Pattaya Reports

Pekkakoo. At the risk of stereotyping, I spot your name as Finnish. So here is a story from a couple of decades ago. Staying in a beachfront hotel in Hikkaduwa, Sri Lanka, I was drafted as a troubleshooter for the owner.

There was a group of Finnish tourists staying at the hotel. One was a man on the crutches who was always drunk. No problem. But he had come with a girfriend from Finland, a common street hoe from Kemi, who soon began favoring locals. This left the boyfriend with his sap rising. One day he tried to get physical with a housekeeper, a straitlaced Muslim lady. That's when the owner came knocking, knowing I knew Finnish and was reasonably sober.

There were all kinds of additional developments in the next few days. At the end the hotel owner said to me: "What a pity, such a young man. He spent a lot of money to come all the way here and had no fun."

I responded: "What makes you think so? He seems to be having a wonderful time."

To Pekkakoo: Not to worry, mate. You are having fun too. You may not remember much but you get drunk and full-serviced on a regular basis. Lots of us envy you.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1434961]On other days I was too drunk too . Pattaya disappointment, maybe my tactics were wrong, you shouldn't drink too long and you could get quality out of a agogo early, but I just don't like to call it a night after 10-11pm. Want to see more bars and girls and then suddenly all the decent girls are taken already.[/QUOTE]Ya think? Look, some guys like to drink a lot. I get that, but clearly too much booze kills the good times for most us. I used to smoke a lot of weed and do Ludes (A LOT!). It was great, but in all honesty it affected my sexual performance and limited my female choices adversely. Shagging quality Asian girls is now my number one objective when I travel. I don't let anything get in the way of that including booze, drugs, or money. And I have great times in BKK, Pattaya, AC, Subic, Manila, Singapore, and Macau. Get your shit together Pekkakoo and you will have a much better time and with way better girls.

Here is a suggestion: find a girl early, have a couple of drinks with her to loosen things up and get to know her a little, then barfine her ST, shag her, and afterwards return to the bars with her or without her and party it up while at the same time checking for more talent to hit up the next night. There is nothing wrong with barfining a 2nd gal later in the night, if you find a good one. But if you are shitfaced that probably won't happen. Your trip report confirms this.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1434443]Heard of Baccara, Devils Den and Glasshouse, will definitely check them out.[/QUOTE]Firstly I'm really glad you enjoyed my diary and it helped you plan your trip. I recommend visiting as many gogo bars as possible and drawing up a mental shortlist of where your favourite girls work. This way you'll get a good feel for Pattaya and find bars that suit you. Walking Street has some big bars that employ lots of girls but Glasshouse is a small bar that had some nice girls at cheaper prices. It's certainly worth a quick beer at the very least. Gems can definitely be found in the smaller bars (which also tend not to attract large groups of Japanese tourists). Half the fun is looking.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1434443]Another rookie question: when speaking to a girl you like, do you generally tell her what you'd like to do with her before going up in a room? I guess that the answer is yes (as in Spain) but still, I'd like not to act as a first time Pattaya visitor (not to get ripped off)[/QUOTE]Actually, the answer is no. My modus operandi when I meet girls is to try to make it as little like a business transaction as possible. I'll see a girl I like and buy her drink and we'll chat and get to know each other, I'll try to have fun with her and make her laugh and play silly little games (a good one is 'stares' when you've got to stare closely in to each others eyes and the person who loses is the one who laughs first. One of the reasons I do this is that I've got blue eyes which Thai girls love!). Basically for half an hour I'll try to make them as relaxed as possible, hold hands, dance together in the seat and smile as much as possible, without once discussing 'business'. If they act coldly then I'll either move on or buy her another drink. The aim is to get her to think that you're a nice, friendly guy.

A couple more things to consider. Some girls ask "you been here before?". Never let on you are a beginner or she will quote high. Another thing is think of your appearance. A LOT of guys in Pattaya go in to gogo bars wearing shorts and a T-shirt. If you make an effort with your appearance and wear a nice shirt for example, the girls will notice. Maybe wear aftershave too as some girls think it's the height of luxury. If you take care of your appearance not only does it make you more desirable, it hints that you might be more generous. If you do these things then the girl will want your custom more than if you are very serious and ask 'do you do anal? ' within five minutes of meeting her. Most girls have a lower-price and a higher-price that they can quote and it's your job to make sure that you get quoted the lower price.

When it comes time to talk money, either say something like "I really like you, would you like to go to my hotel with me. 1500 short-time? Tip if you make me smile?" or just ask her how much for short-time and when they tell you 2000 baht, say "1500 plus tip if you make me smile". They'll accept more times than not. Just make sure you do your research on this forum about what the correct prices are in gogo bars.

I never list my expectations but that's because I don't look for anal or CIM, I just want a BJ and sex. If you have special requirements ask when you are agreeing the price. If she looks uncertain you can say "if do anal, I give tip" with a smile. Just make sure you live up to your word if she accepts. I know most experienced mongers list terms and conditions in the bar (I. E how long, exactly what is expected) but I prefer my way. Sometimes it can backfire and the girl may ask to leave early but more often that not I get the girlfriend experience I crave, I get kisses and cuddles afterwards and I get their phone number.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;1434443]Do you think, a cellphone would be useful for 5 or 6 days of action there? From some of your posts, it feels like you can "book" LT's late in the evening[/QUOTE]A cellphone is essential. I just take my own from England but there is lots of good advice on this page about buying cheap local phones. You will meet many girls from the massage parlours and gogo bars who you really 'click' with, who you would like to meet again. You can arrange a second meeting either during the afternoon (gogo girls) or at night (massage girls) for much reduced rates. Not only is it cheaper for you, the girls pocket all of the proceeds without their bar / MP taking their cut.

The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. But it wasn't as bad as the flooding on Sept. 11, 2011, around 2nd Road and Pattaya Tai, when I was at times wading in water that was nearly up to my waist and it took five hours to do a 15-minute walk. The water along LK Metro / Soi Bukhao wasn't anywhere near as deep as it had been in 2011 on 2nd Road / Pattaya Tai, nor was it moving nearly as fast.

I had been on a bar crawl to go gos on LK Metro and tried to navigate Soi Diana to get home, but the water was up to my knees and rushing fast. I retreated to the Rockhouse again, had another beer, then tried heading in the opposite direction on LK Metro. Stopped off at the Drunken Duck for awhile, then set out again at about 1. 30 a. M. Surprisingly, the baht buses were still running and the water wasn't very deep at the intersection of LK Metro / Soi Bukhao, but it got increasingly worse as we headed towards Pattaya Klang. Unluckily for me, the bus turned right instead of left on Klang. I got off, but the water was too deep for me to feel comfortable about trying to walk the rest of the way home. Too many potholes, too much shit in the water you couldn't see. I waited an hour or so for a lot of it to run off, then crossed the street and got home without further problem. The water wasn't a problem along 2nd Road.

Even moderate flooding like on June 12-13 is more than just an irritation. Because of the poor condition of the electrical cables that hang everywhere, there's a real danger of electrocution. Several visitors have been electrocuted in past years. I didn't hear about any deaths this time, but at least one guy got a very bad electrical shock that resulted in his hospitalization.

Also, the flood water is about as toxic a mix as you can imagine. If you have to wade through it, make sure you're up-to-date with your tetanus shots. If you get any of it in your mouth, head directly to the hospital. Your clothes will of course have to be washed and your shoes not only allowed to dry out but disinfected as well. Keep in mind, too, that the streets and sidewalks of Pattaya are full of potholes, loose paving stones, accumulated garbage and other obstacles you can't see under the water. The flooding sweeps a lot of flotsam along with it, making walking a major hazard, especially if you're a bit drunk.

Best advice. When a heavy downpour begins at night, either head for your hotel ASAP or wait it out, all night if necessary, in a bar or short-time hotel. Don't risk walking any distance through flood water. There's a very thin line between a dream vacation and the nightmare of a lifetime.

Evil

Timely and appreciative post. I always stay at VT 6 and will be back there within two weeks. I know it is the rainy season and this reinforces the thought to be prepared.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435088]The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. Snipped.

Evil[/QUOTE]

Will be in Pattaya in September which is the month I have visited for the past few years. I've experience rain and minimal flooding but nothing like what I see in the pics. Have I been lucky or does the rain lessen in September?

Also can I rent a place in VT6 for just one week?

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435088]The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. But it wasn't as bad as the flooding on Sept. 11, 2011, around 2nd Road and Pattaya Tai, when I was at times wading in water that was nearly up to my waist and it took five hours to do a 15-minute walk. The water along LK Metro / Soi Bukhao wasn't anywhere near as deep as it had been in 2011 on 2nd Road / Pattaya Tai, nor was it moving nearly as fast...[/QUOTE]Where are the Jetskies when you really need them?

Interesting pics, Evil. I agree entirely with your advice on floods in Pattaya. I was there for the Sept 11, 2011 floods and underwater and in-water hazards, both physical and bacterial were a huge concern.

I'll be back in November this year when I'm not expecting flood inducing rain. And I'm staying VT6. I guess if you stay there you can always access Central Festival even in the worst of weather and get fed there. If you have a TG staying with you life's good. If not, maybe you can find one in the mall.

[QUOTE=Allover; 1435170]Will be in Pattaya in September which is the month I have visited for the past few years. I've experience rain and minimal flooding but nothing like what I see in the pics. Have I been lucky or does the rain lessen in September?

Also can I rent a place in VT6 for just one week?[/QUOTE]September is actually the second-wettest month in Pattaya, according to the charts. An average of 8" of rain for the month, with the skies opening on 17 days out of 30. It's topped only by October with 10" of precipitation and 18 rain days. Of course, it can vary from year to year, but the very worst flooding I've seen in Pattaya occurred on Sept 11, 2011. Others have said it was even worse than that in September and October of 2007.

Yes, you can rent a VT6 condo for a week. Several agencies handle short-term VT6 rentals. Just do a Google search for VT6 and the names will pop up. VTSIX is one and Dancewatchers is another.

[QUOTE=Jgm005;1435092]Timely and appreciative post. I always stay at VT 6 and will be back there within two weeks. I know it is the rainy season and this reinforces the thought to be prepared.[/QUOTE]Pack a pair of substantial water-resistant shoes. You don't want to be tramping through flood water in sandals.

Evil

Apologies for a newbie question. My flight is arriving relatively late at 10:10PM and figure I'll end up getting to my hotel around between 12-12:30AM. I'm staying at the Dusit D2 and wanted to have a LT session on arrival. Is my best bet to head over to LK Metro (Oasis, Champagne, The Office or Kiss)?

Much appreciate any feedback.

[QUOTE=CalvinH; 1435435]Apologies for a newbie question. My flight is arriving relatively late at 10:10PM and figure I'll end up getting to my hotel around between 12-12:30AM. I'm staying at the Dusit D2 and wanted to have a LT session on arrival. Is my best bet to head over to LK Metro (Oasis, Champagne, The Office or Kiss)?

Much appreciate any feedback.[/QUOTE]No. Head to the temple on the South Pattaya Road almost opposite the school close to the traffic lights.

I'm glad members mentioned about the rainy months before I actually book my trip.

I had originally planned to go at the beginning of September, but now I'm considering pushing it back to mid-August. Would that time be much better?

[QUOTE=CalvinH; 1435435]Apologies for a newbie question. My flight is arriving relatively late at 10:10PM and figure I'll end up getting to my hotel around between 12-12:30AM. I'm staying at the Dusit D2 and wanted to have a LT session on arrival. Is my best bet to head over to LK Metro (Oasis, Champagne, The Office or Kiss)?

Much appreciate any feedback.[/QUOTE]Assuming it takes you 30 minutes to shower, unpack a bit and change clothes, you'll be ready to head out by 1. 00 a. M. At that time, just about all of Pattaya will still be at your feet and there are several thousand places where you could arrange L / T. The only area that would be largely closed is Soi 6. The Dusit D2 is conveniently located for either Walking Street or LK Metro. There are also many beer bars on the way, particularly if you head to LK Metro via Soi Diana.

Evil

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435088]The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. But it wasn't as bad as the flooding on Sept. 11, 2011, around 2nd Road and Pattaya Tai, when I was at times wading in water that was nearly up to my waist and it took five hours to do a 15-minute walk. The water along LK Metro / Soi Bukhao wasn't anywhere near as deep as it had been in 2011 on 2nd Road / Pattaya Tai, nor was it moving nearly as fast. Best advice. When a heavy downpour begins at night, either head for your hotel ASAP or wait it out, all night if necessary, in a bar or short-time hotel. Don't risk walking any distance through flood water. There's a very thin line between a dream vacation and the nightmare of a lifetime.

Evil[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you and feet and legs with a wound are a welcome gate for bacteria. Nevertheless, September last I was in similar situation in BKK, Nana area, where else, and I was truly surprised to see the water, ankle height, not much different from your pictures, was clear. Of course it does not mean it is clean, far from me to say that.

But taking into account the poor cleaning level you have in BKK streets (your description applies to nearly every where in SEA) I was expecting lots of things flaoting, including. Rats!

To cross the street I took courage and went into the water to go back to the hotel. There was no way to bypass that, anywhere.

You need to take a bit of courage, not have wounds in your lower areas of the legs and. Be a bit luck. Then take a deep shower.

I did this with flip flops: at the end of the day they do not protect you much less than shoes as water goes in anyhow. Water that is potentially full of bacteria, clear or not it is.

It is like with Songkran: either you stay confined in your hotel room or be ready to get wet any minute.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435627]Assuming it takes you 30 minutes to shower, unpack a bit and change clothes, you'll be ready to head out by 1. 00 am At that time, just about all of Pattaya will still be at your feet and there are several thousand places where you could arrange L / T. The only area that would be largely closed is Soi 6. The Dusit D2 is conveniently located for either Walking Street or LK Metro. There are also many beer bars on the way, particularly if you head to LK Metro via Soi Diana.

Evil[/QUOTE]Good looking out Evil. Appreciate the feedback. When I was in Bangkok, it seemed to thin out past 1am. Seems like Pattaya might be a little different.