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Some more toughts on this topic.

I would not advise sponsoring a bar girl, unless in case of a clear changing of life (I. E. Start studies, open a shop, etc.). I have fucked too many girls with sponsors, with a special mention for 2 girls: one I fucked 2 weeks before she flew to the USA to join her husband, and the other I fucked 2 days before she did the same to Germany. And even if they change their life, hmmm.

I've sponsored a student in Chiang Mai for one and half year. It was more like a GF, but in Thailand it's the same: if you have a girl friend (I. E. A "good" girl) and you have money, you must pay for her expenses and help her familly. I enjoyed similar benefits as described before: a nice, educated girl who was a good companion and had not been fucked by 1000 guys before. At the start it was not so expensive, I. E. Not more than I would have paid for a bar girl. I have stopped because she was starting asking for more money, and also because I could not spend as much time in Thailand as before.

The problem with sponsoring a GF is that the girl expects you to cover her expenses, whatever the time you spend with her. So it's only profitable if you spend enough time in Thailand with her.

Alltogether, if you add side expenses, airplane tickets for her, etc, a girlfriend is usually more expensive than paying bar girls when you need.

[quote=jonas; 1126484]hi johnthescot.

you won't a story from a sponsor john.

i give you mine, maybe it's not rely what you look for, because i have my sponsoring girl

in latvia, i lives in sweden, and it's a different, from have her 10h flight in asia.

and of course nobody cheated nobody,

for me it has been like a good hobby, a lot of people spend money on golf and so on.

this summer we desired to let us go different ways, of course we still have good contact,

but no more meetings including sex, she start to understand she getting older.

way we desired to go different ways was that we both think nearly 5 years was inof.

this sponsoring have cost me 60000-70000 €, now al say watt a idiot.

in this money i have included al travel expenses (a lot of flight tickets) , sponsoring in

money and presents for the girl.

first meeting she precisely has get 21 years, and she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me for 2 days, me. 2 weeks after my 50 years birthday, i was stuck with her, totally in love.

but after abut 1 year we have a agreement, she can fuck around with anybody in her own age,

so much she won't, as long she always stands up for me, and keep away for other sponsors.

so what did she get out of this.

i pay her education, first driving license, then 4 years study on university, she have a work beside to, that pays her daily life, she have seen a lot of country's in europe, we have been to usa 2 times we have been to thailand 3 times, and maybe the best for her, she always now that she have somebody to ask if she have economic problem, she never have had a standing.

payment p / month, but of course i send her money when she need.

so what did i get for the money.

i always have had a travelling partner, in business, or in weekend trips.

we have spend abut 5-7 weeks total every year together, and meeting at least ones a month.

she come to me, for weekend meetings, i spend weekends in her flat, she come to airport pick me up and left me.

i have seen her dancing with no underwear with thai girls in pattaya bars, and se her.

get and given, orgasm both to thai, chinese and latvian girls in 3 some, yes she is bi and.

love al abut sex, abut 5000 photos of her us what pictures.

and of course, al our orgasm together.

so now with key in hand, in never change this time against anything, and when i sitting in the rocking chair i going to have some lovely memory's to look back on.

am i going to looking for a new girl in the same arrangement, no i don't, because it have

taking so much strange of me under this year in planning and puzzling, and i start like my wife more and more, yes she never had a clue abut this.

but i still have my business trips, se you in bangkok 5 of mars,

i read the forum and have booked the ll.

jonas[/quote]if you've gone your seperate ways maybe some kind poster could help her out lol, not me you understand, i do enjoy fun with sponsored girls, and i have nothing against baltic girl lol.

[QUOTE=Engjoe;1126358]Ok I fess up. I did this a few years back with a girl in Venezuela. I was well, pretty much out of my mind unhappy at the time and clinging to something that was pleasant / happy. I did come to my senses after a month back in the west and realized it really wasn't going anywhere, so cut off communication and money. I have had long term relationships with girls from other cultures and languages, though local to me. That is still hard. You really can't assume they operate from the same set of assumptions / cultural outlook that you do. Having said that, I actually prefer women from other cultures and languages and plan to continue. But now I make sure that my money, livelihood and residence stays separate. The issue isn't the girls, its you if you are doing this. Why are you really doing it? You might not like the answer when it dawns on you, but hey, you were probably just going through a bad patch. Signed: One shamed head down[/QUOTE]Hey I think I agree with you on that point. The guy doing it needs to ask himself serious questions about why. I'm not immune to their charms either. I will admit that a couple of girls got me pretty hooked and over a period of say 6 months constant communication (and no mention of 'taking care of them' or helping with the sick mother etc) I can say that I thought I was in love with them. Luckily I came to my senses both times. Still keep in touch with them though.

I think I was pretty low after a serious relationship ended and I wanted validation that I could still get a pretty girl. Well turned out I could. We all can over there. It's just rarely for keeps. And for lots of good reasons.

JohnThescot

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1126381]Yeah, that's arguably right if you're fresh but having lived here for quite a few years already and mingled with all levels of Society, it is obvious to me who is P4P and who isn't.

Now I agree that in some cases, the P4P girls could prove more trustworthy[/QUOTE]Sounds like a minefield either way Nic. But then it's not that easy back here in the UK either with non P4P girls either. Who hasn't been cheated on here never mind Thailand.

JohnTheScot

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1126398]I never thought about sponsoring anyone before and have always balked at every sad story that I was given even when I knew it was not a lie. However once I did tell my girlfriend (without her asking) in BKK that I would pay for her to upgrade her room to one with air conditioning. She was a total non-pro, schoolteacher / swim coach. Well I never got around to sending any money. I did help her edit her resume though. She came to my country as a nanny and broke up with me soon after.

The married chick that I was hanging out with the last few days in Pattaya said that she told her husband that she didn't mind if he fucked the bargirls but she didn't want him to have any further contact with them. No phone numbers, no emails. So what does he go and do? Collect phone numbers, emails, AND send money. What the fuck dude? Why was that even necessary? Give us an inch and we cut our own foot off. [/QUOTE]Yeah we comment about how bad the girls can be to us but how many of lie and cheat to the girls? I personaly don't blame them for how they treat guys. They get it no better from us.

Sad but interetesting (sorry) that she broke up with you when she came here. I wonder how often that happens. Girl gets a visa then then thinks she can do better than the ferang she's got (not that I'm suggesting thats what happened with you) and lets be honest, what girl there couldn't do better than us? Face it thats why we go there. To get younger, more beautiful girls than our looks and / or age would normally allow. It's a tightrope!

JohnTheScot

[quote=jonas; 1126480]hi johnthescot.

you won't a story from a sponsor john.

i give you mine, maybe it's not rely what you look for, because i have my sponsoring girl

in latvia, i lives in sweden, and it's a different, from have her 10h flight in asia.

and of course nobody cheated nobody,

for me it has been like a good hobby, a lot of people spend money on golf and so on.

this summer we desired to let us go different ways, of course we still have good contact,

but no more meetings including sex, she start to understand she getting older.

way we desired to go different ways was that we both think nearly 5 years was inof.

this sponsoring have cost me 60000-70000 €, now al say watt a idiot.

in this money i have included al travel expenses (a lot of flight tickets) , sponsoring in

money and presents for the girl.

first meeting she precisely has get 21 years, and she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me for 2 days, me. 2 weeks after my 50 years birthday, i was stuck with her, totally in love.

but after abut 1 year we have a agreement, she can fuck around with anybody in her own age,

so much she won't, as long she always stands up for me, and keep away for other sponsors.

so what did she get out of this.

i pay her education, first driving license, then 4 years study on university, she have a work beside to, that pays her daily life, she have seen a lot of country's in europe, we have been to usa 2 times we have been to thailand 3 times, and maybe the best for her, she always now that she have somebody to ask if she have economic problem, she never have had a standing.

payment p / month, but of course i send her money when she need.

so what did i get for the money.

i always have had a travelling partner, in business, or in weekend trips.

we have spend abut 5-7 weeks total every year together, and meeting at least ones a month.

she come to me, for weekend meetings, i spend weekends in her flat, she come to airport pick me up and left me.

i have seen her dancing with no underwear with thai girls in pattaya bars, and se her.

get and given, orgasm both to thai, chinese and latvian girls in 3 some, yes she is bi and.

love al abut sex, abut 5000 photos of her us what pictures.

and of course, al our orgasm together.

so now with key in hand, in never change this time against anything, and when i sitting in the rocking chair i going to have some lovely memory's to look back on.

am i going to looking for a new girl in the same arrangement, no i don't, because it have

taking so much strange of me under this year in planning and puzzling, and i start like my wife more and more, yes she never had a clue abut this.

but i still have my business trips, se you in bangkok 5 of mars,

i read the forum and have booked the ll.

jonas[/quote]jonas, thanks for sharing. i totally get what you are sayin g and i think you and her had the right attitude. you allowed each other freedom and both knew what you were getting out of it. that sounds great.

that's a bit different from the guys who think the thai girl is a 'real girlfriend' or his property. he is jealous, doesn't want her working in a bar or going out with her friends. he is 1000's of miles away and she is a young girl with friends in party town! what else is she going to do but go out to the discos and of course she will meet guys who want her too. she might even meet me, or god forbid nicfrenchy! i just think a lot of these guys think their money can buy them young, beauty and loyalty. it can, but only for a night or a few days.

johnthescot

[QUOTE=El Frances; 1126519]Some more toughts on this topic.

I would not advise sponsoring a bar girl, unless in case of a clear changing of life (I. E. Start studies, open a shop, etc.). I have fucked too many girls with sponsors, with a special mention for 2 girls: one I fucked 2 weeks before she flew to the USA to join her husband, and the other I fucked 2 days before she did the same to Germany. And even if they change their life, hmmm.

I've sponsored a student in Chiang Mai for one and half year. It was more like a GF, but in Thailand it's the same: if you have a girl friend (I. E. A "good" girl) and you have money, you must pay for her expenses and help her familly. I enjoyed similar benefits as described before: a nice, educated girl who was a good companion and had not been fucked by 1000 guys before. At the start it was not so expensive, I. E. Not more than I would have paid for a bar girl. I have stopped because she was starting asking for more money, and also because I could not spend as much time in Thailand as before.

The problem with sponsoring a GF is that the girl expects you to cover her expenses, whatever the time you spend with her. So it's only profitable if you spend enough time in Thailand with her.

Alltogether, if you add side expenses, airplane tickets for her, etc, a girlfriend is usually more expensive than paying bar girls when you need. [/QUOTE]ElFrances, I agree. Withe the same reservations. If they are willing to start a new life etc BUT I've had the same experience as you.

I became really good friends with a stunning girl (and I don't use that lightly) who used to work in Superbaby. The one I mentioned in a previous post that I was a bit in love with. We used to chat every night on MSN after she finished work (or after she finished with her ST Jap). Never discussed money. She earned a lot and was happy enough doing what she was doing. I realised that if I didn't sponsor her she would keep doing it until she was either too old or someone else did. I decided against it. And the someone else did. She stopped working and anytime I went over we met up and surprise surprise we used to sleep together. She would always make sure we were back in the room when it was time to make his regular evening call and she would go out onto the balcony or corridor to chat to him. He was a pretty decent looking early / mid 30 something who was really nice to her and sent his money every month and chatted every night. She went over to germany to see him for a month and they decided then that they would get married the next year and she would live there. Great, what a happy story. BUT I know that everytime one of her old regulars would come over she would see them while they were there. Just the regulars.

Last time I saw her was September just before her bf was coming over for a holiday and taking her back to get married. Several times on that trip we'd go to cinema etc and then end up in bed again. And I know that she did the same with a couple of other guys who came over around the same time that she had known for a while.

The thing that scared me about it the most was that although she talked about him with genuine affection she used to talk about her plans for the future, work in germany for a few years, earn some money, come back to Pattaya to start her own business. So what about the bf / husband I asked. Oh he can come and visit anytime. It really was that simple to her. It was a business plan pure and simple. And she was / is one of the loveliest / kindest girls I've met in Thailand in my 35+ trips over the years.

I've met so many girls over the years that are happy to tell me about their sponsors / BFs / tiraks while I'm buying them drinks and agreeing on a price for the night or after sex pillow chat.

Not saying there aren't good ones out there but my god there is less odds finding her than winning the lottery!

JohnTheScot

Anyway lets get back to the topics that matter, ATM fees and how much for ST / LT? .

JohnTheScot

[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1126576]ElFrances, I agree. Withe the same reservations. If they are willing to start a new life etc BUT I've had the same experience as you.

I became really good friends with a stunning girl (and I don't use that lightly) who used to work in Superbaby. The one I mentioned in a previous post that I was a bit in love with. We used to chat every night on MSN after she finished work (or after she finished with her ST Jap). Never discussed money. She earned a lot and was happy enough doing what she was doing. I realised that if I didn't sponsor her she would keep doing it until she was either too old or someone else did. I decided against it. And the someone else did. She stopped working and anytime I went over we met up and surprise surprise we used to sleep together. She would always make sure we were back in the room when it was time to make his regular evening call and she would go out onto the balcony or corridor to chat to him. He was a pretty decent looking early / mid 30 something who was really nice to her and sent his money every month and chatted every night. She went over to germany to see him for a month and they decided then that they would get married the next year and she would live there. Great, what a happy story. BUT I know that everytime one of her old regulars would come over she would see them while they were there. Just the regulars.

Last time I saw her was September just before her bf was coming over for a holiday and taking her back to get married. Several times on that trip we'd go to cinema etc and then end up in bed again. And I know that she did the same with a couple of other guys who came over around the same time that she had known for a while.

The thing that scared me about it the most was that although she talked about him with genuine affection she used to talk about her plans for the future, work in germany for a few years, earn some money, come back to Pattaya to start her own business. So what about the bf / husband I asked. Oh he can come and visit anytime. It really was that simple to her. It was a business plan pure and simple. And she was / is one of the loveliest / kindest girls I've met in Thailand in my 35+ trips over the years.

I've met so many girls over the years that are happy to tell me about their sponsors / BFs / tiraks while I'm buying them drinks and agreeing on a price for the night or after sex pillow chat.

Not saying there aren't good ones out there but my god there is less odds finding her than winning the lottery!

JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]That sounds like a good business plan for her, maybe she'll work In a fkk club, earn plenty of €uros then return to Pattaya with a heavy bag. And the poor husband, won't know what happened.

[QUOTE=Jonas;1126484]I give you mine, maybe it's not rely what you look for, because I have my sponsoring girl[/QUOTE]I hope I live to emulate you.

[QUOTE=Jonas; 1126484]But after abut 1 year we have a agreement, she can fuck around with anybody in her own age,

So much she won't, as long she always stands up for me, and keep away for other sponsors. [/QUOTE]Why were you OK with her fucking young guys but not with having other sponsors?

[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1126572]He is 1000's of miles away and she is a young girl with friends in party town! What else is she going to do but go out to the discos and of course she will meet guys who want her too. She might even meet me, or god forbid NicFrenchy! I just think a lot of these guys think their money can buy them young, beauty and loyalty. It can, but only for a night or a few days.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. But think about it this way: I am doing all these guys a favor! I keep their girl Lubricated and prevent their Pussies from Closing up and drying out. .

[QUOTE=Evianist;1126674]Why were you OK with her fucking young guys but not with having other sponsors?[/QUOTE]First I must say that knowing a girl and be with her so much time I have been with this one.

Make us very close friends, we are the persons that know most abut each other al secrets.

We have share.

And your question abut way it was ok to playing with people in her own age.

First I think if she has one 'sponsor', she is my lover, not a girl that take money for pussy.

If you have more then one it's different in my eye.

The second thing is that I didn't be the one that prevent her to get in to a ordinary relation.

Jonas

[QUOTE=Jerboa;1126635]That sounds like a good business plan for her, maybe she'll work In a fkk club, earn plenty of €uros then return to Pattaya with a heavy bag. And the poor husband, won't know what happened.[/QUOTE]Well she did joke about working in a German Massage place but I don't think it was fully a joke.

JohnTheScot

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1126707]Absolutely. But think about it this way: I am doing all these guys a favor! I keep their girl Lubricated and prevent their Pussies from Closing up and drying out. .[/QUOTE]Totally selfless. I salute you!

JohnTheScot