Pattaya Reports

I usually don't judge people. But could hold back this time.

This is a forum for sharing experiences, and not sharing your sorrows of life or your bank balance.

However big your bank balance would be, you may end up in bed with the same girl who slept with a man earning half as yours. Its about the attitude and not about how much your wallet weighs.

I was in Phuket last week. Read my posts. I ended up having a time of my life, irrespective of what I earn in life. I scored a girl each nite (2 on one night) and I had another 4-5 wanting to come home with me, rather eager to come with me. I didn't show them my wallet. I was just nice to them. They would have charged me the same. Thats what they work for. But its the attitude and service that differs.

So stop cribbing. Book your tickets and take a holiday, and after that get back to your job and home.

Another piece of advice. You are way too young and may easily fall in love for a girl who holds your hand or kisses you passionately. Don't let your guard down. Remember who they are, and who you are.

[QUOTE=Monopoly;1445192]There seem to be many negative reports about Pattaya lately. Is it really that bad? Still worth visiting?[/QUOTE]Pattaya is always worth the visit, in my estimation, but it definitely goes through its shifts and changes. Right now it is low season, the weather sucks, Beach road is torn to shreds with the renovation project, and there is general sense of local people needing more money than they are getting from the pockets of the visiting Farang. Also, I'm seeing the cycle of change happening with some of the regular places I visit, in that some girls are moving on to other things (read: lesser-paying jobs) , and being replaced by new, fresher, and skinnier girls. The Thai lady you paid 2, 500 TBH for short time from that fancy Go Go can now be found asking for 1000 or less, now she is working at a Beer Bar. Same pussy, but in a more jaded girl. Case in point, last night. In returning along Beach Road I bumped into two girls that I had, last year, taken out of a Go Go for a three way, at a total cost of 5, 000 THB + lady drinks. Last night, on Coconut Bar at 11 pm on a Friday night, they both agreed to back with me for 1000 THB apiece, overnight. Such is the Circle Of Life, here in Pattaya.

There are still beautiful girls here, but you have to look around. There are also many who have done the Pattaya-Isaan back-and-forth journey several times, and are deeply disappointed they have not yet lined up one or two sponsors, or are just plain bored with the whole P4P scene. You can understand why, when fresh stock pours in annually from Isaan: young and hot girls who get all the attention, and leaving just scraps for their seasoned older sisters and cousins. Additionally, I suspect the world economic situation is affecting the overall flow of THB into Pattaya, with people watching their budget more closely.

I'm now thinking about heading over to explore some other places, and reduce time spent in Pattaya. But still, if convenience is what you want, and hunting is your game, Pattaya is still #2 on the P4P scene. Now, if only I can find the place that is #1, I'll be off there. I suspect that Bangkok may be that place, but be prepared to pay much, much more than right here.

- Gunga

[QUOTE=Gunga Din; 1445528]Pattaya is always worth the visit, in my estimation, but it definitely goes through its shifts and changes. Right now it is low season, the weather sucks, Beach road is torn to shreds with the renovation project, and there is general sense of local people needing more money than they are getting from the pockets of the visiting Farang. Also, I'm seeing the cycle of change happening with some of the regular places I visit, in that some girls are moving on to other things (read: lesser-paying jobs) , and being replaced by new, fresher, and skinnier girls. The Thai lady you paid 2, 500 TBH for short time from that fancy Go Go can now be found asking for 1000 or less, now she is working at a Beer Bar. Same pussy, but in a more jaded girl. Case in point, last night. In returning along Beach Road I bumped into two girls that I had, last year, taken out of a Go Go for a three way, at a total cost of 5, 000 THB + lady drinks. Last night, on Coconut Bar at 11 pm on a Saturday night..[/QUOTE]I can say Bangkok is number 1. And yes it does cost more. Due to the fact there are actually hot girls all over the darn place.

There are many agogo girls who would do themselves justice by stepping off the agogo stage and going to work at the nearest beer garden or open air type bar.

The sponsor thing got to be overrated. We only hear about the few who can and not about the 1000s who cannot.

[QUOTE=Monopoly;1445192]There seem to be many negative reports about Pattaya lately. Is it really that bad? Still worth visiting?[/QUOTE]That report was full of negativity and brash - "I'm young and handsome", however when going to the physical quality of women is mostly correct, there few lookers and be prepared to have competition for them, plus you may get poor attitude and service in any case.

Still better here than "home".

[QUOTE=Marcos; 1445691]That report was full of negativity and brash. "I'm young and handsome", however when going to the physical quality of women is mostly correct, there few lookers and be prepared to have competition for them, plus you may get poor attitude and service in any case.

Still better here than "home".[/QUOTE]Stop with all this there are few good lookers in Pattaya. You guys make a certain poster who has never been there look good!

[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1442442]The hotel desk clerk gave her the usual Thai interrogation all girls get, as we all negotiate the border checkpoint between the road and my bed. 'Name? ', he asked her, in Thai. He paused, comparing her stuttered response with the I'd. 'What is your birthday? ' he asked, again in Thai, staring intently at her I'd.[/QUOTE]What interrogation? I've never stayed in a hotel where they asked the girl [i]any[/i] questions whatsoever, and in many of hotels they don't even ask to see or keep the ID card. I admit I only stay at hotels in the 500-1000 baht range.

Why didn't you simply take your girl to a short-time hotel? That's the recommended practice anyway, for safety.

[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1445535]I can say Bangkok is number 1. And yes it does cost more. Due to the fact there are actually hot girls all over the darn place.[/QUOTE]Where are these hot girls? I don't usually do much mongering in Bangkok, although I'm occasionally there on business for a couple of days and usually stay in Nana and go have a look at Patpong.

I never see 'hot girls' anywhere, and the quality I see doesn't really look much different from Pattaya (that is, equally poor in both cases)

[QUOTE=Streetwalker7; 1445535]I can say Bangkok is number 1. And yes it does cost more. Due to the fact there are actually hot girls all over the darn place.

There are many agogo girls who would do themselves justice by stepping off the agogo stage and going to work at the nearest beer garden or open air type bar.

The sponsor thing got to be overrated. We only hear about the few who can and not about the 1000s who cannot.[/QUOTE]A Harold444 by any other name is still a Harold444. You can always tell by the same old tired rant.

As far as the sponsor topic goes I know a woman in Pattaya with a t-shirt shop who is the spitting image of Olive Oil's 50 year old sister. Her number might be a 3. In the 10 years that I've known her she has had at least 5 sponsors and one married her for a few years before he woke up. Think about it. She's old, far from pretty, does not even work bar but is very much in the game. So what do you suppose the lovelies, even the 6's and 7's can pull off?

[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1445528](snip) Right now it is low season, the weather sucks(snip)[/QUOTE]Ain't that true. Being the first time I've been here in July after several visits to the country over the years, how dissapointing with all these thickly overcast skies that hang there for days on end (until the rain comes and hammers everything) that remind me more of a winter in Europe if it wasn't for the warmth. Comparing to April, May, June, August, September, November and December, July (this year at least) only seems to be handing out the occasional hour or two of of sunshine every few 'days' (apart from yesterday in Bangkok, which was a surprise 'gleamer' day). Not a month I'd recommend to anyone (weather wise) , at least based on July so far.

Returned after a couple of weeks LOS time.

Few updates if you already not known.

Walking Street.

Two new GoGos (opened in last 4 to 6 months I was told)

Sensations. Baccara style. Nothing special. 1500 BF with 3000 LT and 2000 ST.

SugarBaby. Good line up. Fairly young, warm crowd. 1500 BF with 3000 LT and 2000 ST.

Alcatraz was as usual with good pole dancer.

What's up. Stand up to it name of pure fun. As always, having fun at the bar than pressure to bar fine.

Angle Witch. Shows are good as before. They have a amazon like thai girl who is their best dancer. She is new I think as I haven't seen her last year.

XZone. As always little extreme but very good waitresses and take care of you very much.

BabyDoll. Looks like more of Ladyboy club at least for me. Not much luck.

Baccara. Tried. But still not my cup of tea still.

Not sure if I missed any other good place. If so, please advice. Heading back again in Sept 1st week.

LK Metro area.

Campaign . Boring.

Devils Den. Biggest disappointment of this trip. I would say more of surprise as excitement is not there with girls.

Blizz. OK but can't replace lollipop. Need to find a good BJ place. I would like to get some advice on this area.

LK Renaissance is as good as usual GF hotel.

[QUOTE=Opebo; 1445800]Where are these hot girls? I don't usually do much mongering in Bangkok, although I'm occasionally there on business for a couple of days and usually stay in Nana and go have a look at Patpong.

I never see 'hot girls' anywhere, and the quality I see doesn't really look much different from Pattaya (that is, equally poor in both cases) [/QUOTE]What's a "hot girl"? See anything here you like:

[url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=girls&qpvt=girls&FORM=IGRE#a[/url]

Earlier this year in Asia, BTW, I did perhaps the most smoking hot girl I've ever seen in my life. That includes tens of thousands of sexy babes I've seen in internet porn. Surprisingly, the service & attitude was in step with the looks. And you might be amazed at where I found her & the price.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1445867]A Harold444 by any other name is still a Harold444. You can always tell by the same old tired rant.

As far as the sponsor topic goes I know a woman in Pattaya with a t-shirt shop who is the spitting image of Olive Oil's 50 year old sister. Her number might be a 3. In the 10 years that I've known her she has had at least 5 sponsors and one married her for a few years before he woke up. Think about it. She's old, far from pretty, does not even work bar but is very much in the game. So what do you suppose the lovelies, even the 6's and 7's can pull off?[/QUOTE]I know Rainbow 4 girl who doesn't work because of sponsorship. Quite a pretty girl, good earner. I would think guy has to be paying at least $2500 a month, and this has been going on for at least 4 years. That's over $120,000, and I have to believe my estimate is on the low side. Her friends that I know are quite the low earners whom I'm trying to get more intelligence from. What is the set-up, all the nitty gritty details.

Sponsorship is just something you can't see. You need inside info. From those in the know. I haven't a clue what percentage of them have sponsor. I just can't think its too many. Are there that many idiots out there?

[QUOTE=Opebo;1445800]What interrogation? I've never stayed in a hotel where they asked the girl [i]any[/i] questions whatsoever, and in many of hotels they don't even ask to see or keep the ID card. I admit I only stay at hotels in the 500-1000 baht range.[/QUOTE]Well, your hotel price range will not give you this experience, that much is certain. But just so you know for future reference, every business-class hotel is concerned about theft, and also about the under-age / false I'd problem. That's why the 3, 000 baht range hotel desk people care. Also, business people who stay at hotels in this price range have more stuff to steal, and making sure the I'd is real deters the amateur thief. And, the more adventurous scam artists out there.

Of course, using a short-time hotel makes a lot of sense, I agree with you. But, when push comes to shove, I'd rather have my own room, and amenities. I have no problem with Soi Six, but for an overnight I want nice digs.

- Gunga

[quote=gunga din;1446063]that's why the 3, 000 baht range hotel desk people care.[/quote]aha, kinda interesting theory.

unfortunately in all my stays in mid- and high-level hotels i never ever experienced something like an interview for the girl i brought with me. they always took the id of the girl, checked it and wished us a good night. actually i usually stay away from very young girls, so i don't have to worry about **** girls.

some hotels call you and asked if everything is ok, when your guest want to leave the hotel again (happened to me at dusit d2 in pattaya) , but that's all

[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1446063]...every business-class hotel is concerned about theft, and also about the under-age / false I'd problem. That's why the 3, 000 baht range hotel desk people care. Also, business people who stay at hotels in this price range have more stuff to steal, and making sure the I'd is real deters the amateur thief. And, the more adventurous scam artists out there.

Of course, using a short-time hotel makes a lot of sense, I agree with you. I have no problem with Soi Six, but for an overnight I want nice digs.[/QUOTE]

Seems like it aught to be the guest's decision regarding the theft risk. Sounds like a very undesirable class of hotel.

Also regarding short time hotels, there's no need to go to Soi Six and take one of those - you can take any girl from any venue to one of the many independent short time hotels around the Pattaya area, 100-300 baht short time typically. I've never gone long-time with a sex-worker in my life.

[quote=zauberfee; 1446071]aha, kinda interesting theory.

unfortunately in all my stays in mid- and high-level hotels i never ever experienced something like an interview for the girl i brought with me. they always took the i'd of the girl, checked it and wished us a good night. actually i usually stay away from very young girls, so i don't have to worry about **** girls.

some hotels call you and asked if everything is ok, when your guest want to leave the hotel again (happened to me at dusit d2 in pattaya) , but that's all[/quote]
even if it is high end hotel we talk about like kempinski, hyatt, centre point t21, swissotel, lebua, novotel platinum etc etc it is all a matter if i bring my girls to the reception. most of the times i just meet them lets say in the lobby and we just head for the room without going by the receptionarea. in places like this i only cater the none p4p market as in regular normal girls. but i can not say the hotelstaff are pushy in knowing who my guest are(and they dont know if it is a prostitute or a normal girl except from these girl are very well behaved, dressed and looks very "good, as in nice and kind). i can actually not remember it has happened except for one time in swissotel/beijing(but maby memory serves me wrongly now).. but when they leave without me i often get a call from security "your guest is leaving - everything ok?". how the fuck do they know where she comes from? i guess surveilance takes place even if we like it or not, hehe..
i am more used to girls beeing asked for id in more mid-ranged options(like grand president in suk soi 11 and in pattis lk empress). atleast in the beginning they asked all my girls for id. after they started to know my face around there they stop asking as i trust my own judgment(and mostly it is fine).. ascott makati same - and here i bring alot of girls both p4p and normal. receptionist just saying "hi" when walking past the reception and no id required but everytime a girl leave - "your guest is leaving - everything ok?" hehe....