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[QUOTE=Corso 33;1117956]Hi, Which hotel were you in? Oily at 3 am. Must be on Sukhumvit? I normally stay around silom and could not find anything like that at that time.[/QUOTE]My guess when I read his post is Sabai Sabai in soi 11, in the alley just behind Cheap Charlies. Open 24/7
[QUOTE=Payu;1117987]Hi Tiny and thanks for pointing out. You may mislead my question.[/QUOTE]Actually, you may have misread the answer. Not all of the places pointed out were BJ bars, and the BJ bars mentioned are not only for BJs. You don't get exactly the same as XZ, but depending on the girl you can be as interactive as you like in a more or less public setting. More so than XZ in certain ways.
[QUOTE=Payu;1117987]I saw once a post where someone mentioned an more upscale bar in a higher floor[/QUOTE]If you find it again, let us know. Always good to learn of more places.
[quote=d cups;1117838]you don't have to explain in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. they are trained.[/quote]actually, you do have to explain. i don't think that the girls are trained at all, they are just trying to make the guy come. they get on the job training from us.
the op was talking about deepthroat without gag. it is already tough to find a girl that would deepthroat and even more difficult to find one that does not gag. usually guys that want that take pleasure in fucking a girl's throat. in thailand (and i have been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol many times) it is very difficult to really fuck a girl's throat (deep).
i think tuk (ex-sol and now at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] under a name i don't know) could do that. she can surely deepthroat but not sure about gagging.
[quote=nicfrenchy; 1118279]actually, you do have to explain. i don't think that the girls are trained at all, they are just trying to make the guy come. they get on the job training from us.
the op was talking about deepthroat without gag. it is already tough to find a girl that would deepthroat and even more difficult to find one that does not gag. usually guys that want that take pleasure in fucking a girl's throat. in thailand (and i have been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol many times) it is very difficult to really fuck a girl's throat (deep).
i think tuk (ex-sol and now at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] under a name i don't know) could do that. she can surely deepthroat but not sure about gagging. [/quote]she was working at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s under the name som, and i had a great session with her about a year (?) ago. pity she's no longer there! was truly a fine deepthroat artist and a very nice lady to boot.
[QUOTE=Payu; 1117975]Hi dear forum members. Like the title says, I'm looking for Go-Go's where more goes as usually. I mean heavy groping, fingering and even fisting within the club while enjyoing some booze.
I searched the entire Thailand forum but wasn't able to locate such places in BKK.
It can be usual Go-Go's as it can be also "Lounges", where the sound is a bit more decent and the ladies wearing more classy outfit's. [/QUOTE]Read this: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=948933&viewfull=1#post948933[/url] Should give you some ideas
Just stopped by the Eden club. I hadn't seen much recent information on it since the change of ownership, so figured I'd drop some here. I've gone there maybe twice a year for the past 4-5 years, and I don't think the service has dropped. Eden is the kind of place where one has to direct the action, and I found the girls eager to please. Regarding quality, I didn't think it was much different than my previous visits. It was worth the visit.
I know this stuff is obvious for senior members (and well, most people who have their head on straight) but worth a reminder to anyone out here. The following is an email sent out from Thai Love Links to Platinum Members so thought I'd share it with everyone here.
As a side note- I am arriving BKK in a week or so for the 3rd time, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a decent hotel / apartment for longer stay in the center near the action, preferably with a pool and good gym on site or nearby. I'll be indoors alot due to work, and will need reliable fast internet. I'm hoping to budget between 5-7k a week, or around 20k a month. Thanks in advance for any tips / guidance on this.
Here's the email:
"Every country in the world has a small minority of people who are dishonest. The internet offers new opportunities for criminals and dishonest individuals to extort money from unsuspecting individuals. In order to avoid any problems it is better to be overly cautious.
Here are some tips and suggestions:
* NEVER send cash to someone you have only met online, but have not yet met in person.
* Common examples of scams include requests for money to pay for large items such as plane tickets, legal fees, visa fees, medical expenses, marriage annulment fees etc.
* If you ever consider assisting someone in another country who you met online to visit you then first check their visa eligibility with your Immigration department.
* NEVER send cash for someone from another country to purchase a plane ticket, pay for visa or legal costs or anything else associated with a visit to you. If you feel you must assist this person then always buy the ticket yourself directly, on the behalf of the visitor and check that the ticket can be refunded in case you need to cancel it.
* Similarly, if you must pay for visa fees, annulment fees or other large expenses always pay the expense directly after you have verified the invoice and organization issuing the invoice is genuine.
* Some people in developing countries may ask for small amounts of money to pay for internet access or phone costs for communicating with you. We recommend never sending money to anyone you have not yet met in person.
* Be suspicious of people who appear to be overly persistent or aggressive in their requests for money.
* Be particularly suspicious of people who request more money as soon as you send something."
[QUOTE=Rocksoff; 1118222]Actually, you may have misread the answer. Not all of the places pointed out were BJ bars, and the BJ bars mentioned are not only for BJs. You don't get exactly the same as XZ, but depending on the girl you can be as interactive as you like in a more or less public setting. More so than XZ in certain ways.
If you find it again, let us know. Always good to learn of more places. [/QUOTE]Payu, Rocksoff is right. Basically you can have full service sex in public or behind some flimsy curtains at Star of Light and the Strip respectively. So you'd have no problem sticking your fingers up their private parts if that's your thing. See NicFrenchy's link. There used to be a number of places in Soi Cowboy like what you're looking for, Toy Bar and After School to name a couple. I assume they're still there.
Last time I was in town I met this girl from Samui at Climax disco. She was so tall and beautiful and standing out of the crowd in her red dress that I thought for sure she had to be a LB. She kept being approached by young guys and turned them all away, I came to her with a drink in hand. Poor thing was submitted to heavy questionning on my part, I even ended up gently putting my hand up her crotch in the disco (not the classiest thing to do I would admit, it was really an alcohol-induced decision and we were in the middle of a gyrating crowd). I just had to be sure. Turns out she really is a she, works for a real estate agency in Samui and her company sent her to BKK for a few days with some other girls, they decided to finish the night at Climax more or less to make some extra money. Adding credibility to her story is the fact that she was staying at Marriott's Executive Apartments. High class lady, previously married to a Thai policeman, divorced and raises her daughter by herself. We had a short but fantastic time in spite of the fact that we were both quite drunk. She told me it was her first orgasm since her divorce, wow. She did not want any money at the end of the night, I nevertheless gave her 3K to buy some perfume and she took it. We stayed in contact by email.
Now I am back in BKK, where she was supposed to meet me, and she has not answered emails in a week or her phone today. Not wanting to waste too much time I went to Baccarat at 1:30AM last night, exactly 2 hours after my plane landed at Suvarnabhumi. Bad idea, some drunk short curly blond hair girl started kissing me, she was holding a drink and because I was watching the stage rather than her, it took a couple drinks before I realized she was actually ordering at the bar and adding her beers to my tab without anyone asking me, just because she was hanging around and occasionally holding me. I signaled a waitress that I was not paying for this girl's drinks but somehow they still served her another one. I left the bar within 15 minutes of entering after paying my drink and 2 of hers, just because Baccarat is normally my favorite bar and I did not feel like making a scandal for 10 bucks. But I am disappointed that management would let this continue after I reported it.
Walked into Shark and the choice there was much better. One beautiful girl named Nip kept smiling to me, I invited her over and bought her a drink, she was very nice (hugging, kissing in the bar) and I did not feel like scouring the discos for a better choice with the inevitable possibility of running into a LB (my phobia as you may have guessed). She quoted 4K for TLN, I countered at 3K and she just would not accept, even with the bar closing. I figured she was not going to sell herself for less and agreed to pay 4K. She was worth every baht and then some, total GFE, had a great time, she stayed until after breakfast, I may even repeat even though that is direct violation of my rule#1 (whatever rule #1 is, I think it changes every week).
Went to NEP tonight, started at Obsession bar and realized after about 2 minutes that it was full of LBs, I realize they are all ladyboys but it would be hard to tell if not for the obviously masculine type that composes about 50% of the population there. The other half just looks like girls, even in swimming suit. Left the place within 5 minutes and tried to go to Caroussel, which is closed. Ended up at "erotic bar" or something like that, on the first floor left of the plaza entrance, there is a sign outside that advertises a glass floor. I did not see a glass floor, or maybe a very small one that was not in use. I found the place interesting anyway because of the rituals that go on there, mamasan puts oil on her hands and blesses the tummies and foreheads of the girls on stage, girls draw penises on the floor with oil and at the door of the bar and some other rituals, such as for example girls drawing penises on each other's bodies while dancing. I never saw anything like that before. I then tried to go to Rainbow 4 but was blocked by a LB who grabbed my genitals and would not move. I quickly turned around (after duly recovering what belongs to me from the LB's hand) and left the plaza. Way too many LBs for me here, I understand why they are so numerous after hours at Nana Liquid disco, they just cross the street.
To avoid a repeat of the Obsession fiasco, I went back to my hotel to RTFF. Decided to move to Soi Cowboy and sample Toy and Afterskool just to see what happens there. Never made it. I walked into Suzy Wong first and within minutes a big and ugly mama san who told me I did not need to buy her a drink was sitting next to me, asking about my tastes, making recommendations and giving me the detailed history and age of every girl (where they came from, if they were good in bed or not and how she trained them to do BJs and how tight their black box is, it was hilarious). She recommended a tall. 5'8, 90 lb girl. 18 yo, started working a month ago, directly from her province. She told me she was going to organize a lesbian show on stage just so I could see this girl closer, and sure enough within 5 minutes that girl was on stage with her tongue inside another dancer's pussy. After the show she brought the girl over and the mamasan was placing my hands all over this girl's body. I felt bad for the girl but quickly got over my remorse, realizing that if it was not me it was going to be the monger sitting next to me. Paid the 600B bar fine, a 100B tip for the mama so that she would get her hands off from under my shorts, and off I went with "Not" (I think that is what she told me, she is #73). Girl speaks almost no English, has the body of a fashion model and a pretty face, is very quiet and not the active type, but not a starfish, she is inexperienced and shy. But what a treat, that is if you like the tight and gently moaning type. 2K ST, well worth it also. If you see her, treat her well, she is a sweetheart.
The plan for tomorrow is either Mango (is any particular girl a must try?) , where I have always had PSE or Eden where I have never been, not even sure where it is. I am also looking for a soapie, I have been to Annie's but it is not really a soapie, more of a massage place with a possible soapie depending on the girl. I think I have read names like Poseidon and Amsterdam, I used to go to J1 years ago, not sure what it is like today. If anyone can just give a quick recommendation I would really appreciate, so I don't have to RTFF through the numerous posts on this board.
I will keep experiencing until I eventually hook up with my Samui GF, and if I don't, oh well I will have to turn to a pretty face and body with a 3 letter name for consolation (Nok from Baccarat comes to mind).
[QUOTE=Tommylove; 1116601]I would like to rebut your statement that anyone who pays 3000 baht to a Thai working girl is a loser.
First, I have noticed that there is a correlation, in general, between the currency exchange rate and the price of pussy. In countries with a higher standard of living, prostitution is simply more expensive. The US and UK, with strong dollar and pound sterling, have the highest escort prices. Canada, Germany and Netherlands all have decently priced currency and pussy. And countries like Cuba and Thailand and Cambodia, with weak currency, generally provide the best bargains. In fact, an effective economic indicator to gauge a country's strength is what I call the "blowjob-index." The idea is that the value of a local currency generally maps to the cost of sex in that country. In other words, there's a correlation between the strength of the local economy and the price of a blowjob, just like the Big Mac Index. So in the UK, a blowjob might cost you $150-200, but in Amsterdam about $60-80. Then look at that country's currency. A hundred Pound Sterling would run about 175 bucks, a 100 Netherland Guilders (pre-Euro) would cost you $60. Voila! An index!
In fact, when Herodotus, the king of Lydia, invented the idea of a standardized coin, his metric for the value of his coins was based on the value of things like a day's wages as a laborer, a bag of rice, or a visit to a temple prostitute. Thus, the price of pussy in Thailand has more to do with the underlying economics of the country, than the generosity of patrons. Thus, prostitution is not only the oldest profession, but money was partially invented to serve that profession.
Thus, the price of pussy isn't really driven so much by the level of generosity of the sex tourist, so much as the fundamental economics of that country. If you want cheaper sex, go to Cambodia or Laos. Thailand and China have strong and emergent economies, so you can expect the price of pussy in Bangkok and Shanghai to keep rising over the next decade. The flip side of this is that the price of pussy in America will likely slowly decline over the next decade, along with its fortunes and in inverse correlation to the unemployment index. Even if you got every member of this board to agree to toe the line on costs, it would barely make a dent in the economic trend and the pussy index for Thailand.
Second, the typical head of household in the city of Isaan makes roughly $200 per year income. Thus, when the family sends a daughter to Bangkok to ply the oldest trade, she is in fact, sacrificing her life to save her family. Oddly, they'll send one son to the monastery to make up for the karmic implications of selling a daughter into prostitution. The typical Isaan girl sends home 20, 000+ ThB per month, or about 80% of her salary. So when I nail a Thai working gal, and she tells her the story about her family. It opens my heart and I'll tip her a few hundred baht, because it's good karma. In fact, when you use the term "peasant thai hoe", you are being both sexist and classist. It is better to see all human beings as fundamentally worthy of respect and dignity.
Third, I'll tell you a little story about why showing Thai girls respect can lead to a better outcome. I picked up an absolute 10 at a club a while back, and negotiated a long time. Her asking price was exorbitant. 6000 baht. And instead of bargaining her down to 3 or 4 like she was expecting. I said sure, why not. I was staying in a suite in the Shangri-la, and boy did her eyes pop out when she walked into the room. Then, instead of treating her like a working girl, I treated her with respect. And ordered a bubble bath, champagne with strawberries, and went down on her for two hours. (Many working gals, in order to withstand excessive sexplay, deaden their orgasmic response.) After she came. She admitted she orgasmed infrequently because her life was duty, she cried. And then suddenly, she bolted straight up and asked,"you know you're paying for this right?" After I assured her that I was paying her the small fortune in the morning, she did her absolute best to make me happy in return. Afterwards, I bowed with genuine respect and thanked her for a wonderful night of pleasure and we dozed off, holding each other in our arms. In the morning, she begged to stay and offered to fuck me. For free for the entire week that I was in town for a conference. All she asked was the right to go out and do a couple of short times in the evening, but promised she'd be back by midnight. The quality of the sex was so much better than paying for it, as she actually opened her heart and wanted me inside of her. She became a star in the bedroom, not a starfish.
Anyway, I had no intention of falling in love with her, so I felt bad toward the end of the week. Getting so much sex and not paying anything except providing room and breakfast, so I offered to take her shopping. She was careful not to ask for anything too expensive, to impress on me that she was not a gold digger. And of course, she wrote me quite a bit once I was home, hoping for a rematch.
So does that make me a loser? My advice to you is that you take off the blinders and see life in a different way. It's better to be generous and respectful, than being the kind of guy who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one. [/QUOTE]Hey don't apologise. I agree with you. Pay what you want, and what you think they deserve. What some guys seem to forget is that these girls are human too and most are really nice.
I get pretty sick of the losers on the site that contantly argue about how little they should pay, how they can save 100baht on their taxi etc. Stay in your own trailer park back home and leave the fun to us.
These debates go nowhere. I've seen it a hundred times here. Boring!
JohnTheScot
Give me some tips on how to book flights on Air Asia from the states. I've tried with a CC many times but transaction never goes through. What am I doing wrong. Thanks
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1116780]Yo man are you kidding? You felt bad for not paying to fuck? Even though you provided her room, board and YOUR first world companionship? I guess you undervalue YOUR time, that proves you are in fact LOSER. You value HER peasant 3rd world hoe time MORE than YOUR time. I bet 10 bucks YOU never finished high school. Make it 20. I mean no offense player but really anyone who has a real education and a thinker can read your prose and extract that you have a low-self esteem issue. Place more value on your time, are you ugly or something? There are billions are asians living hand-t0-mouth, I bet 10 bucks your 10 girl is one of them, and for her to be with YOU, a first world male, hey thats bigger than a lottery ticket.
I can't believe losers from the west pay 6000 bhat to bang peasant hoes, really. Hey mate I have a bridge for sale, would you be intersted? Only 6000 bhat.
" Afterwards, I bowed with genuine respect and thanked her for a wonderful night of pleasure and we dozed off, holding each other in our arms. In the morning, she begged to stay and offered to fuck me. For free for the entire week that I was in town for a conference. All she asked was the right to go out and do a couple of short times in the evening, but promised she'd be back by midnight. The quality of the sex was so much better than paying for it, as she actually opened her heart and wanted me inside of her. She became a star in the bedroom, not a starfish.
Anyway, I had no intention of falling in love with her, so I felt bad toward the end of the week. Getting so much sex and not paying anything except providing room and breakfast, so I offered to take her shopping. She was careful not to ask for anything too expensive, to impress on me that she was not a gold digger. And of course, she wrote me quite a bit once I was home, hoping for a rematch.
So does that make me a loser? My advice to you is that you take off the blinders and see life in a different way. It's better to be generous and respectful, than being the kind of guy who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one. [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]What a fucking idiot. How many times have we seen dichheads like this on here. Just trying to wind everyone up. Think he's on the ignore list from now on.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1116839]He might not have finished high school, but did you start high school?[/QUOTE]I have a funny feeling he is still in high school! It's the ranting of an immature adolecent who's still a virgin. Probably typing it from his mummy's basement while watching porn.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1117486]Looks like Penbelly's back. With a new name[/QUOTE]Haha that's exactly what I thought. Or his more stupid redneck brother. .
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1117791]Goyave's got a perfect handle on prostitution as a job in Thailand. Most do it because it is very easy work and many times what they could earn any other way, though the regular jobs available do pay enough to subsist.
Regarding your estimates of prostitute incomes, Goyave, I just had a conversation the other day with a very pretty (though a little too dark to be really 'Thai style') young freelancer in Isaan. With nearly all Thai customers paying roughly 500-800 for short times she brings in 20, 000 baht a month consistently, working around 3 hours per day, and working no more than 20 days per month at most. She says she has no interest in working more or going to some tourist spot, or to work at a Soapy or karaoke, as that's plenty of money for her and she dislikes having to deal with bosses / coworkers, even though she knows she could easily double her income. [/QUOTE]A good thai friend of mine (non P4P) told me recently that bar girls don't do it because they need the money and are very poor. They do it because they are lazy! They sleep all day and get up in time for work and hang out in a bar all night with their friends drinking. She said any girl can get a decent factory job and earn enough money. That's what she did before she got a job in a shop in Central shopping mall. That was her opinion anyway.
JohnTheScot