Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Wendella;1119054]... p.s. Strange, it seems as if attempts to type a winking smiley face result in an extra period/full stop instead when a message gets posted to the forum. Whats up with that. I had to go back into Edit to fix them, and was able to fix it. Strange.[/QUOTE]

That's one of the numerous problems that we are facing here since the software upgrade: the current setting of the automatic-editing program could be improved a lot, as it seems.

I wrote something some time ago about the fact that (fortunately) the automatic editing is processed only on the initial submission, and not on edited versions: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1111665#post1111665[/url]

[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1118012]I don't think you have anything to apologize for. As a gringo, I marvel at the international member of this forum and how well they use the Queen's English. I live in the American Southwest and can only speak a few words of Spanish and Tagalog much less write in those languages. You and the others probably use better English than most of us native speakers.

Slim[/QUOTE]Thank you for your kind words (and Daddy07 and GoodEnough, thank you for your clarification), even though I know pretty well that my command of English is far from being perfect.

[QUOTE=Rimbaud913;1118573]I too have been sick and tired of listening to the whining by the bargain hunters. The reality is that is takes so little for us to be reasonable with these girls, they will give you 10 fold for your generosity, and you get pleasure without being exploitive. Really, if you cannot afford a little generosity with these girls, stay home.[/QUOTE]Being reasonable with these girls is the key! But you are not reasonable if you are overly generous (to the point that the locals -- and that includes the girls themselves despite what they may say -- will consider you as stupid), even if you can afford paying much more than the locals.

Moreover, there is no merit in having a girl entertaining you if you overpay her: most tourists and foreigners can do that. But if you pay her a reasonable fee (the same amount or slightly more than what a local guy would pay) and make her willing to be in your company again, that means that she genuinely enjoys being with you and respects you.

Believe it or not, but overpaying does not provide you a better service and not even a better-looking provider in the great majority of cases. Have you noticed that people who overpay seldom post their girls' pictures? And when it is the case, I must say, with all due respect, that I usually fail to see how those girls are actually superior in looks in the nude than many girls that I have fucked for a lot less money.

By the way, for those who want to be overly generous, I can give you the contact information of several reliable charity organizations in Thailand that are more in need of your excess money and would use it more wisely than most of the girls available in the tourist-orientated P4P scene.

[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1118532]A good thai friend of mine (non P4P) told me recently that bar girls don't do it because they need the money and are very poor. They do it because they are lazy! They sleep all day and get up in time for work and hang out in a bar all night with their friends drinking. She said any girl can get a decent factory job and earn enough money. That's what she did before she got a job in a shop in Central shopping mall. That was her opinion anyway.

JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]

I would not say that all of them are "lazy". Most are just clever (and adventurous) enough to realize that they can earn much more money as prostitutes than working in a regular job, especially since they were not given a decent education (on purpose, because the local elite wants to keep the rural populations undereducated) when they were younger in the small villages from where they originate.

Fully agree. Maybe we could have a sub-forum dedicated to pricing and keep this one here for infos on where to find stunners.

[QUOTE=Rimbaud913;1118573]I too have been sick and tired of listening to the whining by the bargain hunters. The reality is that is takes so little for us to be reasonable with these girls, they will give you 10 fold for your generosity, and you get pleasure without being exploitive. Really, if you cannot afford a little generosity with these girls, stay home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goyave;1119077]Have you noticed that people who overpay seldom post their girls' pictures? And when it is the case, I must say, with all due respect, that I usually fail to see how those girls are actually superior in looks in the nude than many girls that I have fucked for a lot less money.[/QUOTE]This is because most stunners do NOT want their picture taken. They don't need the advertising. I always ask if I can take pictures beforehand, but honestly I cannot remember the last time a p4p girl let me take pictures of her. Maybe the ugly ones do, but who wants to look at those?

Maybe someone can post some advice on how to convince these girls to pose for some pictures.

[QUOTE=Goyave; 1119077]Being reasonable with these girls is the key! But you are not reasonable if you are overly generous

Believe it or not, but overpaying does not provide you a better service and not even a better-looking provider in the great majority of cases. [/QUOTE]I agree. Being reasonable and smart is key when dealing with the Thais. Spoiling them only shows how weak you are and they will begin to manipulate the power in the relationship (even if only for one hour). Being assertive, smart, fair, and easy going works wonders. It's a tough balancing act that many tourists don't understand.

[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119101]Maybe someone can post some advice on how to convince these girls to pose for some pictures.[/QUOTE]Tell them how beautiful they look and that you want to have a photo of them so you can remember them by and that the picture is only for you. Photos from a phone camera are non-intrusive and very easy to grab quick casual shots. Show the picture afterward and tell them how beautiful they look. You can even bluetooth the photo to them right after. Have fun with the process and make it seem so casual and natural. If you act like its no big deal, they will act the same way.

If you can communicate everything in Thai, than this is very easy to do.

[QUOTE=Goyave; 1119077]Being reasonable with these girls is the key! But you are not reasonable if you are overly generous (to the point that the locals. And that includes the girls themselves despite what they may say. Will consider you as stupid) , even if you can afford paying much more than the locals.

Moreover, there is no merit in having a girl entertaining you if you overpay her: most tourists and foreigners can do that. But if you pay her a reasonable fee (the same amount or slightly more than what a local guy would pay) and make her willing to be in your company again, that means that she genuinely enjoys being with you and respects you.

Believe it or not, but overpaying does not provide you a better service and not even a better-looking provider in the great majority of cases. Have you noticed that people who overpay seldom post their girls' pictures? And when it is the case, I must say, with all due respect, that I usually fail to see how those girls are actually superior in looks in the nude than many girls that I have fucked for a lot less money.

By the way, for those who want to be overly generous, I can give you the contact information of several reliable charity organizations in Thailand that are more in need of your excess money and would use it more wisely than most of the girls available in the tourist-orientated P4P scene. [/QUOTE]

Agreed 100%. This is what anyone who spends more than a short holiday here learns.

[QUOTE=Goyave; 1119068]That's one of the numerous problems that we are facing here since the software upgrade: the current setting of the automatic-editing program could be improved a lot, as it seems.

I wrote something some time ago about the fact that (fortunately) the automatic editing is processed only on the initial submission, and not on edited versions:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1111665#post1111665[/url][/QUOTE]Be careful what you ask for. The guy who runs the forum is pretty particular about proper writing, typing, spelling, punctuation, etc. I once saw him totally delete almost every post by a guy who liked to imitate pirate slang in all his posts, and also to come down on Singlish or text message style with no capitals, or whatever. He might have set things up to eliminate the smileys, but overlooked doing the same in the Edit mode. Shhhhhh! . (that little dot was meant to be a winking smiley)

[QUOTE=Wendella;1119140]... He might have set things up to eliminate the smileys, but overlooked doing the same in the Edit mode. Shhhhhh! . (that little dot was meant to be a winking smiley)[/QUOTE]

Despite the (invisible) winking smiley in your post, I'm gonna reply seriously to it. Nope, had Jackson wanted to eliminate the smilies here, he would have configured all the threads like [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3175-Questions-and-Comments-about-the-recent-software-upgrade-to-vB-4.-0&p=1111534&viewfull=1#post1111534"]this one[/url] (for instance) where the smilies are set to OFF (have a look at the bottom of the webpage in the "Posting Limitations" section).

The current automatic-editing program does not allow you to write in Thai (for instance) directly on the initial submission (you have to edit your post for doing this) and makes some other unwanted "corrections" such as adding a superfluous space after a closing bracket immediately followed by a comma.

In Bangkok for 1 night, Tuesday night next week from around midnight-1am onwards. Any advice for good late night hunting, particularly around Sukumvit Road? Cheers

[QUOTE=Engjoe;1119348]In Bangkok for 1 night, Tuesday night next week from around midnight-1am onwards. Any advice for good late night hunting, particularly around Sukumvit Road? Cheers[/QUOTE]Soi Cowboy will still be going at 12. Later (and thinking of the word "hunt") you might look at the freelancers around the sidewalk bars at the west end of Cowboy, there by the Citi ATMs and the stairs to the metro. Lot of dogs, and then. WOW! (But check for ladyboys.)

Some MPs on 24 and 24/1 must stay open pretty late, but haven't personally researched.

[QUOTE=Engjoe;1119348]In Bangkok for 1 night, Tuesday night next week from around midnight-1am onwards. Any advice for good late night hunting, particularly around Sukumvit Road? Cheers[/QUOTE]My advice: you are staying 1 night only so no need to go out hunting, unless you really want a bar atmosphere, you would waste your time more than anything.

Call up Mango and order a girl to your Hotel (I am sure they would even go to the Airport to pick you up) for 3, 000 thb All inc. (you will pay the taxi)

Hell, for 1 night only I would even order 2 girls to meet and greet at the Airport. Book a limo (more Private) and then get blown on your way to the hotel.

For a one night only, I think you need strong memories.

[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119101]This is because most stunners do NOT want their picture taken...[/QUOTE]That's true to some extent, but not for all of them. And knowing what some people are paying their girls, it should not be much difficult to take at least one (fully-clothed if in the nude is not possible) picture of them (it could be requested prior making the deal, for instance).

But more likely, if we don't see many pictures of "real stunners" in the photo gallery, it's usually because most of the overpayers don't dare posting any picture of the girls they fuck. I probably can count the pictures of real stunners submitted by the overpayers in the photo gallery on the fingers of one hand! Admittedly, it's very difficult to believe those guys without any proof when they write about the (supposedly) good looks of their costly conquests.

You already know that some people are paying a very high price for unattractive or just ordinary looking providers. If it weren't the case, you would not see those girls on the P4P market charging exorbitant rates: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2408-Escort-Classified-Ads-Member-Discussions&p=1115862&viewfull=1#post1115862[/url]

Of course, in some cases, a guy would indeed pay a premium for a girl that I would also consider as a real stunner, but in the great majority of cases (almost in 100% of them, actually), the much higher price is, IMHO, absolutely not justified. The overpayers may say that for them, it is justified, but, hey, guys, show us the goods first, and we could judge it much better!

[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119101]... I always ask if I can take pictures beforehand, but honestly I cannot remember the last time a p4p girl let me take pictures of her... Maybe someone can post some advice on how to convince these girls to pose for some pictures.[/QUOTE]In [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1094421&viewfull=1#post1094421"]another post[/url], you wrote: "I've videotaped girls having sex with me from Soi 6 as well as go-go bars. Sometimes if the girl is really really hot she will object, but then I'll just choose another girl. They know this."

If you've already been able to videotape go-go girls (they were not all ugly, I suppose?) having sex with you, it should not be very difficult to take their photo either, no? If the girl is really stunning, she might indeed refuse, but certain stunners will accept (maybe after offering a reasonable incentive, for instance), especially if it is a condition "sine qua non".