Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

According to the well documented website [url]http://www.aliveandwell.org/[/url], Professor Montagnier, the 2008 Nobel Prize laureate for his work on HIV, offers in a film interview from 2007some really startling remarks that make him sound more like an "AIDS dissident" than an HIV advocate:

• HIV alone cannot cause AIDS, it requires co-factors
• Oxidative stress is the most important co-factor
• The immune systems of people that are healthy and properly nourished render HIV harmless
• Antiretroviral drugs for AIDS are toxic, do not specifically target HIV, and cannot be tolerated over the course of a lifetime

The website offers startling revelations about why Professor Gallo, who claimed he found that what was causing AIDS was a retrovirus called HIV and has been presented for 25 years as the “inventor” of HIV, was simply ignored by the Nobel academy.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]For example, a guy masterbates with lube for 30 minutes while a TG is licking his balls and fingering his asshole, all 3 at the same time. By then the feeling is getting pretty good and the hotdog is rock solid. At that point fucking her with or without the condom would not feel any different.[/QUOTE]

Nonsense. I don't care how much ball-licking or asshole-fingering is accomplished prior to coitus (and I should note I'm not a fan of either), the condomless sex will still feel tremendously better than the condom-sex.

[QUOTE=Seydlitz]According to the well documented website [url]http://www.aliveandwell.org/[/url], Professor Montagnier, the 2008 Nobel Prize laureate for his work on HIV, offers in a film interview from 2007some really startling remarks that make him sound more like an "AIDS dissident" than an HIV advocate:[/QUOTE]It's on the internet! It must be true!

[QUOTE=Seydlitz]• HIV alone cannot cause AIDS, it requires co-factors[/QUOTE]Possibly, so what?
[QUOTE=Seydlitz]• Oxidative stress is the most important co-factor[/QUOTE]Oxidative stress, caused by normal metabolism of sugars
[QUOTE=Seydlitz]• The immune systems of people that are healthy and properly nourished render HIV harmless[/QUOTE]Except for those who have died.
[QUOTE=Seydlitz]• Antiretroviral drugs for AIDS are toxic, do not specifically target HIV, and cannot be tolerated over the course of a lifetime
[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct, although with the caveat that 'lifetime' is considerably shorter without them.

[QUOTE=Seydlitz]The website offers startling revelations about why Professor Gallo, who claimed he found that what was causing AIDS was a retrovirus called HIV and has been presented for 25 years as the “inventor” of HIV, was simply ignored by the Nobel academy.[/QUOTE]Or you might prefer this link:

[url]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEFDA103DF932A05751C1A964958260&sec=health&pagewanted=print[/url]

[QUOTE=Vito Corleone]What do you mean I'm funny. Like a clown I amuse you.[/QUOTE]



PinkPearl "Please accept my apologies for that post, which was really harsh".


"When they found PinkPearl in the meat truck, he was frozen so stiff it took them three days to thaw him out for the autopsy".

[QUOTE=Opebo]Nonsense. I don't care how much ball-licking or asshole-fingering is accomplished prior to coitus (and I should note I'm not a fan of either), the condomless sex will still feel tremendously better than the condom-sex.[/QUOTE]Maybe for you, but not for me. And in your case I suggest it may be so, but only because your mind has been brainwashed to such an extent that it is affecting your body to feel that way. In a similar manner as a placebo works to heal a sick person. Or one who is psychotic and delusional may be scared to death even though there is no real danger.

IOW, your mind has been deluded to believe that condom sex will not feel as good for you as going bareback. So it "makes it so". Mind over matter, as they say. It is a fact that sex is a very mental thing, and one's frame of mind will affect the experience.

But that is nothing that some reeducation and or psychiatic counselling cannot correct. Maybe AA, NA, or GA would be a good place for you to start. BTW, those are not names of TGs who insist on using a condom.

As to how one becomes brainwashed in your way, I have a few theories.

But the evidence of self deception is there in the quote above. And from comments you've made in the past, such as a reference to "fucking a condom" being contrasted with bareback. As long as you continue to think in these terms you will be biased, fail to be objective, and feel better without a condom.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Interesting. But not really dealing with the issue. Like I hinted at before, if you get stimulated for a certain time before vaginal intercourse, then using the condom for banging her will feel just as good as without it.

For example, a guy masterbates with lube for 30 minutes while a TG is licking his balls and fingering his asshole, all 3 at the same time. By then the feeling is getting pretty good and the hotdog is rock solid. At that point fucking her with or without the condom would not feel any different.

So there is really no need to go without a condom. Unless it is your objective to make babies or pass on STDs.[/QUOTE]Not dealing with the issue? Really? You said:

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]I have already provided several proofs that using the condom can feel just as good as without it, if not better."[/QUOTE]And I answered:

[QUOTE=Goyave]Sorry, but you can provide all the "proofs" you want, but with or without extra lube inside the condom, the sensations (in my own case) are better without a condom... it does not mean that I'm advocating uncovered sex (and I won't go bareback with girls whom I don't know for sure their STD/HIV health status), but what you're saying is just untrue (again, at least in my own case).[/QUOTE]Imho, the issue is not whether "uncovered" sex is or not safer than "covered" sex. Nobody seriously contests this point: covered sex is safer. But saying that "using a condom can feel just as good as without if, if not better" is. Despite what you are saying. Unproven, and untrue in a great majority of cases. Actually, you are apparently alone here thinking alike.

Moreover, you example is irrelevant and certainly not a "proof".

Again, I am not advocating uncovered sex (bis repetita placent), but you have to admit that a covered blow job (for instance) performed by the same girl with an equal mastery can't provide you the same agreeable sensations than an uncovered one. The difference is even more obvious if the girl has poor skills.

With or without lube inside them, do you see often a guy caressing his girlfriend's hair with surgeon gloves? You should try it as you believe that the sensation can be "as good as or even better than without" them.

Your cause (advocating safe sex) is laudable, but you're using a wrong argument here.

But Pink, even if I sit in this chair naked, I feel it more than when I'm wearing trousers.

I should think my claims that one feels a thing more when one touches it than when one is separated from it are fairly uncontroversial.

I don't give a toss about any of this philosophizing about what feels better.

The topic, if I'm correct, is about Safe sex in Thailand.. maybe I read it wrong.

The point is that if I have HPV, warts, herpes, Hep C, or whatever, and go out and give it bareback to a few 100 girls, and especially the places I know that you frequent.. chances are you're gonna get a nice gift.

But this is the sort of behavior you're advocating..

So in the end do what you want to do.. or what you think feels better. Who cares?

[QUOTE=Opebo]But Pink, even if I sit in this chair naked, I feel it more than when I'm wearing trousers.

I should think my claims that one feels a thing more when one touches it than when one is separated from it are fairly uncontroversial.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Freeman 418]
The point is that if I have HPV, warts, herpes, Hep C, or whatever, and go out and give it bareback to a few 100 girls, and especially the places I know that you frequent.. chances are you're gonna get a nice gift.
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I am no doctor but, I think if she has herpes, the rubber won't make a difference, you'll still catch it.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I am no doctor but, I think if she has herpes, the rubber won't make a difference, you'll still catch it.[/QUOTE]Apparently, it does make a difference.

[QUOTE=Wikipedia][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condom[/url]

Condoms are widely recommended for the prevention of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). They have been shown to be effective in reducing infection rates in both men and women. [b]While not perfect, the condom is effective at reducing the transmission of HIV, genital herpes, genital warts, syphilis, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and other diseases.[/b]
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A 2006 study reports that proper condom use decreases the risk of transmission for human papillomavirus by approximately 70%. [b]Another study in the same year found consistent condom use was effective at reducing transmission of herpes simplex virus-2 also known as genital herpes, in both men and women.[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I am no doctor but, I think if she has herpes, the rubber won't make a difference, you'll still catch it.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean you'll catch it from BBBJ or something else?

Once a doctor told me I had herpes cold sores on the mouth.
Fortunately I then saw a skin specialist who said it obviously wasn't. Just a bacterial infection that responded very well to anti-biotics. I got lucky!

Later I was not so lucky when doctors failed to give me anti-biotics for an eye infection thinking it was a virus. 4 weeks of suffering ensued.

I now think its better to just take the anti-biotics to at least eliminate common bacterial infections.

There's many herpes virus types.. it's my understanding that the genital type isn't commonly transmitted through mouth contact. People who already get cold sores around their mouth have at least one type.

And yeah.. rubbers do give some form of barrier for genital herpes.. makes sense if there's an outbreak on in and around her vagina, and only the rubber makes contact.. not 100%, but way better than nothing.

As for antibiotics, they won't do anything for a virus, but for bacteria, yeah they're a good bomb attack. I don't abuse them though (oral ones) because they do horrid things to the digestive system and whipe out any form of "good" bacteria as well.



[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Do you mean you'll catch it from BBBJ or something else?

Once a doctor told me I had herpes cold sores on the mouth.
Fortunately I then saw a skin specialist who said it obviously wasn't. Just a bacterial infection that responded very well to anti-biotics. I got lucky!

Later I was not so lucky when doctors failed to give me anti-biotics for an eye infection thinking it was a virus. 4 weeks of suffering ensued.

I now think its better to just take the anti-biotics to at least eliminate common bacterial infections.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Freeman 418]
And yeah.. rubbers do give some form of barrier for genital herpes.. makes sense if there's an outbreak on in and around her vagina, and only the rubber makes contact.. not 100%, but way better than nothing.[/QUOTE]
So could Herpes be caught somewhere other than dick (covered by condom) like balls etc.? or is this rather unlikely?

You can get genital herpes on the mouth with the right contacts. Heere are search links

[url]http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=herpes+mouth+genital&btnG=Search&meta=[/url]

If you fuck dirty people, you can get dirty diseases. So far, I have been lucky. (I think).

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]So could Herpes be caught somewhere other than dick (covered by condom) like balls etc.? or is this rather unlikely?[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, herpes is transmitted through tiny breaks in the skin - which are most likely to occur in mucuous membranes (mouth, genitals). So assuming you don't scratch your balls to violenty, they shouldn't be in danger ;)

However, the different types of herpes can travel. In an interview, a researcher recently commented that they nowadays find types typically causing cold sores and mouth ulcers in other regions (and vice versa) - obviously reflecting changes in sexual practices ...