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[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2532251]I've worked with plenty of Indian graduates and I have doubted how some of them actually graduted. [/QUOTE]I have worked directly with several Indian graduates, most were educated in USA. They ranged from among the worst I've ever seen to among the best. Very much like you would find with any other nationality.
[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2532251]I've heard of lecturers in Australia being pressured to not fail students because the uni makes too much money from overseas students. In one case I heard about, a lecturer wasn't allowed to fail a student who couldn't speak English very well but was studying a Master fo Englist Lit! [/QUOTE]I confirm that this is correct.
The basic issue here is entitled Western marshmallows losing out to Indian mongers and responding with their usual racism or personal anecdotes.
India is almost 20% of the world's population. Microsoft, Ericson and so on use Indian engineers extensively, so if they don't have any great problem, why should entitled Westerners, who come from countries with their own extremes of wealth and poverty?
There is also Western imperialist superiority complexes which shine through here. They really think they are God's gift.
Indians, in general, move to a different beat but so do many others. They come, in big numbers, to Thailand on their own budget and with their own friends to do things their way. Westerners see themselves losing out to them.
The SOS site you cite seems to be as big as mcDonald's. I regard them and others as big scam jobs full opf folk with dubious attitudes to kids. Show me an NGO big wig and I will show you a scammer and / or a sex pervert.
During the tsunami, India said it did not need help and its blue water navy (which China did not then have) was sending aid abroad, to the Maldives, Sri Lanka etc. Still, Western gangster NGOs were collecting funds "to send to India".
[QUOTE=LooseCannon;2532227]You have quoted a website which is enticing you to donate. Will you donate if you are told only 30% are below poverty line. Yes 30% is huge and the 225 million people under poverty line as designated by World Bank strengthens your case. I am no finance expert, but what is not being considered is that Cost of living in India is pretty low. $2 in rural India is comparable to $20 in rural Germany? How you may ask, It is because food and other essentials cost much less. I argue that
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[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2532195]Cambodia or Laos is just a no and we don't need to go further than that.[/QUOTE]Cambodia is great Man, don't be so categoric. And Khmer girl are very lovely.
If I couldn't keep track of which hand was my left, I probably wouldn't be pointing it out.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2532332]The basic issue here is entitled Western marshmallows losing out to Indian mongers and responding with their usual racism or personal anecdotes.
India is almost 20% of the world's population. Microsoft, Ericson and so on use Indian engineers extensively, so if they don't have any great problem, why should entitled Westerners, who come from countries with their own extremes of wealth and poverty?
There is also Western imperialist superiority complexes which shine through here. They really think they are God's gift.
Indians, in general, move to a different beat but so do many others. They come, in big numbers, to Thailand on their own budget and with their own friends to do things their way. Westerners see themselves losing out to them.
The SOS site you cite seems to be as big as mcDonald's. I regard them and others as big scam jobs full opf folk with dubious attitudes to kids. Show me an NGO big wig and I will show you a scammer and / or a sex pervert.
During the tsunami, India said it did not need help and its blue water navy (which China did not then have) was sending aid abroad, to the Maldives, Sri Lanka etc. Still, Western gangster NGOs were collecting funds "to send to India".[/QUOTE]I being a minority have no problems with people coming to the USA Legally and that includes Indians when it comes to the tech world particularly in Silicon Valley the use of H1 B visa is being abused by companies like Google claiming a shortage of train tech workers from the USA Currently these Tech companies make up something like 40% if not more. What started as something good turn out to be more with wages although they are trained there is clearly a bias in the hiring practice with the use of these visas, whenever a politician brings up the number all their lobbyist go to work. I'm not sure your assessment of western imperialist superiorty complex is proper since it can apply to many countries I think your bias against the USA Is what is shining a bit here.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2532919]I being a minority have no problems with people coming to the USA Legally and that includes Indians when it comes to the tech world particularly in Silicon Valley the use of H1 B visa is being abused by companies like Google claiming a shortage of train tech workers from the USA Currently these Tech companies make up something like 40% if not more. What started as something good turn out to be more with wages although they are trained there is clearly a bias in the hiring practice with the use of these visas, whenever a politician brings up the number all their lobbyist go to work. I'm not sure your assessment of western imperialist superiorty complex is proper since it can apply to many countries I think your bias against the USA Is what is shining a bit here.[/QUOTE]When compared to the Indian outsourcing companies that pay less and also take a cut at the same time, it is difficult to see how Google abuses the system when the pay is $100 K+. These companies don't pay engineers based on their visa type.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2532945]When compared to the Indian outsourcing companies that pay less and also take a cut at the same time, it is difficult to see how Google abuses the system when the pay is $100 K+. These companies don't pay engineers based on their visa type.[/QUOTE]That is where you are dead wrong! Have you been to Silicone Valley where companies like Google are based? I was born and raised in S. F. Have many nephews and nieces working in the tech world a few use to be with Google and Microsoft many left for other smaller startups. You go wait outside some of these larger techs and it is like Little India 100,000 doesn't buy you anything in this area or in S. F. In 2016, I needed to return to S. F. To care for my mother our family building is located in prime real estate our neighbors were all transients from India renting rooms in a house for 2000 USD each share bath and kitchen. Each morning the Google Bus would put up at the corner and take them to work which was an hour away.
Based on what these companies are making they should be paying much more but these H1 B visas so many have diluted the pay scale it is like a sweatshop then you have the leaders who average 500,000 plus. After my mother enters a senior care facility the family put the building on the market two weeks later we got 3 offers all over 4 million USD, the building was brick built-in 1896 with no foundation, and needed a half-million in upgrades. Six months later it was turned into a 12 room rental spread over 3 floors with a shared kitchen and bath on each floor. Each room rented for 2500 a month and there was a waiting list prior to the pandemic. The Google bus driver a Teamster makes 60,000 USD and sleeps in a mobile traitor in the parking lot.
Yes, hundred plus grand is a lot of money but the pay should be much higher the visas have diluted the pay scale to a point the entry jobs are paid less and will stay that way until the visas number are reduced tough to believe with the number of people in this country that they can't find enough homegrown takers for these jobs. These jobs aren't like picking fruits in Central Valley in California because Americans don't want the jobs. Should it be any surprise that few of the CEO is Indian? I'm not bashing Indians it's the way the game is played and sadly Americans are losing.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2533035]That is where you are dead wrong! Have you been to Silicone Valley where companies like Google are based? I was born and raised in S. F. Have many nephews and nieces working in the tech world a few use to be with Google and Microsoft many left for other smaller startups. You go wait outside some of these larger techs and it is like Little India 100,000 doesn't buy you anything in this area or in S. F. In 2016, I needed to return to S. F. To care for my mother our family building is located in prime real estate our neighbors were all transients from India renting rooms in a house for 2000 USD each share bath and kitchen. Each morning the Google Bus would put up at the corner and take them to work which was an hour away.
Based on what these companies are making they should be paying much more but these H1 B visas so many have diluted the pay scale it is like a sweatshop then you have the leaders who average 500,000 plus. After my mother enters a senior care facility the family put the building on the market two weeks later we got 3 offers all over 4 million USD, the building was brick built-in 1896 with no foundation, and needed a half-million in upgrades. Six months later it was turned into a 12 room rental spread over 3 floors with a shared kitchen and bath on each floor. Each room rented for 2500 a month and there was a waiting list prior to the pandemic. The Google bus driver a Teamster makes 60,000 USD and sleeps in a mobile traitor in the parking lot.
Yes, hundred plus grand is a lot of money but the pay should be much higher the visas have diluted the pay scale to a point the entry jobs are paid less and will stay that way until the visas number are reduced tough to believe with the number of people in this country that they can't find enough homegrown takers for these jobs. These jobs aren't like picking fruits in Central Valley in California because Americans don't want the jobs. Should it be any surprise that few of the CEO is Indian? I'm not bashing Indians it's the way the game is played and sadly Americans are losing.[/QUOTE]I can be dead wrong when we are talking about go go bars in Pattaya. This is a complete opposite case. The tech worker shortage is real. That is why so many engineers are hired a year before their graduation.
How many Indian managers or CEOs have you worked with in the valley?
You know an engineer can get offers from multiple large companies at the same time, right? I don't know how large companies manage to all collude together so they all can underpay engineers and not be competitive while there is a shortage when they can afford it like you stated.
One can rent a one bedroom for that amount in South Bay. Right now, a newly built 3 bedroom with security can be rented for under $3 K in the city. Unless someone like the city life, there is no good reason to live farther, and pay more for less in the city and take gbus to work.
How Americans are losing when H1B visa holders are paying taxes here and eventually become permanent residents. Or do you think just outsource the jobs offshore like manufacturing is better?
Apparently, there are bars in Thailand with ladies working there who are eager to please.
On February 22, the authorities will decide whether to loosen restrictions on bars imposed due to COVID-19.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2533221]Apparently, there are bars in Thailand with ladies working there who are eager to please.[/QUOTE]True, but you'll either need to be really drunk, or do some serious sorting, depending on your taste.
Hopefully it officially opens up soon.
Walking down Soi 4 at night now is surreal, compared to pre-covid.
[QUOTE=Bunky;2533515]That surprises me. After reading dozens of your poorly written posts I had assumed you grew up outside the United States and English was not your mother tongue.
I realize that many gentlemen who normally would be in Thailand at this time of year are not there now. So I expect some diminution in the ISG signal-to-noise ratio. But tedious debates over American immigration policy and anecdotes about the real estate market in the bay area are well and truly off topic. Can we get back to discussing the approved subjects please?[/QUOTE]Harsh language coming!
The best thing you can do for your racist ass is to not read the fucking reports if it doesn't live up to your standards! Remember since you write so well maybe you can try your best to comprehend the rules that writing and spelling aren't a priority! Second, who died and make you the moderator and what is supposed to be " off Topic or not " in a general thread. Like the majority, we post if quoted I respond and give my opinion this isn't a writing contest you obviously as smart as you want people to think you are can't seem to understand that simple fact. As bad as my writing you understood every word of it so that doesn't say much for yourself! But guys like you can't help themselves the closet racist you are comes out! The conversation had ended it was something like 2-4 post silence from the two of us was to end agree to disagree until you stuck your foot in your mouth!
See I'm really more American than you think although I don't write well that doesn't stop me from writing or expressing my opinion. It wasn't because the system didn't provide me with an opportunity to have one I just didn't know it at the time and it didn't help when I started down the wrong path when started it took a while to get back on track. See, when I started going to middle school outside of Chinatown with my cousins the short route was going through the Irish and Italian neighborhood at the park we got stopped and pick on and our lunch money was taken. My cousin rain or shine took the long route I gave them my lunch money each day stubbornly I continue to take the short route although I fought and got off a few good punches I got jumped so each day I showed up to school late and bloody the teachers / principal knew what was happening although I never snitched knew.
One day I got a hold of my older brother pellet gun loaded when stopped like each day before I pull it out I saw white boys run so fast and jump the leader got it right in the face close range when he went down I unloaded the clip on him and stomp on his hands for good measure. Just happen the prick father was a cop for the SFPD in Juvenile court the judge gave me 60 days said if I apologize he would reduce the sentence I basically said go fuck themselves.
So this was a start for me down the road and the court system as a 1st generation Asian and most family members speaking at home native tongue kids like me with low grades due to many reasons were placed in ESL classes the rest of my school life once in tough to get out. Do I blame the system No do I blame the white kids No it was really on me! I know my shortcomings heard it from fuckers my whole life from guys like you growing up " go back to where you came from, correcting grammar and pronunciation when they don't like someone or what is being said they always head in that direction. In spite of people like you, I'm still here standing and talking just like America taught me. In spite of all my shortcomings academically and record I was able to right the ship a bit and finish school, go to City and State college to get a degree.
Saying what you said if you expect me to hide and put my head in the sand feel embarrassed and run and not post you have missed something here! There is a reason I use the handle LBM how I got that is for another time on the general thread. In the end, I will post whatever I like whenever I like within the guidelines of the forum and if you don't like it then use the ignore button like in general as what most cowards like you do on the internet. You opened a can or worms now I will be watching you slip prepare to fall curious " what is the approved subject of a general thread "?
My apologies to all the other members whether I agree or not particularly to the ISG Moderators I'm not trying to be argumentive but I feel if someone got the balls to call me or anyone out then they deserve a response!
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2532280]I have worked directly with several Indian graduates, most were educated in USA. They ranged from among the worst I've ever seen to among the best. Very much like you would find with any other nationality.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with this (mostly if referring to India).
I also worked with many Thais with my job at home and in US contract jobs. And maybe its just bad luck that the bunch I worked with are all lazy asses just wanted to be paid and not really giving a shit about the quality of their jobs. What's worse is they would take shortcuts and do inferior work that others had to put in extra time to fix. So, unfortunately the Thais I worked with in the past (about 30 of them) range from bad to really terrible. And if you are wondering why they were not fired for slacking off or simply not doing their jobs correctly, they were ALL union workers. From what I understand it, its difficult, if not impossible to fire them. Just my experiences as yours could differ if you were luckier than me.
[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2532251] I think it's even becoming an issue in Western countries that have turned higher education into a business. I've heard of lecturers in Australia being pressured to not fail students because the uni makes too much money from overseas students. In one case I heard about, a lecturer wasn't allowed to fail a student who couldn't speak English very well but was studying a Master fo Englist Lit![/QUOTE]This is indeed shocking and hope its not true.
I can't imagine giving out degrees to totally incompetent idiotic grads. Maybe I don't care as much if its business degree or accountants but to pass someone for Any medical degrees or structural engineer, that can potentially kill Or harm many people?
Even though they break the rules with their long and labourious posts, the main thing is sloth. They are too lazy to make an effort to express themselves clearly. On line hookers do a much better job. Also, they have nothing else going on in their lives and think we have to hear about what plucky heroes they were back in the 1930's with Shirley Temple, Mickey Rooney and the others Boyztown was named after.
[QUOTE=Detwing1;2533531]True, but you'll either need to be really drunk, or do some serious sorting, depending on your taste.
Hopefully it officially opens up soon.
Walking down Soi 4 at night now is surreal, compared to pre-covid.[/QUOTE]