General Reports

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2554690]Like others have said, we don't know what will happen that far into the future.

A month ago I was thinking like you, I would go to Thailand in October, provided the quarantine requirements are easy. Now, I'm thinking many things could be closed for the trip. Easy quarantine doesn't help us if there is no fun after quarantine. To enjoy Thailand, I really need the full hospitality industry open (hotels, restaurants, tours, transportation, bars, massage, hookers, etc.). I want many tourists to be there, it's less fun if only a few people are there.

The Thai government has set a trend of making closure decisions today that go into effect very soon. We might get on our airplanes on September 15, but the rules may be very different on September 20. That is not at all comforting.

The planned Phuket sandbox concept is to start in July. It will be interesting to see how that goes.[/QUOTE]Yup. All the articles I've read have been indicating doom and gloom for the sandbox plan. There's still a lot of time (2 months) for things to calm down and for vaccines to roll out. But at it's current trajectory, it's not looking good.

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2554708]Thais are jabbing with the ineffective chink vaccine so re.

Mains to be seen what happens in future.[/QUOTE]It does not look good when there is no evidence that this vaccine is sufficiently effective. Remember last week that government official who said and then retracted that China would have to mix vaccines to get good results? Chile is still suffering from high cases of covid although they have widely distributed the sinopharm vaccine. No chinese or russian vaccine has undergone the rigorous scrutiny of the western vaccines.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2554905]Racist much?[/QUOTE]You give them an inch as they say? Sooner or later it will slip always happens but it doesn't mean the guy is racist? I drink coffee with a bunch of crackers a number of them for years mainly Brits and Aussie guys in the beginning they told me where it was used as common as putting sugar in their coffee in the context and tone I didn't get upset. I remember when I first came here off 3rd road the Brit opened two shops one for fish and chips and the other he served Chinese Food he names the place " Chinky ".

All in general but the Aussie seem even worse a few I know would put a number of red necks even Donald Trump to shame if I could cash in every time they use the and-word I would get pussy every day for free? Knowing them for years I don't consider them to be any more racist than I am it is how one grew up in their surroundings. Remember what I said about the computer!

[QUOTE=Downandup;2554932] No chinese or russian vaccine has undergone the rigorous scrutiny of the western vaccines.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think we've all seen the shit show of the English Oxford vaccine where every government realized that it's not only ineffective but also dangerous, yet they are not banning it for political reasons.

How can you all be sure that the Western products are better the other ones at such a early stage?

Really sad to hear. Hope to see the usual places back to some kind of acceptable new normal really soon.

[QUOTE=Tcvve;2554594]Hi.

Please help my confusion regarding Quarantine time in Thailand.

I received my final 2nd Covid-19 vaccine jab in March 2021.

If I arrive in Thailand September 2021, will I be quarantine for 7 or 10 days?

Thanks.

TC.[/QUOTE]Which means they way things go here, without a booster your past the effectiveness of your shots. No COE.

[QUOTE=Tcvve;2554594]Hi.

Please help my confusion regarding Quarantine time in Thailand.

I received my final 2nd Covid-19 vaccine jab in March 2021.

If I arrive in Thailand September 2021, will I be quarantine for 7 or 10 days?

Thanks.

TC.[/QUOTE]Right now, all quarantine is 14 days.

But, your real question is how long will Thailand honor your vaccination. The real answer depends on what the scientific community concludes about the effective lifetime of your immunity. But that conclusion will not be reached for another 3 months or so. You may require a booster before September.

Note that the emergence of variants may also impact the efficacy of your vaccinations. Fortunately, all variants announced so far emerged prior to mass vaccination, so they (the virus) didn't have an opportunity to develop an immunity to the vaccines.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2554932]It does not look good when there is no evidence that this vaccine is sufficiently effective. Remember last week that government official who said and then retracted that China would have to mix vaccines to get good results? Chile is still suffering from high cases of covid although they have widely distributed the sinopharm vaccine. No chinese or russian vaccine has undergone the rigorous scrutiny of the western vaccines.[/QUOTE]Chile has not vaccinated enough people to know whether the Sinovac vaccine is going to be sufficient to achieve herd immunity.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2554937]Yeah, I think we've all seen the shit show of the English Oxford vaccine where every government realized that it's not only ineffective but also dangerous, yet they are not banning it for political reasons.

How can you all be sure that the Western products are better the other ones at such a early stage?[/QUOTE]The main way to tell that would be comparing the effects of vaccinating a load of people in England with the Oxford vaccine with the effects of vaccinating a load of people in Hungary with Sputnik and Sinovac.

Coronavirus deaths are down to a handful a day in England, whereas Hungary has done the most vaccinating in the EU (sinovac and sputnik are additional to the EU supplies of western vaccines) and they are not in a stronger position than the other EU countries as a result.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555417]Right now, all quarantine is 14 days.

But, your real question is how long will Thailand honor your vaccination. The real answer depends on what the scientific community concludes about the effective lifetime of your immunity. But that conclusion will not be reached for another 3 months or so. You may require a booster before September.

Note that the emergence of variants may also impact the efficacy of your vaccinations. Fortunately, all variants announced so far emerged prior to mass vaccination, so they (the virus) didn't have an opportunity to develop an immunity to the vaccines.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head.

Very strange. Last weekend, the ladies were in Singapore. This weekend, they played in Pattaya. Maybe my math is off a bit, but I didn't count 14 days for quarantine, unless there was some time travel or manipulation going on. By the way, they don't have to wear masks, but somebody who is vaccinated and sitting alone in a their car has too. By the way, the ladies are staying at Avani and it's like a fortress.

Even more strange, COVID-19 supposedly has 14 days incubation from the time of contact. It's the guideline they use to establish how many quarantine days. However, an office was closed because somebody who was sick visited the office. All the staff was shipped off to 14 days quarantine. April 22 was the date the visitor made contact in the office. But the staff will be quarantined May 4-17.

Strangest of all is when that office staff was sent to quarantine. But when Jomtien Immigration was listed by officials on the track and trace timeline for an infection. It was business as usual with the same immigration staff in place. No quarantine necessary. This is why I have no guilt about how I live my life because it's pretty much all crooked.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/18/ex-pat-insider-2021-reveals-best-and-worst-destinations-in-the-world-to-live-abroad-thailand-moves-up-from-33-to-14-year-over-year/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2561645][URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/18/ex-pat-insider-2021-reveals-best-and-worst-destinations-in-the-world-to-live-abroad-thailand-moves-up-from-33-to-14-year-over-year/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thailand also ranks among the top 10 in the Leisure Options subcategory (7th), with most ex-pats (82%) happy with their socializing and leisure activities (vs. 67% globally). Moreover, the country comes 7th out of 59 in the Personal Happiness subcategory, with 85% of ex-pats being happy with their life in general (vs. 75% globally).
I think the ladies play a big part in the aforementioned high rankings.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2562188]Thailand also ranks among the top 10 in the Leisure Options subcategory (7th), with most ex-pats (82%) happy with their socializing and leisure activities (vs. 67% globally). Moreover, the country comes 7th out of 59 in the Personal Happiness subcategory, with 85% of ex-pats being happy with their life in general (vs. 75% globally).
I think the ladies play a big part in the aforementioned high rankings.[/QUOTE]I've read from various sources that tourism represents 15% to 20% of Thai economy. I'm curious what portion of the economy would be from ex-pats, assuming that ex-pat money is counted separately from tourism money.

Take the ladies away and a good portion of tourism and ex-pat money disappears from Thai economy.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2562191]I've read from various sources that tourism represents 15% to 20% of Thai economy. I'm curious what portion of the economy would be from ex-pats, assuming that ex-pat money is counted separately from tourism money.

Take the ladies away and a good portion of tourism and ex-pat money disappears from Thai economy.[/QUOTE]We as westerners are indoctrinated to think we are all unique, special and have great value. I remember having a similar conversation with some sex tourists about China scene during the initial first yanda in Chang Ping. They kept saying how it wouldn't continue and that it will recover due to the activity contributing a good portion to the economy etc etc, well nearly 10 yrs later if anything commercial sex activities has gotten even more underground.

I predict as much of a proportion it contributes, it can be easily replaced with a source that doesn't bring as much stigma and national shame. It not only that westerners engage openly and publicly in a debauched manner, but their activities also bring western media who name and shames this activity, thus shining the spotlight. This plus, with the option of working online; will be the direction the international sex scene will be moving in. No more dens of debauchery, but discreet and private interludes between 2 consenting adults. Obviously the local scene will still operate as the powers that be won't want their fun interrupted, but foreigners will not be welcomed generally.