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[QUOTE=DazeUp;2552016]Honestly, it's reading this type of thing every other day that's made me scratch any plans to retire in Thailand. No thanks, would rather find somewhere where I am not viewed as a pest and can maintain a fair amount of dignity.[/QUOTE]You would let someone steal your joy that easily? There has not been a day that I have been walking around Thailand or anyplace else on this planet worrying about how other people were viewing me. You can probably bet that in all places you would go someone is going to view you in some kind of way. Why even worry about it. Mind your own business and make your own fun instead of allowing others to be in charge of your dignity. To me Thailand has always been about people being themselves. We have some strange characters walking around Pattaya and I like that they can just be themselves.

[QUOTE=DazeUp;2552016]Honestly, it's reading this type of thing every other day that's made me scratch any plans to retire in Thailand. No thanks, would rather find somewhere where I am not viewed as a pest and can maintain a fair amount of dignity.[/QUOTE]Which country would that be? Scratch all of Asia off your list if you are a Farang. No matter where you go in the world you will be viewed as a foreigner unless of course your ancestors are Spanish and you decide to retire in Spain. Think of how a Thai man is treated in Germany. I'm certain they aren't treated as an equal by the Germans.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2552353]Which country would that be?[/QUOTE][URL]https://internationalliving.com/the-best-places-to-retire/[/URL]

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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2552261]To date, the list is over 100 venues (and growing) [/QUOTE]It looks like it is all closing down again if I read correctly. Pattaya is a red zona as of Apr 30th.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2552353]... Think of how a Thai man is treated in Germany. I'm certain they aren't treated as an equal by the Germans.[/QUOTE]Uh ... yes they are. Any Thai will pay the same price to visit museums etc as Germans pay, the reverse would be in violation of EU law and have the media up in arms. Any Thai involved in a road accident will be considered by police and the courts as "Party A or B". If the Thai national was the wronged party or the one who was involved in the accident through no fault of their own, the case will be decided against the German guy (even if the German guy is a big shot in government or industry). Happens all the time in Europe. This doesn't mean that (especially local) police can't be prejudiced in favour of local people sometimes, but this is frowned upon and there's no bias culture against foreigners. What there is is a systemic bias in favour of wymmyns (Thai or not) in family law and criminal law, like everywhere in the West.

Pattaya closing down. Even swimming pools. Pisses me off no end. I nearly got a nervous break-down in February jumping the hoops to get back to Thailand in March. Three weeks after I got out of my 16-day quarantine, entertainments venues were ordered shut. Three weeks' mongering is what I got for all my trouble.

If Europe was not 2 months behind the US with vaccination I would fly back now, get my jabs, and see where I can travel next.

[QUOTE=XXL;2552510]Uh ... yes they are. [/QUOTE]I didn't just randomly make up my post. I was in Germany with an Asian American who had racial slurs flung his way and 60+ year old Germans calling him "Bruce Lee" and making kung fu hand movements. He's not even Chinese! This happened at GT. Pretty sure this isn't being treated with equality and dignity.

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Pattaya closing down. Even swimming pools. Pisses me off no end. [/QUOTE]

A risk we all need to take into account when we decide to travel anywhere. The world is in lockdown now. It may not change any time soon. I almost went to Germany earlier this year when there was a small window to go. Decided not to since I thought FKK clubs may shut down soon. Luckily I didn't go because a week later FKK clubs closed and still have not reopened.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2552519]I didn't just randomly make up my post. I was in Germany with an Asian American who had racial slurs flung his way and over 60 Germans calling him "Bruce Lee" and making kung fu hand movements. He's not even Chinese! This happened at GT. Pretty sure this isn't being treated with equality and dignity.[/QUOTE]At Golden Times? Not exactly a German place. 80% of the patrons non-Germans. But GT had its own arbitrary door policy. Even Germans regularly got turned away from what I read. I never was, though noticeably not looking like a Northern type. Maybe because I drove an upper mid-size car. Your Bruce Lee friend should count himself lucky having been let in. Such discriminatory door policies are rare in Germany, mostly confined to entertainment places (sex and discos).

[QUOTE=XXL;2552510]Pattaya closing down. Even swimming pools. Pisses me off no end. I nearly got a nervous break-down in February jumping the hoops to get back to Thailand in March. Three weeks after I got out of my 16-day quarantine, entertainments venues were ordered shut. Three weeks' mongering is what I got for all my trouble.

If Europe was not 2 months behind the US with vaccination I would fly back now, get my jabs, and see where I can travel next.[/QUOTE]You did get to have a cheap lunch with Monkeypaw. That alone should be worth your troubles. LOL.

[QUOTE=XXL;2552521]Your Bruce Lee friend should count himself lucky having been let in. Such discriminatory door policies are rare in Germany, mostly confined to entertainment places (sex and discos).[/QUOTE]He was with me and I was pretty close with door girl Heidi/Monika since she was one of my regular girls. Asians do not have problems getting in to Goldentime. There are tons of them in there. Only time I saw an Asian turned away is because he looked like a gangbanger. Blacks and Indians have almost zero chance of getting in. Even dark skinned Europeans have issues. Definitely no Turks. Germans and Dutch who can't get in have been blackballed.

I personally get along great with German men. Not so much Dutch men.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552334]You would let someone steal your joy that easily? There has not been a day that I have been walking around Thailand or anyplace else on this planet worrying about how other people were viewing me. You can probably bet that in all places you would go someone is going to view you in some kind of way. Why even worry about it. Mind your own business and make your own fun instead of allowing others to be in charge of your dignity. To me Thailand has always been about people being themselves. We have some strange characters walking around Pattaya and I like that they can just be themselves.[/QUOTE]There you go. Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2552519]I didn't just randomly make up my post. I was in Germany with an Asian American who had racial slurs flung his way and 60+ year old Germans calling him "Bruce Lee" and making kung fu hand movements. He's not even Chinese! This happened at GT. Pretty sure this isn't being treated with equality and dignity[/QUOTE]You are mistaking individuals being racist to broad racism by a society including the government. Do you read newspaper articles every other day in Germany that imply that Thais or Asians are behind the spread of covid, or does the government campaign against that type of thinking.

Sure there are racists in Germany and sure not all Thais are racist. But this is not what we are talking about here.

And what does this have to do with being yourself or being an individual, this is about constantly reading the news to find that a whole race is behind all the ills of the society, or any ill they can find an excuse for. Could you imagine the German foreign minister on the news saying ' be careful of the dirty Asians'.

End of his job.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552334]You would let someone steal your joy that easily? There has not been a day that I have been walking around Thailand or anyplace else on this planet worrying about how other people were viewing me. You can probably bet that in all places you would go someone is going to view you in some kind of way. Why even worry about it. Mind your own business and make your own fun instead of allowing others to be in charge of your dignity. To me Thailand has always been about people being themselves. We have some strange characters walking around Pattaya and I like that they can just be themselves.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to get spat on and say 'I'm not going to let them steal my joy.' Because I do have some dignity, or whatever is left it it, to maintain. I can go somewhere else with my money and enjoy myself. And this has nothing to do with how individual people view me or me being myself. Most of us would agree we don't give a flying fluke what other individuals think. I'm talking about the whole society and reading every other day that everyone who looks like you is behind whatever the vice of the day is.

If I feel I need Thai ass that bad I'll catch a flight and scratch my itch. No need to live there.

[QUOTE=XXL;2552510]Uh ... yes they are. Any Thai will pay the same price to visit museums etc as Germans pay, the reverse would be in violation of EU law and have the media up in arms. Any Thai involved in a road accident will be considered by police and the courts as "Party A or B". If the Thai national was the wronged party or the one who was involved in the accident through no fault of their own, the case will be decided against the German guy (even if the German guy is a big shot in government or industry). Happens all the time in Europe. This doesn't mean that (especially local) police can't be prejudiced in favour of local people sometimes, but this is frowned upon and there's no bias culture against foreigners. What there is is a systemic bias in favour of wymmyns (Thai or not) in family law and criminal law, like everywhere in the West.

Pattaya closing down. Even swimming pools. Pisses me off no end. I nearly got a nervous break-down in February jumping the hoops to get back to Thailand in March. Three weeks after I got out of my 16-day quarantine, entertainments venues were ordered shut. Three weeks' mongering is what I got for all my trouble.

If Europe was not 2 months behind the US with vaccination I would fly back now, get my jabs, and see where I can travel next.[/QUOTE]Maybe you could consider the situation to your advantage? Having just got out of quarantine yesterday and sitting in Bangkok as I write this. I hope Thailand completely closes travel again. Zero entry into the country. It is selfish of me to say but now that I made it I feel the fewer people here the cheaper the rent and the more girls there are available.

[QUOTE=Cohend386;2553272]Maybe you could consider the situation to your advantage? Having just got out of quarantine yesterday and sitting in Bangkok as I write this. I hope Thailand completely closes travel again. Zero entry into the country. It is selfish of me to say but now that I made it I feel the fewer people here the cheaper the rent and the more girls there are available.[/QUOTE]I really hope the gov't will get it's act together and vaccine EVERYONE.

[QUOTE=Cohend386;2553272]Maybe you could consider the situation to your advantage? Having just got out of quarantine yesterday and sitting in Bangkok as I write this. I hope Thailand completely closes travel again. Zero entry into the country. It is selfish of me to say but now that I made it I feel the fewer people here the cheaper the rent and the more girls there are available.[/QUOTE]Is Nana Plaza open?