Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1611996]At 1000 for 24 hours there is no doubt that she likes being with you a lot. In fact, if you had a buddy who would pay her that much she probably would like being with him a lot too![/QUOTE]OK! Are you indicating that 1000 for 24 hours is just a normal price? That's awesome. But it isn't what I heard from the agencies other than Felinas. So, yes, it is the felinas 6 hour price x 4. Starcris quoted me over 900 for an extended 10 hours pernoite (they just multiply their 180 for 2 hours times 3). With the 300 per hour the freelancers quote, I can't quite imagine them all agreeing to a 1000 for 24 hours. But it's worth a shot next time. I quite liked the experience of being picked up from the airport. It had such a personal touch. And she was there right on time.

We ended up trying as an item, but it was not to be. She was cute though. I'd say a 7 by face and an awesome butt a sharp waist (despite that "soft" belly) and nice big soft tits. Lovely, lovely, I am still smiling. I got my kind of thing. She told me she was scared about me at first, because I said I didn't want her to fuzz with regulations when we were together. She had just been for a month at an MP. This gave me the idea, if I'd ever be dry to go to the MPs and chat up one of the girls for extended date.

Here is how it works, so you know. At the MP, the girls may actually be a bit new and less used. Because its not so overtly just sex and they have very regular business hours, like Mo. Fr 9 to 5 type of thing. They earn about 150 per day in these places. That may be before extras charged directly for various add-on services over the standard massages. I have never actually been to one of these MPs contracting those services, so I dunno. Just know her version. So, 1000 for those girls is like one week's earning before any extras. That's why I would do it that way: go for massage, the simplest one, and just chat and test the chemistry, then ask her out on a date. It's more direct and easier than a club, and you know they are basically up to it.

The long time date has the advantage for them to be more relaxed, not so much work, and if she kind of likes you, which is key, its more fun for both. I recommend this approach.

I have tried to organize my airport pick-up with phone calls from the US and it was very difficult. The only way I had was through online communication, and unfortunately most working girls don't do that. It's actually stupid IMO. The good thing about a dating site is she can see your picture too and this gives some advantage that she is less likely to end up finding you strange looking or repulsive. I have had that with several agency girls. Before the payment they are all cool and once you paid and want to start with cuddling and making out they go "uh, you're kind of different".

Oh, I can relate one of those stories that had a decent ending. Felinas girl (250/6 h, who is also a freelancer for 250/ h) comes in and I talk to her to make sure she will be fun, and then I paid. When she came back (they hand the money to the driver) I was starting to get lovey and she went "que foi" (I hate it when they say it) and it was like an instant bubble burst. I also found her disappointing compared to my idea from the picture and she just had churrasco with garlic, so I was actually turned off too. Then I asked her: "hey, you don't want to be here, you want to stop?" and she said yes, and said the driver was waiting anyway. It was a money back thing. She would hand me the money from the driver and would be off. Now the driver was already gone, so we called the agency to tell them to call him back. And it was some discussion. Fortunately the girl was adamant telling the agency she was sick and couldn't work anyway and no way would stay. I talked with them too. After 15-30 min, the driver did come back. And lo and behold, he handed me ALL my money back, including the part that was considered "taxi" money. I was pleasantly surprised about the honesty and integrity of this business transaction reversal.

I still have an online contact with one super cool working girl, who is supposed to give awesome service. Not sure if I will take it, because I also have 2 dates still which I take more seriously, and my girl from the airport also still wants me. So, I am feeling very good right now that I may not need the paid hourly service. However, 2 days ago I thought my dates had flaked and I was more down. I thought about a scheme whereby the girl from first night would have introduced me to some others. But it wasn't necessary this time. However, I am still thinking of doing something like that. You know, a domestic helper with optional extras. Once you know what hard working men earn here, I feel not guilty at all about offering a girl such a position. And with the proper introduction it might work sweetly.

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1615425]I enjoyed looking at the pamphlet -- I found it funny the way the termas were described! Nice flowery terms, haha! A first-time visitor to Rio might be a confused by all the "spa-talk" and assume that they are legitimate spas! The sex part of it is so strongly downplayed.

On to more current and accurate descriptions of the termas. In Bubba Boy's guide to Rio, I became interested in Termas 65 for next Monday. I'm only in town for next weekend, plus Monday, but Termas 65 was written about in a way that made it sound like a good place to go on a Monday. I have never been to a termas before, so this would be my first visit to one. I guess I could go to MC on Sunday, too, which would make that my first termas visit. Do you guys have any opinions on T 65? Comparisons / constrasts between T 65 and 4 x 4 and MC?

I have read the recent stuff on Solarium, Centaurus, MC, and 4 x 4, but haven't seen anything about T 65. Any thoughts / opinions?[/QUOTE]Termas 65 is a cool place. It's a lot more chill than 4 x4, but also has a lot fewer girls. The boite is pretty small. It's a rectangle with 1/4 of the room having a more "intimate" area even though it's still part of the same room. The best day of the week for going there, in my experience, has been on Thursdays.

The girls are attractive, with only 1 or 2 stunners. Similar talent to Monte Carlo, maybe a little better than MC. Termas 65 used to have really great talent, but that was probably over 4 years ago.

The prices are high for a Centro terma. It's [NOPARSE]R$360[/NOPARSE] for 40 minutes, [NOPARSE]i.e.[/NOPARSE] , [NOPARSE]R$90[/NOPARSE] for the entrance, [NOPARSE]R$70[/NOPARSE] for the room, and [NOPARSE]R$200[/NOPARSE] for the girl. I'm not sure what the price is for 1 hour, I think it's [NOPARSE]R$450[/NOPARSE]. They increase the price if you pay everything by credit card. However, for example, if you do a 40 minute session and pay [NOPARSE]R$200[/NOPARSE] in cash for the girl and then the rest on the credit card, then there is no change in price.

On Mondays, Tuesdays, and Fridays they have a promotion where [NOPARSE]R$40[/NOPARSE] of the entrance fee goes towards consumption of drinks. I guess those are the slowest days for them, so they need to have that promotion to try to draw more customers in.

Mondays are generally slow for all termas because the girls seem to party on the weekends and don't like to come into work on Mondays even though they don't have to show up until the afternoon. Your best bet would probably be 4 x4 on a Monday just because of the quantity of girls and some decent quality. Otherwise, you're taking a risk of wasting an entrance fee going into an upscale terma where there aren't that many girls or a lot of the girls "call in sick" that day.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1616344]We are talking about two different locations. The Austrian Consulate was a pink house and it was near Garota de Copacabana restaurant. They frequently had fancy balls there. The house I am talking about was near the Marriott. It definitely did not have any signs or markings on the house and it appear unoccupied. (lights were never on, broken windows, etc.).[/QUOTE]
Sorry, my fault.
The ex-Austrian Consulate (next to the Sindicato Do Chope de Copacabana) was demolished in August last year. They will construct a hotel on the spot.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/penultima-casa-da-avenida-atlantica-em-copacabana-posta-venda-por-298-milhoes-4879135[/URL]
Your pictures shows Casa da Pedra, R Santa Clara. It was demolished in October last Year. It was sold for R$32 millions. A hotel will be constructed. The house belonged to a 101 years old woman, Zilda, who died in May 2012.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/economia/imoveis/adeus-ultima-casa-da-avenida-atlantica-10473520[/URL]

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;1616361]OK! Are you indicating that 1000 for 24 hours is just a normal price? That's awesome. But it isn't what I heard from the agencies other than Felinas. So, yes, it is the felinas 6 hour price x 4. Starcris quoted me over 900 for an extended 10 hours pernoite (they just multiply their 180 for 2 hours times 3). With the 300 per hour the freelancers quote, I can't quite imagine them all agreeing to a 1000 for 24 hours. But it's worth a shot next time. I quite liked the experience of being picked up from the airport. It had such a personal touch. And she was there right on time.

We ended up trying as an item, but it was not to be. She was cute though. I'd say a 7 by face and an awesome butt a sharp waist (despite that "soft" belly) and nice big soft tits. Lovely, lovely, I am still smiling. I got my kind of thing. She told me she was scared about me at first, because I said I didn't want her to fuzz with regulations when we were together. She had just been for a month at an MP. This gave me the idea, if I'd ever be dry to go to the MPs and chat up one of the girls for extended date.

Here is how it works, so you know. At the MP, the girls may actually be a bit new and less used. Because its not so overtly just sex and they have very regular business hours, like Mo. Fr 9 to 5 type of thing. They earn about 150 per day in these places. That may be before extras charged directly for various add-on services over the standard massages. I have never actually been to one of these MPs contracting those services, so I dunno. Just know her version. So, 1000 for those girls is like one week's earning before any extras. That's why I would do it that way: go for massage, the simplest one, and just chat and test the chemistry, then ask her out on a date. It's more direct and easier than a club, and you know they are basically up to it.

The long time date has the advantage for them to be more relaxed, not so much work, and if she kind of likes you, which is key, its more fun for both. I recommend this approach.

I have tried to organize my airport pick-up with phone calls from the US and it was very difficult. The only way I had was through online communication, and unfortunately most working girls don't do that. It's actually stupid IMO. The good thing about a dating site is she can see your picture too and this gives some advantage that she is less likely to end up finding you strange looking or repulsive. I have had that with several agency girls. Before the payment they are all cool and once you paid and want to start with cuddling and making out they go "uh, you're kind of different".

Oh, I can relate one of those stories that had a decent ending. Felinas girl (250/6 h, who is also a freelancer for 250/ h) comes in and I talk to her to make sure she will be fun, and then I paid. When she came back (they hand the money to the driver) I was starting to get lovey and she went "que foi" (I hate it when they say it) and it was like an instant bubble burst. I also found her disappointing compared to my idea from the picture and she just had churrasco with garlic, so I was actually turned off too. Then I asked her: "hey, you don't want to be here, you want to stop?" and she said yes, and said the driver was waiting anyway. It was a money back thing. She would hand me the money from the driver and would be off. Now the driver was already gone, so we called the agency to tell them to call him back. And it was some discussion. Fortunately the girl was adamant telling the agency she was sick and couldn't work anyway and no way would stay. I talked with them too. After 15-30 min, the driver did come back. And lo and behold, he handed me ALL my money back, including the part that was considered "taxi" money. I was pleasantly surprised about the honesty and integrity of this business transaction reversal.

I still have an online contact with one super cool working girl, who is supposed to give awesome service. Not sure if I will take it, because I also have 2 dates still which I take more seriously, and my girl from the airport also still wants me. So, I am feeling very good right now that I may not need the paid hourly service. However, 2 days ago I thought my dates had flaked and I was more down. I thought about a scheme whereby the girl from first night would have introduced me to some others. But it wasn't necessary this time. However, I am still thinking of doing something like that. You know, a domestic helper with optional extras. Once you know what hard working men earn here, I feel not guilty at all about offering a girl such a position. And with the proper introduction it might work sweetly.[/QUOTE]He is being sarcastic man! Only a desperate gringo would pay an mp girl 1000 Reais a night.

The terms girls will try that but take it from me that the actual reality is that if they really like you, they will sleep over for free and you just pay food and maybe a cab.

If you go and hit the same chick 2/3 times in a row in a Terma or privee and she wants to link you outside-tell her you'll also come back to terms for her (do it once) just to let her know you'll still put some change in her pocket. I have dated 2/3 terms girls on every one of my 7 visits in Rio and I got some of them who are just fuck buddies now when I come. I usually go hard if I like someone there and do them 2/3 times and then they come over no problem. Beach, club whatever. Don't go making 1000 normal. Believe me. Abracos F.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1616689]He is being sarcastic man! Only a desperate gringo would pay an mp girl 1000 Reais a night.

The terms girls will try that but take it from me that the actual reality is that if they really like you, they will sleep over for free and you just pay food and maybe a cab.
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[/QUOTE]Man, I must be doing something wrong because none of these termas girls want to sleep over for free with me after I see them once or twice at their workplace! LOL. Oh well, I'll just blame it on logistics. They don't live anywhere near Zona Sul so why should they bother coming over.

[quote=aznsafado;1616922]man, i must be doing something wrong because none of these termas girls want to sleep over for free with me after i see them once or twice at their workplace! lol. oh well, i'll just blame it on logistics. they don't live anywhere near zona sul so why should they bother coming over.[/quote]all the terms girls who do come over live far into zona norte or niteroi. geography is irrelevant.

think about this: most terma girls's social life is in the termas apart from a few club nights between looking after their kids (abortion is illegal in brazil except [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]) -so if they meet someone cool at work, the lines get blurred-believe me.

i have also had some like you've encountered -superstar ones where i've laughed off paying them outside-2/3 months later they'll email, i say i'm coming back and they can come stay over the hotel for 3 nights but no money-strictly mini-vaca. it works.

[quote=fuckafmeddig;1616995]all the terms girls who do come over live far into zona norte or niteroi. geography is irrelevant.

think about this: most terma girls's social life is in the termas apart from a few club nights between looking after their kids (abortion is illegal in brazil except [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]) -so if they meet someone cool at work, the lines get blurred-believe me.

i have also had some like you've encountered -superstar ones where i've laughed off paying them outside-2/3 months later they'll email, i say i'm coming back and they can come stay over the hotel for 3 nights but no money-strictly mini-vaca. it works.[/quote]or maybe you're just an easy prey and a bit green-or maybe you need to put in more effort-more boom boom pow! kkk.

[quote=fuckafmeddig;1616995]think about this: most terma girls's social life is in the termas apart from a few club nights between looking after their kids (abortion is illegal in brazil except [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]) -so if they meet someone cool at work, the lines get blurred-believe me.[/quote]
pretty woman, walking down the street
pretty woman, the kind i like to meet
pretty woman
i don't believe you, you're not the truth
no one could look as good as you
:d

The group Observatory of Prostitution just released a report about the (negative) impact the World Cup had on prostitution in Rio. Here's the English version:

[URL]https://observatoriodaprostituicao.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/observatory-of-prostitution_world-cup-preliminary-report_20140903.pdf[/URL]

Interesting read. In short, the World Cup was a bust for the garotas. The places in Centro and Vila Mimosa suffered due to holidays / closings, and the girls in Zona Sul faced extra competition from newcomers and "Cheap Charlie" clients from Latin America, aka "Latin Gringos. ".

Extra credit to anyone who can name all the Centro establishments whose doors are pictured on page 8 (Figure 3).

[QUOTE=Novio;1617664]Extra credit to anyone who can name all the Centro establishments whose doors are pictured on page 8 (Figure 3).[/QUOTE]
I start with my guess:
1: Rua Uruguaiana 24
3: Praça Olavo Bilac 13
4: Rua da Alfândega 119
6: Rua Alcântara Machado 46

ChristopherD, help us!

Hi everyone!

These 'houses' mentioned below have some cool girls but they are dirty places. I don't recommend them. I live here and I can bring you some nice options. I come back later!

I am from Rio and I can guide you to happiness here! Nice to meet you.

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv]
I should comment a bit as a newbie. I have read the posts, and they are mostly from highly experienced mongers. To most experienced mongers who read these boards, it is probably just another day at the office. No big deal. But I should point out, that when a newbie chances across these boards, it is absolutely shocking (at first). It is hard to believe that certain people have such a "commitment" to the hobby! I am not judging at all, but please realize that it is quite astonishing for someone new to come across all this stuff! The most shocking thing is to come across this type of stuff by Patmar Beleza and Ibn Buttita, on page 106 of this Rio reports forum, but I do realize it is just part of getting used to this very special culture here! I just can not believe the strong level of commitment that I read about on pages 106 and 107, especially by Ibn Buttita. It just seemed like he put so much effort into pre-trip research and post-trip writing, and, of course, the extreme effort he put in during the trip itself, that I was just blown away! I do hope that I can achieve that level of commitment in the future, but I believe those who do so are very rare and special![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1615571]Well, now this is a disappointing report. I mean, what exactly do we mean by "prices getting out of hand"? Is 400 reias a lot of money? About $175 USD, yes? Is that a lot? I don't think so. Come on now. Pay them their fucking money, and write a fucking report. $175 USD is not a lot of money. Get a clue.[/QUOTE]I hope you have a good visit. I'm not sure which reports you found "shocking" as page numbers vary according to your browser and forum settings (easiest way to reply to a post or mention it is maybe either click on "quote" or use the post number, displayed in the header of that post after the hash sign. (Probably as a newbie you could getahead faster by not swearing at people BTW).

There is massive choice in Rio. And someone is quite entitled to talk about prices getting out of hand when the context is Rio, or Brazil generally. That there is such poor vfm in the States is not a comparion, just a result of government attitudes there. If you like mongering, then it can be a fairly normal part of your life here. You also learn to switch off the emotion / testosterone part of the brain and simply note the factual details on sessions, for oneself or to help others.

I treat the mongering much like decent food. I don't expect to plan my day or my holiday around that and nothing else, but I do like it to be "on tap" as and when required. That is not hard in Rio, and higher prices generally reflect the quality of the establishment rather than that of the girl. My philosophy is that I don't spend more than I am going to notice. That, to me, would be obsessive: I expect paid sex to be a bit like a groceries delivery: at the back door and without too much fuss or self-congratulations or tips on behalf of the delivery person. For me, all the high end termas are overpriced (there are cheaper options) but worth at least a look for their novelty value, same as the new Maracana. Brazil has its own style and it is worth checking our. Enjoy your adventures. We look forward to hearing about them.

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv]
I should comment a bit as a newbie. I have read the posts, and they are mostly from highly experienced mongers. To most experienced mongers who read these boards, it is probably just another day at the office. No big deal. But I should point out, that when a newbie chances across these boards, it is absolutely shocking (at first). It is hard to believe that certain people have such a "commitment" to the hobby! I am not judging at all, but please realize that it is quite astonishing for someone new to come across all this stuff! The most shocking thing is to come across this type of stuff by Patmar Beleza and Ibn Buttita, on page 106 of this Rio reports forum, but I do realize it is just part of getting used to this very special culture here! I just can not believe the strong level of commitment that I read about on pages 106 and 107, especially by Ibn Buttita. It just seemed like he put so much effort into pre-trip research and post-trip writing, and, of course, the extreme effort he put in during the trip itself, that I was just blown away! I do hope that I can achieve that level of commitment in the future, but I believe those who do so are very rare and special![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1615571]Well, now this is a disappointing report. I mean, what exactly do we mean by "prices getting out of hand"? Is 400 reias a lot of money? About $175 USD, yes? Is that a lot? I don't think so. Come on now. Pay them their fucking money, and write a fucking report. $175 USD is not a lot of money. Get a clue.[/QUOTE]I hope you have a good visit. I'm not sure which reports you found "shocking" as page numbers vary according to your browser and forum settings (easiest way to reply to a post or mention it is maybe either click on "quote" or use the post number, displayed in the header of that post after the hash sign. (Probably as a newbie you could getahead faster by not swearing at people BTW).

There is massive choice in Rio. And someone is quite entitled to talk about prices getting out of hand when the context is Rio, or Brazil generally. That there is such poor vfm in the States is not a comparion, just a result of government attitudes there. If you like mongering, then it can be a fairly normal part of your life here. You also learn to switch off the emotion / testosterone part of the brain and simply note the factual details on sessions, for oneself or to help others.

I treat the mongering much like decent food. I don't expect to plan my day or my holiday around that and nothing else, but I do like it to be "on tap" as and when required. That is not hard in Rio, and higher prices generally reflect the quality of the establishment rather than that of the girl. My philosophy is that I don't spend more than I am going to notice. That, to me, would be obsessive: I expect paid sex to be a bit like a groceries delivery: at the back door and without too much fuss or self-congratulations or tips on behalf of the delivery person. For me, all the high end termas are overpriced (there are cheaper options, known as privees) but worth at least a look for their novelty value, same as the new Maracana. Brazil has its own style and it is worth checking our. Enjoy your adventures. We look forward to hearing about them.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1616689]He is being sarcastic man! Only a desperate gringo would pay an mp girl 1000 Reais a night.

The terms girls will try that but take it from me that the actual reality is that if they really like you, they will sleep over for free and you just pay food and maybe a cab.

If you go and hit the same chick 2/3 times in a row in a Terma or privee and she wants to link you outside-tell her you'll also come back to terms for her (do it once) ...[/QUOTE]I have no doubt that you can do that. But when you do that, you can basically also just hook up with a semi-pro or GF. I mean, look at the effort you're putting into it. You go several times to a Terma, there is always hit or miss, so be honest, you end up paying 1000 and go 4 times before you get your free date. When I come to Rio, I stay over 2-4 nights then move on. I want the luxury to be picked up at the airport, more or less blind date, get the GFE treatment as if I meet a long lost lover, snuggle and play for 24 hours, hopefully with emotions, then say good bye with a big smile and may be even a tear. Then I am on my merry way. This is what I want. And I do not know how else to get this so easily. I don't want to bother with Termas and the mechanical rushed 30 min service or whatnot. Its just no my thing.

Give me another way to get that and I am all ears. Next time that girl asks me for help, I will actually ask her for help arranging me another date. The biggest problem is to get a chance to talk with the girls from overseas before making the deal. This is why that girl on the dating site was a gift from heaven, she showed up just couple of week before my trip, and I found her when everything I tried with calling the freelancers failed. So, I am happy, and don't think 1000 is a lot of money if you consider how much time I have saved to get exactly what I wanted.

Man,

I cannot wait until after the olympics when the Brazil Economy Tanks and these termas prices will be cheaper. Anybody thinks they will open a place like help once the economy tanks?