Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Mjen1970;1823957]
I'm interested, How did all this PSE oily thing start. I'm not interested in people's names, I'm just intrigued. I keep hearing of a place called Baron's which I think was the predecessor of Tulip. Can anyone give a brief rundown on the history of these places please?
[/QUOTE]That would be an interesting research topic.

Did this type of massage already exist prior to the Western tourists (or before that, horny GIs on R&R from the Vietnam War) coming to Thailand?

Or was it just a clever way to hide a brothel behind a more "respectable" façade and thus attract innocent farang customers? I assume access to the Thai brothel scene was (and largely, still is) next to impossible.

In the USA, "Asian Massage Parlors" are a thing of the '80's. Was this imported to the US together with the wave of refugees (meaning it already existed in SE Asia) or was it an invention of them after they came to the USA and then it was exported back to Thailand?

Any historians among us who can answer this?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1824020]He must have been English. I never "Shag". Cowboy is a bit expensive if you only want to drink. I go to Crazy House for entertainment and playing with naked girls. I don't need the drinks. Drink non alcoholic, but its just that the drinks form the payment for the entertainment. I may take a girl for fuck if one really takes my fancy. If not, I can just leave and get one of my regular girls elsewhere.

For guys that don't enjoy playing with naked girls, that much, yes Cowboy becomes pointless. Baccara, as an example is not entertaining for me. Too boring. Most bars are too boring if you don't have a specific girl of interest. Any time the CH line up is too boring, I can leave quite quickly, without spending that much.

Cowboy bars are not a place to talk to a mate (too noisy) unless its an outside bar. At Corner (Cowboy) bar is useful to get a good burger. Burger stand at Nana Plaza is lousy. Could have a drink with a buddy there. Love Scene is a useful Thai restaurant open 24 hours near by. Plenty of Sports Bars nearby. I won't name my favorite. Shakariki is a Japanese restaurant not too far away in Asoke and open extremely late till at least 4 am, or Iwane closer.[/QUOTE]Of course I was referring to Cowboy back in the Baron's days, pre-'05. Drinks were cheap then. Usually about 100 Baht no more than 120 and the exchange rate was over 40 USD to 1. We had a rather good group that would hang out in the bars. Usually out with 4 or so guys at least 4 nights a week. It was quite a bit of fun. GoGos had a completely different atmosphere then. We had no problem with the noise at that time.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1824013]Depends greatly on the girl. One western hooker did not remember fucking me previously, despite an accidental condom break incident the first time. Hard to believe.

The 2nd time I went with her several months later, her service was significantly better. The condom did not break. I had knocked her back several times in between. She had no clue that we had fucked before, where I remembered her very well.

Hookers fuck far too many customers to remember them all. The session needs to be memorable is some special way for some girls, where others may well remember nearly every customer.

I forget the bad session girls sometimes. I need to keep notes, to ensure I don't ever choose same bad girl again. Maybe 2 or 3 times in my life I repeated a previously poor session girl accidently, but realised too late after already underway. Alzheimer's is setting in. LOL.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the woman's culture has a lot to do with how much she remembers you.

Because western hookers often refuse to kiss or show any affection. They deliberately try to keep their feelings to themselves, and they try to avoid having any feelings for the guy they are with. They try to prevent the GFE (girlfriend experience), rather than give it to you. And with a lot of practice, perhaps they succeed so well in not having any feelings for you that they don't remember you.

But almost all Thai women I've been with tried to give me the GFE experience. They weren't trying to hold back their feelings as far as I could tell. And perhaps for this reason, Thai P4P women might be better at remembering their guys than western hookers.

[QUOTE=GhamiBoon;1821751]Last month, I had Bonus and Benz at SW for a threesome. Both can work very well together as a team.

Bonus put on a little weight over the last year, but is still very slim and sexy. Boobs are a bit small, but OK for me. Anyway, Benz has big (fake) ones.

But Bonus has stopped doing A+, don't know for ever or only temporary. But Benz provides everything one may desire.[/QUOTE]I had Bonus early last week and sadly, yes, she has stopped doing anal. She told me she had stopped working for a while because of a major anal tear due to some guy going crazy on her ass. I is not even entertaining the thought of getting back into it for now.

Nopo

Hi all,

Had something to do today at Silom, with a long waiting period, so I grabbed the phone and Googled some action around. Found my way into JC Massage. Went there 3 pm on a Sunday. Only 2 girls available and a somewhat pushy papasan.

Prices are 2200,2500, 3000 for the girls according to their category. 1.5 hour FS one shot. There were only 2 available: one from the 2500 level and one from the 3000 one. I actually saw no difference between the girls but can't really compare when there are only 2 girls. Papasan was a little pushy (a little like the one at Cupidy). He insisted other girls were working, but he wouldn't compromise so I took V10 for 2500 baht but I was clear that I don't have enough for the tip.

V10 is from Laos, really nice body, great tits, face OK and up, beautiful black hair if you fancy and a huge dragon tattoo on her back. Her English is alright for the job. She's a party girl, BTW.

Rooms are, to my opinion, better than average. At least the furniture wasn't peeling off or something like that. No need to tip the cleaning lady, BTW.

Service was quite good, if you don't mind me saying so with little soapy experience. V10 is quite naughty (or so she pretends), initiating touch feel play while the tub was being filled. At first she wouldn't let me touch everywhere and no kissing, but then she eased up and allowed. No DFK, tho. She stroked my cock during all the foreplay. Very cool: she looks to you in the eye all the time.

She actually got wet and wanted the sex right then and there, but since I wanted DATY and the sorts, she took me to the bath and proceeded with the usual. I don't know why they call these establishments "massage". I seldom get one, let alone one that counts as one. Today was no massage at all. Rubbing nipples is not a massage. Heavy fingering in the tub. Bed time.

Bed was quite nice since she has a nice body and it responds correctly. Sucked her toes, rubbed her clit, fingered her pussy, DATY, then her turn. Here's when it felt silly: she took it slow. She had been moaning and all wet 2 seconds ago. CBJ and inside time. She needed no lube, fantastic. It all happened kinda fast and I didn't have an episode of condom-induced limp dick or at least not one that screws the mood. I came quite fast.

She went to wash, I had a smoke. Then I washed and was out the door in 1h 15 m after I walked in. I had an appointment that I wanted to keep.

Any of you guys have any other info on this place and the girls? I think it's quite pricey compared to what you get in other places.

Nopo

WIR? Yeah, sure, if she opens up to me a little more next time. This time she didn't let me anywhere near her asshole (I'm sure she doesn't take it in the ass, but at least a wet finger, come on).

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1824119]I assume access to the Thai brothel scene was (and largely, still is) next to impossible.
[/QUOTE]What do you mean by this? Thai brothel / freelancer scene is very accessible, much more than local-oriented prostitution scenes in most other countries. Korea comes to mind, where window girls won't even look at foreigners, let alone go with them.

In Thailand, you will almost never be refused just for being a foreigner, even in out-of-the way local venues. Of course, speaking Thai helps, since Thais can be a bit apprehensive about Farang sometimes (we do occasionally have a reputation for being difficult, and language / cultural barrier does not help).

Unfortunately, the Thai scene is not too appealing for a typical foreigner. On the low end, GFE is often lacking and service is poor, and on the high end there's too much of "let's spend to gain face and pretend there's no direct sex for sale here".

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1824324]What do you mean by this? Thai brothel / freelancer scene is very accessible, much more than local-oriented prostitution scenes in most other countries. Korea comes to mind, where window girls won't even look at foreigners, let alone go with them.

In Thailand, you will almost never be refused just for being a foreigner, even in out-of-the way local venues. Of course, speaking Thai helps, since Thais can be a bit apprehensive about Farang sometimes (we do occasionally have a reputation for being difficult, and language / cultural barrier does not help).

Unfortunately, the Thai scene is not too appealing for a typical foreigner. On the low end, GFE is often lacking and service is poor, and on the high end there's too much of "let's spend to gain face and pretend there's no direct sex for sale here".[/QUOTE]Quite a few years ago I toured around Chiang Mai and somehow had a nose for where some of the Thai brothels were. We are not talking about soapies but cheaper alternatives used almost exclusively by Thais. Although I occasionally was allowed in to these, some quoted me prices that were so high it was clear they didn't want me there. The majority wouldn't let me in at all.

This included some where the person refusing me entry spoke English. On the other hand, I did get in two or there where the prices quoted were reasonable and the service good, in some instances memorable.

I don't know though how things are today as I am reporting experiences perhaps seven to ten years ago.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1824324]What do you mean by this? Thai brothel / freelancer scene is very accessible, much more than local-oriented prostitution scenes in most other countries. Korea comes to mind, where window girls won't even look at foreigners, let alone go with them.
[/QUOTE]What I mean is that for non ex-pat farang there is first the difficulty even to find the Thai brothels. They are not in the usual tourist areas and unable to speak or read Thai they may not even know they are standing next to such an establishment.

Next the tourist will be apprehensive of the proper way to behave there. And finally some places may even refuse entry to farang.

I think that is the reason why Thailand has this "designed for farang" sex industry. If access to the local market is as easy as you say, then we would all be going there, wouldn't we?

NopoProwler,

JC has declined since it closed and moved to new location. Also 3 pm is too early. Line up is not big last I visited, but should be better at 6 pm, not before 5 pm.

My ex favorite moved from Versailles to JC and then to La Belle. Her service declined and she got an ugly nose job and started to get pudgy. Her nose was originally perfect, and had a fabulous body. Her price increased dramatically also as she moved from an ordinary category up to 2 levels higher. I don't use her any more as she is too expensive and wants a quick cum these days. Originally was orgasmic but now avoids it, mostly. She was very sensitive and easy to cum.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1824336]Quite a few years ago I toured around Chiang Mai and somehow had a nose for where some of the Thai brothels were. We are not talking about soapies but cheaper alternatives used almost exclusively by Thais. Although I occasionally was allowed in to these, some quoted me prices that were so high it was clear they didn't want me there. The majority wouldn't let me in at all.

This included some where the person refusing me entry spoke English. On the other hand, I did get in two or there where the prices quoted were reasonable and the service good, in some instances memorable.

I don't know though how things are today as I am reporting experiences perhaps seven to ten years ago.[/QUOTE]My buddy started in Thai brothels 30 years ago, in various provinces, and spoke Thai reasonably and could negotiate. That was probably essential to avoid being ripped off. He told me about getting girls for very low prices like 100 to 200 Baht. He introduced me to The Thermae Soapy and Thermae late night bar underneath 24 years ago. Thermae Soapy had mostly Thai customers even though located in Sukhumvit. Farangs passing might not know what it was.

Some Thais think its great fun to rip off Farangs, when possible. National Sport. Others can be very honest. Depends.

Of course Soapies are very obvious and accessible for Farangs even if majority of customers were orginally Thai. Some had standard Farang surcharge, probably intended to help dissuade staff from trying to rip off Farangs.

Touts and Taxi drivers mostly take Farangs to rip off joints like J One (originally called CP 1) for example. Fortunately in my early days, its sister Chao Praya 2 with no extra charges for Farang was a short walk away and had a huge line up 20 to 15 years ago.

I never used the really low class Thai brothels. Much preferred a large Soapy line up to choose from in those days. Hard to find really good looking girls in low class places.

Wish I could wind the click back to 20 years of age, and repeat it all again, but better. I would have learned to speak Thai much earlier if I had holidayed in Thailand at that age. Instead I started learning Thai at age maybe 33 or 34. Fortunately before my brain got too stubborn.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1824391]NopoProwler,

JC has declined since it closed and moved to new location. Also 3 pm is too early. Line up is not big last I visited, but should be better at 6 pm, not before 5 pm.

My ex favorite moved from Versailles to JC and then to La Belle. Her service declined and she got an ugly nose job and started to get pudgy. Her nose was originally perfect, and had a fabulous body. Her price increased dramatically also as she moved from an ordinary category up to 2 levels higher. I don't use her any more as she is too expensive and wants a quick cum these days. Originally was orgasmic but now avoids it, mostly. She was very sensitive and easy to cum.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,

Agree, 3 pm is too early for any soapy or oily. Judging by the number of chairs, I reckon there's room for up to 20 of the 2200 baht level, 6 rotating chairs for the 2500 level and maybe 10 of the 3 K level. Of course, I went to the new location after finding the old location which is now JC Medicine.

My experience in soapies is quite limited. I prefer the gonzo style of oilies. My experience at JC yesterday afternoon I consider good, more because of the girl than because of the joint.

As per your story, I've been there, I feel ya. I always keep in mind what these girls do for a living. It cannot not get to them (excuse the double negative). Back home I had a thing with 2 girls who worked massage / BJ and massage / FS and tho there were sparks, they eventually became what you describe in your lines.

Nopo

[QUOTE=NopoProwler;1824222]I had Bonus early last week and sadly, yes, she has stopped doing anal. She told me she had stopped working for a while because of a major anal tear due to some guy going crazy on her ass. I is not even entertaining the thought of getting back into it for now.

Nopo[/QUOTE]It is really infuriating that there are guys who will abuse gals like that. Not only is it awful, but it sours the gals on men. Whenever a gal is uncomfortable with A+, I immediately stop. The fact that a dude would not just does not compute with me.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1824391]NopoProwler,

JC has declined since it closed and moved to new location. Also 3 pm is too early. Line up is not big last I visited, but should be better at 6 pm, not before 5 pm. Snip.[/QUOTE]Sorry, does JC have a full name and where is it? Thanks.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1824578]Sorry, does JC have a full name and where is it? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Infinity JC and its located in a small Soi off Surawong road north west of Pat Phong but close and right opposite the Post Office I believe.

Nopo,

Unfortunately I don't know what gonzo means. Its a porn movie term right?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1824592]Infinity JC and its located in a small Soi off Surawong road north west of Pat Phong but close and right opposite the Post Office I believe.

Nopo,

Unfortunately I don't know what gonzo means. Its a porn movie term right?[/QUOTE]Thanks. I think I passed by it some time ago when I was in Pat Phong.

Regarding gonzo, it can refer to a style of porn as well as a style of journalism. For porn, the Urban Dictionary defines gonzo as:

Gonzo.

When it comes to pornography the term 'Gonzo' refers to a style of film making pioneered in the 1990's by directors such as Seymore Butts and Ben Dover.

Gonzo porn took the storyline out of adult movies and headed straight for the sex. No longer would the pornoholic have to fast forward through 10 minutes of inept dialog to get 5 minutes of sex. They got sex throughout the whole video.

Gonzo porn was not always shot in the first person or in point-of-view fashion as some have suggested here and the quality of the movie depended largely on who was producing it.

Half the adult videos you can rent fall into the Gonzo genre.