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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2527877]I keep in touch with several non-P4P Thai girls. Yesterday a Khon Kaen hairdresser told me that vaccinated tourists do not need to be quarantined. Today a Bangkok nurse told me the same thing.
[/QUOTE]If you have not learned by now that Thai people go on I think and not facts. Fuck around and listen to them if you want to. My girlfriend is a hairdresser and always says stuff that there is no basis for as well. Follow the Bangkok Post, not those unlearned chicks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527880]If you have not learned by now that Thai people go on I think and not facts. Fuck around and listen to them if you want to. My girlfriend is a hairdresser and always says stuff that there is no basis for as well. Follow the Bangkok Post, not those unlearned chicks.[/QUOTE]Correct! Rumors and more rumors " I heard this from my friend stuff " it is nice that it is even being suggested by some officials like the one from TAT, even a letter was written by a Hotel Association Head a guy half Thai and American whatever reason got ripe apart for making the suggestion? In the end, it has only been suggested that anyone who has gotten the vaccine with a vaccine passport is allowed into Thailand to travel freely without any Quarantine (no mention of insurance or obtaining COE) also reported by a health minister much too early not enough data to approve such a request did suggest if it happens it might be later in the year?
Their education system lacking? For example, I was getting a massage yesterday from a regular talking about the vaccine from China she couldn't wait, I said that was the last one I would take she was surprised I told her a bit about China she had no idea that China was a communist country that she felt it was just like Thailand? Not the first time.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2527880]If you have not learned by now that Thai people go on I think and not facts. Fuck around and listen to them if you want to. My girlfriend is a hairdresser and always says stuff that there is no basis for as well. Follow the Bangkok Post, not those unlearned chicks.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have observed the same things as I have. I sporadically read TheThaiger, PattayaNews, and BangkokPost. I appreciate members of this board who post links to good articles that I miss.
Restricting visitors was never about their contracting the virus when they got here, it was about their bringing it with them. So unless the vaccines along with preventing serious illness developing also prevents the possibility of becoming infected and being a transmitter vaccination certs may not be the game changer people expect. The data so far is incomplete but anecdotally suggests while lessening the possibility none of the existing vaccines totally prevent the possibility of infection and transmission. Reaching herd immunity at somewhere between 60% to 80% of a population seems to be what's needed but it could be quite some time before this happens in Thailand. Meanwhile second guessing what the uniforms will do while an amusing pastime in my humble opinion is pointless.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2527877]I keep in touch with several non-P4P Thai girls. Yesterday a Khon Kaen hairdresser told me that vaccinated tourists do not need to be quarantined. Today a Bangkok nurse told me the same thing.
I've looked through a couple of Thai news sources and haven't seen anything that suggests no quarantine for vaccinated tourists. Am I missing something? My guess is these Thai girls don't know what they are talking about. My gut feel is the quarantine requirements will continue for months to come.[/QUOTE]This is just another one of those "ideas" that are being floated around by some leader who I assume has something to gain from more tourism. As we know 1 out of 100 of these "ideas" come to fruition. The STV comes to mind.
Imo this would be a huge mistake by Thailand if they allow this. The vaccine DOES NOT stop COVID. It just lowers your chances of getting COVID. The UK variant of COVID seems to be a champion at mutating and all the current vaccines out there will likely be ineffective in the near future.
There are a lot of news articles based on ideas from those not in control, resort owners, industry groups and even TAT and government officials. But it does not count for squat, the regulations are driven by the CCSA and only the cabinet has that power, with the prime ministers approval. Until you see an official announcement in the Royal Gazette then it's only a proposal at best.
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The vaccine DOES NOT stop COVID. It just lowers your chances of getting COVID. The UK variant of COVID seems to be a champion at mutating and all the current vaccines out there will likely be ineffective in the near future.[/QUOTE]This is very interesting info, can you share your sources?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2527936]....The vaccine DOES NOT stop COVID. It just lowers your chances of getting COVID.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen anything conclusive on that yet. If you've seen such a report, I'd be interested in reading it. If the virus cannot replicate and transmit through vaccinated people, that is good enough. It will take more time before that is known.
I hope that Thailand will keep existing policies until there is solid scientific data that shows vaccinated people cannot transmit the virus.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2528057]I haven't seen anything conclusive on that yet.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The experts seem cautiously optimistic on this though, but are careful not to make any unsubstantiated claims this early on.
Maybe the OP is privy to exclusive information. Or maybe not.
Maybe it's late and I'm tired but are you guys saying that vaccines DO stop COVID from spreading altogether? I have yet to read a single report that says this is the case.
An article yesterday.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/oxfords-covid-19-vaccine-said-182000302.html
"In addition to being 70.4 percent effective at preventing serious COVID-19, a new paper shows that the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine may also reduce transmission of the virus"
"This is the first study to analyze whether any of the COVID-19 vaccines currently in use can prevent infection and transmission of the disease. The data we have so far on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines only show that they can prevent serious illness, not that they prevent contraction of the virus in the first place"
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2528255]Maybe it's late and I'm tired but are you guys saying that vaccines DO stop COVID from spreading altogether? [/QUOTE]No, not me, at least. Why would I make such a claim?
As the saying goes "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".
But let's wait and see, data will surely be forthcoming.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2528287]No, not me, at least. Why would I make such a claim?
As the saying goes "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".
But let's wait and see, data will surely be forthcoming.[/QUOTE]Ditto from me.
I am hopeful.
You are not vaccinated, you are not wearing a mask, some other idiot also not wearing a mask but has been vaccinated is close enough their airborne droplets are inhaled by you, the data shows with the current vaccines you can become infected. The degree of transmissibility is being studied but for now the simple take away is continue following health guidelines and wait for the vaccine. If I may I would suggest that if one wants to keep up to date with what's going on with vaccines and the virus UK tabloids are probably not where you need to go.
Conflicting claims going on. But some say it can still move around amongst the unjabbed, so it needs everybody jabbed to get herd immunity, and then there's the mutations which are about. Some say the vaccines won't work on mutants. We don't know for sure yet.
Never mind there's reports on TV of super gonorrhea in Pattaya to replace it.
Quote from TV.
A friend of mine has Super Gonorrhea (not me promise and is having a hell of a time trying to kill it, so far repeated doses of the recommended antibiotics aren't working.
This thread is just a reminder that it is out there, not reported much but definitely in Pattaya. He is following up with the hospital for next steps.
Anybody else care to admit getting it and how they finally got rid of it?
[QUOTE=Berrys66;2528331]Conflicting claims going on. But some say it can still move around amongst the unjabbed, so it needs everybody jabbed to get herd immunity, and then there's the mutations which are about. Some say the vaccines won't work on mutants. We don't know for sure yet.
Never mind there's reports on TV of super gonorrhea in Pattaya to replace it.
Quote from TV.
A friend of mine has Super Gonorrhea (not me promise and is having a hell of a time trying to kill it, so far repeated doses of the recommended antibiotics aren't working.
This thread is just a reminder that it is out there, not reported much but definitely in Pattaya. He is following up with the hospital for next steps.
Anybody else care to admit getting it and how they finally got rid of it?[/QUOTE]WTF? There are only a few STD's that have a vaccine and Gonorrhea is not one of them.