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Yeah, I'm staying closer to B3 virrey. I guess I could stay further in Chapinero.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2750442]You know there are different parts of Chapinero right? For a 30 minute drive you must be staying at a part much farther from Santa Fe because they are actually right next to each other.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2750536]The way the taxi meters work in Bogota is that it registers a number (not the amount of money) when you get in the taxi and for each km the numbers go up and there should be a placard or sign in the taxi showing a table with the numbers and the corresponding prices, although they don't always have the sign. Anyways when I take a taxi from the airport to my hotel in Santa Fe the number usually is about 150 and that correlates to about $20 k COP.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I thought I might have paid the gringo tax but I think it is about right based on this benchmark. My meter always read between 330 to 350 and I always had to pay around 45 mil. I thought it is something they jack up because I am a gringo, but maybe not so much the case.
[QUOTE=TalkYes;2750462]... If you dislike tattoos and skimpy outfits that much, you are in the wrong neighborhood and perhaps the wrong lifestyle...[/QUOTE]Okay, shoulda' said "IMO" or "de gustibus non est disputandum". Whatever. Not for me.
[QUOTE=LoneRangers;2750534]I usually stay about 5 or 10 minutes north of Santa fe in La Macarena, or technically in the district just northwest of it (international / financial area)...[/QUOTE]I agree with this. Especially if you could find an Airbnb on Kr 4 a -- very pleasant area with a lot of good restaurants / coffee / beer. That area is close to where I stayed = very convenient. Unfortuantely, I haven't sussed out how to get the exact address for an Airbnb before renting, and although the "Equiibrium" tower (directly on Kr 7 at calle 31) had a lap pool and a jacuzzi, it was kind of otherwise alienating and cold. A dozen good / authentic restaurants on calle 30 up the hill from La Septima; although, I think they may be just day time only. I walked up there with my veneca on Sunday about 7 -- all closed. Maybe that street is a few blocks north of La Macarena. Technically, I think La Macarena is completely within Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=TalkYes;2750462]I don't care about the ratio of ugly to hot as long as there are some good options. You said you saw one you liked, you should have just banged her and let everything else go. I'm sorry for being a dick but I just have no patience for "traditional values" on a goddamn hooker forum.[/QUOTE]I am always wondering how many chicks someone planned to fuck if they are complaining about the ugly ones, because I just look right past them. Does not concern me. Not wasting my energy on it. As far as I am concerned it makes my choice easier when there are only a few that appeal to me. I honestly do not need 10 good ones to choose from if I am only going to fuck 1 or 2.
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2750479]The important part for me is the face fucking part. I'm trying to understand you method a bit more. I want to fuck some faces and take some girls breath away with a good gag. I'm usually the type to stray from this out of fear of ruining the atmosphere if the girl didn't like it, risking ruining the session and wasting money. I'm trying to understand how do you go about this? Do you negotiate this before hand? Do you go for it with no regard for the consequence since the potential financial loss is lower?
I would gladly pay extra for this. I planned to try and negotiate this, but after reading up on you adventures a bit it seems like you just go for it.
Also if you feel like the extra typing I'd love to read any other strip club stories you got. I'm interested in what I can expect while still on the floor. Are there any kisses, hjs or anything like that. I guess I enjoy the rush from PDA and strip clubs can be a great paid source of that. When I say PDA its not the lovey dove stuff. Its more like public foreplay. I know I can get just go and fuck them but I can do that at a casa or with a SG. In the strip club doing something note worthy on the floor even something minor would greatly enhance the value of the strip club for me.[/QUOTE]What works for me is be flirty and gregarious--I act like you're the king and am confident.
I always try to vette a girls attitude to get clues as to what to expect-- I will chat a bit and see how she reacts to being felt up. (Yes, I touch without permission-- Quick call the feminists- LOL).
Of course you can get fooled by girls that act one way and another in the room-- You have to try to detect be-S-- and that is not too hard if you are paying attention to the reactions.
Recently I really liked this one girl and I was not able to FF her very good-- in any case we got into quatro and I was banging her and slapped her ass and she got pissed, got up and walked out-- LOL.
Face banging a girl is a delicate situation-- As I said I usually will jump up on the bed have the girl sitting and let her start. At that point I will start touching her head and pushing a bit and see how that is-- I will go for a good gag and I'm always watching how she reacts and when she gags (I love a girl that gags and smiles) I will jokingly say 'Que pena you soy malo' and ' me gusta tu boca, muy Linda' and 'Tengo muchas ratos porti' Most girls I pick usually are fine with this and seem to be into it-- and then I know what to expect for future sessions.
I love the clubs, walking up to girls and dirty dancing with them. -- this a great way to vette girls. I do it all the time. In Venus club they sometimes will have a guy come up and bang the stripper on stage. I love the specticle of a club full of girls, 2-3 strippers on stage and 5-6 naked girls doing lapdances-- that is the best.
[QUOTE=TalkYes;2750462]We're interested in the quality of the girls, not the pavement. If you dislike tattoos and skimpy outfits that much, you are in the wrong neighborhood and perhaps the wrong lifestyle. Let's try to be a bit more objective in our appraisals and leave the bitter cynicism of old age out of it, so that others can have better information to use to plan their trips. When I was there there were a lot of ugly fat chicks but there were also quite a few hot ones. I don't care about the ratio of ugly to hot as long as there are some good options. It's like going to a buffet and getting pissed off about all the food you don't like instead of just finding something you do like. You said you saw one you liked, you should have just banged her and let everything else go. I'm sorry for being a dick but I just have no patience for "traditional values" on a goddamn hooker forum. Soy cowboy may be relatively clean (is it actually though?)[/QUOTE]TY, it seems like I have paid more per session than most ISGers have, and Miami Boy said in the Medellin forum that you get what you pay for, and I was like, "Wait, what do you mean by that?" For me, the notion that you are paying for better pussy or oral outside of Santa Fe is a myth, so you are not getting more for your money there.
That said, I did find it worthwhile to pay the girl money to leave Santa Fe and head to my hotel. Hell, Hotel Ibis, which has rooms like Motel 6, was an upgrade over the hotels / rooms in Santa Fe. So that was worth the money for me.
And I agree the atmosphere of Santa Fe is not for everyone. I would not object if someone called it a shithole. Thing is no one has a gun to your head and says that you cannot find a woman there and pay her to leave, and you are talking like $25 or $30 versus 15.
When I first went to Colombia, I went to the Northern strip clubs, and I was underwhelmed. The women may have been a little more classy and a little better looking on average than Santa Fe but I was paying like 10 to 15 X what guys pay in Santa Fe and was not having any experiences I considered memorable. That is why I blew off Colombia for years.
With Santa Fe, you can get laid by some very attractive, good performing women for $10 or even less a pop. If you are complaining about that, something is not right with you.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2750859]What works for me is be flirty and gregarious--I act like you're the king and am confident.
I always try to vette a girls attitude to get clues as to what to expect-- I will chat a bit and see how she reacts to being felt up. (Yes, I touch without permission-- Quick call the feminists- LOL).
Of course you can get fooled by girls that act one way and another in the room-- You have to try to detect be-S-- and that is not too hard if you are paying attention to the reactions.
Recently I really liked this one girl and I was not able to FF her very good-- in any case we got into quatro and I was banging her and slapped her ass and she got pissed, got up and walked out-- LOL..[/QUOTE]I was going to give this suggestion and you just wrote exactly my approach. I stand up for the BJ and prefer them or their knees, then I gently massage their head and whisper sexy dirty stuff, girls tend to perform more if they think they're doing a good job or when you compliment. Then gently I would hold their head and push deeper and hold, so far 100% of the time they like that, pull back and would smile, say "oh my" , surprise LOL!. Most would show off their skills and continue w real deep throats on their own once they figure that's what I want. It's like training them.
Imo I don't think it's wise to negotiate everything upfront, not for stuff like this, it's more thrilling to initiate the surprise or let the girl initiate it. It's funny that we complain all the time about mechanical sex yet we want to negotiate mechanical sex. Too many upfront arrangements doesn't work for some of us. Yeah I know you're paying and you must get what you want, as always we forgot humans aren't robots (my fav line). I'm telling you, the experience is 100 x better when you build it, shit I barely pay extra for those incl CIM / BB type stuff. Let some shit happen naturally.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2751180]I was going to give this suggestion and you just wrote exactly my approach. I stand up for the BJ and prefer them or their knees, then I gently massage their head and whisper sexy dirty stuff, girls tend to perform more if they think they're doing a good job or when you compliment. Then gently I would hold their head and push deeper and hold, so far 100% of the time they like that, pull back and would smile, say "oh my" , surprise LOL!. Most would show off their skills and continue w real deep throats on their own once they figure that's what I want. It's like training them.
Imo I don't think it's wise to negotiate everything upfront, not for stuff like this, it's more thrilling to initiate the surprise or let the girl initiate it. It's funny that we complain all the time about mechanical sex yet we want to negotiate mechanical sex. Too many upfront arrangements doesn't work for some of us. Yeah I know you're paying and you must get what you want, as always we forgot humans aren't robots (my fav line). I'm telling you, the experience is 100 x better when you build it, shit I barely pay extra for those incl CIM / BB type stuff. Let some shit happen naturally.[/QUOTE]Always looking for a good chemistry. I suspect that a lot of guys have problems because they lack good interpersonal skills. All the girls I repeat with like their hair pulled and giving up control to my sexual agenda, as I said before this is what I look for in my vetting process.
[QUOTE=TalkYes;2750462]We're interested in the quality of the girls, not the pavement. If you dislike tattoos and skimpy outfits that much, you are in the wrong neighborhood and perhaps the wrong lifestyle. Let's try to be a bit more objective in our appraisals and leave the bitter cynicism of old age out of it, so that others can have better information to use to plan their trips. When I was there there were a lot of ugly fat chicks but there were also quite a few hot ones..[/QUOTE]Been to Santa Fe the past couple days.
The Army has gone home. I miss those guys. Definitely made it safe there 24 hours a day. LOL.
Still safe enough tho. Be smart, most especially at night.
It is a trashy dumpy place, and there's lots of dumpy chicas, however, yesterday there were more than several nice ones.
Wednesday was horrible tho.
Heading back in a bit.
I'm pretty sure tonite will be great.
TGIV. Thank goodness it's Viernes.
LOL.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2750625]Unfortuantely, I haven't sussed out how to get the exact address for an Airbnb before renting, and although the "Equiibrium" tower (directly on Kr 7 at calle 31)[/QUOTE]Easy. You zoom in on the map then you click on the different places to look at the pictures. Alot of times they show the outside of the building with the address on it.
We had a great time tonight-- Got out to SF about 7;30 went through the South Stroll walked the North area a bit-- Pretty nice-.
By the way they are fixing the street on CR 15 so maybe they read the report ealier about it?
We went into California-- pretty average was quiet with a few girls, I know this club gets better later.
Troya was pretty nice but not quite full we had a beer and checked out Atonis which was ok-- Both of these clubs probably got better. Both were good and probably got better as it was about 8.
After we left to Venus which was better. Real nice girls there-- and it got better! Those girls try harder! There were some real hot girls and we sat down after a while there were 30 girls and half were like 7-8+ Actually I already had banged 6-7 and would repeat. This is what I love, lots of hot girls that I want to bang and I have to decide.
I met a really hot venezolana spinner she looked 18-19 but was 22-- got a lapdane with her for 20 mil and it was the best lapdance. I actually was playing doctor with her and stuck my thumb up her pussy LOL. I love giving girls wedgies during lapdance-- She was very willing and submissive and seemed to enjoy it. Popped viagra and had a GFE Quickee a while later. -- It was so great with BBBJ paid about 100 mil. She lives near me, I'll have to make an outside cita.
It was so good I considered hitting her again. I ended up banging this other girl I knew from before-- Really great GFE quickee again.
We left abouy 10:30 walked through Fiebre which was going really good.
It's So Grat!!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2750632]I am always wondering how many chicks someone planned to fuck if they are complaining about the ugly ones, because I just look right past them. Does not concern me. Not wasting my energy on it. As far as I am concerned it makes my choice easier when there are only a few that appeal to me. I honestly do not need 10 good ones to choose from if I am only going to fuck 1 or 2.[/QUOTE]Thought that was a secret mongering method. It only takes 5 minutes per club (I walk fast) and 45 minutes to see all of Santa Fe's usable streets. With Woodman a little longer, includes coffee and pastries etc. LOL but it's good for your first visit.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2751254]Easy. You zoom in on the map then you click on the different places to look at the pictures. Alot of times they show the outside of the building with the address on it.[/QUOTE]I think the host can choose where to place the unit on the map so it is not entirely accurate. Sometimes even the address you see after booking is not the same address that the host will give you before check-in. This has happened to me a few times and that is also the case of my current apartment.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2750198]True, my first loop was Thursday or Friday before lunch, and it was overcast and sad like I wrote. I did a loop over there Sunday afternoon on my rental bike and it was a lot sunnier and almost pleasant. Indeed, there were some younger women; however, I stand by my previous rating on the women there: 1) mostly fat 2) horrible tattoos 3) garish, sleazy, ill fitting "sexy" outfits 4) cellulite 5) fat. Also, the whole scene of loose paving, torn up streets, decay, torn garbage bags, stray dogs rooting through the garbage. It's not Soi Cowboy or Patpong, for sure.[/QUOTE]It took many visits to find a SW worth even $20. But they are there. In the clubs after 10 PM they are there. Still takes time to find them. And YES Santa Fe looks like & IS a SHIT HOLE. The SA girls are better in Bogota than even in Medellin. (smarter also) This is why I will return from Medellin in December. When I get a chance I will send you PM with pics.