Manila

[QUOTE=Amavida;1593629]Reluctantly Manila for two days prior to flying down to Dipolog on business. My hotel is right across the road from the infamous EDSA complex. Never bothered with it but curiosity finally got the best of me.

Looks seedy on the outside especially in the day time. Lots of neon advertising different named bars. I walk in through the single entrance. Gaggles of Koreans looking intense (do these dudes ever smile or relax? They look very tourists doing golf swings & trying not to make eye contact with others.

I'm not given any choice, very politely but firmly guided down to the left hand end to something called Samba. Obviously the RK's don't want us whiteys touching their primo stock.

I enter, music at reasonable volume, 20 odd girls in skimpy bikinis. All range from nice to very nice indeed facially. All have bikini bodies. I'd shag any of them.
After some chit chat & bonding she's asking me if I'd like to take her out. Hell yes. We get up & have a little fun dancing in the bar to liven things up. An RK bar manager is screaming something at the dancers. The girl tells me he's ordering them to dance & smile. They completely ignore him as only Pinay's can.
So now the bill shock. Bar manager demands P1950 bar fine + P4000 for the girl all payable in advance in the bar.I know some of you guy's are gagging & reaching for the keyboard.

In the interests if field research I take one for the team & pay up.

We grab a taxi to drop off her bag at my hotel & then head for Exclusiv an upmarket disco / night club. On the way she asks when I'm back in town & volunteers to miss a shift to give me a freeby next week. Shit we only in the cab 5 minutes!

Cheers.

AV.[/QUOTE]Was just at EDSA in June, and that is true, mamasans will quote you the price for the girl also. ST-3000 LT-4000. The barfine I have never been able to negotiate, but I always tell the mamasan that what I pay the girl is between her and me. They have always said, "OK". Most girls are ok with 3000 for all night. Some say 2,500. I did take a girl from Samba for 2 nights (went back and barfined again the second night, cause I did not know how she would be on the first night) and got huge discount the second night.

Incidentally, will be back in Manila (EDSA) in November. Anyone want me to check on their EDSA girlfriends?

[QUOTE=FLT09;1593687]Nice FR. Some of the best GFE I have had in PI has been with girls from EDSA. I keep in touch with 2 of them, good 3 some experience, and meet up with them when I go back to Manila. I haven't heard of paying the tip upfront. Did you give it to the girl or the manager? I hope the girl got all of that tip.[/QUOTE]It was put to me that this had to be paid on the spot in the bar. Maybe they lose too many girls due to cheap Charlie's & creeps underpaying at the conclusion of the EWR?

I'm not one for haggling the price of sex. I feel it puts the girl in a, shall we say, less generous frame of mind. For me its a buy / don't buy.

I queried the girl both in bar & again next morning as to whether she would be getting all the P4000. She confirmed that was the case.

She kept going on apologeticalky about expensive the EWR was. She asked when I was back in town & declared that Wednesday was not her day off but happy to throw a shift to give us all day & night. Very clearly stated this gratis & refused to discuss compensation. "No need".

This is not due to my rugged good looks or sexual prowess. Its a Pinoy sense of fairness & she enjoys our outings. Simple. I'm not going to abuse her generosity.

BTW I slipped her a blue note tip at the end of the EWR. Yes I know its over the odds but people practice tipping here & if you understand it they look at you in a different light. Being around someone who tips properly generously is a big prestige thing for them.

Next weeks freeby significantly cuts my outlay / investment in this girl. Mongering is a rich mans sport none the less.

Cheers.

AV.

I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.

Cheers.

AV.

My EDSA experiences have been good. The first girl I BF in Phil was from EDSA, the girl I referred to last time. The next trip I went to EDSA and she ran up to me right away. I ended up with her and her friend without paying BF as they met me in my hotel when their shift was over. Waiting is not a problem for me as I usually stay out late barhopping. I just head back to Burgos and have fun with the girls in the bar until I am ready to head back to the hotel.

Each time I have been to EDSA I have paid a 2 k tip, always negotiated down. I might get an edge being a younger guy, of maybe I just pick the right girls. I have only once passed on a girl that refused to move off her 5 k asking price. She was young and a complete stunner though. The little spinner type that I prefer, still regret not ponying up.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1593814]I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.

Cheers.

AV.[/QUOTE]Was that P4000 consumable? I have been trying to get some idea of table prices at the clubs leading up to my next visit.

[QUOTE=FLT09;1593865]Was that P4000 consumable? I have been trying to get some idea of table prices at the clubs leading up to my next visit.[/QUOTE]Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.

I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?

Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.

[URL]http://manilaclubbing.com[/URL]

AV.

I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1593887]I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.[/QUOTE]He is too busy berating people in the Seoul forum for partaking in any type of p4 p.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1593884]Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.

I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?

Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.

[URL]http://manilaclubbing.com[/URL]

AV.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I definitely plan on mixing it up a bit and hitting a club or two. I checked that site out before, didn't see much for table prices and what not. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.

Ok, I wasn't looking hard enough. Getting the information I need.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1593814]I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.

Cheers.

AV.[/QUOTE]Just add in a little info. I bang one bird quite regulary and she has her hunting grounds from the place in mention. She tells me the FL operation is a so so operation but sometimes the girls also like to get som money worth if possible. It is not a mandatory operation and all out from the normal mechanism. I hear her friends go for both 2 and 3 k LT if they like the guy. Just saying.

It is probably a tad unfair to the pinays but I donate 3 K for real LT play both in Bangkok and in Manila, hehe.

[QUOTE=FLT09;1593910]He is too busy berating people in the Seoul forum for partaking in any type of p4 p.

Thanks for the info. I definitely plan on mixing it up a bit and hitting a club or two. I checked that site out before, didn't see much for table prices and what not. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.[/QUOTE]If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.

AV.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1593953]If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.

AV.[/QUOTE]I was planning on hitting the club for a night out, bringing my own company, not scouting for FL. Thanks for the tip though, definitely something people should think about.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1593953]If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.

AV.[/QUOTE]You can probably get beat up from one reason or another but spotting a FL in crowded space is easy due to their use of eyes. If they "fuck you" with their eyes you can be pretty sure it is a FL or you are tremendious handsome as in you score all over the world wherever you choose to go. If they eyeball you as there is no tomorrow you can take for granted it is a Fl. Most regular pinays avoid eyecontact.

Just as a tip if the place is crowded. On the other half ofcourse it is easier to spot a FL in a empty environment.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1593884]Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.

I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?

Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.

[URL]http://manilaclubbing.com[/URL]

AV.[/QUOTE]Exclusiv is very much my go-to club. It's not too high-end like Prive or Republic nor is it overrun with Koreans like Zzyzx - I should point out that these three places attract a lot of fine women. Exclusiv is mostly a Filipino crowd and that's the way I like it. The only assholes I encountered there were foreigners and on occasion a Filipino gay guy tried to be overly friendly with me. I always get a bottle of rum at approx p2000 plus mixers, and since they've stored it for me for the next time I visited I wasn't subject to any base consumable charge on the next occasion. I've had many nights there when I had a dancefloor-side table and just needed to buy a few mixers to finish off my bottle and my bill came to less than p500. I use the same waiter and I tip him generously. One night I did have a different waiter who, after bringing me my stored bottle, told me that there was a p2000 consumable charge. I objected and he relented. So keep in mind the drinking-while-white scam may happen. There are FLs there and, fair warning, this includes ladyboys - for a period of several weeks the hottest FL "girl" was a stunning LB and she was always picking up foreign blokes. When I go clubbing I like to bring a girl with me, and when I go to the CR have encountered girls giving me the hard FL eye and chatting me up. One night I came back to my table and found a t-bird lesbian was hitting on my girl. I don't go there til after 1 am and then just the weekends. I tried a couple of weeknights and it was typically dead. Filipino paydays changes this.

If you want to make a night of it in the immediate area first catch a live band at Bellagio Square (on weekends) or Cowboy Grill (any night) and then go to Exclusiv later.

My last visit to the Phills it seemed like I was hemoraging money for ladydrinks on girls who either were cherrygirls, it was "that time of month", they "dance only", or some other bs like they had foriegn bf and only barfined to go bar hoping but no sex.

They seemed shocked that I didn't know this before asking to buy them a drink. How are you supposed to know? I notice some have special sashes or they dressed different. Waitresses were little help as they would insist all the girls I asked about were available for sex.

Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. Seemed like a Manila thing, the only problem I had in Angelos City was not being Korean. Seems the stunners at some bars will only leave with Korean customers. Did not have that problem at Crystal Palace or Tropix so mainly pulled from there.

Still, it happened now and again and I would prefer not to waste money on lady drinks I do not have to.

Also, on my return thru Manilla I hit up AKB48 KTV and the other KTVs around there. All girls at these clubs seemed to indicate no sex was possible with any of the girls. But I find that unlikely. The girls there were very fine mostly and maybe I was aproaching the wrong girls?