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[QUOTE=Horatio;2543286]I hope to be back to Thailand this summer and would like to stay 9 months or maybe longer. Is that going to be hard to do? I have stayed 5 months before by leaving and coming back. I can get a muay thai school to say I am a student if that helps.
Can a person do visal runs now or is that not needed. ? What's your best guess for the future?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can get an education visa.
Visa runs are difficult because of quarantine requirements.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2542888]True Mr. E. While others require for the same money she f**ks him every night of the week and what's more the hoe should be grateful for his generosity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2542909]1 night's work? Speaking for Bangkok, there are still many go-go girls, Thermae girls and escorts holding to that much for just 1-2 hours of middling service. And punters are paying it.[/QUOTE]They pay it because "it's still cheaper than back home and you end up saving from the whole trip because everything is cheaper."
The logic is just.
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2543825]They pay it because "it's still cheaper than back home and you end up saving from the whole trip because everything is cheaper."
The logic is just.[/QUOTE]What's funny is that its a fact guys travel to Asia to fuck women as its "cheaper than back home" and yet they are the first to call "cheap charlie" guys who can get away with pay less the the very same girls they are fucking. Can anyone spell hypocrite?
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2543825]They pay it because "it's still cheaper than back home and you end up saving from the whole trip because everything is cheaper."
The logic is just.[/QUOTE]I agree it's cheaper here but to "end up saving from the whole trip" to make any sense you would have to be paying significantly more for P4P and to be unusually active back home. That said no matter where one plays I guess it comes down to who with. Here a pick up at a go go will set you back an average of $150, more if you like a few drinks along the way and select one of the higher end girls at the more popular bars. Drinks are no cheaper here unless you like rotgut local whiskey and your latte at Starbucks costs 4 $. There are cheaper options online, at massage shops and on the street but add in cost of getting here and accommodation and I feel you can understand what I mean when I say it's difficult to "end up saving from the whole trip".
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2544046]What's funny is that its a fact guys travel to Asia to fuck women as its "cheaper than back home" and yet they are the first to call "cheap charlie" guys who can get away with pay less the the very same girls they are fucking. Can anyone spell hypocrite?[/QUOTE]It's not pricing in different countries that determines a Cheap Charlie, its behavior where ever you are. If you qualify as consistently miserly, giving as little as possible, be a peel an orange in your pocket type you're most likely a cheap Charlie. For some that's just being smart while others find it an unattractive personality trait. For me the red line is not taking advantage of a girl's circumstance or to insist because 300 baht is the daily minimum wage they should be grateful when offered 500 baht for sex.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2543286]I hope to be back to Thailand this summer and would like to stay 9 months or maybe longer. Is that going to be hard to do?[/QUOTE]Get an STV, it's a 9-month visa, with some caveats. I think they're discontinuing them (last entry) in July, but that might be wrong info. I don't think visa runs are going to be a thing for about a year. Even if Thailand opens up, finding a place to run to could be an issue (read: expensive).
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2544046]What's funny is that its a fact guys travel to Asia to fuck women as its "cheaper than back home" and yet they are the first to call "cheap charlie" guys who can get away with pay less the the very same girls they are fucking. Can anyone spell hypocrite?[/QUOTE]I think one should never call another monger a cheap charlie. Obviously one is free to pay what one likes for Asian dolls but one should never say hurtful things about other mongers.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2544104]It's not pricing in different countries that determines a Cheap Charlie, its behavior where ever you are. If you qualify as consistently miserly, giving as little as possible, be a peel an orange in your pocket type you're most likely a cheap Charlie. For some that's just being smart while others find it an unattractive personality trait. For me the red line is not taking advantage of a girl's circumstance or to insist because 300 baht is the daily minimum wage they should be grateful when offered 500 baht for sex.[/QUOTE]Seems to me from the perspective of someone living in your native country whether it be USA, Aust, Canada etc, you going to Asia to take advantage a girls poverty " to pay as little as possible" relative to western sexconomy, then you are taking advantage of a girls circumstances. That is if she wasn't a citizen of Thai, Philippines etc you wouldn't be able to fuck her for 3-4-5-6 k whatever price you pay.
Dirt poor bar girls calling farang Cheap Charlie for refusal to buy drinks for each of the 6 girls in the bar is ridiculous. Ring the bell! 555. No thanks. I've never done that.
I do tend to pay top dollar for my favored go-go girl when I bar fine her. But, I pay much less 2 days later when I use Line to arrange a date. Perhaps I am a Cheap Charlie.
As long as a person is honest and doesn't decieve I don't think someone is a cheap charlie in the bad sense of the word if they are cheap. I'm a bit of a cheap charlie in that I don't want to spend a lot. But I don't want a girl thinking I cheated her. Groping a girl then leaving without tipping seems wrong to me. But groping a girl after telling her you only have 100 baht left after paying for drinks seems ok if she allows it.
Let the woman know and do whatever is agreeable between the two of you. Some woman might prefer a little money over no money.
The thing I don't understand is the punters that say high spenders ruin it for them because it raises the price. Why would some high spender care about some cheap charlie' money over a girl he's having sex with? Some girl from isaan can use the money more then some guy from usa. This is not to say people should pay too much but it's to say spend whatever amount you want and the girl accepts. If you want to be cheap, be cheap. If you want to ring the bell ten times a night, have at it. It's not my money.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2544234]Dirt poor bar girls calling farang Cheap Charlie for refusal to buy drinks for each of the 6 girls in the bar is ridiculous. Ring the bell! 555. No thanks. I've never done that.
I do tend to pay top dollar for my favored go-go girl when I bar fine her. But, I pay much less 2 days later when I use Line to arrange a date. Perhaps I am a Cheap Charlie.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2544234]Dirt poor bar girls calling farang Cheap Charlie for refusal to buy drinks for each of the 6 girls in the bar is ridiculous. Ring the bell! 555. No thanks. I've never done that.[/QUOTE]That is called marketing. The same way that DeBeers shamed hundreds of millions of people to pay an obscene amount of money for clear rocks.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2544223]I think one should never call another monger a cheap charlie. Obviously one is free to pay what one likes for Asian dolls but one should never say hurtful things about other mongers.[/QUOTE]Amen. When it comes to hobbying, the cheaper the better. When we go to Asia to hobby, it's to get the best bang for our buck (pun intended).
1. Kudos to the guy that can get a great banging deal.
2. Don't be an entitled *******.
3. Don't give other mongers a hard time for what they paid, high or low.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2544243]As long as a person is honest and doesn't decieve I don't think someone is a cheap charlie in the bad sense of the word if they are cheap. I'm a bit of a cheap charlie in that I don't want to spend a lot. But I don't want a girl thinking I cheated her. Groping a girl then leaving without tipping seems wrong to me. But groping a girl after telling her you only have 100 baht left after paying for drinks seems ok if she allows it.
Let the woman know and do whatever is agreeable between the two of you. Some woman might prefer a little money over no money.
The thing I don't understand is the punters that say high spenders ruin it for them because it raises the price. Why would some high spender care about some cheap charlie' money over a girl he's having sex with? Some girl from isaan can use the money more then some guy from usa. This is not to say people should pay too much but it's to say spend whatever amount you want and the girl accepts. If you want to be cheap, be cheap. If you want to ring the bell ten times a night, have at it. It's not my money.[/QUOTE]I can see the other side of the coin. We go to Asia to have cheap fun. But if it ends up raising the average cost (which has been happening in many places in Thailand), then 1. It's not as fun since you can't get the same cheap fun anymore. 2. it puts local mongers in a pickle because they retired with a specific cost and budget in mind. It is a bit hypocritical to say you want to go to Asia for cheap fun and then pay the same / similar rates you're paying back home.
I have to agree, the last couple times I went to Thailand, the prices some of these girls were asking for was ridiculous. 10 k-12 k + bar fine for long time, mostly in the go-go bars. I ended up enjoying my time the most at Soi 6, where the costs didn't seem as inflated (as gogo bars in walking street, BR, or BKK).
I do feel a little bad about paying a lot in Vietnam when I visited for 3 days. It was a short stay and despite doing some research ahead of time, didn't have a chance / time for footwork and online searching. I did end up paying a lot more than what locals usually pay, but had a great time. And I don't think I raised the local mongering price because the markets I partook aren't really tailored to locals anyways (e. G. Queen Bee, little tokyo).
When I do have a chance to stay in VN for an extended period of time (I. E. More than a month), I'll definitely take my time to figure out the local market pricing and how to get the most beautiful lays for the cheapest prices. And I'll upload tons of field reports when I do.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2543523]You can get an education visa.
Visa runs are difficult because of quarantine requirements.[/QUOTE]I don't think they're currently issuing ED visas. I emailed these guys ([URL]http://www.tls-bangkok.com/english/[/URL]) and that's what I was told.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2544243] The thing I don't understand is the punters that say high spenders ruin it for them because it raises the price. Why would some high spender care about some cheap charlie' money over a girl he's having sex with? Some girl from isaan can use the money more then some guy from usa. This is not to say people should pay too much but it's to say spend whatever amount you want and the girl accepts. If you want to be cheap, be cheap. If you want to ring the bell ten times a night, have at it. It's not my money.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for every cheap charlie, just from what I have observed and my own opinions, but I see only a few cheap charlies who fit in the category describe, ie [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] about others spending money and causing price increases. Would I be annoyed if I had to pay more than I previously did due to weekend millionaire? Sure, but that's the nature of the game its the competitive market we fuck in. What I have a issue is, are the overpayers / weekend millionaire who due to their own inabilities and inadequacies can't pay the local price, but then come on and espouse the case anyone not paying as much as them are somehow financial eunuchs / take advantage of women are scumbags etc etc. What makes it even more annoying is that many later on come on asking for more information or if you write a post / post a pic of a new place / new girls they then contact you asking for that information.
There are places in Thai / Asia where you can still fuck MILFs in a soapy setting for 1500, where you can fuck uni student kapoo girls for 3000, where you can fuck pinoy model wannabe in manila for 2500 peso, little seaside villages in Asia where you can fuck 18 yr olds for 6 usd. But who is going to be the moron who will provide that information with so many weekend millionaire. In fact even if there wasn't such people given the competitive nature mongering, it makes no sense to share such gems.
At Sinfullykorean you posted this not much more than 1 week ago seems a bit of a turn around. The whole "I'll spend mine the way I want" that is part of the issue, after saying this last week now you are saying that weekend millionaires should be more mindful of the local economy? As it puts local mongers in a pickle as the retired with a specific budget in mind? So what is it spend as you want as its your money or not.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2540486]"Personally. ". Yes, you do you. I don't think anyone here's claiming to be altruistic. Nobody's taking a holier than thou stance here, except people calling them out.
Everyone here's here for 1 thing, and that's to get laid. So should it surprise you to hear that a guy's giving some money to a prostitute to get better service? Is it his primary motive for giving money to them? Is it his secondary? Does it matter?
How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?[/QUOTE]If someone posts after that you have overpaid, and you want to take the "its my money" line great, it is you money, but then don't be later complaining when prices have gone to 12 k baht whereas local places are still 3 k for the same slim 20 yr old. The cheap charlies not the weekend millionaires are the ones who go out do the leg work to find these "cheaper" places, then after shared online, they get given that attitude.