Manila

[QUOTE=Socker;1571626]As for my experience in the PI, Cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. The only problem is they will not go w / westerners [/QUOTE]Hmm I've never had a problem with Cebuanas and I am also a butterfly in Manila. So many choices, so little time!

[QUOTE=DCups;1571647]Hmm I've never had a problem with Cebuanas and I am also a butterfly in Manila. So many choices, so little time![/QUOTE]Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1571652]Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]You're probably right, Ikks. I have seen those types of bargirls, too. I mostly go with DIAs. It's hit-and-miss but lots of hits. Wicked Roger sent me some nice referrals, too.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1571652]Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Of course it's a K problem. On one hand they seem harmless and non demanding of the ladies (exception, the line up where ever they go, LOL).

But if K bars discriminate against girls who go w / westerners thus discouraging fair and equal treatment (in their bars) of all mongers then they are scu*.

The latter is what I think is happening but I am not 100% sure.

If it is so and K bars discriminate against ladies that go w/ westerners then WTF? What can be done? Probably nothing.

But yes I have been HEAVILY discriminated against by Cebu bar girls, the really hot ones. AC on a much smaller scale since there is nothing much available in AC.

Plan B is what I end up with in Cebu or AC, Manila on the other hand was a nice surprise.

AC is almost worthless so let the K's have it, haha, (jk). I love that place, wouldn't mind being buried there.

[quote=socker;1571626]i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.

what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.

i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.

when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet![/quote]i too had a great time at bottoms bar. the girl i picked up there in april gave me the best sessions of my recent trip. not only was she hot, but she had a real personality. she was, for lack of a better word, hip, so taking her out of the bar lt was better than being with any sweet province girl i had in ac or subic. the sex was wild and she was very gfe. it was those in between sex times when i could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all the other pinay bar girls i had this last trip. the sex was great plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword. she was upbeat. there was no torch song about how a former boyfriend knocked her up and left her. she told me she had several international bf's who had taken to bali, singapore, bangkok and phuket. she spoke about those places with knowledge and understanding. she wanted to show me around makati at night. unfortunately i met her on my last 2 days of the trip so we did not have time for hitting the club scene. we will do that next time for sure.

the barfine at bottoms is crazy. my girl admitted as much and she plans to see me next time outside of her bar. she knows they hurt her bottom line. the lady drinks are subtracted from the barfine, but i still managed to spend a bundle in the bar. who cares when the quality is this good. she was worth 5 perimeter road rice farmer's daughters.

don't write off edsa entertainment complex. cotton club has some lookers.

as for the havana cafe, imho the selection is not much better than la cafe. if you are nearby it is always worth a look, but don't count on finding anyone special.

as good as the selection was at bottoms, there are places with even higher quality girls. i call these places the international bars. i am talking about places in pasay like the bay (formerly known as aen) , universe girl club, lala land, and liberty island. they are expensive no doubt, but the quality is most definitely here.

so i agree with you that manila has the best looking bar girls in the pi. if you click with one, you won't be sorry. on my next trip, i am planning on spending a lot more time in makati and i will probably cut down my ac time to 2 or 3 nights or drop it entirely.

socker,

thanks for the great report.

what i like about it:

you cite specific locations in manila for the action.

you give a great comparison between manila, cebu and ac. i didn't know cebu had the hottest girls. but is that strictly bar and working girls or are you talking about the native population of cebu?

i also had no idea ac is getting worst!

[quote=socker;1571626]i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.

what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.

overall i will never go back to the pi in the summer months, it was just toooo fucking hot! otherwise i liked manila for it's own personality and makati was perfect for a manila beginner. i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.

when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet!

the comparison to the "new ac" is manila has the prettier women easily. manila compared to cebu, cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners imo. but every manila beauty (except one from bottoms, i knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. every lady i talked to in manila was happy to go w / me. conversely in ac the very few beauties i could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. out of a thousand ladies i saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. i would say (for me) ac has 5% that are doable.

on my first trip to ac in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. the "new ac" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. the one thing ac still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady. i found a dark skinned beauty w / a perfect spinner body. we spent a few days together at the pool and just bar hopping around, she was happy w / a thou per night but i gave her more. i found her at the atlantis bar. this kind of experience was not available in the big city but i guess if one does the dia thing you can do quite nicely in manila w/ longer connections w/ the lady. manila would be a harder place to stay w/ one gal though.

as for my experience in the pi, cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. the only problem is they will not go w / westerners and so you are likely to be played by these spoiled bar sluts. i didn't have this problem in manila and the talent was plenty fine. so that's my disjointed tr but it's the best i can do right now only having been back in the usa 18 hours. life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. i had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. keep an eye on the photo gallery. cheers...[/quote]

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1571860] she had a real personality. She was, for lack of a better word, hip, so It was those in between sex times when I could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword.[/QUOTE]Did she happen to have any hip, cosmopolitan city girl suggestions for cheap hotels that you could relate to?

[QUOTE=Socker;1571626] Life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. I had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. Keep an eye on the photo gallery. Cheers...[/QUOTE]Great report, Bro Socker! Nice to meet you and now? PPD? Means Post Philippine Depression?

Cheers Mate!

About 5% doable girls in Angeles City is about right.

I did barfine a good-looking young girl from Atlantis, only to be screwed by her.

Girls in Manilla are much better-looking, nice, sweet, gentle, sexy, with good attitudes. One of the young girls I took from LA Cafe was horny, she was literally fucking my brains out...hehe.

[QUOTE=Socker;1571626]I just got back from my 5th PI trip and hung in Manila half the time, the other half in AC.

The comparison to the "NEW AC" is Manila has the prettier women easily. Manila compared to Cebu, Cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners IMO. BUT every Manila beauty (except one from Bottoms, I knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. Every lady I talked to in Manila was happy to go w / me. Conversely in AC the very few beauties I could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. Out of a thousand ladies I saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. I would say (for me) AC has 5% that are doable.

On my first trip to AC in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. The "NEW AC" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. The one thing AC still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1572077]Did she happen to have any hip, cosmopolitan city girl suggestions for cheap hotels that you could relate to?[/QUOTE]I didn't ask her about her hotel recommendations although I am sure she has been in many of the finer ones. I was staying at the Fairmont which was new to her. I think it met with her approval. LOL.

She did tell me she shares a one bedroom apartment with three other girls in Makati. I didn't have the time to go see it.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1572411]I was staying at the Fairmont which was new to her. I think it met with her approval. LOL..[/QUOTE]Nothing stimulating like when you bring your date back to your hotel room and she says she's been there in that room before. Most of them aren't smart enough to not tell you.

Have not been to Philippines in 6 yrs. One thing I found very irritating was that there was no Philippine bank I could walk into and purchase Pisos with my VISA debit card, which is common procedure at most Thai banks. My only option was to use Citibank ATMS and pay a transaction fee. Are there other options?

[QUOTE=Ekspat;1572334]Great report, Bro Socker! Nice to meet you and now? PPD? Means Post Philippine Depression?

Cheers Mate![/QUOTE]Hi Ekspat,

Yeah, when you travel solo all the time it is really great to sit down with a cool dude and have a cold one. I enjoyed our short time watching the heat go by, haha, it was so hot you could actually see it, maybe I was heat sick, I don't remember, haha?? Hope you had fun later on that night. The little cherubic Bottom's girl and I had a fabulous time, in the bars and in the room. But being it was my last night I wanted more and so I heavily participated in the Burgos St (Zoo) scene for hours.

I finally found the big titted bar girl at 2 am and by then I was no good for anything. Should of quit while I was ahead w / the one I brought by the bar to meet you. Oh well, now I'm back in the REAL world and it gets harder and harder to accept, I'll find a way till the next trip.

Thanks for that beer, I hope there's another time when I can reciprocate.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1572064]Socker,

Thanks for the great report.

What I like about it:

You cite specific locations in Manila for the action.

You give a great comparison between Manila, Cebu and AC. I didn't know Cebu had the hottest girls. But is that strictly bar and working girls or are you talking about the native population of Cebu?

I also had no idea AC is getting worst![/QUOTE]Just wanted to say thanks for your input. As for mongering in the PI I have mostly bar experience. A little mall and zero DIA so when I was talking about beauty in these cities I was referring to the bargirls. I didn't do enough mall work but I also noticed the Greenbelt is nowhere near as good as Ayala Mall in Cebu for random cuties.

As Natty mentioned there are other more expensive bars in Manila and maybe the top lookers are there. In Cebu I saw a higher percentage of real gems then anywhere I've been to in the PI. These gems though were heartless little hustlers. In Manila I was happy not to run into any of these types.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1571860]I too had a great time at Bottoms Bar. The girl I picked up there in April gave me the best sessions of my recent trip. Not only was she hot, but she had a real personality. She was, for lack of a better word, hip, so taking her out of the bar LT was better than being with any sweet province girl I had in AC or Subic. The sex was wild and she was very GFE. It was those in between sex times when I could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all the other Pinay bar girls I had this last trip. The sex was great plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword. She was upbeat. There was no torch song about how a former boyfriend knocked her up and left her. She told me she had several international BF's who had taken to Bali, Singapore, Bangkok and Phuket. She spoke about those places with knowledge and understanding. She wanted to show me around Makati at night. Unfortunately I met her on my last 2 days of the trip so we did not have time for hitting the club scene. We will do that next time for sure..[/QUOTE]My best memory of this last trip is of floating w / my little Atlantis dancer in the PB pool. We did this everyday and it was pure bliss (for me). She was in my arms and balanced on my thighs as we bobbed up and down in the pool just drifting and drifting around. She had her arms around me and I had my arms around her backside holding her to me effortlessly. Bobbing and bobbing in the thousand degree heat, staying cool in this beautiful dream, so clear that it seems real. This hobby gets harder and harder to endure now that I'm in the USA.

Thanks for the info on the clubs in Manila, would definitely like to pop in and see the merchandise. Best to you Natty!

PI gets better as I get older, but the flights get harder and harder.

I did alot of DIA and FilCupid work before I got there. I treat DIA as a FL site, and FC as a relationship site. I found a few girls on FC I thought I could be serious with. As usual, once I meet them, it ends up being that there is something wrong. The one girl I met had bad english, and was married to her job. I had planned on being with her most of the time, so when that fell apart, I looked for other options.

I stayed on Burgos. I would not recommend the Citadel. For the cost, you can do better. The Tune Hotel, for example. The beauty of Burgos is all the options right outside your door. The first day off the flight, I took a fat massage girl up that gave a good massage and BBBJ for 1000 p. Not too bad.

I also had a great DIA experience. On DIA, I usually just pursue the 20-25 yo hotties and head the conversation towards I want them to stay the night with me (ie leave little to doubt). One girl I did not make it that far with in the chatting, but when I land she is pursuing me on skype and then texting with wanting to meet me. I was thinking Lady Boy? I told her I was at greenbelt, and boom, she arrives. And she was hot and available. After a long night of wining and dining, back to the room, and no questions asked that she is to stay the night. And it was full game on. That shit rules! We spent many days together, then off to AC and she was sad.

More to come in the AC section.

Some final observations: Definately more Asians and middle eastern men in Manila now than a few years ago, including many more Huka bars.