Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Balboa;2756118]Those touts from Texas and California are mostly just kids. I guess I've seen a couple older guys in the group at times.

Mostly just trying to egg you on to get you in the club so they can make a buck.

I've never seen them as intimidating, maybe annoying at times.

I'm actually glad they're on the street there, especially at night. Keeps it safer that way.

I jokingly call them marijuaneros and rap with them at times.

Most are pretty good guys, trying to survive in that tough world they're in.[/QUOTE]They don't intimidate me-- THey attempt to- and they are too pushy-- Personally I don't like DickHeads like that. And I do not trust them at all-.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2756028]A lot of guys report doing it by making the first offer. I think they see it as they are offering some type of "going rate" or even a rate that is cheaper than back home. But I am like how do you know she would not have told you a lower price if you had not made the offer first?

Do people really set out to buy cars or houses and just walk up and offer the owner a price without asking how much they want for it first? If there is anything I have learned from reading this board it is that a lot of guys treat buying pussy different than they do buying anything else.[/QUOTE]Some girls, especially those just starting out, have no clue how much to ask. They don't know what going rates are. Pros will quote a price before you even say Hi. Seeking / Tinder / FB girls that are new to this, usually would like a guy to make a first move. Some girls prefer not to discuss price at all and just hope they will be taken care of. This is my favorite audience, because I prefer my relationships to feel less transactional.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2756144]Some girls, especially those just starting out, have no clue how much to ask. They don't know what going rates are. Pros will quote a price before you even say Hi. Seeking / Tinder / FB girls that are new to this, usually would like a guy to make a first move. Some girls prefer not to discuss price at all and just hope they will be taken care of. This is my favorite audience, because I prefer my relationships to feel less transactional.[/QUOTE]This is great insight. I just have one concern. When doing things your favorite way as stated above, aren't you opening yourself up to the risk that the girl will ask for something unreasonable after the deed is done? This could lead to trouble if you don't comply from what I understand. It sounds like a the a high risk high reward type deal. I'm just trying to understand as I'm still putting together my plan of attack if you will. I'd love to try it your way on the contingency you have some sort of best practice to mitigate the risk that seem obvious to me. Keep in mind I've never been to Colombia and I know just enough Spanish to tell the locals confidently that I don't know Spanish. I say that to say, I maybe looking at this wrong and I urge you to correct me if that is the case.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2756133]They don't intimidate me-- THey attempt to- and they are too pushy-- Personally I don't like DickHeads like that. And I do not trust them at all-.[/QUOTE]Ok Woodman, I understand your take.

They just never seem even attempting to intimidate me.
Just convince me, Lol, and yes, they can be pushy, but no more than the guys on the other street trying to get you in their clubs.
Imo theyre not intimidating type guys.

I just say some joke and they laugh and I move on.
I personally don't think they're dickheads, at least not the guys I've dealt with.
You're obviously entitled to your opinion tho.

And I don't trust them either. I don't trust anyone I meet in Colombia, Lol.

I am curious about best practice as well as some don't want to say anything. Some just say that they want benefits. So I'm not sure, but assume l, they want to be wined and dined, travel, and so on. Someone mentioned this before, but I did get one who was not happy about offering an hourly rate. She was okay with a longer date. I'm guessing it's like sugar dating.

Got PM now so feel free to message me as well on your experiences, tips, advices if you don't want to post.

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2756295]This is great insight. I just have one concern. When doing things your favorite way as stated above, aren't you opening yourself up to the risk that the girl will ask for something unreasonable after the deed is done? This could lead to trouble if you don't comply from what I understand. It sounds like a the a high risk high reward type deal. I'm just trying to understand as I'm still putting together my plan of attack if you will. I'd love to try it your way on the contingency you have some sort of best practice to mitigate the risk that seem obvious to me. Keep in mind I've never been to Colombia and I know just enough Spanish to tell the locals confidently that I don't know Spanish. I say that to say, I maybe looking at this wrong and I urge you to correct me if that is the case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2756295]This is great insight. I just have one concern. When doing things your favorite way as stated above, aren't you opening yourself up to the risk that the girl will ask for something unreasonable after the deed is done? This could lead to trouble if you don't comply from what I understand. It sounds like a the a high risk high reward type deal. I'm just trying to understand as I'm still putting together my plan of attack if you will. I'd love to try it your way on the contingency you have some sort of best practice to mitigate the risk that seem obvious to me. Keep in mind I've never been to Colombia and I know just enough Spanish to tell the locals confidently that I don't know Spanish. I say that to say, I maybe looking at this wrong and I urge you to correct me if that is the case.[/QUOTE]Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:

1. If a girl tells me her hourly / nightly rate, with or without extra charge for BBBJ, etc. I pass on her. Not interested in pros. Even if her price is within my budget.

2. If a girl doesn't give me a quote but asks me what my offer is, I give her a wide range. Say, 250 k to 500 k cop. I proceed to tell her how I see our date going, without going too much into detail, and that the better chemistry we have and the longer she stays with me, the more I will pay (within the range). I also like to tell that if all goes great, I would love to see her on a regular basis. All of these is used to motivate a girl.

3. If a girl doesn't mention price at all, I don't mention it either. In this case I treat her like a non pro and look forward to a normal date, which sometimes ends at my place, but not always.

I get your point, we all know these crazy stories when a hooker gets mad and calls police or threatens you, but I think these girls fall into the first category, they are easy to weed out. Categorie 2 and 3 girls usually are not drama queens and probably won't cause you any problems. If you pay her below her expected price, chances are you won't see her again, which might be a good or bad thing. When I go on a date, I usually meet a girl in a public place, we go out for drinks or dinner, and spend some time to get to know each other. If the date doesn't go well and I feel like she might cause problems, I call it a night and go back to my apartment alone, you are better off losing a few bucks on dinner than having some drama or police involved at your place.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2756376]Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:

1. If a girl tells me her hourly / nightly rate, with or without extra charge for BBBJ, etc. I pass on her. Not interested in pros. Even if her price is within my budget.

2. If a girl doesn't give me a quote but asks me what my offer is, I give her a wide range. Say, 250 k to 500 k cop. I proceed to tell her how I see our date going, without going too much into detail, and that the better chemistry we have and the longer she stays with me, the more I will pay (within the range). I also like to tell that if all goes great, I would love to see her on a regular basis. All of these is used to motivate a girl.l

[/QUOTE]Good plan.

Isn't girl in option 2 a pro as well? 🤔 Lol.

I do like your motivation tactics tho.
Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2756412]Good plan.

Isn't girl in option 2 a pro as well? 🤔 Lol.

I do like your motivation tactics tho.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Semi-pro. Someone who doesn't do this for living. Like a college girl living with her parents trying to earn a few bucks to buy a new dress or a purse.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2756413]Semi-pro. Someone who doesn't do this for living. Like a college girl living with her parents trying to earn a few bucks to buy a new dress or a purse.[/QUOTE]Got it! Thanks.

I like all pros. Semi, regular, part time, full time, union, Lol

Except for hardened pros of course. 😬

[QUOTE=Balboa;2756650]Got it! Thanks.

I like all pros. Semi, regular, part time, full time, union, Lol

Except for hardened pros of course.[/QUOTE]If you soak the hardened ones in hydrogen peroxide diluted with water they'll soften up.

At least it works with ear wax.

Bogota to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin by bus: I was interested in night bus from Bogota to Cucuta. I got following information from inquiring at Bogota bus terminus. The list is in the order of the booths in terminal, from left to right.

Berlinas: 100 k to Cucuta, buses at 4:45 pm, 5:45 pm (piso 2 bus), 7:10 pm, 8:55 pm, 10:15 pm, 12 midnight.

65 k to Bucaramanga, buses at 7:30 am, 8:30 am, 9:45 am.

No bus to Cali or Medellin.

Bolivariano: Cali bus at 7:30 pm, 8 pm, 9:30 pm, and 10 pm (piso 2 bus).

Medellin bus at 6:40 pm (?77 k), 9 pm (?87 k), 12 midnight (piso 2 bus).

Cucuta last bus at 5:30 pm.

No bus to Bucaramanga.

Copetran: 170 k to Cucuta, buses at 7:20 pm, 8:20 pm, 11:10 pm.

105 k to Bucaramanga, buses at 6, 6:40,7:20,8. I think all are morning bus.

No bus to Cali or Medelling.

Omega: 100 k to Cucuta, buses at 6:10 pm, 8:15 pm, 9:40 pm.

70 k to Bucaramanga, buses at 7:45,4:30,10. I think 7:45 am, 4:30 pm, 10 pm.

No bus to Cali or Medellin.

Rapido Ochoa: 85 k to Medellin, buses at 4:30 pm /6:30 pm, 9 pm, 10:30 pm.

Libertadores: No bus to Cucuta / Cali / Medellin. Only small van to Bucaramanga.

Rapido El Carmen: No bus to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Reina: Bucaramanga buses at 6 am, 9 am. No bus to Cucuta / Cali / Medellin.

Cotrans: 80 k to Cucuta, bus at 11 pm. No bus to Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Expreso Brasilia: No bus to Cucuta / Cali. 90 k to Medellin. No morning bus to Medellin / Bucaramanga.

Flota Rionegro: No bus to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Concorde: 80 k to Cucuta, buses at 6 pm, 7 pm, 8 pm, 10 pm.

Bucaramanga buses at 4:30 pm, 6:50 pm, 9 am.

No bus to Cali / Medellin.

Macarena /'Expreso Favito'Trans Alianza': No bus to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Flota Magdalena: Cali buses at 8:30 am, 10 am, 12 noon, 2:30 pm.

Medelling buses at 6:20 am, 8:40 am, 10 am.

I took the night bus from Bucaramanga to Cucuta, and can confirm that the above information for Bogota to Cucuta was valid.

I took 11:10 pm bus for 100 k (don't remember which bus), but the bus travelled through Bucaramanga, which is a longer route. So, I guess the buses charging 80 k from Bogota to Cucuta would take the direct / shorter route.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2756376]Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:[/QUOTE]I remember an SA girl / in law school who lived with Mom. She always had to be home by 8-9 pm. Yep really. I used to give her a hard time, saying can't you just get a note from Mom to meet me? Then she shows up driving her Mom's Mercedes. I was quite after that. Almost felt I was out of my league.

Another SA girl finishing flight attendant school. Show's up in her uniform! Sexy!

And recently in Medellin. An actual model who has me take photos for her IG account and tells me if we go out in public people here know me and we will get "looks".

A violinist / gymnast / blond in Bog who was sales & marketing director for a Russian company that no one would do business with anymore. Sang to me in French. Has an actual Visa. wow was good in bed.

All these girls are bilingual. All can do without. So they are extremely picky. And yes they also expect $ at first. Later maybe not. Good luck to the guys who understand. Now ff only I could figure out this FB game. I want to use my real account. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2756376]Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:

1. If a girl tells me her hourly / nightly rate, with or without extra charge for BBBJ, etc. I pass on her. Not interested in pros. Even if her price is within my budget.

2. If a girl doesn't give me a quote but asks me what my offer is, I give her a wide range. Say, 250 k to 500 k cop. I proceed to tell her how I see our date going, without going too much into detail, and that the better chemistry we have and the longer she stays with me, the more I will pay (within the range). I also like to tell that if all goes great, I would love to see her on a regular basis. All of these is used to motivate a girl.

3. If a girl doesn't mention price at all, I don't mention it either. In this case I treat her like a non pro and look forward to a normal date, which sometimes ends at my place, but not always.

I get your point, we all know these crazy stories when a hooker gets mad and calls police or threatens you, but I think these girls fall into the first category, they are easy to weed out. Categorie 2 and 3 girls usually are not drama queens and probably won't cause you any problems. If you pay her below her expected price, chances are you won't see her again, which might be a good or bad thing. When I go on a date, I usually meet a girl in a public place, we go out for drinks or dinner, and spend some time to get to know each other. If the date doesn't go well and I feel like she might cause problems, I call it a night and go back to my apartment alone, you are better off losing a few bucks on dinner than having some drama or police involved at your place.[/QUOTE]This is great advice. Thanks.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2756722]I remember an SA girl / in law school who lived with Mom. She always had to be home by 8-9 pm. Yep really. I used to give her a hard time, saying can't you just get a note from Mom to meet me? Then she shows up driving her Mom's Mercedes. I was quite after that. Almost felt I was out of my league.

Another SA girl finishing flight attendant school. Show's up in her uniform! Sexy!

And recently in Medellin. An actual model who has me take photos for her IG account and tells me if we go out in public people here know me and we will get "looks".

A violinist / gymnast / blond in Bog who was sales & marketing director for a Russian company that no one would do business with anymore. Sang to me in French. Has an actual Visa. wow was good in bed.

All these girls are bilingual. All can do without. So they are extremely picky. And yes they also expect $ at first. Later maybe not. Good luck to the guys who understand. Now ff only I could figure out this FB game. I want to use my real account. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]As someone who uses their real account, I don't recommend it. Eventually everyone on your regular friend lust will be receiving messages and friend requests from Colombianas. If that might cause you problems I recommend getting a new tablet, using it to set up a new Facebook account and only use that tablet for your alter ego.

Once you have a lot of connections in Medellin you can start finding a few in Bogota, but it's not as common.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2756353]Ok Woodman, I understand your take.

They just never seem even attempting to intimidate me.
Just convince me, Lol, and yes, they can be pushy, but no more than the guys on the other street trying to get you in their clubs.
Imo theyre not intimidating type guys.

I just say some joke and they laugh and I move on.
I personally don't think they're dickheads, at least not the guys I've dealt with.
You're obviously entitled to your opinion tho.

And I don't trust them either. I don't trust anyone I meet in Colombia, Lol.[/QUOTE]I've been going down there too much too, but I do get along better with the guys on 16 a much better.

I tip a lot of those guys but when they start acting entitled is the problem.