Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2756806]I've been going down there too much too, but I do get along better with the guys on 16 a much better.

I tip a lot of those guys but when they start acting entitled is the problem.[/QUOTE]I get that life in Colombia is tough and I respect anyone with a job trying to make ends meet. Having said that, I fucking hate the guys that try to get you in the club and the guys who follow you into the club and expect a tip for standing behind you while you ordered a drink. Last night was my final straw and I don't know if I'll be going back to sf. I commented a while back kind of reeming a guy out for focussing on all the negative aspects of sf and none of the positive, but now I kind of see how they're inseperable. But these guys are what I hate the most by a longshot. Last night a guy followed me into a club, and so I turned back and left. Then when he wasn't looking I went back in. Then another guy in the club sees me and tries to pull the same shit. I told him "No necessito ayudar, yo puedo pedir una cervesa" and he kept following me, so I left again. He followed me into the street and yelled "FUCK YOU, MY FRIEND" jesus. It's not even having to tip them for nothing that bathers me. It's more so that I want to keep a low profile and I don't like them following me like creepers, acting like they are the reason I went in, not on my own accord. It's funny because those guys exist to bring people into the club but I bet for most people it has the opposite desired effect. Like in my case I don't even want to go back to sf because of all the people who claim to be "helping" me when all they're doing is drawing attention to me and wanting to be paid for it. Fuck that, I can't emphasize enough, fuck that. If there was a club that didn't have those guys, I would exclusively go there.

So yeah, I'm kind of over sf. As I said, the good and the bad are insepparable. Everone is bummed out because they work in such a ghetto place. Yes, there is one hot girl in the street for every 10 ugly ones, but they usually have a shit attitude and if you want more than basic mechanical service, it's no longer a good deal and you're better off finding someone better looking on mileroticos or somewhere else. The club girls are a bit better, but the clubs have their own problems like the one I mentioned, plus the obnoxiously loud electonic music and the waiting game of trying to get the attention of the girl you like without chasing her around the club like a lion chasing a ghazelle. Oh and another thing, unless you have a micropenis, bring your own condoms to the clubs in sf. The ones they give out will cut off your circulation. Not trying to flex on my dick size or anything but the session I had with a really cute venezolana in the club was pretty much ruined by this mistake.

Moving past the negative, I've met a girl on SA that I am basically making my main girl and trying to see her whenever she's available, she's fantastic. Not cheap but worth it. Had another not bad session with an SA girl. Had 2 sessions with girls from photoprepagos and both were very solid. One had kind of a shit attitude but I still really like her so much that I'm not going to share her info haha sorry. Was kinda worried that the photos or listings would be fake but they were not. Here is the other girl. She was 130 mil I think and 80 mil extra for BBBJ. Really great attitude and service. [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/esbelta-jovencita-con-mente-abierta-full-morbosa-descomplicada/23221710/[/URL].

Going to Medellin soon. I want to see for myself which city is better. I've heard a lot of people say that Bogota is cheaper but I've also heard that it's not. I've also observed that the cream of the crop on SA in Bogota is not quite at the level of Medellin, and I think that works in Medellin's favor, since the high level of competition among the hottest girls means they have a lower ceiling at how much they can charge. A lot of 8's and 9's in Bogota want the same amound of money as 10's in Medellin. Although it's really hard to compare just on photos and price since you don't know what the service will be like.

Taxi from Bogota terminal (satire): he tried to overcharge at the dropoff. For 132 taxi units, he said it is 25 k pesos. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a fare conversion chart online. When asked for a fare chart that should be behind the passenger's seat, he said he forgot to bring it. The cabify app suggested the taxi fare is 15-18 k pesos and I showed him. All the while he hasn't stopped the meter and showed me that I need to pay for the units, but I showed the photo for 132 units I took as soon as the taxi reached my place. I argued I will pay 15 k in that case, then ended up paying 23 k and he left.

Taxi meters in Medellin, coffee region (Manizales, Pereira, Armenia) are good, the meter shows in pesos. In Cali & Bogota, the meter shows units, and I don't know where to find the conversion chart. But Uber, easytaxi (cabify), Didi experience is good. So, I never used taxi in Cali & Bogota except for the initial trip from the terminal. You could avoid a taxi even from terminal and use Uber / Cabify / Didi if you are willing to walk outside the terminal and get into the car from outside.

ATMs: I found ATMs from 4 different banks in a exito store. I have usual USA cards. Schwab, etc. I tried 1 or more of my cards in these ATMs.

[URL]Servicibanca.com.co[/URL]: Has 18.2 k fee. Maximum withdrawal 2 M pesos for overseas card.

Davivienda: no fees. Maximum withdrawal 2 M pesos.

Scotiabank: Didn't use, either 600 k /900 k max withdrawal or fee or both.

Cajero: Didn't use, either 600 k /900 k max withdrawal or fee or both.

It only costs 1 mil to get the meseros to leave you alone. They'll also bring the girl you want directly to you, so you don't have to chase anyone around the club. Your entire evening can change drastically with a different outlook and attitude about the meseros. What's the deal with the "low profile" thing? No one really cares about the customers in these places. Too many hot chicks to focus your attention on.

[QUOTE=TalkYes;2757244]I get that life in Colombia is tough and I respect anyone with a job trying to make ends meet. Having said that, I fucking hate the guys that try to get you in the club and the guys who follow you into the club and expect a tip for standing behind you while you ordered a drink. Last night was my final straw and I don't know if I'll be going back to sf. I commented a while back kind of reeming a guy out for focussing on all the negative aspects of sf and none of the positive, but now I kind of see how they're inseperable. But these guys are what I hate the most by a longshot. Last night a guy followed me into a club, and so I turned back and left. Then when he wasn't looking I went back in. Then another guy in the club sees me and tries to pull the same shit. I told him "No necessito ayudar, yo puedo pedir una cervesa" and he kept following me, so I left again. He followed me into the street and yelled "FUCK YOU, MY FRIEND" jesus. It's not even having to tip them for nothing that bathers me. It's more so that I want to keep a low profile and I don't like them following me like creepers, acting like they are the reason I went in, not on my own accord. It's funny because those guys exist to bring people into the club but I bet for most people it has the opposite desired effect. Like in my case I don't even want to go back to sf because of all the people who claim to be "helping" me when all they're doing is drawing attention to me and wanting to be paid for it. Fuck that, I can't emphasize enough, fuck that. If there was a club that didn't have those guys, I would exclusively go there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TomDick69;2757285]Taxi from Bogota terminal (satire): he tried to overcharge at the dropoff. For 132 taxi units, he said it is 25 k pesos. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a fare conversion chart online. When asked for a fare chart that should be behind the passenger's seat, he said he forgot to bring it. The cabify app suggested the taxi fare is 15-18 k pesos and I showed him. All the while he hasn't stopped the meter and showed me that I need to pay for the units, but I showed the photo for 132 units I took as soon as the taxi reached my place. I argued I will pay 15 k in that case, then ended up paying 23 k and he left.

Taxi meters in Medellin, coffee region (Manizales, Pereira, Armenia) are good, the meter shows in pesos. In Cali & Bogota, the meter shows units, and I don't know where to find the conversion chart. But Uber, easytaxi (cabify), Didi experience is good. So, I never used taxi in Cali & Bogota except for the initial trip from the terminal. You could avoid a taxi even from terminal and use Uber / Cabify / Didi if you are willing to walk outside the terminal and get into the car from outside..[/QUOTE]I found this, which may be useful. I have never been in a taxi in Bogota. My first time someone snagged me in the terminal and I foolishly followed. He tried to charge me $60, but security at my hotel heard him and stared him down until it dropped to 40 k pesos. Still way too much. I always use the Transmilenio or Uber.

[URL]https://www.infobae.com/en/2022/04/10/learn-how-to-calculate-the-taxi-fare-in-bogota/[/URL]

Cajero is Spanish for ATM, it's not a bank name. The Cajero ATMs were probably Bancolombia.

[QUOTE=FriskyFrank;2757325]It only costs 1 mil to get the meseros to leave you alone. They'll also bring the girl you want directly to you, so you don't have to chase anyone around the club. Your entire evening can change drastically with a different outlook and attitude about the meseros. What's the deal with the "low profile" thing? No one really cares about the customers in these places. Too many hot chicks to focus your attention on.[/QUOTE]It's the principle. I shouldn't have to pay someone to leave me alone, no matter how cheap it is. I don't want people touching me on the street, spreading their arms and blocking my way so I have to go on the road just to get around them, following me and repeating the 2 or 3 English words they know, drawing attention to the fact that I'm a tourist. It's a deal breaker for me. Fuck Santa fee.

[QUOTE=Playboy2021;2700965]The Dann Carlton hotel chains across Colombia are total shit and should be avoided at all costs. Took me 5 months and multiple in person visits to receive a $500 refund I was due. Incompetent and terrible customer service.[/QUOTE]There are 3 in Bogota. Which one and what was the problem? Medellin has 2 both extremely high end, still reasonable and my first choice!

[QUOTE=FudiMaar;2675130]My 1 month on Seeking expires tomorrow and I have no plans to renew it. I'm in Bogota and will go to Medellin in a few days, so may reconsider it there, depending on my luck with the casas.

With Seeking, there are so many unknowns. The girl often looks different to the photos; her attitude may stink; she likely won't even show up.

(P. S- if anyone can tell me how to make some text bold in my posts, then I'd appreciate it.).

.).[/QUOTE]The same WG's on Millorotices etc. Use SA. EXCEPT maybe 5-10% are actual non or semi pro girls, educated looking for a good time and yes, sex will happen. If you treat them like Ho's. LOL they will either block you or in person you will have a problem. 200 cop. LOL DO NOT allow people to contact you. Find the ones you like and message them. It sounds like you should look elsewhere. For me it has been life changing.

Boots on the ground in SF next weekend and I just checked the exch rate and fuck. It's 4938.75 COP right now to $1 USD. I thought I was balling last month in mde at 4200 COP / USD. Anyone did an ATM withdrawal recently if so what's the offered rate? I know sometimes if rejected you get slightly more but never the full amt that Google shows.

Anyho can't wait to be back to my fav spot despite all the recent negative posts and the ocean-size massive tearful mommy I'm lonely cries lost my puta and won't go back to SF shit LOL. Woodman hope to bump into you soon man for a beer and a gangbang lmao.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2757604]The same WG's on Millorotices etc. Use SA. EXCEPT maybe 5-10% are actual non or semi pro girls, educated looking for a good time and yes, sex will happen. If you treat them like Ho's. LOL they will either block you or in person you will have a problem. 200 cop. LOL DO NOT allow people to contact you. Find the ones you like and message them. It sounds like you should look elsewhere. For me it has been life changing.[/QUOTE]In my experience unless your Spanish is good and you can go after non pros, than SA is better if you want GFE compared to casas, online escorts, or santa fe. Don't get me wrong. I love all three, but if you like GFE and you are like me, than SA is for thee.

If you just ignore the fake / touched up looking photos, Instagram types, and big / fake boobs. SA in Bogota is awesome and I am finding mostly semi pro to non. I am looking at skinner, usually pretty good to great English (B1 to C1. 5) - And way more than enough of the flaquitas / "curvey" girls I find are either non or semi pro. Of that, most are educated, looking to chill and do things like listening to music before and after and not just have sex. Some are just looking for sex though, and I am good with that too. I also mostly focused on ones that have joined in the last 3-4 months, emphasis on last 2 or less. I don't treat any like hoes any more unless its real crystal clear.

I put quotes around curvey, because curvey is very different compared to US. It does not mean mildly to very obese with massive thighs, legs, and arms. At first, I was filtering that out and it was limiting my results. It often seems what some Latinas are self describing as curvey is our version of slim but with an actual butt. And flaquita is. Well. Flaquita.

When I ignore the non desirable categories (for me) I am finding mostly non to semi pros. You can also get a real good feel from the WhatsApp status updates. If you see family photos and friend fun like parks, dogs, bars & concerts. Pretty good chance they are semi pro to non. Also, two of my favorites had WORSE pictures than the actual in person. Like I was attracted online, but knock out when we meet. Those types tend to wear very frumpy / big cloths too. I roll the dice a bit sometimes and have always been handsomely rewarded.

I have it down where I spend maybe 2 hours ever 2-3 weeks to line up more first meets than I can handle per week. Real good ROI for me both in time and money for the subscription. I tend to spend 2 months there at a time though as a reference point, but with my method I could make the same thing work in a 7-10 day trip now. My Spanish is still not great. Getting better though.

Hi,

I have been trying to grow my facebook list of girls. I'm up to 6 and some of them don't live in the right places. Can someone drop link to a Bogota girl they has friends I could add. I know it's supposedly harder in Bogota get Facebook girls, but I still would like to try. Hopefully I can break the code and find a way to use FB as a resource to acquire GFE. Any help is appreciated. 24 days until my trip and it is crunch time to find 5 - 10 possible girls (I know some will flake). If you guys have a fake facebook account with some girls on your friends list and you don't mind sharing that it would also be a help. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=TalkYes;2757244]So yeah, I'm kind of over sf. As I said, the good and the bad are insepparable. Everone is bummed out because they work in such a ghetto place. Yes, there is one hot girl in the street for every 10 ugly ones, but they usually have a shit attitude and if you want more than basic mechanical service, it's no longer a good deal and you're better off finding someone better looking on mileroticos or somewhere else. The club girls are a bit better, but the clubs have their own problems like the one I mentioned, plus the obnoxiously loud electonic music and the waiting game of trying to get the attention of the girl you like without chasing her around the club like a lion chasing a ghazelle. Oh and another thing, unless you have a micropenis, bring your own condoms to the clubs in sf. The ones they give out will cut off your circulation. Not trying to flex on my dick size or anything but the session I had with a really cute venezolana in the club was pretty much ruined by this mistake...[/QUOTE]Sorry for your bad experience- I love Santa Fe though-- I consistently get Great sex there-- Good Luck with your other ventures.

While chatting with these girls on WhatsApp do you use a US number or a local number?

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2757647]In my experience unless your Spanish is good and you can go after non pros, than SA is better if you want GFE compared to casas, online escorts, or santa fe. Don't get me wrong. I love all three, but if you like GFE and you are like me, than SA is for thee.

If you just ignore the fake / touched up looking photos, Instagram types, and big / fake boobs. SA in Bogota is awesome and I am finding mostly semi pro to non. I am looking at skinner, usually pretty good to great English (B1 to C1. 5) - And way more than enough of the flaquitas / "curvey" girls I find are either non or semi pro. Of that, most are educated, looking to chill and do things like listening to music before and after and not just have sex. Some are just looking for sex though, and I am good with that too. I also mostly focused on ones that have joined in the last 3-4 months, emphasis on last 2 or less. I don't treat any like hoes any more unless its real crystal clear.

I put quotes around curvey, because curvey is very different compared to US. It does not mean mildly to very obese with massive thighs, legs, and arms. At first, I was filtering that out and it was limiting my results. It often seems what some Latinas are self describing as curvey is our version of slim but with an actual butt. And flaquita is. Well. Flaquita.

When I ignore the non desirable categories (for me) I am finding mostly non to semi pros. You can also get a real good feel from the WhatsApp status updates. If you see family photos and friend fun like parks, dogs, bars & concerts. Pretty good chance they are semi pro to non. Also, two of my favorites had WORSE pictures than the actual in person. Like I was attracted online, but knock out when we meet. Those types tend to wear very frumpy / big cloths too. I roll the dice a bit sometimes and have always been handsomely rewarded.

I have it down where I spend maybe 2 hours ever 2-3 weeks to line up more first meets than I can handle per week. Real good ROI for me both in time and money for the subscription. I tend to spend 2 months there at a time though as a reference point, but with my method I could make the same thing work in a 7-10 day trip now. My Spanish is still not great. Getting better though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mtljay;2757912]While chatting with these girls on WhatsApp do you use a US number or a local number?[/QUOTE]I have a local number.

[QUOTE=Playboy2021;2700965]The Dann Carlton hotel chains across Colombia are total shit and should be avoided at all costs. Took me 5 months and multiple in person visits to receive a $500 refund I was due. Incompetent and terrible customer service.[/QUOTE]Not sure how you let the Hotel get that deep into you. $500 usd but trying to get ANY refund in Colombia / Latin America in general is very difficult. It's almost always much easier to challenge the charge with your bank.

After dozens and dozens and years of trips in Bogota I took my trip on the transMilenio. OMG never again. Last week in Bogota may have been the wettest I've seen in years in Bogota. As most of you know when you need to travel in the city during rush hour it is bad but rush hour +Torrential Rain and it's a nightmare. Taxis and Uber were useless from the Cra 11 why 94 in Chico Norte as traffic was stand still. So we walked to the bus and to the TransMilenio was our fastest option so reluctantly, I agreed. . My girls mom was in the hospital for her kidneys. San Carlos hospital is good distance south of Chico Norte for me and with each stop along the way more and more people pushed their way into the car, to the point there was not room for a news paper between us and they kept pushing their way into the car, to the point I started giving people shit about it. My girl tried to calm me down but I was pissed, to the point we almost couldn't even get out at our stop because everyone was so jammed in. The further you travel south in the system the more crowded it gets because less and less people who live in the south can afford taxis or Uber so the last resort for most are the very dangerous buses and the over crowed TM system. As I'm sure you have seen buses why the TM packed from a distance as they drove by from my view from the taxi but it's a whole different perspective when your in there all the way into the south of Bogota. If it wasn't for her mom in the hospital, I never would have went in the first place, I don't do mass transit. Today she wrote me on WA as I'm back in the states now that shehad a dream we were in the TM together. I told her that was not a dream, that was a nightmare.