Monterrey

[QUOTE=Amigomio]A girl... how old is she?

Is she still a Mexican resident? She could be a citizen of the world and that changes everything, Mexican girls, civilian non working girls, per se are closed.

They will open up if a frienship starts, but you can be sure to get boring sex from them.[/QUOTE]She's 23, no she lives in Ghana know for work and only goes back to Mexico at Christmas.

In comparing girls across the globe, IMHO, Mexican Girls, and Latin girls in general, have the capacity to be more loving and passionate than any other culture I've come across.

If you can cut through the larceny and manipulation that is sometimes so much an integral part of their socialization, and establish a solid friendship with them, something that takes a little effort, they will not disappoint you.


[QUOTE=Cpalace82]She's 23, no she lives in Ghana know for work and only goes back to Mexico at Christmas.[/QUOTE]

USB says: "more loving and passionate than any other culture I've come across."

Yes, and that is the undoing of the Mexican woman.
There comes a point that if the girl is open, socially and sexualy, she becomes a trophy for men to hunt.
Men will rate her as a girl that "likes it" and will only look for her for sex.

Slowly but surely she is pushed back by our macho dominated society into seclusion just because she wanted to be liberal.



[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]In comparing girls across the globe, IMHO, Mexican Girls, and Latin girls in general, have the capacity to be more loving and passionate than any other culture I've come across.

If you can cut through the larceny and manipulation that is sometimes so much an integral part of their socialization, and establish a solid friendship with them, something that takes a little effort, they will not disappoint you.[/QUOTE]

very wisely put...that certainly is the basis for their undoing, and it is from that knowledge that i so often lament for the poor, misguided nicer girls we know in the clubs, realizing their true natures. but also realizing that their decision to do what they do in the bars is sometimes also made to better the lives of others, financially, and with respect to their futures.

some are depraved, some do it out of sacrifice, some out of laziness, some out of taking the path of least resistance, some out of greed, etc...i know a girl that recently, about a month ago, took a second job in a factory, working two jobs to pay the bills. she told me that it was literally killing her. she was quickly deciding that her job in the bar was not so bad. so, when you do the math, compared to the amount of work done in exchange for effort made in the jobs of the virtuous, according to her, a bar girl's job is comparatively very, very easy. if you aren't born into money, t's really a no-brainer if you have the looks, and the emotional and psychological fortitude to pull it off.

this is not something she was thinking prior to taking the factory job, which she said was far and away ten times the amount of work in retrospect. living a "chaste" girl's existence means working very, very hard to exist in a latin culture. the decision to demean one's self as a bar girl is not so hard to understand when you consider the alternatives, and when you also consider the consequences to the living standard that results from maintaining one's virtuosity.

but, apparently, many girls that literally could assume the job of a bar girl, having the looks and personality necessary to do so, choose an alternate path. as you and porker have told me, the overwhelming majority of girls in mexico, at least with respect to their virtuosity, are not in the category of the girls that we patronize, who are all ultimately labeled as spoiled goods.

optimistically speaking, for a guy like cpalace, who may have found the exception to what we routinely see in the bars, there may be hope for things progressing nicely with his amiga, who may just be one of the many apparently virtuous ones. however, ymmv, and the proof is still always in the pudding.

hopefully, among the more virtuous girls of mexico, there must be some pearls among the swine, girls that are more discerning than to give of themselves to all who seek only sexual favors from them, even if the result enriches them beyond their wildest dreams in comparison to their otherwise virtuous peers. those are the ones, the apparent vast majority of eligible girls in mexico, that could make a man's life paradise on earth.

i realize my sampling of mexican girls is skewed because of the category of girls i've sampled. but, based on the numbers, it seems to me i've sampled enough to sense a generalization about the overall sexuality of latin girls. literally, i believe almost all latin girls run about 30-40 degrees hotter than any other culture i've encountered.

were i a younger man, unattached, knowing what i know now about the nature of latin women, i would definitely seek a mate, girlfriend, wife, companion, etc..., one of latin origins, versus what is available in the us. i believe cpalace said he was in the uk i believe, and i really can't speak to the nature of women in that part of the world, only in comparison primarily to us, latin, and asian girls, ie:thailand, the pi, indonesia, china, cambodia, singapore, etc...but, i feel that i've sampled large enough number from each respective category to form some relatively accurate representative conclusions about their overall appeal.

i believe that based on experience in the three generalized cultures, asian, latin, and american, it boils down to cultural influences as having the primary influence that distinguishes them from one another. even if a potential latin candidate were available in the us, originally from latin cultural origins, but living in the us for anytime more than about two years, i would not want to choose from anyone that may have been tainted by our cultural influences here in the us. and, imho, asian girls are much more frigid than latin girls. so, the choice is clear for me.

there is something about their authentic latin origins that makes them profoundly attractive to me. as i have always said, attitude is everything, and the latin culture, even with it's inherent machoistic flaws, produces some of the most alluring women in existence worldwide, imho.

[quote=amigomio]usb says: "more loving and passionate than any other culture i've come across."

yes, and that is the undoing of the mexican woman.
there comes a point that if the girl is open, socially and sexualy, she becomes a trophy for men to hunt.
men will rate her as a girl that "likes it" and will only look for her for sex.

slowly but surely she is pushed back by our macho dominated society into seclusion just because she wanted to be liberal.[/quote]

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]In comparing girls across the globe, IMHO, Mexican Girls, and Latin girls in general, have the capacity to be more loving and passionate than any other culture I've come across.

If you can cut through the larceny and manipulation that is sometimes so much an integral part of their socialization, and establish a solid friendship with them, something that takes a little effort, they will not disappoint you.[/QUOTE]Interesting little article I found a while ago,the way they describe Mexican women their pretty spot on regarding the sentimentality she acts just the same way, whoever wrote did his homework.

[url]http://www.escapeartist.com/Travel_Mag/Issues/02/Dating_and_Sex_Around_the_World.html[/url]

[quote=unospongebob]optimistically speaking, for a guy like cpalace, who may have found the exception to what we routinely see in the bars, there may be hope for things progressing nicely with his amiga, who may just be one of the many apparently virtuous ones. however, ymmv, and the proof is still always in the pudding.

hopefully, among the more virtuous girls of mexico, there must be some pearls among the swine, girls that are more discerning than to give of themselves to all who seek only sexual favors from them, even if the result enriches them beyond their wildest dreams in comparison to their otherwise virtuous peers. those are the ones, the apparent vast majority of eligible girls in mexico, that could make a man's life paradise on earth.

i realize my sampling of mexican girls is skewed because of the category of girls i've sampled. but, based on the numbers, it seems to me i've sampled enough to sense a generalization about the overall sexuality of latin girls. literally, i believe almost all latin girls run about 30-40 degrees hotter than any other culture i've encountered.

were i a younger man, unattached, knowing what i know now about the nature of latin women, i would definitely seek a mate, girlfriend, wife, companion, etc..., one of latin origins, versus what is available in the us. i believe cpalace said he was in the uk i believe, and i really can't speak to the nature of women in that part of the world, only in comparison primarily to us, latin, and asian girls, ie:thailand, the pi, indonesia, china, cambodia, singapore, etc...but, i feel that i've sampled large enough number from each respective category to form some relatively accurate representative conclusions about their overall appeal.

i believe that based on experience in the three generalized cultures, asian, latin, and american, it boils down to cultural influences as having the primary influence that distinguishes them from one another. even if a potential latin candidate were available in the us, originally from latin cultural origins, but living in the us for anytime more than about two years, i would not want to choose from anyone that may have been tainted by our cultural influences here in the us. and, imho, asian girls are much more frigid than latin girls. so, the choice is clear for me.

there is something about their authentic latin origins that makes them profoundly attractive to me. as i have always said, attitude is everything, and the latin culture, even with it's inherent machoistic flaws, produces some of the most alluring women in existence worldwide, imho.[/quote]she does seem to have a good head on her shoulders from what ive learnt of her, i do think spending a year just chatting and getting to really know what shes about and what we have in common is what i needed if i was to consider inviting her to come visit me, otherwise i wouldnt have had a clue what to talk to her about when she was staying with me and that would have been a real drag. english women are okay but im after something diffrent ive had my fill of fake blondes englands overrun by them. i dont know what living in ghana has done for her but im curious to see. i dont know if you guys have noticed if mexican girls are clingy to their boyfriends, im not a guy that has to be with my chick all the time i do need my space.

my trip started out as bad as it can get. needless to say, i was in a bad mood. so when i arrived late at infinito and none of my regulars were available, let's just say i was not in a forgiving mood.

sweet p comes to me at closing time. sweet as ever with a bright smile. "will you wait for me to get dressed?" she asks. "where are we going?" i played the ignorant customer until she spelled it out ... let's go to your place. all three of us. this including her girlfriend who is a sweet 18 y/o knockout fake blond.

i did not touch her girlfriend. i was not in the mood so she eventually made her graceful exit after a little over an hour. sweet p gave all she could give and i let myself go on her. after 3 hours, she pegged to stop.

the next morning, i was still in a bad mood so i called lady j and asked her to come over. lady j is no longer working the business and had actually sold all her dancing outfits. she has a regular job and is very content. lady j is a true brazilian and does she fight for her man? she was sending the girls running for their lives when i was seeing her at the club. later when i take her with me for lunch at prestige, she made sure none of the girls that came to say hello to me stay over a minute. she gave them a clear message and they got it.

so .. here comes the fun part. carlos comes over around 1 pm and we're setting talking with the room door open. and that's when the brownies hit the fan. lady j walks in looking so pretty. i pull my hand... and feet .. away from sweet p as if i don't want lady j to see us together. they both instantly give me the look .. that look that says 'what the hell are you doing?" even carlos sat back to enjoy the show. i got pinched .. a lot .. by both as i was trying to maintain a loving balance between the both girls. i did not make either one feel she was second. i showed respect to both and sat next to each one for a little to show my affection. i knew deep inside they were both boiling with anger.

sweet p finally left and then sends carlos a txt msg telling him the following:

"please tell wasted not to talk to me anymore. if he sees me at the club, tell him not to try to talk to me as if he never knew me." i thought that was so sweet. just like a little girl breaking up.

i spent my time with lady j. had my fun and sent her on her way after about 5 hours. the i head out to infinito to face my destiny.

the entire club is now aware of the break up. all the girls come by and either tell me that i need punishment or asking why i made sweet p angry. sweet p did not look at me and kept avoiding me. but when i told the manager to grab sweet p by the ear and force her to set with me, she came .. unwillingly .. and sat next to me not saying a word.

i usually let the girls buy candy and nuts from the candy tray dude. each girl usually picks up a candy bar or some gum. this time, sweet p reaches for the biggest box on the tray. i asked her if she has money to pay for it. she got mad and returned it. but i was just teasing and bought it for her.

when i asked her if she does not want me any more, if she does not love me anymore, she said she does love but she is angry with me. ok. so i ask "how long will you be angry for so i would come back then." .... she got so mad and left.

when i talk to the other girls, i tell them that the one i lost the most is angry with me. when i tell them why, they all were shocked and told me i have been a bad boy.

i left to get some cash and on the way back, i stopped by a club i never entered before and i did not have any intentions of ever looking inside. but i thought a time away from the action would do me some good. turns out i was the only customer besides another table and i was buried with girls. one was hot so i took her for a ride after i had one other girl help me get her wet. she was squirming and just about ready to explode.

i head back to infinito 15 minutes before the end of the evening shift. sweet p and her girlfriend were in the line up when i pointed to her girlfriend to come down. she drags sweet p with her and says she is no longer angry with me. sweet p had this shy bride look blushing as she looks at me. she gives me a shy hug accompanied with a shy kiss. "i am not angry with you that much any more."

cool. let's go upstairs. we had some fun and they asked me if we were going out to the clubs tonight. sure ... but my friend lady j is coming too.

man, i can not even begin to describe the looks on their faces. it was like they were frozen in time. speechless. emotionless. just about ready to deliver a killer blow. but i did not care. if she does not like it, she can walk.

now, when she got dressed, she rushes out of the club with a quick look behind her as she leaves. i took it as if she was trying to sneak out on me. i got up walked out behind her and her other girlfriend. i pass by them without saying a word. sweet p and her girlfriend start calling out my name to come back. i return but with a disappointed look. "what's wrong?" nothing ... you want to leave go ahead. they both instantly started to explain to me when i asked why they sneaked out, both instantly start to explain that they were hiding from another girl who wanted to go out.. and she usually does, who wanted to go out with us. sure i said. i did not believe them until the third girlfriend comes out say that she managed to also sneak out without that girl seeing her. ok.. so they might be telling the truth.

i told them to go ahead and i will catch up with them after lady j comes. lady j was no show so i left. but i could not find them in the club so i left and headed to pasarellas to look for one my hot teen girls. no luck. i left to infinito's for a late shift sampling. got me one of those girls that i usually shy away from talking to. she was a professional dancer. very hot that i thought i could not handle her. she turned out to be a real sweetheart. a 21 y/o tiny little thing. she danced on me while i was deep inside her. she was fire.

a finally get to sleep at 6 am. got up at 4 pm and then was pleasantly surprised when i heard a door knock. i thought it was the house keeping lady so i open up and loved the sight of sweet p at the door. she does not work on sundays and usually spend the day with her family. yet, she took time off and came to see me.

i had previously agreed to pay for her hair extensions as a birthday gift. but when i found out how much it costs, i refused. she asked carlos to talk to me about it but i still insisted it was way too much and a waste of money. but now she wants me to split the cost with her. half and half. ok. so when we went out for dinner, i took out some cash and gave it to her.

sweet p is so so so loving when she wants something from me. she can have whatever she wants if she approaches me with that child-like 'please' attitude. she can charm me out of anything if she knew how powerful she can be. but she does not know that. she better not know that.

so there, if you love someone, set them free... i set her free. if she wants to leave, leave.

now i'm trying to figure out what to do with sweet p and lady j. they both want to have lunch with me. one is coming at 1 pm and the other at 2.

i'm waiting....

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]My trip started out as bad as it can get.[/QUOTE]



I enjoyed reading your escapades WastedG. It occurs to me that your escapades with your two girls is the basis for further discussion about our varied choices of methodology.

While your circumstances and the application of Cabronish methodology seemingly works well for you, within the context of apparently getting you what you want in Monterrey, it does not prove that your "P" girl doesn't have legitimate feelings for you, nor does it mean that she was not jealous in the emotional sense, behind the professional jealously that's part of their regular "routine."

When I assess the sincerity of your P girl versus Lady J, just in their respective demeanors, I sense that Lady J lacks the depth of sincerity that I sense in your P girl. Nobody can really know for sure with these girls. But, just my sixth sense, and witnessing her behavior first hand in the past, over a number of years now, tells me that your P girl was legitimately jealous and angry.

Now, with respect to the Cabronish methods, I agree with you that depending on what you're looking for in return from them, your methods seem to work for you perfectly well. But, how can a Cabronish attitude toward them, demonstrating to them a lack of caring for them beyond the obvious, demonstrating to them that it does not matter whether you see them or not, serve the hybrid GFE'er well with respect to soliciting any actual depth of feeling from them for overall legitimate long-term effect, void of any "act" on their part for monetary gain?

My big question about the "Cabronish" methodology, and where I take issue with that methodology for my own self, is in it being able to solicit a "true" legitimate emotional attachment. And, it can be best illustrated by asking one question. Would you employ those same methods with a loving wife or girlfriend, and expect the relationship to flourish under those same conditions? The answer is a resounding NO!

So, while I totally agree with you about using those methods with MOST of the girls for the run of the mill purposes for most, I do not believe that method works if you are interested in experiencing the hybrid GFE, and experiencing what a "deeper" meaning has to offer.

I am not saying that anyone should seek a deeper meaning in what we do necessarily. I'm just saying that there is simply no way that a legitimate deeper meaning, if that is what one enjoys, is perpetuated by using Cabronish methods. And, to go even further, to perpetuate a Cabronish approach with girls that WILL develop a deeper meaning for Hybrid GFE, the use of Cabronish methods only serves to sabotage the development of a deeper meaning with them, assuming of course, that they are not being totally disingenuous in their professed feelings to begin with, which is always a possibility with the kinds of girls we're dealing with.

I am here to say also say that while many will not believe that a deeper meaning is possible with these kinds of girls, I am also here to testify that it IS most certainly possible. It's a matter of choices, to choose methodologies that solicit what you're looking for. If you're getting all that you seek in what you like from your methods, then nobody can argue with your methods, and I accept them as productive for you.

And...entertaining....:-)))

Say hello to my Angel...:-))) Tell her I miss her.

Your sixth sense is wrong.
I also treat the girls the same way and the track record is one or more girls per club. Right now I have so many girls that I can't see them all.
I even got texted yesterday by my Casino night girl while being at the Obsession with my afternoon shift girl sitting on my side.
She got angry and demanded that I didn't answer at all cause she's "the only one".
And I did exactly what Wasted does: I didn't pay attention, I just answered the message.
You see? That is the point you don't get.
We don't let the girls get their way.
We get our way with the girls and that can be obtained both being a "cabron" and/or a nice guy.
The thing is how to do it.

And of course the girls have legit feelings for us.
The girls are not made of stone and both Wasted's and my style go straight to the girl's feelings. That is part of getting our way with them. If we didn't do that, we wouldn't get 100% of our money.
But we still need to read them right or a revolution might occur.

And this is not true: "to perpetuate a Cabronish approach with girls that WILL develop a deeper meaning for Hybrid GFE, the use of Cabronish methods only serves to sabotage the development of a deeper meaning with them"

Nope... again a rotund "nope".

There are girls that need to be treated a little rough and there are girls that like it nice and soft.

By rough I mean, we as customers acting tough and inflexible with money, the way we treat them, how we see them, how we deal with them, how we act with other girls and her at the same time.

Angry Girl is one of the girls that likes (and I repeat, "likes") to be treated rough, but your style does not go that way and the soft aproach on these kind of girls only hits you back straight in the eye.
Being soft and nice with rough girls will get you no where and whatever you do, will not straighten them out.

But girls like Angry Girl on the other hand are a total waste of time. They might be good for one or 2 sorties but nothing more. Their type can just not be molded with soft or hard ways.

And this aplies to your system: girls that like it rough and tough (95% of the girls) might go for the novelty of a soft and gentelman touch, but that style outlasts it's novelty pretty darn quickly and they on their hand quickly revert to their system of closing all openings and returning to their ways of controling the customer.
Once the gaps close, there is no way of opening them again.





[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]I enjoyed reading your escapades WastedG. It occurs to me that your escapades with your two girls is the basis for further discussion about our varied choices of methodology.

While your circumstances and the application of Cabronish methodology seemingly works well for you, within the context of apparently getting you what you want in Monterrey, it does not prove that your "P" girl doesn't have legitimate feelings for you, nor does it mean that she was not jealous in the emotional sense, behind the professional jealously that's part of their regular "routine."

When I assess the sincerity of your P girl versus Lady J, just in their respective demeanors, I sense that Lady J lacks the depth of sincerity that I sense in your P girl. Nobody can really know for sure with these girls. But, just my sixth sense, and witnessing her behavior first hand in the past, over a number of years now, tells me that your P girl was legitimately jealous and angry.

Now, with respect to the Cabronish methods, I agree with you that depending on what you're looking for in return from them, your methods seem to work for you perfectly well. But, how can a Cabronish attitude toward them, demonstrating to them a lack of caring for them beyond the obvious, demonstrating to them that it does not matter whether you see them or not, serve the hybrid GFE'er well with respect to soliciting any actual depth of feeling from them for overall legitimate long-term effect, void of any "act" on their part for monetary gain?

My big question about the "Cabronish" methodology, and where I take issue with that methodology for my own self, is in it being able to solicit a "true" legitimate emotional attachment. And, it can be best illustrated by asking one question. Would you employ those same methods with a loving wife or girlfriend, and expect the relationship to flourish under those same conditions? The answer is a resounding NO!

So, while I totally agree with you about using those methods with MOST of the girls for the run of the mill purposes for most, I do not believe that method works if you are interested in experiencing the hybrid GFE, and experiencing what a "deeper" meaning has to offer.

I am not saying that anyone should seek a deeper meaning in what we do necessarily. I'm just saying that there is simply no way that a legitimate deeper meaning, if that is what one enjoys, is perpetuated by using Cabronish methods. And, to go even further, to perpetuate a Cabronish approach with girls that WILL develop a deeper meaning for Hybrid GFE, the use of Cabronish methods only serves to sabotage the development of a deeper meaning with them, assuming of course, that they are not being totally disingenuous in their professed feelings to begin with, which is always a possibility with the kinds of girls we're dealing with.

I am here to say also say that while many will not believe that a deeper meaning is possible with these kinds of girls, I am also here to testify that it IS most certainly possible. It's a matter of choices, to choose methodologies that solicit what you're looking for. If you're getting all that you seek in what you like from your methods, then nobody can argue with your methods, and I accept them as productive for you.

And...entertaining....:-)))

Say hello to my Angel...:-))) Tell her I miss her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amigomio]Your sixth sense is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying, then, that I should try your ways in all circumstances with ALL of my girls? So, you think that if I do, the outcome will be better for me? Or, will it sabotage me in some, and prove me successful in others? You see, there are some girls where I agree with you, and there are some girls where I disagree with you.

Simply put, I do not want such experimentation to negatively influence circumstances where I am sooooo successful currently, where I am in absolute paradise with certain ones of them NOW...that's the bottom line.

If I try your tactics, you are guaranteeing that I will be MORE successful with the ones that I am already successful with, successful in my wildest dreams, right?

Theory is one thing, but living with defeat is quite another when you know that what you're currently enjoying is working quite well with absolutely NO CHANGES. There are already too many outside influences that I have no control over that can, and do, influence my scenarios, sometimes negatively. And, afterall, there are many clubs to experiment with tactics where one does not soil one's own nest. I DO NOT want to foul-up a good thing just to see if the alternative could be...what??? better???? Not possible under the current circumstances with some!!!

I WILL employ the Cabronish tactics with my little manipulator in El Prestige. Lets experiment there first. That should demonstrate whether the Cabronish methods will work for me there. I have already tried everything else with her.

So, what do you advise...How should I play that scenario?

Somewhere along the line, with editing a changing stuff, I must have deleted the line that said more or less "your style is being soft and gentlemanish to the girls".
That's it. Your style is that one. No changes are available, but adjusting a little to the side of the girls is possible.

No, one thing to be realized is that you, USB will not be able from one day to another change to a real "cabron" guy.
We have discussed this over the years, that your original style works really good for you. Really, really good.
Specially when you modified your aproach with the cookies.
But you have becomed a little overconfident with this aproach. You think it's fool proof and that it will work with ALL the girls.
That's mistake #1.
Mistake #2 is that is once you establish a rapport with the girl, you think you've done the job. You broke the ice... and that's not true.
You've established rapport but that doesn't mean at all you have control of the situation. None
The other way around: You have failed to notice the girl controling you.
(This aplies to the Prestrige N girl and the one you paid salida at the Harem, the one I openly told you right in front of her that she was not worth it).

This is why you are dissapointed, cause it use to give you good results.
This is my point, you are overconfident that your approach works.
And YES, your approach works, but you have forgotten to pay attention to the mechanics of it.



[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Are you saying, then, that I should try your ways in all circumstances with ALL of my girls? So, you think that if I do, the outcome will be better for me? Or, will it sabotage me in some, and prove me successful in others? You see, there are some girls where I agree with you, and there are some girls where I disagree with you.

Simply put, I do not want such experimentation to negatively influence circumstances where I am sooooo successful currently, where I am in absolute paradise with certain ones of them NOW...that's the bottom line.

If I try your tactics, you are guaranteeing that I will be MORE successful with the ones that I am already successful with, successful in my wildest dreams, right?

Theory is one thing, but living with defeat is quite another when you know that what you're currently enjoying is working quite well with absolutely NO CHANGES. Afterall, there are many clubs to experiment with tactics where one does not soil one's own nest. I DO NOT want to foul-up a good thing just to see if the alternative could be...what??? better???? Not possible in current circumstances!!![/QUOTE]

Bob, I will try to answer your points one at a time:

1) Yes, Sweet P does in fact have legitimate feelings for me. It's been 3 years now. I took her on salida when she first started working. I've become a known figure with her family. She replies to her mom, sister and friends that she is with her husband and they all understand it's Wasted.

Now get this: She is now asking if she can come home with me. She is going to look into getting a visa. .... we'll see what will happen. I am not taking this issue too seriously. She is not the first and she will not be the last. Besides, I am almost confident she will not get a visa.

I abandoned her a couple of times and she always comes back.

Now this time, she really lost the war because she returned after she asked me to act like we never met. She cannot use that card again.

2) Lady J loves me. She never let me down and never ever bail out on a date. She showers me with affection and she 'claims' I am the only she is seeing now. Bullshit.

3) Yes, I would employ this method ... as in same fashion .. with my wife. As a matter of fact, this is probably why we have been together for so long. I am extremely good to her but she knows better not to get me angry.

4) I guarantee you this: If you try this at home ... I mean Infinito, you will fall flat on your face. You did before. It's like watch someone drive and saying "hey, I can do that" but all you've been watching is how to handle the steering wheel.

Carlos and I team up on the girls. We help each other out. We up-talk each other to the girls. We tell them they would be fools if they do not hold on to us because they will not find a better customer. It works. Most of the time. Of course it does not work when Carlos has his eyes on the girl I want. That son of a fish.



5) Entertaining you said? You bet. Carlos sat down to watch fire fireworks and then lived it when he became the messenger. And when at Infinito, drama filled the club that night. All the girls knew and the manager forced her to set with me. All the while I was enjoying watching evens fold and watching the results of my actions. Down to asking her if she was going to pay for the candy she chose. The fun part was watching Sweet P come down the stage with a blush. I did not think she could blush. She did not blush when I told the hotel front desk that my toilet was plugged because she took a big dump. I think It was Carlos who used it last thou.

Yes, it's fun. I admit that Sweet P's feelings were hurt. But I am sure she's very happy now since she got me to pay for half her hair extension.

So no. Don't do it.


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]
1) .....it does not prove that your "P" girl doesn't have legitimate feelings for you, .....

2) When I assess the sincerity of your P girl versus Lady J, just in their respective demeanors, I sense that Lady J lacks the depth of sincerity that I sense in your P girl.

3) Would you employ those same methods with a loving wife or girlfriend, and expect the relationship to flourish under those same conditions? The answer is a resounding NO!

4) If I try your tactics, you are guaranteeing that I will be MORE successful with the ones that I am already successful with, successful in my wildest dreams, right?

5) And...entertaining....:-)))
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[QUOTE=Wastedgman]Bob, I will try to answer your points one at a time:[/QUOTE]

Well, guys, Carlos and WastedG, I am willing to try it with my N girl at Prestige. I know better than to change my spots with the girls I am successful with now. They like me for the way I am to them, and I do not want to burst that bubble. Obviously, why change what works. But, in cases where certain tactics of mine are not working, I have nothing to lose.

So, guys, give me exact recommendations. When I see the N girl next, how should I play it?

WastedG, while you're there, have Carlos introduce you to my N girl and make an assessment. Give me your best advise. I'll try it. On the N girl, I have nothing to lose.

Didn't the both of us, Carlos and I, just say, "Don't do it"? ;-)

But anyways, that N girl? I already know her and I already had my way with her. But ... she would be a perfect target to practice on. Although I strongly believe you will not be able to do it. You are too nice of a guy. This is besides the fact that Prestige girls are too tough to get under control. They expect you to by them cars and SUV's. My regular "V" just returned to work after she has been with a client for a few months already. He bought her a car. And Fernanda at Obsession? She got an SUV. These girls expect something besides being the cabron. They want the rich carbon that will buy them a car.

So far, I managed to get 4 Prestige girl out and a couple of the Obsession. And to tell you the truth, it was effortless. I recall the first time I had Fernanda. I did not ask for her again. Since then on, when I walk into the club, she yells out and screams my name and does not leave my side until she finally got the hint.

The other one, if you recall my Monterrey dream girl, it took me forever to get her to come to my hotel. When she finally did, she was coming over every night and had become X girl's squeeze.

Last 2, one was Carlos' little young hot one. But she came only because Carlos gave her permission. Still, that stinker Carlos made her feel so guilty she begged for forgiveness... all because he was being a cabron.

When RTW came down for the first time, I helped him take one Obsession girl out, if you recall, on the same day they met. She showed up to everyone's surprise and to also get in deep trouble because she was seen with him.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Well, guys, Carlos and WastedG, I am willing to try it with my N girl at Prestige. I know better than to change my spots with the girls I am successful with now. They like me for the way I am to them, and I do not want to burst that bubble. Obviously, why change what works. But, in cases where certain tactics of mine are not working, I have nothing to lose.

So, guys, give me exact recommendations. When I see the N girl next, how should I play it?

WastedG, while you're there, have Carlos introduce you to my N girl and make an assessment. Give me your best advise. I'll try it. On the N girl, I have nothing to lose.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amigomio]Angry Girl is one of the girls that likes (and I repeat, "likes") to be treated rough/QUOTE]

Remember one thing...You knew Angry Girl when she was a DRUG ADDICT. She is not that way, not really. Remember, I knew her long before the drugs ruined her. It was obvious to me that the drugs altered her personality. The last time I saw her, she was no longer the "Angry Girl," but behaved as her old self.

Drugs do that. I hope she stays off them.