You need to do what you feel
[QUOTE=JimmyBowl;2776557]Nowhere in latam is safe, and Bogota is less safe than most of the continent. Check violent crime statistics and ignore men's restroom wall advice.
Iv'e been here for a week now (and 2+ years in latam) and established what seems to be a safe operation:
1. Take an uber straight to the club's front door, have sex inside the club, and then wait for your uber inside the club.
This way you spend the evening past club security and not on the streets.
2. For day game, get girls' phone numbers in advance and invite them to a safe motel, one that has security, checks IDs and is in a good area (not Santa Fe), this should cost 50 k instead of the 8 k you pay for knock-on-the-door places. It's also a good idea to have another person verify the girl's age.
This is the advice I wish I was given a week ago.[/QUOTE]I Know every nook and cranny of the Parque 93 area and I still elect to call an Uber to take us 3 or 4 blocks to our hotel from the restaurants in Parque 93 after 10 or so. Taxi's are usually safe but you run the risk just that one time. If you do taxi, take a photo of the numbers on the taxi and the license plate and make sure he sees you doing this, then text it to yourself if need be and speak a message into your phone I'm in bla bla taxi, look at the card in the back seat pocket and say his first name so he hears you. He is required to have that card available for all to see, if not ask for it. You'll be just fine. It may seem like overkill but nothing ruins a trip like being mugged hurt or worse.
Stats anecdotal experience
(possible double-post, I was logged out when I tried to post and after logging in faced a blank screen).
Thanks everyone for your comments, they are well intended, but many are not based on fact.
It's time to pull some stats:
[URL]https://colombiareports.com/bogota-crime-security-statistics/[/URL]
I couldn't find exact stats for the RLD area, so we'll use city and barrio stats.
Barrio Santa Fe has a victimization rate of 40% (out of 1000), meaning 4% of the population in the tested time period have been victimized by crime.
Of those victimized, 40% were victimised by armed robbery, by far the most rampant crime in Bogota.
Source: Bogota Chamber of Commerce.
As for security perception, locals have it very differently to ISG members, with 4% feeling secure, 10% feeling neutral, and 86% feeling insecure (2021).
If you feel safe in Bogota, you are a minority.
Source: Bogota Como Vamos.
Homicide rate is lower than other large Colombian cities and of course lower than major US cities, if the US is your benchmark then you are battle hardened.
Barrio Santa Fe has the 2nd highest homicide rate in Bogota.
Back to armed robbery, Santa Fe scores #2 again. #1 is La Candelaria, which confirms that armed robbery is targeted at tourists.
On a more personal note, my several armed robberies by gangs that seem to do it for a living had not felt that dangerous, mostly thanks to my calmness and compliance.
The gangs that robbed me were very professional, they did the job in under 10 seconds and used the minimal amount of force and intimidation required.
They never hit me and never yelled at me, it was always one guy with a gun or knife holding me in place, and the others cleaning my pockets.
I'd rather be robbed by a gang than arrested by LAPD any day of the week.
It's also worthy to mention that the gangsters were far better dressed than I was. I wear hiking pants full of mud stains and a cheap plain hoodie. Some of the gangsters were dressed like rapper want to-be rappers with branded NBA clothing, $200 sneakers, bright red hats, they looked more like a music video than a gang.
Every time I was robbed was the same: I walked towards a group of "guys just hanging there", whether in slow and quiet streets or in the city center next to several police officers and in the midst of several hundred people, visibility does not seem to matter. I.
With that said I'm going to Santa Fe now to get laid, or robbed, or laid and then robbed. I don't like my current phone anyway.
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Been Living in Santa Fe area for 10 yrs
[QUOTE=JimmyBowl;2776900]Victimization and perception rate are the same across Santa Fe, Los Martires, Puente Aranda and La Candelaria.
You can see the maps here: [URL]https://colombiareports.com/bogota-crime-security-statistics/[/URL].
As for robberies specifically:
La Candelaria.
2020 robbery rate: 4,628.
Los Martires.[/QUOTE]I am always vigilent and have had very minor crime problems living 2 blocks away from the redlight area-.
But I know some would have different experiences as they are more prone to being robbed. Frisky Frank probably has a 00000001% chance because he is literally a giant man.
Me I am actually an average guy but have lived in areas that are not so nice and am able to blend better? I guess or I am lucky-- knocking on wood.
I think places like Tijuana and South Central Los Angeles and many major US cities are way more dangerous. It is just so much less predatory here IMO.
On another note-- If any of the members are into silver coins or vintage comics, magazines, movie posters and other cool collectible stuff I know all the hot spots here in Bogota and have a nice inventory of things available -- I am attaching some photos-- I deal from here and have a lot of items in the California too-- I am a 20 yr on line seller.
