Cartagena Reports

What's up bros chiming in from Medellin right now my flight leaves Friday I have been in Medellin for two weeks and this past weekend I was in Cartagena. I don't know if it was from being in Medellin a whole week before I went but Cartagena was overwhelming for one reason. The most and worst thing (I was already warned) is the begging not just vendors but every damn soul in Cartagena. There is not one moment of peace outside of your place that you choose to stay. Getsemani, Clock Tower, the beach, any and every street you walk on day or night it is no peace at all! You can't enjoy yourself because of all the damn begging, the city is beautiful and has all the potential in the world of one of the best places on earth to go but I was completely turned off the entire time I was there. I went to centro both nights Delerium (however you spell it) it was no better 50 million beautiful girls I could not even just chill and pick what I wanted. Little kids not just 3 or 4 like 30 coming up to you and saying "bruh I am hungry" and will not leave you the fuck alone. I asked them all where is your mother at and all of a sudden here comes woman with little infants to help the little kids beg. It is 2 and 3 in the fucking morning bro no CAP shit is crazy. It's girls there man and to each his own but I have been with many chicas in Medellin and walked all over these streets and not saying no one will not ask you for money but it is one or two here and there which is cool. I don't want to shit on the city man the girls are beautiful but they became secondary with all the other bullshit Cartagena offered me. I walked out of the tourist area and walked all over Cartagena the last day I was there and not one person begged me for anything for those 5 or 6 hours I had peace in that city. I am just writing what I experienced it don't mean nothing to the next man. I said I will go again maybe next time will be better. FYI My apartment was guest friendly but I was so exhausted from battling with the begging folks and and vendors I did not even get a chica in Cartagena. Medellin has by far made up for it. That is just my interpretation of the situation.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2680551]What's up bros chiming in from Medellin right now my flight leaves Friday I have been in Medellin for two weeks and this past weekend I was in Cartagena. I don't know if it was from being in Medellin a whole week before I went but Cartagena was overwhelming for one reason. The most and worst thing (I was already warned) is the begging not just vendors but every damn soul in Cartagena. There is not one moment of peace outside of your place that you choose to stay. Getsemani, Clock Tower, the beach, any and every street you walk on day or night it is no peace at all! You can't enjoy yourself because of all the damn begging, the city is beautiful and has all the potential in the world of one of the best places on earth to go but I was completely turned off the entire time I was there. I went to centro both nights Delerium (however you spell it) it was no better 50 million beautiful girls I could not even just chill and pick what I wanted. Little kids not just 3 or 4 like 30 coming up to you and saying "bruh I am hungry" and will not leave you the fuck alone. I asked them all where is your mother at and all of a sudden here comes woman with little infants to help the little kids beg. It is 2 and 3 in the fucking morning bro no CAP shit is crazy. It's girls there man and to each his own but I have been with many chicas in Medellin and walked all over these streets and not saying no one will not ask you for money but it is one or two here and there which is cool. I don't want to shit on the city man the girls are beautiful but they became secondary with all the other bullshit Cartagena offered me. I walked out of the tourist area and walked all over Cartagena the last day I was there and not one person begged me for anything for those 5 or 6 hours I had peace in that city. I am just writing what I experienced it don't mean nothing to the next man. I said I will go again maybe next time will be better..[/QUOTE]I thought it was just me but yep, that "tengo hambre" is the new hola. Endless of that shit no matter where you go, even the chicas saying it jajaja.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2680359]That did not come from PPP, unemployment, or us SEA guys (where it is $30 all night for everything bare). As Nypher alluded to, that is purely the result of Sosua guys branching out.[/QUOTE]I disagree. Also, I'm alluding to prices in Colombia going up. That came from Ppp and new $$.

Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680346]That PPP and unemployment money was the reason prices jacked up big time.

Guys who never came to Colombia were spending 200 usd + on girls from the start.

And with SEA opening back up I'm starting to notice a decline in weekend warriors.

Last time I was in Ctg girls were asking 300 usd at dolce vita. And wouldn't budge at 100 usd for an hour. And all want to do CBJ.

Hilarious!![/QUOTE]When I read comments like this I just have to roll my eyes. I wish the poster would open their eyes and look around.

How many other countries in the world don't suffer from inflation? How many other countries in the world didn't have some type of lockdown or restrictions in place during COVID? How many other industries worldwide have decided that they need to increase prices over-and-above the rate of inflation in order to make up for almost 2 years of lost or severely diminished income?

The answers to the above questions are: none, none and all of them.

But sure, let's blame PPP and unemployment!

Hey, here's a thought. Let's just say that worldwide mongering prices were lower during the reign of Corporal Bone Spurs because he fought to keep prices down. (FYI, the prior sentence was sarcasm.)

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680721]I disagree. Also, I'm alluding to prices in Colombia going up. That came from Ppp and new $$.

Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]I think the price is going up but not all at once. It is like real estate. Usually the above average price areas go up first. If that lasts long enough, the least expensive places will eventually go up. So I think that is why some see it and some don't. You happen to be a buyer in the above average price areas so you observe it first. I heard La Isla and Gusto have double or triple their covers and increase the drink price. That is another example.

Personally I do think there are some government money directly or indrectly. There are many programs, not just PPP. Some need to be earned. If one falls into this category, then he has to take advantage of it to earn money in this period and can't monger actually. Some like you mentioned, don't require work, the ones who qualify will be able to monger.

Tuesday comes around. Dolce girl gets up can't find her panties we're tossing the entire room upside down looking for them but no where to be found, so she leaves wearing a skirt and no panties. I need to clean up and there is makeup all over the sheets. So doing laundry and cleaning up all the hair these chicas leave all over when Chica #8 has a problem. She needs to pay rent and don't have money. I ask her how much she needs she says 500 K, I send it to her and kept cleaning. I hardly left the apartment, and it was a good break just to have time to myself but I couldn't let a day go by without letting out the leche. I message chica #8 and she's still running around says she will come see me tonight if I'm not with a girl, if not she's going to Delirium to work, I tell her get to me by 10 pm or you can go straight to Delirium. I text chica #9 and she's off the rag! I tell her come over for a quick 200 K polvo and she agrees and now I remember this chica, she was the "I'm 30 minutes away from Centro", when in reality she was 1 hour and 15 minutes away. I give her the location and she send me her live location, she's coing from waaaaay out there by Centro Comerical Paseo de La Castellana, but I now understand Colombian Chica time, always multiple by 3 whatever timeframe they give you. Time flew I didn't even realize it was around 7 pm and I told her to come, she get to me around 8:30 and we go straight to dinner because I was so busy cleaning I had zero thoughts of food for the whole day. We finish up around 9:30 then head to the apartment, to chill, just then Chica #8 sends me her live location, she's on her way and making record time to beat her deadline. Fuck! I can't flake on her and I can't get a quick leche in. I tell chica #9 tonight isn't going a planned and handed her 250 k, 200 k for the agreed amount and an extra 50 k for the inconvenience of having her come all the way out here and round trip taxi, then tell her my amiga will be here any moment and she's welcome to stay and hang out but we we cannot do anything, she's cool with it and Chica #8 shows up at 9:59, buzzer beater. I let her in, introductions are made they start talking and laughing. Chica #8 knows I have allot of chicas and plays it cool but Chica #9 is starting to understand. About an hour of hanging out and Chica #9 leaves. Chica #8 starts joking around asking if chica #9 took all the leche, I couldn't even say much and just laugh and she know me by now jajaja then comes the Tengo hambre, gave her the phone tell her grab whatever from Rappi and its another wait. She gets the food we start drinking and I don't even remember what happened as it was now 10 am and I was waking up in the bed with her on top of me and that's when I saw Dolce girl panties hanging off the ceiling fan SMH.

Wednesday.

I get out the bed and leave her in it, shower up and ask her if she wants breakfast, of course "tengo hambre" order in, we finish eating then she disappears, I find her in the bed knocked out cold and she was there till about 4 pm just sleeping. I tell her I'm ready to head out and she she decides to head home and change to get ready for work. Calls her taxi and leaves dint ask for taxi money or anything.

Chica#11 finally send me an hola and she's off the rag! A new one I've been dying to test out since she's super petite with some big tits that doesn't need a bra. Perky! I tell her to come over and what do you know same shit as chica #9, she's also coming from all the way out there in the same area and by the way her live location was looking it looks like she took a moto to the bus terminal, then took the bus close to Centro then took a taxi to me. Damn! Now I'm feeling bad for the 200 K GFE offer. She get here and just like her photos, strips down, and those tits were just as I imagined perky, natural 20 year old. We get to talking and she's a waitress at a coffee shop, she doesn't do this often but can use the extra money. We get to the bedroom, great GFE and we get to talk some more after. She's funny and now gives me a different mindset as I have not gone to the clubs to look for chicas since I got here on this trip and its been quite peaceful of not having to constantly negotiate while she knows she have others that will pay a higher because they don't know any better. Cute and she never once said tengo Hambre jaja. Gave her 250 K and send her on her way, will definitely be seeing her more before I go.

Dolce chica messages me, I completely forgot were supposed to meet up tonight. We shoot for 10 pm she gets to me, I give her the panties, she wants to know where they were, I didn't even want to explain. We head out grab food and drinks then she had the bright idea for us to go to Dolce since I have not been to the clubs yet. We walk in there's black and gold balloons everywhere and what looks like lots of Indians, there's this one table against the wall under the TV with a bunch of guys who start throwing stacks of 2 K bills in the air. The girls jumping on the floor scrambling to pick the bills up and I just shake my head as this is what I didn't want around me. Were chilling and just when I thought it was over these guys pull put a gold money gun SMH! More bills in the air, some land on us and my chica grabs them, must have been about 10 of them, she then hands them to a girl behind her. I ask her why didn't she keep them, she said she don't need it as she's with me and they need it more since they are not with a guy, it will be taxi money for them to get home. Makes sense. I then ask her if these were the Indians who was getting hit for $600 a night because they are ordering bottles of brown Don Julio, and other bottles as well, she said no, these are the Arabs, they are always here, lots of drinking, drugs, but only want to pay the girls $60 to $80 so she never goes with them, also they will want the girl to sleep with all of them which she do not do. Midnight comes, confetti, 50 cent birthday song and more bills are thrown in the air SMH. I had enough I told her were leaving. Back to the apartment more GFE and I just pass out from tonight disappointment. Woke up the next morning to a message from another Dolce girl who I was talking to, I forgot I handed her my phone when I was talking to her. She took a video of the money throwing with my phone and wants it. Now I'm lost to what she's talking about. I look through my phone and sure enough there's a video of them throwing money SMH.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680721]Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]What are Sosua guys paying? I am a Sosua vet from when it was 1000 pesos all night and it did not even need to be discussed. I have sat and talked with guys in Sosua that were proud of giving chicks $100 for short time. That is when my Sosua days ended and you started to see even the worst chicks in Sosua say $100 papi. This was years before covid and PPP.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2680753]When I read comments like this I just have to roll my eyes. I wish the poster would open their eyes and look around.

How many other countries in the world don't suffer from inflation?[/QUOTE]Exactly! It seems you are seeing things the same as I am. As I always say, in the last 14 years of living in Thailand my rent has been the same 4500 baht ($135) per month, taxi from the airport the same 1000 baht ($30) for an hour and a half ride, and I am still giving chicks 1000 baht ($30) for all night. And the same hotel and taxi prices and amount for chicks in Philippines in the 13 years I have been going there as well.

There is only one reason for chick prices in Latin America to have busted out of the roof, and it is not inflation. Because when you check out the places that locals go, the prices have not changed much. You only find this "inflation" with places or chicks that gringos frequent.

Another poster took me to a spot in Bogota where you pay 50,000 pesos to enter and you can fuck 4 chicks for 20 minutes each. Somebody must have forgotten to tell that place about inflation.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680721]I disagree. Also, I'm alluding to prices in Colombia going up. That came from Ppp and new $$.

Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]I believe prices went up because we have mongers traveling from big cities where they are accustomed to pay $300 an hour for something they like so when they come to CTG, $300 for the night is like bargain bin basement. Sometimes I laugh when I see these guys proudly walking out of Delirium holding hands with something that look like an overweight ostrich but that's what he likes and that's what he's paying for.

I top out at 600 K for the night or she can kick rocks. I find allot of the mongers who are having price problems are the ones who never explored beyond Dolce, Space, Delirium, Clocktower and Hollywood Beach.

I'm done with those places and this trip have proved to myself what I wanted to test. All my Tinders have been below 300 K. Many have regular jobs and / or students and just need extra money. They aren't walking the street or working the clubs so they aren't trying to take everything out of a gringos pocket.

Also it helps when they know you. I'm here for weeks at a time, weekend warriors who just pop in and pop out will get market rate.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2680802]I think the price is going up but not all at once. It is like real estate. Usually the above average price areas go up first. If that lasts long enough, the least expensive places will eventually go up. So I think that is why some see it and some don't. You happen to be a buyer in the above average price areas so you observe it first. I heard La Isla and Gusto have double or triple their covers and increase the drink price. That is another example.

Personally I do think there are some government money directly or indrectly. There are many programs, not just PPP. Some need to be earned. If one falls into this category, then he has to take advantage of it to earn money in this period and can't monger actually. Some like you mentioned, don't require work, the ones who qualify will be able to monger.[/QUOTE]I have not pulled girls from Gustos in a long time. The quality there is horrible now.

But my friend asked a girl her price and her starting point was 300 usd.

The same for Dolce Vida. Only diff was there was a few decent ones there and when I was actually considering one girl I asked for a BBBJ she said she doesn't do that ever. And her price was 300 usd. I couldn't help but laugh.

This was in December of last year.

I don't believe these prices will last simply because the weekend warriors and "fake ballers" with that ppp money will not be around anymore.

That and SEA opening back will hurt the girls pockets and eventually they'll have to come back down to earth.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2680753]When I read comments like this I just have to roll my eyes. I wish the poster would open their eyes and look around.

How many other countries in the world don't suffer from inflation? How many other countries in the world didn't have some type of lockdown or restrictions in place during COVID? How many other industries worldwide have decided that they need to increase prices over-and-above the rate of inflation in order to make up for almost 2 years of lost or severely diminished income?

The answers to the above questions are: none, none and all of them.

But sure, let's blame PPP and unemployment!

Hey, here's a thought. Let's just say that worldwide mongering prices were lower during the reign of Corporal Bone Spurs because he fought to keep prices down. (FYI, the prior sentence was sarcasm.)[/QUOTE]To be clear the PPP and unemployment money that I'm referring to was the new found wealth many people found and decided to come to Colombia to become new ballers for pretty girls.

Which is what made many girls hold out and up their prices.

Has nothing to do with inflation.

What happened was many new mongers with this new found wealth from govt money went balls out on average looking girls. Word got around and other girls joined the party.

I think Cartagena and Medellin working girls benefited from this most.

Almost every girl from dolce vita that I spoke to was from either medellin or Bogota.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680895]I have not pulled girls from Gustos in a long time. The quality there is horrible now.

But my friend asked a girl her price and her starting point was 300 usd.

The same for Dolce Vida. Only diff was there was a few decent ones there and when I was actually considering one girl I asked for a BBBJ she said she doesn't do that ever. And her price was 300 usd. I couldn't help but laugh.

This was in December of last year.

I don't believe these prices will last simply because the weekend warriors and "fake ballers" with that ppp money will not be around anymore.

That and SEA opening back will hurt the girls pockets and eventually they'll have to come back down to earth.[/QUOTE]It's just a way to explain the different observations people have. You don't have to be in a specific place to see it because you can observe it somewhere else.

If your in CTG avoid a petite Venezuelan with a large snake tattoo on her left forearm with the head of the snake pointing to her wrist. Caught her when I noticed she was in too much of a hurry to put her clothes back on as none of my chicas ever get dressed that fast and nervously.

When we got to the room she wanted to be paid upfront (I should have kicked her out right here) and with the usual 500 K I keep in my pocket I counted out the agreed 200 K and gave it to her and put the rest of the money in my pants. Turned to plug in my phone and that's all the time she needed. She put the 200 K on the nightstand where I can see it and hid the 300 K in her clothes during the activity, then after, when she was rapidly getting dressed shoved it in her asscrack. Confronted her about it which she denied but I knew she had it. Had to put her out.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680898]To be clear the PPP and unemployment money that I'm referring to was the new found wealth many people found and decided to come to Colombia to become new ballers for pretty girls.

Which is what made many girls hold out and up their prices.

Has nothing to do with inflation.

What happened was many new mongers with this new found wealth from govt money went balls out on average looking girls. Word got around and other girls joined the party.

I think Cartagena and Medellin working girls benefited from this most.

Almost every girl from dolce vita that I spoke to was from either medellin or Bogota.[/QUOTE]PPP (Paycheck Protection Program) money (assuming someone who owned a business used the money legitimately) could not be used that way. "NBER analysis of PPP found that 75% of PPP funds went to business owners, shareholders, creditors, and suppliers and roughly 25% to workers who would have otherwise lost their jobs. " Furthermore, "NBER found that about 75% of PPP funds went to the top 20% of households by income. " And "PPP funds were paid to businesses that used the funds to pay retained and previously unemployed workers. Roughly 25% of PPP loan funds were used for that purpose. Of the remaining 75% of funds, creditors who would not have been paid also became beneficiaries. " [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/where-ppp-money-went-5216725[/URL]#text=PPP%20 funds%20 were%20 paid%20 to, been%20 paid%20 also%20 became%20 beneficiaries.

Perhaps you meant "stimulus money" instead of PPP. Wow, that $1,400 would have gone a long way (sarcasm). And "unemployment"? Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers.

But just keep believing what you want to believe. Don't let what happened in the [B]real world[/B] influence your thinking. Smh.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2681090]PPP (Paycheck Protection Program) money (assuming someone who owned a business used the money legitimately) could not be used that way. "NBER analysis of PPP found that 75% of PPP funds went to business owners, shareholders, creditors, and suppliers and roughly 25% to workers who would have otherwise lost their jobs. " Furthermore, "NBER found that about 75% of PPP funds went to the top 20% of households by income. " And "PPP funds were paid to businesses that used the funds to pay retained and previously unemployed workers. Roughly 25% of PPP loan funds were used for that purpose. Of the remaining 75% of funds, creditors who would not have been paid also became beneficiaries. " [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/where-ppp-money-went-5216725[/URL]#text=PPP%20 funds%20 were%20 paid%20 to, been%20 paid%20 also%20 became%20 beneficiaries.

Perhaps you meant "stimulus money" instead of PPP. Wow, that $1,400 would have gone a long way (sarcasm). And "unemployment"? Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers.

But just keep believing what you want to believe. Don't let what happened in the [B]real world[/B] influence your thinking. Smh.[/QUOTE]You would be surprised how many of these fake ballers I know who still live at home with their mom rent free still have their cellphone on their moms family plan. Failure to launch syndrome. I know many who did PPP fraud claiming to be barbers even though they weren't just to get money. Same with stimulus money, knew some that quit their jobs to get unemployment because it paid higher than their minimum wage job only to realize they can't get unemployment if they quit and can only get it for being laid off / fired.

Just an observation from my view. I live in NJ and in NYC daily, you cannot believe the amount of fraud to get government money to ball out on over here. I can get into the bums who move into a girl Section A apartment he agrees to pay her rent because it's little to him. The one who take their name of their moms project apartment so rent is only 30% of her income alone meanwhile they still live there. Upper east side rent control apartment passed down in the family sublet out at market rate meanwhile they live in Florida.

I'm just watching them ball out because once they reach that 40 and 50 it will catch up with them.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2681090]... Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers..[/QUOTE]I am not 100% sure either way. I think it is $300/ week for many states, plus the stimulus money. I know several expats who don't live is US receive stimulus money. Not everyone receive the money is poor, even a very small percentage can have an impact but I guess they are not likely to pay US $300.