Monterrey

May I kindly ask what the hell is this: "My angel plays an innocent but emotionally painful game with me, devouring me for her own gratification in the moment, never really intending to hurt me, she not even realizing the extent of the damage she inflicts upon me emotionally, pain resulting from the intensity of her affections, and the sudden withdrawal so harshly imposed by our geography apart."

Do you read what you write?
This is plain evidence that the girls, not "girl".... girls, have YOU under control, not the other way around.

You should care less what they do to you.
You should care less what they think of you.
They should care what you can do to them.
They should care what you think of them.

You need to stop wanting them and them knowing that.
That is your weakness.
And that opening has been exploited by the girls fully.


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]I was supposed to come down to Monterrey soon, but I have not even purchased my plane tickets, realizing that for each day I see "her," I will suffer thirty days of pure hell afterward, being taunted over the bliss I experienced for one or two days, and being made acutely aware of her absence the rest of the month, missing her attentions like no other for the thirty days I am isolated back in the US.

My angel plays an innocent but emotionally painful game with me, devouring me for her own gratification in the moment, never really intending to hurt me, she not even realizing the extent of the damage she inflicts upon me emotionally, pain resulting from the intensity of her affections, and the sudden withdrawal so harshly imposed by our geography apart.

Some of the girls play the game with malice, some with purely financial motivations, some for fun...She plays the game with other motivations in mind I believe, but oblivious to the consequences she inflicts on me resulting from the intensity of her affections, made with love and sincerity, but the consequences of which she is totally oblivious to.

I can tolerate, and even enjoy, the girls that knowingly play their routine games with me. It's the ones, like my Angel, that are sincere in their affections. Their affections are like endless torture that follows me back to the US each time I visit Monterrey.

You are right...I am not the Cabron. Perhaps this "softy" should just stay here in the vast wasteland to work on casting off this monkey on his back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amigomio]May I kindly ask...[/QUOTE]

Yes, of course, you may kindly ask...:-))) But, you are wrong in your assessment of me.

My scenario with Angel Girl is like someone pulled back the curtain on the wizard of Oz. I had such a romantic and legitimized hybrid GFE thing going with her. It was, and could possibly still be. But, the emotional torture...You do not realize the extent of my sacrifice in bringing about this kind of scenario...the emotional cost to me is tremendous.

ONE girl has my heart, Angel Girl, that's IT! I could NOT CARE LESS about the rest of them, period. One girl holds the key to what motivates me, not any of the rest of them. The rest of them have NO influence on me whatsoever. Watch how quickly I return for the "REST OF THEM." How much power do you think the rest of them possess if I choose to remain here in the States?

But, there are other alternatives...

I contemplate the use of that free voucher airline ticket from Continental...$500 bucks to be used to go anywhere I choose...and, time is running out for Monterrey.

We are still talking about a paying customer and a sex provider relationship, right?

To tell you the truth, I wanted to say a hooker but I thought that would be rude. But come on. Why fool ourselves? Yes, They are cute little hookers. Our regular girls are cute little hookers. And we are the paying customers.

This is whom we are talking about, right?


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]

ONE girl has my heart, Angel Girl, that's IT! I could NOT CARE LESS about the rest of them, period. One girl holds the key to what motivates me, not any of the rest of them. The rest of them have NO influence on me whatsoever. Watch how quickly I return for the "REST OF THEM." How much power do you think the rest of them possess if I choose to remain here in the States?

But, there are other alternatives...

I contemplate the use of that free voucher airline ticket from Continental...$500 bucks to be used to go anywhere I choose...and, time is running out for Monterrey.[/QUOTE]

Unspongebob mentioned the Maxi forte pills some posts ago, the generic version of Viagra being sold by the generic drugstores of the downtown area.

I gave them a try, bought a bottle of 4 pills a couple of weeks ago.
Cost,, 180 pesos, half the cost of the same amount of blue pills.
For starters, they come in a bottle several sizes to large for just 4 pills.
The pills are yellow, larger than the 50 mg Viagra dose but not big enough to choke on them.
I defintly liked the price and also I liked cause they are easy to cut (with a pill cutter), much more than Viagra, which I always tended to split them in to damn irregular shapes of different sizes.

I noticed that the yellow formula hits you faster than the blue one.
Under subjective consideration, Tweety Bird pills seem to be a tiny less time efective than the Smurf pill counterparts.
Not much... I don't know.
You know, it depends on what you have eaten, etc.

Strength.... same.
No complaint on that.

Would buy them again over Viagra... yes.

An interesting, but relevant piece of history...

Some might think that the word hooker comes from the idea that they are "hooking" their clients, etc...But, the original origins of the use of the word actually were popularized in association with Maj. Gen. Joseph "Fighting Joe" Hooker (1814-79) during the US civil war.

Popular stories attribute the word hooker to the general Hooker in several different ways; sometimes it is said that his men were especially desirous of prostitutes when on leave, and sometimes one hears that Hooker actually let his men keep prostitutes in the barracks.

Some historians have suggested that hooker was, if not coined, at least popularized during the Civil War, and that our general was indeed the cause of this popularization.

The true origin of hooker seems to be the earlier verb hook meaning 'to entice; swindle', and the agent suffix -er, with hooker thus meaning literally 'a person that entices; a swindler'.

I can say that my Angel does not, not in any way, swindle me. She delivers sincerely felt love and affection to me. Sometimes I pay her, sometimes I do not. In our circumstance, therefore, that is not a hooker. Do you feel that your P girl swindles you, Wasted?...of course not. To us, they are not hookers, they are amigovias. We pay them, sometimes, just as we pay for everything else in this world, for time and effort. The girls simply can not afford, financially, to spend their time with us otherwise. I have contemplated this long and hard, and I've concluded that just because we pay them, it does not mean they don't want to be there, nor does it mean that we are nothing more to them than income. I simply do not believe that. My angel, and a select few others, have dispelled that theory so often that it is simply no longer a doubt in my mind.

But, the financial demands that are a part of everyday life do not go away just because there is sincere love, friendship, affection, and attachment. Consider this, would your wife stay with you if you threw her out on the sidewalk, paid for nothing, and if you acted toward her as though she were manipulating you, in it only for the money and security of your nest? Of course not.

Certainly, one should not compare our relationships with our girls with the commitment of our wives. But, we should also not unfairly categorize our best girls, ones that demonstrate their own brand of commitment to us, as merely hookers, there only because of the money. That is not accurate either. Our girls are somewhere between the crack***** hooker and our wives, in varying degrees, according to their own feelings and attachments to us. My best girls are along the spectrum, in varying degrees, some closer to wifey, some further away from wifey, but my Angel Girl is much closer to a positioning nearer my wife than a crack***** hooker, certainly.

My relationship with Angel Girl is complicated. I realize that I can expect no more of her, and I am really comforted by the knowledge that she is there for me, there for me with her sincerity of affection. Simply put, to patronize a typical hooker in place of her would be a total and complete disappointment. Therefore, in my mind, she is something much more than a hooker, and I also know that in her mind, I am something much more than a client. That is pretty special, and it comforts us both, knowing there is legitimate caring for each other, she more than a hooker, I more than a client, but even something more than just friends.

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]We are still talking about a paying customer and a sex provider relationship, right?

To tell you the truth, I wanted to say a hooker but I thought that would be rude. But come on. Why fool ourselves? Yes, They are cute little hookers. Our regular girls are cute little hookers. And we are the paying customers.

This is whom we are talking about, right?[/QUOTE]

I noticed that they are not seemingly quite as consistent in the way they work. Did you find that to be true as well, Carlos? As you indicated, there seems to be either a delay, or even an inconsistent potency issue with them on occasion.

I agree that they're easier to cut, and I notice too that they're pretty mild, in the sense that they do not cause the terrible side effects of the 100mg Viagra. Even when you cut the 100mg Viagra into pieces, you will still get some really uncomfortable sinus and headache issues, and even some heartburn.

Carlos recommended that I try cutting the 50mg tablets into halves, and that does work quite well to reduce the side effects, almost no sinus or headache issues, no heartburn. And, I think that possibly the little yellow pills might even produce less than the side effects of the 50mg Viagra pill. But, sometimes, the yellow pills seem just slightly less effective in comparison to Viagra. I also notice that Cialis is slightly less effective for me than Viagra as well.

My only apprehension at taking the yellow pill is whether they're manufacturer is as consistent as Pfizer in their formulation mix, relative to consistent performance. Does anybody know where the yellow pills are manufactured? I guess that is always somewhat of a concern. With Viagra, I am little more confident they are safe, and even though the yellow pills are cheaper, I find myself still wanting to use the 50mg Viagra if given the choice.

Viagra just seems a little more reliably consistent in performance for me based on my early, and still inconclusive, testing.

[QUOTE=Amigomio]Unspongebob mentioned the Maxi forte pills some posts ago, the generic version of Viagra being sold by the generic drugstores of the downtown area.

I gave them a try, bought a bottle of 4 pills a couple of weeks ago.
Cost,, 180 pesos, half the cost of the same amount of blue pills.
For starters, they come in a bottle several sizes to large for just 4 pills.
The pills are yellow, larger than the 50 mg Viagra dose but not big enough to choke on them.
I defintly liked the price and also I liked cause they are easy to cut (with a pill cutter), much more than Viagra, which I always tended to split them in to damn irregular shapes of different sizes.

I noticed that the yellow formula hits you faster than the blue one.
Under subjective consideration, Tweety Bird pills seem to be a tiny less time efective than the Smurf pill counterparts.
Not much... I don't know.
You know, it depends on what you have eaten, etc.

Strength.... same.
No complaint on that.

Would buy them again over Viagra... yes.[/QUOTE]

The key word here is "slightly".

The difference is noticable, but at the same time am sure you take them after eating something.
Depending on what you eat, makes that difference.

Iam satisfied with the Tweety Bird pills... specially pricewise.

PS: the correct name of the pills is "Maxifort"



[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]I noticed that they are not seemingly quite as consistent in the way they work. Did you find that to be true as well, Carlos? As you indicated, there seems to be either a delay, or even an inconsistent potency issue with them on occasion.

I agree that they're easier to cut, and I notice too that they're pretty mild, in the sense that they do not cause the terrible side effects of the 100mg Viagra. Even when you cut the 100mg Viagra into pieces, you will still get some really uncomfortable sinus and headache issues, and even some heartburn.

Carlos recommended that I try cutting the 50mg tablets into halves, and that does work quite well to reduce the side effects, almost no sinus or headache issues, no heartburn. And, I think that possibly the little yellow pills might even produce less than the side effects of the 50mg Viagra pill. But, sometimes, the yellow pills seem just slightly less effective in comparison to Viagra. I also notice that Cialis is slightly less effective for me than Viagra as well.

My only apprehension at taking the yellow pill is whether they're manufacturer is as consistent as Pfizer in their formulation mix, relative to consistent performance. Does anybody know where the yellow pills are manufactured? I guess that is always somewhat of a concern. With Viagra, I am little more confident they are safe, and even though the yellow pills are cheaper, I find myself still wanting to use the 50mg Viagra if given the choice.

Viagra just seems a little more reliably consistent in performance for me based on my early, and still inconclusive, testing.[/QUOTE]

" Some might think that the word hooker comes from the idea that they are "hooking" their clients, etc...But, the original origins of the use of the word actually were popularized in association with Maj. Gen. Joseph "Fighting Joe" Hooker (1814-79) during the US civil war "

Bob - That's just urban legend . . . American urban legend. The term HOOKER was used 20-30 years at least before the US Civil War, both in England and the US.

Maybe it became more popular here in the US due to his name, but it existed long before.


From WiKi . . .

" Despite Hooker's reputation as a hard-drinking ladies' man, there is no basis for the popular legend that the slang term for prostitutes is derived from his last name because of parties and a lack of military discipline at his headquarters. Some versions of the legend claim that the band of prostitutes that followed his division were derisively referred to as "General Hooker's Army" or "Hooker's Brigade. Another version claims that Hooker used to keep a band of "soiled doves" in camp, and whenever a stranger to the camp asked a soldier about the identity of these women, he was told "They're Hooker's."[citation needed] However, the term "hooker" was used in print as early as 1845, years before Hooker was a public figure. The prevalence of the Hooker legend may have been at least partly responsible for the popularity of the term. "

What first put me on to this was...I was in a hotel on business watching TV Monday night, and on comes a documentary about prostitution and the Civil War. Imagine, a program solely about that subject. Imagine that...what will they think of next?

Of course, they related the stories of General Hooker, and they also made claims that the term originated with him. Historically, I also knew that was not the case as I am a bit of a history buff myself.

You are quite correct that the term was not coined through the exploits of General Hooker, but it is believed that the use of the term in the US was popularized during the Civil War due to Hooker's notoriety, and the scandalous sensationalism of the time.

You ARE paying attention... :-)

[QUOTE=Prokofiev] Bob - That's just urban legend . . . American urban legend. The term HOOKER was used 20-30 years at least before the US Civil War, both in England and the US.[/QUOTE]

OK Bob. Here are the facts:

1-My Sweet P is a hooker.
2-My Lady J is a hooker.
3-My Crunchy S is a crunchy hooker.
4-My Slutty S is a slutty hooker.
5-My non-working 18 y/o girl (NON WORKING) is a non-working hooker.
6-My 18 y/o Brenda from a non SC bar is a damn hot hot hooker.
7-My Monterrey 'dream come true' hottest girl in Monterrey is a hooker.
8-Every single girl that works in the club and gets paid for sex is a hooker.

Sweet P stands with her hand on her hip and puts out her other hand "Wasted, dame dinero."

I have never, at any time, no way, no how, ever taken any of these girls back to my room and not pay them. I have never taken any upstairs and not pay them. Well, except for this one time when Carlos' previous hot D girl gave me my birthday gift.

"Do you feel that your P girl swindles you, Wasted?..." Of course she does. I dare you not pay G girl 2 or 3 consecutive trips and make it clear that you have intentions of paying. Tell me how long she will be 'your' G girl.

Yes Bob, they are only there for the money. Maybe better company and more fun than other clients. But if I do not pay at the end of the day, I only expect to see her again when she returns to collect.

And I will never categories those girls as our wives. Not even close. I joke, even though everyone knows that Sweet P is my Monterrey wife number 1, about her being my wife. But this last trip I told her that her fake blond girlfriend is my number 2 Monterrey wife. So, if she gets angry with me again, I will instantly replace her with her close girlfriend.

When I was labeling each of the girls, I labeled Sweet P as my number 1 wife and my Crunchy S as my ****. She asked me if she was my number 1 ****.

Come on Bob. Wake up and smell the fish. We can get as close as we can to those girl, that will not change the fact that they are still hookers. We may get used to the idea and start justifying the ends because of the needs, but they are still hookers. We could sincerely care for those girls but that will not change the fact that ..... if we do not pay them, they will be saying "Next ..."

At one point, Sweet P was so relaxed and worry free with me that she excused herself from my table so she can go service a mufo who has been waiting for her. I told that she has 2 options. She can leave but to never come back or if she does not leave to never ever repeat this stupidly sickening mistake again. She could not stop thinking and acting like a hooker. Oh, and she stayed.

What the hell do you call a girl who dances naked on stage with about 75 drunk hoodlums groping her and when she's done, some of those mufos line up waiting to take her upstairs?

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]
I can say that my Angel does not, not in any way, swindle me. She delivers sincerely felt love and affection to me. Sometimes I pay her, sometimes I do not. In our circumstance, therefore, that is not a hooker. Do you feel that your P girl swindles you, Wasted?...of course not. To us, they are not hookers, they are amigovias. We pay them, sometimes, just as we pay for everything else in this world, for time and effort. The girls simply can not afford, financially, to spend their time with us otherwise. I have contemplated this long and hard, and I've concluded that just because we pay them, it does not mean they don't want to be there, nor does it mean that we are nothing more to them than income. I simply do not believe that. My angel, and a select few others, have dispelled that theory so often that it is simply no longer a doubt in my mind.

But, we should also not unfairly categorize our best girls, ones that demonstrate their own brand of commitment to us, as merely hookers, there only because of the money. That is not accurate either. Our girls are somewhere between the crack***** hooker and our wives, in varying degrees, according to their own feelings and attachments to us. My best girls are along the spectrum, in varying degrees, some closer to wifey, some further away from wifey, but my Angel Girl is much closer to a positioning nearer my wife than a crack***** hooker, certainly.
[/QUOTE]

Check out my response in the USB Section...

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]OK Bob. Here are the facts:

1-My Sweet P is a hooker.
2-My Lady J is a hooker.
3-My Crunchy S is a crunchy hooker.
4-My Slutty S is a slutty hooker.
5-My non-working 18 y/o girl (NON WORKING) is a non-working hooker.
6-My 18 y/o Brenda from a non SC bar is a damn hot hot hooker.
7-My Monterrey 'dream come true' hottest girl in Monterrey is a hooker.
8-Every single girl that works in the club and gets paid for sex is a hooker.

Sweet P stands with her hand on her hip and puts out her other hand "Wasted, dame dinero."

I have never, at any time, no way, no how, ever taken any of these girls back to my room and not pay them. I have never taken any upstairs and not pay them. Well, except for this one time when Carlos' previous hot D girl gave me my birthday gift.

"Do you feel that your P girl swindles you, Wasted?..." Of course she does. I dare you not pay G girl 2 or 3 consecutive trips and make it clear that you have intentions of paying. Tell me how long she will be 'your' G girl.

Yes Bob, they are only there for the money. Maybe better company and more fun than other clients. But if I do not pay at the end of the day, I only expect to see her again when she returns to collect.

And I will never categories those girls as our wives. Not even close. I joke, even though everyone knows that Sweet P is my Monterrey wife number 1, about her being my wife. But this last trip I told her that her fake blond girlfriend is my number 2 Monterrey wife. So, if she gets angry with me again, I will instantly replace her with her close girlfriend.

When I was labeling each of the girls, I labeled Sweet P as my number 1 wife and my Crunchy S as my ****. She asked me if she was my number 1 ****.

Come on Bob. Wake up and smell the fish. We can get as close as we can to those girl, that will not change the fact that they are still hookers. We may get used to the idea and start justifying the ends because of the needs, but they are still hookers. We could sincerely care for those girls but that will not change the fact that ..... if we do not pay them, they will be saying "Next ..."

At one point, Sweet P was so relaxed and worry free with me that she excused herself from my table so she can go service a mufo who has been waiting for her. I told that she has 2 options. She can leave but to never come back or if she does not leave to never ever repeat this stupidly sickening mistake again. She could not stop thinking and acting like a hooker. Oh, and she stayed.

What the hell do you call a girl who dances naked on stage with about 75 drunk hoodlums groping her and when she's done, some of those mufos line up waiting to take her upstairs?[/QUOTE]

Does anyone have an opinion of the Crowne Plaza downtown? I doubt it's girl friendly but what about the location and that stuff?

Yep, it ain't girl friendly.
You'd need to have a car to park downstairs and jump directly into the elevator and then your floor.
Security is right there at the doors of the elevators.

Ok, location and stuff.
It's on my Google Map.
The link's on the #7 post on Reports of Distinction .
It's in the hotel district, that places you not walking distance from the clubs but a taxi ride away.
The clubs close to the CP are the Spugna and the Reno, which are rippoffs.
The hotel is good, they have an incredible Sunday lunch buffet.
The Lobby Bar is legendary cause on Fridays and Saturdays you can pick civilian girls there.
But that brings us back to square one... you can't take them to the room.

A much better hotel choice is the Sheraton Ambassador, but am sure you mention the CP cause you have points to cash????




[QUOTE=Doubt98]Does anyone have an opinion of the Crowne Plaza downtown? I doubt it's girl friendly but what about the location and that stuff?[/QUOTE]

Yes I do have points. And the Sunday buffet is incredible? Cool. On the web site they are offering a deal for 5000 points a night. I think that is about 15000 off the normal.

I pulled it up off your map earlier. That map is a stroke of genius! Thanks again for all your work. You've been working on perfecting a map for a while now. I think you've done it.

You are lucky cause am going to start charging for the map!

No really, the Sundy lunch buffete IS incredible.



[QUOTE=Doubt98]Yes I do have points. And the Sunday buffet is incredible? Cool. On the web site they are offering a deal for 5000 points a night. I think that is about 15000 off the normal.

I pulled it up off your map earlier. That map is a stroke of genius! Thanks again for all your work. You've been working on perfecting a map for a while now. I think you've done it.[/QUOTE]