pull their hair and choke them a little. My program for quickees is usually the same get in the room and start with a some good hugging and grinding -- I like to check their oil and just feel them up good-- I stand on the bed and let them sit there and do oral always encouraging deep throat-- I like a girl that lets me grab her head so I can face fuck her. Then some missionary and doggie and then flatten her out for some lower doggie to finish. That is my typical quickee.[/QUOTE]The important part for me is the face fucking part. I'm trying to understand you method a bit more. I want to fuck some faces and take some girls breath away with a good gag. I'm usually the type to stray from this out of fear of ruining the atmosphere if the girl didn't like it, risking ruining the session and wasting money. I'm trying to understand how do you go about this? Do you negotiate this before hand? Do you go for it with no regard for the consequence since the potential financial loss is lower?

I would gladly pay extra for this. I planned to try and negotiate this, but after reading up on you adventures a bit it seems like you just go for it.

Also if you feel like the extra typing I'd love to read any other strip club stories you got. I'm interested in what I can expect while still on the floor. Are there any kisses, hjs or anything like that. I guess I enjoy the rush from PDA and strip clubs can be a great paid source of that. When I say PDA its not the lovey dove stuff. Its more like public foreplay. I know I can get just go and fuck them but I can do that at a casa or with a SG. In the strip club doing something note worthy on the floor even something minor would greatly enhance the value of the strip club for me.

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2750421]Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me with the altitude. Headaches, etc. By the time I get to Santa fe, i feel like I have vertigo, lol. Car shaking and streets going up and down.

Any suggestions for a Airbnb or guest friendly hotel would be nice thanks.[/QUOTE]Just zoom in on the area you want on airbnb, click a place, check the rules, if they don't mention anything about having visitors, message the host and ask them how they would feel about you having guests, potentially overnight. You're allowed to message 20 different hosts every 24 hours. This may not be the answer you're looking for but it's the correct one. Once people find a spot they like, they're not going to want to share it because they want it to be available next time they go to book it. You can try to read into rules like "not suitable for children", that's good. Or if they mention no noise after a certain time / be respectful to neighboring apartments, that may be code, or at least give some indictation of the host's uptightness. Personally I have so much respect for hosts that explicitly say in the rules that you can't have guests. I don't think they should be able to enforce rules that aren't written in the listing, it should not be the renter's responsibility to dig for more rules. But that's just airbnb's crappy policies. Also, "private entrance" in the amenities list doesn't mean jack shit. Even though the description says it's a private entrace to the street, airbnb just lets whoever put it up as long as it's not a shared unit. Pretty dumb.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2750427]I can't comment on quality, dependability or price, bit there are several escort agencies in Bogota. Just search "agencia prepago Bogota.

The reason it's not reported on much here is because there's a big price difference. You can do 5 or more girls in Santa Fe for the price of one from an escort service. La Celestina has been reviewed favorably a few times.[/QUOTE]I do not use escorts-- Santa Fe is enough for me as I am old and can usually find some hot girl there.

That said, here are some agencies I have been told about by guys visiting, and Not sure which but some send you un blurred photos after you gain trust.

[URL]https://www.encountersvip.com/[/URL] [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/[/URL] [URL]https://www.encountersvip.com/[/URL].

Perhaps the membership can chime in.

GoodLuck.

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2750421]Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me with the altitude. Headaches, etc. By the time I get to Santa fe, i feel like I have vertigo, lol. Car shaking and streets going up and down.

Any suggestions for a Airbnb or guest friendly hotel would be nice thanks.[/QUOTE]Ibis is a group favorite also San Francisco-- both walking distance to SF-.

A possibility is Hotel Dann (notCarleton) on calle 19 and CR 5- Also many cheaper hotels in this area.

Hotel Santa Fe Suites is actually right in the redlight area north strolol.

The area north around Ibis is pretty nice with many Airbnb and south of there too.

Good Luck.

GoodLuck.

Hi Guys,

I've been mongering all over the world, including US / Canada, Hong Kong, Thailand, Taiwan, Philippines, China. Looking to add Colombia to my conquest later this month. I'll be staying at Grand Hyatt for 5 nights with my brother (who isn't in the hobby. More on that later).

I've read about 60 pages on this forum. Would like to get your thoughts on my plans.

1. I am still trying to get a bitcoin wallet so I can finally message Woodman09. I plan to explore Santa Fe at least 2 of the 5 nights, would love some help navigating, especially the language barrier. Any extra caution for Asian guys in 30's if we were to go alone?

2. I'm also into escorts for the longer / better service. Yes I know the cost is 4 x higher at La Celestina vs clubs. Since I'd be sharing a suite, I can see if I can tempt my brother into a 3 some. If not, how would you recommend I "make room". Just book a second room?

3. I've arranged some local guides from Showaround for non-mongering activities. I had originally planned to use the guide as my wingman for the clubs and as a backup if I can't get Woodman's help (darn ISG messaging mechanism). I ended up hiring 2 (cute) female guides instead because the male ones were price gauging ($200/ day LOL). Any suggestion on hiring a buddy?

4. Does anyone on here want to meet up between 10/20-10/24 for dinner and other night time shenanigans?

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2750420]I appreciate the advice. The internet at large would have me believe that Colombia is as bad a dangerous place. I have been having a hard time understanding why local gangs and such would target gringos so hard. This would ultimately lower the people that visit. For a country with so many of its poor people relying on tourism that seems dumb. It make far more sense for them to be in charge of the brothels or charge them for protection and things like that. Anything besides systemically scaring off as many gringos as possible by robbing them.

In your advice do you think going to prepagos house is also relatively safe? It seems it may be fun to had on that front, but I've previously disregarded the idea due to the perceived risk factors.[/QUOTE]Been in mult apts in Bog and other places in Col and never an issue. You know what? At first I had that same little gut feeling you got, like will I be safe in someone private apt, what if I'm robbed etc. Then after few visits I notice they actually focus on business and making money, and all just as safe as a brothel, except more comfortable and nicer rooms w actual ac some of them. Now, you will be cat-fished few times meaning some girls post fake pics on photoprepago and mileroticos obviously LOL. Other than that you'll be fine hombre.

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2750421]Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me with the altitude. Headaches, etc. By the time I get to Santa fe, i feel like I have vertigo, lol. Car shaking and streets going up and down.

Any suggestions for a Airbnb or guest friendly hotel would be nice thanks.[/QUOTE]I usually stay about 5 or 10 minutes north of Santa fe in La Macarena, or technically in the district just northwest of it (international / financial area). Less crime, more police presence and lots of good dining options within walking distance or short Rappi. Checkout Lyra Cafe for breakfast or Restaurante Republik for dinner.

My last two airbnbs were excellent checkout.

Museo Building. Cusezar or Equilibrium on Google maps, both have pools which is relatively uncommon for the area.

Chapinero is still a bit of a drive but I found it difficult at times to get the Sante fe streetwalkers to agree to come back to my place unless it's near the Barrio. So Macarena has been close enough they don't freak out when I explain where it is.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2750190] the taximetro and it said something like 77, so I pulled out $80 k thinking 'oh well that's like $17 US or something, and the taxista (amazingly honest) would say (shocked), "No! What are you doing. It's seven, Seven! (i.e., $1.70 US) " -- meaning I stupidly (on more than one occasion) tried to pay the guy 10 X too much and the honest taxista, who could have easily taken the money and driven off, saved me from my own stupidity.
[/QUOTE]The way the taxi meters work in Bogota is that it registers a number (not the amount of money) when you get in the taxi and for each km the numbers go up and there should be a placard or sign in the taxi showing a table with the numbers and the corresponding prices, although they don't always have the sign. Anyways when I take a taxi from the airport to my hotel in Santa Fe the number usually is about 150 and that correlates to about $20 k COP.

Hope this helps.