East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=DoItUnderwater;2257191]Stopped in there yesterday and it was open. Didn't know what to expect since the crackdown so thought I might be TOFT. Walked in and the 2 guys at the counter looked familiar. Neither spoke English and with my limited Chinese, it was a challenge. First he showed me a pic on his phone of a muscled up guy. No thanks. Then showed a series of pics of girls and wanted me to call them. I didn't think I could communicate with them either so didn't try.

Finally he took me to one of the rooms I had been in before. Same shower, same furniture. After a few minutes a very cute, and sexy dressed girl came it. I showered then laid on the bed. Same routine as before with brief, back massage, rimming with the fake tongue, short BJ then hand finish.

Damage 288 at the desk and 100 tip that she seemed very happy about. Didn't get her name or number.

Have fun. Stay safe.

DoIt.[/QUOTE]First, thanks for TOFT. Sincerely appreciated. But hmmm, the routine that you just described is very different from what it used to be. They never showed pics, you simply got whoever was next in the queue, unless you booked someone ahead of time or requested someone. They never offered men before. They never asked you to call the girl. Finally, it was always invariably a KB routine, with BBBJ and CIM finish. That said, the price is the same, but not sure why you tipped when she didn't ask for it. Perhaps they are running a make-shift operation for now. But again, thanks for TOFT. Great intel.

Way to go team member! That place was always a reliable BBBJ once you got past the front desk. Can we start sharing worker numbers and their cell or Wechat accounts? They had QQ site complete with photos, specs on service, age and even who was "Hong pai" most popular. Many happy campers will visit now.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2257267]First, thanks for TOFT. Sincerely appreciated. But hmmm, the routine that you just described is very different from what it used to be. They never showed pics, you simply got whoever was next in the queue, unless you booked someone ahead of time or requested someone. They never offered men before. They never asked you to call the girl. Finally, it was always invariably a KB routine, with BBBJ and CIM finish. That said, the price is the same, but not sure why you tipped when she didn't ask for it. Perhaps they are running a make-shift operation for now. But again, thanks for TOFT. Great intel.[/QUOTE]I think they may be running a makeshift set-up now. Maybe safer to have you call and bring someone in rather than have a line-up? No CIM this time. Not sure if it will be on the menu in future. I tipped because she was such a friendly and cute girl. And 100 is not a big deal for me, but may be for her.

Have fun. Be safe.

DoIt.

Thanks for the intel !

But what is the benefit for them to have punters calling the girls, I mean the girls are just sitting in the shop, unless they wait somewhere outside (new procedure?). They never offered a lineup when I was there, always waited in the room till a girl appeared. Also, like Midwestern said it was always BBBJCIM and the girls used to be naked (which did not need tipping).

[QUOTE=Changlelu;2257411]Thanks for the intel !

But what is the benefit for them to have punters calling the girls, I mean the girls are just sitting in the shop, unless they wait somewhere outside (new procedure?). They never offered a lineup when I was there, always waited in the room till a girl appeared. Also, like Midwestern said it was always BBBJCIM and the girls used to be naked (which did not need tipping).[/QUOTE]Yeah, there was never a lineup. A girl would show up at the door and you either said keyi or buyao buhaoyisi. And yeah, the girls were naked during the event. I guess we have to wait and see when this place has its grand reopening. Right now, it looks like a make-shift soft reopening.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2257438]Yeah, there was never a lineup. A girl would show up at the door and you either said keyi or buyao buhaoyisi. And yeah, the girls were naked during the event. I guess we have to wait and see when this place has its grand reopening. Right now, it looks like a make-shift soft reopening.[/QUOTE]Hey guys, I have no idea why they are doing what they are doing. I only reported my experience. Don't shoot the messenger if you want guys to share their intel.

DoIt.

[QUOTE=DoItUnderwater;2257453]Hey guys, I have no idea why they are doing what they are doing. I only reported my experience. Don't shoot the messenger if you want guys to share their intel.

DoIt.[/QUOTE]No one is questioning you, or your report. We are simply comparing your experience with what the experience used to be. We are doing this to exchange and share information. We are also doing this to return the favor to you, by giving you info, so that you know what to hope for and maybe expect from this MP in the future. Every one one of us who responded to you intel has been very appreciateive, including me. And every one of us assume that your intel is correct. None of us are questioning it, or asking you to defend it. None of us have shot the messenger. Maybe you took something the wrong way, a way that was unintended. As you probably know, even emails get misunderstood, as this form of communication is one-dimensional. We are all friends here.

Greetings Bros, popping my post cherry here. I lived in Shanghai a decade ago and this forum was a great resource for finding gems back then like G18, Bodi, Sarcosa etc. Never got into posting though or sharing intel I came across my own. I travel infrequently to Shanghai now and since the crackdown last year had pulled back on looking for saunas and the sort. Lucky for me on this trip you guys came clutch with hard intel on 76 Changshou Road, passing by the Holiday Inn brought back many fond memories.

I am double confirming on DoitUnderwaters report about Changshou Road being open. Before I reached the front desk I was immediately whisked away to a room where 315 or 815 was called to my room. She was a pleasant young girl. Easy on the eyes but neither attractive or ugly. She spoke in a fake Japanese like accent and said she was Vietnamese. When she called the phone operator immediately started speaking perfect Chinese and said someone else picked her and had to go to another room. Within a minute a different older gal #20 walked in. Probably a bait and switch but whatever. Showered, quick massage, tongue bath, rim, flip, BJ followed by leg massage, shower, dropped 288 to and counter and gone. #20 is a skinny fat body type and probably mid 30's. Enthusiastic and good service provider, into having conversation if you are.

**Side note. Caught word of a Hui Suo a little ways out in Pudong. Will provide a report if I get a trip in before leaving this trip.

Sorry guys, I came on a little strong. I meant no offense and took no offense. I can only chalk it up to fatigue and too much baijo!

I do recall the old BJ routine at 76 and hope it will return.

We are indeed friends here. Thanks to everyone who provided intel that has helped me tremendously in the past.

Additional intel. I went by the MP that I reported in the past as the "Hidden MP in Putuo District" and it is still open. Near Jinshiajang Lu and Daduhe Lu. I did not go in.

Have fun. Be safe.

DoIt.

Hi everyone,

Hoping you guys can help me. I am in Shanghai for a few days and it looks like a lot of the info I found on saunas / soapy / massage are already outdated. Can someone reply with current brothel names & addresses that are open today? Telephone numbers would be much appreciated as well. Much appreciated & good vibes.

Hi,

What is the name of the hidden MP?

[QUOTE=DoItUnderwater;2257801]Sorry guys, I came on a little strong. I meant no offense and took no offense. I can only chalk it up to fatigue and too much baijo!

I do recall the old BJ routine at 76 and hope it will return.

We are indeed friends here. Thanks to everyone who provided intel that has helped me tremendously in the past.

Additional intel. I went by the MP that I reported in the past as the "Hidden MP in Putuo District" and it is still open. Near Jinshiajang Lu and Daduhe Lu. I did not go in.

Have fun. Be safe.

DoIt.[/QUOTE]

I visited a supposed Sauna which ended up being a scam setup. (99% certainty). Through a wechat account I was told of a Hui Suo facility in Pudong and passed on visiting initially. I was given pricing for time / full service but my gut felt off and something didn't feel right. After a few days I said changed my tune and decided to give it a try. I still had a cautious attitude only bringing cash with me and deleting my bank apps from my phone.

Anyways upon arriving a doorman open the door before I could reach it and was seated in a waiting room where the manager came by to ask if I had an appt, with whom, and if I knew the pricing. I wanted the bottom tier pricing of 1688 and was escorted to a room where they gave me a bathroom and tiny underwear to change into. The room was high quality and had its own bathroom / shower but I immediately thought it was weird there wasn't a central locker and showering area. And I hadn't seen another customer in the lobby or hallways. After changing a girl came to the room, said her name and asked if she was OK. She was attractive but I said no out of habit to see the next one. This is when my alarm bells started to go off more, the wechat account said they had at least 20 girls on a given night so I was wondering why there wasn't a manager showing a lineup or fishbowl. I accepted the second girl and she escorted me to another room down the hallway to shower and she said she'the wait outside the door in the hallway. During the shower I told myself just run with it and see what happens. After the shower we went back to the first room where she started giving me a massage.

I started asking her questions about the business, how long they've been open etc and how many girls they had working. She said tonight there was 50-60 and the alarms started going off harder. Her answer was different from the wechat account and why would there be so many girls but not any other customers? Soon after she starts talking about how this is a chain from Beijing and asking me questions about what I did, where I'm from, how much money I spend per day when traveling. Wtf?

Then it got juicy.

The massage started getting sensual with light tickling around my thighs and groin area. Soon she said there were different customer tiers and to get different higher class services I had to buy a membership that started at 60000,60 K rmb. Services for members were different style themed rooms, prettier girls, international girls, cosplay options etc. And that this was going to only be a veggie massage and only members get sex. I immediately asked to speak with the manager. The manager started explaining their process which I really wasn't paying attention to and when I rejected buying a membership she began to offer cheaper ones, 13 K and 17 K options. When I told her I don't want it and didn't have the money she asked how much I had. At this point she said I could pay what I had first as a deposit and even suggested I could go back to Puxi to get the money / bank cards and come back. (1 hour round trip). I started getting really irritated and knew arguing further wasn't going anywhere. I said just finish up this session first and I'll be back in a few days for the membership. Felt slightly ashamed afterwards but mostly annoyed I didn't trust my instincts and left it alone to begin with.

After getting back I went into the Beijing forum and Lo and behold saw a recent post detailing the same scam. The bros experience was basically identical to mine.

This facility was out near Yangpu bridge in Pudong. So stay away guys!

[QUOTE=CrazyOne100;2257234]I read the forum quite often, have never posted, but have had many adventures in China over the years. Last week I found myself in a situation that I need to share with you. Perhaps maybe you have had it occur to you but it was a scary situation for me.

In June, I met this girl on TanTan and we met and got together. We had oral sex and that was it. She claims she is a student and she needed some money to help her out. So I gave her some and all was good. I added her on WeChat and talked to her off and on for the next few months (maybe a few messages a month). Lot of "I am waiting for you", "I am your girlfriend", etc. Since I travel to China quite often we met again at the beginning of November and finally did the deed. She tried to ask me for taxi money before she came and saw me, but I refused. She asked for money "to help her out" which I took as "I need money to have sex with you".

Fast forward three and a half weeks later, I get a WeChat message, that says she missed her period and we need to talk. I used a condom when I had sex with her and it did not break and looked completely normal when we finished. I deleted her but forgot to block her. Anyway, the next morning, I get a friend request "I am pregnant, I will call the police". So I accept her and talk with her for a while, making it clear it was not mine. She said it is yours, lets do DNA, I will get a lawyer, etc. I said then get an abortion, and she told me that she needs 12,0000 rmb for the abortion. I said no, only 5,000 rmb. (Always have that little doubt in the mind that the condom worked it has like a 2% failure rate). She said OK, and that she would got to the hospital right now. "I am on my way", "meeting with Doctor now", etc. Were the messages for the next 20 minutes. She said that the Doctor said it would cost 12,000. I said send me a picture of you at the hospital. Ten minutes later she said that she couldn't and she was back already. She kept up with "you are shirking your duty", "don't you want me to have a good hospital for the service", "you should come here and we go together", "get one of your Chinese friends to help you", "do you want me to be born", and "lets get married". All this for the next 20 minutes. Eventually, I said that 5000 was sufficient, and she kept saying "insufficient". I finally, blocked then deleted her.

I have done some research online after this and it seems that this not an uncommon scam especially in Thailand. Fortunately I used my secondary WeChat account so I can block, delete and the delete the WeChat account. Have any of you long time mongers seen this particular scam.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It looks like you are hoping for assurances from us, to ease your mind. Well, on the one hand, if she is scamming you, then why she did not settle for the 5 k? Perhaps she sensed your near-willingness to part with 12 k. Anyway, here is the answer to your last question: yes. When I first moved to China, I was warned about this scam from several guy friends. One guy told me that he even dated a girl a few times, and then stopped calling her, and a month later she texted him and said that she was preggers, when they never even had sex. Another guy said that the girl said she was preggers the DAY AFTER they had sex for the first time, LOL. I am not making this up. This is what they told me. Maybe they are lying or exaggerating, but their intentions were sincere in trying to warn me to be careful when chasing tail. (They were not mongers, but just guys that were active womanizers, and always hooking up at bars where expats congregate.) Anyway, perhaps this scam is still alive and active. But while I cannot give your 100% reassurance, I can tell you one thing for sure. There is no way she could have gone to the hospital, got seen by nurse or doctor, receive a 12 k bill for what she wanted done, all within a span of 20 minutes, and then 10 minutes later she is already home. All of this would have taken at least a couple of hours. Have you ever been to a Chinese hospital? Seeing a doctor and getting treated, or whatever, takes forever. Unless you go to an international hospital, but I doubt she went to an international hospital.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2258136]It looks like you are hoping for assurances from us, to ease your mind. Well, on the one hand, if she is scamming you, then why she did not settle for the 5 k? Perhaps she sensed your near-willingness to part with 12 k. Anyway, here is the answer to your last question: yes. When I first moved to China, I was warned about this scam from several guy friends. One guy told me that he even dated a girl a few times, and then stopped calling her, and a month later she texted him and said that she was preggers, when they never even had sex. Another guy said that the girl said she was preggers the DAY AFTER they had sex for the first time, LOL. I am not making this up. This is what they told me. Maybe they are lying or exaggerating, but their intentions were sincere in trying to warn me to be careful when chasing tail. (They were not mongers, but just guys that were active womanizers, and always hooking up at bars where expats congregate.) Anyway, perhaps this scam is still alive and active. But while I cannot give your 100% reassurance, I can tell you one thing for sure. There is no way she could have gone to the hospital, got seen by nurse or doctor, receive a 12 k bill for what she wanted done, all within a span of 20 minutes, and then 10 minutes later she is already home. All of this would have taken at least a couple of hours. Have you ever been to a Chinese hospital? Seeing a doctor and getting treated, or whatever, takes forever. Unless you go to an international hospital, but I doubt she went to an international hospital.[/QUOTE]And she can't produce her photo at the hospital in a country of endless selfies?

[QUOTE=TheGuy;2258156]And she can't produce her photo at the hospital in a country of endless selfies?[/QUOTE]I agree. I have also talked to two friends in SH that have clearly told me this is a scam. Just block her, delete her and move on. Finding a taxi or didi in SH takes longer than 20 minutes. One friend told me that they helped another guy, who paid 5,000 (she wanted 50,000), but he had sex with her without a condom.

I just wanted to make everyone aware that this scam exists. Even if I had paid, I am sure there would be another message of "the procedure did not work, I need another 12,000" or something like that. It seems that this scam is very common in Thailand from what I have seen.

Regards,

CrazyOne.

BTW, I also saw Angeline (the blond Vietnamese woman) when I was there. She is pierced everywhere. Seriously. Very hot and fantastic woman.