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Help!
Gentlemen,
I am having one bad go-go dancer after another here. Is it just me or have others noticed that the girls seem so much more jaded and nasty? No GFE, etc. For example, a dancer last night went with me even though she knew she was on her period. I asked her before hand if she was on her period and she said no. (I asked because she was standing outside the go-go as a tout)
Soi 6 not the same as last year either.
Also there doesn't seem to be any of the "nicer" GFE type BG's at the beer-bars either.
So that my trip doesn't end a complete disaster; can anyone recommend a go-go with at least somewhat honest and decent mamasans and pretty dancers? Suggestions for other types of bars also welcomed.
Current information only please.
Thanks!
p.s. In Bangkok I did not have this problem. The girls seemed much nicer and treated me well.
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Swimming With the Sharks
this is what happened to me within the first 2 weeks that i got here. it is all about 2 months old now so maybe things have changed. this is also to forewarn unsuspecting adventurers on what might happen to your wallet if you are a love struck puppy who falls for cute thai girls.
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my date with n--
i saw n-- at the black and white club on walking street (she has since moved on) when i was going to buy some things. she is/was totally beautiful. cute as a button. gorgeous dark hair done up real sexy with flyaways. excellent body. beautiful face. lovely smile. fine ass too. i saw her and my mouth dropped. i immediately went up to her and asked what's up. i told her wait a moment and i will be back and please don't go with anybody in the next 3 minutes (i was shaking because she is that hot). anyway i got back and she was there. started to negotiate. she said 2000 for long time. at that time it seemed like the bargain of a lifetime. i immediately laid two bills on her (big mistake to pay upfront! ) and said lets go.
off we went to my pad and i ate her and boffed her real quick and dirty. she is/was stacked but her breasts were a bit underdeveloped. no matter. i am boffing a trophy thai. so that was that. 15-20 minutes of fun for 2000.
since we were hooked up for long time she didn't really know what to do. i think she was a bit shy and unsure of herself and quite taken with me and happy to be sealed up for a long time. but she suggested we go to alcazar where she used to work before the b&w. she is/was not that confident in herself so she made an easy suggestion for her. so me being clueless and easy going i agreed.
we showed up at alcazar. which actually turned out to be the triangle supper club next door. we sat down and the place had all the feel of a g-club (which i detest). a bottle of johnny walker. with mixers and ice magically appears along with n---'s former supervisor who is a queer thai guy passing himself off as straight. we sit and talk and laugh and dance around and have a good time while she and the supervisor start drinking heavily. i am not drinking because i don't like it.
so they get hammered. finally the bill comes. it' is almost 3000 for all this sh-t that i never really wanted. no matter for me because i am hooked on n-- (who is now ripped 3 sheets to the wind). the bar closes and we all go to the outdoor restaurant next to triangle. suddenly a gang of thais from the club appear and we all eat and they say "free" but stick me with the bill at the end. another 750. none of this would have happened if n-- wasn't super cute and these were her friends and co-workers. but i was baited and hooked.
by now i am losing my patience. we get a free ride home from the workers (gee thanks) and she proceeds to puke all night. big fun.
next day i ditch her after she continues this charade of wasting my money. i just flat out walked away and left her at a bar talking with her friend. she called me many times but she can screw a dead horse for all i care.
since this episode she went back to work at 'alcazar' so be forewarned.
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supeskank
oh how the mighty have fallen.
i used to love supergirls. crazy crazy true love. all that changed this time. my misery started with the dark haired spunky beauty with the great breasts.
i have had a crush on her for over 1 1/2 years. i was obsessed with taking her last trip but miss t-- was always there watching over me so i could not. i had to be consoled with smacking her naked ass when she was standing in the hot tub.
well, i finally fined her. she demanded a shorty because she didn't want to ride out to my swanky smooth pad in naklua. she insisted on the dreaded short time hotel on walking street. and the session was an utter nightmare. she was not into it. not into me.complaining the whole time. nitpicking me and criticizing me and sticking her nose up in the air despite me pouring my heart out to her. explaining how i had loved her for so long. how her breasts are perfect. how she is truely gorgeous and the most beautiful girl in thailand and maybe the world. how i am crazy about her and want to fine her again and again forever (and by gawd i brought enough cash to do it this time). all this elicited a big yawn from her. a real buzzkill. i was trying to f-k her but it was like f-king a moosetrap with big steely spikes ripping my dik to shreds. this was all too much and i couldn't keep it up. i was devastated. she even asked for a tip which i stupidly gave. i walked her back to the club but didn't go in. i felt like i had been raped.
i was firmly committed to never seeing that byotch again.
but i could not keep myself out of supergirls. i went back a few days later (maybe the next day i don't remember). i went late and sat close to the stage and watched the dancers. one young cute girl with braces, short red hair and still packing the baby fat caught my eye. i went crazy and stuck a 100 in her see thru dress. she was pleasantly shocked and imploringly said "me? ". yes of course you honey.
again she demanded the short time hotel. jeez what's up does the supergirl boss own the hotel too? we marched down walking street and had a less than impressive session. she's naive and unexperienced. but still cute and lovely in her own way. but not very exciting. she recoiled in horror from me when i explained some things about my life. ugh! more depressing fun. then just like the dark hair girl she demanded "tip tip" at the end. in retrospect she was a total drag. cute to look at but a genuine lamer and waste of time and money.
the last straw for me was lovely miss g--. i returned to supergirls with the full intention of scoring with lovely miss #4x. a real scorching stunner with monster boobs who sent my brain reeling the previous times i had seen her.
but all that changed when i went back to supergirls at 8pm for the opening bell. i was just sitting waiting for #4x to appear. she was no where to be seen. so i ordered an oj and just killed time sitting at the stage watching pussy parade before me. then i turned around and saw g--. she was standing butt ass naked in the hot tub. she was like a white skin fire ball with a beautiful smiling face, a perfect body, small lovely breasts, just radiating pure beauty and sexuality. my brain started melting, my eyes were on fire and i turned to a puddle of jello right there.
the fact that the girl was butt ass naked and tricking in supergirls is/was a total crime. she needs to be on the cover of maxim or at least married to a multi millionaire and living in the east hamptons. but there she was killing me softly.
i tried to keep my cool even though i was losing it.
i immediately traded my seat so i could sit next to the hot tub and get a better look at the princess. i was of the mind right there to fine her..-#4x be damned.
but to my shock and astonishment some asian dude sitting next to the door (why does this always happen to me) calls her over. and i watch in stunned amazement as she steps out of the hot tub and puts on one of the little see thru dresses to hide her modesty (ha), slips her feet into a cute pair of flip flops and strolls over to talk with the guy. oi! sh-t! i was killing myself now. if by god he didn't fine her i was hell bent on fining her as soon as she came back.
well she did come back after about 10 minutes. she was stepping back into the hot tub and i immediately popped a 100 into the tip jar to get her attention and to let her know i was interested. but the dude fined her with the wait staff as she was walking over. and my hopes were dashed as i watched her go to the back and return dressed as the cutest stylish little thai princess i have ever seen. my stomach dropped as i watched her walk out.
i looked up to see #4x take the stage and she looked at me like she had seen me before and knew i had come for her. she seemed to say "what's up? aren't you going to fine me or what? ".
but i was devastated. i had just seen the perfect angel and i had to have her. i left in a mess vowing to return.
(moral = don't be shy. when you see the girl you like you need to jump)
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and return i did the next day at 7:30 i took a seat at the revolving bar and waited for the supergirl doors to open.
i went in and saw her naked in the tub. i immediately tipped big so she knew i was not bullshitting. a few seconds later we were out the door headed for the dreaded short time hotel. i told her i thought she was soooooo beautiful. i was crazy about her.
we talked and talked and she said to me that if some guy would marry her she would quit working. i said wow maybe i could do that because you are drop dead gorgeous. but i just met you miss sweetness.
so we did a session. kind of a yawner except for the fact that i was popping a super effing hottie from another planet. then back to the club. i didn't realize it at the time but it was rushed. she was speeding through it and hoofing it back to the club to hitch up with who knows.
next day i went back late around 10pm and ms. g-- was not there.
(already out)
next next day i was back again at 8pm and repeated the process.
another yawner speed freak session. then clopping back to the club.
the third day was the first leg of my tribute to the goddess of pussy day. so i started at 8pm to snatch ms. g before anybody else could get her. rinse and repeat.
i could not have had a more mechanical boring lifeless, emotionless, clueless cold session if i had been living in a nightmare.
her pussy was farting and it f-king stank. but sort of a putrid stink where she had doused her unwashed ass and gaping hole with perfume before going to work. kind of reminded me of my old dead great aunt. whoa baby.. it looks like you don't give a rat's ass about things working out. i was more than a little disappointed. she sent me an sms a few days later "here's my number. you come see me? "
where? at super girl so we can go to the short time hotel and let you rip me off again. dream on. and that was that.
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now let's skip over to superbaby.
i went to this joint several times to check the talent. it's not bad. one chick #x6 has my mind reeling. i watched the other really really cute chick #12 from here for many days and even saw her getting food on walking street at 3am after work one night when she said hi to me. one day in the club i finally broke down and called her over to talk. we were in the middle of a conversation when she suddenly looked away at another dude who had just come in. she looked visibly agitated and uninterested in me. so i said go for it baby. she split and hooked up with this guy and out the door they went. what's up? just when i am about to bite she has better things to do. ok well barf on you too.
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now the other weird thing about this go go is that east asian dudes. like korean and japanese. bring their wives or girlfriends in here. great entertainment for sure. almost as good as karaoke.
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ok enough complaining. the good thing is that since living in this city i have turned into a total dog. i got my hands on #x6 in the club and lifted her see-thru dress to check out her ass which is white and buffed and perfectly cute. oh, i got in trouble with the mama san for this. she doesn't want such lewd shenanigans going on here. ha! what ever. do you know what goes on in every other gogo in pattaya? i will go back for #x6 before i am out of here
but there is no denying that the vibe in these clubs is totally mercenary, mechanical and materialistic. if that is your thing then do it. they sound coached to ask for the tip tip. the girls are not very friendly and their so-called "performance" sucks. yes you can find this phenomenon in other go gos, but here it seems to have been elevated to a kind of religion. i was so disappointed that i could barf.
so i never went back and i am not really interested in going back. sure there are plenty of cute girls here but you can have them.
i see so many guys acting the fool in gogos. when you swim with the sharks you might get eaten. be forewarned.
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[QUOTE=Beavercleaver] When you swim with the sharks you might get eaten. Be forewarned.
[/QUOTE] You are such a patient man but hopefully you will heed your own warning on your future visits. Many of these girls will interpret your kindness for weakness which is why some guys are so business-like with them and guys like you who go ga-ga over them get burnt. The girls are evaluating you from the moment you walk in to their clubs and your actions does play a large role in how they treat you.
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[QUOTE=Beavercleaver]...I see so many guys acting the fool in gogos. When you swim with the sharks you might get eaten. Be forewarned...[/QUOTE]
Gee... sorry about all your frustrating problems with the cuties.
Hope you don't mind if I ask you a couple of personal questions ...
Do you have a tattoo on your forehead?
Does it say: "loser"?
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[QUOTE=Monopoly]Is it just me or have others noticed that the girls seem so much more jaded and nasty?[/QUOTE]Pattaya girls definitely seem to have gotten even tougher and more business-like over the past couple years. Maybe especially right now, at the start of the high season, when there's a big influx of very commercial girls. Still I've managed to find a few real sweeties over the past week, generally either the brand new ones or the slightly older (25+) ones. The go-gos tend to be the worst for attitude but some of the smaller, out of the way places can be pretty good fun. One that I like is Silver Star 2 on Soi 7.
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[QUOTE=Betong]...One that I like is Silver Star 2 on Soi 7.[/QUOTE]I agree. I was there recently and it was a blast. The girls are fun, and pretty much anything goes. I barfined Oi and had a great time.
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A little better
Hey guys,
It got a little better last night. I BF an 18 y/o cutie from a go-go off W.S. and she was very good.
But I want to know if I paid "over the top" or not. I don't want to ruin the market for others.
She asked for and got 2000B for LT. We were together maybe 12 hours.
Should I have asked for 1500 LT?
Thanks for any advice.
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[QUOTE=Monopoly]Should I have asked for 1500 LT?[/QUOTE]Nah. Not even worth worrying about.
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[QUOTE=Monopoly]...Should I have asked for 1500 LT?
Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]
2000 is the right price for a go-go girl LT.
Many of them will ask for more.
Glad you had a good time.
Regards,
Daddy
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Airport Opportunity
Just a quick note to say that closing the airport has been a godsend. Pussy prices have tanked and bareback is an option for those of you into it. Rents have to be paid as the end of the month arrives. Good work, protesters.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]2000 is the right price for a go-go girl LT.
Many of them will ask for more.
Glad you had a good time.
Regards,
Daddy[/QUOTE]When I was in Angel Witch this past summer, all the girls would quote 3000 LT and would not budge. Are prices different at various go-go's?
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[QUOTE=Beavercleaver]....
But there is no denying that the vibe in these clubs is totally mercenary, mechanical and materialistic. If that is your thing then do it. They sound coached to ask for the Tip Tip. The girls are not very friendly and their so-called "performance" SUCKS. Yes you can find this phenomenon in other go gos, but here it seems to have been elevated to a kind of religion. I was so disappointed that I could barf.
SO I never went back and I am not really interested in going back. Sure there are plenty of cute Girls here but you can have them.
I see so many guys acting the fool in gogos. When you swim with the sharks you might get eaten. Be forewarned.[/QUOTE]
Your description sounds as if this was your fist time in Pattaya and perhaps your fist time in Thailand too. It sounds to me like this because I've had some similar misadventures in Pattaya when I went there for the first time in my life years ago.
But I went back to Pattaya again despite some of my fist-time disappointments. And my subsequent experiences with the ladies got better, because I've learned to choose my ladies more carefully and more wisely.
One lesson I've learned was that the best-looking and the most-popular lady at the Go-Go bar is not necessarily the best one to go with. Because she gets so much attention from men that quite often she doesn't value them. She can always get another man.
The only exception to this rule might be at the beer-bars. Some good-looking ladies from Isaan sometimes come to Pattaya in search of a good man that they hope to marry. And they usually end up working at the beer bars from a few weeks to a few years, until they do find their man. I don't know what their success rate is. But it probably depends on how attractive they are. And some of them do find their men. Because I've met some of these married men, when I've spent some time in Isaan.
But you also need to consider cultural differences and possible cultural misunderstandings that can happen. Some of what you've described is considered normal among Thais. Although you didn't see it as normal behavior.
Such as when you took the good-looking lady to Alcazar, where she worked before and where she had a lot of friends. You were the rich guy, as far as they were all concerned. Because only a rich guy takes out a good-looking lady the way you did. And the fact that you went with her to visit her friends naturally meant to them that you wanted to treat them all in celebration of your good friendship with the lady.
You didn't see it that way, of course. But due to cultural differences, your lady probably couldn't understand what went wrong between you and her. And that's why she kept calling you.
When you go to another country and meet people from another culture. Then you've got to expect big differences from what you are used to. And you have to be careful not to misunderstand cultural differences as bad experiences. Because when it's a misunderstanding only, then it might mean that the good-looking lady really does like you. But she doesn't understand that you don't understand.
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I don't understand...
[QUOTE=Dan7373] But she doesn't understand that you don't understand.[/QUOTE]
Every now and then something is said that prompts me to reflect on things that have happened to me in Thailand. And in Thailand this is so so so true.
I have a regular friend in Bangkok, for several years now. Early on we would get into this spiral (i would call it a death spiral) of an argument over - nothing! I'd be sitting there trying to work out just what was she on about! Soon enough i realised that quite often it was just misunderstanding each other. It was all about either me not understanding what she was on about, or she didn't understand what i was on about. (the death spiral argument is when both have no idea) We could even be fighting about two totally unrelated things !!!!!!
So i came up with this system where at some point either one of us would say "Hold on. Be careful. I think this is misunderstand." We don't even say who is misunderstand. But this statement is clearly understood by her (and me) to mean something is not right.
Then we both stop, take a deep breath, and try and make sure we are on the right track. Generally the stop and breath part is enough to stop the spiral.
Still argue from time to time but generally not terminal arguments.
Ozirob
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D7:
Beavercleaver must be joking. He's just getting people's wind up. Probably an alter-ego of someone else on here.
I think the posts are funny, but they do get repetitive. Skip em but dont waste any figurative breath. You'd be fighting a scarecrow.
PH
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Gee... sorry about all your frustrating problems with the cuties.
Hope you don't mind if I ask you a couple of personal questions ...
Do you have a tattoo on your forehead?
Does it say: "loser"?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Poonhound69]...I think the posts are funny, ...PH[/QUOTE]
I think his posts are funny too.
It is apparent to me that this guy loves to have young pretty girls dominate and humiliate him. He gets off on it.
We all have our own harmless fetishes. He'll have no trouble satisfying his in Pattaya. More power to him.