Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1827889]....

I am surprised that you got 7 bites from 40 cards. An interesting technique. Not for me as I don't really want dates, but has some possibilities and some drawbacks....
[/QUOTE]The more attractive the woman, the more likely she is to be involved in a relationship with a guy. Because that's the kind of women guys go after.

An attractive non-P4P woman is very like to be already involved with some guy, when you approach her. And if she is P4P, then she has many guys after her, and she is involved with all of them.

That's why you get such poor statistics, with non-P4P women. The woman might be married or have a steady boyfriend, when you approach her at random, without even finding out if she is available or not.

Approaching potentially unavailable women usually leads to a lot of rejections. And there is no reliable way to know whether the woman is available or not. Because smiling and flirting is something married women do too. This isn't considered cheating. And in Thailand, it's not customary for married women to wear a wedding band. This is a western tradition that doesn't exist in Thailand.

Non-P4P women are difficult for guys, not necessarily because they want to make it difficult for you. But this is just a natural consequence of looking for an attractive woman among mostly un-available attractive women. You don't even know whom to approach. And you risk offending the lady too, if she happens to be married or engaged.

That's why this is something I won't even try. I'd rather go to a bar or to a massage parlor, where I know for sure that all of the women are available. It feels stupid to me to get rejected many times due lack of information. The non-P4P scene simply isn't set up for available people to find each other and make friends with each other. It's a huge waste of time and emotions in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1828124]That's why this is something I won't even try. I'd rather go to a bar or to a massage parlor, where I know for sure that all of the women are available. It feels stupid to me to get rejected many times due lack of information. The non-P4P scene simply isn't set up for available people to find each other and make friends with each other. It's a huge waste of time and emotions in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Yes and no, I travel a lot obviously, and I agree that I also found doing non p4 p in BKK is a waste of time, at least that's true for me. I have limited time in BKK when I'm there so I want certainty. Only one girl I still see I know from my non p4 p days. And she sees about every guy going to BKK, she is just truly horny and does not really care who she fucks (no I won't share details, she is on tinder, thaifriendly, cupid etc. Look around) For me p4 p in BKK is easy, cheap and available 24/7.

On the other hand some other countries are much better going non-p4 p (e. G. Taiwan) p4 p is bloody expensive there and lots of non-p4 p girls are willing to fuck a westerner just because you are exotic to them. In Taiwan I have about 10 girls I see regularly I even have to devide them over my trips there, decide who I will meet this time. Going as far as trying to remember who has her period when and take that into consideration when trying to make a certain schedule even LOL.

So for me Thailand is p4 p only with one exception, and Taiwan (and others) are non p4 p only.

I applaud him though for using his cards and trying to see which girls take the bait, it's something different. I would get some cards though with my Line or Wechat ID on it and write them a personal message like: text me! Or something so it feels more special to the girl.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1826736]I'm not sure if I like this standard of first round FS and second round HJ.

Because your first round is after you haven't had sex for a while. Which means that your balls are already so full of cum that you can't last for long with the lady. Your first round is more like a quick relief, than full enjoyment with her.

But you start your second round with empty balls. You need to work that hot chick with your dick to build up your second cum with her. Which means that this is when you get to last and nail the hot lady the way you want.

The only thing about the second round is that your hot lady needs to be well-lubricated and ready. Or else you lasting for a long time with her might injure her. When your rubber goes dry, and your lady doesn't have much lubrication, then this can quickly give the lady some rubber burns and make her unfit to do it with other guys.

The lady needs to be good at making herself ready and lubing herself up, when she goes for a second FS round with a guy. Because this is when her guy is going to last, even when he does her hard-and-fast.

But this is completely doable, and Annie's Massage is a good example of this. At Annie's Massage, the standard is BJ and HJ for your first round and FS for your second round. Annie's Massage ladies make their guys last every time. And apparently they do it without getting injured.

I'd say that Mitu's Massage standard of first round FS and second round HJ makes it easy for untrained and unskilled ladies. The lady doesn't need much skill or experience to take a guy like this. But I'm not sure that this is a good arrangement in terms of customer service. Why not train the ladies and make them good at it, instead of making it easy for them to perform without any training and skills?[/QUOTE]To further comment on Mitu on Soi 33. I agree with the above that FS 1st round then HJ or similar last round is not the optimal combination.

I would summarize it like this. If FS and fucking is what you desire, avoid Mitu. Go to PSE shops like Cherry, Mango etc. There usually, the massage is a bit shitty, but women are able to consume cock for breakfast, lunch and dinner and then ask for deserts. (You still need to treat them well to get the optimal experience. Make them feel safe with you.).

However Mitu is more of an relaxation facility. Don't expect hardcore fucking, don't expect anal, don't expect any crazy extras. Girls are young and shy. More used to Asian men then Farangs.

But! If you have had a stressful day (f. Ex. Sore back and some neck pain from a 3 some last evening). Management and girls at Mitu will provide ultimate relaxation. You really don't have to do shit. You stand there. They undress you, bath you, massage you, shower you, give you a cathbath, best Nuru (only with VIP room), slide around your body. This should be enough, but they are also kind enough to sit on your pole and ride you.

And even after finishing management is asking how it was, any comments on the girl etc. Ice-cream detail etc.

My best tip is just to be gentle and patient with them and let them do their thing. If you try and take control in "mitu" you are likely to have a bad experience as girls will be confused. Their English is also limited. Seems to me like they have not worked other places before.

Mitu is also pricey for Bangkok. So if you are looking primarily for a good fuck, there are other places to go.

[QUOTE=AirlineCrew;1828167]....And she sees about every guy going to BKK, she is just truly horny and does not really care who she fucks (no I won't share details, she is on tinder, thaifriendly, cupid etc. Look around) For me p4p in BKK is easy, cheap and available 24/7.

On the other hand some other countries are much better going non-p4p (e. G. Taiwan) p4p is bloody expensive there and lots of non-p4p girls are willing to fuck a westerner just because you are exotic to them....[/QUOTE]I was thinking more about monogamous women, who restrict themselves to one relationship with only one guy. That's the kind of relationship most people think of, when they talk about romance.

If the lady has many boyfriends, and she is especially interested in western guys, then there isn't much difference between her and the regular P4P ladies. Because your relationship with her isn't exclusive. You are sharing her with other guys. The only real difference is that you don't give her any money. Which isn't a big deal, unless you can't afford it.

The thing about being friends with such women, whether they are P4P or not, is that they all understand a guy who is nice to them, and they usually respond with some affection of their own. That's what the GFE experience is all about. And you can get it with your P4P lady too.

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I applaud him though for using his cards and trying to see which girls take the bait, it's something different.[/QUOTE]It's not really very novel. This stunt has been discussed many times on the Philippines threads.

It's very risky handing out cards with your contact information on it, especially if you are not highly selective. You need to be sure the girl has at least shown some interest in you in some way rather than passing it to her completely unsolicited.

I personally know of an instance in Manila where a girl received a card, took it home, showed it to her parents and they were not impressed by such crass behavior from a foreigner.

A trap was set and the guy was seriously embarrassed when he turned up for the date.

I know another case where the girl passed the card to her friend (a fugly) and she responded.

We have probably all seen the short video of the hotel lobby coffee shop with a sexy woman sitting at a table being admired by a guy at another table. He stood up to leave and as he passed her table he dropped his room key on her table and walked on. A few minutes later she stood up and as she walked past another table with a fat slob sitting at the table she dropped the first guy's key on his table and walked on. The video ended with the fat guy slobbering with surprise, and it's not too hard to imagine what went down eventually.

Potentially similar scenario could occur with your card (and number) ending up in the wrong hands.

I am very leery about giving out contact information randomly. So far, so good.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1828208]It's not really very novel. This stunt has been discussed many times on the Philippines threads.
[/QUOTE]I think there's a right time and a wrong time to pull out a preprinted card and hand it to a girl. The right time might be when your interacting with a waitress, bartender, massage girl and get a vibe that she likes you so you hand her a card and say lets meet up. The wrong time is when your walking in a mall and you just walk up to any girl and hand it over like one of those hawkers on walking street.

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During my first few days I checked the boxes on Nataree, Bit Style on 22 and Crazy Horse. [/QUOTE]Care to share more on Bit Style? I've never heard of this place and the website just says it's a HJ / BJ place from 900 baht without giving any more details.

I don't see the point of sharing your business card activities in this particular thread, which is about massage parlors.

I visited Mangos massage on soi 24 (subsoi to the left) recently and was surprised by the line-up. Several of the girls were in fact pretty, and not very old either. Seemed much better than my last visit two years ago. I got in and asked to choose girl. I picked Ee (spelling?) And a good choice she was. Exellent service with the usual stuff you get in an oily massage place. 2100 baht for one hour. Also A+.

Some weeks later I wanted to go there again, but then I was lured into nearby Orient massage. First time in this place for me. I chosed girl and up we went. Also this place is the same standard oil-massage style I like. I don't remember her name, but her pussy was so good that I forgot to ask for A+. Also here 2100 baht.

Another concept I like in Bangkok is BJ-bars. So one day I went to that place with the sencored name, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], but now it will say codeword900. It's located on soi 8 (subsoi to the right), the name starts with an L and and ends with an s (it's a plural word). The place is just as good as I remembered it. It's important to say "choose girl", and don't go with anyone thay give you. Exellent service (that means bbbjcimas and a girl with a nice sense of humour) upstairs for 800.

A few weeks ago I went to the most famous of these bars, DrBj on soi 7/1. It's well organised, and you don't' have to say those difficult words "choose girl!" LOL. They line up at once. The girl I got here wasn't as good as the one I got in the L-place though, but good enough. Cost here is 800-1000, but I like the L-place better (only based this on a few visits though).

What I like about these places is the casual style of the whole of it. Just om my way from buying some grocieries in a shop and eating at a restaurant I peek into a massage parlour for a while and get my fix. Yes, Bangkok makes me relax!

[QUOTE=Breadman;1828252]I think there's a right time and a wrong time to pull out a preprinted card and hand it to a girl. The right time might be when your interacting with a waitress, bartender, massage girl and get a vibe that she likes you so you hand her a card and say lets meet up. The wrong time is when your walking in a mall and you just walk up to any girl and hand it over like one of those hawkers on walking street.[/QUOTE]Right. I made the same point over in the Makati thread a few days ago in response to some poster's idea to hand out cards to all the girls he sees in the high end Greenbelt mall. I think it is very rude and just not the way to behave in a foreign country. Although it is not impossible to pick up an amateur in a high end shopping mall, it is unlikely. You need to have some game and a certain amount of class if you want to successfully play in this league. And in BKK I think you have to speak Thai as well. Handing out cards to all the attractive girls that walk by is simply the wrong thing to do, in the wrong place, at the wrong time and it might get you into some serious trouble if you offend the wrong girl with her man nearby. In other words, try not to be an asshole when travelling in foreign countries. It really helps.

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My best tip is just to be gentle and patient with them and let them do their thing. If you try and take control in "mitu" you are likely to have a bad experience as girls will be confused. Their English is also limited. Seems to me like they have not worked other places before.

Mitu is also pricey for Bangkok. So if you are looking primarily for a good fuck, there are other places to go.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insight. I am not a relax type nor extremely vigorous. However I don't want a massage other than Nuru. I prefer girls that can go with the flow rather than follow a procedure. Although I speak Thai, it still maybe not my style unless happen to get an adaptable girl.

John Traveller,

Nice report and I agree about finding some good looks in Mango. More than one girl I could do. Girls names are hard to spell. Ee may well be Aey but spelling in English doesn't matter too much.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1828196]I was thinking more about monogamous women, who restrict themselves to one relationship with only one guy. That's the kind of relationship most people think of, when they talk about romance.

If the lady has many boyfriends, and she is especially interested in western guys, then there isn't much difference between her and the regular P4P ladies. Because your relationship with her isn't exclusive. You are sharing her with other guys. The only real difference is that you don't give her any money. Which isn't a big deal, unless you can't afford it.

The thing about being friends with such women, whether they are P4P or not, is that they all understand a guy who is nice to them, and they usually respond with some affection of their own. That's what the GFE experience is all about. And you can get it with your P4P lady too.[/QUOTE]Thai women are the second most promiscuous females on the planet according to a recent study. Most are very unlikely to restrict their activities to one guy, be they P4 P or "regular" gals. Of course I would say this is a far more normal state than the monogamy so many worship in many parts of the West. I for one don't really care how many dudes the gal is doing. Quick shower and she is good as new. I am not in the hobby to feel "special. " In fact, I like an experiences gal with a well developed skill set.

Goatscrot.

You are probably not under any illusion that you made her come. Every woman is an actress. Some get could get awards for their performance. Too many members on ISG like to brag and kid themselves about what awesome studs they are.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1828387]Thai women are the second most promiscuous females on the planet according to a recent study. Most are very unlikely to restrict their activities to one guy, be they P4 P or "regular" gals. Of course I would say this is a far more normal state than the monogamy so many worship in many parts of the West. I for one don't really care how many dudes the gal is doing. Quick shower and she is good as new. I am not in the hobby to feel "special. " In fact, I like an experiences gal with a well developed skill set.[/QUOTE]Your categories, did not split between those married or with a "permanent" partner, compared to those single. I don't believe married Thai ladies are nearly as promiscuous as their husbands, however could have every right to be.

Single Thai girls may well have a lot of partners, however P4 P girls should be excluded from the survey. Non P4 P Thai girls have significant STD risks due to many partners. In the old days, if a Thai girl fucked some guy, she was considered to be his wife from then on, even if he fucked other girls. Fortunately, this has changed and allows Thai girls to be far more promiscuous than they could have been in old times. The double standard is gradually disappearing.

I would have thought Latina and African girls would be more willing to fuck around than non-P4P Thais.

Unlike Dan, I don't restrict the term "romance" to monogamous people. Love and sex are too different topics. Its possible to have strong romantic feelings for more than one girl at the same time, and still be fucking some other ones when excessively horny. I have also been in situation of having feelings too strong with more than one girl, and pondering if was possible to dump either of them and continue with just one. One of them picked another guy first, so my decision was not needed. Naturally, having zero girlfriends and freedom is the best scenario,

There was a decent line-up of about 15 girls. One of the girls who acted as the Mamasan tried to recommend a couple, but they were all dumpy looking. I picked a tall one with nice cheekbones and decent tits. Her name was Amy. It was my first time with her, but she asked why I had never picked her up before. Apparently she was in the line-up and remember me checking her out. I don't know how they remember so many clients. Their mental abilities are absolutely astounding.

For a change, I picked the bathtub room, which is only 200 Baht more, and in my view well worth it. It makes the girl feel special, and I like to fuck in a nice environment. Also the bath time allows for some naughty shenanigans.

I absolutely recommend Amy. I think she is really good looking. She is from the South but looks more Chinese. She has curly hair, not sure what that means, but apparently people teased her about that when she was young. Her English is good.

Good massage. BBBJ. Cowgirl, and quite a few other positions. I came in the missionary. She was pretty good in all positions. Didn't rush me, although we used the full hour. There was even a bit of a massage after sex. She tried to loosen me up with Thai massage, but beware the girl is strong!

Not a whole lot of personal connection, but it was sufficient to pass the time in agreeable company.

Would I repeat? If there's nothing better or newer in the line-up maybe. Would I recommend? Yes, and the bathtub room especially. All in all another solid Addict performance.