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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1132060]I been to Climax and there were very few girls that were good looking. If you want to hook up with hot girls at after hours club, hit Scratchdog at Winsdor Hotel[/QUOTE]He wanted to know where to find girls after hours. I hate Climax. The smoke disgusts me and I don't operate well in that environment. Scratchdog is apparently another spot, though I've never been there.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1132089]He wanted to know where to find girls after hours. I hate Climax. The smoke disgusts me and I don't operate well in that environment. Scratchdog is apparently another spot, though I've never been there.[/QUOTE]Wow, who whould have thunk that one could find Great looking gals at a place called ScratchDogs. Guess I'll just have to go check it out
[QUOTE=Kablunak;1131851]Opebo do you think that the fact that "you can have a different girl everyday for free via the internet and other usual means." is so nice? Are you sure that the girls are so happy with sex only? Are you sure that some of them don't get hurt when they realize they were just manipulated for sex? You seem to value yourself for seducing women, maybe because your are still young.[/QUOTE]Oh what a terrible injustice you do me sir. It was not I, Opebo, who said those things. It was Bowerboy. I was merely one of his interlocutors on those subjects, and in point of fact a very critical one.
My 'profile' is just the opposite of supermen like Bowerboy. I'm old, unfit, and quite poor.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1132129]My 'profile' is just the opposite of supermen like Bowerboy. I'm old, unfit, and quite poor.[/QUOTE]In Thailand, Looks and Age don't matter. The Girls will fuck you just the same.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1132013]So guys, seems we are not that bad after all and this is not even a question of money, These ladies just want to be serviced the same way their friends are. Thai girls talk and one Thai woman who has been nicely fucked by a Farang will tell all her lady friends (who will all be excited to try).[/QUOTE]You are so right Nic,
Although only an occasional visitor to Thailand I have been lucky enough to be a Thai girls 'first Farrang' on several occasions. I also get (more than) my fair share of 'freebees' from non P4P girls and even a few free ones from Thai escorts who only work in K. L. Singapore, and H. K. But like to enjoy a nice meal, or some drinks with pleasant company when they are relaxing, off duty, back in BKK.
Several girls have told me that generally Europeans are MUCH more considerate lovers than the average Thai guy and confirm that many Thai guys do not enjoy giving oral.
As DATY is something that I, personally, LOVE I am happy to do this for 'ages' which drives many of the girls absolutely WILD!
There appreciation is shown virtually every time by them ensuring that I enjoy myself!
I do not claim to be anything special in the 'bedroom department' I am just an old, but enthusiastic, English guy with, I suppose, an average size dick and rather overweight but I always try to treat the girls well.
I'm now back in UK but on my most recent trip to Thailand in addition to the usual P4P in BKK and Pattaya I managed to enjoy two 'civilians' from Craigslist. Plus one sweet girl that I found working at a street stall with the 'Dr. Fish' and, in Singapore, a young Viet spinner who was visiting for the 1st time.
OK, there is no such thing as an absolute freebee and each of these cost me 'something! ' Either a few drinks, a meal or a little taxi money but the experience on each occasion was absolutely GREAT!
No question of 'You finished yet' or 'Have to go now' from any of them.
So, in my opinion being a European gentleman with the girls pays dividends time and time again.
I can recommend it, a LOT!
Enjoy,
Hotman
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1132177]Several girls have told me that generally Europeans are MUCH more considerate lovers than the average Thai guy and confirm that many Thai guys do not enjoy giving oral.
As DATY is something that I, personally, LOVE I am happy to do this for 'ages' which drives many of the girls absolutely WILD!
There appreciation is shown virtually every time by them ensuring that I enjoy myself! [/QUOTE]There is a downside to this. Because if you give the girls great pleasure (and don't forget that non P4P ladies are completely clueless about most things prostitutes are used to by being with Farangs so often) then they will not let you go easily.
As a Bangkok Resident, and being in the game of non P4P quite a bit now, I totally understand the saying "you pay the P4P girls to leave" because let me tell you, these non P4P are a nightmare.
They want you to call them, sms them, send them emails, messenger chats. It is horrible.
I fucked a young stunner yesterday (Air Force gal) and today got 42 sms from her! How fucking crazy is that? She wants me to go back and see her.
I am starting to wonder if I am not better ditching all these girls and going back to my easy peasy P4P life of massage and bars. Was so much easier.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1132204]There is a downside to this. Because if you give the girls great pleasure (and don't forget that non P4P ladies are completely clueless about most things prostitutes are used to by being with Farangs so often) then they will not let you go easily.
As a Bangkok Resident, and being in the game of non P4P quite a bit now, I totally understand the saying "you pay the P4P girls to leave" because let me tell you, these non P4P are a nightmare.
They want you to call them, sms them, send them emails, messenger chats. It is horrible.
I fucked a young stunner yesterday (Air Force gal) and today got 42 sms from her! How fucking crazy is that? She wants me to go back and see her.
I am starting to wonder if I am not better ditching all these girls and going back to my easy peasy P4P life of massage and bars. Was so much easier.[/QUOTE]This craziness does not surprise me since I learned years ago from reading this site, especially OTH's posts, what to expect from Thai females. Not that the men are any better.
IME such constant repetition of SMS messages is something I sometimes get from P4P girls. Most will let it go if you don't reply within a few attempts, but others will keep sending them unanswered for days even weeks. It quickly gets to the point of just clicking on "delete all" without even reading them.
In these cases, though, I doubt this stalking has anything to do with servicing them, since our sessions are geared the other way. After all I am paying. So no DATY, for example, although I like to kiss and think that I am quite accomplished in that department, even if I say so myself.
BTW re stalking, I told one of my regulars that I had a PI follow her around to see what she was doing. She looked at me with an expression of concern, like I was being serious.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1132204]There is a downside to this. Because if you give the girls great pleasure (and don't forget that non P4P ladies are completely clueless about most things prostitutes are used to by being with Farangs so often) then they will not let you go easily.
As a Bangkok Resident, and being in the game of non P4P quite a bit now, I totally understand the saying "you pay the P4P girls to leave" because let me tell you, these non P4P are a nightmare. [/QUOTE]Hmmmmmm,
Okay I see your point.
You are a resident and may have to put up with the hassles! I am just an occasional visitor so the WORST that I can get is a pile of 'miss you' emails.
I use a Thai SIM card and turn it off when I am not in Thailand. I never use messenger and rarely call the girls when outside Thailand. If I do call I make sure that they can not check the number I call from.
If their 'interest' in me drops off before my next visit then, so be it, I will just have to look for some new freebees for my next trip! (Of course I always mix some P4P in with my freebees.)
OK, I treat them well WHEN I AM WITH THEM but am not looking for any 'long term freebees' so I suppose that it is rather easier for me than for you (as a resident!)
Oh well, sometimes life aint easy (but SOMEONE has to do it!)
Enjoy,
Hotman.
I know for sure these posts of mine will get lost in this thread, but since ISG kind of helped me in Bangkok I know its my duty to post my experiences with thanks.
Because the information on Thailand on this site is very overwhelming, and therefore difficult to come to conclusions on I needed to get outside assistance to figure out what to do in Bangkok, by outside assistance I mean various other websites.
Anywho,
Down to business.
Decided I must do the iconic thai massage, so got one at the 5 star hotel I was staying at. My advice, never get on, thai massages do nothing but hurt the shit out of you. I needed a massage after being massaged. So broken bones and torn muscles I found reviews of some massage palours close to me. 3 really stuck out, and they are the most prominent on this website with threads dedicated to them.
First is Annie massage, secondly is tulip and lastly mango massage. I have a feeling tulips and mango's would have better women, but I wanted to go to what seemed to we a Bangkok institution.
I went to Annies. It is located just off surkumvit soi 2. As you walk down its on the left side of the road. There is a taxi stand right next to it who's drivers keep asking if you want massage. Just say thank you but no.
Get to annies, and walk straight up a flight of stairs. There is a bar down but have no clue what they offer. When I got up stood at the bar and ordered a beer. The woman then shouted somthing over the mic and all the ladies assembled into the 2 'fish bowls'. As I was drinking my beer the mamasan gave me a quick tour of one of the rooms. Satisfied I sat down and drank my beer. When I finished it I chose number 99.
A quick summary of how it works there. You get in, the ladies assemble in the fish bowls, basically behind a glass window. Seated. The window on the left has girls marked with the alphabet and are better looking, the girls in the window on the right are numbered, and are less good looking, but some of them are still quite nice. The lettered girls go at 2500bhat for 2 hours, and the numbered girls go at 1700 bhat for the 2 hours.
From what I have read, the alphabet girls though hotter do not necessarily give a good service, while the numbered girls are suppised to give a really good servicing. And god damn I can attest to that.
Anyway, as I said I chose girl number 99 she was good looking, small tight enough body, and seemed like fun. The alpha girls did not look better or more enthusiactic enough to justify the extra 700bhat.
So I chose the girl and she lead me to the room. Got there to find what seemed to be clean sheets on the bed, and a bathtub, shower and sink. Ok in my opinion though these facilities were good enough, and clean enough I think a renovation would put them high above their competition. Things seemed dated there.
Anyways she undressed me and filled up the bath with soapy warm water and told me to get in. She then stripped herself and fillowed me in. She staryed by soaping ym body and rinsing it off. Then she did a through cleaning of my undercarriage.
Once and she was clean she started rubbing herself against me, very slowly and very sensously. She kissed very passionatly. Then she rinsed the sop of my cock, and I was already rock hard, she started to blow me. Starting slow, and then moving in much deeper, maintaining eye contact and stroking my balls and playing with my ass a bit. This was all amazing. She then got up and did this thing which I can only describe as an ass massage. Basically supporting herself on her hands and feet, she rubbed ber butt cheeks and pussy all over my legs and chest. The first time I've experienced this, and have to say it was out of this world! Seriously out of this world! Her pussy seems to be moist as fuck! With such an amazing view. What an experience! Then she got back to sucking me off till I came.
Rested for a couple of minutes while she stroked my chest with one and and my spent balls with the other. Then got up and she soapped me up and rinsed me off again.
Stepped out of the bath and she dried me off.
I lay down on my stomach and she expertly gave me a massage, paying alot of attention to my ass and balls. Great massage.
Then I turnd around and she massaged my front, again paying attention to my balls. This went on for about 20 min, and I was ready for round 2 she then began her expert blowjob again. Lovely, deep throating me alot. Wonderful!
Then when I was rock hard again, she slipped on a condom.
Now for those of you who have never been to Thailand, I have a suggestion to make. Always carry your own condoms anywhere you go. Now I am not where close to being a well endowed guy. Infact I am rather small. But damn, these thai condoms are fucking ridiculous. When she slipped it on it felt like someone was chocking my cock, it was litereally very very painful! I tried to bear it for a while, while she bounced up and down on my cock, but, the pain was exceeding the pleasure, and luckily I had a condom in my wallet. Slipped on that badboy and was good to go!
The sex was amazing. She was nicely tight, and old enough to have good experience, and young enough to seill be very beautiful from some certain angles. Otherwise she was just pretty.
Sex in cowgirl, then doggy, then mish, and back to cowgirl.
This was such a definitly girlfriend experience, because she would always lean forward and try to kiss me, and not just kiss normally, but really kiss passionately. On the last bit of cowgirl before I came, she leaned forward and again while kissing me got very very enthusiastic about it all, and rode me very very quickly. Now I know these girls are working professionals and all that, and can probably even fake an orgasm better than they can swindle you of your money. But I seriously got the impression that she did have one. Breathing and contracting spasms and flushed face at the end all showed as signs. But then again you never know. After she 'came' she seriously attacked me with the kissing, even more vigorously then before. Lovely!
Then wen on with the up and down motion, and soon I was ready to blow my load. So I grabbed her nice little hips, and pumped her up and down. What a great feeling then I finally came.
We laid there resting a bit while she kissed me some more. Then we got up and went for another shower. Soap and rinse and dry.
I understand that 500 is what is part of the expected fee and not really a tip, so I gave her 1000, 500 for what was due and 500 for spectacular service. She seemed very happy with this.
Kissed me good bye, lead me the way out and I went back to my hotel completely satisfied.
That is a real thai massage.
Look our for part 2.
Stay safe and play safe.
Kkreeac
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1132151]In Thailand, Looks and Age don't matter. The Girls will fuck you just the same.[/QUOTE]While age and looks don't matter, self image does. If one feels they are a poor soul without a dime to their name a the a pitiful life the girls won be interested.
[QUOTE=Mystery77; 1131836]Really. Where are all the hotties?
I mean I'm not paying $120 in one of these 5 star girl establishments in BKK. Where the taxi's punt you for a commission.
Its crazy. When in Bangla road, Patong, Phuket you can meet a bird in good shape for 1000 baht to go with you.
Besides all the expensive overpriced tourist catches.
Where to go for real hotties in BKK around 20-25 age? [/QUOTE]
Price levels are generally related to the [B]concentrated number[/B] of hotties in a venue. If you're willing to spend the time, you can find an occasional 7-9 in a garbage dump (like Pattaya beach road). Some of us enjoy looking.
Some of the roads less traveled (by Farang) in Bangkok are:
Kamphaeng Phet 7 (dark street parallel to Phetchaburi road) from Rachada to Phet Uthai road (near former Siam hotel). Quite a few girls, not old, good looking, heavily pimped. 1500 asking price for Farang ST. 1200 accepted. If I'm to believe a taxi driver, it's 700-1000 for Thais.
Yaowarat area. Occasional amazing lookers on Maitri Chit road (one from Hualamphong to the traffic circle). Price for a ST with a decent looker (a few *amazing* white Chiang Mai girls with long toes) is 600-800 baht. Dogs are 300 or so.
Area east of Sanam Luang (Atsadang Road) and south of Rachadamnoen Klang. Very low end (a slum) , but 300 can get you laid (you can imagine customers are lowest end too). Decent lookers go for 500, but they all have some heavy mileage on them.
Note that these are non-Farang areas, so speaking Thai helps, negotiating may be useful (know the going rate), and service is far below Farang standards (that includes Pattaya beach road, which at 500b for 1-2h remains the best deal in the world).
"Where to go for real hotties in BKK around 20-25 age?"
Siam Paragon or NCP. Same same. Take your pick.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1132151]In Thailand, Looks and Age don't matter. The Girls will fuck you just the same.[/QUOTE]Yes, but poverty repels. [i]"It is fatal to look hungry. It makes people want to kick you." [/i]
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1132280]Price levels are generally related to the [B]concentrated number[/B] Of hotties in a venue. If you're willing to spend the time, you can find an occasional 7-9 in a garbage dump (like Pattaya beach road). Some of us enjoy looking.
Note that these are non-Farang areas, so speaking Thai helps, negotiating may be useful (know the going rate) , and service is far below Farang standards (that includes Pattaya beach road, which at 500b for 1-2h remains the best deal in the world). [/QUOTE]You will very occasionally find a 7/8 Pattaya Bush Babe available at between 2/300. And they do provide a Farang standard service. Looking is half the fun!
[QUOTE=Kkreeac; 1132244]I know for sure these posts of mine will get lost in this thread, but since ISG kind of helped me in Bangkok I know its my duty to post my experiences with thanks.
Because the information on Thailand on this site is very overwhelming, and therefore difficult to come to conclusions on I needed to get outside assistance to figure out what to do in Bangkok, by outside assistance I mean various other websites.
Stay safe and play safe.
Kkreeac[/QUOTE]Great report, no doubt.
Only one comment on the tip.
Annie's prices are full service and there is no need to pay any extra (as your 500) ,
Of course tips are welcome (anyone wishes to get a tip, even top bank managers are running after tips with their huge bonuses) and in tehre we come to your second 500B.
I do not disupute the amount fo tip (enough said here) , but the first 500 of your 1000 to the girl were not necessary.