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[QUOTE=Skogis;1576802]In all cases it has become a tradition to write tripreports after they are executed. Last week I have spend in belowed Makati and I am now in BKK on my way home. I did have a strong motivation to do a fieldtrip down to Harrison mall to check out the FL birds hanging there but there was simply not enough time. I had in between mongering to do some baby monitoring as well so loosing some hours in a busy scheduel would have great effect in m preprogrammed scheduel. But it is still on my to do list.

I managed to do 10 or so birds and pics will come after I have brushed them back home but I must allready now tell about two extremely odd experiences happening this trip.

1. This 19 year old datingsitespinner came over to my hotel as in a midday session. She was shy but after a Tanduay pink she loosened up a bit. Lets say 15 minutes and she was all undressed and ready to go and we did everything according to my expectations. Fucked.

Today I get a long msg in my fake FB account from her and she by heart and all that crap thinks I am the most special guy she ever met. She admits she has met some guys before. You did not set the bar very high guys, hehe? Ofcourse this msg can be all crap and everything but I get a feeling she is genuine. We spend like 1,5 hrs together but then "I had to go somewhere" so she left (ofcourse a new girl was arriving shortly). I have ofcourse got sms's and e mails and other stuff before but nothing like this..

2. She was a real stunner also out of her workhabit. But ofcourse she met up with all her workforce (4 people). This was a strange turn in event. It demands a strong heart to deal with surprises like this and tactics has to be changed all in a sudden. We did ofcourse have some text communication after we met but nothing in my mind came across to think she would meet up with chaperones. After Addams Family I am starting getting good at this and probably i should have learned as well.

Well all 5 of us had dinner and i put up my best act to devide my pray from the rest of the group without beeing successful. I got a feeling "my girl" was interested but was beeing told off by her co workers. She was all in a decent girl but she would more than likely meet up with me for hanging in the room the next day. Hm normaly this would be a walk in the park but with this one i got a doubtful mind she is not a play girl.

I..[/QUOTE]Am sure was as fun as always. I think if 4 had turned up for a "date"with me then I would have had an urgent meeting to attend to and sorry honey, next time maybe.

Note to monger newbies. Always have a pocketful of excuses, reasons why you have to leave, go somewhere else, ready and avaialbe to use, when the unexpected happens.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1576838]What did the "datingsitespinner" cost you and for how long?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1576905]Am sure was as fun as always. I think if 4 had turned up for a "date"with me then I would have had an urgent meeting to attend to and sorry honey, next time maybe.

Note to monger newbies. Always have a pocketful of excuses, reasons why you have to leave, go somewhere else, ready and avaialbe to use, when the unexpected happens.[/QUOTE]Hm I don't run an exact scheduel or plan regarding "how long" and "price" To take prices first I tend to compensate accordingly to going rates and possible slightly above. But as there are no such thing as discussion of money upfront I guve out of how much I like her and performance. If we take this shy 19 year old meeting me at her day off she was compensated 2 k.

That takes me over to how long as to some maby 2 k seems steep for 1,5 hrs. Actually that is perfect timing as we then have time to get friendly, do one or two pops incl some play and in general things does not feel rushed. I enjoy it very much when girls don't hang around to long but often we have to invent a "long list" of excuses which takes me over to Freebie's comments who I also quoted. This is very important guys. Obviously you can see I am a lot better making up them excuses when I am in my own safehaven than I am meeting a bunch outside and things does not go exactly as planned, hehe. Lets say I so far hang in there as it has somewhat just started happen lately. No reason to invent powder all over again and good old more or less laim excuses will work perfectly. Pinays are such forgiving breed of girls. To my one on one meetings I mostly use "I have a friend working in Makati who I rarely sees" and most girls accept that. Sometimes I feel not very good about it as some girls show up with bags to stay a few days.

I also set up dates differently. Morning-callcentergirls), midday- and early / late afternoondates are short ones (never discuss any length with the girls though). Late nightdates are meant for "staying the night" and discussed upfront.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1576917]I also set up dates differently. Morning-callcentergirls), midday- and early / late afternoondates are short ones (never discuss any length with the girls though). Late nightdates are meant for "staying the night" and discussed upfront.[/QUOTE]Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.

My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), except the 3 days I will go to Boracay and bring one girl only.

One question Skogis, what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?

Because if I say 3 or 4 days it will be too short for the busy girls, if I say the true 2 weeks they will be texting me all the time during the two weeks to meet again which I don't want since I will be texting like 40 girls during my trip, too much texting I will go crazy. Or do you suggest to lie and tell them I'm staying longer for 1 or 2 months.

By the way, I convince my fiance to let me go to Phils with my friends. I actually use a jealousy argument I had with her (made it worse, she caught the bait because she was drunk that time), and the next day I was ready to break up with her. My condition to stay with her was that she needs to prove me that she is not a jealous person anymore and let me go on this trip. She accepted even thought she kind of knows there is a good chance I will be sleeping around. Well, her fault for getting jealous when she was drunk.

[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988]Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.

My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), except the 3 days I will go to Boracay and bring one girl only.

One question Skogis, what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?

Because if I say 3 or 4 days it will be too short for the busy girls, if I say the true 2 weeks they will be texting me all the time during the two weeks to meet again which I don't want since I will be texting like 40 girls during my trip, too much texting I will go crazy. Or do you suggest to lie and tell them I'm staying longer for 1 or 2 months.

By the way, I convince my fiance to let me go to Phils with my friends. I actually use a jealousy argument I had with her (made it worse, she caught the bait because she was drunk that time), and the next day I was ready to break up with her. My condition to stay with her was that she needs to prove me that she is not a jealous person anymore and let me go on this trip. She accepted even thought she kind of knows there is a good chance I will be sleeping around. Well, her fault for getting jealous when she was drunk.[/QUOTE]A man of real character here.

Run, man run!

I would never feel it is ok for my "date" to expect me to pony up a free meal for 3 freeloaders. I would be gone so fast, the girls would only see a blur.

Very little chance that will end up getting you laid.

[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988] what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?

[/QUOTE]I usually tell them I am in Phils for however long I am there for but that it is a work trip so can't see them every day. However I do have free time to meet up with them. And then the reason that I cannot see them the following day is work commitments. But then all the girls who meet me know it is just for fun anyway. Others I tell them the truth which is that I have a gf but just want to meet up for short term fun.

I use the BS meter here and tekk them mostly I don't know as I have a loose scheduel and travels around. I get it saying you only stay here short time gets the girl more eeger to drop their panties fast.

[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988]Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.

My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, [/QUOTE]In my opinion way too many. You'll spent hours in traffic as well as the girls. You'll need (probably) a little time for yourself. And, if you have a date with a girl at 5 pm like I had today, I considered myself lucky when she arrived at 5. 45 pm. Late just 45 minutes, that's quite good. For Pinay standards.

IMHO, forget about 4 or even 5 dates a day. You must meet the first girl at 6 am to start with that schedule.

Anyway, good luck! Have fun!

[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988]

My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), [/QUOTE]How do you define a date? Will you be dashing all over metro Manila? She's going to be late; how long are you prepared to wait at the date location? You can do 4 or 5 dates each day by simply arranging each date to be at your residence. If she doesn't want to meet at your place then you can conclude she's not genuine in her desire to fuck you. Your choice whether it be in your room (this I strongly advise) or in a coffeeshop / resto / bar very near your residence (less desirable). If you've communicated correctly every girl will know that the purpose of the meeting is to fuck and not to enjoy coffee-time chit-chat and mall wandering. Assuming come-to-fuck is the case why then add a time-consuming obstacle that adds no value to your enjoyment and could quite possibly derail it?

Much like Skogis I typically run a three-a-day routine on the days my main girl is working - on her days off my entire day is hers. The night-shift call-centre agent or college student arrives in the morning (almost always late), we chat for up to 1 hour, then it's to bed. I want her out no later than 1 because the next is due to arrive at 2:30 and I have to clean up the place. The afternoon girl will also be late. Again, we chat for a while, then it's to bed. I want her out by 7 pm because the nighttime girl is coming at 8:30. If Pinays were more attentive to time and the transport infrastructure was decent I could squeeze in another 1 or 2 a day, but after a few failed attempts to get everyone to follow my timeline I realised I was driving myself loopy. It's like herding kittens; it never works. Keep this in mind: I'm going nowhere outside my condo and I find 3-a-day to be a busy yet manageable day.

[QUOTE=Ekspat;1577153]In my opinion way too many. You'll spent hours in traffic as well as the girls. You'll need (probably) a little time for yourself. And, if you have a date with a girl at 5 pm like I had today, I considered myself lucky when she arrived at 5. 45 pm. Late just 45 minutes, that's quite good. For Pinay standards.
![/QUOTE]You were extremely lucky Eks that your girl arrived "only" 45 minutes late.

Today (Friday in Manila) was an horrific traffic day. I was planning dinner at the seafood restaurants on Macapagal Blvd (near MOA) today. We left home (in Ortigas) at 4. 45 pm and arrived at 7. 50 pm. I kid you not. I was ready to pull the pin and go home after 70 or so minutes but we were stuck in EDSA traffic with no way to get out of it.

So I agree with Hutsori. Make sure it is at a single venue. Those who talk about lining up multiple dates that involves ANY travel need to factor in the multiple variables including the day of the week and the time of day. Skogis can clearly do it; FF is also a pro. If you are a newbie, forget it.

When reading his post I get a feeling he wants to have a safety net if some girls don't show or are not to his attraction. If they are not to his attraction he obviously did not do a good pre screening job, hehe. So even if 4/5 girls would be perfect it is almost not doable due to the various things which comes into play as other BM's meantioning.

In my case I tried a couple of trips ago (7 days stay, arrived late and left early so actually only 5 hole days) doing 3 a day as a small project on my own and even if I probably could have made it work it affected my alonetime to much (unwinding, evidence removals, take a mallwalk (feeling in the beauties to get a dirty mind for next session, showers, drinks and foods). I came out with 17/18 sessions incl one girl I did have over 3 times (as she was very horny and good at what I was interested in and lived close so could arriive on short notice). In short, even if some days i will have 3(if they live or work in Makati area or happens to work as callcentergirls in Spikes, which is the next building from where i mostly stay), i will go for 2 in average a day. Then i get more time for baby monetoring and alone time.

No, let the girls do the travelling job and you meet them outside hotel or only 50 steps outside at the most (works fine where I mostly live, almost sharing entrance with a huge mall). This is better for heartrate and more comfy for you. If we can try be a bit cheeky here, the girls need you more than you need them:-)

I didn't know girls in Manila were always late, in my experience all the girls I met in Manila were either on time or came early to the time we set-up to meet, in fact I was the one who was always late (even thought we meet one or two blocks from my hotel). This is the reason why I want to set-up 4 dates a day, (two in the morning and two at night) if the first one is very late and my second date is on the way I will tell her that she is too late and that I have work to do, I will still meet her maybe eat some breakfast but if she is late she will pass from my first option to my second option (so I will meet her another day), I hate unpunctual people (even though I'm one of them).

So then I will meet my second date, like Skogis said the second date is just as my safety net, the same way if I don't find her attractive, I will still see her but make the date short so I can see my second date. Hopefully this won't happen since I will be doing a screening job in skype, but it can still happen, or if she is not a DTF type of girl I will just make the date short.

If we like eachother and I want to spend time with her I will cancel my second date and make it for the next day, I done this before and so far they seem OK with it, if she gets [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and doesn't want to meet that's her loss, I will call the next girl. People might think I'm mean by doing this but I don't see it that way because I will still meet her the next day as my first option, treat her good and give her a compensation afterwards, is not like I don't give a shit about her.

Which comes to my second point, I don't like meeting woman for 1 or 2 hours only just to fuck her, I like the whole process of getting to know her, make her attracted to me, if it happens fast great if it doesn't is OK as long as we end in bed at the end of the day, 4-5 hours with each girl that's what I like. The same process will happen at night with the difference that she will spend the night at my place. So that's why I said I will plan 4 dates per day, but at the end it will be only 2 dates per day.

The meeting place of the dates will be close to where I'm staying within a couple of blocks, most likely a mall, coffee shop, or bar when is at night. Sometimes I will meet her at my place so she can cook for me (I done this before and is possible).

So basically my dates will be around 5 hours (2 hours getting to know eachother and 3 hours in bed), of course this is not set in stone, I can adapt and change it on the flow, but my goal is to hook up with 2 girls per day, BUT if I find a great girl (great in looks and great in personality) I might stay with her the whole day and she will be the prime candidate to de-throne the girl I'm planning to take to Boracay which is someone similar in looks and personality that I'm communicating now.

You must live in a sex prison Mr. Nash. You're making your trip very anal retentive and ovary complicated.

[QUOTE=SteveNash;1577760]...in my experience all the girls I met in Manila were either on time or came early to the time we set-up to meet...
[/QUOTE]Where is this Manila you speak of? Switzerland?

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1578194]Where is this Manila you speak of? Switzerland?[/QUOTE]Huts it depends. On the one hand traffic is an absolute *BAITCH* in Manila leading to unintended delays even with the best of intentions. If your talking about a poorer girl coming from some distance lateness is common. If you're talking about an employed girl or student living nearby in Makati / Mandaluyong / Guadelupe etc then timeliness is far more likely. The newer generation classier girls do seem a bit better about it (generalisation). My 22 yr old spinner salon manager text's me yesterday "What time I come. I'm always late". She arrived 30 min's early. But I do agree to warn newbie to factor in delays.

AV.