East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=TimePassPune;2312308]Am an Indian traveling alone to China for first time.

Shall be based out of Hilton Shanghai. Have done quite a few RTTF and believe Judy or Manhattan is the only safe bet for me. Would appreciate if you guys can help me with following.

- is it safe for a lone Indian person travelling around late at night I. E. After 10.

- how far is Pullman from Hilton.

- do the girls speak any English.

- going rate I am assuming is around 1200-2000 rmb for night?

- is Hilton girl friendly.

- can I get a taxi from Judy considering I don't have an app.

Thanks in advance and appreciate your help.the

Cheers,

Tp.[/QUOTE]The HIlton Shanghai is quite a distance from M or J'S. I would switch to the portman if you can. It's only a one block walk from the bars. The girls speak english and your price range works. There are many taxi's outside M and J's as the night goes on but they are black cabs (black market) and you will pay a higher price. I can't speak to the pullman. Being Indian is a hit against you. Many of the girls have had bad experiences with your brothers from India. I have an indian friend with me one night and he got turned down quite a bit. My advice is be nice to them when talking and if they are not giving you a good vibe, move on. Don't let it get to you. One of the first guys i spoke to when i went to M's in the beginning was Indian and he did ok.

Even with that challenge, you will find a girl in the price range listed

please post your experiences for the rest of us. IF we don't all contribute, the board doesn't work.

[QUOTE=TimePassPune;2312308]Am an Indian traveling alone to China for first time.

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Thanks in advance and appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Tp.[/QUOTE]SamCan has already given you a comprehensive reply so I have nothing to add. However, an important word of caution as a first time traveller. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT EVER agree to follow any tout (man or lady) who walks up to you and tries to be nice and promises to show you a good time. They will rob you blind. Just do not give in to temptation or frustration of not finding poon. Simply thank them politely and walk away. They will follow, just keep walking.

This also applies to young girls who might approach you requesting you to join a traditional tea party or requesting your help with brushing up English skills and all that crap.

Stay safe. I am sharing this only because you seem to have done some RTFF and have asked some reasonable questions. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2312541]SamCan has already given you a comprehensive reply so I have nothing to add. However, an important word of caution as a first time traveller. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT EVER agree to follow any tout (man or lady) who walks up to you and tries to be nice and promises to show you a good time. They will rob you blind. Just do not give in to temptation or frustration of not finding poon. Simply thank them politely and walk away. They will follow, just keep walking.

This also applies to young girls who might approach you requesting you to join a traditional tea party or requesting your help with brushing up English skills and all that crap.

Stay safe. I am sharing this only because you seem to have done some RTFF and have asked some reasonable questions. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I have to add that once in People's Square I was approached by a group of "students" from another province visiting Shanghai. It took them a while but finally they asked me to go get a drink with them. To be honest they had me up to that point because they took their time to build by trust. As soon as I heard "have a drink" I bolted. Please follow the advice, under no circumstance follow anyone.

[QUOTE=BigPoppaII;2312657]I have to add that once in People's Square I was approached by a group of "students" from another province visiting Shanghai. It took them a while but finally they asked me to go get a drink with them. To be honest they had me up to that point because they took their time to build by trust. As soon as I heard "have a drink" I bolted. Please follow the advice, under no circumstance follow anyone.[/QUOTE]Thanks all for all the advise and really appreciate same.

Just to confirm whether the Hilton shall be girl friendly or not?

Shall report once am done and again thanks for all the guidance.

Cheers guys.

[QUOTE=Strephane58;2312354]Hi everyone,

Went to Spring in Madang Road two times the last week in afternoon. 396 each time and good massage with he and +100 for extra nude chest. So everything good but throws two time after at 9. 00 pm and 6. 00 on and at desk they informed me no 396 available. The first time meant people were inside for a legit probably so OK but second time the same. Is anybody knows why? Is he massage just reserved for low traffic hours? Or do they stop extra?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Spring and Yu's extras have been suspended temporarily. A couple of girls have informed me that they aren't allowed to do extras for at least a couple of days or so. So some of them even went home.

The other day, I went to Changzhou 76. It turned into a strictly high end HJ joint. The rates are super high, 498/798/998. Price range varies depending on the hotness of the masseuse, ala old Dongguan. Again, its strictly a HJ service. The place has been renovated and is clean but to me, the prices are just too much for a HJ.

K.

Both C and V were available before, but now I can only find V. Does anyone know whether see can be still found in Beijing or Shanghai? The options in both BJ and SH are getting slimmer by day. My current strategy is to get the supplies and use them elsewhere.

[QUOTE=TimePassPune;2312697]Thanks all for all the advise and really appreciate same.

Just to confirm whether the Hilton shall be girl friendly or not?

Shall report once am done and again thanks for all the guidance.

Cheers guys.[/QUOTE]What is your definition of girl friendly? Every hotel in China will allow you to bring a girl into your room as long as the girl has ID and registers at the front desk.

Was in Shanghai a few weeks ago, just now getting around to posting something.

I usually go to J's, but I ended up staying in the small hotel right next to M's and ended up hanging out a bit there. On one night, there was this beautiful Chinese gal out front smoking so I decided to try to chat her up. She was with his "boyfriend" and a group of their friends. They use M's as a kinda swingers club, and swap out mistresses and add a Viet for group play. They come about twice or three times a month, whenever the guys are free to play with their mistresses. She was super hot, an ex car model who has had many trips to Korea for enhancement. She was a 10 for sure, and she told me she was well kept in an apartment with a new BMW and expense account. She was pissed off at her boyfriend as it was "that time" but yet he drug her along. She came out to smoke a few times and would always look at me when she left, and I would go hang out with her.

Her English was perfect, I mean Southern California perfect, I almost thought she was ABC. She spent some time in the states going to school, but got home sick and went home. She was a nice chick, but you could tell she could be a demanding she devil. I did get her wechat, and we talked a bit the next day but she then deleted me.

I ended up with a short spinner named Emma, Viet, small A's, 1,500 for LT, but ended up kicking her out about 4 am as she snored.

I also made it to a couple of Yu locations, both I was offered everything for 1,000 tip, one I declined (a little heavy for me), the other I partook (18 yo from Heibei), tight was not the right word, crushing little brother. She messaged me throughout the trip wanting to come to my hotel for 2000, I kept her at bay as she was almost my perfect definition of a spinner and she spoke just enough English to understand most of my dirty talk. If I partook then I knew I'd fall for her and that's not good.

Went to some dance club with a factory guy near Pudong, was drunk from dinner when we went so I have no idea where it was or the name, the chicks were very very hot, and I was the only white guy in the place and about 20 years older than anyone in the club. As my usual, ended up flirting with our waitress who was P4 P available, but I was too damn drunk to do anything other than take her into the men's bathroom stall and finger her.

[QUOTE=Keric333;2312807]Spring and Yu's extras have been suspended temporarily. A couple of girls have informed me that they aren't allowed to do extras for at least a couple of days or so. So some of them even went home.

The other day, I went to Changzhou 76. It turned into a strictly high end HJ joint. The rates are super high, 498/798/998. Price range varies depending on the hotness of the masseuse, ala old Dongguan. Again, its strictly a HJ service. The place has been renovated and is clean but to me, the prices are just too much for a HJ.

K.[/QUOTE]Ah that explains my experience the other day. I was told no 396 service at two Hongkou Spring shops. The Spring shop on Tongbei road has shut down permanently.

[QUOTE=WinniTPooh;2312350]Snip
Hope this helps. Give it a try, you'll most likely be rewarded.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Your help is appreciated.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2311429]Just looking for a hotel in Shanghai where there is action, or near to the action. In Hong Kong, Bangkok and Singapore, I always go to the Hyatt because the bar is full of freelancers, but this will be my first time in Shanghai, so is the Waldorf the best?[/QUOTE]Hi,

Note! I met the girl in the Fairmont Peace Hotel's Jazz Bar. Where several girls there but very discrete. Don't know if it is a regular hangout. Re. The Waldorf that's where I stayed, was just no problem bringing someone up!

Regards,

Anders99.

Will be in Shanghai for three nights starting coming Thursday. Any one there and up for joint hunt may message me. Expect me to visit all the top night spots.

[QUOTE=RobSH;2313002]Ah that explains my experience the other day. I was told no 396 service at two Hongkou Spring shops. The Spring shop on Tongbei road has shut down permanently.[/QUOTE]I just contacted my faves at Madang and Jiangning locations, and both are taking days off because of the "windy weather. ".

Long time lurker but decided to register and share my experience in case it helps anyone. I was in Shanghai for the past few weeks and just got back. I will probably not be visiting Shanghai again until next year at least.

Before I dive into the experience, here are a few details about me. My extent of Chinese speaking abilities can be succinctly summarized as "Ni Hao" and google translate. I am a 2nd generation American Indian but for their purposes, I look like my 1.2 Billion brothers and sisters. Bias cannot be discounted even if I think and sound like an American, I look like an Indian. I felt the need to emphasize on this point based on SamCan's honest and direct input to a post below. I tend to agree with his assessment. Its unfortunate but indeed the sad truth. I can vouch for it based on many many no go situations in the US over the years.

Based on recommendations in this forum, I visited the Spring Massage on Madang road as well as the one on Wanping Rd on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week respectively. Both days, I got there after 9 PM. The Madang Rd Spring Massage place had Spring Massage prominently displayed on the building. However, when I walked in, there was this cute girl behind the counter and she kept insisting that they are no longer "tied" with Spring Massage and they only provide Chinese Massage. Despite my best efforts, that one was a complete no go and I decided to walk away as they were in no mood to discuss further.

Wanping Rd was an interesting experience. I walked in there and based on the many posts, it had all the "signs" of the typical massage place that we mongerers will be looking for. However, the guy I talked to could converse in broken English and refused that a 396 massage existed. I went as far as to tell him that my friend recommended this place, that this was my last day in Shanghai and I had a good bit of money to spend. Once that was a no go, I decided to get the 298 massage hoping that the masseuse will offer services that this guy refuses to acknowledge. I was walked to a room in the back and asked to change into some flimsy shorts. Note: The shower was in the room. The masseuse then walked in. (I found out later that she was #23). She asked me to lie face down and weirdly enough started scratching my head. This went on for a good 15 minutes and all this while, I was thinking be patient, anytime now. The next thing you know, she climbs on my back and the next 55 minutes was probably one of the best ever massages that I have ever experienced. She walked on my back, used toes to apply pressure in the right points, stretched my neck, stretched my spine and I was literally in heaven. I had not realized until then how hectic my trip had been and this massage was just what I needed (not wanted). The back walking was followed by assisted contortions and positions that I had never imagined were possible. There were all kinds of popping and clicking sounds from my bones. Then we sat face to face and she proceeded to spread my thighs out. I could have sworn that she intentionally forced the shorts to rip with her thumbs but I am not sure. Junior popped out, she looked at it, smiled, said sorry and covered him with a towel. Some more stretching, clicking, popping. Then she got down, said "Massage done. You too heavy, see sweat and showed the sweat on her brow", said thank you and walked out. I changed and walked out. I explicitly asked the guy again why no happy ending was offered and he just kept saying no. Anyway, at that point, I paid my dues, offered a tip for the masseuse but they refused and then I walked out.

My overall thoughts. " Fuck you junior, not everything is about you. Sometimes, even a massage can be orgasmic".

To my fellow mongers, I say unapologetically, keep on keeping on.

Thanks to the help of fellow mongers in Shanghai had a great time there. Only stayed for 3-4 days but was indeed a memorable trip although very expensive.

First night my fellow colleagues took me to a KTV for breaking my virginity of the same. Great ambiance Goodwin but could not be a full party to it because cannot speak any chinese. Was told there are wild games that you can play there but somehow could not happen that night due to some issues with police checking. Ended up taking 2 girls to my room for a great great night. Both the girls were willing to stay back until afternoon but had meetings and kicked them out at 6 after having a good morning session.

Next a couple of nights later ended up at Judy. Went to Manhattan first but looked slow and ended up at Judy. Was fairly early around 9. 15 but quite a few ladies already in. Mostly a good 6-7 scale and some a good 8-9. Standard going rate is 1500 and 3000. Ended up taking a Viet for 1600 for 2 shots plus taxi and was a great experience. As mentioned tax a cab to Portman and walk the 1 block towards Judy. No problem. Being an Indian does have a problem as girls do not easily come to you but well you need to try and be good and you can score.

Overall a great time but very expensive.

Cheers.

Tp.