Jakarta

[QUOTE=TxDaver;2228453]I do enjoy the sauna and the real massage. What are better options for legit massage with extras?.[/QUOTE]Similarly looking for somewhere between the Bangkok Oily / Soapy massage and Hotel Classic / Travel zero massage places. Any suggestions?

Just dropping to say Hi to all especially Bulai69 & others seniors of the thread.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2202283]
Posting photo's of those girls can ruin their lives if the poster is not careful. Remember, most of the girls at Starmoon aren't there because they like sex that much they just want to have it all day. They are there because some recruiter offered to generously lend her money to buy Mum and dad a place to live / mums dialysis / younger sister's school fees / hospital fees etc etc.[/QUOTE]I think it's ok as long as you don't post photos of their faces and post photos you actually took yourself. Especially avoid posting photos that they will have used in their social media accounts with their friends and family. Claiming the photo came from a deskgram account from some other guy (who obviously took it from her social media or whatsapp profile) is no excuse. You should only be posting photos you took yourself or photos from the official pages of the places. Referring to them by their real name is also a no go, but they never give their real names when they work anyway, so if they claim to be named Nanda, that's fine. The best thing is to simply say she is number 88. However, posting an actual photo that you didn't take yourself that they have obviously used in their social media is crossing the line.

[QUOTE=KLGuy;2229111]Just dropping to say Hi to all especially Bulai69 & others seniors of the thread.[/QUOTE]Welcome back, bro! Nice to see you again. It must have been years, because the legendary Bulai69 has stopped posting for many years.

Thanks for the info although I know he still goes to Jakarta. Take care. I only monger in KL now as I can't travel due to my health.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2229678]Welcome back, bro! Nice to see you again. It must have been years, because the legendary Bulai69 has stopped posting for many years.[/QUOTE].

Or maybe a bit longer. From UK, 60-ish. Happy to buy a beer or two for any of the regular posters on this forum. Feel free to PM.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2176091]A few information tidbits that I find troubling. Christina was new to the game and barely over a month under their employment. Already, she was indebted to the company as soon as she started work. Like all profit maximizing corporation with no moral compass, they would squeeze every last pennies or rupiah in this case on these girls. They would charge an exorbitant amount on the dresses they are required to wear. They require that these girls live in their dorm which is conveniently located behind 1001 building, and of course charge them for everything. They would charge them for the hair stylist and makeup work that they have to have daily before work. They would charge them for the mandatory regular doctor inspections. The girls cannot leave the dorm while working there except during their off days. Their workday is a 12-hour shift and they have a daily target of hitting four vouchers. A voucher is an hour session and cost 1. 1 million each. I would ask how often does she meet her target, and she mentioned hardly ever. In fact, that day I was her first client and it was already nighttime. The spa girls would earn only a third of the voucher value which is something like 370 K and will only be disbursed to the after the month is over. No wonder these girls have to depend heavily on tips provided by their clients.[/QUOTE]Do you know if she gets the entire tip if you markthe tip on the sheet they give you and pay it at the end (to the cashier)? Or is it better to give her the tip in cash?

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2231654]Do you know if she gets the entire tip if you markthe tip on the sheet they give you and pay it at the end (to the cashier)? Or is it better to give her the tip in cash?[/QUOTE]If you want her to get the tip, just give it to her directly. If you do not bring along any cash into the room, you can tell her to follow you to the locker room after the service and she will be more than happy to oblige.

I would not trust the company to give the money to her. Even if they do, they would only disburse it at the end of the month or whenever their pay period is. In fact, I have known that some establishments even keep those service fees for themselves that are in your bill. Those fees are meant as tips for these workers.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2231654]Do you know if she gets the entire tip if you markthe tip on the sheet they give you and pay it at the end (to the cashier)? Or is it better to give her the tip in cash?[/QUOTE]You always, always give it to her in cash!

At the heart of Indonesian business culture is the concept of getting something for nothing. Or what we would call "clipping the ticket". Ask any Indonesian housemaid in Singapore or Hong Kong or Indonesian seaman how much of their salary the agent takes and you will likely fall over at the reply. Firstly at the percentage they take but secondly that they would actually sign up to a contract like that. It is pretty much a certainty the house would be salivating at the thought of this "free" money that had been entrusted to them to give to your girl and have a range of "fees" ready to apply to it for their non existent services in getting it to her.

In countries like America or Australia when somebody wants to work hard and make something for themselves, everybody supports them. In Indonesia they just try to get as much of your enterprise for themselves whether it's selling your pussy driving a truck or cleaning somebody's house.

Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?

[QUOTE=TxDaver;2232039]Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?[/QUOTE]No impact.

What time does Classic open? Last 2 times I went, I was told to come back in 2 hours when I arrived around Noon. This was on a Sunday and Monday.

Also, has anyone been to Sagita Spa? After doing some shopping at Plaza Indonesia, I may give it a try. I'd welcome any feedback. I'll post a report and share my experience.

[QUOTE=TxDaver;2232039]Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?[/QUOTE]If anything, there will be more girls coming from Sulawesi in the coming days. Natural disasters like these create massive economic chaos for residents who lose almost everything. The government does little to help and people have to turn to unpalatable ways to survive.

Is there a good bar or restaurant to watch UFC 229? Maybe a place near Plaza Indonesia?

[QUOTE=TxDaver;2232039]Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?[/QUOTE]Right after the big unprecedented 2004 tsunami a fresh batch of extasy hit the Jakarta drug market. The pill was blue-couloured and it was called "Tsunami".