Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1132738]I was happy yesterday because I found a girl on Tagged who was looking for Frendship only. After a few messages, we upgraded to Msn, and after a lot of laughs we opened the Cams. She went wild. Gave me a stip and masturbation show. She said she had never done that before and was really turned on. She is contemplating the idea of calling in Sick today so that I can visit her room.

All she wants is sex. She has no BF, does not want a Farang, she just wants pleasure. [/QUOTE]Funny idea of meaning of "Friendship Only".

[QUOTE=Attention; 1132641]Interesting to read the Annie's report below, as I've just got back to my hotel after a fairly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-poor time there.

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It started with a request for a tip prior to blowing me. Yep, this was made somewhat in jest, but was repeated 4 or 5 times. Tiresome and unnecessary, really put me off. After a minute or so, she said she really wanted sex, so I obliged. A few mins of mish, a few doggy, then during a second session of mish she began to pull a pained face, saying she wanted me to come. WTF? I'm a mere 6 or so inches with a very average girth at best, and I really wasn't even nearly pounding away or anything. [/QUOTE]Its simple. The Annies price is not really "all inclusive" despite what they say. So, no tip, no service. You should have just answered "of course a nice tip" to alleviate her concerns, so that her mind could get back to service.

Girls don't want to have sex for just taxi money.

Its not really so much about the place, its more about the girl and the chemistry.

@nic: to avoid headaches you should be even more honest and tell them that not only is it just NSA sex, but you are having it with multiple girls. You will loose some who just can't accept it but some will be ok with it, and over time you'll get better at convincing them and you'll build a base of several girls who are perfectly fine with it. No more headaches or need for excuses.

[QUOTE=Lex460; 1132910]Going to spend time at this hotel. Does anyone have any experience if it is GF?

Lex[/QUOTE]Its totally girl friendly. I entered with three, even no check of ID. Great rooms especially the balconies are great for whatever you want to do.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1132935]Its simple. The Annies price is not really "all inclusive" despite what they say. So, no tip, no service.[/QUOTE]That's not been my experience at all.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1132970]@nic: to avoid headaches you should be even more honest and tell them that not only is it just NSA sex, but you are having it with multiple girls. You will loose some who just can't accept it but some will be ok with it, and over time you'll get better at convincing them and you'll build a base of several girls who are perfectly fine with it. No more headaches or need for excuses.[/QUOTE]I doubt very many guys who enjoy the "hunt" as they often call it are upfront that they want NSA, let alone that they are doing it or want to do it with many women. Another point as food for thought on this subject that I was just reading is the following comment:

"I want to make a point about women who claim to want NSA sex because in my experience that's a lie too. They may claim to want just a romp in the sack but are really looking to trick a man into a relationship. Sometimes this tactic works, more often it does not, and either way brings on more heartache because it starts with a lie. Now that it's more socially acceptable for women to admit to being horny, NSA sex appears to be something younger women feel ok with asking for but I'm still convinced that it's just another (dishonest) avenue to the same goal. If there is an emotional connection and the sex is good, relationship is still the desired outcome. The exception would be married and bored or married and dissatified but even that will lead to a relationship. A different kind of relationship with different rules but a relationship just the same. I do not believe that women are (as a rule) able to overcome or ignore their most basic nature any more than a man is."

[quote=attention; 1132641]interesting to read the annie's report below, as i've just got back to my hotel after a fairly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-poor time there.

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i'll go back to annie's again because it has a great reputation, was well-organised, up-front and clean. i probably picked a dud and am willing to try again, but i left very disappointed. [/quote]you should have posted this in the annie's section of this forum.

aye, who manages the place, would read it and might pm you.

honestly, despite what people say that annie's is not really all inclusive, it is meant to be all inclusive and the tip is really a tip to be given afterwards (they might ask you for it anyhow)

but in the middle of the action in an all inclusive soapee, well, this is far too much and kills the mood.
it should be reported to annie's management or the mama-san

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1132970]@nic: to avoid headaches you should be even more honest and tell them that not only is it just NSA sex, but you are having it with multiple girls. You will loose some who just can't accept it but some will be ok with it, and over time you'll get better at convincing them and you'll build a base of several girls who are perfectly fine with it. No more headaches or need for excuses.[/QUOTE]Trust me, they know there is no way anything beyond sex can be had. But how can I stop them from having feelings?

For a non P4P girl, as much as they want NSA sex, somehow, they will feel something. So now I limit to 2 sex sessions max per girl.

Finally broke my Bangkok cherry. I don't know how to explain to you guys how valuable this website and your inputs have been. Thanks to all for the posts and info. I read every post before I got here. I felt real good about how things work. I landed around 8am in BKK after a 20 hour flight from LAX. Got to the hotel and washed off the 20 hour travel funk. It was still early morning so I started walking. Wanted to get a feel for were everything is at. The sky train is cool and cheap for a day pass. Found Nana and cowboy, places were empty, but I expected that. Ate some lunch at a good open air food vendor on Soi 7, I think? As I sat there I see a lot of girls entering the Beer Garden across the street. This is where I will try out all that I learned. Well it works just like you guys have stated. Walk into the beer garden and there are like 20 girls and 15 or so guys. All the girls are making eye contact and waving, found that I had to look away to keep the lower rated 5-7 girls from coming over. Nursed a coke for about 20 minutes checking out the girls. I did not expect much in that it was 2pm or so. But then I found a very cute and my type across the room. My rating puts her at age=26, body=9, face=9, a cups, but I like that. Made eye contact, she waved, I waved her over. She came and sat down, I said Hi, she said Hi, and then I asked here if she wanted to go to my hotel. I was horny and got right to the point. She accepted very enthusiastically. I will most likely do it slower next time. We catch a taxi back to the hotel. Just a note, have a map of where your hotel is if you can. The taxi driver can drive around a bit acting like they don't know were it is. Maybe they don't, maybe they do, just know where you are at. So I failed that test, but it only cost me 80 when it should have been about 40, what every. Anyways, back at the hotel every thing that I read about. These girls are great actors and I love it. Shower, BBBJ, DATY, dfk. 69 and all that, true GFE. Went for about 40 minute's total. Just awesome! Total damage 2500 for ST, I know some may say this is more then I should of, but it felt right. Plus if you look at how much we pay in the US for crap service that is not bad. I walked her out after we were done. She would have stayed if I wanted, but I don't like, am not so good at, the small talk thing. Going to try and get better at that this trip because I want to have one lucky girl stay the night. She never asked for any money the whole time which I though was cool. Even as we got dressed and started to leave, not a word about money. I am looking forward to the next 9 nights in Bangkok. Thanks guys for all of your great wisdom. I know for a fact that I would have been way lost in this city without your info.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Duneslider6969;1133082]Went for about 40 minute's total. Just awesome! Total damage 2500 for ST, I know some may say this is more then I should of, but it felt right.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your first report.

I am not usually one to comment about pricing but as you are staying another 9 nights in Bangkok, better let you in on the price structure:

Freelancers: Beergarden, Gullivers, Thermae = 1, 000 thb short time (for me it is 2 hours and 2 shots + Photos)

Street Meat: 500thb Short time and you can promise another 500 as tips for spectacular service so that they do it good.

Oil Massage: Extras are 500 HJ. 1000 BJ. 1500 FS.

Soapy: Depending on the Shop.

GoGo Bars: 1500 to 2000 ST. 2000 to 3000 LT (depending on the bar and the girl)

Beer Bars: 1000 to 1500 ST. 1500 to 2000 LT.

For your Beergarden Girl, you paid her 2500 thb for 500thb worth and while I know this is still cheaper than the US, overpaying that much won't make you pass for a nice guy but rather a mug.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1133127]I am not usually one to comment about pricing but as you are staying another 9 nights in Bangkok, better let you in on the price structure:

Freelancers: Beergarden, Gullivers, Thermae = 1, 000 thb short time (for me it is 2 hours and 2 shots + Photos) [/QUOTE]IME in recent years they generally ask 1500-2000 ST at Thermae, as several other reports I've read indicate. One hour if you're lucky. Though if you can find an ugly overweight TG there, she might go for 1K.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1133127]Street Meat: 500thb Short time and you can promise another 500 as tips for spectacular service so that they do it good.[/QUOTE]What is Street Meat? SWs at Nana Car Park were typicly 1000 baht from 2007-2010, and I read a report the other day that said it is still that way. No surprise there.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1133127]Oil Massage: Extras are 500 HJ. 1000 BJ. 1500 FS.

Soapy: Depending on the Shop.

GoGo Bars: 1500 to 2000 ST. 2000 to 3000 LT (depending on the bar and the girl)

Beer Bars: 1000 to 1500 ST. 1500 to 2000 LT. [/QUOTE]I won't comment on these as I never go there. Hopefully the info is more accurate than the above.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1133127]For your Beergarden Girl, you paid her 2500 thb for 500thb worth and while I know this is still cheaper than the US, overpaying that much won't make you pass for a nice guy but rather a mug.[/QUOTE]The girl was a stunner in looks, so I'd say at least 1500 ST was reasonable, and extra for good service.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1132992]I doubt very many guys who enjoy the "hunt" as they often call it are upfront that they want NSA, let alone that they are doing it or want to do it with many women. Another point as food for thought on this subject that I was just reading is the following comment:

"I want to make a point about women who claim to want NSA sex because in my experience that's a lie too. They may claim to want just a romp in the sack but are really looking to trick a man into a relationship. Sometimes this tactic works, more often it does not, and either way brings on more heartache because it starts with a lie. Now that it's more socially acceptable for women to admit to being horny, NSA sex appears to be something younger women feel ok with asking for but I'm still convinced that it's just another (dishonest) avenue to the same goal. If there is an emotional connection and the sex is good, relationship is still the desired outcome. The exception would be married and bored or married and dissatified but even that will lead to a relationship. A different kind of relationship with different rules but a relationship just the same. I do not believe that women are (as a rule) able to overcome or ignore their most basic nature any more than a man is."[/QUOTE]

The concept of NSA casual sex doesn't really exist in Thailand, because thai men who simply need to be satisfied on a purely physical level have plenty of brothels and massages available. If you seek this from non-P4P thai women, they'll often say something like "What, you want free sex from me?" The theory is that if you just want sex, you should pay for it. Regular Thai women who have sex under the guise of NSA are giving you a free sample to test in the hopes that you'll get hooked and she'll end up with a boyfriend of some sort, which eventually happens if you mess around enough, whether you want it or not, since every man has his emotional weak points and gets lonely at times.

Thai women have sex for money or for romance. Sometimes for both, but very rarely for neither.

If you treat them really well and respectfully and manage to part ways with them smiling in spite of the fact that they failed to land a boyfriend, you'll survive, but fail to do this a couple times and you can land yourself in some trouble.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1133127]GoGo Bars: 1500 to 2000 ST. 2000 to 3000 LT (depending on the bar and the girl)[/QUOTE]ST=1000-2500 depending on the conditions

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1132992]I doubt very many guys who enjoy the "hunt" as they often call it are upfront that they want NSA, let alone that they are doing it or want to do it with many women. "[/QUOTE]Who cares what very many guys do? Not many guys have much clue how to make things happen. The advice came from my direct experience. It works, if you can make it work. I think Nic has some game, just food for thought for him to consider. I used to do it the way he does it now, ie multiple girls, lying to all of them. Too complicated and not necessary IMO.

I ended up going to Siam Paragon for the teeth whitening and the glasses. I knew I would pay more but also that it would be good and quick. Case in point, I walked in the Britesmile office and was getting work done within 2 minutes – with no appointment. Both the whitening and the glasses were done in 2 hours. Whitening was 13, 500. I recommend these guys for the excellent service, if price is of no concern.