Negative perspectives forcing a change
If guys are planning to move to the Philippines primarily because the attitude of women is perceived as "bad" in their home country then they are making a mistake.
There are so many other factors to consider.
We all know that it is better to change a career because another one is much more attractive and challenging. It is not always a good idea to leave a job (or a country) just because of negative perceptions unless you do due diligence on the frying pan into which you are jumping..
I left a very comfortable position with a guaranteed career progression in my country to work in the Philippines because (among many other reasons) , it offered lots of exciting new challenges in my line of work and my remuneration would be better, with greater sense of achievement. At no stage did the availability of attractive women come into the equation. I don't regret the decision to come to the Philippines because my work is 80% of my life and I enjoy what i do.
However, for those guys considering retiring here because of feminism in their home country and because of the availability of filipinas I would advise having a very good think about it and look ahead at least 10 or 20 years when you may not be as healthy or virile as you are now.
The infrastructure in the Philippines is seriously eroding, and this summer has shown it very clearly. There are zero signs that it will stop eroding further because as the story of the PDAF scam emerges (the whole truth will probably never be known) , there will be a long period (maybe a decade) of total instability and paralysis which will mean very little money will be spent on services (like power, phones, internet, roads, bridges etc).
Once you are retired you need much much more than just pretty women to look at or seduce in shopping malls or online. There are 24 hours in every day. Living outside of a major city will NOT solve the problem (if anything it will be worse, because infrastructure will be failing).
Of course, if you are hoping to live here in the hills with no modern conveniences, living in a nipa hut with no TV and growing your own meat and vegetables with a willing nubile young woman or two in loin cloths to wait on you hand and foot and non-stop sex all day then this will be paradise. The beer may not be cold though.
Customer service is still alive and well in Carriedo
I was in Manila last week. Took the LRT from the United Nations Station to the Carriedo Station at around 11 am. For anyone who has not partooked in the local SWs, they tend to congregate in two areas. On the east side of Rizal they are in close proximity to the Astrotel Hotel (use Google Maps and type in "Astrotel, Rizal Avenue, Manila" for the location). The other area is on the west side of Rizal between the Puregold Store and Sogo Hotel. For those of you who desire stunners, go somewhere else. It's rare I see anyone who I would rate above a 5 or 6, and I tend to grade on a curve, LOL. But for 500 pesos a whack, you can't be too picky.
Anyway, I exited the LRT and headed down the steps and then turned left and headed north along the east side of Rizal Avenue. I passed a couple of SWs hanging out at the Astrotel, but they weren't my cup of tea. By the way, there is a mobile sign in front of the hotel entrance and the girls tend to stand behind the sign, as to shield themselves from the piercing eyes of the locals.
North of the Astrotel there were about 6 SWs milling around in various spots, but one caught my eye. Tall for a Pinay, maybe 5' 4", and somewhat big boned. She was not what I would call "fat", but she had a larger body structure than the average filipina. Had a pretty face but I would not call her cute or gorgeous. Just an average Pinay, but she was dressed well and wore some cute moderately-high wedgie sandal heels. She had freshly washed hair and wore nice make up, and had a pretty smile. My spider sense started tingling and I smiled and said Hello,.
Her name was Grace, age 26 with two kids. I negotiated a 500 peso date, with an uncovered BJ and covered FS. I always discuss terms with the SWers so there's no confusion when we get to the room. It's amazing how many Carriedo SWs don't provide BJs, I guess their Pinoy customers don't require them, LOL.
We walk hand in hand across Rizal to the Sogo hotel, and we head to the 6th floor where I pay the 130 pesos fee for 1 hour. We head into the hotel room and asked her if she wanted me or her to shower first. To my surprise she said, "I will shower with you". So we stripped down, put on our Sogo slippers and headed to the shower. She soaped and rinsed me sufficiently, then unexpectedly kneeled down and started blowing me. Patiently sucking my shaft and licking my balls, ooooolala! Ahhhh, the feeling of warm water cascading over us while she did the deed was heavenly, and it took all my anti-concentration powers to keep from busting my nut.
After a couple of minutes I motioned her to stop. We then toweled each other dry, and headed to the bed. I pulled out a condom and we laid down and pulled the sheet over us because the air con was working way too well. I laid on my side and stuck out my arm and motioned I wanted her to lay right next to me. We made some small talk, then started kissing. Not just kissing, but deep throat-tongue swirling kissing like two 18 year old kids. We spend about 5 minutes smacking away, then I started licking her neck and nipples, which made her moan in what I believe to be a response to genuine pleasure.
I then motioned I wanted her to resume sucking on my little buddy. She immediately resumed her enthusiastic blow job. My gosh, is there anything more beautiful in the world than watching the face of a woman who enjoys sucking cock? Then for the finale', I unwrapped my USA Made ultrathin condom and had her guide it in. The sensation of being inside of her felt so good, it fit like a glove! I remember thinking that I'd never had a pussy that felt this perfect. In fact, I had to pull out of her a few times to keep from cumming too quickly.
After a few minutes I was ready to blow, so I started giving her some hard pounding. Then she did something that no other woman has ever done with me. After continuously and vigorously thrusting her pelvis into mine, she let out a loud moan and sighed "I'm finished". Of course I wasn't done yet, so after a brief pause, I resumed vigorously pounding her and after about 30 seconds I blew my wad into the latex. She then moaned again, so I guess she wasn't totally finished after all, haha.
After cleaning ourselves up, we laid on the bed and made some small talk. She commutes from Caloocan City to Carriedo each day, which is a 1 hour commute each way. A long way to come to earn 500 pesos per event, but she says she averages 1 to 3 customers per day, which gives her enough to pay the bills. She says she arrives around 9 am and goes home around 4 pm.
3 months prior she had returned from a 2 year stint in Dubai and was finding it hard to make ends meet here in the Phils while raising two kids. Sometimes we forget these women are "human beings" and are doing this kind of work to survive in this world.
Also, it turns out I was the first foreign man she had ever been with. I told her I was skeptical, and she said "no, I swear it is true". I then told me I was such a handsome man (yeah right, but I trust her judgment) and she was very attracted to this 55 year old guy. What an ego boost, haha.
We departed the Sogo and went to a nearby store so I could buy some refreshments. Bottled water for me and pineapple juice for her. Total cost was 650 pesos (500 for her, 130 for the room, and 20 pesos for her drink). She didn't ask for a tip and I didn't offer, I don't like spoiling the market.
I like Carriedo for a number of reasons. First, it's easy to get to as long as you don't have a phobia about riding on the LRT / MRT system. Second, it's a safe place to go during the day. It's a crowded area with lots of vendors and shoppers. I haven't even encountered any beggars. Just make sure your money is zipped up and not accessible to pickpocketers. Also, leave your credit cards and extra money in your hotel safe. Don't bring anything that you can't afford to lose.
Third, the price is right. Some women there will quote you 1000 pesos, but will drop it down to 500 if you start walking away. Make sure to stand your ground!
Fourth, it's rare to see another white person in that area of town. I've had 8 women total there in a past couple of years and most of them have said I'm their first foreign customer. Consequently, I've gotten reasonably good service from each one. Not every one has given GFE like this girl, but they have been nice, pleasant, clean, fun to be with, and have provided good service. Just make sure to negotiate the details before heading to the hotel.
I've mongered in all corners of the world. At times I pay a lot of money for companionship and other times I pay a pittance. We all know there's a definite relationship between price and expectation of service. But there's certainly no correlation between price and the quality of the outcome. It kills me to pay $150-200 US for bad service in Hong Kong or Singapore. But if I were to pay $10 for bad service in Carriedo, I can easily just write it off and go find another one.
Ok I'm done pontificating now...go forth and multiply!
Simple Question - Is it different in any other 3rd world country?
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1568066]I seriously considered settling in Manila...
If you do decide to settle in PI, then you need to be prepared to be bombarded with pleas from, not just the girl (s) of the moment, but a whole assortment of family members, cousins, nieces, and various other hangers-on, of all the girls with whom you have ever had more than a one-night stand...[/QUOTE]I admit, that Madagascar is the only 'poor country' I got to know better.
But my understanding of 'social systems' in such a country is, that you never just date a young lady in a LTR, but you get connected with the needs of the whole family clan. If this family gets to know you in person, it's getting you into even more financial troubles.
Another question. Why did you give money to a spoiled kid, hoping this kid would earn money and will pay back your 'loan' - I did the same in Madagascar long time ago for buying a Citroen 2 CV as a taxi plus the license and was naive in believing that a 'loan' is a 'loan'. Strangely enough, the car was stolen soon and they asked me for another 'loan'. Of course I declined, cut any contacts with this family and wrote off the money as an expensive learning experience.
Simple Answer; I think Yes!
[QUOTE=Ganesha;1568459]I admit, that Madagascar is the only 'poor country' I got to know better.
But my understanding of 'social systems' in such a country is, that you never just date a young lady in a LTR, but you get connected with the needs of the whole family clan. If this family gets to know you in person, it's getting you into even more financial troubles.
Another question. Why did you give money to a spoiled kid, hoping this kid would earn money and will pay back your 'loan' - I did the same in Madagascar long time ago for buying a Citroen 2 CV as a taxi plus the license and was naive in believing that a 'loan' is a 'loan'. Strangely enough, the car was stolen soon and they asked me for another 'loan'. Of course I declined, cut any contacts with this family and wrote off the money as an expensive learning experience.[/QUOTE]Hi Ganesha,
I agree that in many countries (not just developing countries) there are 'social systems', where families are close-knit, and include extended families, and where filial responsibilities are taken seriously. In these places, the sharing of wealth is expected, and common.
But in PI, the asking and giving occurs not just between family, but between friends and acquaintances. I think it is a cultural thing, like the way Filipina share food with each other. I knew a DH in Hong Kong who had no idea of how much money she had loaned, or borrowed, from many of her friends there. It was just something that happened all the time.
If I have known a SYT for one week, I am surely not part of an extended family at that point of time. Sometimes they start asking for money within minutes of meeting! One hears some truly inventive stories. I am sure that other ISGers here could relate many hilarious episodes.
The spoiled trike driver 'kid' was 43 yo with a wife and 3 children, none of whom worked (even though one, a bakla, was a university graduate). As my wife's eldest brother, with a serious heart condition, I sincerely wanted to help him as his trike was truly stuffed. And, although I suspected that I might never see the money again, I did not expect him to just repair his old motor bike and give the rest of the money to his wife and kids.
I have helped a number of Filipina with 'loans' as I believe that the girls are more than just 'fresh meat' as some people seem to believe. I have put a girl through university (she was a relative), set up a girl's online shopping site, helped another girl obtain a nursing job in Hong Kong, and provided the government bond for a girl to migrate to Australia (she was a doctor).
If I had unlimited funds, I would certainly help many more deserving cases there. But, if I lived there, the scale of requests from ex-family and ex-gfs would be truly tedious!
Cheers,
Ikksman.
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